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72: Trusting Your Intuition When Your Life Needs a New Direction with Hannah Gatch · The Everyday Awesome Project

• 0:27
  Polly Mertens: Hey, superstars, welcome back Paula here, and no Samantha Pruitt, but we have a guest today.
• 0:32
  Polly Mertens: I'm super excited to introduce you to Hannah Gatch, and Hannah is from the Center for New Age.
• 0:39
  Polly Mertens: Hello, hannah, hello, welcome, welcome, welcome, and you are an intuitive and just masterful at a lot of things.
• 0:48
  Polly Mertens: So let me tell you a little bit of the backstory of who Hannah is and how we came to know each other, because we've only known each other.
• 0:53
  Polly Mertens: What a week.
• 0:54
  Hannah Gatch: Yes, not too long actually.
• 0:56
  Polly Mertens: About a week.
• 0:57
  Polly Mertens: So Hannah is an intuitive.
• 0:59
  Polly Mertens: She is at the Center for New Age in beautiful Sedona, arizona.
• 1:03
  Polly Mertens: That's how Samantha and I came to know her Age in beautiful Sedona, arizona.
• 1:07
  Polly Mertens: That's how Samantha and I came to know her.
• 1:09
  Polly Mertens: We were in Sedona for our race and visiting some friends and we're like you know, we should go get our friend who is having her 50th birthday, we should get her a reading and get her all in the woo-woo, because that's what Sedona is, one of the amazing things that you can get in Sedona.
• 1:20
  Polly Mertens: So we stepped into this wonderful store.
• 1:23
  Polly Mertens: You guys have to go the Center for New Age.
• 1:26
  Polly Mertens: It's a must.
• 1:27
  Polly Mertens: It's a beautiful creek side and it's all that you will.
• 1:30
  Polly Mertens: You tell me, tell me what is in your store, tell me all the things that people can find there, and then we'll talk about you.
• 1:35
  Polly Mertens: But tell me about the store a little bit.
• 1:37
  Hannah Gatch: Of course.
• 1:38
  Hannah Gatch: So the Center for the New Age is actually located right across from the historic Tilakapaki Shopping Plaza.
• 1:46
  Hannah Gatch: We're a center, just like its name, that caters to all walks and phases of spirituality and religion.
• 1:53
  Hannah Gatch: We also not only are just like a retail storefront, but we also have over 16 different psychics, intuitives and healers, so we cater to those who want their own tools to do their own journeys or want someone to mentor or to kind of conduct healings for them.
• 2:13
  Hannah Gatch: We are locally owned by Anita Dalton.
• 2:19
  Hannah Gatch: She is the owner and founder.
• 2:22
  Hannah Gatch: So we're a woman founded is the owner and founders.
• 2:29
  Hannah Gatch: We're a woman founded and it is a family-owned business.
• 2:30
  Hannah Gatch: So the granddaughter, daughter are all intuitives and also work there.
• 2:32
  Hannah Gatch: So it's just such a homey environment and I like to say that anybody that walks through the door becomes part of our soul tribe and our soul family as well.
• 2:41
  Polly Mertens: I couldn't agree more.
• 2:42
  Polly Mertens: We're already connected.
• 2:44
  Polly Mertens: So one of the things that Samantha and I just dug about a conversation that we have with you at the counter as we're just, you know, scooping up all kinds of gemstones and crystals and Kelly's getting her reading and stuff, and it's you guys just go please is just how warm and yummy you were.
• 3:00
  Polly Mertens: Like you, and I'm sorry, what was the other gal that was working with you that day, that?
• 3:04
  Polly Mertens: The daughter or granddaughter that's me, Emerson.
• 3:07
  Polly Mertens: Okay, you two were just like just love buckets walking around, like how can we help you?
• 3:12
  Polly Mertens: What do you need?
• 3:13
  Polly Mertens: And it was just amazing.
• 3:14
  Polly Mertens: So we would.
• 3:15
  Polly Mertens: When we heard that you guys were having a podcast and I want you to tell me later on the name of your podcast as it's coming up how did you come to be in Sedona at the Center for New Age?
• 3:26
  Polly Mertens: Where did you come from?
• 3:27
  Polly Mertens: Like you, I don't think you were born there.
• 3:29
  Polly Mertens: So tell us the journey and the story, all of it.
• 3:32
  Polly Mertens: Tell me everything.
• 3:34
  Hannah Gatch: Of course.
• 3:34
  Hannah Gatch: So I am not a Sedona native.
• 3:37
  Hannah Gatch: I am actually originally from Charleston, south Carolina, so 2000 miles away on the East coast.
• 3:45
  Hannah Gatch: I am 27 years old, I'm a fire sign, so I'm an Aries, I have that energetic passion.
• 3:51
  Hannah Gatch: But Sedona is actually a new experience for me.
• 3:55
  Hannah Gatch: I've only been there for about two years now, so I've been finally accepted.
• 4:00
  Hannah Gatch: There's this local joke where you know, if you've been following Sedona, she either accepts you in six months or she kicks you out.
• 4:08
  Hannah Gatch: So luckily, I made it.
• 4:09
  Hannah Gatch: I made the cut, but I absolutely love it and, honestly, faith, surrender and just connecting to a source greater than myself is ultimately what brought me all the way cross country is ultimately what brought me all the way cross country, and we can talk about that story a little bit more.
• 4:28
  Hannah Gatch: But I moved to Sedona two weeks after vacationing and just visiting there, I had such an intense connection to the vortices that are there and just a connection to my source that instructed me that this was part of my soul's journey.
• 4:42
  Hannah Gatch: So very, very lovely and I love that.
• 4:47
  Hannah Gatch: Sedona is a place that everyone all around the world travels to.
• 4:51
  Hannah Gatch: So instead of me having to find mentors all around the world, it's so cool that through these doors I get to meet so many lovely people from all different walks, phases and all around the world themselves.
• 5:07
  Hannah Gatch: But initially, what brought me to Sedona was just kind of going through an in-between time of my life, as we all do If it's not one thing, it's 10 others.
• 5:16
  Hannah Gatch: It seemed like I was just phasing out people, places, things, emotions all at once.
• 5:23
  Hannah Gatch: That just no longer served me.
• 5:24
  Hannah Gatch: And I remember one day actually fishing.
• 5:29
  Hannah Gatch: Fishing is a great time of meditation for me, it's the southern thing to do.
• 5:33
  Hannah Gatch: And I remember sitting at this pond.
• 5:38
  Hannah Gatch: It's a pond I frequent often.
• 5:40
  Hannah Gatch: It's kind of cheating you throw your reel in and you'd catch something in like 0.3 seconds.
• 5:44
  Hannah Gatch: This particular day I remember sitting there for about two hours not catching anything, and I just remember crying, and it wasn't about the fishing, it was about life.
• 5:57
  Hannah Gatch: And I just started praying to my source and I just said what am I doing wrong?
• 6:04
  Hannah Gatch: My heart, my integrity, like I just want to help others, but everything that I'm doing, it's just not working.
• 6:11
  Hannah Gatch: And I remember very clearly hearing the words that said you're doing the right things, you're just not in the right place.
• 6:18
  Hannah Gatch: And so I sat with that for a minute and the airy side of me being stubborn says OK, spirit, I'm going to move to a different place in the pond.
• 6:29
  Hannah Gatch: Again, this is not fishing, but it's more of the meaning behind it.
• 6:33
  Hannah Gatch: So I'll be darned.
• 6:35
  Hannah Gatch: I walk across the pond and right where I hear the word stop, and that same discerned voice, I'm like, ok, funny.
• 6:42
  Hannah Gatch: And that same discerned voice I'm like, okay, funny, because if I cast, it's going to go in the same exact spot that it was originally in, just on the opposite side of the pond.
• 6:49
  Hannah Gatch: And I was like, okay, god, you say, do it, I'm going to do it.
• 6:54
  Hannah Gatch: So I cast and I'll be darned.
• 6:56
  Hannah Gatch: 0.3 seconds I catch something.
• 6:58
  Hannah Gatch: And that was the idea, that epiphany, that I'm doing those things.
• 7:03
  Hannah Gatch: I just need to be in a different area location.
• 7:08
  Hannah Gatch: And that's when the good old dark that I had told you came in.
• 7:11
  Hannah Gatch: I sit down and I say, okay, spirit, if I'm supposed to go somewhere else, where is this supposed to be?
