Latest / Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily / Powerless by Lauren Roberts - AKA Supernatural Hunger Games from Temu
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- 0:00Hi friends, you're listening to Lose the Plot with Carla and
- 0:02Emily. In this episode we're reading
- 0:05Powerless by Lauren Roberts. We are talking about the entire
- 0:09book, so warning, there will be spoilers.
- 0:25I'm Carla, and a thin layer of sweat has slicked my body,
- 0:30likely giving me the appearance of a glazed, sticky bun.
- 0:34I'm Emily Paden isn't like other girls.
- 0:36She's leaner than most of the slummers.
- 0:40Not the fat shaming the people who are in poverty.
- 0:42Like, I mean, you eat what you could eat.
- 0:44Not the misogyny. She's not like she's not like
- 0:50other girls. Wow, the.
- 0:52Pygmy energy is just coming out straight from the gate.
- 0:55The misogyny through this book is horrifying.
- 0:59I had such blinkers on. Oh, I don't know.
- 1:02I don't. Know.
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- 1:26Beautiful. OK trigger warnings.
- 1:31I couldn't find any on the Internet so I thought we could
- 1:34DIY them. I have two.
- 1:36And I just don't think that's enough.
- 1:39Shows how much a pension a pension.
- 1:41I paid. A pension everywhere.
- 1:44A pension? Nobody, please pay a pension.
- 1:49Our generation is so fucked when we're old.
- 1:51By the way, pension who? That doesn't exist.
- 1:56I don't even have a super fuck. Fuck.
- 2:00Wow. I'm just gonna die, sorry.
- 2:03This is why we need books to take.
- 2:05Us out of the real world. So OK, MY2 trigger warnings that
- 2:08I made-up is violence, question mark and death of a parent not.
- 2:14Depicted. Question.
- 2:16Mark we Gore. It's not that gory, no.
- 2:20And there's no sex scenes. There's no exciting sex scenes.
- 2:24I seen a little snippy of an interview and it's going to stay
- 2:28YA. So for anyone reading the
- 2:29series, there's going to be no sex scenes.
- 2:32Yeah, so if you're only here for the spice, just listen to our
- 2:35podcast, but don't read the book.
- 2:36I OK, you know what? I understand the YA necessarily,
- 2:42but if you're going to have this much tension you can't have it
- 2:46YA right? It needs to be new way.
- 2:49They just broken the ceiling of horniness.
- 2:51Yeah, is what you're saying. Yeah.
- 2:53Like you can't. It doesn't make any sense.
- 2:55No, it doesn't. The characters are stupid.
- 2:58So general stupidity, general stupid me energy pick me
- 3:02misogyny, slow burn unnecessary love triangle.
- 3:07Unnecessary as shit. It was so unnecessary that it
- 3:11didn't even really lift off. You know what?
- 3:13There is more fucking chemistry between the brothers and the
- 3:17brothers and Peyton. So emotional incest.
- 3:23Yeah, yeah. Yeah, emotional incest.
- 3:24I mean, this isn't dark romance. You'll be fine, no?
- 3:27No, so you can read it. It's fine.
- 3:29If you're literally over 15, you can read this.
- 3:31It's typical YA fantasy. There's yeah.
- 3:34Speaking of typical YA fantasy, is this not the equivalent of
- 3:38your mum saying that we have Hunger Games at home?
- 3:41You're like Mum, Mum, please, I want to, I want to go see Hunger
- 3:43Games. It's it's someone said online so
- 3:46I'm quoting some random Goodreads thing that I read this
- 3:49morning, but it was a fanfic for Hunger Games.
- 3:52Was it? Actually, yeah, pretty no, no,
- 3:55wasn't actually it's it is, it is, right.
- 3:58It's Kevin. It's Red Queen, Hunger Games, a
- 4:02teen teen, little bit of Mortal Instruments.
- 4:05Okay, yeah. Well, 4th Wing is kind of like
- 4:10an evolved version of those previous books anyway.
- 4:12Yeah, so. The difference is there's no
- 4:15originality in this one. It's a scrapbook.
- 4:18I mean, it is. It's.
- 4:19Like a quilt where it's just got bits and bobs from all these
- 4:22other books. I will give her the banter in
- 4:24the book know how matter how cringy it is, it is definitely
- 4:28original. I mean, is it bantering though?
- 4:32The dialogue is original enough. You know what though?
- 4:35It was fucking 80% dialogue. I don't want a whole book of
- 4:38conversations. It's almost like that time you
- 4:40were so pissed at the Taylor Jenkins read 7 Husbands of
- 4:43Evelyn because it was all in interview format.
- 4:46So this is like the equivalent of that to me, where it irked
- 4:49me, where it was just them having conversations.
- 4:52You know what though? My brain needed the break.
- 4:55So the really cringy dialogue, I was fine for you eating it up.
- 5:00I was eating it up, you know, I was like, you know what?
- 5:02Nothing serious. It's fine.
- 5:05Okay, so when we were looking for our quotes at the start, I
- 5:07found this other gem. This is not a goodbye, only a
- 5:11good way to say bye until I see you next bitch.
- 5:14What? You just said a whole lot of
- 5:18words about nothing. They're uneducated.
- 5:21There's. So much.
- 5:22Word salad. I think it was just like a we
- 5:25hope this gets tattered on your body, make you think.
- 5:28We're just going to throw a million things at the wall and
- 5:30hope not edit a single thing. No, no edit surely.
- 5:34This lady did not get him added up because there's no way there
- 5:37was so much fat that this could have been trimmed off of this
- 5:41book. My one problem with this book is
- 5:44the continuity was shit. Oh, it was.
- 5:46So shit, did this whole series occur?
- 5:50I don't. Like there's no time frame.
- 5:52No, there's no time frame thankfully.
- 5:54She only did it like once or twice where she jumped ahead and
- 5:58then jumped back and then jumped ahead Point of views.
- 6:00She was like impedance and then she jumped back before doing
- 6:04Kai's point of view in the same thing.
- 6:06Just do it in the same chapter. Ferrell.
- 6:10I'm the number one person who'll complain about too much back
- 6:12story. Yes.
- 6:13I'm like, don't tell me the fucking war from 3000 years ago.
- 6:17So if you just want to jump in and know enough.
- 6:19This is the book. To be fair with back story I
- 6:21always skip it. Yeah, it's boring.
- 6:23It's boring as FARC. I don't.
- 6:24Need to know everything. So in that way, if that's what
- 6:27you want, like a cruisy, you understand everything straight
- 6:30away. This is probably OK for you, and
- 6:33it's the very stereotypical Hayden is the ordinary.
- 6:38And of course there's a reason for these trials.
- 6:40They don't explain what the trials are technically for.
- 6:43I think they're from the purging.
- 6:45So they purged all the ordinaries and then to remind
- 6:49everyone. So essentially The Hunger Games,
- 6:51Yeah. I feel like there was less
- 6:53stakes. Hunger Games had so much stakes.
- 6:55Yeah. It was just like, boom, you have
- 6:58to be in it. Whereas this one was kind of
- 7:00like. They get $20,000 and I'm like,
- 7:03is $20,000 really that necessary?
- 7:05Do you just go in back to the dead and dying poverty area or
- 7:08do you get like promoted into the?
- 7:10No, you. Just get the area. $20,000 and I
- 7:13feel like that's not enough. You just get.
- 7:14Sent back home. But you can't even spend that
- 7:16money, and everyone's gonna rob you.
- 7:17Yeah. So it's just.
- 7:20And you're practically a local celeb, so everyone knows you've
- 7:22got the money they're just shaking down.
- 7:25Also, they choose who they want in the.
- 7:28Dark trials dumb. Stupid.
- 7:31They're like, oh, she saved him in an alleyway.
- 7:34So. She die.
- 7:36Also she's the most thin and frail so like why?
- 7:39She's not the most thin and she's Lena frail.
- 7:44She's Lena on other girls. She's Lena.
- 7:47She's Lena he even, I shit you not, he says.
- 7:51She's small but strong, Lena than most of the scrawny girls
- 7:54from the slums. I can feel it in the curve of
- 7:56her waist. Not the slum girls.
- 7:58Not the slum. I can feel it in the.
- 8:02Curve of my way. I'm just imagining him doing
- 8:04this. You know that really awkward
- 8:08touch that people touch your waist as they're moving behind
- 8:11you unnecessarily when they'd never do that to a grown man?
- 8:14No. Like oh just behind lol bitch
- 8:18I'm 10 meters away from you. Like, bitch, there's no need to
- 8:23touch my hoist. Anyway, let's talk about Hayden.
- 8:28What a name it's giving Mckaylin.
- 8:31It's giving that list of names. It's given Hayden Panettiere.
- 8:35Hayden McClellan. Mckayla, Lynn.
- 8:39Mckayla. Lynn Gins Pierce.
- 8:40Emily, but like EMMALEIGA, there's.
- 8:46Gonna be AY two AY McKay there somewhere, yeah.
- 8:50Emily. Oh my God.
- 8:53She's not like other girl. She's not another girl.
- 8:58She's not. No.
- 8:59She's essentially the equivalent of that TikTok content creator
- 9:03that's doing the tarot cards that's showing you your.
- 9:06Future. Because she has no powers and
- 9:10she's a psycho. Marketable skills and she's.
- 9:13She's a psychic. That's a little Sarah J Madison
- 9:16there, is it? Yeah, well, a lot she hides from
- 9:20people pretending to be a psychic to go through a circus.
- 9:28Oh, what else do we really know about her except for her coarse?
- 9:31Her hair's Gray. Because not like other girls.
- 9:33Hello. You know what, as soon as her
- 9:35hair was mentioned Gray, all I could think of was Dena Vipers.
- 9:39Same. Roxy, is that you?
- 9:41Roxy the queen of pigmies? They.
- 9:44Need to go head to head Celebrity Deathmatch Roxanne.
- 9:48And. Payton and Payton.
- 9:50She had tan skin, blue eyes. Is it tan or no?
- 9:55Eyes Finance. Is it tan or is she that
- 10:02sunburned from? Is she just tan because her hair
- 10:06is so fucking Gray? The contrast.
- 10:08Is she? Is it silver or is she that
- 10:11stressed? Her hair is very mature.
