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Damizza on Current State Of The World, AI Music, Trump, Epstein Files, Aliens, Radio & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: special guest returning Demiza is here.
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  Speaker 2: It's a year and it's been a probably about a
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  Speaker 2: year year. Well, thank you, well, I appreciate you. I
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  Speaker 2: just want to say thank you because you have been
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  Speaker 2: not only a really cool supporter, but every time I
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  Speaker 2: call you and ask you for advice, you give me.
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  Speaker 1: Good onin How is everything, man? I know you just
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  Speaker 1: had your Synergy conference for the second year in a row.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun outdoors I saw.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of messed up with that when I
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  Speaker 2: fried everybody. Big Ones. Yeah, Big pulls me aside right
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  Speaker 2: before it started and he's like a bro, like we're
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  Speaker 2: doing this outside. But it was cool. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: had Harvey, we had Big Boy exhibit came out saw
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  Speaker 2: and that was really cool to have. Like he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: like advertised, no no, and you know, Bobby d God
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  Speaker 2: bless him, just brought him out of the blue and
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  Speaker 2: it was really really cool to have somebody that's not
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  Speaker 2: only a legacy artist but has something current out you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, to be able to talk to
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  Speaker 2: artists about everything from AI and marketing and branding and
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  Speaker 2: that you know, the deal with him and Connor and
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  Speaker 2: just what he was talking about, you know, about how
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  Speaker 2: it's a different kind of branding and to get his
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  Speaker 2: message out there. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Weren't you doing something with Connor thing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? But anyways, no you went to Ireland? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you didn't know I'm going to London though. No. Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was involved in the early rollout of Greenback, but
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  Speaker 2: I only consulted him for a little while, and then
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  Speaker 2: when the Bone project was going to get delayed, we
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  Speaker 2: just said, let's chill for a while and then when
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  Speaker 2: you guys revisit the Bone thing, then I'll hop back
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  Speaker 2: in you.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I feel like you're so knowledgeable in so many
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  Speaker 1: things on when it comes to just the news that
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  Speaker 1: you're delivering. What about the world right now has you
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  Speaker 1: the most worried? And what about the world right now
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  Speaker 1: has you the most optimistic?
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  Speaker 2: What has me most optimistic? First is the people. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the people are starting to wake up, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: see the young people getting involved and not just towing
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  Speaker 2: the party line. That's nice, That's that's what's scary. And
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  Speaker 2: the scary thing to me is loyalty to party and
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  Speaker 2: no facts to base.
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  Speaker 1: It, you know, blind loyalty to anything is scary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've never seen an administration pushed this
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  Speaker 2: hard to reverse, like the Civil War, right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean all of the race stuff and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as hard as and to talk about the
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  Speaker 2: music side of it, as hard as we worked in
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  Speaker 2: hip hop and the culture for acceptance on mass appeal,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean just seeing that, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: with sitting talking to my grandma about women's rights and
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  Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff. You know, when we
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  Speaker 2: very first got to Louisiana, we pulled into the driveway
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  Speaker 2: and she said, let me out, and it was a
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  Speaker 2: dirt road and I was like the dirt road. She
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  Speaker 2: was like no, no. Bams drove the car up and
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  Speaker 2: she sat there in a wheelchair and she goes, sweetheart,
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  Speaker 2: who would have thought little baby ree would own all
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  Speaker 2: this land? When I left here? Women couldn't own land.
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  Speaker 2: We were property and not really like, oh that's what
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  Speaker 2: you work so hard for, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So I can only imagine what she would think right now, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with the reversing of the civil rights and
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  Speaker 2: just all of it. I mean, it's just it's scary, man.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like there's a there's like like thirty things,
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  Speaker 1: but to me, like the awakening of I would say,
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  Speaker 1: like the foreign control of our government from Israel is
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  Speaker 1: like finally, like people are starting to like this. Jennifer
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  Speaker 1: Welch chick, did you do you know who that is?
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  Speaker 1: She's the blonde podcaster chick who interviewed a Corey Booker
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  Speaker 1: and she was and she she took him to town.
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  Speaker 1: But she literally was like, if you take a wake
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  Speaker 1: up Democratic Party, if you are mad, because Zoron and
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  Speaker 1: AOC and Bernie have all this energy, maybe you're the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Like wake up.
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  Speaker 1: If you're taking a PAC money, you are She said,
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  Speaker 1: you're Benjamin, then Yahoo's bitch and we're not voting for you.
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  Speaker 1: And then I don't know if you saw there was
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  Speaker 1: like a more of like a centrist Democrat guy. I
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  Speaker 1: forget where he's from. I think he was a senator,
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  Speaker 1: but he returned all his a PAC money. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: I think there's that which obviously goes into the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you know, there has been an ethnic cleansing and
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  Speaker 1: genocide of an entire people and it's continuing to happen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this same country is with our assistants overthrown
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  Speaker 1: the Syrian government and put a former isis operative as
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  Speaker 1: the president.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you look at hamas like if you look
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  Speaker 2: at Hamas and how it was funded, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Through proxies through Israel, through Egypt.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, and I mean look, okay, let's go back
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  Speaker 2: to the Kennedy assassination, right, Okay, Since then, there's been
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  Speaker 2: a very slow and deliberate takeover of American democracy.
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  Speaker 1: And between rip like ivy drip.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we're at what eighty percent of the
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  Speaker 2: Senate and eighty percent of the or eighty percent of
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  Speaker 2: the Senate and the Congress supports Israel almost if.
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  Speaker 1: Not more, right than the unit of the United States.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean a lot of people even on the
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  Speaker 2: cabinet with dual citizenships.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the ship that's wild to me is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you got like a guy like you know, Joshapiro who
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  Speaker 1: wanted obviously he's got presidential aspirations. And I'm like, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: you you fucking served in the IDF. That's a foreign military.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting, like it's a conversation to have.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of conflicts of interests. Yes, let's just
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  Speaker 2: say there's that.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously to me, like the biggest you know, just
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  Speaker 1: humanitary thing that we've ever seen as long as amalive leads.
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  Speaker 1: I obviously wasn't around World War two with what's happening
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  Speaker 1: in the Gaza. The ceasefire obviously was not a real ceasefire.
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  Speaker 1: They killed one hundred people in Gazia.
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  Speaker 2: That was a play to gainst your hostages back.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's so there's that thing. Then there's the
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  Speaker 1: Ice thing. Ice is the most you know, this big
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  Speaker 1: beautiful bill which was horseshit.
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  Speaker 2: Uh well, I mean and snap benefits. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: when this aired.
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  Speaker 1: I say, then there's that that benefits are about to
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  Speaker 1: come up. But it's like, you know, there's like this
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  Speaker 1: hyper military militarization of our country, of the surveillance state,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get into Palatineer and get into Peter Teel.
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  Speaker 2: And you know we're sending Red National Guard Guard troops.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, people, Red states. Yeah, it is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: It's a setup for a civil war. Yes, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I heard someone say I forgot where it was, but
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  Speaker 2: I saw them talking about white being the minority and
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  Speaker 2: how that scared so many people. And when Obama became private.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that what's that great replacement theory bullshit?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, but it's interesting though because then you have
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  Speaker 1: like and like you said, there's like there's people on
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  Speaker 1: both sides who have had to have been shaken up
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  Speaker 1: a little. And I think there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people on the left who sat the election out, voted
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  Speaker 1: Green or protest voted because they were tired of the
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  Speaker 1: same old shit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I switched my party. I was a Democrat
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  Speaker 2: for years, years and years, my whole entire life, and
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  Speaker 2: I went in, I'm independent, I'm good from both of you.
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  Speaker 1: And then you'll see people like you're like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green and I agree on a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, well, and like what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: The thing that got me was you ran on a
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  Speaker 2: platform of Epstein and deep state, and yet the deep
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  Speaker 2: state is all standing right behind you when you just
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  Speaker 2: worn it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like kind of like a new it's like
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  Speaker 1: almost like a well, yeah, obviously, when you got Marco
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  Speaker 1: Rubio and you got Steven Miller, and you got guys
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  Speaker 1: like that, and uh, what's the fucking dude with the
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  Speaker 1: slick back hair that's balding that's always standing behind him
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  Speaker 1: like this fuck?
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  Speaker 2: Let's ring? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Lutnick?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: But then the new deep state low key is like
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  Speaker 1: these tech dudes like Peter TiAl is.
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  Speaker 2: Like, but they're the same. It's but it's all from
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  Speaker 2: the same the right, do you know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 2: And a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of those guys who donated to this new ballroom bunker
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  Speaker 1: bullshit for.
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  Speaker 2: The same guys who were donating to Joe Biden. And
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  Speaker 2: but that's what I'm saying is people are starting to
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  Speaker 2: wake up to the fact that it's the same bird,
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  Speaker 2: same shit, different wing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think that when you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I obviously don't agree with Tucker Carlson er Candice owns
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  Speaker 1: on everything, but I.
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  Speaker 2: At least Sander's some fire right now she's cooking.
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  Speaker 1: But I can at least respect the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: have a they have beliefs and morals that they don't
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  Speaker 1: budge on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're not going to get that in media today.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you really look at it, I suppose
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, somebody who's not with us anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of felt like, you know, he was very much
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  Speaker 1: towing the line of whatever the administration would want.
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  Speaker 2: True, you know, and I'd be like, oh, this guy's
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  Speaker 2: just a ship, like you know, like, well, you start
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  Speaker 2: to realize how media has evolved into becoming the show,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like what eight people, ten people,
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  Speaker 2: control ninety.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Fox Murdock had Ruper Murdoch and.
