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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 0:04Speaker 1: six forty.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hey, why am six forty? Bill Handle here and welcome
- 0:11Speaker 2: back to the show. Right now, the justices Supreme Court
- 0:15Speaker 2: is hearing arguments over Trump's tariff power, and it looks
- 0:22Speaker 2: like even the most conservative of the justices are arguing
- 0:26Speaker 2: with the Solicitor General represents the United States saying, hey,
- 0:29Speaker 2: is there any limit to Trump's power to tariff? And
- 0:34Speaker 2: effectively what the government is saying, Nope. If the if
- 0:37Speaker 2: the President says that there's an emergency, there is an emergency,
- 0:43Speaker 2: are there any limits? And the Solicitor General is saying
- 0:47Speaker 2: effectively no. Wow, well we'll see. I would have a
- 0:53Speaker 2: hard time with the Supreme Court giving Trump a victory
- 0:57Speaker 2: on that one.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Well know, in June. It's gonna be a while now.
- 1:02Speaker 2: One of the things that is happening as a result
- 1:04Speaker 2: of the shutdown today is thirty day thirty six thirty
- 1:08Speaker 2: five was the record of the governmental shutdown, and that
- 1:11Speaker 2: was during Donald Trump's first term. So we're away into
- 1:14Speaker 2: it and we're still not even close to getting through this.
- 1:18Speaker 1: A couple things about the shutdown is one of them.
- 1:24Speaker 1: There are I guess.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Millions of people at this point that work for the
- 1:27Speaker 2: government are getting their paycheck.
- 1:29Speaker 1: That doesn't affect you unless.
- 1:32Speaker 2: You work for the government, unless you have a family
- 1:34Speaker 2: member or you sell to the government. Really doesn't affect
- 1:38Speaker 2: It doesn't affect me except if.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I want to fly.
- 1:45Speaker 2: And that is a whole lot of people that fly
- 1:48Speaker 2: in this country, particularly during the holiday season coming up,
- 1:53Speaker 2: and in general, I mean an enormous number of people
- 1:56Speaker 2: fly in this country. I mean I just probably what
- 1:59Speaker 2: one hundred million people a third of the country flies.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Now the shutdown is really hitting Home and Transportation Secretary
- 2:07Speaker 2: Sean Duffy said yesterday that the US might be forced
- 2:11Speaker 2: to close parts of airspace, not just closing down airports
- 2:17Speaker 2: delaying flights because of the shortage of air traffic controller,
- 2:20Speaker 2: but shutting down airspace. No planes can fly in that area,
- 2:26Speaker 2: not cargo planes where there isn't a wait in line. Now, no,
- 2:31Speaker 2: we've never done that before. And the shutdown dragging into
- 2:35Speaker 2: second month has meant that essential workers, and I just
- 2:39Speaker 2: wanted to understand, including air traffic controllers, have been working
- 2:43Speaker 2: without pay. They're mandated to work, they have to work,
- 2:46Speaker 2: but they don't get paid, which I don't understand. Because
- 2:51Speaker 2: there are parts of the government and the workers that
- 2:55Speaker 2: do get paid automatically by law, they get paid, and
- 3:00Speaker 2: the armed services which do not get paid. The government
- 3:04Speaker 2: has been able to find money to pay them, but
- 3:07Speaker 2: not air traffic controllers, which I don't understand because they
- 3:12Speaker 2: are so important and without them, the flying just shuts down.
- 3:20Speaker 2: And so there is a shortage of controllers, according to
- 3:24Speaker 2: Duffy from two three thousand controllers, and then he said,
- 3:29Speaker 2: so if you bring us to a week from today, Democrats,
- 3:33Speaker 2: you will see mass, mass chaos. You will see mass
- 3:36Speaker 2: flight delays, You'll see mass cancelations. You may see us
- 3:40Speaker 2: close certain parts of the airspace because we just can't
- 3:43Speaker 2: manage it. We don't have the air traffic controllers. You
- 3:45Speaker 2: don't have the air traffic controllers, you can't fly. And
- 3:49Speaker 2: so the flight delays and cancellations has been piling up
- 3:52Speaker 2: like crazy. House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries has rebutted the
- 3:58Speaker 2: claims that it's the Democrats fault, and he's saying that
- 4:02Speaker 2: it's the Republican's fault, and that seems to be what's
- 4:05Speaker 2: going on right now because this has become a political football,
- 4:09Speaker 2: and this is where I think the Republicans are failing miserably.
