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Doug Marrone Show: Thursday, August 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show,
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  Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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  Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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  Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome into The Doug Morons Show
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  Speaker 1: from the Twin Cities Orthophoenix Performance Center in Egan, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Lockman, and Tony Boselli sitting in. This
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  Speaker 1: would be the time during the practices between the Vikings
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars, but a weather delays forced the teams
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  Speaker 1: to the indoor facility. We've moved our set indoors to
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  Speaker 1: the grounds keeping shed and not really performance center. Right
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  Speaker 1: now we're the cover. We've got chicken tenders in front
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  Speaker 1: of us. I'm not saying it's a great set up.
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  Speaker 1: Soda in my pocket here, fantastic. I mean, and this
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  Speaker 1: is uh, by the way, this is a just awesome building.
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  Speaker 1: I love still build in construction. Yeah, it's great. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us more, it's awesome. What's so great about this builing? No, no,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't, but but like what is the part of
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  Speaker 1: the construction. Look at the fan. There's a fan, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: don't Okay, there's to roll up doors on this side.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side you have work benches. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is like the ultimate man cave right here.
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  Speaker 1: Like what would you like an owl hanging from the lights?
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  Speaker 1: Like if you had this in your possession, what would
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  Speaker 1: you do with it? I'd have it. I'd have tractors
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  Speaker 1: right in here, Okay, I'd have agricultural equipment in this
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  Speaker 1: way over. Can you explain the difference a tractor and
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  Speaker 1: agricultural equipment, Well, I don't know the difference. Like the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. We're asking them questions. What do we do
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  Speaker 1: machines in this alley? So tractor and then when I
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  Speaker 1: say agricultural equipment, I'm talking the attachment. The attachment to
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  Speaker 1: the track would be in the next day. And then
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  Speaker 1: I would have in my wood shop over there, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then over there where those work benches are at.
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  Speaker 1: That's like you have a drainage system, so you just
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  Speaker 1: hose off the equipment or no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you do that outside. Okay, Yeah, that's what outside is
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  Speaker 1: for you. But this is this is a great set
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  Speaker 1: upright so they've got a nice facility right here. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: the part is I didn't even notice that the American flag.
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  Speaker 1: We got the American flag and didn't notice it. How
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  Speaker 1: why would you make that accusation because we didn't talk
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  Speaker 1: about the turn, and we're like, oh, what are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about that? I did not do that. It's caught
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  Speaker 1: on camera. Bo. Practice is on hold for now. The
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  Speaker 1: teams are indoors. The last we heard, they still planned
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  Speaker 1: to come out and finish the practice at some point,
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  Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to warm up again the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can stay the whole time. What
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  Speaker 1: do you have to do tonight, Tony, you know, asked
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  Speaker 1: my wife. My wife flew in tonight. We're here to work, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: We're here to watch practice and and see this team
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  Speaker 1: get better again. By the way they are practicing inside,
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  Speaker 1: they started inside, okay, that was They've changed the plan then,
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  Speaker 1: so they are indoors, continuing the practice as we speak. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: yesterday's work, you know, good work against another good football team.
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  Speaker 1: Both these teams went the same distance last year's at
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  Speaker 1: the championship game in their respective conference. A couple of
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  Speaker 1: new faces in Minnesota, including the eighty million dollar quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: As you would expect, though, these two defenses are really
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  Speaker 1: the star attraction. I think of these teams right now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: if not the top two, they're they're pretty done close
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  Speaker 1: to the top of the league. We we know what
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense has and UH. And have interesting conversation
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  Speaker 1: today talking with Nathaniel Hackett, and I was asking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what did you see far as the Vikings defense? What
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  Speaker 1: impressed you and uh, And he was very impressed with
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  Speaker 1: a couple of the guys in the in the back end.
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  Speaker 1: He Harrison Smith. He said, off the charts good, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes off the charts good. He's an all pro corner.
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  Speaker 1: He's got size, He's got everything. He's a big he's
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  Speaker 1: a big safety. He really does. I mean he you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talk about Dave carl while he talks about
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  Speaker 1: he likes, you know, the measurables on corners, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a height, weight type of thing. I mean, Xavier Rhodes
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  Speaker 1: has got it physical makeup. Like we talked about how
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  Speaker 1: big Jaalen is and how long Jaalen is, which he
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  Speaker 1: is extremely big and long for and and has those
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  Speaker 1: attributes as a corner. Xavier Rhodes is thicker. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he is a thick dude. He literally, you're right. He
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  Speaker 1: looks like a safety, you know. And then Andrews and Dajo,
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  Speaker 1: who is the uh free safety is uh is a
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  Speaker 1: fantasy excuse me? He might be strong safety on the list.