- 10:13Is she Gray? And she been.
- 10:15Buttoning this so she's not got a power because she's got a
- 10:21fucking disorder. Where she's reversing aging.
- 10:24And she's anemic as shit. She's.
- 10:27How are you going to successfully?
- 10:30Prove to. People that you're psychic, I'd
- 10:32be like, sorry, I'll. Cheat, psychic, or I'll just
- 10:35take. Me away people are.
- 10:37Just stupid. She's like, wow, you're not
- 10:39wearing your wedding ring splitting up.
- 10:43You're crying, cheat off cheat. I'm cheating, cheating.
- 10:48He didn't like. That did he?
- 10:49No. Although I liked that I could
- 10:54already tell she was going to be a picnic.
- 10:56I was like, get her. Get her Kyle.
- 11:01Is a misogyny in the book or out of the book at this point?
- 11:05It's. Coursing through my veins, we.
- 11:06Start off with learning. I love how we just I just ignore
- 11:10you every time. I'm like whatever it's.
- 11:13Obviously the best way to go. We.
- 11:16Just loot sometimes. The first little snippy about
- 11:21Peyton we here is that she lives in the trash in some place.
- 11:26She's literally a raccoon. She's a raccoon baby and the
- 11:30first like the first chapter is her talking about she doesn't
- 11:34have a roof over her head and she's like whining about having
- 11:38to look about the stars each night.
- 11:41OK, Boo Hoo bitch people. Pay for that.
- 11:43OK. To not be around light
- 11:44pollution. You're living your.
- 11:47Free life, Yeah, people are paying to go off grid at this
- 11:51point. People don't want the rise and
- 11:53grind. Just to be real for a minute, if
- 11:56this was a real person it'd be really sad for them.
- 12:00But she is not so OK. Fuck her and her whining about
- 12:03no roof. Well, what is she doing to
- 12:06accomplish a roof, really? So is she contributing to the
- 12:10problem or the solution? She could just get a job.
- 12:14Sorry I'm. Just like.
- 12:20And Next up on Emily, Carla, privileged white bitches.
- 12:23She's. Not a real person.
- 12:26Yeah, no, she's so funny. Well, she's looking for a man in
- 12:29finance. She fucking needs money because
- 12:33she's fucking eyes. So rude.
- 12:35No eyes? Why are the guards?
- 12:39Dressed in white every day. That's got to take a lot of
- 12:42nappy sand. A lot.
- 12:44Of nappy sand. That's a lot.
- 12:46They got to be looking like they're shitters themselves.
- 12:51The poop stains Joking Wear. Wear white or beige underwear.
- 12:54Any other colours? Oh, they have to G string it up.
- 12:58They'd have to seamless nude that up.
- 13:01Wait, were you the one who told me you can wear red under white
- 13:03and it doesn't go see through? Yeah, that's amazing.
- 13:06So that maybe they're wearing like red G bangers.
- 13:11I'm just imagining them getting dressed for work in their
- 13:15fucking castle tower or some shit.
- 13:17And they're like. To put on my uniform.
- 13:22It's. Just sexy under string, G string
- 13:25and you. Know what they've got to put on
- 13:27underwear like they do in 50 Shades of Grey where she does
- 13:30the underwear and the boots 1st and then?
- 13:35I'm done and then the balls are like coming out of the G string.
- 13:41They're custom made I'm. Done a.
- 13:43Little diamante on the back with their name a little bow on the
- 13:46front. White that's the most obvious
- 13:48car because she. Copied and pasted the shit out
- 13:51of The Hunger Games because don't the guards and that wear
- 13:54white? I can't remember, I thought they
- 13:56were wearing like some kind of armor, but I'm probably wrong.
- 13:59Isn't that white armor? It's been a long time even since
- 14:02I've seen the movie so let alone read the book.
- 14:05I'm telling you, I love how it's spiralling already.
- 14:09Yeah, they wear white, you know. That's one of them.
- 14:12Shitting their pants. Oh, it's giving Star Wars.
- 14:15It's giving Star Wars. Yeah, now I got job.
- 14:18I remember Hunger Games just being kind of like very grey,
- 14:22'cause you know when they're at the district at the start.
- 14:24It's because they're depressed, yeah.
- 14:25So they made the whole movie look grey.
- 14:27So that's why I couldn't remember if it's.
- 14:28The same as Twilight being blue. Which is iconic, by the way, I.
- 14:32Fucking love it. Yeah, where the fuck were we
- 14:36were doing that red G string? So clearly that was part of our
- 14:40notes. The first part is essentially
- 14:44her stealing some fabric for Adina to sew gowns.
- 14:49Because you know, who do I want to buy a gown off?
- 14:52I'm a dirty girl lives in the trash.
- 14:58She's covered and filled daily and she's moths.
- 15:01She's like, here, buy this gown that you might have to steam
- 15:05clean before you wear. If that's even going to work,
- 15:09you steam it, it's probably going to disintegrate because
- 15:11it's made out of trash. She's a working girl.
- 15:14What else is even going on in that little district?
- 15:16Area I don't know but it's called LOOT and I feel like
- 15:19that's shit. She's like a picky pocketer.
- 15:24Luton, eBay. So she so she's a what?
- 15:29Let's just make a pirate noise. Oh.
- 15:33No. She's already morally bankrupt,
- 15:37so let's stop it. Let's start.
- 15:38There. Where are we?
- 15:42Starting We don't even know where we've.
- 15:44Got nothing like I mean as a character that's as much as we
- 15:47know. Her only motivation is her dad
- 15:50was killed, yes. So that's her only personality
- 15:52trait. I'm mad because dad was killed
- 15:55and I'm going to get the killer and it's the king.
- 15:58Also, you know what's stupid about this bitch?
- 16:01Again, I'm sorry. Her dad owns a house.
- 16:04She runs away from the house. Jumping ahead, the resistance
- 16:09her father works for takes the house.
- 16:11Shoot, her and her friend didn't have to be homeless.
- 16:14Yeah, they could have just lived in our house.
- 16:16Exactly. Who wrote the will?
- 16:18Who wrote? The will it's.
- 16:20Actually her dad's own fault that she's homeless because he
- 16:22didn't put his paperwork. In order she could have had a
- 16:25bed, a shower and. Vigorously.
- 16:28Not you're telling me that her dad taught her we're.
- 16:32Already at you're telling me? I have so many left, more to go.
- 16:36You're telling me that he taught her how to fight, how to fucking
- 16:41shoot arrows, throw some swords, but didn't set up her having a
- 16:48home? Trust button.
- 16:50Finals. Well, literally, though.
- 16:55He didn't teach her how to do her taxes.
- 16:57He didn't teach her how to get a superannuation account.
- 17:00No. Does she know how to cook at
- 17:01this point? Not even sure.
- 17:03Doesn't even seem like he's a character because we heard
- 17:06nothing about him. No, of course we don't know what
- 17:08her mums up to doing alive, dead.
- 17:11You don't even write a piano. Fuck her mom, Fuck her mom.
- 17:14You don't even exist if you're female.
- 17:16You do not exist on a fantasy book unless you have a dead mum.
- 17:21No, you only exist in a fantasy book if you're the 17 year old
- 17:25main female character who's not like a main.
- 17:28White girl character? Yeah, let's be.
- 17:30Honest, that's it. Kai's mum only talked about
- 17:33balls and dresses. That was it.
- 17:35Chit's mum was dead, which I feel like is just gonna allude
- 17:39to her and kitten paid and being related somehow.
- 17:43OK, well, OK, hear me out. Theory.
- 17:48Theory. Interesting.
- 17:48Hear me out. The God forgot his name, the
- 17:51ringer one. He keeps calling her Princess.
- 17:53And usually in fantasy books they'll have a nickname and then
- 17:56you're like, oh, it's been in there all along, right?
- 17:59So I feel like she's going to be like a long lost Princess and
- 18:03it's going to be her and Kit related.
- 18:06We learned about the trials, but not enough, not really enough to
- 18:09know what's going on. We.
- 18:10Just know violence, that's it. There was more build up about
- 18:14the stupid ball and fuck me look OK, so I didn't have a complete
- 18:19aneurysm because I knew so early on it was coming, but did I
- 18:23fucking think that there'd be dancing in a ball environment
- 18:26the second time round? This book like just restarted at
- 18:29some point and then did it again.
- 18:31OK, so if you're new here, a thing to know about Carla is she
- 18:35hates skulls and she hates balls.
- 18:37I hate it. And there was three in this.
- 18:39Three. I thought one was just a huge
- 18:41continuation and then there was like a reset of the same shit.
- 18:44I was like, why are we back here?
- 18:45No, it's just they had a ball before the trials, which makes
- 18:49sense, but then they had one before every single.
- 18:53Challenge. Do we even call it a challenge?
- 18:55They weren't even. It didn't even explain what they
- 18:58were fucking doing. It was Loki just them doing it
- 19:02was them camping and then being forced to fight.
- 19:05But I didn't understand. Like, I understand they were
- 19:06knocked out to get into the camping ground or whatever.
- 19:09Yeah. Why did they all wake up
- 19:10starvacious? At least last a day.
- 19:13They woke up needing a Zingerberger combo.
- 19:15You've got nothing. I think it might have been the
- 19:17drugs. They were all like I really
- 19:20could use a full 3 course meal right now.
- 19:22Every time I read a fantasy book and they're like, I really need
- 19:26to eat, they're locked in a thing and it's like 5 minutes
- 19:28into whatever they're doing. I'm like God, I drank a coffee
- 19:32this morning and it could last another 12 hours.
- 19:33Literally. So you know how they chose her
- 19:36to be part of. Wait, do you want to talk about
- 19:38the bit where she rescues him or not really?
- 19:40The only thing I have about her rescuing him is 1.
- 19:44The banter was cringe. It's fine, but can you tell me
- 19:49why their powers are called Brawler, Crawler, and Blazer?
- 19:54You have the whole fucking Internet to look up different
- 19:57names. You have your whole world that
- 20:00you're building and you think they come up with Blazer for a
- 20:03guy that shoots fire, Crawler for one that can crawl on the
- 20:06walls, and Brawler for one that can is strong.
- 20:10This is your world, build it better.
