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#597 - Sean Paul Talks “Ginger”, Dancehall’s Evolution, Working with Beyoncé & His Iconic Movie Cameos · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: right now. All right, man, we are here with a Legend.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Bootleg keV Show with Sean Paul. Welcome, sir, bro,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for having Yes, sir man, you've had a busy
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  Speaker 1: You were just saying, how busy of a year you've had.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had a busy day all year, a busy
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  Speaker 2: day all year.
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  Speaker 1: Summertime, you and Wiz and the baby were on the
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  Speaker 1: road together. Yep, how was that?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: The Whiz is like such a professional and he's also
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  Speaker 1: all time smoker.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm sure, y'all, Bro, we connected on many levels,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't know, dude was such a fit buff.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he brings the gym, brings the gym he brings.
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  Speaker 2: He got a different boxing coach in most places, and
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  Speaker 2: so I does ship. Yeah, I took advantage of learning
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more about boxing. Cut I shot a
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  Speaker 2: box you know, yeah, Keith Tulica Heart Heart Race going up.
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  Speaker 2: But they was like, oh, you're punching wrong. I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be punching nobody though. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they taught me. And the old vibe was a good vibe.
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  Speaker 2: As we said, the tour is called good vibes only,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. How much did I do?
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  Speaker 2: I did about three quarters of a tour, so the
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  Speaker 2: last probably week and a half I was out but
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  Speaker 2: awesome vibes. And before that we were in Europe. Before
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  Speaker 2: that we was in UK. So I've been touring for
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  Speaker 2: five months this year, nine months so far, and I
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  Speaker 2: decided to text some time I come La and come
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  Speaker 2: check y out man man.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Brother Yo. The first time I
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  Speaker 1: ever saw you was watching that movie.
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  Speaker 3: Right there, the Big Bud Belly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have like a cameo in the movie
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  Speaker 1: and one of my favorite songs on the soundtrack funny
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  Speaker 1: Here Comes the Boom with DMX mud something Crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny because that movie had so much to
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  Speaker 1: do with Jamaicas. Yeah, yeah, what was what? How did
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  Speaker 1: you end up in belly?
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  Speaker 2: Very funny story. So there's a big dance that that's
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  Speaker 2: kept like probably once a year, or it used to
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  Speaker 2: be kept when we were coming up. So my brothers
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  Speaker 2: with a sound system and I'm also I'm an artist
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  Speaker 2: at the time, you know, a few songs out and
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  Speaker 2: a real hot buzz on me. So I decided that
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  Speaker 2: year I'm not going to the dance on the beach.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna chill out in the studio.
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  Speaker 3: He comes back, My brother comes back from playing out
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  Speaker 3: there and.
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  Speaker 2: Be like, Yo, you missed it. I'm like, oh, yes,
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  Speaker 2: probably the same things that happened. And he's like, nah,
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  Speaker 2: DMX was out there throw the place down. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what I really did miss it? It was the facts,
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  Speaker 2: went to sleep, got up the next morning. Tony Kelly,
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  Speaker 2: the producer of that track, caused me, yo, you're doing
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  Speaker 2: the track with Vegas and DMXP shotter check me, check
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  Speaker 2: me in the.
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  Speaker 3: Studio now, so I believe it was like nine thirty.
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  Speaker 2: I got there in the morning and we started writing it,
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  Speaker 2: writing it, and then DMX didn't come till in the evening,
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  Speaker 2: and he was just like, we was writing a girl's song,
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  Speaker 2: me and Vegas because that's what yeah. Yeah, he was
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  Speaker 2: like all other girls and your hands eye and the
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  Speaker 2: DMX came in there and I was like, okay, that's
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  Speaker 2: cool and this is what I got.
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  Speaker 3: Here comes the boom. Yeah. We was like, oh, we.
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  Speaker 1: Started taking our yo, change this word.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to be the shot.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and it was appropriate for the movie for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, we we we thought we just wanted
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  Speaker 2: people wanted us to do what we do, which is
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  Speaker 2: more of the ladies. And then we realized, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is more of a young that thing, so we went
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  Speaker 2: in with the gangs. That thing came and then then
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  Speaker 2: you end up in the movie, in the movie like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: next day I was told, oh, I think the director
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  Speaker 2: he wants you to Williams. Yeah, Hi points you to
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  Speaker 2: shoot the video with with with Vegas and DMX, And
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  Speaker 2: it ended up that we just were put in.