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  Speaker 2: Now Google and TikTok and Scary Place Man.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's just it's like it's an interesting thing too,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like it's very it.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like we're at the beginning of like whatever
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  Speaker 1: happens when Terminator is coming, or like a demolition Man
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  Speaker 1: type movie. It feels like this is the ground floor
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  Speaker 1: of like our society turning into that really soon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got to remember, corporations can only get so big,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what I'm saying. We dumped seven trillion
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  Speaker 2: dollars during COVID into this machine, right and somehow printed money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and somehow the next quarter they still went up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I don't understand. It's like like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean you know this, like during COVID, it was like
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  Speaker 1: there was not a housing crash, there was a housing boom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, but the thing is is, corporations can only
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  Speaker 2: get so big before there's only one other way to expand,
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  Speaker 2: and now that they're almost to the size of government.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing left to do is to take over government,
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  Speaker 2: which they're doing. And that's what's happening. Yeah, all these
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  Speaker 2: corporations like private funding of the military, wild like wild,
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  Speaker 2: And did you see who that person was?
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  Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't say I know it was
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  Speaker 1: just look into it.
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  Speaker 2: Who wasn't it's the I forgot his name and I
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  Speaker 2: want to be correct, and but look at him and
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  Speaker 2: the ties. It's the same kind of thing, Jesus. And
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: but what's nuts about that is it's a pr stunt
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  Speaker 2: because you know, one hundred and two hundred billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: or million dollars is going to pay maybe a tenth
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  Speaker 2: of our military for a week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're about to really see, uh, the because you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's only so much of like artificial propping up of
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  Speaker 1: like the stock market and you know all of these
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  Speaker 1: things that you can do when people literally like are
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  Speaker 1: going to be without paychecks.
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  Speaker 2: Well look at the Caymans right now. The Caymans were
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  Speaker 2: imploding because they they thought only you know, all of
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: these junk buys, run the AMC game stop and all
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: that stuff. Well that stuff's coming home to roost, Like
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  Speaker 2: all these reverse repos and the weird stuff they were
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  Speaker 2: doing to hide the Yeah, yeah, we're manipulation.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a very interesting Well.
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  Speaker 2: The market was thirty six trillion or thirty eight and
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  Speaker 2: that it's unsustainable. And it's so crazy to me because like.
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  Speaker 1: That was something that Trump ran on where I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think Elon's a fuck boy. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, in theory, the idea of dose before or
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  Speaker 1: the implementation of it, I'd like to point out because
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  Speaker 1: they implemented it terribly and grossly, but the idea of
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  Speaker 1: doge in theory should be a bipartisan thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So then you got this fucking psychopath who is you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably a few Yeah, he's rain Man whatever, and he's
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  Speaker 1: definitely a white fucking supremacist. But that being said, sure
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: go find government inefficiency, save money. I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the NGO shit is like there, yeah, you can
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  Speaker 1: look into that. But also you could just do one
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  Speaker 1: big cut out of the Pentagon budget and do and
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  Speaker 1: and and then all of the shit that happened with
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  Speaker 1: Doge ends up just getting flushed down the toilet with
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  Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, wait a minute, what was the dose
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  Speaker 2: thing for? Okay, so the rumor I got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of little intelligence buddies. Yeah, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: And they're all saying that the whole thing about Doze
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: was a data thing. They wanted to get into every
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  Speaker 2: computer and every nook and cranny of the government to
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  Speaker 2: see what really they had and what caused the big
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: rift between Elon and the administration was I'm over here
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  Speaker 2: launching off rockets and you guys got gravity manipulation and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that, and then all of the top secret stuff,
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  Speaker 2: all of the data, all of that to funnel over
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  Speaker 2: the pollunteers. It's great, I mean, but think about this,
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  Speaker 2: You've had infinite funding for one hundred years. Think of
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  Speaker 2: some of the stuff that we have that I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the fossil fuel lobby, the you know, all of these
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: different the military industrial lobby that has kept a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I sort I always tell people, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you guys don't understand like America we had we we
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: don't have exports. We have culture, music, movies, sports, and
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: military and weapons. Yeah yeah, and soybeans.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we anymore more.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, It's it's interesting because with the dog thing,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, this in theory would make sense,
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  Speaker 1: and then they have the falling out, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: do we all forget that, Like the richest man on
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  Speaker 1: the planet told us that Donald Trump was in the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files, and we just forgot because it was just
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  Speaker 1: like another wild Tuesday during this administration.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and and you know, it's funny because a lot
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: of people are saying now, like why didn't Obama or
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  Speaker 2: Biden release the Epstein files when they were an officer?
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  Speaker 2: There was such a big deal, But it wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: big deal until Elon tweeted about it in the second turn.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I also think there is mutually assured compromising on
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  Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle. Oh, if those if the
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  Speaker 1: if those files get released, there's gonna be people on
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  Speaker 1: the right, there's gonna be donors. On the left, there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be So it's a political tool now for the
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  Speaker 1: left and they should lean into it.
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  Speaker 2: But why are Democrats voting for it? No? Why? That's why.
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  Speaker 1: I That's why I'm like, Okay, this is good, But,
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  Speaker 1: like like you said, it's almost like they cat so
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  Speaker 1: far out of the bag. Interesting to think about this.
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  Speaker 1: The day that the Epstein birthday book came out what
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  Speaker 1: happened Charlie Kirk died?
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, and did you see this morning? What happened? No,
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  Speaker 2: Prince Andrew got kicked out of the Royal family, like
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  Speaker 2: like you have to go get it. So this is
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  Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. I'm thinking those files or something is
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  Speaker 2: going to drop soon because the Royal family is very proactive. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So two days before that book dropped or whatever from
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  Speaker 2: the Guffrey who unlived or didn't un alive, who said
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  Speaker 2: she was Virginia. Yeah, yeah, two days before that, they
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  Speaker 2: announced that they were going to strip him of the
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  Speaker 2: royal titles. That was it. But today they announced they
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  Speaker 2: killed her. By the way, that's come on Diana all
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  Speaker 2: over again. But they said that that there that he's
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: got to like move out of the entire royal fan
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  Speaker 2: like no premises, no nothing, we want nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with you. Now you've got you became a private citizen.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know, to me, it's crazy because
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the Epstein shit is so spooky and we're so like
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: what about now is out? Like this administration is so
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: chaotic that there's just so much shit getting thrown at
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the wall that like as crazy as the Epstein thing is,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: everyone's looking over here. Yeah, and it's like.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: You guys, like, let's like start looking.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: There was the author who I think interviewed Jeffrey Epstein Wolf.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: He might actually get it because now suing Milania.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: That's a move because then discovery comes because his whole
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: thing was that Milania and Trump's first date was on
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Epstein's plane date. Whatever that is. Yeah, it's it's spooky
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: shit man.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Well and you hit it on the head though, that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: on the head, the levels or the pillars to the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Epstein thing. I mean, you have former heads of countries,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: prime ministers, you have the British royal family.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Jis Lay Maxwell alone in her dad if you just
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: go jump into her who her dad was. And then
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I mean there was the former prime minister of Israel
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I think was on the plane like eighty three times.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: There's pic I mean you've seen the pictures of him
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: with it with his face covered up going into Epstein's apartment.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Wait, and I saw the day one of the big
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: media people or something their kid is named Robert Maxwell something.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I saw that this morning and it was like, why
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: is this person.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Why is she just like add of nowhere moved to
• 18:44
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• 18:46
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• 18:50
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• 18:54
  Speaker 2: when Pam BONDI was up there with the personal attacks
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and no facts.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand and how you voted for them,
• 19:03
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• 19:07
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• 19:09
  Speaker 1: on podcasts, you know, the last three years, and he's, Yo,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: we're we're gonna get the Epstein files out, like I
• 19:15
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• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Well, what happened there? You cross eyed? Fuck? Well, look
• 19:20
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• 19:22
  Speaker 2: at the base. Yes, it's it matches. So as long
• 19:27
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• 19:30
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• 19:33
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• 19:37
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• 19:41
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take, obviously. I think there's
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit of context of being lost in the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: headline about because two things can be true at the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: same time. Hip hop can be in a weird place
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, hit records being out. But
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: there's the headline that for the first time since ninety two,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I think there is not any wrap records in the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: top forty of the billboard Hot one hundred MAQUI. To
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: be fair, they had that recurrent rule change with the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: chart stuff, and so I agree a lot of stuff
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: came out that would probably still be in there, but
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it is. I mean, it's it does strike an interesting
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: conversation like where the music industry is. And I don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: even think I think hip hop in general, I don't
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: think it's a fan. I think it's great right now.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know clips and Reddy Gibbs, oh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: you know, all the dope.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I said, I think that it's the calm
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: before the resurgence, right, do you know what I'm saying? Like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and I think, look, I think there's no there's no
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: mechanism right now. The wet radio was was the mechanism
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: that delivered the music to the masses. The algorithm delivery
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: is it in a way.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: To where it's not exciting, and it's also like an
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: individualized delivery.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's like and it's fragmented. There's no cohesive thought. Do
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, there's no taste makers. There's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if you look at all the five elements,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: but if you look at like the DJ, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the DJs role in the system has been diminished so much,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I mean by the clubs and radio and mix shows
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: and all of that kind of stuff. So there's not really,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: and podcasts don't break records, do you know what I'm saying.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So there's I think that within time here and I
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: hope sooner than later, there will become a hybrid of
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the podcast the radio station, a way to deliver music better.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the point that we're missing right now.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think there is a world in which artists
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: because I think it has to take a Taylor Swift,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like a Drake or a Kendrick to truly a fuck
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you to Spotify. Do you think there's a world in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: which that current streaming system is broken and or can
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: become a bit more fair.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I think there is. I think you're right. It's going
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to take a coalition of our though yeah, I.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Feel like I don't think yeah, I feel like somebody
