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From Broke Intern to a Netflix Producer Oprah Calls 'Different' | Devon Franklin · The Table with Anthony ONeal

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I'll tell you that a man who started as an unpaid intern has now built a movie business, a movie empire that has made hundreds of millions inside the box office sits on the board that decides to off-skirts and just dropped a powerful Netflix movie that could change Hollywood forever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Y'all know him as my dear friend of my brother, Devon Franklin, the producer, Verity calls one of the top 10 to watch, and one of the Oprah Winfrey calls a different kind of spiritual teacher, and that he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's here to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: not only his latest movie, but how he built the million dollar plus empire by doing something most people think is possible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch this, staying true to his faith while making serious money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And serious more so I would say impact in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Y'all said, can y'all welcome back?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, back to the table before the first time live in the studio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My brother and dear friend, Devon Franklin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on, man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo, what's up, man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good bro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: D-C-I-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S-D-S
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[SPEAKER_00]: He invited the white.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, this is great thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It climbs a good thing and obtains a favor of the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, man, I'll get this favor of my brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I'm right behind, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so serious, but I want to get straight into it, divine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My audience, man, they come to me because they want financial advice and financial motivation, but they also they want inspiration on how to pursue their dreams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And doing my research for today, because I really want to dive in more to like your particular journey, you started as an unpaid intern with Will Smith producing partner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How did you survive during that time?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if I'm not mistaken, you started for free.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, working in Hollywood, but you were pursuing your dream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What was the motivation behind that to do it for free?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And how did you even survive that season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, the motivation was, you know, I did it while I was going to college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went to the University of Southern California and what was interesting was when I went to the University of Southern California.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Originally, I wanted to go as a film major, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And however, when you, you know, even now, like a few were to apply to the University of Southern California, you still have to apply to their film program separately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because it's like one of the top film schools, if not the top film school in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so originally I thought, oh, I'm gonna go become a film major, but I got rejected from the film school at USC, but I got accepted to the USC in general admission.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I got there, I was like, oh man, what am I gonna do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I decided to have a take a business major and do a film minor, but I also realized that even though I had a desire to work in entertainment at that time, 18 years old,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no experience working in entertainment, so I knew I had to get an internship to give me real world experience inside the business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so getting that internship working for the management company of Will Smith and at that time that company managed Will Smith and Jayda Pinkett Smith, they wouldn't even marry Jayda Pinkett at that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: baby face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so many other, you know, great talent at that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for me, it was an opportunity once I got the internship, even though it was on paid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, financially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually paid experientially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What went through your heart?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you said, man, you was turned down by Southern cows film school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a lot of people when they get turned down, when the dream gets turned down, a lot of them will quit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What made you come up with another avenue, another route, rather than saying, you know what, maybe I'm not good enough because they deny me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, it was just more about being perseverance and yeah, and really just continuing to be tenacious and yeah, continue to not allow that rejection to, um, from for me not to interpret that rejection as misdirection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because so often like if I allowed that them to reject me and then I interpreted that rejection is not being good enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'm misdirect it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, it was like, okay, that means I'm rejected, but let me then just be redirected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'd said, okay, I'm going to keep pursuing this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even if I got into school, I knew I needed an internship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing to think about what you want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's another thing about putting yourself in an environment to get that experience to confirm what you want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, the way that I was just so focused because I had a desire and a dream, I wanted to make it in Hollywood, you know, I was committed to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just was not going to take, you know, no foreign answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I needed to find a way to get my foot in the door and the internship was the best way to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, working for free as an intern, we have several interns here at our company as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm always encouraging them, like, hey, some of them work for me, not necessarily for free, but it's almost close to free.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I'm always trying to give them something practical that money just can't buy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious, what is one thing you've learned in that season of your life that you are applying today with this amazing Devon Franklin business that you've built with movies that are inspiring millions?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is one lesson you learned for free that you just can't attach money to?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, always a BF service, you know, I mean, that's the thing when I was an intern, you know, there wasn't anyone giving me instruction, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I had to, when I first day on the internship, you know, I basically, you know, they have me, they had a place for me to sit in the file room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, no instruction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I just did what I had learned in church, which is a B.F.