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  Speaker 1: He's strong safety. He is fantastic as well. And we're
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  Speaker 1: not even talking about the linebackers. I mean Kendricks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: was another guy that he mentioned. And the Kendricks brothers, okay,
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  Speaker 1: are extremely fast linebackers. He would be a perfect fit for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars type of system because he's got
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  Speaker 1: the speed to burn. Anthony Barr as outside linebacker, is
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  Speaker 1: a big cat, looks like a defensive end. Daniel Hunter
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  Speaker 1: on one side, Everson Griffin on the other side. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: these are these are for real now, I mean for real, legitimate,
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  Speaker 1: top end players and uh. And it's a great test.
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  Speaker 1: And even though the reports are true that the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: struggled against this Minnesota Vikings defense yesterday, that's a great
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  Speaker 1: thing to have an opportunity to play against one of
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  Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league and to get better,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And you're not gonna come out here and
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  Speaker 1: light them up. They're they're too good. You know so, uh,
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  Speaker 1: great experience, great exposure, and uh, I think I think
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  Speaker 1: I give Dug Moro own credit because you know what,
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  Speaker 1: Uh A lot of teams might not have wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do something like this. And you know what, by taking
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  Speaker 1: this opportunity, I think you you gain things that you
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  Speaker 1: just are invaluable. Why wouldn't other teams like to do this?
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  Speaker 1: Yet some teams just don't like to do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just like early on and Dave called well Gus Bradley Aire,
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  Speaker 1: they just they felt like that that's not something that
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to do. And uh, different team makeup than
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  Speaker 1: two now, by the way, personnel is much different. But
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  Speaker 1: here here's the thing. I believe that you always benefit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care where your team is at, you always
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  Speaker 1: benefit from doing something like this. And and here's the
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  Speaker 1: other reason why it's a player. First of all, you
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  Speaker 1: love it because it just changes the tempo, it changes
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  Speaker 1: the scenery, it changes your day, it breaks the monotony.
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  Speaker 1: But then the experience in the exposure to different players,
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  Speaker 1: different body types, different schemes are invaluable. And uh so
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  Speaker 1: I think I think anybody that that just wants to
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  Speaker 1: stay in their own little cocoon and not venture out.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a mistake. Guys. The specialists are starting
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  Speaker 1: to come back out about that. So if you you
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  Speaker 1: the players are heading out, Yeah, there's Carson Tinker and
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  Speaker 1: Josh Lambeau and the and the and the punter Cook
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  Speaker 1: as well has made his way out. So there you
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  Speaker 1: have it. They're apparently the bad stuff is uh not
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  Speaker 1: that far or has moved away enough for some players
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  Speaker 1: to come back out. Joe Fortunito, here's a question for you.
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  Speaker 1: I know that they're very strict with how long guys
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  Speaker 1: can practice now, so that they practice inside coming out.
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  Speaker 1: They can't. They're they're still constricted to time. You're still
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  Speaker 1: on the clock. You're on the clock from the time.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta remember something, you know, the Jaguars, you're you're
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  Speaker 1: allotted like two and a half almost three hours, two
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  Speaker 1: and a half two and two hours and forty five
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  Speaker 1: minutes for practice. Yesterday's practice was two hours tops. That
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  Speaker 1: was it. So even with a delay, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: you're you still got forty five minutes that you really
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  Speaker 1: don't need for the a lot of time, so you
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  Speaker 1: should be okays be able to get in. You can
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  Speaker 1: roll over time then yeah, I don't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get a row. It's not that. Hey we've
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  Speaker 1: booked three hours. We'll be on the field five hours today. Well,
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  Speaker 1: well we got machine. It's the compressor. Yeah, we're in
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  Speaker 1: the grounds keeping a grige. Good question here at the
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  Speaker 1: TCO Performance Center and Egan Minnesto. Really nice compressor, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, it's great. What makes it? What makes it?
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  Speaker 1: A good consise of it? Size? The size of it.
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  Speaker 1: You think that it's not watch it's no, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter either because they all have pretty much
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  Speaker 1: damn thing. It's amotter. It's gallants. The amount of gallons
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  Speaker 1: gallant what I thought, I thought, a bigger the better
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  Speaker 1: it is, I thought the good I thought you measured
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  Speaker 1: when it come to compressors, I think we have officially
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  Speaker 1: continues from Egan, Minnesota, the Twin City told the Phoenix
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  Speaker 1: Performance Center, the practice home of the Minnesota Vikings. Where
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  Speaker 1: we are today, Egan, Minnesota, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagman,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Basselly sitting in the head coaches having practice right
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  Speaker 1: now with the Minnesota to be called coach base for
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  Speaker 1: this UH you're not even coaching anymore. No, but it
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm filling in on the coaches show for coach.