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  Speaker 3: The movie for five minutes or a few seconds, which
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  Speaker 3: is awesome, awesome. I think it was way better than
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  Speaker 3: a video.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's forever. That's a classics. That's a good classic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, my thirty seconds in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny too because that that's prior to like
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  Speaker 1: you becoming like a household.
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  Speaker 3: Name over here. That was one of the introductions.
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  Speaker 2: Like I like to say, there's about two or three
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  Speaker 2: songs that kind of like broke for me in the
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  Speaker 2: States around the same time period.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of them. The port them was another.
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  Speaker 1: One Oh yes, such a classic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then the next breakup like the one, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was I was just gonna say, that's the next
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  Speaker 2: breakout one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, it's crazy too, man, because you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: wild to think that it's been was was give Me
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  Speaker 1: the Light, oh one oh two?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was about that that it was recorded.
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  Speaker 1: Damn your twenty five years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so crazy vibe and it's been a it's been
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  Speaker 2: a nuts right ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting, man, because I feel like you were very
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  Speaker 1: much like responsible for bringing the dancehall sound to America
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  Speaker 1: in a commercial way. That like, obviously not to say
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  Speaker 1: that there weren't other artists that had had done stuff
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  Speaker 1: or had records here and there, but like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: were like really like the guy who became like a
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  Speaker 1: real mainstay in pop culture and just like radio and
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  Speaker 1: just like when we talk about just like anybody who
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  Speaker 1: needs a feature.
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  Speaker 3: They go to you. They are halla. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: been a crazy ride.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, you know, Shaba Ranks was before me from
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  Speaker 2: my same genre, and so with.
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  Speaker 1: Shaggy to Shaggy, yeah, yeah, Shaggy for sure, for.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but they both had to they both had to
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  Speaker 2: kind of do hybrid kind of dance hall with mixed
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  Speaker 2: with R and B. It was Johnny Gill and Shabba.
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  Speaker 2: There was Maxi Priest and that was like also you
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  Speaker 2: know R and B, and then Marvin Gaye was what
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  Speaker 2: Shaggy Shaggy broke on in the States. So the advantage
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  Speaker 2: I had, and it wasn't really anything I did, It
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  Speaker 2: was just the timing of everything. The timing came around
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  Speaker 2: where you know, people in the States started to light
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  Speaker 2: those dance hall original dance hall tracks more, they became
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  Speaker 2: more used to hearing them. And I was just somebody
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  Speaker 2: that had recorded a lot in that time period and
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  Speaker 2: it you know, have a unique voice and it just
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  Speaker 2: happened all at the right time, so divine time in thing.
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  Speaker 1: It felt crazy too, because if you think about Duty,
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  Speaker 1: Rocket was like it was like an album full of
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  Speaker 1: singles loo.
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  Speaker 2: Ki yeah, yeah, five straight singles. It was crazy, Like
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  Speaker 2: did you have any idea? Like nah, no, we just
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  Speaker 2: hope the best for each song, and like things like
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  Speaker 2: like Glue, Like Glue was about two years old because
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  Speaker 2: like Glue I recorded in Jamaica in nineteen ninety eight
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  Speaker 2: and that summer went crazy and the next summer too,
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  Speaker 2: and then it kind of died down and then it
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  Speaker 2: picked up in the States after that, so it had
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  Speaker 2: to be on the album.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean the album comes out though, too, So
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  Speaker 1: that's a four year old song if it was ninety eight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's fucking nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know my favorite what was the joint with Sasha
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  Speaker 1: I'm Still in Love with You that's my shit dog.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah, I love that joint. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people really like because it was the
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  Speaker 2: only authentic reggae track on there, and that's the roots
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  Speaker 2: of dancehall and I was kind of paying homage and
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  Speaker 2: at the time, dance I was really big in Jamaica,
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  Speaker 2: so nobody did that, and I went back to you know,
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  Speaker 2: the original reggae tracks to spit where we spit or
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say nobody, I should just say again timing.