- 4:15Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about the politics of this.
- 4:19Speaker 1: I'm really not. We know that the Democrats what they want.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Is to keep the additional funding of Medicaid and Medicaid
- 4:33Speaker 2: and parts of Medicare non thing. Medicare is okay, but
- 4:37Speaker 2: extensions of Obamacare after the pandemic. Congress voted extensions increase
- 4:43Speaker 2: of increase of money, increase of subsidies, and those end
- 4:49Speaker 2: at the end of this year. And the Democrats say,
- 4:51Speaker 2: we have to keep those going. We have to keep
- 4:54Speaker 2: those going, and the Republicans say, no, we're not. So
- 4:58Speaker 2: the actual underlying issue is the Obamacare increases, and that's
- 5:05Speaker 2: for the Democrats. The Republicans are saying in poy do
- 5:08Speaker 2: they have a point, saying, hey, we'll talk about this,
- 5:10Speaker 2: but you can't.
- 5:11Speaker 1: You can't keep the government shut down. You can't.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Well the Democrats saying, yes, we can. And the problem
- 5:21Speaker 2: with the politics here is the longer this way and
- 5:24Speaker 2: this goes on, the more we hurt. And the Republicans
- 5:28Speaker 2: are getting most of the blame. They're the ones that
- 5:31Speaker 2: are being blamed. Forget about your politics, or forget about
- 5:35Speaker 2: the underlying merits.
- 5:36Speaker 1: I don't care which side you're on.
- 5:39Speaker 2: If you are a Republican, you're getting blamed, and if
- 5:41Speaker 2: you're a Democrat, Republicans are getting blamed. And at some
- 5:45Speaker 2: point when you come back, tell me that this is
- 5:47Speaker 2: not going to affect the down voting.
- 5:53Speaker 1: What's going to happen. Now Here's the other thing.
- 5:55Speaker 2: If it keeps on going over another given length of time,
- 5:59Speaker 2: let's say goes on for weeks, come the midterms, and
- 6:02Speaker 2: the Republicans get the blame, it's gonna be tough for
- 6:07Speaker 2: a Republican candidate, whether a new candidate or someone trying
- 6:12Speaker 2: to be elected again. It's going to be tough when
- 6:18Speaker 2: the accusation is you would not give us our insurance.
- 6:24Speaker 2: You have made sure that we will never have enough insurance,
- 6:29Speaker 2: so we are going to go broke. You are doubling
- 6:32Speaker 2: the amount of money we are paying for insurance, and
- 6:34Speaker 2: the Republicans are saying, we'll talk about it, we'll talk
- 6:37Speaker 2: about it, just make sure the government gets moving again. Well,
- 6:42Speaker 2: the Democrats, legitimately enough, are saying, you guys are a
- 6:45Speaker 2: bunch of liars. You have no intention of expanding Obamacare
- 6:51Speaker 2: or allowing Obamacare to move at the same at the
- 6:54Speaker 2: same point that we have now. You want Obamacare to fail.
- 7:01Speaker 2: You want forty million people in this country or twenty
- 7:05Speaker 2: three million.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Forty million is food Span stamps.
- 7:09Speaker 2: You want twenty three million people in this country to
- 7:12Speaker 2: effectively not be able to afford insurance anymore. And the
- 7:17Speaker 2: Republicans can't refute that, but they're willing to talk about it.
- 7:24Speaker 2: And Schumer and Hakim Jeffrey say, you know what, you
- 7:27Speaker 2: can't believe them, they're liars. We're not going to let
- 7:30Speaker 2: the government go on with the promise that we'll be talking,
- 7:34Speaker 2: because you know, the reality is we're not going to
- 7:37Speaker 2: be talking. And this is where the line is drawn.
- 7:41Speaker 2: The line in the sand has been drawn. I don't
- 7:43Speaker 2: know how long this is going to continue. I mean,
- 7:45Speaker 2: at some point we have to get the government moving again.