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  Speaker 1: Don't so well, then I'm gonna leave. Well, you're leaving
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  Speaker 1: the chicken tenders. That's fine. It's your choice. You either
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  Speaker 1: call me coach right, get up and leave? All right, Tony? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: easy there. Boeh, he's out of here. Good. This show
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  Speaker 1: just got better. Actually, this show just got much better.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you were leaving. No, you're coming back now, Tony
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  Speaker 1: was it was coming back? He got guilted into it. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this Jaguars, he just didn't get enough chicken. I just looked.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that and started practice. So we we've touched
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  Speaker 1: on Blake Bortle's performance. You know, let's let's let's shift
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  Speaker 1: it though to the running game. Hell, you can't really
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  Speaker 1: tell a lot, as Doug Morris said today, from the
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  Speaker 1: running backs in a practice situation, because there's no tackling
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  Speaker 1: to the ground. You can tell about your run game
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  Speaker 1: the blocking up front, but the tackling can tell about
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  Speaker 1: the cut the cuts they make in their vision. You
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  Speaker 1: can't how they're gonna finish it, absolutely, but you can
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  Speaker 1: see the initial moves and the vision and the uh,
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  Speaker 1: the explosive this out of cuts and you know, are
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  Speaker 1: they getting are they getting downhill? I mean, you can
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  Speaker 1: see that type of stuff, JP. But overall you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look at last year. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff earlier that Leonard did so well was running
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  Speaker 1: through tackles. Well, he's not running through tackles right now
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  Speaker 1: out No, it is, so that part of it, I
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  Speaker 1: do agree with you. But you can I think you
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  Speaker 1: can see quite a bit. I mean, I mean, as
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  Speaker 1: a player, I know this. We did nine on seven,
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  Speaker 1: which is inside drill, twice a day during training camp
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  Speaker 1: and then twice a week during the regular season, and
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  Speaker 1: at the end of that period, you knew whether the
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  Speaker 1: offense or defense won the drill and whether whether it
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  Speaker 1: was whether it was a good run or not. But
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  Speaker 1: let me let me say this about the running back.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to tell about a running back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether whether he's is gonna be a good running back
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  Speaker 1: or not in a practice like this, because you know
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  Speaker 1: what Tony for. I mean, for the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks of training camp, we've watched Tim Cook and go, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty big guy and uh, he might might
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  Speaker 1: be able to be the guy if something were to
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  Speaker 1: happen to one of the two backs t J Yeldon
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  Speaker 1: or or you know obviously four now and then you
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  Speaker 1: watched him in the preseason game and you went, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: how many reps did he get in enough to make
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  Speaker 1: me go? You know what? That wasn't very good? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but barely enough, saying I'm just saying it wasn't enough
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  Speaker 1: to make you get excited about anything. So so it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to valuate it. But the one thing I think
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  Speaker 1: you can evaluate is some of the speed and quickness
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  Speaker 1: that some of the backs have. And watching the Vikings, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they obviously have a really good running back who's coming
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  Speaker 1: back from an injury and it's gonna be fun to
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  Speaker 1: watch him in a game if he does play. And
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  Speaker 1: that's Dalvin Cook from Florida State, who was their first
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  Speaker 1: round pick last year, who towards a c L and
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  Speaker 1: from watching him out here, he's he's good to go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he looks good to go. Uh, they've got
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  Speaker 1: a big I loved him coming. You and I you
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  Speaker 1: and I you weren't a big fan his I just
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  Speaker 1: like I liked his speed, but I just liked four
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  Speaker 1: net better. I didn't dislike him, just like I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was. See a generational back like for Nett's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be lush. Maybe he was, you know what. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't think so when I saw him. But
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  Speaker 1: Lottavius Murray is also here in the Vikings uniform. And
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  Speaker 1: as we know, in a preseason game, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times it's the backups, you know that getting out more
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  Speaker 1: opportunity than anybody else. Keep an eye on this young
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  Speaker 1: kid that the Vikings have. Boone. Okay, Mike Boone. He's
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  Speaker 1: a rookie, Mike Boone from University of Cincinnati, universitys Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: Where's forty four? Sucker? He is quick, now, I mean
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  Speaker 1: he is quick. Yeah, he's a smaller, kind of shiftier guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's got some change of direction. In fact, because I
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  Speaker 1: think I told that to you yesterday. I said, man,
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  Speaker 1: watch that number forty four. He's got some movement. And
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  Speaker 1: then wake up today, you know, get the newspaper, pull
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  Speaker 1: it up. And Mike Zimmer was asked about the running
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  Speaker 1: back situation and he actually mentioned Boone by name. He said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, watch out for this Boon guy, you know so,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, man, I guess I know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Sometimes you know how to pick
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  Speaker 1: you know how to pick him. I'm not saying he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be generational back or anything. Do you like those
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  Speaker 1: generational backs? The both teams are back out on the field,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, right now and are doing some work.
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  Speaker 1: Media is coming out to media's coming out, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's good news. The practice continues on the fields.