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[SPEAKER_01]: service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, went around and said, you know, what are your coffee orders?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what are your lunch orders?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To all the assistants and, you know, started running errands and then copy and scripts and filing papers and at the time, you know, faxes were a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I get all the faxes that came through and distribute those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I learned to be of service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is what got me then to get into relationship with people like Will Smith,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Danny Medina, who manages Jennifer Lopez right now, he's been his turf forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was service, the served my service, and my commitment to service spoke for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the same thing that I do now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In service to the audience that I make content for, or even if I'm acting in service to the audience, that's going to watch the performance in service to the studios that I work with, Netflix, and Tyler Perry Studios, and Prime, and so many other Hollywood studios, like being in service and service to the production and service to the crew,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is something that, if we always have that service mentality, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You may have periods of unemployment, but you never be out of a job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that is something that people just, when you do it, and you do it with excellence, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll open up every door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what I really have based my entire life and career on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you really have, man, every time I talk to you and ask you a question, man, you've always been, I felt the, I want to help you win, signing things, and I just want to appreciate you for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you went from an intern for free, dealing with life at that time and growing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk about how did you go from intern to starting your business getting your first movie?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did that season look like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, internship was 18 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't actually produce my first film until 36.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, wait, wait, 18 first film 36.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you feel so?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's be real, cause you ain't, they're buying that much order to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that wasn't too much longer though, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you feel...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, God was delaying you, or did you feel like, hey, I'm behind at all going from 18 to 36?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it wasn't so much about feeling like I was behind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think in my early years, you know, I was in a rush.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was like, you know, graduated college with the business plan for my production company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in 22 years old, I really wanted that company to be funded and nobody wanted to fund my company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my first job, you know, went off with me a producer's chair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They offered me an assistant chair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, a lot of times it's one thing to have the vision that's great, but you didn't have to allow yourself to be put into a process for that vision to not only be manifest, but for you to be ready to actually handle the vision because visions weigh something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're not light.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They come with a lot of weight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They come with a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They come with a lot of stress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have not allowed the process to build your competency to handle the manifestation of your vision, that vision will crush you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It will crush you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so at 22, I had the vision, but I didn't have the skill set.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have the experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have the competency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm so glad that God, you know, held back the manifestation so that I could be prepared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for, you know, I took a job as an assistant, working at Will's company for his manager.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did that for two years, then I left, and I became a junior executive in development for Tracy Edmunds and baby faces company at that time called Edmunds Entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: did that for about almost a year and a half and then I got hired as a studio executive for MGM.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had just made the Barbershop movie and that was going, you know, that was doing extremely well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just did Barbershop 2 and I went there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I worked on Beauty Shop, which was the third installment in that movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also worked on Be Cool, which was the sequel to Get Shorty with The Rock and Vince Vaughn and John Travolta in Oommer's Army.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then while I was at
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[SPEAKER_01]: MGM got sold to Sony Pictures Entertainment, and I was one of two executives to make the transition to Sony Pictures Entertainment, and the irony about that is that when I got to become an executive at Sony Pictures, they had a production deal with Will Smith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what was amazing is that I was put right back in relationship, you know, with him and the company that actually laid the foundation for my career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first movie that I worked on was pursuit of happiness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, talking about being a service, you know, I was the junior executive on that film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, and it was, you know, it was cool to go to Saturn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's like, oh, man, you're the suit now, you know, because that was cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what was also cool was when I saw the first cut of the film, I was so moved by it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, you know what, I got to take this message of hope and inspiration to the audience that I know is going to really appreciate it, which is the church.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I put together a business plan on a 40-page business plan on how to take this message of faith to the faith-based audience, where we what I could do with Will, and, you know, everybody signed off on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I took Will to make a facet that time, you know, facilitated the relationship with Mr. Jakes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: brought the whole family, and then we did personalized greetings to all the top churches in the country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did a faith-based trailer for pursuit of happiness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that became very successful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: pursuit of happiness made almost as much as the James Bond filmed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Casino Royale, that was released domestically that same year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So James Bond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here he made like a 166 domestically, and pursuit of happiness, it around 160, something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a massive success, but the reason I highlight that, it goes back to what we talked about earlier, service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a junior executive, I know that Will Smith has done so much for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that Sony Pictures has given me a job, how can I make an impact?