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  Speaker 2: I caught it at the right time and not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people was doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So do you feel like because there's the way you
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: wrap like a lot of Americans will fuck your lyrics up.
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  Speaker 3: Happens all the time.
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  Speaker 1: It happens still to this day.
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  Speaker 3: Happens to my wife right now.
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  Speaker 1: They know the lyrics, but they don't know the lyrics
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  Speaker 1: exactly the same. What is the biggest mistaken lyric you
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  Speaker 1: see people like like not knowing even though they kind
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  Speaker 1: of know where they think they know.
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  Speaker 3: Some stuff about and give me the light.
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  Speaker 2: There's one on YouTube that's really funny talking about cheese.
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  Speaker 2: When I didn't say anything about cheese.
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  Speaker 3: But my wife.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: She she she met me and said, what's where's Belfazor?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what is that? She's like, you say
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  Speaker 2: it in the song. I'm like, oh, I don't what
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  Speaker 2: is that? And she played me the song and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, it was the first song I had
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  Speaker 2: as a baby girl.
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  Speaker 3: Don't cry no more.
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  Speaker 2: Tell them to say you can id to pain Alaana,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah dash show Hey that boy for sure? But she
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  Speaker 2: thought I said, that's the way above Zora, But you.
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  Speaker 1: Said why for sure?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like throw the kid you're dating away?
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  Speaker 1: Is your wife Jamaican or no?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah she is?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, come on, and she still got it wrong. So
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  Speaker 1: What part did you make you from King Son?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to uh for the first time, I
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  Speaker 1: went to a grill. Oh we get so fire.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome place.
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  Speaker 2: I personally haven't been there in almost ten years and
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  Speaker 2: it's a place I.
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  Speaker 3: Used to go every year.
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  Speaker 1: Beaches, so nice.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta get back there, man.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy is like being in the
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  Speaker 1: States and especially being on the West Coast, I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like we have access to like the greatest Jamaican food.
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  Speaker 1: So man, when I tell you.
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  Speaker 3: You tell your taste it and good stuff over it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I went to a place called the pork Pit. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my fucking god.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good jerk pork man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the sauces they got it that moment. And
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  Speaker 1: then we went to some spot just on the street,
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  Speaker 1: just on the side of the street.
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  Speaker 3: It's good. We got good street food. Our pine chicken
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: mone is kind of like a knockoff jerk chicken. So
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: jerk chicken. You have to cook it with the real spices,
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: the real wood.
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  Speaker 2: But with the pan chicken you couldt it's just like
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  Speaker 2: a street barbecue and it tastes the same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, nuts, it's the best. How do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I feel like in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five to two, it feels like dance hall reggae is
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  Speaker 1: is kind of in another like renaissance of like coming
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  Speaker 1: back in terms of like commercially, it's nice to have
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  Speaker 1: like vibes, Cartel out and yeah and superactive and huge.
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  Speaker 3: Man, it's done a lot for you know, just the space.
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  Speaker 1: Why was I saying, how do you feel like? You know?
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five? The space is right now because
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  Speaker 1: you've got a record going crazy, the Ginger Records going Crazy,
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  Speaker 1: great follow up coming bro crazy.
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  Speaker 2: If I listen, you know when people say used to
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: say to me, I was putting on a single and
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, but isn't dan sall like a summer thing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, is it all year round for us?
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  Speaker 2: So for me, it's never gone any space. It's been
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  Speaker 2: living there, you know what I mean. It's where it's at.
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  Speaker 2: But it's people's attention span and what's coming at them
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  Speaker 2: and the different stuff, and so it's to me, it's
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  Speaker 2: the public's attention and it's turning back on us now
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  Speaker 2: and that's dope.
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  Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: I think that there is a lot more players in
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: the game, a lot more producers, a lot more people
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  Speaker 2: from outside of the whole original dancehall genre community actually
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  Speaker 2: embracing and doing sounding stuff like that, and that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: That just means we're growing bigger and bigger, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm being interviewed by people who know more about the
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  Speaker 2: culture than they did back then when I first broke
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  Speaker 2: and I'm being interviewed people didn't understand like what to
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  Speaker 2: call it, and they're like, I'm like, I'm danceall and
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  Speaker 2: they go, oh, dance music.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. And you know, there's if they want
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  Speaker 3: electric music.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, and if you if if they weren't like someone
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  Speaker 2: like you who knows the ends of the different genres,
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  Speaker 2: you know what it is. But there's a lot more
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  Speaker 2: people like you, and I would say, like about dance
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  Speaker 2: all music, that the awareness is much more.