- 7:49Speaker 2: I mean it can't go on forever, that's impossible. But
- 7:53Speaker 2: how long it lasts don't know. And if the Republicans
- 7:58Speaker 2: are being blamed for this, how long does that go on?
- 8:02Speaker 2: And what kind of hit do they take next election cycle?
- 8:06Speaker 2: Don't know either. All right, let's talk about cloning. In
- 8:12Speaker 2: an interview with People magazine, who else but Brady revealed
- 8:18Speaker 2: he has a new dog Juni, who is a clone
- 8:21Speaker 2: of Lua, a pitbull mix. He announced that the biotech
- 8:28Speaker 2: company Colossal Biosciences.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I love this.
- 8:32Speaker 2: Colossal Biosciences created the clone right after Lua's death, and Brady,
- 8:38Speaker 2: by the way, is an investor in Colossal Biosciences. And
- 8:43Speaker 2: just before Lula died in twenty twenty three, a portion
- 8:47Speaker 2: of her blood was collected and with that the technology
- 8:51Speaker 2: enabled a clone of the dog to be created. Brady
- 8:56Speaker 2: told People magazine, I love my animals. They the world
- 9:00Speaker 2: to me and my family, And he said, a few
- 9:05Speaker 2: years ago, I worked with Colossal and leveraged their non
- 9:08Speaker 2: invasive cloning technology, and there we are. I now have
- 9:13Speaker 2: my old dog with my new dog. So on the
- 9:18Speaker 2: same day Brady of Tom Brady's announcement, Colossal Biosciences bought
- 9:25Speaker 2: viagin pets and equine pets and horses.
- 9:29Speaker 1: I guess, and I didn't even know this.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Do you remember when Dolly the sheep was cloned and
- 9:37Speaker 2: that was the first cloned animal ever, and then you
- 9:39Speaker 2: didn't hear much about it. No, there was some medical
- 9:44Speaker 2: issues with Dolly and that sort of disappeared.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Well, turns out this is a thing.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Barbara Streisand's dog Samantha was clone after Samantha died in
- 9:55Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Paris Hilton's dog, diamond Baby went missing in
- 10:01Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and so Viagin made two clones of of.
- 10:09Speaker 1: A diamond Baby. Here you go.
- 10:13Speaker 2: That's a Bogo Buy one, get one free. That was
- 10:17Speaker 2: the sale going on. Now, the partnership with Viagin will
- 10:22Speaker 2: allow Colossal to expand the current ext de extinction mission.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Now people cloning their animals, Okay, I mean, yeah, how
- 10:32Speaker 2: important is that?
- 10:33Speaker 1: And you know, and how does that work?
- 10:35Speaker 2: By the way, it's people have twins, and effectively, one
- 10:38Speaker 2: twin is a clone of the other. You know, the
- 10:40Speaker 2: personalities are totally different. I mean literally, you're not going
- 10:44Speaker 2: to have the same personality. And so a clone of
- 10:48Speaker 2: an animal physically maybe the exact animal, but it's going
- 10:52Speaker 2: to be living in a different space.
- 10:55Speaker 1: The folks that lives with are in a different space.
- 11:00Speaker 2: And when I talk about a different space, I'm talking
- 11:02Speaker 2: about psychologically. You're just different at different times in your life.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Clones are not the same, although they look the same. Now.
- 11:13Speaker 2: In April, Colossal claim that it had brought back dire wolves,
- 11:18Speaker 2: an extinct species. Ah that's a different thing, because if
- 11:23Speaker 2: you can bring back dire wolves and then Jurassic Park,
- 11:28Speaker 2: you've seen that movie, everybody has where they're able to
- 11:31Speaker 2: take the genetic material from insects that have bitten the
- 11:38Speaker 2: animals and sucked out their blood and they're caught up
- 11:41Speaker 2: in amber and they were able to take out the DNA,
- 11:43Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you've got dinosaurs and you
- 11:47Speaker 2: have a wooly mammoth. Now that one's kind of neat.
- 11:52Speaker 2: I mean, do I care that Tom Brady's dog has
- 11:55Speaker 2: been cloned?