- 20:12It's giving Pokémon. Honestly.
- 20:15Like, I mean, he's 65 finance blue eyes and he needs a little
- 20:19girl to rescue him without powers.
- 20:21And it was like. A silencer.
- 20:25No. Were you silent or were you
- 20:27silenced? He was.
- 20:28Silenced about time. That boy speaks too much.
- 20:32How does? He not realize that he can't
- 20:34suck up her powers because she ain't got none.
- 20:36Wouldn't he be the first to know?
- 20:37Yeah, honestly, he's like, oh, I just, I'm having a bit of an off
- 20:40day. He did from one second.
- 20:45In all day and it takes one pretty girl.
- 20:48She's just pretending he's not smelling that ordinary.
- 20:51Like, you know, she smells like a fucking raccoon's.
- 20:54Eyes that basic bitch energy in the.
- 20:56End smell it from 10 kilometers away and he gets up to her and
- 20:59he's like he knows she's an ordinary, but he's like I could.
- 21:03Tap that and he's like, yeah. I could stick it in.
- 21:05He's like fucking stunning curvy bitch.
- 21:10So straight away, even from the initial interaction together
- 21:15every five seconds, was his lip curled up and that smirk and the
- 21:20dimples and I'm like, why am all I hearing about are little micro
- 21:23expressions on both of their faces over and over and over and
- 21:26over. And over who do you think?
- 21:28Smirking, guess what was? Worse.
- 21:32Smirking or smirk, both dimple. Nah, I didn't even love some
- 21:36dimple eyes. Eyes were mentioned 763.
- 21:42Times and Smirk was 55. Yeah, was there even dimples in
- 21:47this book? Yeah.
- 21:49Look up dimples. I'm doing it making my way down
- 21:5432 times. Dimples, yeah.
- 21:57Double Jim, OH. My God, what about Darling?
- 21:59Because that spiralled me back to Hooked. 41.
- 22:05It was a lot of Darling and it wasn't.
- 22:06He wasn't pulling it off. No.
- 22:09Even in the audio book, actually.
- 22:11Pulling it off actually, I'll give whoever excited to listen
- 22:14to some bits in the audio book. I'll give whoever did his voice
- 22:18a 10 out of 10 because it is the hottest voice I've ever heard in
- 22:22my life. Hmm.
- 22:24He just nailed it. He even was like there was a bit
- 22:26where he was grovelling at the end and I was like, who knew I.
- 22:31OK. I'm a deprived woman, you know,
- 22:36I have some voices really throw you out.
- 22:37Yeah. This one really suited the
- 22:39character. It was like, on the nose.
- 22:42Yeah. You know how sometimes it sounds
- 22:43like an ancient person? Like, no offense, voice actors?
- 22:45Well, they've got some weird Texas accent and you're like,
- 22:48where the fuck did this come from?
- 22:49Yeah. Wouldn't you, though?
- 22:52OK, so she got picked. So she's the ultimate pick Me.
- 22:54She got picked. Yeah, she whinges from the get
- 22:57go, but wouldn't you be so happy you were in a fucking room?
- 23:01You said you were sleeping on the cobblestone streets for five
- 23:04whole years. You have a library, you have a
- 23:06bed, you have plumbing, you have a bathroom.
- 23:09Yeah, you're shitting in pipes like where are.
- 23:13They shitting? Elsewhere in the dirt.
- 23:16Wow, I didn't even think about that till now.
- 23:19And she was so wingy at the start already, like my freedom.
- 23:23How dare, because they always have to act trapped.
- 23:26Because if there's anything we know about any fantasy book is
- 23:28the female character at some point gets captured and trapped.
- 23:31Oh yeah. So they had to play out that.
- 23:33Trope We love a good kidnapping. It was so unnecessary.
- 23:37Why did they? Even put that in there, the word
- 23:39count was out of control for what we got for the content.
- 23:44It was what, 25% content, 75% repeat or filler?
- 23:49In the first couple of chapters you really got to snag me in,
- 23:53otherwise I don't want to be there.
- 23:54I just feel like generally not enough was happening.
- 23:57No. Because it was everything that
- 23:59you could see happening. Yes.
- 24:01And it was so slow. And like you said, there was no
- 24:03good consistency. And then at the ball, they're
- 24:06acting so casual and then they casually bring up that the
- 24:09trials are tomorrow. They never mentioned her being
- 24:12nervous. They never mentioned her being
- 24:14like, holy shit, it's tomorrow. They're just like someone
- 24:16casually brought it up in conversation.
- 24:18At the ball. She was more worried about what
- 24:20fucking dress she was going to wear.
- 24:22And I was trying to be a sassy bitch and predict what dress she
- 24:25was going to wear. So all the women wear green and
- 24:27all the men wear black suits. And I'm like, of course she's
- 24:30going to waltz in with a red dress.
- 24:33I thought it was great. I was like, that would wash her
- 24:35out so bad. I was just picturing full
- 24:38sequence Camila Cabello at the Met Gala.
- 24:43But of course she has to be different, of course.
- 24:45Why doesn't she just? Tattoo.
- 24:47I'm an ordinary on her forehead. Be easier.
- 24:50I just also there's a lot of things that didn't make sense in
- 24:53this book. So the 1st dinner after they're
- 24:57locked in this room for hours, they go have dinner in the
- 25:02throne room. You're telling me this big ass
- 25:05castle for the king doesn't have a dining hall?
- 25:11It only has the throne room, which is probably nowhere near
- 25:14the kitchen. And what is a throne room like?
- 25:17Isn't that where people come up and talk to the king?
- 25:19Yeah, with the big. Throne.
- 25:21So where's the tables at? Like?
- 25:23So you're thinking Game of Thrones?
- 25:25Big US throne in the background. It's a multi.
- 25:27Purpose room, OK. I just wasn't like you telling
- 25:30me they're setting up a dining room every night.
- 25:33Apparently. At this point, while we're at
- 25:36the first tonight, you're telling me I'm supposed to fall
- 25:39in love with the main male character, but he's a piece of.
- 25:42Shit. Dead ass a piece of shit.
- 25:44I was supposed to fall in love with him because he let a little
- 25:47girl go and walk off into the desert with her family to die,
- 25:52obviously. And then I'm supposed to bare
- 25:55minimum, the bare minimum. I'm like he, he didn't kill her,
- 25:59but he let. Stab her in the eyeball.
- 26:00But he let her go off her way to starve to death.
- 26:03Yeah, and then he bullies her about being homeless.
- 26:07Like us, but. She's not fucking real though.
- 26:11It's the nagging for me. It's it's horrible.
- 26:14It's all the smirking and dimples that's supposed to make
- 26:17up. For it I'm like what a
- 26:18privileged piece of shit. And then he's like, you don't
- 26:22know how to dance, you poor cunt.
- 26:24Pretty much. And he's just like, I have to
- 26:27teach you. He is the Queen from the
- 26:30Princess Diaries, teaching the girl how to be Princess.
- 26:33No. He's like sipping tea like your.
- 26:39Footwork made. Overtime.
- 26:42You crusty bitch. I just don't understand.
- 26:46I was like, you've not really given me.
- 26:48He's not giving. He's not giving.
- 26:50What is he giving? Because his personality is just
- 26:53accepting that he's supposed to be this security guard for the
- 26:57king, because he's not really going to be the next king, so
- 27:00he's going to be like the bridesmaid of security guards.
- 27:04Basically, essentially and. He doesn't ever question it, no.
- 27:08So he's just a Trump supporter at this point.
- 27:15So. He has just.
- 27:16No reflective qualities like he just he what?
- 27:20He's just going to accept that, never question it.
- 27:23It's probably not even his dad. At this point just kill your dad
- 27:27also. Why?
- 27:30Talking about a daddy king who doesn't have a name, I don't
- 27:33think anyway. Not that I remember he's.
- 27:36Just the king. The King.
- 27:39How? How is he okay?
- 27:43Show spoiler alert for the end and we'll actually talk about it
- 27:46when we get to the end. But how do you even give fuck
- 27:49that she killed your dad when he abused the shit out of you?
- 27:54Yeah. I'd be, I'd be like, kill him
- 27:56again. It's like your daddy's Osama bin
- 27:58Laden and you're. Just.
- 28:00Sitting there like I have to like him like.
- 28:03Why? Nobody's making you.
- 28:05It's like you killed my daddy and it's like, okay, yeah, but
- 28:09that's what a. Weird life.
- 28:11What a weird. That's her whole life though.
- 28:13That's the only thing that connects them.
- 28:15They're both like you kill my. Daddy.
- 28:18I'm like what a win for you mate, he's a piece of shit.
- 28:22The fact that he, like, he literally chapped before, like
- 28:26he broke my hand so I'd have to fix my own bones and you're sad
- 28:31that he's dead. It makes bond to someone else.
- 28:35He doesn't have any thinking process.
- 28:38He's like, this is just my life, my brother's going to take the
- 28:42throne. I'm just the fucking full guy.
- 28:45Man behaviour, it is such one tab open in their brain
- 28:49behaviour. If he had to, he'd realize how
- 28:53much of an opportunity. This is but think about it, they
- 28:55all recite the stupid creed thing.
- 28:58They're all brainwashed. So it all comes back to cults.
- 29:02Oh my God, go to therapy. It doesn't matter to them 'cause
- 29:05they're at least privileged in the society.
- 29:07Oh my God, the amount of beans these people eat.
- 29:09Everyone be fun. They should be.
- 29:13Shitting all the time. Run through.
- 29:17I don't think that's what that means The.
- 29:19Whole. Throne room is just.
- 29:24That's why they don't care that she's so stinky, because
- 29:27everyone's parting all the time. She is 'cause there's no way
- 29:30you're coming out of the loot with shaved arms.
- 29:33Hair was from the but she. Did say she scrubbed herself
- 29:36down to the tee like four times when she got her the filth.
- 29:41But he met her when she was just out on the streets.
- 29:44He was like the stinky girl. 'S the one for me.
- 29:46She's got like matted up hair. She's like.
- 29:51She's a crusty white dog matted up.
- 29:54Can I just say that as you said before, fucking Kit and Kai had
- 29:58more chemistry, like essentially with each other?