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  Speaker 1: Behind us here in Egan, Minnesota, is the Vikings and
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars work out. Uh No, teams versus team work
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow and then they'll play of course Saturday one o'clock
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  Speaker 1: in downtown Minneapolis and the central one o'clock Eastern. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The the interesting thing is, you know we talk about tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: there's no work with the Vikings, right you just said that.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's what I heard. Okay. You remember last year
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  Speaker 1: with the Patriots, they actually practiced with the Patriots, had
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  Speaker 1: a jog through day before practice with the Patriots, which
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I thought was like, really odd. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: I would want to do it on the show. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was dumb. I wouldn't want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: What are you accomplishing well as a player? I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: want to do it because you know, when I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to bash this guy's head in tomorrow. That's not
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  Speaker 1: why I just see it. I saw no. I saw
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  Speaker 1: no point to it. I mean maybe there is, maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's a point. I don't want to get all warm
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  Speaker 1: and fuzzy, okay and start talking to Joe who who tomorrow? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna line up and crackheads with Joe. Okay. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: gotta build up a little anger, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be you know all. You know, hey man, how
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you you're so full of it? It's the pre It
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  Speaker 1: was week one of the preseason. You built up zero
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: anger for the first preseason game. I was like you
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  Speaker 1: talking about me throwing a bunch of crap out there.
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  Speaker 1: That was dumb. I'm serious, That's why it is. Yet
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  Speaker 1: you know you're counting the plays to get out of
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: there like I was coming. Let me tell you what.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: He wasn't making plays count. He was counting place I used.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I used to go up to John P's r D
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: line coach and by the way, yeahn walking behind he
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: hit the bathroom the John P's okay, who was our
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: defensive line coach. I got to John after every serieson
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: go hey, John, that was seven plays? Am I done?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And I do it on purpose just to mess with him,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: because you know he was obviously he they had an
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: idea of how many snaps. All coaches do have an
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: idea of how many snaps that everybody's gonna go in
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a rotation, whether it be the first team offense or
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: first team defense or whatever. But I would go up
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to him just to mess with him because Coauflin used
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to have this message. That's just kind of the same
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: thing with Doud Maron. I don't want my players counting plays.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I want to worry about playing. Make the plays count.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Don't count plays, make the plays count. So I'd come
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: off the sideline and go to John pas. John that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: series was was five plays, and with the previous series
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that was seven, so I got twelve. Am I done yet? Sorry?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I saw. I actually saw a coach Coffin before, and
• 18:43
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• 18:47
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• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and I say, coach, where's the concentration line? We were
• 18:53
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• 18:57
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• 19:00
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• 19:05
  Speaker 1: can't believe you brought you brought it up. I say, Dave,
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  Speaker 1: across that concentration line. You don't start counting plays. You
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: make plays count Tom. He started laughing. He just shook
• 19:16
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• 19:20
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• 19:23
  Speaker 1: had to be past the concentration line a certain time,
• 19:27
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• 19:31
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• 19:34
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• 19:40
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• 19:44
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor is in, Freddy t what's up? How are
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  Speaker 1: he's got actual pancakes. Ch That was a good one, friend,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. So we're in the groundskeeping garage.
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  Speaker 1: You we got moved in because of the inclement weather.
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  Speaker 1: The players got moved inside, and you were were you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: inside with the teams that's in there? What they do?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: They did? Uh? Some team drills, some quick interchangeable team drills.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Offense defense, offense defense, a few few different sets. Yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it was fun, It was good. Yeah, I'd like the
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  Speaker 1: touch there. It is so nice in there, A little
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  Speaker 1: hotter in there, a little warmer in there than it
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is out here. Yeah. Well, I mean usually doesn't get
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: ninety degrees in Minnesota, but it is there like nine agrees.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's what brought the weather. And but uh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the offense looked pretty sharp. Offense looked better, took some
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: shots in there. Uh so did Minnesota's offense. Defended pretty well.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So it looked good on both both sides from both sides.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Got some working indoors. Now the teams are back outside
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: for the final or stretch of practice. Here. You got in,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you got in last night. Um, let's I mean, let's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: start off with with last week. I don't think we've
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: we've had you on radio before on the postgame show,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: but for this audience, it was your debut as the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: analyst on television last week. And now you got your
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: second shot coming up this Saturday at one o'clock Eastern
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: time against the Vikings. How did it go last week? Friend?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Last week was fun? You know, it was pretty fun. Uh,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I still in preparation, you know, all week,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Dan Edwards he was Dan was saying, hey, you gotta
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: reach out and logman. Jeff's great at you gotta reach
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: out logment and here I have my phone and the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: reminders every single day set to call, and I didn't call.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: He didn't call me. I didn't call. What I did
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: start the Uh, the conversation wasn't today We're gonna have
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: an so but you know, it was my first shot,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: first chance. I ever never thought I would be doing it. Um.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to hurry and run
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: back until doing games the game day live or I'll
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: be nervous the next three pre season. But it was fun,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: it was different, It was fun, um and it's just
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: having a conversation much like this, but working out the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: technical side of it all and uh being able to
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you know, win to jump in from the play by