• 7:22
  Hannah Gatch: Nothing came through.
• 7:23
  Hannah Gatch: So, jokingly, I just said to my higher self and my spirit guides wherever this dart lands is where I'm going to go and hopefully get some sort of reset.
• 7:30
  Hannah Gatch: I throw it and it hits Arizona.
• 7:33
  Hannah Gatch: And of course I was like.
• 7:35
  Hannah Gatch: Well, if we're going to do this, if I'm going to Arizona, what is the most spiritual place to go?
• 7:39
  Hannah Gatch: And, of course, sedona.
• 7:41
  Hannah Gatch: And, like the United States, so beautiful, so I kid you not, I book a flight.
• 7:51
  Hannah Gatch: I stay here for a week in Sedona, just thinking that I'm in the right place to get like a reset or a refresher.
• 7:59
  Hannah Gatch: And as I'm in Sedona, I'm hiking Cathedral Rock, which is one of the most beautiful hikes, and I remember sitting there and just crying in pure gratitude and again hearing that voice say embrace your new home.
• 8:13
  Hannah Gatch: And in that moment I decided I'm going to surrender to everything that I know and I'm going to trust the process and follow.
• 8:22
  Hannah Gatch: And that's ultimately what brought me to Sedona two weeks after initially visiting.
• 8:28
  Polly Mertens: I am just in awe.
• 8:29
  Polly Mertens: I don't know if anybody listening to this is like what the hell?
• 8:32
  Polly Mertens: Like I'm just like girl 20.
• 8:35
  Polly Mertens: So you were 25.
• 8:36
  Polly Mertens: And you're like, I'm just going to move across the country and and trust this.
• 8:42
  Polly Mertens: And what was going?
• 8:43
  Polly Mertens: What happened?
• 8:44
  Polly Mertens: Like, did you have any?
• 8:45
  Polly Mertens: Like did fear show up?
• 8:46
  Polly Mertens: Are you going?
• 8:47
  Polly Mertens: Ah, maybe I made the wrong decision, you know?
• 8:49
  Polly Mertens: Did you have doubts?
• 8:50
  Polly Mertens: Or were you like no, I've done this before a thousand times, I know.
• 8:53
  Polly Mertens: Maybe you've honed this voice.
• 8:54
  Polly Mertens: Like obviously it sounds like you're in a deep relationship with your higher self source.
• 8:59
  Polly Mertens: You know, I don't know what words you specifically like to use, so please tell me how you like to call it.
• 9:05
  Hannah Gatch: I'm open to any verbiage.
• 9:06
  Hannah Gatch: Source, creator, universe, god, all of those, I think, are great verbiages for that.
• 9:13
  Hannah Gatch: But ultimately, yes, there was a lot of fear.
• 9:17
  Hannah Gatch: That was there.
• 9:18
  Hannah Gatch: Those natural, adulting human feelings come through Fear.
• 9:24
  Hannah Gatch: Security came up.
• 9:26
  Hannah Gatch: How am I going to?
• 9:27
  Hannah Gatch: You know, move cross country financially?
• 9:29
  Hannah Gatch: You know housing things like that.
• 9:33
  Hannah Gatch: When I heard that voice with a certain tone that said embrace your new home, I remember that overwhelming feeling of just bliss and gratitude over me and I like to jokingly say that that was the first time that I prayed correctly, instead of haggling with God or source and saying if you do this for me, I'll do that.
• 9:54
  Hannah Gatch: After I heard embrace your new home and feeling that overwhelming feeling of just love, I remember saying it physically, out loud I surrender all control, knowing security.
• 10:10
  Hannah Gatch: If this is how bliss feels, I want to be in this feeling more and, whatever it is that takes it, I promise that I will do it.
• 10:19
  Hannah Gatch: And there's this quote by Lisa Nichols that says you have to be willing to let the part of you die in order to rebirth the more authentic you.
• 10:30
  Hannah Gatch: And I was willing to let go of all of my old, the successes, the persona that I had created that really wasn't aligned with Hannah, to restart and at least give her the chance to really unapologetically shine through.
• 10:47
  Hannah Gatch: And I remember my relationship with sources.
• 10:52
  Hannah Gatch: I like to kind of test it.
• 10:54
  Hannah Gatch: It's not that I don't believe it, but I'm hardheaded.
• 10:56
  Hannah Gatch: I need signs, synchronicities, like all of the messages of you're on the right track.
• 11:01
  Hannah Gatch: And I remember car is still loaded.
• 11:06
  Hannah Gatch: I come to Arizona it's before I'm moving into my house.
• 11:08
  Hannah Gatch: I go right back to that same place near cathedral, and I sit and I just say you know what, god, if I misheard you and I wasn't supposed to come here, I'll go back home.
• 11:18
  Hannah Gatch: Just give me a sign that I'm doing the right thing.
• 11:21
  Hannah Gatch: So I'm meditating with headphones on and I see this vision of a tadpole turning to a frog, which to me represents transformation, growth and, like you know, really coming into your new body.
• 11:36
  Hannah Gatch: And I kid you not, that's the Sedona magic.
• 11:38
  Hannah Gatch: My headphones pause, I open my eyes and there's a frog hopping right in front of me, Of course, and so that happens to me so often here in Sedona.
• 11:49
  Hannah Gatch: I just was like, okay, I hear you, I can go move in now.
• 11:54
  Hannah Gatch: And so much magic like that can happen for anybody.
• 11:58
  Hannah Gatch: All you have to do is just ask for signs.
• 12:01
  Hannah Gatch: Ask for something more than just your inner knowing and surrender to.
• 12:05
  Hannah Gatch: Might be small little things, but there's always little messages encrypted into everything that happens.
• 12:13
  Polly Mertens: Wow, I love that, I love.
• 12:14
  Polly Mertens: Okay, I want to go down like a couple of different paths.
• 12:17
  Polly Mertens: One I want to know more of, like how did you get to that fishing pond?
• 12:21
  Polly Mertens: I mean with all this wisdom and stuff, because I'm pretty sure you didn't come out of the chute.
• 12:24
  Polly Mertens: I mean with all this wisdom and stuff, because I'm pretty sure you didn't come out of the chute.
• 12:26
  Polly Mertens: You know, knowing all the things, like we all have some little baggage or traumas or whatever we go through in our younger life that forms and shapes us, if you will, and for you to have at 25, the things that I'm hearing, I mean I'm just so thankful for our future because you're, you're assigned like good things are coming right, like awakening is happening.
• 12:48
  Polly Mertens: So what was going on from zero to 25, before you were sitting at that pond?
• 12:52
  Polly Mertens: Like, what was your life like?
• 12:53
  Polly Mertens: And then I want to know more of these like tools that you use and how you got there.
• 12:57
  Polly Mertens: So tell me a little bit about the zero to 25 ages.
• 13:01
  Polly Mertens: What was it all?
• 13:03
  Polly Mertens: Sunshine and rainbows, was it, you know, rough?
• 13:05
  Polly Mertens: What mom and dad Were they there?
• 13:06
  Polly Mertens: What was life like for you?
• 13:09
  Hannah Gatch: Yeah, beautiful question For me.
• 13:11
  Hannah Gatch: What I have to say is a lot of the spiritual awakening.
• 13:15
  Hannah Gatch: They call it happiness and sunshine, but nobody really talks about the stages beforehand, spiritually speaking.
• 13:24
  Hannah Gatch: There's a verbiage for it that's called the dark night of the soul.
• 13:27
  Hannah Gatch: We all go through that, which is our life prior to the ascension or removing the veil.
• 13:34
  Hannah Gatch: My dark night of the soul luckily happened quite early, I would have to say.
• 13:42
  Hannah Gatch: I was raised in a Baptist family so it was very in the box, thinking it had to be very much this way or the highway.
• 13:51
  Hannah Gatch: But I remember actually coming across very early on, probably in my teens.
• 13:57
  Hannah Gatch: 1 Corinthians 12.
• 13:59
  Hannah Gatch: It actually talks about the gifts given to man.
• 14:03
  Hannah Gatch: It goes into wisdom, knowledge, hands on, healing or what we know as Reiki prophecy and different spiritual gifts that everybody has to unlock.
• 14:13
  Hannah Gatch: And as I started researching into those, I'm like huh, so this is kind of what it means.