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  Speaker 1: Just call dance all reggae.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, for me, I call it reggae
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  Speaker 2: dance all because I do reggae tracks as well, right right, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like there's like a it's it's almost
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  Speaker 1: like if someone just like classified hip hop and R
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  Speaker 1: and B the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's some artists that but they're very you know.
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  Speaker 1: They're at the core there's but they're different, but they
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  Speaker 1: can't be the same.
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  Speaker 3: Yes for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because a lot of a lot of records
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: are are you know, like softcore hip hop R and B.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so yeah, you as a DJ, uh get
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: busy kind of turns into this instrumental that gets remixed
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  Speaker 1: over and over and it's one of the biggest club
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: records ever. But I just think about all the breaks
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I hear, all of the dub plates. You'll hear like
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: that record is like an all time DJ record. That
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: beat has been remixed so much.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot, you know, big up to Lanky,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: he's a producer and people who who understand the vibe
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: know that that that's just one of the most prolific
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: danceau tracks that it is. I mean, you know if
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Rihanna under replay is the same type of ridium, it
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: comes off of that.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: So does you know the Nina Sky.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: And True Yeah, that is kind of crazy.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even even Black Eyed Peas had a joint a mama. Yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: so it's the same. It's the same syncopate from those days.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: A lot of people copied and or I just inspired
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: by it, inspired it, inspired by it, and you know
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: it's led to to more of that as well. So
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: very awesome to feel that we set the trend with
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Randomly, you are in the Deaf Jam game and why
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: which was I have that and Deaf Jam Bendet on
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: PlayStation two respectfully in three. But was that cool to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: be able to like that? Was that's like such a
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: cultural game like.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: It was, and.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: You know when I did it, I remember it being
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: either Grammys or something like that, like American Music Awards.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: We were there for that period of time here in
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: l A.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: And then you know, I got the part to come,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: you know, say though things in the game, and they
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: were going to make a character for me and I
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: run into people every now and then I was like,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I was twelve.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Years old, bro, and why they make you so hard
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: to beat? Bro?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Big dudes now will be like, yo, that's the best game.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: So that feels good and it helps my music to
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: kind of reach people where it you know, probably wouldn't
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have heard it at that time.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: So awesome.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me, man, because it's got to be
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: something crazy to like come out kind of put on
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: for Jamaica, put on for the genre, but then to
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: be able to take a Grammy home at the same time.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Awesome, even though I mean American music or Grammy, those
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: are things I didn't dream i'd be near you know
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: what I mean, I didn't dream that we'd be walking
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: down those those red carpets.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I just do music for fun.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I do music for my own personal expression and enjoyment
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: and creation anting and for people to start liking it
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and gravitating towards it. Time bring me to those spots.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Where are those those those that level of recognition where
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm deserving of a Grammy or American music or it
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: is mind blowing to me. So you know, appreciate to
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: everybody who helped me to get to that spot. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: it ain't really about like that wasn't my dream. I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: really appreciate it, but it ain't about that for me.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I'm fulfilled every day when I see smiles on people's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: faces when I'm singing the song in front of them
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: in the stage or you know, just hearing that people
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: love it and they post and they playing the song
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in the car.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: It feels good, man, I feels.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy because that album had legs.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, five tracks deep, bro, you.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm talking about? Like how long like between
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like the album dropping and how long y'all worked that much?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a while.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It was a while, bro, what the Trinity came out?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: In Trinity came out two thousand and five five six, Yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: it's about two thousand and five.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's crazy and it's wild too because back
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: then I feel like you couldn't turn the radio on
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: without here you on something.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, it was a big vibe.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: What was like because obviously you know, being on a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Beyonce record that was her first solo album, first solo album.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Baby Boy is a classic.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing sexist song. Bro, I can't I have to
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: give thanks for things like that. And I opened for
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a show for her. Maybe it was all the way around,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, but it was a small show in Jamaica,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: like a niche market show, and she she was there
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: with Destiny's Child and I met her there and then
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: for about two years later to be called and say, oh,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: my first solo album, and you know, knowing she she