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the scene in the organization?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because when you find that scene, that scene of service, that's how you can alter your garment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I come in there and I just start cutting the fabric, it's going look terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I find that seam, I can open the seam and then I can insert what needs to be inserted with the garment, looking better, not worse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for me, it was like, wow, this is the seam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The seam is, I see something nobody else sees, and I can bring an audience and nobody else can bring.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that led to that success of that film.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I, you know, that put me on a path that worked on seven pounds and cat and fill up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2014, I worked on a film called Heaven Is For Real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We made that film for $14 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It opened to $30 million and it went on to do $100 million.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today, it's one of the most successful faith-based movies in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now two days after opening a weekend, I was in the office of the Chairman of Sony Pictures at that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her name was Amy Pascal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Amy was like, oh my goodness, you know, this is amazing, this is your movie, you know, you made this movie, it's gonna make so much money for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to promote you, we want to give you a raise, and I told her, thank you, but I'm not taking it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said I'm quitting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, well, what would you talk about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I came to Hollywood to start my own production company, and I'm making y'all too much money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't participate in this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: quitting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said not only am I quitting, but I want you to give me a deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want you to find my production company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for a moment she thought about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she was like, okay, I will do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can't negotiate with anyone else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that's fine as long as the deal is good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, here's what's important about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the time I made that request, I had been in the business 18 years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had been at Sony Pictures at that time for about eight or nine years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I knew what I had deposited into that account.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So often, you know, this generation is in such a hurry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to make withdrawals from accounts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They never put anything into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like when you buy a house, you don't get that equity immediately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to keep working and allow that equity over time to build and then over time you have enough equity to take out of that account.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with your career, same thing with success, you got to pay your time, you got to put in time and over time, you will know when you have enough equity to be able to take that leap of faith, there to be able to go out there and do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I did not go before her before it was my time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it still took faith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took faith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a scary moment like, wow, I'm quitting my job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what she's going to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, I'm like, wait, if I can do this, if I can make these commercial films that also have these messages of hope and faith in inspiration and do it for an audience that's underserved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've got the, you know, from not easily broken to jump into broom, to sparkle, to have in his for real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not to mention all the other films I talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I can, I have a business plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: evidence that I'm good at this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so why not invest in myself?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was a it was a calculated leap of faith that was built upon time and effort and and being of service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I share that because a lot of folks want to quit after 18 days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I'm saying, hey, I stuck in there for 18 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the thing about it is man, once I had the company,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing when you're inside a company, and you're phone's ringing off the hook, and people are calling you, because when you're a studio executive, you're in a very powerful position in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was one of the highest ranking black studio executives at the time, and one of the youngest at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because I reached the senior vice president ranks before I quit and started Devon Franklin Entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But your phone is ringing all the time on your studio executive when you run your own company as a production company You know your phone is not ringing you have to generate the content you've got to go find the material You've got to push things together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's one thing for me to have enough faith to be able to go after It's another thing to then have the company and say wow now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a boss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have someone to go down in the hall and say, hey, can you do this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I really had to rely upon all of the foundation that I had learned up into that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If to your point, like in early in the career where there are times when I was frustrated was when I was mad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were times when I didn't understand God's plan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But once I started Devon Franklin Entertainment, I realized, oh God, you were preparing me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: while in those moments when I was frustrated and I thought you were delaying and I thought you maybe even were denying God was saying I wasn't doing it that I was preparing just because I don't want you to just have some I want you to be able to manage it you know I mean even if you look at David in the Bible right he was anointed that he was going to be the next King he didn't go straight to the throne facts he went back to the chief okay
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was over time that he got to a place where finally once he was on the throne, he knew what to do with the throne, because he went through a process.
18:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I started, you know, my company over 10 years ago did miracles from having with Jennifer Garner and Clinton T-FUNs, and it break through a Chrissy Metz and T-O for Grace.
18:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And then did an animated film called The Star, which is a story of the nativity, but from the Annel's point of view with Oprah and Scott O'Berry, and then did a film called Flaming Hot.