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of that level has to kick it off for other people.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Well, but Taylor is a product of the system, So
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: you're not that's not going to happen the Drakes and
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the Kendricks and the if instead of going at each
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: other they would go at the system. I think that, Yeah.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I think that our best bet with a Spotify is
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the Military Industrial Conflict Plex thing that they did the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: paying themselves, the bonuses, and a few of the other
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: stories that have come out that's tarnished Spotify.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Also, like the fact a lot of these companies hold
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: steak of Spotify, which makes zero. It's a conflict of interest,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: like a motherfucker.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big time. But that's also why I've been
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: such a big supporter of like Coda, trying to find
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: another way to compensate artists, like, for instance, with the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: subscriber thing that they do, if you have a subscriber,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you get a dollar a month off that subscriber, like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: which would make sense. I mean, imagine if YouTube did that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what like l Russell always says he
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: likes to he treats those platforms as like advertising to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: his brand.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Dude, he spends a grip on advertising.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But he was like, Yo, if you stream my ship,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like I get a check off it, that's fine, But
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: it's more like just like a gateway into my brand
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and my ecosystem that hopefully you come and spend money in.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But of course there's not. Not everybody has the work
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: ethic Russell has or the fan base.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So it's like, well, but he's also hit a ceiling, right,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: you know, what I mean, Russ has hit a ceiling.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of them have it. I mean they're all
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: hitting ceilings, you know, unless you cross that gate into
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the major worlds.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Almost like if you want a number one record, no
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: matter what, like it's damn near you, damn near gotta be.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: What was that country broh? No, the little the ginger
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: fool who had the guitar and the fucking Oliver Uh?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that song? Bro?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think I know he was a number So look
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: this dude just went he went viral on uh with
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: this random ass song?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Did it go number one?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Oliver Anton went number one? It's called Richmond, North of Richmond.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: This this fucking state independent all way. Yeah, this Joe
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Kids number one and no label at all. No, he
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: refused to sign Wow, so we finally got one.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: He Actually the crazy shit is he could have toured everywhere.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I think it was either Age or Live Nation. We're
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: trying to give him a bag and he was like, nah,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I just do the shit I want to do.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: When I want to do it. I'm like, damn, that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: makes me want to dig deeper though, right, because there's.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Now he had this record and like he has other
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: big records, like he's got three million monthly listeners. But like,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, from that record to everything else, it's definitely
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: But that's dope.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we got one, I mean I mean,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: because I was of the thought that you would never
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: see that happen. Yeah, I mean, I think it's damnar
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: impossible to be honest, like, but I mean, I was
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: always saying that it's damn near impossible in this viral
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: world that we live in that something would not gain
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: enough momentum to get out of the ecosystem and into
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the real world.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You know what the consumption spa. It's like, even if
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you have a record at radio, right, if you say, okay,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the streaming is there, the tiktoks are there, the concert
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: tickets are there. Even if you're independent, you got to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to say, okay, well, if I really
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: want to be like number one on Billboard.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: You kind of need radio.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Like that's I always tell people radios that should be
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the last step you worry about.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Like if everything else.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Is in tune and the momentums in the right way,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and you're like, we got one, and metrically it shows,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and then you bring in radio to kind of finish
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: with the gasoline poor, you know, but otherwise it's like.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it fills in the cracks. But what people don't
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: realize about radio is only twenty six percent of Americans
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have data plans on their cell phones. If you go
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: outside of the metro current, yeah, ninety six percent of
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: America still listens to radio. But if we are spoiled
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: in the metros because we have full coverage of internet
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff. But if you go
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: to inner cities, liquor stores, all of that kind of stuff,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: they aren't spending their money on data plans to listen
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to YouTube, right, you know, or Spotify or whatever it is.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I was and rural free. Well, but you know it's not.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: YouTube's murdering it right now but big time, I mean,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and they're just starting to pay artists work, which is great.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is is as far as nooks
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and cranny goes, and as far as coverage Internet, Wi Fi,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff, there's no way to
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: get into the nooks and crannies of what incubates our
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: music better than radio, and it's superpowers. It's free and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: accessible everywhere, and like I was saying in Louisiana when
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: when I was out in the country, if there was
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: a cloud in the sky, we didn't get internet, TV nothing.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: We got radio, right, you know what I'm saying. So,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are still dependent on
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: radio outside of the metros, and people don't realize.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: That what is the because you know there is Like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I was just having this conversation with my boys, they
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: make beats and ship, and they were talking about how
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: crazy and spooky the AI app where you could just
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: type in like a description and it'll crank out a
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: song for you.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what's that you called soro sono? So what
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: is it? Well, there's there's one for the video side,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: not the video one.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: It's the music one, right, sooner there's a music one,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but the video. The music one is crazy, like I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's there's the fifty cents, right, but
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: there's like you could just type in like I need
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a beat that sounds like the Alchemist and Mad Live
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: could have produced it and boom boom boom. I needed
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: to be this BPM and it'll just crank out like
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: ten options for you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the they're all good. It's nuts.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And so it's like, there's got to like we're gonna
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get to a point where it's sampling. It is gonna
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: be like that, And that's what my homies were saying.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, eventually you're gonna have to cause you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: could get stems for the beats, like they'll stem out
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: your beats off the AI.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Well, this morning the news came out that Universals settled
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: their lawsuit with Udio. They finally settled that, but they
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: settled it to create a new platform. Do you see
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, which will give Udio access to Universal's cattle.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: What is that? It's one of those sites, you know
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: what I mean, that AI music generation site. But it will,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: from what I can read between the lines on it,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: it will treat it like sampling, you know, like you
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: can make a song, but it's gonna credit what it
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: took it from, right, you know what I mean? And
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: that's what we've really been trying to get to. I mean,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the majors, all of them, Warners, Sony and Universal, sued Udio, Suno,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff, because basically they were
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: trolling the YouTube and using that to train their models.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you if you damn Like I was
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: thinking about this, I was like, yo, someone just created
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a YouTube channel and made like the quirky, like fifty
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: type songs.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: What you're taking like a radio guy, look at you?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You just get a crazy YouTube ship crack like. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: think there's also they're forcing like think about it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: If you're like, all right today, I want fucking NWA
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: straight out of Compton, but I want it to be
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenties.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I like the yacht right. Have you seen the yacht
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: rock guy? How he makes the songs yacht rock?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Shout to the yacht rock.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like you can do old channel and
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: then it's just you know.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: It's interesting to say even like you know who I'm
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it's probably aready happening. But there's that lo fi like
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: subgenre of music where they it's just instrumentals and like.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that Harvey said at the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: seminar was that And and Harvey part of he's one
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and a half of with him and Damon Thomas, one
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: of the biggest producing duo is every Beyonce all of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that shit. He said that he in the studio even
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: with him, there's no instance to where Ai isn't being
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: used even a little bit, whether it be a hook,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: whether it be a lyric, whether it be a sample,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: whether it's something that every studio is using AI in
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: some way, shape or form. So it's just going to
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see. Now how they you know, if
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: they take it from one hundred samples, how do you
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: say it's Yeah?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: My thing is like, how do you how are you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: able to use it as a tool instead of using
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: it or depending on it to where like whatever the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: soul of the music is like taken out well and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: it's do people give a fuck?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think. Look, that's the thing though, is I
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: don't I think both sides don't give a fucking certain contexts, Like,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of the money is coming from
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the data and the product sales. Okay, that's how the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: record companies are really making the money these days. So
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: if they can have something catchy that lasts thirty seconds,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: that's all the content they need to get you to
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the next spot, you know what I mean. So remember
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: back to the future when I think it was Back
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: to the future where they're playing the commercials as the records. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: you know, and that was the the nostalgia of it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I think if you applied that to current times and said, okay, well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: if I could make a quick you know right, thang
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: out of this and keep them there long enough to
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: do it. But I also think that the platforms are
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: going to eat themselves. I mean people's attention span. There's
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with Vinyl coming back and CDs coming back and all
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: of the stuff. I think you're right, Like I said,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it's a calm before the storm, before the resurgence of
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: lo fi, and that means going back to human created
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: ship and the underground movement.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a trendy like.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, an underground movement, the indie movement, and I think
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: that's where it's going is you know, remember like the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: backpack phase, you know, and and like the Far Side
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: and all of that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I think that that vibe mass appeals. Naza's labels doing
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the crazy. They've put out some ill ship this year.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: They got this like let what is it like the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Something Legends, So they put out a mob Deep album.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: They got a big l album coming out tonight, ghost
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Face Killer Ray Kwan. So they've been like doing like
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: these dope like they're doing a DJ premiere NAS collap
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: album in December, so shouts to mass appeal NAS and
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the guy Peter over there got to figure out.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: NAS is killing it right now doing stuff on the billionaires.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: What's so funny is like back when there was like
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the Beef, Yeah, I was like everyone always would be like, yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: but Jay's got more money, and I'm like, like, look,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: jay Z probably to this day still has more money.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Let me be clear, But it is interesting that like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: NAS was just like quietly investing invested in the ring cameras, Like,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: like NAS that a casino coming, I.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Mean not just a casino, like it's a like two