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: was right, really a spotlight artist. Like the group itself
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: was hot, but a lot of people spoke about her.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I just felt that this is an awesome opportunity and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: they sent the track and I was very pleased that
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it was dance a lot of times in those days
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: people asked me to do a collab and this I
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: had a hip hop and I got to go over
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: there to do it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Or it is R and B.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Sure, it's it's rock or it pop oriented. Sorry, And
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: because like there the Blue Client Troll record wasn't no,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: it was a Blue Count trail. It was more like
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: it was a it was a ridding from Doctor j R.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And another dope record.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a dope record, but I was
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: very I was much more enthused that the Baby Boys
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: song was more dance all oriented.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It was really cool.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And at that time, I don't think we understand
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: like the run Beyonce is about to.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Go on, No nobody did.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of legendary, but the Beyonce Run
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: else the sky high after that, then the first album
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: True and it took me. It took me to a
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: different level in my own personal career for sure.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And she and she has to perform. She's performing that
• 20:44
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  Speaker 1: The new record is dope, thank you. It feels like
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• 22:05
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  Speaker 1: What is what is currently obviously the songs out, but
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  Speaker 1: is that part of a body of work it is.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I have a number of singles lined up. I think
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: today's nowadays is music business is kind of geared towards singles,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and I always like to make an album, like when
• 22:27
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• 22:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of dope, iconic, iconic, classic album and that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: marks that time in those artists' life for me and
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  Speaker 2: the fans life too, So that's what I'm more geared towards.
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  Speaker 2: But lately I've been just dropping singles, hoping to put
• 22:48
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  Speaker 3: Where it's being received, is a good spot.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a good time to start putting out my
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: man some you know stuff for early next year. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I got songs with Amanda Refa.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: She's a dope, she's amazing. She's Atlanta. Yeah, she's incredible.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: She's from Barbados and just has a Caribbean vibe, but
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: she do all kind of different trap stuff and R
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and B stuff, and.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: She she had no break with Farrell.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also also Kendrick Yeah yeah, Kendrick Yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: big up to her and looking forward to putting that
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: out soon. But yeah, you know, it just has been
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a good look putting out these tracks and hoping to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: put out the album soon.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that what your name, but.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like everything's in good space. I like
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: love and is doing.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Is awesome to me. I've been telling people she's been.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: She was on your album a few years ago, and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I'm on hers. She's been so far, She's been one
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of the most exciting stories from Dan Sall in years.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I've been telling people that all the time. Exciting for
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: me because where where what it takes to be a
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: dance artist is one thing, and that's very hard from
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to be from the community and in the genre, but
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: also to break past that and get attention past that
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: space is something that I've been wanting other people to achieve.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: And so you know, when Baby Shamp gets signed and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Elephant Man, I was I was always shaaring for stuff
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: like that. You know, Egyptiana had a big tune and yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and so so when she came along, I'm like rooting
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: for her.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: So shaken to the Maxx Records big man.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's huge.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That that's that's after the fact for me, Like I
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: knew before those things that she was going to be
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: something you know, speak.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: To like the synergy between like what has kind of
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the risk because in the same way that I feel
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: like dance hall and Caribbean music has the resurgence commercially,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like we saw the same thing happened with
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: reggaetone because you know, Reggaeton had that crazy Tago called
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: her on Daddy Yankee Spike earlier chewed out a little
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: bit commercially, and then now it's the bad Bundy's doing
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But what is kind of like sonically there's always been
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: like a kind of like a marriage between the two.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, speak to that man sound wise, I mean we
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: we we definitely believe that the entire Reggaeton sub sub
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: what we call it the back beat. Yeah, most of
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the songs are is of a rhythm called them Bao.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: They call it them bo Chabaranks had a record called
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: them bao on on a rhythm track, which is which
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is what they sampled from or they sampled from and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it became their known sound. So U you know, big
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: up Steely and Cleavy, they're they're legendary producers. Steely passed
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: away r I p to him, but Clevie's right now
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: do in his thing there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: You know, they're there.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: They're legendary producers, and they're in I think they're in
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a like a court case type of vibe.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I just wish them luck because for me, the genre
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: is definitely something that UH influenced reggae time, even afrobeat