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: play guy, you know, being descriptive as descriptive as I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: can for the viewer, and then just getting out of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it and getting ready for the next play. Yeah. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: think first of all, you're you're working with Brian Shaxson,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: who was a true pro, you know, and he did
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I've worked with Brian doing it as well and for
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: many years in the radio broadcasting. Uh. He does a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: great job. So you're working with a pro, and you
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: guys will end up hitting the ground running this week
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and be even better than last week. I think I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: think the one thing I think that just a we're
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: talking broadcasting here, we'll get to the football stuff coming up,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: because I mean, this is all relates. I think the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: one thing with television that I think is different than
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: radio is that with radio, you're trying to tell people
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: what happened. You're trying to describe paint the picture. With television,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it's painted. You know, they see it, they watch it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: So as a as an analyst on television, and I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: kind of had to make this change, was that when
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you go from television, which they know what happened, you're
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: not talking about what happened. You have to give them
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: something that they didn't know. Get Why Why did was
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: this a ten yard run by four net? Why did
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: this play work? And I think that's the key with television,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: whereas radio you can explain why after you your play
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: by play guy paints the picture, and then as an
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: analyst you further paint the picture and then explain why
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: if you have to. But it's it's a great chat.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Jim and I've been a big fan of Freds for
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: for a long time, and uh, and I'm glad to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: see that you're in the booth. I appreciated Jeff, uh
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and I can attest and confirm that he has been
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a big fan of mine since they won. I believe
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: when I came in, ye uh, when I came in, McManus,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: oh t mac end up shoving me. Him and Boyer
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: they were always clowns and just just get under your skin.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And they took advantage of a lot of rookies. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Jeff was one of the guys that came in us.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: They don't worry about those guys, you know, they're just guys.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Try to try to help raise him a little bit.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It's the truth. It's the truth. And I share that story,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know, hearing there are people at home ask me
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: if I had ever been hazed and all that stuff.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But not to get too far off topic. Uh, I'll
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: get used to it. I warm up to it. I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: pretty sure I'll do better. I've got a lot of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: feedback from fans, family, from you know, the front office. Um,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: so I'm ready for this week. Well, if you hazing
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: his players, man, I just wait to the broadcast. Asked,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: hazing starts. We haven't even got to Hey, we'll come
• 28:03
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  Speaker 1: Doug Moron Show continues from Egan, Minnesota, The Twin Cities
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: ORTHOPEDICX Performance center, j P Shadrick, Jeff Logaman, Fred Taylor
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: were in the grounds keeping garage. We had to move
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: indoors because of the storms earlier. They've now passed. Players
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: are back out of the practice fields behind us here.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Let's talk running backs here, Fred, I mean, we know
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: about the Jaguars situation, but you look on the other
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: side and they've got talented over there. To Dalvin Cook's
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: coming off a knee injury last year. Uh know, Leonard
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: for that. The story is he's lighter and and seems
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a little more I don't know, spry, I guess is
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the word. It's camp. I get it so far what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you've seen today here. I mean, this is a pretty
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: good collection of running back talent around here. A lot
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of talent right there. That Tavis Murray. I met him
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: in the building. I actually spoke with them, with the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Vikings guy. With the Viking guys. I ended up visiting
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: with my former coach, my former positions coach, coach, Kennedy Polo.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: He's now Kennedy Paula Mallo. Now you know, I knew
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it was some change. I didn't even know when, but
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna I know Troy Paul his nephew,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and that's right, correct, So all of that, you know,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's training camp. It's pretty pretty wild. I mean I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: didn't notice that until getting here, you know, and you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: getting the game boards ready and stuff. But Kennedy Polo
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: was your running back to him. He was Kennedy Polo
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: with the Jaguar and I guess years ago for summer
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: him somebody in his family or he shortened the name
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: of the Polo to make it simple. Correct, Well, he's
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: his real name is Paulo Malo. Soon he went back
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to his full name, so now he's Kennedy Paolo Malo Pomalo.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he invited coach Polomalo everybody. So yeah, he
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: invited me over to meet with those guys, and I
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: was able to share a message with him. Uh that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Tavis Murray didn't realize he was that big, big pushing
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: six three, nice frame on him. I can see where
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: his power comes from. Devin Cook a little bit more
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: squatty exactly, but he's big here, you know, but the waist,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the waist down. From the waist down, he's not big.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: From the waist up, he's he's huge and you can
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: see where his power comes from as well. He's very
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: shifty and his ability. But you mentioned Leonard for Nett
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: being no excited, you know, and it could be training
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: camp or whatever it may be. I remember, uh leaving
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the New England game after the NFC Championship game and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: having a conversation with him after looking over and seeing
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: him on the bench, you know, uh, with his head
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: down just feeling awful. Say, look, year two, you will
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: be so excited. You have so much more fun than
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you had in the year one. The awareness, uh, your
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: sense of what you could do, in the freedom that
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: you will feel you have, it will be increased, you know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: by ten and you're gonna have a even better season
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: than you had this year. So he's excited about that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely looking forward to to kind of go along
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: with I go what you're saying there, Fred, because you know,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: watching him last year and I watched his college tape