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: billion dollar project, crazy, And he's investing in the Hip
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Hop Museum at the same time, which is really really cool.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You know, NAS has always been great. I love NAS.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: What has since since you've been able to come back
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: onto the scene in terms of like interesting year by
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the way for you.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from where we sat last year and that now,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: it's been a lot has happened.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you do a lot of consulting stuff right now.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: You almost bought a radio station.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I heard almost but uh, and I'm going to London,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: uh to talk about the second book.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So so you're going to do another book.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do another book.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Is it going to be autobiographer or is it going
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to be more'n.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little bit of both. It's about
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: the return. And you know, because when we sat last time,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: where I was sitting, people were telling me you'll never
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: make yourself relevant in a space, you know what I mean,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: like in social media and that kind of stuff. You're
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: an old radio guy that time has passed. Da da
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: da da da. So in the synergy marketing of it,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: and you know, using Instagram instead of a radio signal
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: and during a minute and thirty radio breaks, there's something
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to the consistency and repetition breads familiarity. Familiarity breeds a relationship,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: relationship reads steamwork, and or synergy and synergy when it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: games formula, well.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: You've pretty much like applied your theory to your own content.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And it's a lot of people. I mean a lot
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of people. I feel like I get a lot of
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'll see headlines and stuff, but
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: then I'll see you talk about it and I'll be like,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: oh okay, I get it now, Like.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Well, look, you know it's funny because look, I'm not
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: always right. I'm not always trying, you know whatever. Whatever.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It's more like I'm a radio DJ at the end
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of the day, right, and we're only right. I mean,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: come on like a broken clock twice a day, right,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I just get on
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: there say whatever it is, and a lot of it,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: like even with the breaking news thing and stuff like that.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, friends would hit me up and say breaking news,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: and I just thought it was funny. So I just
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: kept going, you know what I mean. So I don't
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: know it's working, but it's more fun than anything to me?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Because you have done a really good job of covering
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: political stuff that's just frustration. But for you, I think
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I remember when you had first started to kind of,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you know, really kind of be consistent with that, seeing
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: some of the comments where people like, yo, man, stick
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to the music shit.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: You know what. One of the things that you said
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to me that really inspired me is I made this.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I was talking about the red and blue thing. I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: was talking about how Republicans, democrats, bloods and crips, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you called me on it and you were like, Yo,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that was really cool. I got that. I was like, fuck,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm onto something and it actually made me really
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: think about that, So thank you for doing that.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think like, at the end of the day, man,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: we're in a situation where the device of this is
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: at an all time high, and you know, the tribalism
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is a spooky thing to be wrapped up in, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like it's so crazy right now that like I get
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: it if you're like, you know, if you are on
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: that side, fuck you, I get it. It's bad what's happening.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like I just feel like,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you know, we're very much being pulled apart at the
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: threads well of humanity and it's all to me, it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: purposely contrived identity shit. So they want us to hate
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: each other because of where you were born, or what
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: your religion might be, or who you're fucking and sucking
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: who the fucking you know, who your parents, whatever it is.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They want to do.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: That while they're getting away with a bag.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: They're taking all of the money.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean there there is a class thing. Yes,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: it's a classic thing of you know, the government for
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: a long time with the CIA was doing this. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: forgot the name of the project that was the propaganda project,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: you know, where they would they would literally pit us
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: against each other just to get things past. You know
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I mean it is a very very you know it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: it's it's a smart thing to do if you're.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Just exploiting our differences to get away with a.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Bag hun they're making agree they're making because most people
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: agree on about eighty percent everything I want your fucking
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: neighborhood say. If you want to be able to feature kids,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you know, all that should we all can agree on.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It's the twenty percent that they turn up well, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Of it's manufactured. I mean, if you stop and think
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: about it, there's only a what was it, it's it's
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: one percent of America is immigrants, right, do you know
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Illegal? You know what it is? It
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: is like eleven million or something or something really dumb.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It's really not that big a deal. Immigration is really
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: not that big a deal.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I even think about how and I think the Democrats
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: were stupid for leaning into this. But it was a
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: huge talking point in the election, the trans thing where
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, yes, I feel like people who have,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, common sense and to me, this is
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: not a transphobic take. If you were born a male,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you should not compete athletically against genetic females. Now, how
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: many times has that actually happened? And how many people
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: does that affect? But then it becomes this huge talking
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: point and it low key like they leaned into it,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: so they had the commercials run in and then if
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: you're the left, you're like, yo, guys, what do we like?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Like they're they leaned into that shit in a way
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that you're like, yo, like, this is not what we
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: want to hear about. We want to hear about free
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: health care. We want to hear about how the fuck
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: like groceries can go.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Like why is like?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And then and then the rights like they got their
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: red meat because they could turn this shit up. And
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's like, in retrospect, if you're somebody who voted for
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Trump because you felt like, man, some of that shit
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: on the left just got a little too weird for me.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Now you got to kind of look in and say, like, Okay,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the stuff that you thought might have got a little
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: too weird for you, Like does that actually affect your.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Life or anyone who you know?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Is like the chances that it does is slim to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: none as opposed to all of the crazy shit.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: That's going on as we speak.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Like I know a lot of Latino dudes who voted
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: for Trump because they're like super conservative. They don't want
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: they I don't want dudes going in girls' bathrooms, And
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bruh. But now, like your family might be
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: getting torn apart or someone you know might be getting you.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. So it's like, at what point
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in time.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Are you like, you know what, This is a purposely
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: contrived issue that has been you know, turned up on purpose, and.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: You got to look at what are they trying to
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: distract you from. Look at like school shootings for instance, right,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: do you know what I'm saying, Look at the demographic
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of school shootings, you know, and then look at like
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: how many there are, you know, and look at how
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: many are created, or how many incidents there were with
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: immigrants in school shootings, none, you know what I mean.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like, look that base loves to point the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: finger at things and say you're doing exactly what they're doing.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: And they're also supposed to be to me, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about like I held my tongue when
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk died, because I was like, I don't have
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: anything to add to this conversation that won't get people
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: mad at me, or.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I wish I would have said the same thing.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But but what my thought process was obviously, don't deserve
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to think you deserve to die, you know. Well, my
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: thought process was just from seeing the outpour of people
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: who I know, you know, posting about some guy they
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, and how like going after people's jobs and
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: shape well not even that, just like just like, you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the humanity and this is this is where society is,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you know, and then getting in their Christian bag with
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: this guy and and uh and I'm like, yo, I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: haven't seen you post anything about what's going on in Gaza.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: To me, the selective humanity and the selective Christianity.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Christianity thing is what's really getting me, because it's not
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: you guys aren't even real Christians. Well and you don't.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: You probably have never even read the fucking Bible.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, look look at Ted Cruz up there talking
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: about Israel. If you support Israel and wrong Bible versus
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, I mean, and just the Bible
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: thumping period. It's like, if you know anything or have
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a relationship. I went to Christian in school, so if
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know anything about God, I mean, look at a
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: lot of these churches with the Bentley's and all of
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: this kind of shit. Jesus would walk up in that
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: motherfucker melt all of this down and say give it
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: all to the poor.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Look at the Pope. The Pope is like, yo, you guys,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: like the Pope is putting pressure on American cardinals to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: pressure the American government to relax on how they're treating
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: people that if it Like again, let's be clear, let's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: be clear, I am not a religious man. I do
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: not subscribe to any religion. I would damn near say
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I'm atheist. But I've done enough you know, mushrooms to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: think there might be something out there. With that being said,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I do know the Vatican Atholic Church. They're fucked. They've
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: done some crazy shit themselves covered up a lot. Anyway,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying is you have all these people who
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: are supposed to be Christian or are supposed to be
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you know, people of God.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: But but Brinder goes out every time they get together,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: even that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Aid, which is funny, by the way, but just the
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: fact that, like you're selective on when you're Christian.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying is it's hypocritical. I mean,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: even with My biggest problem with the administration is the
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: level of bullshit. It's you know what I mean, it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: like crazy gases down ato two dollars. You know, you're like, it'
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: like what gas station is that? You know what? Like
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to go to that grocery store. The Portland
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: shit is so funny. I mean, oh, and like we
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: were talking about that Portland. Portland's on fire. There's no
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: what did he say, there's no cars or there's no something.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they're going like, what the fuck?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: It's what it's By the way, it's a block because
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: my boy Phil Becker goes out there and he's like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I think their show him footage of when it was
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: on fire. He's like, let's be clear, all of it.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: It was on fire. But right now it's fine.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: But I mean, think of the history. They show us
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the moon landing, they show us nine to eleven, they
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: show us JFK, they show us MLK, they show all
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: of this shit. Then say Okay, we faked all this shit.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, you know what, we don't even
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: need to be expectacle spectacle anywhere. We'll just lie to