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: how it sounds nowadays.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: He too.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Even you know Trinidad music. There's something called triny bad music, which.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Is what we influenced as well.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And so for me, and it's arguably it's arguably one
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: of my most controversial things to say, because I love
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: reggae music and they put us here and it's the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: father of our music. But I think dancehall has been
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: has spawned more music UH.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Inspired inspired genres.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I can say that just.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: About as much as reggae has, or even more. I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: mean from reggae we get the German bass and you know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: it's very I mean, I feel like reggae has got
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: some influence dance, drum and bass, I mean hip hop
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: influences and stuff like that. But for for for for
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: dance All, it's been reggaeton, it's been afrobeat.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: It's been these pop songs that come out like Rihanna Work, Work, Work,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that's a straight danceall record that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: The example from I was on that track back in
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: ninety eight.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: That's crazy to the song that Rihanna sampled.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Work where you were on the original on the original track. Yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: it's called Sailor Way Reading, I think.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: But also you.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Know, people like Drake and Bieber have used the sound
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and to me, that's awesome. And people people hear me
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: mention them and say, oh, you know, you know you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: just bitter and I'm not bitter. I just want people
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: to know. I love that they're doing it. I just
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: want people to know that is an influence from Danceall.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: It makes if people understand that, it makes you realize
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: how powerful we really are, you know what I mean,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: and that there are more people in the game, not
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: just myself and Shaggy or some names that you've heard.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, should look out for. There's people that they should
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: look out for. They're gonna come with hits.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Who are some of those new artists you feel.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Like Busy Signal it's not new, but he's very talented,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: very awesome. Big up to people like Skan. I find
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: that his tone of voice is awesome. He's an amazing
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: stage performer. You know, there's some Alkaline is also somebody
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that has had hits in the genre. You know, I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: cheering for all of that, you know, and everybody in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: between who have who have come up, you know, like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Charlie Blacks, He's.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Had some amazing hits and and those things. To me,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: it's more of the marrier I've been.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I've been on for years, and I want more of
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: my company, on my on my own peers around this
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: level where I am. You know, it's been It's been
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: an awesome journey, but sometimes hard to kind of like,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: you know, just get a win. Like sometimes I sit
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: down on a plane beside a nice, a nice elderly
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: lady and she's like, oh, you look like a rapper.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: What do you do? And I said, what I do?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I do danceall? And she said dance all.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, it's reggae's like, she knows your music,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: but she said, oh, reggaeton, and I said, it's not reggaeton.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: It says, it's very similar. So for that to happen
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: When I don't have a beef with reggaeton atal, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: just want people to know that came from what we
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: do and what we're we call it is danceall similar
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: to I'm a piano and afro beat right now everybody,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of people think that's the same genre, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: like I'm a piano is slightly different, and it's it's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a thing, you know what I mean. So I want
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I want people to know, and I want people to
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: come up and and and you know, do numbers same thing.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, it kind of takes like a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: full movement, Like it can never just be one artist, can't.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It's kind of damn near be like four or five
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: people breaking at the same time.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So it adds to it adds to my power them
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: coming up, you know what I mean. If I'm the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: only one in the building, people could still pass it
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: off even though there's been twenty straight years as oh
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that's a luke and so it ain't.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: It's been a flu for twenty years? How many how
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: many records have you sold so far? Like what's the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: latest like that? You know off the top of your head.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: You have to ask that guy over there.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna ask.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Let's just yeah, billions.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know a lot, and it feels good and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I'm very very thankful for that, you know what I mean.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: There's been many years where it was like, oh, it's this.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: One twenty six million according to Google a little bit
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: by the way, that was in twenty seventeen, so that's
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that's a while back. So yeah, I would say that
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: was eight years ago. So he has a lot more,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: definitely north of thirty. Yeah, So that's crazy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Good stuff and I have to give thanksan you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: big up to it's the people who did it before me.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So from the big great Bob Miley to you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: bands like Third World on Blackkuhuu who set the trend,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and then Barrington Levy and people like.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Bon Man, you know, I mean, like people like Junior Reed.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: They all came and set paths for me as just
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: a younger artist.