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: obviously before the draft and then after the draft, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: saw a really special back, a guy that I thought
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: could be a generational back. And then last year during
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the course of the season I saw I didn't see that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't see that specialness. I saw a
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: really good solid back And at what point for a
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: running back, because I think like with the defensive line,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and I think back, it took me to like year
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: three to kind of star finally figure it out for
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: running back. When did you finally feel free? Was it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: year two or was it at some point in year
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: two or year three to where you felt like, Okay,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking I'm just being a runner, you know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think for me, Jeff, it was, you know, a
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: year two, early in the preseason. I believe it was
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the I want to say it was the New York Giants,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: maybe down in Jacksonville, whomever. The first preseason team was
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: at home that year. Um I remember, I think it
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was like the second player of the game, I gotta
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: carry touchdown. And then we came back and did the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: same thing a few plays later. I was like, wow,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: this is easy. You know, it was a preseason, but again,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it was how easy it was, how the confidence level
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: was extremely high and everything that's everyone else felt like
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: they're running in slow motion. This is gonna be one
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of fun for me. And
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season, I just felt free
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to do what I was gonna do. Coach Ingram. You know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: he trusted what I was capable of. You know, he
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: didn't have to call me in here and say, hey,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you missed this cut. You missed this cut, because he
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: knew at some point I was gonna make the cut
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and I was gonna make something out of nothing, you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: more more times than none. So for me, it just
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: gave me that the freedom and leeway to just go
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: out there and trust my abilities, not so much worry
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: about messing up. And that's the same thing I've been
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: sharing with Leonard through throughout theme, throughout this offseason, and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just go out there and play. You know, Coach Wheetley,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he said he's gonna let you play. Just go out
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: there and trust that he's gonna let you do your thing,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and trust that you're gonna make something happen. So maybe
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: he's feeling the freedom now. I don't. I don't know
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: how much different physically does he look to you, Leonard
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: right now? Um, for me, it's he looks a little
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: bit leaner. Yeah he still looks big, but he still
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: looks big. But you know I heard he lost some
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: weight at one point. I heard the report sage to twenty.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: He came into twenties something. I think it's what the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: reports were. Yeah, but I don't know how accurate those were. Uh,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you know, because I spoke to someone, uh, the person
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that actually weighed him, so he wasn't quite as light,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: but he's lighter, you know. He wasn't pushing to forty anything, right,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't see two twenty three and I and
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I doubt he wants to be that. Like, did you
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: have to wait that you felt better at when you play?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: You know, Jeff, I was drafted at twenty six and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I can honestly tell you being two thirty plus, which
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't often, but there was one game I remember like
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: it was yesterday. I was two hundred and thirty five pounds.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I felt terrible. My back was on fire. And yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a few plays in a row. You know, I can
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: only run maybe two carries in the row, three carries
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: at most. Maybe I just felt feel exhausted, so being
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: heavier definitely felt bad. Also, Um, I started working out
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: away from the team down in South Florida and I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: came back here at two nineteen. I felt fast. It
• 37:12
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• 37:17
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• 37:20
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• 37:24
  Speaker 1: out for the rest of the preseason. As a matter
• 37:28
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• 37:34
  Speaker 1: You feel terrible. We feel awful, you know. For me
• 37:36
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• 37:39
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• 37:42
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• 37:46
  Speaker 1: felt good being fast and running through. But it just
• 37:49
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• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and as we talked about earlier, Jeff, this this linebacker
• 40:44
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• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Telvin Smith, Leon Jacob seems to have a grasp at
• 40:52
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• 40:55
  Speaker 1: as the concern, the depth, especially of that linebacker unit
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: is is what's popping up right now in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Well it is, and it it really showed up, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: think in the first preseason game because those guys played
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a ton and also played a ton on special teams
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and and I mean they didn't have a very good day.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Blair Brown had a concussion. He's back though he's out
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: of a concussion protocol. He's practicing, but he just didn't
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: look comfortable. And linebackers coach Mark Collins yesterday was a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: little fired up about it. And when I say fired up,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: he was. He had some choice words for some of
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: his backups and so obviously not very happy there. But
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I mean it's a group that's got to get better,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you know, because look, we all know that Telvin is great,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack is great, and I think Leon Jacobs fred.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I think the really encouraging thing is is that you
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: always see a level of communication between Telvin, Miles and Leon.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And you never see it as if Leon going like,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you know, his hands up in the air, going what
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: am I What am I gonna do on and what
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: do I do? On his play? He's very confident lines
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: up and he and he there's no quite shi in
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: his mind. And I think that's really encouraging. But he
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think it's a Sam and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: strictly as Sam only, and I think it will he
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: would he's a little stiff to play a nickel linebacker.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And so my question is, is Blair Brown taking a
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: step in year two? Is Donald Payne taking a step
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: in year two after making the conversion from a college
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: safety to all a linebacker in the National Football League?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: These these guys need to develop, they need to step