18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: not the creator of Flaminghot Cheetos that Eva Lungoria directed and then, you know, just did Ruth and Boas for Netflix and another film called relationship goals for Amazon, Prime Video, which will be out next year.
18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's cool, man, is like, you know, because I focused so much on the foundation of my career, which I call the trunk.
18:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
18:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The trunk of the tree was film, film production, and learning to become excellent in that.
18:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
18:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So as I pursued that and devoted my so focused to that, then the different branches of my tree started to grow.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So the first branch that grew was me as an author.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wrote my first book while I was an executive at Sony Pictures called Produce by Faith.
19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And then along the way, you know, wrote other books.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've written about six books.
19:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, as I did that, then, you know, being a TV personality, that happened.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, being a, you know, featured a guest on Dr. Oz when that was out and, you know, good morning America and, you know, growing on Oprah's Super Soul Sunday show and doing all of these things, that happened.
19:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then preaching, preaching's always been, you know, a branch of the tree.
19:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, a few years ago, one of the brands grew co-acting.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I didn't ever expect to become an actor, but opportunities were presented and I was excited about it.
19:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the reason why I share all of this.
19:47
[SPEAKER_01]: is that, you know, this success that I have, you know, comes from that commitment to serve and to build the trunk.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people that have a lot of branches, but no trunk.
19:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so it's like there's nothing wrong with having a lot of interest and a lot of gifts, but I would really encourage anyone watching to identify, well, what's the gift that I do the best?
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So good.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's the gift that I can actually use to support myself?
20:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't mean that I'd give up on all the other gifts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just saying, okay, this is the main one right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be the trunk of my tree.
20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to give it time for these other branches to have a support system.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Because too often, it's like we're trying to do all these things and we don't plan ourselves.
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's a lot of frustration.
20:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there isn't any planting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to plant yourself, root yourself so that then you can grow according to what God has designed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This, this, this is why you're my brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one question.
22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just going to preach it down because you're making it so good, man, because it's like what you just said, it is so good.
22:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It reminds me of myself.
22:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had an opportunity to work with a, I think he's almost a billionaire now, but a huge name in his face, right?
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I started there for seven years, and while I was there, man, I was like, I had so many ideas that I'm on that, I said, man, I could do this, and I know we could do this, but I couldn't do it because I was called to serve another man's vision.
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
22:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And God, I would get frustrated with God at some times.
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, God, I know if I do this, I know I could,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could just really make a huge impact.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: But guys said, no, I'm preparing you.
22:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And for years, I had to be of service.
22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to submit.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes submitting a bean of service is not always easy, no.
22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But everything that I learned during that time,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm now implementing hit now in the season to where God has allowed me to build my own business when they come to the financial literacy space.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And my God, I get it now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it while I have the low nights, frustrating moments, but I learn so much there that I now and prepared even better for where I'm at now.
23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to encourage you, I mean, thank you for that.
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's I do have one problem with you being an actor, though, the latest TV episode that you're on right now.
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: The board system, the board system, how you ended the first part of the season, meant I threw my popcorn at the TV.
23:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I said the bond, really, it's how you going to end it, bro.
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
23:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to know how it's going to happen if you all have not watched that man y'all have to go watch it and know we're promoting roofed and bow ass today, but I mean brother like that's a divorce sisters the title did not attract me as a man, but because it was you I was like oh my brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna watch it.
23:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I was blue from episode one, man.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: That's always good.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you that I mean Tyler killed it on that one.
24:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He murdered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, he has his best show to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No disrespect to everybody else, the fans of the other shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that show, it's the best.
24:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And the acting, I mean, in the cast members, I mean, it's, I'm just grateful to be included.
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: No, man, it was good, and it was good.
24:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're here to talk about Ruth and Bo as.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And before we get to that, that movie, which, man, I want to say thank you up front for producing this movie.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to ask you this question, though, because I feel as if what you've been able to accomplish inside of Hollywood,
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[SPEAKER_02]: being a proud Christian, being a proud man of God.
24:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I just have to be like, man, I don't see a lot of you in there who's boldly about God, but still making a huge impact.