• 14:19
  Hannah Gatch: Um, I do know that throughout my life there were multiple little lot of verbal um.
• 14:51
  Hannah Gatch: You know you need to be doing it this way instead of this way.
• 14:56
  Hannah Gatch: Um, and just not really being able to unapologetically speak your truth or feel like you have to be a certain way to be seen or loved.
• 15:05
  Hannah Gatch: So zero to 25, I remember just living a life that either A wasn't aligned with my authentic self to be seen or to be successful in society's terms.
• 15:16
  Hannah Gatch: Also to prove to my parents because I wanted them on a pedestal and I wanted to be accepted, loved, understood.
• 15:26
  Hannah Gatch: I also feel like my inner child kind of knew she was into some of these tools.
• 15:34
  Hannah Gatch: I started collecting crystals at the age of six.
• 15:37
  Hannah Gatch: It started with a little tiny piece of tiger's eye after finding it in the sifting bin at Dollywood in Tennessee and it kind of grew and grew and grew.
• 15:48
  Hannah Gatch: So I always studied kind of metaphysical healing tools but never really plugged them into everyday practices for manifestation.
• 15:57
  Hannah Gatch: And also too, I remember several times during zero to 25, especially during like active addiction, mental health having these micro moments of hope that came through.
• 16:10
  Hannah Gatch: I remember one day not around so many good people and I just remember that same voice.
• 16:16
  Hannah Gatch: It's a discernment, there's a certain tone that came through for the first time ever that said this is not the life that you're meant to live.
• 16:26
  Hannah Gatch: And I knew this the entire time that I was in active addiction, living in like a community style home.
• 16:32
  Hannah Gatch: I knew that this wasn't for me, but I also think that I was placed strategically in that location to help some of the other people that were there, even though I was in active addiction.
• 16:44
  Hannah Gatch: Maybe I wasn't quite at the rock bottom yet and I could hopefully encourage those.
• 16:50
  Hannah Gatch: I also remember that living a life that didn't feel fulfilling, or I felt guilt and shame that people could see on me, really changed the way that I was looking at myself.
• 17:03
  Hannah Gatch: So for a while I struggled with lack of confidence.
• 17:06
  Hannah Gatch: I felt like people could see through me, but I also, at this whole time, was able to manage a productive lifestyle, profession, schooling, all of these things and I felt like a fraud, because behind closed doors I was one person and to society I was another, and in between I knew I was on the right track when I dealt with people.
• 17:29
  Hannah Gatch: But behind closed doors these things accessed within me what I thought I couldn't.
• 17:35
  Hannah Gatch: And after eventually getting out of active addiction, I realized that through meditation, connecting to something greater than yourself, you can access that peace, that calmness, the energizing, whatever it is that you need from yourself.
• 17:51
  Hannah Gatch: And also part of my spiritual journey, too, is finding mentors and, coincidentally, always aligning with people who were more spiritual or woo-woo versus the traditional religious, and also again coming from a family who, again, I tried to prove my worth too, but at the same time I was okay with being the black sheep.
• 18:15
  Hannah Gatch: So there's this duality that continuously went in my life.
• 18:20
  Hannah Gatch: But I remember sitting down several times, um, and just asking myself who am I?
• 18:28
  Hannah Gatch: Who am I to the outside view, but who am I to myself?
• 18:33
  Hannah Gatch: And I remember, at the age of 19, after hearing that voice that said this is not the life that you're meant to live, I asked myself who is Hannah the life that you're meant to live?
• 18:46
  Hannah Gatch: I asked myself who is Hannah?
• 18:47
  Hannah Gatch: And I couldn't say anything more than my name, my age and what I was doing for a living then.
• 18:51
  Hannah Gatch: And I realized at that moment how can I sit here and create a lifestyle without even knowing who I am?
• 18:57
  Hannah Gatch: I need to go back to the drawing board and figure out what aligns with me soulfully and most importantly, there is always that quote that says if you hang around the barbershop long enough, you're bound to get a haircut too.
• 19:11
  Hannah Gatch: Who are the people that I'm hanging around?
• 19:14
  Hannah Gatch: Not with judgment, but are these the people that are going to encourage me when needed, to spiritually lift me up, or are these people going to influence me in certain ways that lower my vibration and enable these behaviors that I know deep within me are not okay?
• 19:32
  Hannah Gatch: So it's a whole journey and I like to say adversities, trials and tribulations are spirit's way of saying when you're ready to stop holding the control and you will step back and say, um, instead of saying why is this happening to me, instead of saying this is happening for me and deciphering what the deeper meaning or where you can change, that's kind of where spirit can kind of start coming in a little more.
• 20:04
  Polly Mertens: Oh, so much to unpack there.
• 20:05
  Polly Mertens: Oh my goodness.
• 20:06
  Polly Mertens: Oh my goodness, well said, well said for sure, so okay.
• 20:10
  Polly Mertens: So do you mind unpacking a little bit of the addiction?
• 20:13
  Polly Mertens: Like, could you tell us, do you know what, what that path looked like, like, what led you?
• 20:18
  Polly Mertens: Cause I have a background of addiction myself, so, and Samantha has has it in her family too, and whatnot.
• 20:24
  Polly Mertens: So what, what was it like as a child?
• 20:27
  Polly Mertens: Was there, um, were your parents ignoring you?
• 20:30
  Polly Mertens: Were they, you know?
• 20:31
  Polly Mertens: You said, the black sheep of the family, and they're Baptist.
• 20:33
  Polly Mertens: So am I picturing, you know, like little picket fence and everything's done perfectly.
• 20:37
  Polly Mertens: And you're like, hey, I'm not perfect like y'all, or was it like they were fighting all the time they got divorced, this ruckus household?
• 20:43
  Polly Mertens: Like y'all?
• 20:43
  Polly Mertens: Or was it like they were fighting all the time they?
• 20:45
  Hannah Gatch: got divorced, this ruckus, household chaos.
• 20:47
  Hannah Gatch: Well, give me paint a picture for me.
• 20:49
  Hannah Gatch: Yeah, so it's kind of an interesting dynamic, especially if you ask my other family members.
• 20:53
  Hannah Gatch: Um, I come from a family where it's about comparison your traumas and your unhappiness is not worthy because your cousins or so-and-so has it worse than you worthy because your cousins or so-and-so has it worse than you.
• 21:09
  Hannah Gatch: So I never actually until my my journey now in adulthood, never knew that I actually came from a true romantic childhood because it was considered the norm and I was always externally told you can't talk about this, you can't feel that way because so-and-so is more justified.
• 21:23
  Hannah Gatch: But I grew up in, you know, your classic white picket fence home.
• 21:28
  Hannah Gatch: I'm fortunate to say that we didn't come from physical abuse.
• 21:32
  Hannah Gatch: Some of it might have been more emotionally or verbal, which is a whole nother wound to get through and I grew up in a house where it was a lot of control, but I think the intentions were to keep us safe, but then went to the extreme.
• 21:52
  Hannah Gatch: Unfortunately, my mother had gone through some childhood sexual trauma and so that was something that my parents had talked about.
• 22:02
  Hannah Gatch: If we have a daughter, that is not going to happen.
• 22:05
  Hannah Gatch: So the extremist way was instead of that happening.
• 22:10
  Hannah Gatch: They weren't going to allow any possibility.
• 22:12
  Hannah Gatch: So I grew up in a household where I really was just in my room all the time alone.
• 22:16
  Hannah Gatch: I wasn't allowed to go over to friends' houses because of those said reasons.
• 22:22
  Hannah Gatch: I wasn't allowed to go to after-school activities because of that possibility.
• 22:27
  Polly Mertens: So I was very much in solitary a lot Kind of sheltering you from something that you know could possibly happen.
• 22:36
  Polly Mertens: Right, you know like, oh the, not the boogeyman.
• 22:38
  Polly Mertens: But you know, like I mean, and, and granted, you know when somebody's got that in their background, like your mom did, she's doing it out of love, like it's an act of love.
• 22:46
  Polly Mertens: But you know there's the extremist side to it.
• 22:49
  Hannah Gatch: Um, so it did inhibit my socializing skills, but in turn, because I wasn't allowed to socialize with people, I really was a feeler.
• 22:58
  Hannah Gatch: I could feel people's presences or auras and I had to kind of develop those intuitive gifts to know is this person safe, is this person not?