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  Speaker 1: do this pretty soon. I want to do a giveaway
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  Speaker 1: with some Slapwood stuff, So be on the lookout for that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be announcing it on the podcast. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: sending out obviously, you got to be of age sending
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  Speaker 1: out a good box of these goodies. Oh, the sweeping
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• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to the podcast. Who would you put in the mount
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: rushmore of dance? Haff You got to exclude yourself though,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: so you can't be freezy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Well my four, I gotta here four? Your four, I gotta.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Say in mind four, which was Super Cat. I I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: don't like him, Yeah, people tell me ever since I
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: was banging on a school desk making those rhythms and
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: singing songs, They're like, oh, you sound like Cat, And
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I always felt very proud of that.
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  Speaker 3: Next one, SHAHARANX. He was somebody to me who was
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: just like the General. You know what I mean, Nobody
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: sounded like him.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: There were other people who had hit songs, but nobody
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: had his style of saga and his old, you know
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: presence in Danta. Another one is Papa San. A lot
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: of people don't know him, uh, I would say. Younger
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: people don't know about Papa San. They may have heard songs,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: but they don't know it's him, and he is awesome.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: He was in the Guinness World Book Records for the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: most words in a song back in nineteen eighty nine
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: because it was just speed rapping and it was.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Like whoa set records and h you know.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: He had songs that lasted for five minutes without no chorus.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same, like like.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: What Lil Wayne did with Milly. But it's just like
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: it was like nuts. He told the whole story. So
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: big up to Papa Son. One more last one he
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: passed away. His name is uh General Uh sorry, not
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: General Major worries u R I p to him some
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: gun violence. I'm not too sure what happened, but he
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: was kind of a precursor to Shaba.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: In my generation.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: We considered his style what Shaba kind of learned from,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and even though they were djaying from the same camp
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: we had rated this guy Major worries a lot and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of times I can't find him on YouTube
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: or Spotify. I find I find live performances of him
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: on YouTube sometimes. Yeah, a few records. But the stuff
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that I would hear that I loved, I.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Don't hear it. No, I don't know where to find
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: it a lot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yo. I they called me bootleg Camp because they used
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to sell bootleg DVDs and ship at the SWAT meet. Yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and one of my one of my greatest hits was Shatas.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I used to sell that thing. I feel like that
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: might be one of the most bootleg movies of all time.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: But it involved Jamaican's.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: How accurate of like a depicted is that of like
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that era of Kingston?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: It was spot on. Yeah, you see the part where
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: it was where we were when I was in the movie.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: They were walking through that and there's a dude the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: neck color and like a moha Like we had some
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: people in dance looking like that, Like it was like
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: some punk rock stuff.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Even in Belly there was the random dude with the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: orange mohawk.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so those things is just like a spot
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a spot on.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, the talking, the lingue between people.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: You know, it was it was spot on.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yo, tell me about because every once in a while
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: something will go viral on TikTok with the Dagger in
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: which some of the most extreme wild dancing you'll ever
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: see people jumping from like a balcony like.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: It's part of part of the culture that came about
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: after I was you know what I mean.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: This is yeah, yeah, you've been out.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yo, I get it, but I'm not.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not getting into it, like love it. It is crazy.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I've seen people come over with cuts and scrapes and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you know, bloody knees. But I mean, I'm going to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: introduce you to someone. I'm not sure if you you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: may know him. His name is Shelly Belly. I haven't
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: heard him.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: So Shelly Belly is crazy.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: You could go on his his Instagram because every night
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: you got some moves.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Just he's like the Master Dagger.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: He got to throwing ladies all over the place and
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: they love it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's wild.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: The ladies that you see.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Him doing this too, they're down with it. They love it,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and he you know, he's a strong dude.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: So did you ever go through because you know, the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: one thing I always would appreciate about dance hall is
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: that y'all would do dub plates for people. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and like it was it's like a part of the culture.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Like there's like certain DJs who will have like the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: craziest dub plate of a record like that. Like you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: obviously you could drop out a sound clash or whatever
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it mos be like, oh my god, did you come
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: up doing a.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Lot of those? That was That was the thing.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: That's how I got known, Like the first time people
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: like before that singing in my bathroom, you know what
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I mean. And you go to a sound system, my