- 30:01And then I found out they were brothers and I was like, this is
- 30:03Creedence all over again. Sorry, did.
- 30:05I I. Literally was like next thing I
- 30:07was going to. Say I was like, this is the
- 30:08wanking in the lounge room together all over.
- 30:11Again, it's giving circle jerk. It's giving circle jerk.
- 30:14Especially when she was around. Oh, it's like it ramped up 100
- 30:18times. Also what the fuck is with kit?
- 30:21He's so. Boring.
- 30:23He makes Kai look interesting. Kai obviously is very openly in
- 30:28love with Hayden very easily. Easily.
- 30:31Anything he says to that girl is pure obsession.
- 30:35Kai tells Kit about how much he likes the girl from the slums
- 30:39and how much it's like blown his mind and that he wishes to meet
- 30:43her again. Then Kit finds her coming into
- 30:46the competition and he's like, you know what?
- 30:49I'm a go after her. OK, so Kit put the most boring
- 30:52moves on to her and then she just agrees, Yeah.
- 30:54But I don't think she was interested in Kit.
- 30:57I think she was just like, well, I got nowhere else to be.
- 31:00No, but she got a bit horny about the idea of getting close
- 31:03to the king in that way of looking like the future King's
- 31:06date. So I think that was a bit of her
- 31:08own circle drug. Honestly.
- 31:14Props to Payton, because if you're gonna.
- 31:16You might as well. I think she, Loki, wanted to
- 31:19make Kai jealous. I think that's the only reason
- 31:22because she actually had no chemistry with Kit.
- 31:24She didn't boring love triangle she.
- 31:26Didn't give a fuck about him, I don't think.
- 31:28No, no, she was. And honestly, she just started
- 31:31egging him on a bit to get information.
- 31:33Yeah. And that was it.
- 31:35Which is hilarious because OK, Fast forward to the end.
- 31:38The king. So the dad guy is being super
- 31:40critical at Kai. What about Kit?
- 31:42He's the one who told her more. If he was.
- 31:45Waiting this whole long con game to reveal that he knew that she
- 31:50was an ordinary all along. Why wasn't he ever wanting Kit?
- 31:53Why wasn't he ever babysitting Kit?
- 31:56But the second Kai and Peyton were sitting somewhere alone, a
- 31:58guard awkwardly come up to them and like pokes his shoulder when
- 32:01they're about to make. Out I.
- 32:03Feel like. He.
- 32:05Was trying to just crush Kai's spirit, like set him up to fall
- 32:08in love and then power trip and take it away.
- 32:11Right, so it's all part of the dad's torture.
- 32:13I reckon be all part of it. I just think he's dumb.
- 32:16They're. Awkward.
- 32:17They're none of these I've ever. Met none of these character
- 32:20motivations make sense. None.
- 32:22She agreed to go into the trials because who cares?
- 32:25She's got nothing to lose, and she could help her friend get a
- 32:28promotion to get paid to. Make her They don't have a
- 32:30choice. Yeah, but she kind of just
- 32:33accepted it. She wasn't really nervous about
- 32:35it. She's just like, well, I have a
- 32:38silver dagger. So sorry, bitch, you have no
- 32:41powers. You've got people gone around
- 32:44fucking able to do essentially anything.
- 32:47There's X-Men in this hoe and you're sitting there like my
- 32:52little daggers Fine, because it's accessorized and it matches
- 32:55my. Honestly, it worked.
- 32:57So the confidence though the. Confidence was high.
- 33:01Fake it till you make it go. So they have like, their first
- 33:04training before all of the shit because you know where I'm
- 33:07going. One, the misogyny immediately
- 33:11with Blair, I hated it. I hated it.
- 33:14Yeah, I feel like you can hate another female character, right?
- 33:20But every two seconds it was like she's just trying to touch
- 33:23the king and the Princess. But she's so are you?
- 33:26Exactly every now and then. Sandwich between them.
- 33:29Every single time Blair came up, it was like, oh, she's just got
- 33:33pretty much her tits out for the Princess and I'm like, she
- 33:36doesn't though. But you know what's funny?
- 33:39Why are you criticizing someone for doing something on a lesser
- 33:42scale than what you're already doing?
- 33:43Oh. My God.
- 33:45You're practically bed hopping at this point, but you're.
- 33:47Pissed at Blair. For just rocking up somewhere.
- 33:49And I'm like, she's probably known them her whole life, so it
- 33:52makes sense. But I was like at that point,
- 33:55that's when Peyton, I was like, she's not my favorite person.
- 33:59I hate the misogyny. She gets hit by a dagger, I'm
- 34:03pretty sure by Blair and Kai's like trying to be really sweet
- 34:06and like get the blood out of her hair.
- 34:08And I'm like, fuck up, don't fuck up.
- 34:12Like fuck off. Fuck up and fuck.
- 34:14Off he's like braiding her hair and.
- 34:17Fuck off, he's. Braiding her hair, the.
- 34:19Hair braiding sent me. Icky.
- 34:22Sent me. Last night you were telling her
- 34:25how privileged you were and how horrified that you found out she
- 34:29lives on the street, but now you're braiding her hair.
- 34:32Fuck. Off You know what was really
- 34:34funny when there was straight up going into that first child, I
- 34:38had a like a little giggle to myself and I'm like, wouldn't it
- 34:40just be amazing if Kai died straight?
- 34:42Away. He's like.
- 34:42Fucking hate him that much. He's just the.
- 34:45Cardboard cut out insert of what the male character has to be.
- 34:49Yes, but he didn't bring anything new to that role.
- 34:52No. You know how sometimes you get a
- 34:53male character that for whatever reason, it brings something to
- 34:57it enough that people go like, yes, he's a bad boy or like,
- 35:01yes, he's a book boyfriend? What is Kai even giving?
- 35:04I don't even really know what he looks like.
- 35:06I think he's dark haired a smoky eyes.
- 35:10Of course, he's probably called Grey.
- 35:12Grey eyes. That's five.
- 35:15Dark hair. Dark hair.
- 35:17It would. Just be a copy and paste of
- 35:19every male dark haired character.
- 35:22It's essentially probably Rhys Zaden.
- 35:25It's all the same. The other guy with the every
- 35:29other guy. The gun to the pussy.
- 35:33Yeah, Isn't that Satan? No.
- 35:35Zaddy, zaddy. God, there's got.
- 35:38To be something else out there there isn't.
- 35:40Please somebody save us drowning in a sea of dark head main male
- 35:45characters. Me in a room with all these
- 35:46characters, I can tell the difference.
- 35:48I'd be like her. They're all the same.
- 35:55Of course, when she's wearing the silver dress in this ball,
- 35:57everyone's pissy. Kit asked her to dance and then
- 36:01Kai got pissy, so he danced with millions of other women and I'm
- 36:04like, yeah, because that fucking fixes everything.
- 36:07I would do the same thing because I'm a petty queen, but
- 36:09can we talk about how much dance training they did beforehand?
- 36:13And she's like, we feel like a puzzle piece.
- 36:16Our body parts so close the guitar I just.
- 36:19Can't get over. Proximity.
- 36:21The fact that she probably looked like a fucking awkward
- 36:23bitch. Jack and cheese a mouth.
- 36:25Breather she gives mouth, 'cause it's giving, it's giving mouth.
- 36:31Mangly, approximately too much. It's just fully mong and no ones
- 36:39telling her and they're like OK Peyton.
- 36:42You can go into the trials. Just accept her dowry of a
- 36:50donkey to go into the trials. Oh God.
- 36:53There's. So many times I got the eek with
- 36:56her character right before the ball.
- 36:58They're sparring for the first time as well and she kicks.
- 37:03I don't know if you know what I'm going to talk about.
- 37:04She kicks her leg out and he swiftly jumps over it.
- 37:08And all I pictured him was doing was galloping like a.
- 37:11Little. Horse girl over her leg and
- 37:15after that I was like, this man is not the one for me.
- 37:18I just, I just want to see her twerk it just.
- 37:22Because you know, she's doing. The the Tina Belcher like.
- 37:26You know that she's just. Wait wait, I feel like her
- 37:29joints are achy. Like I feel like this.
- 37:31Squeaky. She's a mouth breather.
- 37:34We can't really blame her for the lack of nutrition.
- 37:38Holy shit dude. Right before that first ball
- 37:42where she goes ham and they blow it up for the resistance.
- 37:45See where your life ended. Yeah, they do class box
- 37:49interviews. Tell me why They went up to the
- 37:54glass box, went down into a room that they had to jump into, and
- 37:58then when they they had to wait down there and then they did the
- 38:01interviews and had to jump back up into that hole.
- 38:04Why can they afford to build a glass box arena and no fucking
- 38:09stairs? But also who's watching this?
- 38:12Because when I imagine let's say loot, no one has ATV set.
- 38:16Well, it's just, you know, Hunger Games style where it's
- 38:19all the rich. People, but they don't explain
- 38:21that I don't understand what world really is.
- 38:24It's all the. Powerless people because they're
- 38:26constantly audiences but also glass box not that color will
- 38:31understand this, but Red Queen, they have this it's been a wild
- 38:35powerful show and Mare lands on a glass arena and she breaks the
- 38:40glass arena so. What an entrance.
- 38:43What an entrance I. I'm fuzzy on that though, but.
- 38:46You think that may or may not have?
- 38:48Happened May. I'm pretty sure she does.
- 38:50And that's how she finds her powers.
- 38:51But why is the host of this fucking interview just Cesar
- 38:56Flickerman? Yeah, Lauren.
- 38:57Her name is Teal. I mean, her hair is teal and her
- 39:00name is like Teal and. Tila and because I was like this
- 39:04is just sees a Flickerman. I was just picturing the Stanley
- 39:07Tucci. Well, isn't.
- 39:08His head teal as well. That's.
- 39:11Why? I'm like, you could have changed
- 39:14it a bit. Come on.
- 39:14But explain why we're recording it.
- 39:17Explain who's being entertained by it.
- 39:19Explain how it's being broadcast.
- 39:21I don't know if we have WI. Fi it was just a big audience.
- 39:24Like it's a big arena with powerful people in it.