• 23:08
  Hannah Gatch: And also, you know, being alone like you get to really dive deeper into what do I feel like versus, how do I feel like next to this person and how does their energy affect me.
• 23:21
  Hannah Gatch: Um so that's kind of part of it too.
• 23:24
  Hannah Gatch: Um, so then that's where my self-worth was driven on acknowledge, um, you know, accomplishments, um, that was the way I was seen, because I felt like I was kind of tucked away.
• 23:35
  Hannah Gatch: And, with that being said as well, that's kind of where, in my teens, I started to get a little more freedom car, but yet it was still always over me.
• 23:48
  Hannah Gatch: They're like you can't do this, don't do that, because X, y, z and, of course, 16, you know, ish is when most kids tend to experiment, and I remember my dad was a police officer at the time.
• 24:02
  Polly Mertens: So, my goodness, so you've got mom, you know, with this background, and dad a police officer.
• 24:07
  Polly Mertens: Okay, I get the picture.
• 24:11
  Hannah Gatch: So he was always talking about.
• 24:13
  Hannah Gatch: You know the criminals, the people you know that he was able to talk about.
• 24:18
  Polly Mertens: Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear.
• 24:19
  Hannah Gatch: Yeah, and he's like drugs are bad, Don't do them.
• 24:23
  Hannah Gatch: And every time I'd go out I was always questioned what did you do?
• 24:27
  Hannah Gatch: And so there's that defiancy inside of me that was like I'm a good kid, I have a good moral compass, but if you keep telling me that I'm bad or I will be doing bad things, or this is bad, don't do it.
• 24:41
  Hannah Gatch: There's kind of that rebellion that's like all right, if you say I'm going to be bad, let me do it and show you.
• 24:47
  Hannah Gatch: Unfortunately, that wasn't the best route in my case.
• 24:51
  Hannah Gatch: So I ended up starting with you know, just marijuana, they say, is the gateway drug.
• 24:58
  Hannah Gatch: And after I got a taste of this freedom, I decided I want to move out, I'm going to go hang out with friends, I'm going to move into the community house, and of course that's when my parents are like no, and at that moment, South Carolina, 16, 17, you're considered a legal adult, there's nothing that they can do.
• 25:18
  Hannah Gatch: And so from 16 to 19, I did struggle with other, harder drugs, consistently and daily.
• 25:28
  Hannah Gatch: And so that's kind of where it started, was out of spite, and it was kind of like, if you're going to tell me I'm this person, I'm going to be her and I realized that is totally not the way to go.
• 25:40
  Hannah Gatch: But once you're down the rabbit hole, you're there and what's the craziest part was during my active addiction.
• 25:47
  Hannah Gatch: It slowly happens and that's kind of where land slides down.
• 25:52
  Hannah Gatch: It's not overnight.
• 25:53
  Hannah Gatch: It's one thing that you compromise, you slowly turn a blind eye to it.
• 25:58
  Hannah Gatch: It doesn't bother you as much.
• 25:59
  Hannah Gatch: So here I am at 19 when I had that epiphany that I can't be living this life.
• 26:06
  Hannah Gatch: I'm living in a house that's disgusting that there's people in and out.
• 26:10
  Hannah Gatch: I would rather feed my addiction than put gas in my car to go do the traditional, you know teenage things.
• 26:18
  Hannah Gatch: And I just remembered after that calling of this is not the life that you're meant to live.
• 26:26
  Hannah Gatch: That was the first time that I really understood how bad this was, really understood how bad this was.
• 26:38
  Hannah Gatch: Um, because sometimes I think, with things that distract you or alter your brain, it can alter the way that you view things and I think that spirit has always saved me by channeling in, even when I've been at the lower vibrations, to pull me out, and there's always higher guidance for that.
• 26:53
  Hannah Gatch: And then with the active addiction as well, I realized too, as I slowly started to awaken during that because I was at a lower vibration from what I was putting into my body.
• 27:07
  Hannah Gatch: Not only was I psychically developing, but I was developing in a lower realm and that's something, too, that we'll talk about with crystals, protection, things like that.
• 27:18
  Hannah Gatch: But that's also where I felt like addiction really started to get worse.
• 27:24
  Hannah Gatch: I feel like lower entities can attach onto people mental health addiction, these different patterns and behaviors that they can thrive energetically off of your aura, these different patterns and behaviors that they can thrive energetically off of your aura.
• 27:39
  Hannah Gatch: And when I started to see and realize that that's also what was like okay, if I'm experiencing these things, I don't want this.
• 27:47
  Hannah Gatch: So that's kind of the story of how it kind of got into it and I also believe that that's part of the dark night of the soul and then awakening.
• 27:52
  Hannah Gatch: My true gift is I want to help people who have gone through mental health addiction because I can't just say, hey, it's rainbows and sunshines.
• 28:02
  Hannah Gatch: After I can sit there and say I've been there, I know how it feels.
• 28:06
  Hannah Gatch: I'm not just this person with the degree telling you how to work with it.
• 28:10
  Hannah Gatch: I can relate.
• 28:11
  Hannah Gatch: But also here's the example of how you can be like outside of this.
• 28:16
  Hannah Gatch: It is possible.
• 28:18
  Polly Mertens: Wow, I mean, I think you know I'm just going to reflect this as may or may not be true.
• 28:23
  Polly Mertens: So you know, correct me if you have a different feeling from inside yourself or inside your body.
• 28:27
  Polly Mertens: But you know all the work that you were intuitively doing and maybe didn't even realize on your own.
• 28:34
  Polly Mertens: You know in your bedroom that without you know all the influences, you know strengthen that connection to source and your, you know your higher awareness, if you will.
• 28:42
  Polly Mertens: So when you did because a lot of people, they don't have that you know, oh, what was that?
• 28:48
  Polly Mertens: Maybe like three years of addiction and then like, oh, I don't think I want to be doing this anymore.
• 28:52
  Polly Mertens: Some people, it's like decades, you know.
• 28:54
  Polly Mertens: But I think you had that channel open, you had that doorway open so those communications could come in instead of, and then A, the doorway was open, so you were like listening for it.
• 29:07
  Polly Mertens: You had a listening for it.
• 29:08
  Polly Mertens: And then also, you know, for you to understand, like all these energies at this level, when you're at a lower vibration.
• 29:16
  Polly Mertens: I mean like just you saying a lower vibration and you're 19 years old, like not a lot of people know this stuff, you know.
• 29:23
  Polly Mertens: So I'm just so fascinated how aware you are, self aware, aware of more you know, I think it's.
• 29:30
  Polly Mertens: I think there's been something along your journey more than just picking up a you know a rock in Dollywood that has guided you through all of this.
• 29:38
  Polly Mertens: I mean the things that we're talking about here.
• 29:40
  Polly Mertens: You know I talk to people my age, decades older than you, and they're not aware of it.
• 29:45
  Polly Mertens: So I just want to like acknowledge you for that.
• 29:49
  Hannah Gatch: And so the question is how can we develop that awareness, you know, if it's not so clear?
• 29:55
  Hannah Gatch: So how that works is channeling is like your five senses.
• 30:02
  Hannah Gatch: So we have that gut feeling, you know, that gut feeling of maybe I shouldn't walk in there or what they're saying may not have full truth to it.
• 30:10
  Hannah Gatch: That's a feeling.
• 30:12
  Hannah Gatch: That's intuition, so a lot of people listen to that gut feeling.
• 30:15
  Hannah Gatch: The other one is clear hearing, which is a lot of what I'm sharing.
• 30:19
  Hannah Gatch: It's sometimes hard to decipher your thought, random thought and spiritual thought, but there's this.
• 30:24
  Hannah Gatch: It's your voice, you know.
• 30:26
  Hannah Gatch: But there's a certain tone to it that like there's a seriousness to it, instead of just something that's coming and going.
• 30:33
  Hannah Gatch: There are other channels, like clear seeing, closing your eyes.
• 30:37
  Hannah Gatch: Some people have visions or colors.
• 30:39
  Hannah Gatch: Most people dream at night.
• 30:42
  Hannah Gatch: That is an intuitive development.
• 30:45
  Hannah Gatch: You can just choose to do it when you're not sleeping and there are ways to do it.
• 30:51
  Hannah Gatch: I think everybody has spiritual gifts.