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: your face in real time. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And there's no reason to do the big shit. Do
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you ever.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Feel like just just disheartened by what's Like, Like there's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: a time last week or the week before I hit
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: my group chat with my guy James and my producer
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: because we always send political stuff and I'm just like, guys,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I just want to go lay down in a corner.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: It's getting icky. It's fucked right now.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, when I saw the President get off
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: of Airs Force one and start dancing to YMCA in
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: South Korea, I was like the symbol of integrity, the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: golden egle, the bald eagle, the United States image. It's
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: not the village people, right. That was disheartening to me. Yeah,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and to hear what some of the people around you know,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I'm disappointed in America because the America that I grew
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: up in was you know, the top gun Maverick, right,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like we were supposed to
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: be the good guys. Yeah, we're the good guys like
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: we don't. We're the ones that would pay maybe and
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: save Gaza. Maybe you know what I mean, Hey, you
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: know what, maybe we able. And that's the other thing.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I think there is an awakening where I think a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people are realizing, like, maybe we haven't been
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: the good guys. Hmmm.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And then you start going back and looking at all
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the regime change wars and you know how many civilians
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: got killed in Iraq and you're like.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Well and look at the MLK stuff, look at the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: JFK CIA killed. I think the government wasn't. I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: the people are rightly good. No, I agree, you know,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but that's what I mean. I mean
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: in terms of like our position in the world.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, like you.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Know, I'll tell you this. In Louisiana, I got along
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: with everybody until we start talking about politics, like that's
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: the trigger. It's these ideals of it's like gang pop.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: That's why I said the Red and the Blue. It's
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: either you're a Crip or you're a blood. You're a
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Republican or a Democrat, and there's nothing in the middle
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: when it comes to that.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: But if you're Kendrick Lamar and you're a kid in
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a mad city.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But that's what I mean. We all are. We are
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the kid in a mad city until you start gang banging.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? And that's what I'm
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: saying is you know, there is no such thing as color.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Your lungs are the same as everybody else, Your brain's
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: the same as everybody else. It doesn't matter.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: And this is my whole point, is like a.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Biomechanical suit and electricity.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: There was a funny there was a funny meme that
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: came out and it was like, uh, Bill Clinton is
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: in the in the Epstein files.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Oh no, what what.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: What am I gonna do with my Bill Clinton bumper
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: sticker and flag and red hat and and you know
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: all this shit. And it's like, because I am very
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: much like I think Joe Biden fucking was fucking horrible.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Like I did not think he did a good job.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I think, but wait, let me ask you a question.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question with that. See that's
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: perception and reality. Do you see what I'm saying?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Like he did not do a good job, but the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: economy was great for sure.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I mean in terms of like I just can't he
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: was just on autopilot. I just can't in good faith
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: fuck with somebody who like greenlit deathnic cleansing of a people.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So for me, that was kind of like.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: But that's more the system did that. Yeah, I'm not
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: saying but not just yes, he had to be the
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: final rubber stamp. But what I'm say, my.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Point is this, My point is this. I feel like I,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I used to be someone who was super
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: captured by I was like a blood or a crip, right,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I'd just be like, you know, I would even say
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: all the way up until like twenty twenty, you know, like,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: but I do think that there was so much stuff
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: where you were just like, hey, can't we just call
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: out politicians when they fuck up, no matter what side
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: they're on. Let me ask you a question, Yeah.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you seriously. Do you think it's all
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: a show?
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Kind of?
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, because it's the same lighting people, it's the
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: same script people, it's the same systems and same propaganda,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: same narrative, same everything. But it's it's almost like it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: a bad movie script. Do you know what I'm saying,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Like the way that they do it and all of this,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: It is all a show because I do think especially
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: when it comes to like the big tech bruhs who
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: would have donated just as much money had Kamala would
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: have won, et cetera. Whether it's in the video, whether
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: it's Peter Tiel, whatever. But I do think when the
• 51:07
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  Speaker 1: That's my thing, is I think when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: She didn't think about this. Antarctica. Lebanon is still getting bombed.
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  Speaker 2: lights and nothing flashing. And it was going so slow
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• 55:48
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting too that like while the world is
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  Speaker 1: like chaos, they slipped the world at list thing going on, Well,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: they'll slip like the little Yeah, UFOs are real, but
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  Speaker 1: it's like there's so much other shit. People are worried
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: But for the last hundred years they've been doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but everything that. But that's why I say,
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  Speaker 2: is it all a show? Because if you go back
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• 56:20
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  Speaker 1: I think everything entertainment wise, from.
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  Speaker 2: These major the movie division of all.
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  Speaker 1: It all just psychologically prepares us for the inevitable.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's it.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Did you watch the Netflix movie that the Obamas produced? No,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: So essentially it's about what were to happen if a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: foreign country took all of our Internet off of the
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  Speaker 1: there was a civil war when there wasn't, and how
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  Speaker 1: America would destroy each other from what then because they
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• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Now? Was that prophecy or this this?
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: This was like, Oh, I was like, uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: One it's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Like imagine if we woke up one day and there
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck has been going on with these fucking
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• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Noticed that what was going on in a Jersey? They
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: still have not told us what the Miami bro Remember
• 57:28
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  Speaker 2: Did you see Uh?
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Did you? I don't know if you caught the Maybe
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: like two years ago there was a UFO thing in
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Vegas in the backyard of our Mexican family's house.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: That one. And there was one above the strip club,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: not that I saw that one.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a good strip club in Tampa.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to Magic City? It's called.
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  Speaker 1: In Tampa, there is a strip club and the VIP
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  Speaker 1: is a fly alien. It's a flying saucer. It's called
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  Speaker 1: Odyssey two thousand and one. It's on deal Mabray Road
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  Speaker 1: and the number is my boys. The manager good Spot.
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  Speaker 1: Good Spot ain't seating up though. You got to sneak
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  Speaker 1: your liquor in there.
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  Speaker 2: I've never done that when I've never done that. Yeah, disclaimer,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I do think the UFO thing, I
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I know is real. I agree, but I agree with you.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's coming out of the ocean. I think, look,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I think that the what I think is an Antarctica,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: though I think it's attached. I think whatever is happening
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: through the ocean is deep enough to go through. I
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: think I think, see this is where I'm starting to
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: think of the flat Earth thing. Do you know what
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm starting to think that this all is
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: some sort of alien and farm or some shit like.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: This is the whole thing about the Earth being round
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: and the horizon thing. I was with a pilot one
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: time and I was asking him. We were flying on
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: a private jet, and I was like, so was the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Earth flat or something? And he was like looked at me, like, bro,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: he goes, let me just show you something about the horizon.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Here he goes, if it was round, we would be
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: doing this, you know, this kind of shit. And I
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: was just like the pilot telling me this. You know,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I think that a lot of it is interconnected. They
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: spent the two trillion dollars on tunnels and shit like that.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more going on underground than
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: where well, but I just don't know if it's a sphere,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: if space. I mean, look at what they've fed us
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: about space. I mean the Van Allen Belt and trying
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: to get through that in a ten can to the moon,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: even the and even this at List thing.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: What's at Listing?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: You haven't seen the three eye at List? Shit? Well,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: apparently there's a spaceship or a comet. Oh that's coming
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: that is around the sun right now, that's it's But
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: they Japan released government shut down, so NASA shut down,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: so we aren't seeing anything from our side of the world.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: But Japan released a video of this thing and it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: sure as hell don't look like a comet, and it's due.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Boogi sphere whatever the hell
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: that was, you know, And.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Did you see this painting that that came out that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: was over nine hundred years old and it's got a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: UFO in it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: But did rewind for just one second, one of the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: bugest fear Did you see what? Now? Okay, there's this
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: ball that they found in like it was Brazil at
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: South America. It was flying around, it was like a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: football in the sky kind of thing, and it hit
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: an electrical line and then fell. Now that they've researched it,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: it's twelve five hundred years old. But the markings and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: stuff they put in the Google Quantum computer and it's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: like the the star map to space and like, you know,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: all of the physics and all of this stuff in
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: one thing. And if you were going to put a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: message in a bottle and send it to somebody and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: say here's all the answers. It was all on this
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: fucking sphere, you know what I mean? But how do
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: you spell that? Boog? Is fhear? I think? But look
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: it up and it's interesting.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Did you see the new planet they just found. That's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: just all water. No, they just found a new planet.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: It's just the ocean.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: But look what they say about space and the ISS
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: and maybe turning off the feeds and you see the cords,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: and I mean, it's all it seems all staged.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's a problem when NASA isn't as capable
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: as elon Musk.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing too, you know that trips me
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: out too. We can agree on Antarctica and every country
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: can agree on putting a Starlink satellite over their freaking country.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: That's the two things that we can all agree on,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: do you know? So it's like, what I mean, what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: is it really? You know? I mean, we are dumb
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: monkeys at the end of the day, We're we're whatever
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: we're told.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: It's illegal to go, right if you just wanted to go.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, so there's a many years ago there was
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: a I think it was like John Glenn. It was
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: one of the space guys that went there and literally
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: had a heart attack and said, like what I saw
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: like is freaking crazy. And when he got back, they
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: had a United Nations meeting and everybody in the United