- 39:27If you're gonna copy and paste the hungry, don't copy and paste
- 39:31the host. It was like, welcome to the 6th
- 39:34ever purging trials. And I'm like, OK, so you just
- 39:37watch The Hunger Games and just wrote it down, literally,
- 39:40literally. You know what though?
- 39:41I feel like when you have a series like The Hunger Games, it
- 39:44has so many fans. If you even get a small group of
- 39:48those fans, you have a big fan base.
- 39:50So if someone says Oh my God, go be powerless, it's just like
- 39:54Hunger Games accepts more angsty or whatever.
- 39:56You're still capturing 2% of the whole Hunger Games audience.
- 40:00You're still going to make a fucking income.
- 40:02Yeah, to be fair though. But people are pissy, as they
- 40:06should be because it's so copy and paste.
- 40:08As they should be. You want the feels of The Hunger
- 40:11Games. The Hunger Games had so many
- 40:12more feels, so many more plot points, back stories.
- 40:16This had no back story. The back story it did have,
- 40:19which was about the dad dying was not fleshed out at all.
- 40:23No. Yet this word count was insane.
- 40:27So why have you got so much word count and no actual back story?
- 40:32Like what's the B story? Because the A story was the love
- 40:35story. If anything the trials was the B
- 40:38story because this was. And.
- 40:40Like you can't say this is character focus because the
- 40:43characters don't develop. You can't give me someone who's
- 40:46the same at the start and the end and call it a character
- 40:50focused story. I feel like it's just maybe the
- 40:53experience of the author they get locked it while Kai chops
- 40:57are over the shoulder into this little panic room thing.
- 41:00But how stupid is it to put all these people into a stone room
- 41:06with a guy with fire powers that is stressed out because she's
- 41:10even sitting in there. She's like oh it's really hot
- 41:12I'm uncomfortable. Meanwhile fucking kids pacing
- 41:15back and forth. Cooking.
- 41:16Everyone he's cooking. Everyone kick him out.
- 41:19They're. Just going to turn into their
- 41:21own little cremation station. Oh.
- 41:22Just you're worried about the people outside, worry about
- 41:25everyone inside. I just want to know if this is a
- 41:29trial for the most powerful people.
- 41:32Why? Why?
- 41:34Blair and Sadie makes sense. Kai makes sense.
- 41:38Jasper does not make sense. You're putting a 15 year old boy
- 41:44that can barely fight stand on his two feet alone.
- 41:47Essentially he can just blink from one section to the other
- 41:50and that's all he can do? Yeah, and you're putting him,
- 41:54are you? What?
- 41:55What are you trialling at this point?
- 41:56I feel like the king was just trying to assassinate him and
- 42:00then the people that were from the other places, there was one
- 42:04that just waned. Invisible.
- 42:05She had no skills. Why are they acting like it's
- 42:07this big trial where they find the most skilled and powerful
- 42:10wizard or something? Like this it's just The Hunger
- 42:13Games where they Chuck them in the forest and to live and they
- 42:15have to find their own food and then kill off.
- 42:18That's so boring. It is so boring.
- 42:20And it's kind of like the whole point of The Hunger Games and
- 42:22what made it so. So good is that there's.
- 42:24Only one winner, Yes, and that's the whole fucking point.
- 42:28Whereas with the trials it's just.
- 42:31Only nearly no one cares. We don't know the rules.
- 42:33You don't necessarily have to die to win, it's just whoever
- 42:36wins. But you could die on the
- 42:38process. But it's so low stakes.
- 42:41It's like, bro, I wish I could just go out in the wilderness
- 42:44for a little bit. Yeah, be vacation for me.
- 42:47Oh, just absolutely. I would do so badly.
- 42:51Oh, I hate, I hate the sun. What do you mean?
- 42:53But if we could chat invisible, right, we could just survive by
- 42:57like, oh, it's like someone's coming.
- 42:59We hear someone, we just go. We were just kicking by the
- 43:03fire, like having s'mores. Way OK here's my theory with us
- 43:08two in the forest I feel like. We're dumb.
- 43:10Enough that we'd be laughing the whole time, but we're smart
- 43:14enough we could outsmart people. But also I don't want to be in a
- 43:18forest with a man. So.
- 43:21I'm like, it's just a circle. Because men are stupid as well.
- 43:25The men in these books are. Yeah, I feel like we're pretty
- 43:27dumb though. Like elements we'd be like, I
- 43:30feel like, what temperature does fire burn?
- 43:34I'm like, Oh no, I don't. Have the air fryer instructions.
- 43:37I've stood in the fire once. It was not a fun time.
- 43:39Yeah, we'll see. Well.
- 43:41Accident prone as well Accident prone.
- 43:44Look, I've got no balance, struggling just standing up.
- 43:48Honestly I got no will to live half the time.
- 43:51Are we like counselling you to not fucking kill?
- 43:55Yourself. I won't kill myself, but I'll
- 43:57joke about it. But then what if we get so
- 44:01brainwashed by each other we just end up fucking bananas?
- 44:06I feel like that would happen. I think you would just get over
- 44:10me the amount of times in a day. I'm like, I'm just so suicidal
- 44:14about it that you would have enough.
- 44:16You'd be like fine. Yeah, fucking dies.
- 44:19I don't deal with you anymore. Oh.
- 44:23God, I know I'm the problem, but it's fine.
- 44:26No, I'm equally the problem, I'm just a different kind of
- 44:28problem. Like I just talk in memes and
- 44:30I'll be talking into talks the whole time and if there's no new
- 44:33TikTok torch, you'll just be hearing 65 blue eyes for like
- 44:37months on end. I do it to me first.
- 44:40It's going to be a murder suicide.
- 44:42I honestly think I just get delirious and laugh so it's
- 44:45fine. It's fine.
- 44:46Our problem is both of us have fucking anxiety and we've.
- 44:49Got a shit in the forest bro. I'm not shitting until I'm home.
- 44:53Are you kidding? You can die from Constipation,
- 44:56eat rocks, and then it'll. Plug up my bowels.
- 44:59I don't. Have.
- 45:00The shit until we're out of here.
- 45:02That's impacted bowls and that would kill you so you'd have to
- 45:05shit. Yeah, so we're all dying anyway.
- 45:08Exactly. It's a way to go.
- 45:09So we're not even dying by competition or lack of
- 45:13nutrition. We're dying by impacted bells.
- 45:15Don't. Worry about it, we'll be
- 45:16sleeping on cobblestone but we'll have like a gold rimmed
- 45:19toilet at the end of it. With a whole cubicle and like a
- 45:23roof. We're running to the end of the
- 45:25forest where they make us all meet and they're like, you have
- 45:27to fight and we're like, no, we have to shit guys.
- 45:30By. Guys, so you don't understand, I
- 45:33need to be taken back to the castle, a set of rooms on the
- 45:38opposite spelled I need, AI need.
- 45:44A fork in me, I'm done. Or preferably a vacuum tube.
- 45:49I'm like up the I. Want to be in one part of castle
- 45:53where there's no one there to expel my vows peacefully.
- 45:57Five to the medieval times, whether you come into the
- 46:00communal bathroom and it's just a through that goes all the way
- 46:02around, like in a semi circle and you just pull, you just drop
- 46:05your ducks and do a shit. Next to the next.
- 46:08Person and then you use the communal brush like a full like
- 46:14a full. Bristle brush on your Boo hole.
- 46:16How is that getting? The boot now I would not last in
- 46:20another time. We just wouldn't go to the
- 46:23toilet together. I'd have to go there with
- 46:25strangers, but I freak out when I go to a public toilet and I
- 46:28feel like the door isn't going all the way up to the top
- 46:31millimeter of the fucking ceiling.
- 46:33Why is with cubicles and toilets, it's not a room?
- 46:37It's like having a piece of paper next to.
- 46:38Like we're literally all just sitting next to each other.
- 46:42It's horrible. My worst nightmare that's on
- 46:45repeat is me going to a toilet where the toilet door is like a
- 46:49piece of A4 paper big. So you're essentially nothings
- 46:52covered. You see all the people coming.
- 46:54It's like how it was when you go to like daycare.
- 46:56Did you see? That like unrelated but related
- 46:59to what we're talking about in Cotton On and places like that,
- 47:01they have like a glass things like a.
- 47:04Viewing window. Yeah, it's.
- 47:06Room I'm like no. But then.
- 47:10But then what if another customer is just casually
- 47:12looking in and not the staff? There's one thing I learnt by
- 47:16going on holiday it's I've never had my tits out more in my life.
- 47:19Australia is so conservative. I've got a massage tits out.
- 47:23I hired a dress tits out. Two other women in the same
- 47:27cubicle helping me get dressed. Tits out, like just tits out,
- 47:30tits out, tits out. Never had my boobs out, never
- 47:33think about my boobs in my life. Honestly.
- 47:37Honestly when you have BBS you just naked in front of people
- 47:41all the time. That's what I mean.
- 47:42I don't have that experience. When I, the midwife was just
- 47:45walking in while I was in the shower naked, in and out, in and
- 47:48out. And I was just sitting there on
- 47:50the ground and she's like, oh, you can.
- 47:52I'm like, you're fine. They just walk in and out.
- 47:54They don't fuck. Nothing humbles you like having
- 47:56children. The way she just grabbed my boob
- 47:59and put it in my kids mouth. The way that I can't even go
- 48:01grocery shopping without putting a layer of makeup on, let alone
- 48:05what's going on downstairs. Like I just, are you kidding?
- 48:08I have to have a fresh Brazilian just to give birth?
- 48:10Just like you can't even I can't give birth.
- 48:14I just. I can't.
- 48:15I've got a my way and. Also.
- 48:18The way I could have shit myself on the show and I didn't.
- 48:22I don't know. Gold Star.
- 48:23Gold Star for me. Any who back to the forest.
- 48:28Back to us being in the forest. You know what though?
- 48:31Explain to me why Payton essentially she was fake dating
- 48:35Kit, Yes, which fuck off in the 1st place.
- 48:38Yeah. Why was she so fine with that?
- 48:41But she was so conflicted about Kai.
- 48:44Also a kit and Kai again with the fake dating, if you know
- 48:49your fucking brother is already obsessed with this random woman
- 48:53that robbed him, why are you asking her as a date to the
- 48:56ball? And two, Kai, why aren't you
- 48:59asking her as a date to the ball?