• 30:53
  Hannah Gatch: It's just the will to want to activate that, and that's something throughout my entire journey was.
• 30:59
  Hannah Gatch: I always have this will in me to know myself more.
• 31:04
  Hannah Gatch: But also I have this like feeling of this ticking time clock.
• 31:09
  Hannah Gatch: It's like okay, if I'm only here this long, I'm running out of time.
• 31:13
  Hannah Gatch: What can I do differently to this?
• 31:17
  Hannah Gatch: Doesn't work.
• 31:17
  Hannah Gatch: How does this?
• 31:18
  Hannah Gatch: And so everybody can develop that and there's different tools that you can do as well, but the most powerful thing is intention, just asking, or the will to want to develop into this those gifts more.
• 31:31
  Polly Mertens: Wow so.
• 31:32
  Polly Mertens: So take us down a little journey.
• 31:33
  Polly Mertens: So let's say, somebody listening to this, all of this is new.
• 31:36
  Polly Mertens: So you've got a beginner on your hands and you're like somebody comes to you and says, hannah, like you're so advanced, like where do I start?
• 31:44
  Polly Mertens: You know, like what, what?
• 31:46
  Polly Mertens: What practical one, two, three, or start with this, or be open to this, or you know, I mean you said a little bit of it, but like what would you tell that person?
• 31:54
  Hannah Gatch: So, first and foremost, I would tell them and start off with you are exactly right where you're supposed to be in your spiritual journey.
• 32:00
  Hannah Gatch: So never compare yourself to someone else, because your timeline is completely different and, as we know, most timelines are not linear.
• 32:09
  Hannah Gatch: The other thing is, let's get out of the whole psychic.
• 32:14
  Hannah Gatch: Like you know channeling, but intuition can be something that's just this deep inner knowing.
• 32:20
  Hannah Gatch: Um, let's start off with purpose or a dream.
• 32:23
  Hannah Gatch: A lot of us have had a dream placed into our mind or our heart for a reason.
• 32:27
  Hannah Gatch: Um, a lot of that is intuitive you feeling your soul at a soul's level to understand what it's yearning for, and you can align with those things and develop those skills to make it happen.
• 32:40
  Hannah Gatch: However, for beginners, think of your clairs or your senses.
• 32:47
  Hannah Gatch: My first ever psychic experience, I remembered she told me all these different things that nobody else knew and I'm like, oh my gosh, how, how did you know you were intuitive?
• 33:00
  Hannah Gatch: And she was like I don't know, when I was a kid I would close my eyes and I would see purple spots, and now I know exactly what she's talking about.
• 33:11
  Hannah Gatch: I don't know if you've done the meditation where, like you, can close your eyes, you just surrender.
• 33:15
  Hannah Gatch: Sometimes you'll see like a little color that starts expanding and then it goes to another color.
• 33:20
  Hannah Gatch: That is the activation of visuals.
• 33:23
  Hannah Gatch: And it's not always color with people, sometimes it's daydreaming.
• 33:27
  Hannah Gatch: We all have that intuitive gift.
• 33:29
  Hannah Gatch: It could be driving in the car.
• 33:30
  Hannah Gatch: You're looking at all the red lights, stop signs, you're driving safe, but you're in your mind.
• 33:37
  Hannah Gatch: You know whether it's what you're going to do when you go home, or just daydreaming.
• 33:41
  Hannah Gatch: That is visuals.
• 33:43
  Hannah Gatch: It's like these little movies.
• 33:44
  Hannah Gatch: You don't physically see them with your physical eyes, but it's in the mind's eye, if that makes sense.
• 33:48
  Hannah Gatch: The other channeling styles is again like we talked about the clear hearing.
• 33:53
  Hannah Gatch: You can ask yourself and develop those gifts.
• 33:57
  Hannah Gatch: If you get a thought that comes through that really, really resonates, or something strong, you can go to your heart and just ask is this something that means something to me or is this powerful?
• 34:09
  Hannah Gatch: And revisit that thought and get clarity.
• 34:11
  Hannah Gatch: And there are other senses and styles, but those are the two easiest.
• 34:15
  Hannah Gatch: And just knowing too, when you research how to develop these things.
• 34:19
  Hannah Gatch: Everybody's spiritual practice is individual.
• 34:21
  Hannah Gatch: What may work for Susie might work for Becky and vice versa.
• 34:26
  Hannah Gatch: But I like to say spirit, or source your intuition, spirit guides, whatever you want to call it, are like a gentleman.
• 34:33
  Hannah Gatch: They're not going to just walk in or waltz in.
• 34:36
  Hannah Gatch: You have to invite them in.
• 34:38
  Hannah Gatch: They're always around you.
• 34:40
  Hannah Gatch: You can feel those presences and see the little signs, whether it's numbers, animals, colors.
• 34:46
  Hannah Gatch: But as you start to see that and invite them to work with you more or to understand them, the antennas get a lot stronger.
• 34:58
  Hannah Gatch: And of course, there are tools that you can use through meditation, through crystals, through, you know, just researching into different realms.
• 35:07
  Hannah Gatch: You can ask to access that knowledge and information, to obtain those gifts.
• 35:11
  Hannah Gatch: Everybody is a psychic in a way.
• 35:14
  Hannah Gatch: My silly example is you can be in the grocery store line, headphones on, just looking in front of you and all of a sudden you just kind of feel something behind you and you turn around and there's a lady with a grocery store cart right behind you.
• 35:30
  Hannah Gatch: That's intuitive.
• 35:31
  Hannah Gatch: We feel those subtle shifts and again, some of them are in your face.
• 35:37
  Hannah Gatch: Some can be very, very small, but there's deep meaning into everything, wow.
• 35:42
  Polly Mertens: I want to double click on something you said about the.
• 35:44
  Polly Mertens: You know inviting them in and they're there.
• 35:48
  Polly Mertens: So what if somebody's never experienced that Like, how do you, how do you invite them in?
• 35:53
  Polly Mertens: What do you?
• 35:53
  Polly Mertens: Because in?
• 35:54
  Polly Mertens: Because I have a mentor who's very in touch with some of the things that you're talking about and she often reminds me when you're talking or you're asking for help or whatever.
• 36:03
  Polly Mertens: Be very clear.
• 36:05
  Polly Mertens: She always says be very clear who you get on the line.
• 36:07
  Polly Mertens: It's like making a phone call and you want to talk to somebody with super specific advice Make sure you call the right number, or something like that.
• 36:17
  Polly Mertens: So what does it mean when you say the realm or the energy, or how would you, how would you ask?
• 36:21
  Polly Mertens: Or what does it sound like when you, you ask or you invite that energy in?
• 36:25
  Hannah Gatch: Well, first and foremost, what I like to say too is, like you said, call in that telephone line, or I like to say like a TV channel.
• 36:33
  Hannah Gatch: He said call in that telephone line, or I like to say like a TV channel.
• 36:38
  Hannah Gatch: Let's say, if you're channel number four, okay, and you want to turn on channel number seven, but you don't have that service or subscription, it's hard to access that.
• 36:45
  Hannah Gatch: So that's kind of where we were talking about vibration to begin with.
• 36:48
  Hannah Gatch: So, first and foremost, if you are going to be accessing your psychic abilities, I would work on rising your vibration first so you can get to those higher channels or subscription.
• 36:58
  Hannah Gatch: That way you're not channeling lowerly things and it's not scary and it's not going to shut off those gifts because it's not what you want.
• 37:07
  Hannah Gatch: So, first and foremost, how you change your vibration is what you feed your body through foods.
• 37:14
  Hannah Gatch: Healthy foods have a healthier, higher vibration and frequency.
• 37:18
  Hannah Gatch: The music that you listen to instead of heavy screamo metal, listening to something that has maybe like some funk pop, you know, or jazz, something that's a higher frequency the other thing is what you listen, put into your mind.
• 37:34
  Hannah Gatch: Our subconscious really absorbs a lot.
• 37:37
  Hannah Gatch: Are we using a lot of social media time and just doom scrolling, or are we reading?
• 37:42
  Hannah Gatch: Those things can lift or lower your vibration as well.
• 37:46
  Hannah Gatch: So let's say we've been eating healthy, we're meditating, we're doing self-care, we're around healthy people, we're reading, we're at a high frequency.