24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone knows the Von Franklin's name in the industry.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you keep faith so strong?
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[SPEAKER_02]: in Hollywood when it correct me if I'm wrong, but I have friends in Hollywood and a lot of them ain't say, how do you keep the bond frankly, pure and integral and God and a place that is not saturated by God?
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it's a good question.
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't even know if I have a good answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other than I understand that I'm called to be there, right?
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so I felt that call as a teenager that this is where God was calling me.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And then so my response to the call was to answer and to pursue.
25:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And then pursue and then see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, God, I feel this is what you're calling me to do.
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Now let me go pursue what I'm hearing as a way to answer that call.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have to get confirmation.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And the confirmation come in the form of open doors along the way.
25:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So the first door going back to the internship.
25:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there was, at the end of the internship interview, they asked me, you know, is there anything else that they want, that they want to meet and let them know?
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, you know, that I observe the Sabbath.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, you know, and so, you know, and I'm a Christian, and that if, you know, this internship required me to work on this habit, they wouldn't, I would not take the internship.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what I was doing, it wasn't even a conscious thing.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It was more of like, I'm not trying to be in this business at the expense of my faith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm actually trying to make sure that this business can be funded by my faith.
26:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And the only way to do that is to stand on my faith, to just say, okay, this is, I'm not going to compromise this for that.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it God is in this, if God is truly calling me, then why would I need to compromise my belief in him to open a door?
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if I have to compromise, if compromising is the key, then that's not the door.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The only way for me to know is to say, okay, this is what I believe.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: This is these are my principles.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And if this works, great, and if it doesn't, that's okay.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So to answer your question, you know, as I got that confirmation that, oh, yes, they gave me the internship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every job, okay, you can't do this because of your faith, that's okay.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of the sudden, my faith became not only an asset to me, but to my to the bottom line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm able to see things and do things and market and like, oh, people say, wow, you know how to make content for an audience, and we don't even know how to talk to them.
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And so for me, the path to staying faithful is because I realize that I'm not here for myself.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here because this is where God has anointed me and ordained for me to be.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And then also with temptation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can only be tempted by what you want.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, right?
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want something, there's not tempting.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just isn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So someone could come in here and say, offer you sweet potato pie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, oh, I don't like sweet potato pie.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not tempting.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Or someone's come and says, here's a seven-up pound cake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You say, okay, wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, I have never wanted Hollywood for Hollywood's sake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's so I'm not tempted by that, right?
27:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what I've wanted is okay, how do I be obedient?
27:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who got his call me to be and to, you know, operate and to feel that he is ordained me to operate and do it at the highest level and do it with excellence and success.
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't mean that every day is perfect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're all in this process, you know, trying to figure it out and there are certainly some days that I say, okay, God, I could have done better.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, there are some seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, Lord, okay, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But overall, the commitment to stay faithful is because I know that he's put me there.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so good, man.
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that.
28:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk about Ruth and Belaz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why Ruth and Boas, what made you want to produce this movie?
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just live in life, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had gone through divorce and was in a series, a sermon series actually, and I was talking about what it means to be one of one, and one of one is the power being single, and originally that message was based upon the story of Adam and Eve, and then as I was continuing the series of one of one, I started teaching from the book of Ruth.
28:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And what was so powerful about that is that she didn't go looking for boas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't looking for love at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the actual story she had lost her husband.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was following the mother of her, of her husband who had also lost her husband.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have two widows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Ruth made a commitment to follow Naomi back to her homeland.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And they needed to eat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Ruth went to work.
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And then while Ruth was working, she found herself in the field of boas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Boe as wasn't taken by her beauty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was taken by her work ethic.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And said, wow, who is this?