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: brothers sound system. They needed some doves. They're like, yo,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: come sing So so that's Copper Shot sound System, And
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: you know, I'd be in the bathroom with a mic
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: with a Suzi phone.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: They press play and record and I do my thing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: And then you know, started doing for other sound systems
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: like Renaissance and Syndicate and eventually Stole in Love and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the big sound systems in Jamaica.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: For people who don't know on the States, explain what
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the sound system is.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: The sound system is a group of like a team
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of dudes who are DJ's and MC's and they got
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: the record boxes and the speaker boxes.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Because there's a whole play about them speakers in Jamaica.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Man, yeah, I mean, when you think about it, our
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: music was born through that. You know, back in the thirties,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: apparently they had public radio that would just be playing radio,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and they were our people who produced our own music
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: couldn't get heard on these radio streams. So what they
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: did was to build their own speaker boxes and play
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: in the street, like just play live. And so that's
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: how sound system culture started. And there's many sound sisters
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: in Jamaica. So it's like street DJs with their own
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: whole club, you know what I mean. They got lights,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: they got sound system, they got you know, the speakers,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the techniques everything. So yeah, my brother came up with
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: a sound system from me was in eighth grade. They
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: just used to take the weekends and play at their
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: French parties and that kind of stuff. And we were
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: playing all the latest hip hop because we loved it,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you know. And then we were playing all the latest
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: dance all because those are that's all Jamaica's party. We
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: love reggae, but when it's party in time, when it's
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: like turn up time is more dance all for me
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: is actually my generation. So and then what was I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: saying about the sound system? Uh, just the whole culture.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: You know, it's huge and and and it's a part
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: of the reason why you know, that's how we used
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: to break our records to the people in the streets,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and then the radio started to pay attention to us.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: So it's how the music started.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: So you h this new record is going crazy Ginger
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and there's a new sing are you? Is there a
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: follow up coming before the end of the year? Top
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: of the year?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I think top of the year? Yeah, Ginger is definitely
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: the track right now.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: It's been one of the furthest moving tracks for a
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: while for me. And I appreciate everybody listening and locking
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: on and saying, yo, we still look young and fresh
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: and we look good on music, sound good seeing me
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: on device.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, you've had a crazy year.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Man, much much much to do? Bro?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, are you are you living in Jamaica? Are living
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: here Jamaica?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's such a bout from country man. Thank you invited, Bro,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you come to I'm spoiled with the weed here we
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: got here is different.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: It is, but we got good weed there.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I meant on the beach we dipped for a time.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: We did, and then I went to one of the farms,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: which was cool to see. Yeah, but I feel like, man,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: this is against California weed. They it's got so much.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: It is and you know what, you know, what did
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: happen to us?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you for all the weed heads who know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: like there was cross pollination that happened because we had
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: a strain in the late eighties, early nineties or even
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: late nineties that was awesome because it could take our
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: humidity and you usually what was the strain called There's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Lamb's Bread was one of them because a couple of
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: different ones.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: But the strains that do that people did get.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Because dispensary started to come up, or the talk of
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: dispensary started to come up, so people wanted all these
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: different strains and they were cross parlinnat And now we
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: kind of lost a good weed for a while. I
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: don't know where it went, but yeah, weed now it's growing.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: By what I tell everybody, I'm like, yo, man, as
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: long as it gets you high, who gives a fuck
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: what it smells like, what it looks like.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Well, sometimes you know you don't want to know ship
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: You don't want ship weed. I'm just saying, like right,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: hip hop, we're so spoiled, Yeah, us to enjoy it
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: because when it's I was like candy, it's gotta smell.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, it does it? I just want some
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: O G cush for sake.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: We love the guests, So you do the splits with
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the tobacco leaf.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: We do. We do.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: No, I don't do the tobacco leave, well we do.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Me and my brother we do put you know, like
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: we use.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: The guests the O G cush in the paper, Yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: in the paper okay, and then we sprinkle some we
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: called rosin. Oh yeah, and some diamonds on it.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Oh you're guy. Yeah, Oh my god, rosing and diamonds.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're floating when it's a esp floating. Don't provoke him.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: God the weed where we smoking, he's soaking.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go, Sean paul Man, I appreciate you pulling up.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Brother, appreciate it, sir. Thank you much of