- 49:01Why did you let your brother go ask?
- 49:02Her because he's an idiot. Because they're both fucking
- 49:04idiots. Because he asked her first.
- 49:06It's just dumb because he didn't want to actually go after her
- 49:10and admit. Because remember, even at the
- 49:11very end, which is always the case for the main male
- 49:14character, it's them versus their feelings, and they're
- 49:17always grappling with, why do I like her?
- 49:20How dare I have feelings? I thought I was gay like why are
- 49:24they so grappling with. I trust she was in love with my.
- 49:26Brother, I thought. It.
- 49:28Was me and kiss we'd be fucking what's what is so.
- 49:34Wrong. I don't know about having human
- 49:37feelings. About being attracted to a
- 49:38female. If femininity is a curse, my
- 49:41friend. They literally jizz.
- 49:44When they say each other's names, because one time he said
- 49:49Peyton instead of darling and stuff or whatever and she's just
- 49:52like he was like, say my name and she's like your full name,
- 49:57Malachi and all. The way I was trying to work out
- 50:01what Kit's full name would be Kit Kat Malachit.
- 50:07Melatonin Katrina. Go to sleep.
- 50:10It's Katrina, not Hurricane Katrina.
- 50:14Stop. No, Do something.
- 50:16Kit, right? Wanking Kit.
- 50:19Cortana. Wanking kit Kitty.
- 50:22Katniss Evidi. The best one this cotton cut
- 50:32kitten paste. Kitten is 70.
- 50:34Kitten. Paste.
- 50:36Which is essentially. What she did to this whole book?
- 50:39Malachi. Out of nowhere.
- 50:42You can't hit us with the Malachi no out.
- 50:44Of nowhere Tell me you've watched Sharpro, Kai and Just.
- 50:47Yes. Swooned over Malachi.
- 50:52OK, so they're in. They're in the forest somehow
- 50:57Payton or pay which nearly killed me every time I heard
- 51:01seen it pay is not the name tell me why she found a bow and arrow
- 51:07immediately in the mix of that how convenient that she found a
- 51:15bow and arrow and she just. Is great at.
- 51:18And she's great at archery, like she's been using it to survive
- 51:22her whole life. Why set up her character weapon
- 51:25being the dagger and she's just going to pull a Katniss Everdeen
- 51:29anyway? Yeah, multi talented queen.
- 51:32She is a multi but she gets illusioned by I actually can't
- 51:37remember. It's Ace.
- 51:39She's getting illusioned and somehow Kit is drowning and she
- 51:42just runs. Breaks her legs practically
- 51:45trying to jump into the water because what idiot doesn't
- 51:47slowly walk into? Order, yeah.
- 51:51But also, why would the two be king?
- 51:53Yeah, that's not allowed to leave the castle, be out in the
- 51:57forest. That's why I was confused about
- 51:59him being involved. I thought it was.
- 52:00Like no and. I was like, wait, I swear to
- 52:02God, he was in there. It's.
- 52:03Just an illusion, but fucking use of brain.
- 52:06The best part is I thought he died and I was like oh thank
- 52:09fuck that love triangle it was really bad.
- 52:12And then she's dragging herself to the water.
- 52:14And of course Kai is at the exact same place because you
- 52:17know, this Riviera is huge, but you're going to.
- 52:19You were just there. She drops to the ground
- 52:23hysterically dying, and he's like screaming for her on his
- 52:28knees. Bit traumatic.
- 52:30Bit traumatic screaming at her name and he's like hey hey don't
- 52:34you dead die on me? If you die, I'm going to kill
- 52:37you. Shut up, shut up.
- 52:40He's going up for two fucking. Days.
- 52:42Okay, the timeline confused the fuck out of me because this all
- 52:45feels like it happened in four days time.
- 52:48Yeah, but they were making it so deep and meaningful because they
- 52:51did all this dance training. They did all this combat
- 52:54training and then they're supposed to just fight each
- 52:56other in the arena, and then the second they're in the arena
- 52:59thing, he's like, well duh, we're going to team up, bitch.
- 53:02Well, what idea is it you? Can't.
- 53:05Say that later. Yeah.
- 53:06Why did you just strategize not having feelings for her?
- 53:09Because you're going to beat her up in the arena and then the
- 53:11second you're in there you're like, we make a great team.
- 53:14Wouldn't you have fucking strategize that?
- 53:16He's fucking deluded. But like, Sadie tried to kill
- 53:20Peyton and she was like, I just have to do it.
- 53:21You could have just knocked her out and still a band.
- 53:24You just knock her in the head. They're trying to hunt other
- 53:28people. They never find anyone.
- 53:30And then they get told to meet in this area.
- 53:33And then they get they fight to the death.
- 53:35And this is where Kai accidentally stabs Jasper.
- 53:39And then he's again, Jasper doesn't die because there's a
- 53:41healer in the audience and he runs to the healer and I'm like,
- 53:44he's very low stakes. He should have just died.
- 53:47But that's when they go to the next thing where they're having
- 53:50interviews, and essentially the footage was just the love
- 53:55between her and Kai. I'm like, this is when we go
- 53:58back to The Hunger Games, where they're using, Yeah, like Peter
- 54:01and Katniss. The love for each other, fake
- 54:05relationship. Yeah, and of course he's
- 54:07smoking. They watched a whole footage
- 54:09back of them slow dancing together, them cuddling to
- 54:13sleep. And he's like, you know what?
- 54:16That's the girl for me. Not for my brother.
- 54:18That's the girl for me. Just double s down.
- 54:21You can have a love triangle but like you just watch footage of
- 54:25them fucking slow dancing in a forest and then cuddling after.
- 54:28Be fucking for real. I don't get what kids even
- 54:31thinking. I don't actually think he likes
- 54:33her. I think he likes that.
- 54:35Kind of likes her, yeah. The second boy essentially tells
- 54:38her he loves her. He spills wine all over himself
- 54:41and he's just obsessing over her.
- 54:43He cuts her out of her dress, tells her to go to bed.
- 54:46I'm like, one, you're the drunk one, go to bed.
- 54:49And then they send the the everyone back to fight in the
- 54:52arena, but they tell no one but the girls.
- 54:56The only reason she kind of won this fight was because she threw
- 55:00a rock at Blair and then just tackled her.
- 55:03She got scrappy. With it.
- 55:04She got scrappy. That's the real loot skills.
- 55:07Oh yeah. Just it's a slumber.
- 55:09Coming out two. And three.
- 55:10Yeah, it's just a street fight for me.
- 55:12And then Blair just runs away. Blair doesn't make any sense
- 55:15because she does not care about anything else and she's going to
- 55:19run away because she got a bruised face.
- 55:21Literally. Then we have the mountain climb.
- 55:23I'm so confused. So I'm still convinced that the
- 55:27younger brother is supposed to be killed.
- 55:29So they put Peyton Jackson ace in a team together and then four
- 55:34others in the other team that are.
- 55:35Friends. Yeah, yeah, the.
- 55:37Friends that are together and I'm like, if they I think the
- 55:40king just put them in there so they would all get murdered.
- 55:43The guy does an illusion for snakes and she trips down the
- 55:47mountain, but the other team actually gets snakes.
- 55:50And I was confused. I was like, did you actually get
- 55:52snakes or was there like snake illusions?
- 55:56But essentially they had to run up the mountain and then they
- 55:59were fighting to the death for the fucking flag.
- 56:02And this is where Kai falls in love with Payton Moore because
- 56:05she lets him kill Ace for revenge.
- 56:09And then the king is pissy because she won the flag.
- 56:12The whole build up was this scene where they're finally
- 56:15about to kiss Yeah, and they're awkwardly interrupted by a
- 56:18King's guard who's just standing there and.
- 56:20Honestly it could have been a really cute kiss too, but I
- 56:23guess the tension is more important in the rain give.
- 56:26Us nothing I guess. Just let us live in poverty.
- 56:28You know Walter, boys in the rain.
- 56:31Tell me why the scene was giving the guards just awkwardly
- 56:33standing there staring at them like.
- 56:35Because mouth breathing away and.
- 56:37The guy was like I'm going to cut your tongue out if you
- 56:40interrupt. Also, you just kiss.
- 56:42Her fuck the king. And he even said if I start
- 56:45kissing her, I'm not going to be able to like, stop myself.
- 56:48So you're going to start dry humping this girl in front of
- 56:50the guard that's literally tapping you on the shoulder
- 56:52because that's what it was giving.
- 56:54And. I just do it anyway.
- 56:55It's like he was going to whip his just.
- 56:57Now like fuck off for 5 minutes. And he's like, no, it's urgent.
- 57:00The king needs you. And then king, king, king I'm.
- 57:03Going to go suck the king. That's what the guard was
- 57:06saying. But then he, like, goes up there
- 57:09and the King's like, you can't make out with that girl.
- 57:12Sorry. OK, OK.
- 57:14But why hold until this moment? Did he tell the God, hey I'll
- 57:18give you 50 bucks if you just follow them around until the
- 57:21right amount of sexual tension? He's like.
- 57:25I feel like what happened is so in the rain, having a moment and
- 57:27the God was like fuck, and then he had to run to the king and he
- 57:30was like Oh my God, they're about to fuck in the rain and
- 57:33then he had to run back. How old?
- 57:35Were you guys just running back back and forth?
- 57:37And he's like, he's like, it's fine, they're just in the rain.
- 57:40And then he runs back to the king and he's like shit, they're
- 57:42almost kissing and then he has to run back.
- 57:45He's just running back and forth.
- 57:46And he's like, fuck, and the King's like you better not let
- 57:48them kiss. And he's like.
- 57:49Shit. There's like no texting back
- 57:51then. No.
- 57:53So bad. He's just, yeah, like he's like
- 57:56shit, they're about to kiss and someone's running back is.
- 57:58Totally ruining the vibe it's giving.
- 58:01Royal cock block. That was your name, your role.
- 58:07Royal Caucus of the Blockers, you.
- 58:12Quit your job and on your resume it's just like royal cock block
- 58:16five years experience discreet discreet follows around Princess
- 58:23cock blocks make sure they don't kiss.