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Nations and every country agreed that one we're putting a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: base there, and two everybody's got to stay out of there.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: So whatever's going on in Antarctica, how would you cover it?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: You'd make it cold as fuck, and you'd have an
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: international treaty treaty that that's the one place you can't go.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: So while we're sitting here bitching about nuclear weapons and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: fighting over race and bloods and cripshit, what's really going on?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance that there's lizard people
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: or alien alien folks.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: I think there's interdimensional beings and they could probably take
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: on it anymore.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like if there were to be some
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: alien fools, but.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I did see your eyes do this instead of like
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I think you're an alien? I mean.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: First bet Oh, yeah, Peter til.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, Peter Teal is I mean both, I mean Elon
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: and Peter Teal. There's something else going on there. I mean,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I mean Peter til did this armageddon thing and.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Antish, Yeah, Well, I'll say Antichrist conversations you.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: But you know, but look at it like this. If
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: you were an alien and you were going to introduce
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: yourself to the Earth or start down that path, what
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: would you do.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: You would try to kind of position yourself as.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: You know, chat GPT. Yeah, that's true. You'd start with
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the chat GPT so that you could have a that's
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: the handshake. And I think it's going to evolve into disclosure.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: That's why I think it's really happening. But I think
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: there's probably a bunch of different species. But you have
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: to remember the if we believe what we're told the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: universe is millions and millions and millions of years old.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: If we're the only things in this vast thing that's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: million of years old, and the most we.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Still haven't figured out what's going on the Bermuda Triangle man.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Disappear when I think that's just crazy. When but what happened?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: What what about that one plane that could never find
• 1:04:11
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• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Airline, that thing you didn't see the video of that. No,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: it was a little biggest fears things that were swirling
• 1:04:18
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• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Not these stuff man, insane. What do you
• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:27
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• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I think it will happen. I think I think that'll
• 1:04:31
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• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:38
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• 1:04:44
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:51
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:04
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:30
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:53
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• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I I don't know what really happened. I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: know that trapdoor and a bunch of the other stuff
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense them submitting over it and not
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: taping it off. But I look, I think that when
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: the assassination attempt on President Trump turned the sentiment for him.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people decided when they try to kill him.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: But I also, we're going to vote.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Well, And but I thought the timing was a little
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: bit weird about how right when the bullet went off,
• 1:06:28
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• 1:06:31
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• 1:06:36
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• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:46
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• 1:06:48
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• 1:06:52
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• 1:06:53
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• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: we hear like for instance, there was three thousand people
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: at the Charlie Kirk assassination, but we see no interviews
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: of it, right, you don't see people talking about it,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, look a look at that wound,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: look at you know, the shirt thing. Look at the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: fact that they didn't tape it off or treated like
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: a crime scene. Looked that they did a gag order
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: on the three thousand people that were there. There's no addutopsy,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: there's no burial. We don't know where he's buried. The
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: wife acts really strange, and the wife had was seventeen
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: in Ukraine around traffic.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: It definitely does not behave like somebody who.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Just ended new Trump at seventeen new Epstein, new Maxwell,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: new Victoria, secret New all of these things and the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: trafficking thing came out of that. Yeah, the Victoria's secret name. Okay,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: so those guys got off. That's the guy who gave
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Epstein all his money. But you didn't hear about that. Well, Wexner,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: it's always been untouchable. But the Victoria's Secret in the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Ambercrombie and Finch thing. You didn't see that.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: How the dudes are doing all kind of gay shit
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: with the Blue Boys.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: They said he has dementia, so they were tied with
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: lex I didn't understand trial and that was part of
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the Diddy case. She is great. They gave Epstein a year,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: but did he so in jail on a prostitution charge.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: When have you ever heard somebody who did not touch
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: the prostitute and they don't have the money in his
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: hand transferring to the prostitution go to prison for four
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: years for prostitution? Yeah?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I think I think what it is was it was.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: It's It's almost like how the stock Marty is all sentiment.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I think the public sentiment for all of all of
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: the Diddy stuff, the Cassie video being out. I think
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the judge wanted to make a point.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: But look at the timing of that two weeks before
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: the trial or before the raid on his house, they
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: released that video tape. The videotape is the center point
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: of the case. Cassie, which the tape. If he was
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: on a DV case, you would hear me say lock
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: him up, right, But because it wasn't a it was
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: not a domestic balance, not going to do with that. Now,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: take the tape out of it. Cassie would have caught
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: worse charges than did he did. She was she was
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: handing the money, she was directing. The witnesses said she
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: was the one directing when Diddy was passed out on
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: ketamine in the corner, she'd still be going. Now, if
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: you're somebody that's there against your own will, you're not
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: telling hey when he falls asleep piping again, you know
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: what I mean? It doesn't work like that, right, right, right, right?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I mean Glad, I forget what Lad tweeted, but he
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: did have a good point about.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Like, where's where's the Cassie. She did immunity to testify
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: in the case, right, and then she got him there
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: and you know, and here's two bags. She got twenty
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: from the from the hotel and got another twenty five
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: from him. But here's the crazy thing. You noticed that
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Diddy didn't put on one witness, interesting, not one witness,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: and he didn't go after anyone of them. He's still
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: paying the fucking rent for the one for fifty cents,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: baby Mama, and she was sitting there testified. That's cuckish, isn't.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: It, Arry, Arry, I think I think he's gonna get
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, dude, there's no I mean, they said
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: that they'll release him in a year because he's got
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: time served. I think you're right.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. Though, it's gonna be. It's gonna
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: happen right when they need the news cycle to swing.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be like, well, they'll do Julaine and Diddy
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: at the same time.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: You're gonna do Julayne first, and then like the next
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: morning video drop and no one's gonna talking about Jlaane
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Maxwell and Julayne.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: I mean you have to remember, I mean, she got
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: busted for participating, right, And just the fact that they're
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: even discussing that is just insane to me, because, I mean,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: the fact that she got moved, right, the fact that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Trump's former personal attorney's the one that met with her
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and then she got moved.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: That's very interesting. It's we are very much living in like.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: It's a movie, a badly scripted to be movie. It's crazy.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: It is crazy. Okay, so take yourself out of right now.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Just let me ask you a question. Take yourself out
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: of right now. If you saw Donald Trump as the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: president five years ago, ten years ago, when like Obama
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: was in the White House and this movie on to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: be of today, I would you.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't watch it, probably, yeah, never have it.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: It's like idiot, Well, there's a movie, that Idiocracy movie
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: that came out with Luke Wilson in like two thousand,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: movie with.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Nate Doggs singing at rest in fuse when he was
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: like singing it with Chris Rock where Chris Rock was
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: the president.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Oh fu of State. Yes, yeah, that's kind.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Of This is soul Plane. We're watching soul Plane White
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: House Edition.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: By the way, what for you for you? I want
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: to get back to the Charlie Kirk thing real quick,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: if you had to, who would want him killed?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: And why? I don't think if you really honestly want
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: to know my opinion, Yeah, I think he's alive. I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: think he was on that jet that disappeared thirty minutes
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: after I think he went into that trapdoor. They took
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: a mannequin or fake something or a body double or
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: something and took him somewhere else. There's no autopsy, there's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: no ballistics report, there's no body. That body that she
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: was crying over was obviously fake. I mean it looked
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: did you see that thing? Though? She was crying over
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: his body and his body was laying in the cast beca.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: His hands were plastic. It wasn't even the same color
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: as a dead person. You know. That's true.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Though, that means that he had It's a show. He
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: had to have been this whole thing. His whole entire
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: trajectory and insertion into the political sphere pop culture was
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: all manufactured.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at okay, So look at it
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: like this. Yeah, think about okay, who paid the first
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars to get the college
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: campuses on their side? Is okay? So then he did it?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Did it? Did it? The second that he started saying
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: something different? And then what is the prophecy? The prophecy
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: is that Israel has to have the whole world mad
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: at them so that they can build the next temple
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: and usher in the anti Christ Jesus Christ. Isn't that
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: the isn't that the prophecy? I don't know me, but
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: that's that's that's in the that's they have to make
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: the whole world mad at them, start World War three,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: start armaged in the usher in the anti Christ. So
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I think that that's I mean, and look at it
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: like this, six months a year ago, if you so
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: much just said I don't like you to somebody that
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: was Jewish would be called an anti Semmer.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I think still, I mean, but it's there was this
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Stephen Miller's bitch ass wife.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I do appreciate the fact that now, at
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: least because they kept trying to put words in Shane
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Kuegar's mouth, because they were essentially saying, you're talking about
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: the Jews. And he's like, I didn't who said I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: don't like you?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: No, he said, who said the Jews? I said, Israel,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: that's not that's a government. Like if what is Israel
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: a Jewish state? Yeah, but Saudi Arabia is a Muslim state.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: If I say Saudi or if I if I talk
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: about Saudi Arabia I'm not shitting on all the Muslims.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Apparently the United States is a Christian state, which I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: don't think it is, but whatever it is that, I mean,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of these white fucks in the government were
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: like you to believe that Jadvans even though he's married
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: to an Indian woman and she is Hindu. With that
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: being said, if someone says something about America doesn't mean
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: they're shitting on all Christians.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Right, digging than nine to eleven in Iraq? Yeah, that shit.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just think it's interesting that nobody
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: is like the Greater Israel project is just going forward