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's working in the field wait a minute.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what was so powerful to me is that here's a woman who is committed to service.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
29:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And as a reward for her commitment, she found love.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: She was not even found love.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: She was gifted love.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Gift to love, yeah.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so often we're out there looking for love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a result, we don't find it.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: versus just being ready to receive it.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So as I was studying that, it coincided with this deal that I have with Tyler Perry and Netflix, and I just said, wait a minute, this reads like a movie.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the scripture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So this reads like a movie, and then I was like, wait, there's never been a modern version of Ruth and Boeess, not as far as I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's never been one with black folks.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Never.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, have never seen it come on.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the genesis and then I worked with Mike Elliott and Cory Tine and who are fantastic writers in Hollywood.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We have done a number of films together and I reached out to them and pitched them, you know, hey, why don't we do a modern version of Ruth and Boa as they were like, oh, we're in and we just started developing the story and we started going through the scriptures and we started identifying the parallels and what we could, what would be Moab today and okay, maybe that's kind of like, you know, Atlanta and this and so
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just went and just started, you know, having a lot of fun creatively to take what was in the scripture and then find, you know, creative ways to adapt it.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: But the heart of it, which was amazing to me is that, you know, as I'm doing this sermon series, as I'm developing this story, I end up finding, you know, my wife, Maria, you know, she's my Ruth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so crazy as we were developing the story.
30:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: There were some moments with my writers, I'm like, y'all wrote this, I said, I am living this moment right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was just a really organic process of like living life and then saying, you know what, we got a, we got a, you know, high light love, we got to put love back on display.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So often in our culture, men and women are talking at each other, not with each other.
31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So true.
31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And as men, you know, I think we should really practice being of service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bo as in this story, he's of service.
31:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not trying to get from Ruth.
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to give to Ruth.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And as men, I think, you know, not being takers, but to be givers.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, this movie really articulates that and showcases what shiverly looks like today, you know, I mean courtship looks like and and it's a beautiful thing because I think relationships gotten have gotten at times and dating can be very transactional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this movie is about relational.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: This movie is about, you know, how did you get back to the essence of what love is really about?
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And so these are the reasons why I wanted to do it.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so excited, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This movie, I mean, we've been, I've been screening it all around the country and folks are just, I mean, people are clapping there, laughing, they're crying, they're, I mean, it's having an effect on people already that is just blowing my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because we've never done it before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is never happened.
32:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting Lodi Moser because I'm a little nervous to see the movie, you know?
32:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Why you nervous, man?
32:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Help me nervous?
32:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I ain't nervous from a negative way.
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm from a seed.
32:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually at the time of recording.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been recorded this last week.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go see your screener next week in Atlanta.
32:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But by the time the show comes out, the movie is out, y'all.
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Just just check it out.
32:41
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious, Demon, what is one thing Bo as dead?
32:47
[SPEAKER_02]: that you think single people, boasted in a movie that you think single men can learn from that we should start implementing when it comes to dating and pursuing love.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked to be a giver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is very important as, you know, just as a formerly single man, you know, when you go back to, you know, not to get overly religious, when you go back to the scripture, you know, Ephesians chapter five, you know, God says husband's love your wife as Christ loved the church.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the next verse he gave,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact of the command is to be a giver and so often, you know, as men, what happens, you know, we have given to some and then they did not receive what we had to give.
33:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And then so we take that as a reason to then I'm not going to give any more and I'm, no, no, no, no.
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you know if you're giving to the right person?
33:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that person not only will receive what you have to give, but then they'll reciprocate.
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And sure, as a man, you can be giving, and you can find yourself with someone who's a taker.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
33:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But don't let that get you out of being a giver.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Given of your time, your consideration, your money, if that's what you have.
34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but just being someone that's like, hey, that's the, that's what I'm here to do.
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to give to the world because what I have learned is what you give, you will get.
34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What you sow, you will reap, and I think sometimes in culture, there's a tendency to look like, what can I get from this person?
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say, no, look to what can I give to this person?
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they don't want to receive it, that's okay.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just off, that's not your person.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But be in the habit of giving, being generous, being attentive.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are things that if you aspire to be a husband, and you're doing those things now,
34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're looking to like, what can I get from this woman?