- 58:26OK. Tell me why he comes up to the
- 58:31King's Tower or whatever. You know that there was a lot of
- 58:34stairs involved. So he's huffing and puffing.
- 58:36Daddy's got you. Daddy's like electing you.
- 58:40He's like, no, I don't want you with that girl.
- 58:45And it's like, you could have told me this months ago, but I
- 58:49don't know the timeline. You could have told me this a
- 58:51week ago. I mean, the king apparently
- 58:53knows all in the end and he's like I.
- 58:56Knew everything. I think he hates his son.
- 58:59He just hates his son. He.
- 59:01Does he taught? He tortured him and taught him
- 59:03how to. Torture.
- 59:04You know what it is? Emotional torture.
- 59:07Yeah, the reasoning was so dumb. He practically just said just
- 59:12cause, and then he just sent him on his way.
- 59:15He's like, And then Kai's sitting there, he's still not
- 59:18even conflicted about his role. He just walks out of that
- 59:21meeting and it's just like. You know, what a weirdo being
- 59:24still really cute. I know we keep it.
- 59:26If she'd had wanted to keep on the tension.
- 59:28But he should have left the king and just stormed down to her
- 59:32room, banged on that door and just kissed her anyway.
- 59:35That would have been the. Best.
- 59:36It would have been like tension. And like, considering they hate
- 59:39each other in the end of the book anyway, it would have made
- 59:42the heartbreak so much more actually matter.
- 59:45Yeah, it would have been more insane if he did that and then
- 59:48she did the breast still. Exactly.
- 59:50It's giving Romeo and Juliet we're not supposed to be
- 59:53together. Yeah.
- 59:54So of course there's this big. Build up about her finally
- 59:57completing her mission on her dad's behalf of like trying to
- 1:00:00kill the king. I mean, which come on, the way
- 1:00:03that that was set up was just. She can, she has a horse it out
- 1:00:07for kit so that she can get the tunnels.
- 1:00:10Honestly, the resistance shit, they just needed to look a
- 1:00:14fucking around. But you know what it was giving?
- 1:00:16They just met in a Walmart car park.
- 1:00:18Yeah. It was just giving.
- 1:00:19They were just magically at the same place at the same time and.
- 1:00:22You like why is it so secretive but you're going to tell some
- 1:00:25random chick from loot how to get into the castle?
- 1:00:29So the last trial after this whole thing was them in this
- 1:00:34massive fucking maze, which I feel like we've seen a lot of
- 1:00:37things before. Yeah.
- 1:00:38I feel like we've read about a lot of mazes.
- 1:00:40She gets attacked by Blair. She's already lost her shoes.
- 1:00:43She had to wrap her foot because she.
- 1:00:44It's got fucking torn up by thorns.
- 1:00:47Steal Blair's fucking shoes, Right.
- 1:00:49Steal her shoes, Yeah. Maybe she's got big hoofers.
- 1:00:52I don't. Fuck, you're going to run
- 1:00:54through a maze with thorns and rocks and shit?
- 1:00:57Maybe, she thought, I'll just raw dog it.
- 1:00:59At the end of this whole fucking maze, they're supposed to kill a
- 1:01:02criminal. Yeah, but it's Peyton's friend.
- 1:01:07How convenient that all the ordinary, like all the slum
- 1:01:10peoples, keep getting set up. Just keep getting set up but
- 1:01:13like Hayden was never going to kill her friend so she was never
- 1:01:16going to win but then if Kai killed her.
- 1:01:19Then she's going to be mad as well.
- 1:01:21As she's going to be mad at Kai, but then if Kai doesn't kill
- 1:01:24her, the King's going to be pissed.
- 1:01:26And you know he's going to do whatever his daddy wants.
- 1:01:28No, but I feel like Kai wouldn't have killed her.
- 1:01:31Yeah, probably not, I feel. Like he would have had, that's
- 1:01:33the only time he would have had a moral problem and that could
- 1:01:37have been some really amazing character growth.
- 1:01:39For, yeah, but why? Why have something build up to
- 1:01:42anything, Yeah, when we could just have everything build up to
- 1:01:44nothing, yeah. Exactly.
- 1:01:46I'm like, this was the perfect opportunity.
- 1:01:48To have a little moral, you've already made two small tweaks
- 1:01:52that wouldn't take that long to ride in that would have improved
- 1:01:55the quality like tenfold I. Know I'm like.
- 1:01:59But then Blair kills Adina before anyone.
- 1:02:01Oh, duh, because she's got. Titties.
- 1:02:05And that now we have a real reason to be mad at Blair
- 1:02:08instead of she touched my man's forearm.
- 1:02:10Oh. My God, she, she breathed in
- 1:02:13his. Direction.
- 1:02:14Exactly. And she's not a gull's gull.
- 1:02:18No, but then immediately the resistant attacks.
- 1:02:22If you're going to storm a fucking castle arena, have
- 1:02:25enough people. If you're going to take the
- 1:02:28king, take the fucking king. Don't.
- 1:02:29Fuck around. But it didn't even sound like he
- 1:02:31had that many gods, realistically.
- 1:02:33Because he doesn't really because he's a brawny or brawler
- 1:02:36or whatever he's but how he got out of the gods arena and Peyton
- 1:02:40still took him down doesn't make any fucking sense.
- 1:02:43She's a small girl that has been starved her entire life and
- 1:02:47she's only had probably like two weeks of working out.
- 1:02:50But she's been motivated by the revenge of her father.
- 1:02:54I know that's where I get all my energy.
- 1:02:58Like. Fighting, Hitting the gym?
- 1:02:59Absolutely not. A little bit of Do I have
- 1:03:02feminine rage? Yes, I have.
- 1:03:04You know what, with the amount of rage in my small body, I
- 1:03:07probably could take it. Could lift.
- 1:03:08A car. I could lift a car.
- 1:03:11In my dreams. You know what's good though?
- 1:03:13Like, OK, so she's facing up with the king.
- 1:03:15Yeah, right. So everything's like this is all
- 1:03:18built up to this moment, right? He's trying to spill the tea.
- 1:03:21And he's just like, girl, you don't even know what happened
- 1:03:24back then, bitch, How do you mistake what she thought she
- 1:03:28saw, which is the king killing her dad with essentially a child
- 1:03:33killing her dad? Bitch, go to.
- 1:03:35Specsavers. Oh my God, a 14 year old boy
- 1:03:39kills her father and she's like, you know what?
- 1:03:42It's a grown man. It's a grown.
- 1:03:43He's a brawler. Who looks exactly like the king?
- 1:03:45And he's wearing. Like king clothes.
- 1:03:47I'm not even sure Kai is the King's child at this point.
- 1:03:49No. And then the king has the
- 1:03:51audacity to be like ha ha ha. I knew all along that you're an
- 1:03:56ordinary and I was just setting you up and it's like, bitch.
- 1:04:00Why though? Because.
- 1:04:01She got close to your eldest and then you're 2nd and was getting
- 1:04:05inside her info. So why did you actually need her
- 1:04:08alive? Because you technically didn't.
- 1:04:10Feel like this man was dumb and had no fucking clue.
- 1:04:12You could have bug zapped her day one because he goes I needed
- 1:04:16you alive for what? To cock tease your sons.
- 1:04:20Just tell me you're incest with your son.
- 1:04:23Like what was the plot? Like what was the point of
- 1:04:25keeping her alive? Quote UN quote.
- 1:04:27There was no. Point.
- 1:04:28That's what I mean, but that's what he brought up.
- 1:04:30And then he gives her a head start.
- 1:04:32He's like, off you go, I'll just chase after you.
- 1:04:35That was the best part, imagining her fucking sprinting
- 1:04:38off. Literally because like the king
- 1:04:41even carves an owener and then tries to kill her after.
- 1:04:45I'm like, just fucking start the just.
- 1:04:47Do. Her.
- 1:04:48Yeah, she runs away after killing the king.
- 1:04:50So she finds out this and she's like, Oh my God, Kai, the guy I
- 1:04:54barely. Know.
- 1:04:55He's. The murderer.
- 1:04:57The trained assassin who was taught to.
- 1:04:59Kill this man that everyone is scared of because all he does is
- 1:05:03kill people. And Column, he's shocked.
- 1:05:05She's like, oh, the king made him do his dirty.
- 1:05:08Work. Oh, the king has been training
- 1:05:09him since a small child to kill people, and then he killed my
- 1:05:12father as a child. Literally, they reunite.
- 1:05:16Yes. And of course she's going to be
- 1:05:19pissy. He acts like the victim.
- 1:05:23Kai doesn't even acknowledge it. He doesn't even admit it either.
- 1:05:26Pepper through this fucking book, I shit you not, is bits of
- 1:05:29him being horrified by the people he's had to kill when he
- 1:05:33was traumatized and the first person he had to kill is
- 1:05:37Peyton's dad and he remembers all the people he had to kill.
- 1:05:40Unless I am fucking de Lulu about that and somehow forgets
- 1:05:45that he killed Peyton's dad. They had the same fucking last
- 1:05:48name. You didn't want to put two and
- 1:05:50two together. Like the?
- 1:05:51Most typical and she's. Fantasy.
- 1:05:54And not only that, she's constantly talking about how her
- 1:05:56dad was the loot healer. So you're going to set, you're
- 1:06:00going to kill the loot healer and then forget who he is even
- 1:06:04though you remember everything. There's so many plot holes it's
- 1:06:08fucking ridiculous. You know that he looked exactly
- 1:06:10like Peyton. Why does Kai even like his dad?
- 1:06:14I know too much about him. He's not nice to him.
- 1:06:17I do not understand my kid like he's dad.
- 1:06:19His mums a bimbo who only cares about the ball and dresses so
- 1:06:22there's no hope there. She's a dumb bitch.
- 1:06:24Hey it would make more sense if Kai hated his dad but then was
- 1:06:30conflicted about if he was sad about his dad dying or if he was
- 1:06:34conflicted feeling guilty about not being sad.
- 1:06:37Rather than him being like I'm going to kill Peyton, wouldn't
- 1:06:39you praise the bitch? Like thank you for taking this
- 1:06:42horrible person out of my life. Well, now he's just obligated.