• 37:55
  Hannah Gatch: So next is inviting those spirit guides and presences.
• 37:58
  Hannah Gatch: In how I like to do that is in my own spiritual practice, I like to call upon all angels, guardians, higher beings of light and love to come through and I like to say I like to invite them in and then you can sit through meditation and you can ask them what their names are, what their purposes are and those types of things.
• 38:20
  Hannah Gatch: Now, for beginners, if that's a little overwhelming, you can also just by asking for a small little sign.
• 38:28
  Hannah Gatch: Today, I really want positivity to flow through.
• 38:33
  Hannah Gatch: I would love to see the number 1111 today.
• 38:36
  Hannah Gatch: And again, it's not testing the universe, but it's showing you your pure power of intention.
• 38:42
  Hannah Gatch: If you speak it, we can see it, we can feel it, we can touch it, it can come into existence.
• 38:47
  Hannah Gatch: Once you really start aligning with your manifestations and intentions, that's when we can go inward with more intention.
• 38:56
  Hannah Gatch: If I want to develop, you know, into healing my inner child, I want to bring out and see who can help me with relining, with my, my healing modalities or whatever it is I feel like I'm gifted at.
• 39:10
  Hannah Gatch: There are different ways that you can do the inventations and then my favorite way so that way it's not so hard with the senses is for most beginners, crystals are a really wonderful way to kind of bring in a frequency.
• 39:27
  Hannah Gatch: We were talking about how we have a high or low frequency.
• 39:30
  Hannah Gatch: That's what we channel in, so crystals can actually be introduced into your field or to your environment that attract certain types of energies.
• 39:41
  Hannah Gatch: So, for example, this is one of my smudge feathers, but this one has a beautiful piece of celestite.
• 39:50
  Hannah Gatch: Celestite is a really wonderful stone for inviting angelic contact in stone for inviting angelic contact in.
• 40:00
  Hannah Gatch: So when I feel like, hey, I'm having a stressful day or I'm about to meditate, I put this specifically in.
• 40:04
  Hannah Gatch: Or a cleanse to bring in angelic energy.
• 40:07
  Hannah Gatch: So it's less that you have to intentfully do, you can environmentally bring in those things.
• 40:12
  Hannah Gatch: There are also crystals to develop your intuition, my personal favorite being a Moldavite, which is a stone that fell from outer space.
• 40:27
  Hannah Gatch: This is a stone that came from a meteorite collision and it's considered the stone that accesses all higher realms star seed, angel, shamanic.
• 40:44
  Hannah Gatch: So there are crystals that you can also work with to access and invite those energies in, as we discussed.
• 40:47
  Hannah Gatch: And of course, there are other stones as well, like we talked about, with protection and certain vibrations.
• 40:53
  Hannah Gatch: There are other stones, like tourmalines and quartz, that will help ground the analytical mind so you can decipher your thought, random thought, intuitive and also protection.
• 41:04
  Hannah Gatch: So we have external tools that we can use and it's not just always inward as well.
• 41:12
  Polly Mertens: Oh, my God, you know it's funny that you mentioned celestite, because I'd never heard of that before, right?
• 41:16
  Polly Mertens: So a girlfriend of mine and we're going to go out on a little bit of my journey for a second.
• 41:21
  Polly Mertens: So a girlfriend of mine gave me a deck of cards that long story.
• 41:24
  Polly Mertens: It has gems, herbs and spirit animals, right, it's called the 13 Holy Nights.
• 41:30
  Polly Mertens: Maybe I'll share it with you after this.
• 41:33
  Polly Mertens: So you do it over the holidays, like I think you start on the winter solstice and it carries you through like January 6 or something.
• 41:42
  Polly Mertens: So it's 13 nights.
• 41:43
  Polly Mertens: You do it.
• 41:43
  Polly Mertens: You pull a card every night and it's for the year ahead, so every month, but it gives you a year card and I think you pull three for the year.
• 41:50
  Polly Mertens: And celestite was my stone for this year and I was like what the heck is celestite?
• 41:56
  Polly Mertens: So I've got some, you know, I've picked some up.
• 41:59
  Polly Mertens: I'm like I've got to have this in my life and so it's in my little altar and stuff.
• 42:02
  Polly Mertens: So I love that you're saying, because that's a lot of what my card reading was about was like inviting those in.
• 42:08
  Polly Mertens: So there's no doubt that it was supposed to come to the store and we're supposed to have this conversation because all of what you're saying is just like it's popping for me over here.
• 42:15
  Hannah Gatch: I hope it's popping for you if you're listening to this and you're getting some gems, because hannah's dropping the bombs right now and so with the crystals, though, not only can you invite that energy in, but then you can start working with them and manifestation emotional cleansing and healing which changes our vibration.
• 42:34
  Hannah Gatch: There are multiple ways you can go about your spiritual awakening, whether it's healing tools that activate and like unlock, through diving inward and dealing with some emotions, and then also sometimes, like in my case, I think, a trauma you know starts to unlock and awaken by showing you hey, you're down this hole, this is what it's going to be like, and you have the decider and free will to continue this or to change.
• 43:03
  Hannah Gatch: And so everybody's spiritual awakening is different, and that's why I said, your journey may look different, but you're right where you're supposed to be interest in holistic things, looking at something different than your norm.
• 43:17
  Hannah Gatch: That in itself is creating inertia for movement and for change.
• 43:24
  Polly Mertens: Do you have any?
• 43:24
  Polly Mertens: So we talked a little bit about the celestite, because that ring it's a celestite, and the Moldavite for like, bringing in angelic and higher consciousness no-transcript calling in when you let's say you have a goal for something, you know, you have something that maybe it seems impossible.
• 44:10
  Polly Mertens: Or I mean, you're you know, you had the story of your journey to Arizona, but you just sort of surrendered to that.
• 44:15
  Polly Mertens: But what if there was something that someone's like man, I've been wanting this thing to occur in my life and I haven't yet had it and I've been waiting and I don't know what to do?
• 44:24
  Polly Mertens: Or you know, I love how you were in your fishing trip and like, well, you know what's, what am I doing wrong and stuff.
• 44:29
  Polly Mertens: So what, what is some of the things that unlock manifestation or our ability to remember?
• 44:34
  Polly Mertens: We're creators.
• 44:35
  Hannah Gatch: Well, when we think of manifestation, I like to think of like a math equation.
• 44:40
  Hannah Gatch: Manifestation is our end goal, so the equation to that is inertia, which is like the beginning stages of shifts shift in perspective, a shift in what your intention is or goal.
• 44:57
  Hannah Gatch: Then you have change, inertia, change, and then you have creation, manifestation.
• 45:04
  Hannah Gatch: So change is now going into changing lifestyle choices, habits that align more with your short and long-term goals.
• 45:12
  Hannah Gatch: And so, for me, with manifestation, just like you said, we can manifest anything, whether that's positive or negative, I think the spiritual world.
• 45:22
  Hannah Gatch: When we think of manifestation it's always rainbows and sunshine, but we can also manifest chaos, um different things in our lives as well, and that's kind of where free will and choice can come into there, to there.
• 45:41
  Hannah Gatch: So in the case of me coming to Sedona, um, or any case of manifestation, it's the first thought of feeling, feel it as if it's already happened first.
• 45:46
  Hannah Gatch: Then you can align with is this right for me or is it not?
• 45:50
  Hannah Gatch: Then, once we um kind of equate that and create the inertia, we can now plug in the changes.
• 45:57
  Hannah Gatch: Okay, so in that case I had to change the mindset of security, this career that I've had prior.
• 46:04
  Hannah Gatch: I get XML every two weeks.
• 46:06
  Hannah Gatch: If I move cross-country I have to restart completely.
• 46:10
  Hannah Gatch: And I don't know what it is.
• 46:11
  Hannah Gatch: It could be more, it could be less Also part of that manifestation.
• 46:17
  Hannah Gatch: So it's feeling it, seeing what you need to change, but then also what aligns and seems familiar to the end goal, to also know that you're on the right track for your manifestation.
• 46:29
  Hannah Gatch: Um, and so for me, um, with my move cross country, I checked in with my source, um, and said is this the right, you know, journey?
• 46:38
  Hannah Gatch: And then also part of that surrender was I just was like, you know, if this is supposed to happen, I surrender, I let go of all control.