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: up because if everything's perfect and healthy, will Telvin and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack, You're fine, But rarely does that happen in
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the National Football League? Right? And and Leon And he's
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a he's a kid who's been hot, he's spoken of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and Telvin just talking to Telvin, sharing some time with him.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: He's a smart kid who he understands, you know, exactly
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: what the coaches want from them. But again, as Jeff said,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you know you're talking about repetition. Now, he's playing bass
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: defense for the most part, and you're gonna run into
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: teams that you're gonna go out there and it's gonna
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: be as many bass plays as it is third down play.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So if they're not getting off the field and he's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be tapped out, you know, for the course of
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the game, all the linebackers for that matter. Um, but again,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you have a pretty solid group, just don't have enough
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: bodies to stretch around. Um. But I think in his development,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: he'll get out there and he'll see some things where
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: he will allow him to play faster, play smarter, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: who he will learn how to find that extra you know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: that extra small piece of energy. You know that he's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: gonna expel throughout the course of the preseason because he's
• 43:40
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• 43:43
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• 43:45
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• 43:47
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• 43:51
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• 43:55
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• 43:59
  Speaker 1: they realize the sense of urgency getting closer to the
• 44:02
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• 44:06
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• 44:09
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• 44:12
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• 44:15
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• 44:19
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• 44:22
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• 44:29
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• 44:32
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• 44:36
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  Speaker 1: Of course, no Doug Maron since Doug Maron is doing
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver crew here. You know, you get a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good idea guys of the five guys that are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the five? Would they keep us six? Can they
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  Speaker 1: is still the question even a few weeks in the camp.
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  Speaker 1: those guys? Yeah, you say you okay, we know who
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  Speaker 1: the five probably are gonna be. Is there gonna be
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  Speaker 1: six but sometimes those things have a tendency to play
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  Speaker 1: what you think, you know, okay, because we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: out to make a decision based on everybody's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: there at the app and rarely does that happen, and
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: so you kind of gotta let things play up. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, I think I think it's a very It's
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  Speaker 1: probably one of the healthiest battles in training camp because
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  Speaker 1: it has depth and it has talent. I mean, it's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: just not we're not we're not talking about guys here,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: and we're talking about a couple of guys that may
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: end up getting cut, like we're Shot Green Jr. You
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: know that could get cut or Jaden mckinns that. You
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: know what, when if they get let go, they're probably
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: gonna have a job within the next couple of days.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a fun group to watch and
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I and I agree with Jeff, which makes them all better.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it is a narrow margin between these guys.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: They're all talented, as Jeff mentioned, but again, you have
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  Speaker 1: guys such as Dante mon Creeve, you know, who's done
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  Speaker 1: some good things in the league. Yet he's had some injuries.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: So a question mark is gonna be can we depend
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: on this guy throughout the course of the season, or
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: do we take a younger guy who's a second year
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: player or whatever and continue to try to develop him
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: who maybe hasn't been as injured. But the good thing
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: is you're gonna to get some great competition out of it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It's gonna make them all better, whoever it is they
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: decided to take. It's definitely gonna make them all better.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: And and you know, I think it will also we'll
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: start to see you know, separation and separation will occur
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: through the preseason with guys, level of play, etcetera. But
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm kind of stuck on this one.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: You know, is it gonna be five wide receivers or
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: is it gonna be six on the fifty three man roster?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Because if you think about what they want to be,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: they want to be a smash mouth, physical, physical officer. Okay,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: last time I checked. Okay, when you're gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: smash mouth, physical offense, that doesn't mean you're gonna keep
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  Speaker 1: six wide receivers on the roster. Okay, I mean usually
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna keep five, but I think that there is
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  Speaker 1: good reason to keep six because Jaydon Mickens, I think
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: is the best punt returner of the bunch. And I
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  Speaker 1: also think that he can give you something that's just
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  Speaker 1: different at the wide receiver position, because he saw him
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  Speaker 1: step in and win a game against Cincinnati was a
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  Speaker 1: punt return. We saw him step in in the injury
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  Speaker 1: situation when Alan Hearns went down last year, when he
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: kind of crawled off the sidelines, it was a rogue
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: move and all of a sudden, Jado mckins comes in
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and then bam, touchdown. You know, And so I want
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to see much like you know, we we clamored for
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Corey uh Corey Grant to play more last year. I'm
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: not saying that they need to carve out a role
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  Speaker 1: for for Jadon Nickin, but when given the opportunity, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a special talent and can do some special
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  Speaker 1: things because he's got that that short area quickness and
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  Speaker 1: this a matter of getting reps, but his his punt
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  Speaker 1: I honestly think that he if he if he gets
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  Speaker 1: back to where where he was at, which was when
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• 51:53
  Speaker 1: punt return. If he stays at that level, he will
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: be the greatest punt return of the Jaguars have ever
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: had because he does a great job of taking a
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: couple of steps, planting his foot and then getting north
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• 52:08
  Speaker 1: absolutely fearless. Who would be the best point return to Barlow? Yeah,
• 52:12
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• 52:24
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• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you know he didn't. Yeah, but he wasn't as consistent.