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: no matter what, and I think the public sentiment is
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: getting to the point where I think that bb net
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: and Yahoo and his cronies that are in the Israeli
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: government understand it's only gonna get worse from here. So
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: if they're gonna go for it, they kind of have
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: to just unapologetically all fucking sales forward, go for it now,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: or it's never gonna happen because the jig is up.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Kind of Did you see Kushner and uh what's his
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: name in the interview where they said this has been
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: a two year.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course, yes, crazy. Yeah, Jed, I mean
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, it's just it is, it's it's but.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean, It's it seems all staged.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you really just listen, if you
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: if you really like get high one night and you
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: just start thinking about everything, you're just like, fuck.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Well, as much as Bam smokes, I get a contact
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: high and that was basically the whole way he or
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: so you're not a smoker man, not as much. Ever
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: since Nate Dog died, it just hasn't been the same
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: here and there, here and there, here and there.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is there? Because you were I feel like
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: you were getting in the studio a lot for a second.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listen to some stuff here, you know
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: it because it felt like you were working on a project.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Are you put a song out?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Well? We started, we started working on stuff and then
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: we got together at Record One, which is the Pharmacy
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Dred Studio and Quick Battle Cap focused timbaland Rock Wilder, Myself,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Day One, Cotazy Black Toven Twist. I mean, just all
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: kinds of people put some songs together. And recently I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: went out to go check out Strange Music Techno, went
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: to Casey I went there fucking amazing soon dude, do it?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, great guy and hospitality, a plu.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: A and our two gold records for them up there.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: My brother Ritz shout to Ritz.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely amazing place, and I went out there with Brian
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Shafting from Compact and Justin. It was absolutely amazing seeing
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: all of that, But I wanted to look at the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: distribution side too while a couple of things got finished.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: And we just finished the Twist to Tech nine record
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: with Timberland uh and Swift uh.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: And Timbland's AI artist isn't on it?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: No, this is old Timberland too on the beat. Oh nice.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: So so this is a record that's going to be
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: a deminsitive Presents Records. Are you going to do distro
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: through Shafting?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: But we're gonna I can't say yet, but we're talking
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: with Strange about doing it well because they're disge the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: same kind of thing, but I create a new kind
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: of Yeah.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Me and Brian had talked about doing a distro company,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: and fuck, man, you know, I don't want to take
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: a percentage of someone's music unless I truly feel like
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: I'm offering them a real service outside of uploading their music.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: That makes sense well, And part of the delay is
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: that is I still don't feel that there is a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: way to promote music properly.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like, what is the infrastructure outside of
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: being like, hey, yeah, I could send like hit your music,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: yeah and make sure it's on all the platforms, but
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you could do that on your own.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: So it's like and then you know, with the with
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: the with the new social media stuff with me and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: the momentum that it's gaining, I'm like, I keep pushing
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: it back because I go, look, we're getting a thousand
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: new followers a day, We're going viral with all these clips.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Why would I? Why would I do it right now?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Let's wait, let's keep building this audience and then do it.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: What is.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Your play? Because you know, I know you would. You
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: did to missus Table for two or three episodes.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I did a couple uh one of the podcast thing
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I did Warren, I did one with Crazy That's still
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: in the can from Bone Thugs, and I did uh
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: what is I guess?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: And Hale, Well, that was I was gonna ask you,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: is like seat at the table, seat at the table,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: my bead, But what is because I do feel like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: the podcast thing could be a great avenue for you,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: But I also think, like, yeah, what is I guess
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: what's going on with your brain?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I talked to a couple of people. I mean I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: even talk to Amazon about doing it with their Twitch,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: and you know, all of that kind of stuff, and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: there's some you know, it's some interesting stuff on the table,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: but I just haven't heard the right thing.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Yet, because for one, it's like you kind of do
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: a podcast in your own way every day, right, and it's.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Really the clips and the pod numbers are all going down.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: And if you did a long there's so many of them. Yeah,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you did a long form podcast,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: you just gotta know, you gotta you just gotta be like,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: hey man, we're doing this once a week no matter what.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: You can't just be like, hey.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: We're gonna throw something out and see how it does
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: and then you know. And the other thing is the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: one person I was talking to wanted to do a
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: podcast where I'm kind of the answer to uh, Nick
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Fuentes and go that hard but the other way right,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, but that's not I'm so
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: in the center with so much stuff that's true. I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: just don't.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to, yeah, and you don't
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: want to. I mean I don't want to be something
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, And also like I think the Hassan
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Piker dudes kind of in that space a bit. But
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I just think, like I wouldn't want to be anybody
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: who people look at as somebody who's left or right.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I would want, like, I really want to interview Gavin
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Newsom so bad. You should because I know I'm trying,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: because I can like give him props and then just
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: melt him.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he deserves to be melted on a lot
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: of ship. Yes, I mean, especially the fire ship.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: But it's the fire I mean, just some of like
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: I mean the COVID shit, the fire ship. That's the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: ship that he did with the UH charities.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: The I mean that.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: He is the most power hungry person president, I mean,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: but it has been a little He is the most unorganic,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: purposeful I'm going for this power graph.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Did you see when I asked him about APAK?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: That's interesting, it's interesting.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: It's interesting. It's interesting.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: You couldn't get off there, you know why, because that
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: same week it got announced that there's gonna be like
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: an anti Semitic officer at every school or some shit.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: And there's a company that back that called Jpack. And
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: in that clip you hear him say it. He says,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about a A Pack.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Jpack. I know a little bit more about and I'm like,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: oh no, but he wants to run for president.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, And this is what and this is something that
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: is to me very true. You will not win the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Democratic primary if you're owned by a Pack, And you
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: will not win the Democratic primary if you're not talking
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: that talk, that fucking Bernie free healthcare shit, because there's
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: no reason why we send howevery many billion dollars a
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: fucking year to Israel and these motherfuckers get free healthcare
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: and people here are dying every fucking day because.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: That's not all they get. They get college, they get healthcare.
• 1:21:58
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• 1:23:34
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• 1:23:38
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• 1:24:21
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• 1:24:38
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• 1:24:42
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• 1:25:17
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• 1:25:19
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• 1:25:31
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• 1:25:36
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• 1:25:39
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• 1:25:46
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• 1:25:53
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• 1:25:55
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• 1:25:59
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• 1:26:07
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• 1:26:08
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• 1:26:10
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• 1:26:14
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• 1:26:18
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• 1:26:23
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• 1:26:25
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• 1:26:28
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• 1:27:02
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• 1:27:05
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• 1:27:07
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• 1:27:11
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• 1:27:15
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• 1:27:18
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• 1:27:20
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• 1:27:22
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• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: in and buying it.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think that the whole play is what you
• 1:27:29
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• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: We're doing it to everybody.
• 1:27:34
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• 1:27:38
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• 1:27:40
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• 1:27:44
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• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: could sell farm land, right America? Oh yeah, of course, Yeah,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: so that's all he's doing it. Yeah, and it's literally
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: happening before our eyes.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, let's starve our own farmers out who
• 1:27:57
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's systematic.
• 1:27:59
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• 1:28:02
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• 1:28:05
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• 1:28:07
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• 1:28:12
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• 1:28:14
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• 1:28:17
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• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna they're going to enact martial law before
• 1:28:25
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• 1:28:28
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• 1:28:30
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• 1:28:35
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• 1:28:40
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• 1:28:42
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• 1:28:45
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• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: think before midterms there's no way we're going into the
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: midterm elections. Well, I mean because because if look look
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: at it like this, if the midterm elections happen, we've
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: already seen a revolt of the Republican Party. It's gonna
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: go blue, and no matter what, no matter what, the
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: House and the Senate would flip.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: But they're they're they're meddling there. They got Jade Vance
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: on a tour meeting with like the Indiana government trying
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: to do all these these redistricting and then the conservative
• 1:29:15
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• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're matching it in California, and they're matching
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: it in some other places.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: No, but the voting machines are now conservatively own. It's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: now called liberty voting.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Did you see the court case in Florida and the
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: one in I think it was North Carolina? About that,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: I did not hunting twenty percent of the market voted.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Like they're saying that, I mean, the last election was fixed.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is is that he won before
• 1:29:44
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• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we run we won all the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: swing stage. But I mean, just think about it. Though,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: if they if they end up executing this plan or
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: not executing this plan, with the redistricting and all of that,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: we go into the mid terms, that house in the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Sunate flips. The first thing that they're gonna do is
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• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: So and and try them. So there's go to prison.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: So there's no way in hell those midterms are gonna happen.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: I hope we get to the point because I feel
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: like we're at the split where we're at the beginning
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: of like how our world gets to like a mad
• 1:30:20
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• 1:30:25
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• 1:30:29
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• 1:30:33
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• 1:30:36
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• 1:30:39
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• 1:30:42
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• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: I think that they're they're going to do the insurrection.