- 11:56Speaker 1: No?
- 11:56Speaker 2: I mean, do I care that Lula has become it's
- 12:02Speaker 2: Lula has become Juni. But the idea of bringing back
- 12:08Speaker 2: extinct animals and species that is neat.
- 12:13Speaker 1: That is really neat. Okay, we're done with that.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Okay, it is time for medical news with doctor Jim Keeney,
- 12:21Speaker 2: chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in
- 12:25Speaker 2: Long Beach, And good morning, Jim, Good morning Bill. Okay,
- 12:30Speaker 2: here we start now. And I think I've shared this
- 12:33Speaker 2: with you before the last few years of my mom's life,
- 12:39Speaker 2: she didn't even recognize me.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Now, in my case, that was a great thing. I
- 12:44Speaker 1: had no problem with her not recognizing me.
- 12:46Speaker 2: But other people have a problem with that, and it's
- 12:49Speaker 2: not just old people that's the problem. It's moving into
- 12:53Speaker 2: young adults with memory problems.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Yeah, So what you're referring to is there's an interesting
- 13:00Speaker 3: study because it was a big survey study of four
- 13:03Speaker 3: point five million people and they've conducted this from twenty
- 13:07Speaker 3: thirteen to twenty twenty three, so it's a ten year
- 13:10Speaker 3: study looking at self reported ability to remember things. And
- 13:15Speaker 3: so it's you know, you're asking people are you are
- 13:17Speaker 3: you how are you doing remembering things? And they're telling
- 13:20Speaker 3: you from their own self reported perspective, oh, I'm remembering
- 13:24Speaker 3: more remembering less. And what they're showing is that that, yes,
- 13:28Speaker 3: young adults are the ones that are complaining most about this.
- 13:33Speaker 3: So this isn't really like the study is observational. It's
- 13:36Speaker 3: asking a question. It's not like looking at an actual diagnosis.
- 13:41Speaker 3: This is self reported, So it's not really good for
- 13:44Speaker 3: saying the incidence of you know, cognitive dysfunction is going up.
- 13:48Speaker 3: But what it's it's giving us a signal that people
- 13:51Speaker 3: are not remembering as well as they as they used to,
- 13:54Speaker 3: and they feel like that's accelerating. So people eighteen to forty,
- 13:58Speaker 3: that's that's the age group that saw almost doubling of
- 14:02Speaker 3: complaints of memory problems, and so we attribute it to age.
- 14:06Speaker 3: And there is certainly you know, Alzheimer's and other age
- 14:09Speaker 3: related dementia, but are there's other factors besides age that
- 14:14Speaker 3: go into memory, like sleep, you know, like your diet,
- 14:17Speaker 3: and are the medications you take, how much exercise you
- 14:21Speaker 3: get the needs may be a reduction in those or
- 14:24Speaker 3: alteration and those maybe having an effect on the younger generation.
- 14:27Speaker 2: So we're not talking about changing treatment at all of
- 14:31Speaker 2: memory problems. It's just they're discovering a new group of
- 14:34Speaker 2: people that there is an increase or at least evidence
- 14:38Speaker 2: that there's an increase of these problems occurring.
- 14:41Speaker 3: I have that right, yeah, exactly. And the other group
- 14:44Speaker 3: besides the age group was socioeconomics, so people with an
- 14:47Speaker 3: income less than thirty five thousand a year, it went
- 14:50Speaker 3: up by about fifty percent compared to you know, people
- 14:53Speaker 3: who are college graduates. It went up very very minimally.
- 14:57Speaker 3: And then same thing with the race prevalence, that minorities
- 15:00Speaker 3: went up more and others. So there's definitely this is
- 15:03Speaker 3: just a signal kind of study, and it's signaling that. Wow. Okay,
- 15:07Speaker 3: so in our lower socioeconomic work group, we may have
- 15:11Speaker 3: problems with memory, you know, with and we need to
- 15:15Speaker 3: look at that.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Yeah, kno, under thirty five thousand dollars a year income
- 15:22Speaker 2: memory problems. Don't forget to come in tomorrow morning. Okay,
- 15:25Speaker 2: I already forgot. Oh he's already forgotten.