• 46:48
  Hannah Gatch: I know that God knows that I need a house, I need a job and I just know that if I'm told to come here, it will happen.
• 46:56
  Hannah Gatch: And you know, I got free housing my first six months of living here.
• 47:01
  Hannah Gatch: I got hired at this job that wasn't hiring at the time that I now manage.
• 47:07
  Hannah Gatch: And so a part of the manifestation is just believing, surrender and knowing.
• 47:13
  Hannah Gatch: And surrender is not letting go of control and not doing anything.
• 47:18
  Hannah Gatch: Surrender is essentially giving up, trying to understand everything and sitting with, being comfortable with not exactly knowing what the 100% outcome is.
• 47:30
  Hannah Gatch: But knowing that if you align with intention, manifestation of the goal that you want in the end, and um, the surrender, things come to you and present in ways that are unexpected, um, that can even be better than our expectations.
• 47:46
  Hannah Gatch: Um, and with manifestation, I like to say, have standards, boundaries, you know, non-negotiable things that you won't go below.
• 47:55
  Hannah Gatch: But not not setting an intention or, sorry, setting an expectation, because sometimes we have an expectation of how it's going to outcome to be when we couldn't even fathom it being 10 times better.
• 48:09
  Hannah Gatch: And that also targets into with manifestation.
• 48:12
  Hannah Gatch: It's not only creating new things, it's also about attracting, and that comes into the heart chakra.
• 48:19
  Hannah Gatch: I am deserving, I am worthy, I attract that way if you see all the signs and things that it's possible.
• 48:28
  Hannah Gatch: But it's another thing to integrate it and to hold it as yours too.
• 48:33
  Polly Mertens: Wow, I dig that.
• 48:34
  Polly Mertens: So heart chakra what do you think of when you say heart chakra?
• 48:36
  Polly Mertens: Is there a crystal that comes to mind?
• 48:36
  Polly Mertens: Chakra what do you think of when you say heart chakra?
• 48:38
  Polly Mertens: Is there a crystal that comes to mind or a stone that you love?
• 48:41
  Polly Mertens: For that.
• 48:42
  Hannah Gatch: So, when it comes to heart chakra, the first one that comes to mind for me is a really funky one.
• 48:46
  Hannah Gatch: It looks like this it's prionite and epidome.
• 48:51
  Hannah Gatch: Prionite and epidome are going to target the heart chakra.
• 48:55
  Hannah Gatch: And when I say chakras, chakras are like pressure points, but we're our emotion store in our bodies, so that one is all about targeting heaviness, overwhelmingness, trauma, sadness, anything that's not happy.
• 49:12
  Hannah Gatch: It's all about detoxing it from the heart.
• 49:15
  Hannah Gatch: And when all of this heaviness or walls aren't built up, that's where we can start to open up, to attract and bring in.
• 49:23
  Hannah Gatch: And also, too, with the heart chakra that is the powerhouse of self-love, those feelings of deservingness, worthiness.
• 49:32
  Hannah Gatch: And if we're going to be channeling too, we want to channel out of love, light healing.
• 49:37
  Hannah Gatch: That's a really, really important one.
• 49:39
  Hannah Gatch: It's not just in the third eye.
• 49:44
  Polly Mertens: And I think we're going to have you back on for a whole episode of like all, like we need another download of all these gems.
• 49:51
  Polly Mertens: I say gems, you know, like loosely, but like like there's so much that you can share with people that can serve them.
• 49:59
  Polly Mertens: You know, and, and like I started so, my friend, I think, for my birthday last year gave me a couple of stones and I was like, oh, I mean like I've had stones but I haven't really.
• 50:09
  Polly Mertens: I mean, I know about amethyst, you know as relaxing or something like that, but I hadn't really dove in Right, and so she gave me these three and I and I had, and I was like I'm going to look up what these are all about.
• 50:20
  Polly Mertens: You know, I got this beautiful one I have in my hand and for those of you that are just listening and not seeing, so the one that Hannah was talking about was this beautiful green kind of picture, a crystal with lots of little facets and stuff, and I've got this one in my hand as a um, it's like a, it looks like a rock, but it's got these striations and it's like black and white, like you just like put like a white rock, and then you had like dental floss or something.
• 50:41
  Polly Mertens: You painted it black or something, and this is called Picasso, I think Right.
• 50:45
  Polly Mertens: Or Picasso, something, another right, picasso, jasper, picasso, jasper, that's what it's called.
• 50:50
  Polly Mertens: Yeah, I just think of it as.
• 51:08
  Polly Mertens: I think of it as creativity, because when I looked into the stone it was like, oh, this is your creative energy, creative inspiration, like Picasso, right, and you like you're, you feel like you're in a good place.
• 51:19
  Polly Mertens: Do you have nudges of like going back to South Carolina?
• 51:21
  Polly Mertens: Or do you feel like like I've got a home, I'm grounded, I'm growing?
• 51:25
  Polly Mertens: Or do you have inspiration Like where are you going with your life?
• 51:29
  Polly Mertens: What's next for you?
• 51:30
  Hannah Gatch: I love that I'm still figuring that out.
• 51:32
  Hannah Gatch: Every day is a new journey.
• 51:34
  Hannah Gatch: As far as home, sedona is my home.
• 51:37
  Hannah Gatch: I've visited family back East several times, and every time I'm there after day three I'm like I have to get back.
• 51:45
  Hannah Gatch: With that being said, though, what my future entails, and why I have such a zest for it is, I truly understand the power of now Living in.
• 51:57
  Hannah Gatch: You know, in my early ages you ages not really being able to do much I really just had no will for life.
• 52:03
  Hannah Gatch: I really didn't want to be here.
• 52:06
  Hannah Gatch: If I didn't have choice, I couldn't feel happy, and I really never saw myself living past a certain age, my early 20s and now that I'm here, I understand that every day is a new purpose.
• 52:20
  Hannah Gatch: I now have control over parenting myself and aligning with what I need to do in this life, and I think the eagerness comes from that switch of not wanting to be here too.
• 52:32
  Hannah Gatch: It's an honor to be here, and I'm doing everybody else an injustice by not doing what I'm supposed to be doing in this lifetime.
• 52:40
  Hannah Gatch: Maybe that's putting accountability on others, but it really helps me to keep doing it for the collective and also to understanding that every day is a new journey, a new purpose, and tomorrow I want to discover more of who Hannah is.
• 52:59
  Hannah Gatch: And there's Les Brown's, one of my favorite speakers he talks about.
• 53:03
  Hannah Gatch: Imagine if you were, you know, towards the end of your life, you're on your deathbed.
• 53:09
  Hannah Gatch: Imagine the spirit surrounding you are all of the talents, the ideas, the things that you were capable of that God handpicked for you and you didn't and these are all the ghosts that are haunting you of you could have done something with us.
• 53:24
  Hannah Gatch: I don't want to have a life of regrets.
• 53:26
  Hannah Gatch: I think that's what helps me motivate.
• 53:28
  Hannah Gatch: And then also to know that every day, as long as I try something new or keep doing what's working for me, I can build that relationship with all of those spirits of ideas, creativity, you know, encouragement and all of these things that are surrounding me, because we all have our own handpicked, individual gifts, and I haven't discovered all mine yet and I still want to.
• 53:54
  Hannah Gatch: And the last thing I wanted to say about that too, is just embracing the fact that you cannot manifest a new life, or the life that you desire, at a soulful level If you're allowing your old self, your old life, to dictate and run it for you.
• 54:10
  Polly Mertens: And I believe that change is really what creates that, wow, and it sounds like you're still guided by those clarifying thoughts, the what did you call them?
• 54:21
  Polly Mertens: The certainty voice, if you will, right.
• 54:24
  Polly Mertens: So how do you distinguish and maybe this is our one of our final questions how do you distinguish between you know, that random ass monkey mind voice and just thoughts that you know and I look at it like they're.
• 54:41
  Polly Mertens: Often, if they're abusing me or if they're fear based, I'm like, okay, that's not coming from a high place, so that's probably not it.
• 54:47
  Polly Mertens: But still there can be things that are like, well, maybe you should do this, or maybe you should look into that, or did you think about this, or what did that for you know?
• 54:54
  Polly Mertens: Like just that kind of whatever.
• 54:56
  Polly Mertens: So how do you distinguish that?
• 54:58
  Polly Mertens: What are some ways that you do that?