• 1:30:47
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• 1:30:50
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• 1:30:53
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• 1:30:56
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• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Because he said he wants to test nuclear weapons.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we blow up another Well, that's when the
• 1:31:02
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• 1:31:05
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• 1:31:07
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• 1:31:10
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• 1:31:12
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• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Interesting? So what's next for you? What's next for you?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Done? Is it continue doing shit like this? No conspiracy, No,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: you know, just do it. Yeah, I'm I'm very uh
• 1:31:29
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• 1:31:31
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• 1:31:34
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• 1:31:36
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• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: the holidays and take whatever it is after the holiday.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any uh are you? Are you
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: still excited about the music industry right now?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: No? Because I mean, and tell look, there's there's all
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: these old guards that are still guarding their checks. Do
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? There's nothing new. They're not
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: letting anybody do anything new, you know what I mean.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: And until they open the doors and let people do
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: something different than what's being done, and the music can
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: be promoted the way that it needs to be promoted,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: We're stuck, you know what I mean. If it's, for instance,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: if YouTube could act as a radio station, great, If
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: a radio station could be a podcast format and break
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: records and great, you know what I mean.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: But if you had a magic wand magic toolbox, what
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: to do?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Fix? How do you fix radio? You make it more
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: of a platform. I mean, for instance, if well, I
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: might as well. But if you reverse the iHeart model,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: for instance, why are you broadcasting four thousand radio stations
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: onto a platform? Why wouldn't you reverse that? You cut
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: all the overhead of the radio stations NOPDSMDS, gms, anything
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: like that, and put the format across the whole country.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: That's what you would do.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I would do BBC basically, I think they're
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: doing that a little bit.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: It's sort of but not the like instance, what we
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: did with Power Hot and thirty two stations in the middle.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Oh ems.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, promotions, everything all done through the same thing.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's I think iHeart is doing. I think
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: they're doing a pretty good job of getting to that
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: point while still trying to keep as much of the
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: local talent that still matters intact.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I think with a lot of the AI, you're gonna
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: start seeing that because like, for instance, you could have
• 1:33:30
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• 1:33:33
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• 1:33:34
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• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I think like if you think about like like like
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: you know, shit, like I'm in a one hundred and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: eight cities every night or throughout not every so about
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: eighty every night and then the rest are on the weekends.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: But it's it's but if you could have AI in
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: every market that could do independent market research and drop
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: records in and out time stretch, it would be pretty
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: bad ass though, right.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Well that would be dope if you could Well, if
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: you can have the technology, well I think I think
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: that's the thing when it comes to programming, if somehow
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: you can do real time research through cars, through whatever
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: it is to know what the and.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Then sort of like a PPM but for music, but.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Then AI's live programming, it kind of it's probably coming.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: It is coming.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: I why is why why have a local music director
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: If you can have artificial intelligence really kind of hone
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: in on what people want to hear and the other
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: thing is this too? Is like, do you feel like
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: they're simulcast not syndicate. Could there be a situation in which,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: depending on whose car you get in, the radio.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Sounds yes, and there's also three D sound.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It was great talking to you. Yeah,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: I think, I bet, I do. I do think you're right.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: I do think. I think obviously iheart's like the Yankees.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: So they're yeah, I think it. Look, it's coming. It's
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: a time.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this is a business
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: and it is a revenue model, and I think, you know,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: you've got to kind of you have to bring worth
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: to the table to survive any industry.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: And there has to be a hybrid. I think that
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: the way that the world is going to go is
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: drink champs with a mixed show. Yeah, I think that's
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: what it needs to be. But locally relevant.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the breakfast club, right, Yeah,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: but no, right, but I mean you know what I mean, like,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: they're yeah, interesting.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: I love the breakfast club, but they're you know, I
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: used to say when I was a program director, complacency
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: is your number one enemy, and that the breakfast club
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: is just very complacent you think so, yeah, to me,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: they're relevant in their topical stuff, but they're not really.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, they don't break records. I don't think breaking
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: records is a thing anymore exactly. But I think that's
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: also what's affecting the music business is.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Earlier like the DJ shit, yeah, dude, it's almost we're.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Not making stars. But then at the music industry, I've
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: seen the.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Records, Like, let me give you an example. There are
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: records that radio will break today and it does not
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: translate to streaming number.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: If you are an artist who as a budget and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: somehow you end up top twenty at X format radio,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: I've seen it where you're like, oh, this record doesn't
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: have like a real audience outside of the radio.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Like do you know what's an interesting thing though, is
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: they told me that in ninety seven about rap period.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: But I think back then you could break an artist.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: You don't think so not you could break an artist,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: but not rap. No, but you could break an artist.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: No, I'm saying at the beginning of it, when rapt
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: discovered music. Oh you're about early early early rap. Yeah,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: it was all rock radio. You could not sales, you
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: But I just feel like I feel like when I
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: was coming up, like radio mattered in a way where
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: you would discover music on the radio. Fuck yeah, Nowadays
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: it's like if I hear something on the radio kind
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: of it doesn't mean I like it, you know, even
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: like a song could be heavily shazamed in a certain
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: market where it's getting played and the conversion rate to
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: streaming apps isn't there.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Again, but you're also looking at the platform of radio
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: as its incarnation now, right, do you know what I'm saying? Like,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: for instance, when we were doing radio, it it wasn't
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: it was the platform as well as it was radio.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying? Because we had power
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Hot and the thirty two stations, if we ran up
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: in smoke across the whole thing, we could sell out
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  Speaker 2: a tour, when before that they said rap can't tour, right,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: that's I think that's how it's positioned right to the art.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I even think too like it. And like even
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  Speaker 1: with that, like nowadays video shows kind of dying the
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  Speaker 1: radio concert Like there used to be all these cool
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  Speaker 1: concerts all over the country. That happened yearly, but then
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  Speaker 1: the festival festival kind of came in. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of plus line. But I know, like
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  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter is christ I even think, like
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  Speaker 1: w l D in Tampa, which I do nights at,
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  Speaker 1: we had Wild Splash.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a plug? Was that a plug?
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  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, shout out to fucking Tampa's. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's my second home, It's like my third home,
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  Speaker 1: fourth home. I got a lot of homes l I
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  Speaker 1: lived there for a few years, but uh, we had
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  Speaker 1: Wild Splash going on for twenty years, and they didn't
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  Speaker 1: do Wild Slash last two years because there's so many
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  Speaker 1: festivals in Florida that have non competes and and these
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  Speaker 1: proximity clauses, and then the festivals are paying artists so
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  Speaker 1: much above what they're asking for. Why would they do
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  Speaker 1: a fucking radio show and take like what they're asking
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  Speaker 1: for a little less.
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  Speaker 2: I've missed the powerhouses. The coolest thing about powerhouses and
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  Speaker 2: our stuff issue just never knew what you were going
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  Speaker 2: to get. Like we had Biggie come out in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the freaking thing. You had Snoop Dogg come
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  Speaker 2: out or Drake come out. Yeah, like we did.
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  Speaker 1: We did a real love that in twenty nineteen. We
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: did Real Street Fest in Anaheim. It was two days
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  Speaker 1: and it was a full fledged festival like iHeart and
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  Speaker 1: Real ninety two threes version of of of Rolling Loud
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  Speaker 1: Ascension and it was super successful. It was insane.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: I saw big Covid happens at the.
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  Speaker 1: And then that was it was a one and done
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  Speaker 1: because they were supposed to get they had a lockdown
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty and yeah, you were saying about.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say I saw part of the iHeart
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  Speaker 2: Festival thing Big Killing in Vegas, and I saw some
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: of the clips and stuff. It's just fucking amazing. You know.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: I have to say this, big boy. I love big boys.
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  Speaker 2: To see the reception of people even seeing him from
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: the stage in the crowd or you know, we'll go
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: somewhere together or something.
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  Speaker 1: Big like, he is like one of the most recognizable
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: dudes you could ever like.
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  Speaker 2: Them, hardest working guy I've ever seen him. He's everywhere.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: He will stay up late, he'll go to the things.
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  Speaker 1: Walking around Vegas with him is so fun because you're
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: just like it's like inspiring. You're like, dang, one day,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: I want to be like Big Boy. This fool can't
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: walk five feet. Yeah, and he's still the most humble, nicest,
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  Speaker 1: fucking solid dude like me and Big I'll have some
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: dope conversations on the side that you know, he's the
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: best he does and like you know, it was always
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: trying to evolve, just start, always new YouTube.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: I know you were on his show, right. Oh yeah,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: we did the glasses and Fuzzy shout.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: It's a fuzzy man is a connector man, the connector anyway, Well,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Uh, thank you for having me for
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: the second time. Go follow Demisa online and uh.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: And listen to bootleg Kevin a market near you. And
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: then you have this. You said that you're gonna be
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: doing a record with Tech nine and who we got
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: the first single will be uh Tembland produced it Swift
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: Tech nine and Twist. But then we also got records
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: with Quick Battlecat I mean ge style, gritty m as
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: it presents project or just day one and I did
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: it together and it's it's called synergy between the two
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: of us, and it's it's fucking amazing and there's I
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: might finally get Quick and Warren to do an album,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: which would be fucking awesome. Yeah. Imagine, Like so Quick
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: and Warren are two of like my best friends, do
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So all the time I'm
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: trying to get back to be in the studio with
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: them watching make beats together. Oh god, you know Quick
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: is the one. I mean, Warren is absolutely amazing not
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: only is a producer but just as a friend. But
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: Quick is the fucking mad scientist. Yes, ye like, and
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: I'm in awe every time, Like I learned something new
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: in this last time. When he came by, I was like, look,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: I need help with mixing this record, and he goes,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: you fuck you, miss You're gonna do this yourself. I'll
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: sit here on your shoulder. But he mat it well,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: he directed it. Do you know what I'm saying. But
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: he made me do it, you know what I mean.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: Like he's like, use your ears, use your ears. Great
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: piece of advice, by the way he gave me, went
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: in doubt them as a use your ears.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: Use your ears. It should be the last, the last
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: line of defense, right.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, But I thank both of them. It's just
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: like I think Big Boy and all of them. It
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: just I've learned so much from having them as mentors.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to DJ Quick. I think there was
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: somebody who says recently about like he is who people
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: think doctor dre is.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: And dude I said something about him on one the
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: TFU podcast did two hundred and fifty thousand views. He's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: the man like everybody loves Quick.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: DJ quick is there's just nothing he can't do.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Well. You know he did the drums one up in
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: the club right, did my Dad's going crazy? He's done? Uh,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: he did that R Kelly record, he did that, and
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: the Ludacris record. What was that Ludacris record he did
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: on disturbing the Piece. I think it was I forgot today.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: He's done a lot of sure, got the quick mane.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: Get down, Get down, that's okay. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, buddy, Thank you for thank you for
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: having me boom fire.
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  Speaker 2: H m hm