- 1:06:45That's what it always comes back down to because he's like, well,
- 1:06:48now that she's killed my dad, I'm obligated to kill her.
- 1:06:51But I'll give you a head start. Golly yeah, I'm giving you a
- 1:06:53head start. Go for a run.
- 1:06:54But not only that, the epilogue was kids perspective and it was
- 1:06:59so fucking stupid. And I don't want to hear
- 1:07:02anything from this man the. Kid is fucking the most foul
- 1:07:05character in this book. But he's that boring.
- 1:07:08He's. So fucking boring.
- 1:07:09I feel like they're supposed to swoon because he's the better
- 1:07:12brother but he's just boring. Is he the better brother?
- 1:07:16He's not like. He's not.
- 1:07:17I feel like in the back of my mind, you cannot be the better
- 1:07:21brother if you've watched your brother fall in love with this
- 1:07:25woman because essentially that's what it is.
- 1:07:27And then you're just like, you know what?
- 1:07:30It's my time to shine. Fuck off.
- 1:07:32If you are so respectful of your brother, you're not going to go
- 1:07:36after the girl he's obsessed with.
- 1:07:39But for her, just fucking opt out.
- 1:07:41You're allowed to say no. Oh absolutely.
- 1:07:44Just get out of the family at this point.
- 1:07:46Well, she dealings with the dad, the brother, the brother.
- 1:07:48Like, well, she kind of has the feels for Kai.
- 1:07:51There's there's little. People who definitely don't need
- 1:07:53to get involved with kid. No, fuck kid, he's stupid as
- 1:07:56fuck. And boring.
- 1:07:58He's so. Boring in a way.
- 1:07:59He's giving asexual. He thinks women are breeders, is
- 1:08:02what I'm thinking. No, but I also feel like he only
- 1:08:05cares because she's the only one that's not fawning over him at
- 1:08:09the same time. Yeah, and it's like she's so
- 1:08:11disinterested in you that you are obsessed.
- 1:08:14It's more ownership, but not in a hot, sexy way.
- 1:08:17You're going to get locked up in bread somewhere, Yeah.
- 1:08:21Never see the light of day ever again.
- 1:08:23You know what? It would just breed out the
- 1:08:24fucking powerful. Yeah, I know.
- 1:08:26The irony. But it's like, why wouldn't you
- 1:08:29just tell your fucking son that she's powerless?
- 1:08:32The end. Let's squash her like a bug.
- 1:08:34Who? Cares.
- 1:08:35Why wouldn't you pay someone in the trials to kill her?
- 1:08:38I know it's that simple, but they don't even need to escalate
- 1:08:41her to that point. They could have killed her ages
- 1:08:43ago if he knew about it forever. Ago.
- 1:08:45Yeah, yeah. She's a non event just.
- 1:08:47Slaughter in her room at that point, who's?
- 1:08:50Going to know. Cover it up.
- 1:08:51You're the king. But yeah, kids perspective.
- 1:08:53And then he's like, you better go get our girl.
- 1:08:55I'm not sure if he's at our girl, but it was implied.
- 1:08:58And I'm like. Stop.
- 1:09:01I just love how I gave my head start.
- 1:09:03It was great. That's the funniest thing you
- 1:09:04did? I will not fault off.
- 1:09:06He's like, no, because I will get you girl.
- 1:09:09He literally said something. You better run because I will
- 1:09:13not fault at this time. Fucking I'm out of here.
- 1:09:18Is there anywhere else to live like this whole area?
- 1:09:21Just go into the fucking dessette dessette.
- 1:09:24Dessette. Yummy.
- 1:09:26Just go. Fucking off grid and never speak
- 1:09:28to these fucking. People again, I'm like, you're
- 1:09:30fucking. Homeless with no friends?
- 1:09:32Like at this point you could be anywhere.
- 1:09:34You know, back in the day when they were living in loot, if her
- 1:09:37and her friend got together, find a way to live on the on the
- 1:09:41earth or something, I don't know.
- 1:09:43Well, they could have had so much more opportunity living in
- 1:09:46that fucking house. Her friend could have had a.
- 1:09:49Little soul, I can't. Her friend could have a little
- 1:09:52sewing room and then a little come into the.
- 1:09:55Business. They could have had a business
- 1:09:56together. Yeah, women supporting women.
- 1:09:59But then here we are. Trash and these characters like
- 1:10:02no tomorrow I. Want to know people must have
- 1:10:05enjoyed this just for the conversations because it's the
- 1:10:07only thing that. I think it is besides the back
- 1:10:11and forth and the start. I was enjoying it because it was
- 1:10:14a little carefree, like carefree stupid.
- 1:10:17But that's because I love the really shitty like books.
- 1:10:21Romanticy. Yeah.
- 1:10:22It is not fantasy, no, it's romance first fantasy setting
- 1:10:27It's. Very.
- 1:10:28It's kind of like 4th Wing where it was more romance and a smidge
- 1:10:33of fantasy. But give us a proper motivation,
- 1:10:35give us a proper love triangle if you're going to do romanticy.
- 1:10:39Give me a proper moral dilemma. Just give me anything.
- 1:10:42I'm going to go hard. If.
- 1:10:43You. Here's the thing.
- 1:10:45If you're going to go hard into overused tropes, you do it well.
- 1:10:49Put some more ordinary. But you don't need to have sex
- 1:10:52for it to be. Zesty.
- 1:10:54So is that kind of? The plot?
- 1:10:56That's the. Plot.
- 1:10:56Honestly, you're. Saying how we got to the end of
- 1:10:58the plot there isn't it? I was really struggling.
- 1:11:01I was very much treading water through the whole thing because
- 1:11:05I was like, wait, when we just did a ball?
- 1:11:07Like how many events are there at the trials?
- 1:11:08None of this was explained or structured well.
- 1:11:11If you're going to give me a reason to care, kill them off.
- 1:11:14Kill off your characters. Fuck your characters.
- 1:11:17Make me like someone first though.
- 1:11:18Make me like them and then make me feel.
- 1:11:21Fucking make me feel. Anything though, because I
- 1:11:23didn't feel anything. Yeah, see, the best books always
- 1:11:26make me feel some type of way of their characters.
- 1:11:28And I literally Jax or Jasper or whatever his fucking name is, he
- 1:11:33should have just died. They should have built him up a
- 1:11:35bit more and then killed him. And then we would have had maybe
- 1:11:39a moral dilemma of Kai hating his dad for putting the younger
- 1:11:43brother in the games. Give me a reason to hate Blair,
- 1:11:47but then also give me a reason to like her and not want to die.
- 1:11:50So like, I'm struggling. Exactly.
- 1:11:52I don't know, like just. Killing the all powerful king
- 1:11:55like as you said, when you're the powerless 1.
- 1:11:57Doesn't mean. Thrilling.
- 1:12:00He should be more of a problem. It must just be setting up for
- 1:12:03Kit to be the king in the very next book.
- 1:12:06That's why they would have killed off the king.
- 1:12:07Yeah, but is she going to kill off Kit because they're not
- 1:12:10going to get rid of Kit because he's a love triangle?
- 1:12:13But he's not a good one. I think they're going to have a
- 1:12:15second love triangle interest because she hates Kai at the
- 1:12:18moment and it's not going to be Kit.
- 1:12:20Because that flop, I feel like this is the enemy to love his
- 1:12:22bit, but it's going to be like. But there's going to be another
- 1:12:24guy in the mix. There's going to be.
- 1:12:26It's too boring otherwise. I'm parched.
- 1:12:29I'm thirsty. I'm not always thirsty because
- 1:12:32sometimes things will entertain you.
- 1:12:34I actually, you know what I really did like about this book?
- 1:12:37That there was no sex scenes and I because I prefer the tension.
- 1:12:40So for that I'm fulfilled. So what should we rate this out
- 1:12:43of how many? Dimply smirks out of five.
- 1:12:47How many dimply smirks yeah I want to do?
- 1:12:51I'm so conflicted because I feel like it's not so low that it's a
- 1:12:562.5 but it's not so high that it's a 3.
- 1:12:59Yeah, OK. So it's like a mid ground, yeah.
- 1:13:01Maybe just go 3 then 33 means you liked it.
- 1:13:05I didn't. I did like it.
- 1:13:06I just feel like you had really good potential for more.
- 1:13:10If I'm just going to go with the straight up one out of five, I'm
- 1:13:13going to just hit it with A1 because I mean more plot girl
- 1:13:16like let's achieve lift off on this home.
- 1:13:18Actually, to be fair, if I'm talking about entertained, yeah,
- 1:13:21men, I was entertained by the cringy dialogue, which is a
- 1:13:24three to me, but plot wise it's a one.
- 1:13:27Because there was no plot. If it's such a sensation to
- 1:13:30TikTok, yeah, then you girls be lacking, shots fired.
- 1:13:35You people be lacking. I think it's a comfort read
- 1:13:38thing where someone wants to read something 2° different to
- 1:13:42something that they've read a million times over so they can
- 1:13:44go, I'm going to add that into the rotation and read it
- 1:13:47whenever I'm having a sad day. Yeah, true.
- 1:13:49I think that's what it is. They're too scared to go a
- 1:13:51little bit further left all. I'm saying is that Lauren could
- 1:13:55have had the ideas to make it. Yeah.
- 1:13:58She had the word count. She had the time.
- 1:14:01She had the time, she had the ideas.
- 1:14:03I think she just needed to have a conversation with someone
- 1:14:07about her ideas. Cut it in half, cut the word
- 1:14:11count in half, trim all the fat off and what you trimmed off,
- 1:14:14add back as settings and plot. Like reason for them doing this
- 1:14:18trials Like give us a bit more reason, give us a bit higher
- 1:14:20stakes. Like you said, kill a couple of
- 1:14:22people off, give us people to care about.
- 1:14:25You can't just kill off non existent characters.
- 1:14:27I know it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
- 1:14:30So my my rating is all over the place because I'm conflicted and
- 1:14:34confused. That's OK, All right, so we're
- 1:14:37probably going to read Scarred next because I want to
- 1:14:40emotionally scar myself. And then I'm going to
- 1:14:43emotionally scar you some more with the book after that.
- 1:14:45Oh, I'm. So excited.
- 1:14:46Don't tell me what it is. Yeah.
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