• 55:00
  Hannah Gatch: Well, first and foremost I want to point off of what you just said Beautiful Spirit is never going to be negative, harmful, any of those things.
• 55:10
  Hannah Gatch: So let negative, nancy, you know, go away.
• 55:13
  Hannah Gatch: We'll win by positive.
• 55:14
  Hannah Gatch: You know, positivity in.
• 55:17
  Hannah Gatch: And so, with that being said, that kind of touches base back to the chakras, so we have our emotional points and then each of the points have a spiritual activation to them as well.
• 55:30
  Hannah Gatch: So if you think thoughts are up here in the crown, sometimes, if it's hard to distinctify those different tones or discernment, sometimes we're overactive up here.
• 55:41
  Hannah Gatch: So that's where grounding really comes in Meditation, earthing even as simple as just breathing and letting the mental chatter kind of slow down so we can start to decipher and discern.
• 55:54
  Hannah Gatch: And then my favorite crystal actually is great for that, which is the bumblebee jasper.
• 56:00
  Hannah Gatch: Bumblebee jasper, specifically, is a stone for grounding, so it helps to easier decipher your thought, random, intuitive thought.
• 56:10
  Hannah Gatch: It also connects to our solar plexus, which is the confidence of knowing, and that's where intuition comes in and that discernment of knowing.
• 56:20
  Hannah Gatch: Okay, that thought has a power to it.
• 56:24
  Hannah Gatch: You know whether it's I'm driving and I just get this thought that says go off the interstate instead, and then you go on your phone later on and you see the road that you normally take had an accident on it and you just saved yourself 20 minutes of traffic time listening to that gut intuition, and that will also help to decipher those intuitive thoughts as well.
• 56:44
  Hannah Gatch: The other thing that also can help with deciphering too is just asking yourself does this feel right?
• 56:53
  Hannah Gatch: Feeling is such a powerful thing and I think that's where that discernment will also activate as well.
• 57:00
  Hannah Gatch: If it feels happy, if it feels like it excites you, that is something that's meant for you.
• 57:05
  Hannah Gatch: But if there's procrastination or I don't want to do that, some of the things in adulthood we do have to do but if it's an intuitive thing, it's from spirit, from source, from your higher self it's always going to unlock and activate something joyous in you, and that is also a great way to know what's discernment as well.
• 57:27
  Polly Mertens: Too true, too true.
• 57:28
  Polly Mertens: One of my mentors that I was saying earlier.
• 57:31
  Polly Mertens: She says if it's light, it's right.
• 57:32
  Polly Mertens: I love that If it feels light, it's right for you, and that's where we have to translate what we're thinking about or what the thoughts are.
• 57:40
  Polly Mertens: You know what we're receiving, so so good.
• 57:42
  Polly Mertens: What else would you like to share with our listeners?
• 57:46
  Polly Mertens: Anything else that we haven't discussed already?
• 57:48
  Polly Mertens: That is burning, that you want to share, please?
• 57:51
  Hannah Gatch: I would have to say it's interesting how people are more comfortable with a life that's familiar but uncomfortable than to deal with the feelings of being unfamiliar.
• 58:03
  Hannah Gatch: But it has new possibilities that are there to unlock.
• 58:08
  Hannah Gatch: So I like to say get outside your comfort zone a little bit more.
• 58:12
  Hannah Gatch: You know, some of these new things might feel scary, but it's still going to have that excitement.
• 58:18
  Hannah Gatch: But learning to embrace that surrender, letting go of the control and knowing and you know what's there to lose.
• 58:27
  Hannah Gatch: If you fail, it's not failure because you learn something new from it.
• 58:31
  Hannah Gatch: It unlocks something within you or by trying that new thing there's a new possibility or a new horizon.
• 58:39
  Hannah Gatch: That's there.
• 58:39
  Hannah Gatch: You cannot lose trying something new.
• 58:44
  Polly Mertens: So true, the land of comfort.
• 58:46
  Polly Mertens: You know that goes a little bit, so I think we'll use that as our one thing.
• 58:54
  Polly Mertens: So, thank you, I will take that as the one thing if you get.
• 58:55
  Polly Mertens: Or is there anything else Like?
• 58:56
  Polly Mertens: Is there one thing that you would summarize?
• 58:57
  Polly Mertens: That was a gem right there.
• 58:58
  Polly Mertens: Is there one thing that you would want?
• 59:00
  Polly Mertens: If somebody fast forwards this whole episode and they just get one thing out of this, what would you want people to know or understand or hear from you?
• 59:08
  Hannah Gatch: I would say, if someone was going to summarize this entire thing, is everybody has free will in their higher self.
• 59:18
  Hannah Gatch: You have the ability to choose or not, to choose to do things in life, but through free will, we can choose to realign a life that's more purposeful and fulfilling, whether that's connecting to a source greater than yourself through modalities, holistic tools, meditation, holistic tools, meditation or to connect to a source greater than yourself to be inspired to manifest a new outcome.
• 59:44
  Hannah Gatch: If this moment of life isn't um, you know the journey that you're wanting right now, um, to be inspired.
• 59:49
  Hannah Gatch: You know that everybody has gone through adversities, trials and tribulations.
• 59:53
  Hannah Gatch: This is not the ending of your story, it's just one of the chapters, and with me seeking something that's greater than myself, letting go of my own power and giving it to something that I know has more power, has been one of the most fulfilling things in my life, and I would love to see if that inspires other people to kind of go on their own spiritual journey, whether that's religious, spiritual, holistic but to seek something to create change and inertia in their lives if they want something more.
• 1:00:29
  Polly Mertens: Many ways to do that, and so share with us.
• 1:00:32
  Polly Mertens: You are creating a podcast to come, so what is the name of it?
• 1:00:38
  Polly Mertens: Or what is it?
• 1:00:38
  Polly Mertens: You have two, or like there's something about teeth.
• 1:00:42
  Hannah Gatch: There's two podcasts.
• 1:00:44
  Hannah Gatch: One is going to be my own podcast, which is called Seeking Higher Grounds.
• 1:00:49
  Hannah Gatch: I'm hoping to have my first episode out within the next three weeks.
• 1:00:52
  Hannah Gatch: Seeking Higher Grounds is just sharing more in my story and others about adversities and what specific moment or moments was your no turn back moment of changing your life as you knew it, or to be inspired by what you went through to help inspire others.
• 1:01:13
  Hannah Gatch: The other one is with Emerson.
• 1:01:15
  Hannah Gatch: We're going to have this really fun one.
• 1:01:18
  Hannah Gatch: It's for girls you know the women goddesses called Tea Talk and it's just about sharing worldly things like how certain obstacles people places, things make us feel sharing, as if, like we're talking to our girlfriends.
• 1:01:35
  Hannah Gatch: It's just an open chat talk, and I also think it'll be really fun too, because we're going to talk a little bit about certain interactions we have at the store not guests specifically, but you know whether it was we learned something new, whether it was from an interaction.
• 1:01:51
  Hannah Gatch: So it's just all about talking openly, just about you know anything, girl talk.
• 1:01:57
  Polly Mertens: Girl talk.
• 1:01:58
  Polly Mertens: I love it.
• 1:01:58
  Polly Mertens: I love it.
• 1:01:59
  Polly Mertens: Well, that's a little bit of what Samantha and I enjoy doing on this as well.
• 1:02:02
  Polly Mertens: You know, there's sometimes there's wisdom coming out of these mouths and sometimes it's just, you know, fun to have a great conversation with another friend, so beautiful.
• 1:02:10
  Polly Mertens: Well, hannah, I hope people will tune into your podcast.
• 1:02:14
  Polly Mertens: Please, you know, check back in with us and let us know once you get it live, and we will happily share it and get people subscribing to it, and it's been a delight to have you here.
• 1:02:23
  Polly Mertens: So thank you for joining me today.
• 1:02:26
  Hannah Gatch: Of course.
• 1:02:26
  Hannah Gatch: Thank you for having me.
• 1:02:28
  Polly Mertens: And so, to our listeners, I want to share with you our, as always, our final closing.
• 1:02:34
  Polly Mertens: Remember, dear ones, how your life feels is not as important.
• 1:02:38
  Polly Mertens: I'm sorry.
• 1:02:38
  Polly Mertens: How your life feels is more important than how it looks, and every day is your opportunity to find your awesome.