- 15:27Speaker 1: He says.
- 15:28Speaker 2: A key biological difference between psychopaths and normal people.
- 15:34Speaker 1: That is a fun one. Please explain.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Yeah, so, you know, so the ted Bundies of the world,
- 15:41Speaker 3: the Hannibal Lecters of the world, that type of thing.
- 15:45Speaker 3: And you've got to be careful with this kind of stuff, right,
- 15:47Speaker 3: because what we're showing is that there it isn't just
- 15:51Speaker 3: this isn't just choices. This also may have some physiologic
- 15:56Speaker 3: you know, basis for why people have a predisposition for psychopathy. Now,
- 16:02Speaker 3: remember being a psychopath, it's not like a diagnosis. There's
- 16:05Speaker 3: not there's not one thing that you get a test
- 16:07Speaker 3: and it shows up. These people have a constellation of symptoms.
- 16:12Speaker 3: Some have more, some have less, and so you have
- 16:15Speaker 3: there's people that have degrees of psychopathy and uh and so,
- 16:20Speaker 3: but what we're showing here is that it's not just choices.
- 16:24Speaker 3: It may actually also be physiologic and that doesn't take
- 16:29Speaker 3: away accountability for people. And that's that's I think where
- 16:31Speaker 3: people go with this. Sometimes when you can show a
- 16:33Speaker 3: physical reason for something, for traits like this.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Yeah, but showing a predisposition, I don't know what good
- 16:40Speaker 2: that does. But do you find this out? Would you
- 16:44Speaker 2: find this out in a simple blood test? And you
- 16:47Speaker 2: look at the various genes that combine together, and we
- 16:51Speaker 2: know a lot of combination of genes cause predispositions. You know,
- 16:55Speaker 2: for example, if we took a blood test of Jeffrey Dahmer,
- 16:59Speaker 2: you know what, we know, what are you going to
- 17:00Speaker 2: have for breakfast?
- 17:03Speaker 1: They can we do that yet?
- 17:07Speaker 3: No, that's where we're not at that level for sure.
- 17:09Speaker 3: So that's the point is that in this we can
- 17:12Speaker 3: see that in this particular study, what they saw was
- 17:14Speaker 3: in MRIs, an area of the brain called a stratum,
- 17:19Speaker 3: was much larger than the average person. And that's one area.
- 17:23Speaker 3: There have been other studies that show other brain areas.
- 17:25Speaker 3: They're also more adapted or developed to be a psychopath
- 17:30Speaker 3: in these cases. So when you have again, when you're
- 17:34Speaker 3: scoring someone on a scale of psychopath The people that
- 17:39Speaker 3: score higher have larger areas like this. So maybe in
- 17:42Speaker 3: the future you could say you could scan someone and say, look,
- 17:45Speaker 3: this person is showing some of these traits, they have
- 17:48Speaker 3: some of the risk factors. They also have these findings
- 17:51Speaker 3: on MRI. We probably should intervene early and see what
- 17:54Speaker 3: we can do as far as you know, counseling or
- 17:56Speaker 3: other things to correct this condition.
- 17:59Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at it practically, because you know, if you're
- 18:03Speaker 2: looking at whatever insert name of disease or syndrome here
- 18:07Speaker 2: that we know exists, there isn't a or several blood
- 18:10Speaker 2: tests on the planet that would go across the board
- 18:13Speaker 2: and show you exactly what the problem is.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Do I have that right?
- 18:17Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I mean we tend to be we're
- 18:19Speaker 3: kind of a reductionist scientist and reductionist society. We want
- 18:22Speaker 3: to know. You know that you can get a test.
- 18:25Speaker 3: You know, there's certain diseases, you know, Huntington's Korea. You
- 18:29Speaker 3: get one test and it shows that you boy, you
- 18:31Speaker 3: probably have that right. There's but things like diabetes are multifactorial.