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  Speaker 1: Was definitely a big return. Reggie was really consistent. Never
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: said two words. And by the way, one of the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: one of the better head coaches in college football. Durs.
• 52:38
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Hannonia Autos dot Com Studio, The
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  Speaker 1: from Egan, Minnesota at the Vikings Practice Complex, j P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagman prior to the Jaguars running Back Fred Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars and the Vikings coming up Saturday one pm
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  Speaker 1: Eastern time is the kickoff and the Jags and the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings playing the second preseason game. I guess a relatively
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: rare preseason day game for the Jacks. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: one being during the day since at least I've been
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  Speaker 1: around here. But um, a chance for this group to
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  Speaker 1: get back out. The starters will go probably a little
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  Speaker 1: bit longer, right, what about a quarter? You think, guys,
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  Speaker 1: will be a quarter? Maybe a little ower quarter. Usually
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  Speaker 1: the coaches would say get a quarter in and maybe
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: my two series in the second quarter. Just change and feel,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you know, being able to go to opposite direction. Just
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  Speaker 1: little stuff, you know. I think the one thing that
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to as well. First of all, I've
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  Speaker 1: watching the starters play a little bit longer. But you
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  Speaker 1: Spank Stadium. Is that the correct name of it, by
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the way, it's U S Bank Stadiums. I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing this place. I mean, this is the I've
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  Speaker 1: heard you know that it is tremendous, and so looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to seeing the inside of this thing. And I
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  Speaker 1: made a comment yesterday to somebody who had seen it,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, it does it? How does it compare
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  Speaker 1: to Jerry's world, which is Cowboys Stadium and the statement
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  Speaker 1: was paid. Nothing compares to Jerry's ward. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even though it's not gonna but I'm not expecting it
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  Speaker 1: to be as good. But I mean when we we
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  Speaker 1: drive by it every time, when we come out here
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  Speaker 1: to Eden Egan Egan, Okay, Egan, Minnesota, and it's a monstrosity.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's huge. And the crazy thing about
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Minneappolis St. Paul here is that every major sports league
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: has a new stadium or on the way. Baseball right
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: has sum Okay, the Target Center brand new, and then
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: there's a new stadium under construction and the Major League
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  Speaker 1: Soccer even we saw that looks like a space ship.
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  Speaker 1: It's around twenty thousand seats. Yes, yeah, it's pretty cool, definitely. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a big city now, a big city. And
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  Speaker 1: it's cold, buddy, it gets cold here in the winter,
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  Speaker 1: Yes it does, indeed it does. So I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to preseason a week two coming up this Saturday. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: In general, Fred, what do you want to see out
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  Speaker 1: of this group as a collective unit here on Saturday? Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: stay healthy? I think it is number one. But that
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: definitely the health without a doubt, I think just getting
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: out there as well as they did last week. I'd
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: like to see him you know, open again on from
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: offensive standpoint. They always start to talk about starting fast,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: and last week they started fast. It started great. They
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: had a long drive, seven minute drive start preseason, start
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: the new year and maybe let the fans know this
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: is what you can look to expect. So I'm I'm
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: hoping expecting to see the same exact open or I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: would even take a you know, to play. Let's take
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: a shot, big play and see some of that pretty stuff. Definitely,
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  Speaker 1: we'd like to see the offense come out and stay rhythmatic. Obviously,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Blake get out there and and control the offense as
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: he did start in the game last week. I want
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: to babe to see Leonard get a couple more carries
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  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, see his abilities again and hopefully
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: that was play us. I'm exciting for the fans. Fred,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: great to see you, Thanks for coming on. Now is
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  Speaker 1: chicken takes some chicken tenders with your Fred Taylor, Proud
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  Speaker 1: of the Jaguars running back Jeff Flagminer, Thanks to Tony
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: was Shelley, our entire crew, and thanks to you for watching.
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