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this woman, you know, have from me that I can, then you're gonna lay a foundation where it's always gonna be about what you can take and not about what you can get.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's so good, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See ya, I told you I'm a little nervous though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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[SPEAKER_02]: See the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See the movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going there with open heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Open heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Open heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bad thing to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that is something for men, especially in this generation, it is heart dating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it is that, well, I'm taking that back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not hard dating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the problem in reason I'm single is because of me, not because of no other woman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just things that I had to work on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I told you before to show that man up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to season out to her Anthony O'Neill's mature and ready now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to be some evolving and some some maturing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: From Ruth and Boas, we talked about one thing Boas learned that men can learn from Boas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is one thing ladies will learn from Ruth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that when you see, you know, Ruth in this film, you know, you see a woman who at the very beginning is in a lifestyle and in a life, but in a life that doesn't quite align with her spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she just feels that this isn't what is for her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so as a result, she's willing to risk her entire life as she knows it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to pursue what she feels in her spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at her commitment to take care of Naomi and then they find themselves back in, you know, pegrim Tennessee, they go from Atlanta to pegrim Tennessee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing about Ruth, which is so powerful, is that her whole focus is, you know, how can I be of service?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I, you know, make sure that we, we, her and Naomi have provision?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the powerful thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: when love shows up in the form of bow-ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just face with the challenge, even though she doesn't feel ready for love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She then still opens her heart to receive it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you talk about what I believe, you know, young women can take away, keep your heart open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've been through heartbreak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've been through heartache.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've gone through, you know, difficult things and it's very easy to close your heart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But keep it open.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ruth didn't go looking for love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She went to look to be of service, to follow her purpose, to follow her calling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a reward to that love was provided.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if she was closed off, she would never been able to receive it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I see so often in the culture that does, you know, make me sad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, people are closed because of whatever heard or whatever heartbreak or whatever disappointment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, I can tell you, you know, going through my own personal, you know, challenges and difficulties keeping my heart open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter the pain, no matter how much you cry, no matter how much you shout, keep your heart open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because love can't only just get out, but it can come in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you see Ruth, she opens her heart and she allows it to stay open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though there are some, you know, there's a moment of conflict and tension and she's saying, okay, can I do this and is it going to work?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's one moment in the scene where she's like, I don't get to live happily ever after because she thinks her past is going to dictate her future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: changes everything and that's what I believe love changes everything and that's why I wanted to make this movie to let people know love is the most powerful force in the universe man I love it I love it all right so I know the couples are looking at me like our Anthony talk to the single man talk to the single woman what can couples get away from this movie couples can take away from this movie you know again we we're just gonna go back to the to the buzzword for this this episode service I love it if if if you if if as a couple
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[SPEAKER_01]: you make an individual commitment to out-serve one another.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, your relationship is going to go to another level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you, when you see this movie, you know, you see Boa sets the tone for what service looks like, you know, there's a scene we put in the film, which this isn't going to, this isn't going to ruin it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll actually give people to see there's a film, a moment in the film when Boa's humble himself before Ruth and washes her feet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The ordinance of humility, he washes her feet to say, hey, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am here to be of service to you and the core of my love for you is service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if and if I'm called to love you, that means I'm called to care for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you talk about couples, it's like, okay, the person that you say you're in love with, how deeply do you care about them and care for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I hope couples get is the magic word in any relationship.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is consideration man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When your spouse feels considered, there is nothing that they then won't feel compelled to do because oh you considered me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow you know I like this type of coffee in the morning and you put it out before you went to work or you know that you know the trash need to go out and you took the trash out to make sure I wouldn't have any problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You knew that oh wow you picked up this you know I left my you know gym clothes on the floor and you picked them up
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I think when people see boys and when Ruth and if you see the movie, Ruth and boys, I think people are going to see, wow, look at this couple that considers one another, that serves one another, that allows love to come in and out and be free flowing and what happens, their entire lives change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, no matter how much money you got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna go, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we leave, we're not taking the money what this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we will leave and what is eternal is how we loved and how we allowed ourselves to be loved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is what is so important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just wanted to make a film that could highlight that in our culture right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: thank you for making that kind of film.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things I was telling my therapist and my mom just the other, I think it's a couple months ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, Mom, I'm at a season of my life to where I'm ready to serve my family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I serve my wife.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm blessed to have kids, even serve my kids, because when I look at Jesus, he served us while leading us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you can't really question Jesus, leadership, because he was a servant leader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't a demanding leader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He set rules and stuff that we should follow absolutely, but when you look and study his life, he was a servant leader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, Mom,