- 18:36Speaker 3: There's not one test one thing. Now, of course, we
- 18:39Speaker 3: diagnose it with one test of elevated blood sugar. But
- 18:42Speaker 3: that's the result, right, that's the end point. The things
- 18:45Speaker 3: that lead to that have multiple different factors involved.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Hm, okay, finishing up with a new antibiotic. That was
- 18:54Speaker 2: and I'm quoting. You gave me the quote hiding and
- 18:56Speaker 2: plane site. Okay, what's for decades? So what are you
- 19:01Speaker 2: talking about?
- 19:01Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is interesting because what we do. So
- 19:05Speaker 3: first of all, bacteria make antibiotics, and they do it
- 19:09Speaker 3: so that they can wipe out other bacteria and control
- 19:11Speaker 3: the environment. Right, it's it's a survival thing. So they're
- 19:14Speaker 3: resistant to it, but other bacteria may not be. So
- 19:17Speaker 3: that's a source for us to get antibiotics. We look
- 19:20Speaker 3: at bacteria and we see what antibiotics they're using, and
- 19:23Speaker 3: then we combat bacteria with those antibiotics. So what we
- 19:27Speaker 3: usually though, look at is that final antibiotic that they produce.
- 19:31Speaker 3: In this case, this was This is like making the
- 19:34Speaker 3: antibiotic is kind of like you know, baking a cake.
- 19:37Speaker 3: There's there's there's levels too as you develop the chemical
- 19:41Speaker 3: within the organism, and we always look at the final product.
- 19:45Speaker 3: But imagine if you like whip the eggs and whip
- 19:48Speaker 3: the whip the sugar together and then you stop there
- 19:52Speaker 3: and now analyzed does that kill bacteria before we get
- 19:56Speaker 3: to the actual finished product of the cake? Right, And
- 20:00Speaker 3: that's what they've done in this situation is they took
- 20:02Speaker 3: an intermediate and said, hey, wait a second, let's see
- 20:05Speaker 3: if this kills bacteria, and it kills it one hundred
- 20:07Speaker 3: times more powerfully than the final product did.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Wow.
- 20:10Speaker 3: So this is almost a whole new area of research.
- 20:14Speaker 3: We can now look at intermediates.
- 20:16Speaker 1: That that sounds terrific.
- 20:17Speaker 2: And are we talking about a bacteria that is across
- 20:21Speaker 2: the board, because I know certain bacteria or certain antibiotics
- 20:26Speaker 2: are limited to whatever disease.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Is out there, right, Yeah, there, these are bacteria that
- 20:32Speaker 3: are called Gram positive bacteria, which is a whole category
- 20:36Speaker 3: of serious bacteria that caused serious infections and do have
- 20:40Speaker 3: resistance at times to bacteria. And in this particular intermediate,
- 20:44Speaker 3: they exposed bacteria to it over over a month and
- 20:48Speaker 3: it still did not seem to produce resistance at that point.
- 20:51Speaker 3: So that's a good sign, and you know, it just
- 20:54Speaker 3: points to a potential future source for new antibiotics.
- 20:58Speaker 1: All right, Jim, thank you. It's always great news.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Actually, sometimes you bring horrible news, which I really like
- 21:04Speaker 2: We will catch you next week at A thirty with
- 21:07Speaker 2: Medical News. Take care all right, Take care all right,
- 21:10Speaker 2: Doctor Jim Keeney, you happens to be the chief medical
- 21:12Speaker 2: officers for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach
- 21:17Speaker 2: and an er certified diplomat of the World of e Ours.
- 21:22Speaker 2: And that's it. We're done, guys, that's finished. Wednesday is done.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning, it starts all over again. Right a few minutes,
- 21:30Speaker 2: it's Gary and Shannon and they're going to be talking
- 21:33Speaker 2: about with the Supreme Court is doing right now, they're
- 21:36Speaker 2: still in the middle of arguments regarding the tariffs. Boy,
- 21:38Speaker 2: this is about as long as I've ever seen a
- 21:41Speaker 2: Supreme Court case go. And tomorrow we start all over again.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Wake up, call Amy and Will Neil and I come
- 21:48Speaker 2: aboard and they're in the background lurking.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Is Amy or is Ann and Kno good bye everybody,
- 22:00Speaker 1: See you tomorrow morning.
- 22:02Speaker 2: KF I am sixty.
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