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[SPEAKER_02]: This generation teaches men, or not just generation, but this modern culture teaches men, you gotta be the man, you gotta be moncho, you gotta say, this is what it is, but that's not God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited to watch this movie, because it sounds like it's all about serving each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you out serve each other?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've watched my biological father,
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[SPEAKER_02]: out serve my mother, but then I watch my mother try to out serve my father.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In two days, I can't put too much out there, but them two are disrabbit, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't eat their hands off of each other because like I see how serving each other makes them love each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been buried now, how I'm 41, so almost 36, 37 years of marriage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when I see their love for each other, it encourages me because I'm like, wow, serving each other, gotten y'all to a point to where, they're at a season of their life right now in the bond, to where my dad and mom can't live without each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, it's easy to live with someone because you can manage that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to get to the point to where you're like, I can't live without you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Woo, that's powerful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After 35, there's years of marriage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait a minute, there's something else there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, man, my dead, we're going through an interesting season with my grandparents, and to see how he serves my mom in the season, how he's backing my mom in the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I wanna do that for my wife one day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I hate the fact that it took me this loan to get to that place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're in your process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I appreciate that, too, because I'm glad that I didn't marry when I wasn't ready, because then I would have hurt someone else's heart tremendously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm happy that I've learned any vote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Last question, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, listen, the show was out September 26th.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're watching this one, when it comes out in the 24th and Wednesday, check it out on Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's already actually been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually already on Netflix.
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[SPEAKER_02]: San, hey, it's coming soon, coming soon, coming soon.
43:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I've watched all the Devon Franklin movies because he's just a brother Met is his amazing wife.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She is dope y'all listen go subscribe to his channel her channel lady She's an amazing fitness pro so I shall get you right and tight I've been looking at her videos like y'all don't want to mess with that
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been like, oh, no, no, don't get her upset.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love me, love me, love me, love me, love me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to ask this one question, which actor and actress probably shocked you the most out of all this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which one you, okay, but they, I knew they were good, but they came even like better on this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which one would you say shocked you the most?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of them are good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're all good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I made one rule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just think, I'm going to be quiet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The great Syraea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I mean, honestly, it's like everyone did a brilliant job, and I will say, you know, our three leads, I think, would probably, you know, have shocked me the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when we look at Tyler Leppley as Boaz, you look at Syraea as Ruth, and then you look at Felicia Rashad, the legendary Felicia Rashad, as Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that shocked me the most is that to see them transcend themselves,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and embody these characters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for Sirea and Tyler Leppley, they have had really great phenomenal careers and their careers on the rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the first time in a major studio film that they're getting a chance to be leading man and leading woman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you see how they step up to the plate and accept that challenge and bring so much heart and so much character and so much love and nuance to the performance is phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when she shows up on set, she just brings an aura of dignity and class and excellence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you see her performance, it's pitch perfect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is there's nothing about it that is, you know, like me, she even really need a lot of direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She just did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I look at those three, and I would say, you know, when you look at this film, you're going to see excellence on screen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to see them, you know, transcend themselves, and really embody these iconic characters that I believe will touch live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not only for this generation, but for generations to come.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man listen y'all it's on Netflix rehab link inside the show description make sure y'all go check it out Devon is no stranger here to our community So y'all know me anybody I bring on to show I ask you to buy their books by their products today.
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45:54
[SPEAKER_02]: because any time we can support our Christian community, I think we got to go over and be on, not just Christian community, Anthony speaking, not Devon's breaking, not Devon's speaking, it's Anthony speaking, the Black Christian community.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to support our community because we need Devon to keep going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said last year, I mean, next year he has a, the relationship goes coming out and you know, that's my other brother, you know, my Todd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we got to keep
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has relationships all over the place, but when it comes to hours, man, we gotta support.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go back and watch all the other videos that Devon has and share this with the world y'all All right y'all thank you so much to my friend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you my friend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate you got to come back Definitely got to bring you a might talk that yeah talk about oh, man That's gonna be it for now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we got to do that together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's gonna be dope Yeah, Mike's been on here several times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love you Mike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you on next show peace out