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- 0:00Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Least requested, least demanded, and the
- 0:04Least downloaded wrestling podcast PCW. This could be a long podcast, so strapping
- 0:14and set up and don't be a little bit about it. Masters, Oh,
- 0:40ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chilling of all ages, Welcome
- 0:44to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling. I am your host.
- 0:49Wayne can also call me semi dry chicken if you like. Uh, we
- 0:53are going to London, England four money money, money, money money.
- 1:17Oh yeah, that's right. I dug that up from twenty fifteen. But
- 1:19you know what with the money in the brank briefcase match, there's always multiple
- 1:25contenders and I'm not alone. Let me bring him in for you. Welcome
- 2:00back Dray Yo, yo, what did do pc W crew? Crew?
- 2:06Drey's like my right hand man main event Dre you know, but a left
- 2:15hand, uh, the left hand Doyle. Oh it's me, it's me.
- 2:45It's a d O Y L E. And guys, Uh, what's
- 2:47so civil civil about war? Anyway? Good? Uh, nice way to
- 2:54segue that in there. I like it. Morgan on that all week,
- 3:00all week, all right, guys, Well, you know what it's rare,
- 3:04but we have a fourth member. That's right, all right? What
- 3:12there it is there? It is time the game. Time to play the
- 3:21game. It's all about the game you playing. Take it, Carlos,
- 3:42welcome back. But hey, thanks a lot for having me on. Guys.
- 3:46I can't wait to uh break down this money in the bank and make
- 3:50some predictions that may or may not be right. Yeah yeah, uh you
- 3:57know, real quick. Uh, let me let me say, Trey,
- 4:01what was your favorite cashing of all time? Like, if you have to
- 4:05pick like your top cash in m oh, let's see. Yeah, it's
- 4:15hard not to go with probably seth Rollins cash in the Heist of the Century
- 4:21that was. That one was special. But I'm gonna side with a little
- 4:28bit of recency bias because it's one that made me really mark out when it
- 4:30actually happened. I'm going with Live Morgan last year. I still gotta give
- 4:34props to her for that freaking four two forty she ran down to the ring
- 4:40to cash that thing in and the audience going completely nuts over it in that
- 4:45moment for her. Yeah, I'm gonna show some love to Live Morgan on
- 4:48this one. Yeah, that's a good one. Uh, Doyle favorite one
- 4:54favorite cashing well, I think it was, um, I want to say
- 5:00twenty sixteen, the night where all three members of the Shield held the title
- 5:03at one point. Uh, I think. I think Roman walked in with
- 5:06it, Seth beat him for and then Ambrose cashed in on him, and
- 5:11then that was a pretty fun, fun night to have all three of them
- 5:14guys have the same title on the same night. That was cool. Yeah,
- 5:17that was a very rare, very well put together storyline for that night
- 5:23that all Shield members got to hold the same title on the same night.
- 5:28U Carlos, what's your favorite memorable cash in? Think that was gonna be
- 5:34the one, I said, But I thought I remember that with Seth cashing
- 5:39in at the at the end of Mania, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah,
- 5:45thirty one on brock Lessner or something like that. Yeah, Brock and
- 5:48Roman rains, uh, you know, pinning reins for it. Okay,
- 5:51that's how that went. Yeah. Yeah, going back thinking about that,
- 5:57I remember like definitely going I don't want either of these guys to win.
- 6:02Like I was just spent like that feud. I guess, you know,
- 6:08I was just over it and I was just I don't really don't give a
- 6:10fuck who wins, and it was like coming out and that's pretty much how
- 6:15everybody felt, I guess at the time, because when Seth came out,
- 6:19the crowd went nuts, you know. I mean most cashtions are really good
- 6:25like that. I like the out of nowhere cash ins when we least suspect
- 6:30it, the ones where they kind of announced that they're having a match,
- 6:34maybe like Rob van Dam when he announced that he was having a match,
- 6:39you know, or there was one Austin theory. I think he did the
- 6:45same last year he announced that he was having a match with Seth Rollins.
- 6:48I think it was Seth Rollins and couldn't pull it off. It's just I
- 6:54don't know, it's just not as exciting as maybe like Live Morgan coming in
- 6:59and you know, taking out Rhonda Rousy. I mean, come on that.
- 7:04I did not see that one coming that. That definitely caught me off
- 7:08guard. Yeah, yeah, there there's a fine art to a pre planned
- 7:13cash in. It's something that's got me built up right, and most of
- 7:15the time they don't really execute it that well. M Yeah, and it's
- 7:21nice now that we have two of them, two briefcases, one for the
- 7:25men's one for the women's. So if they want to burn one off pretty
- 7:30early in the season, whether it's you know, that night or you know,
- 7:33within a month or two, they can and we still have one,
- 7:38you know that you can just hold on to, like Carmela held onto it
- 7:41for like two hundred and eighty seven days. You know, somebody I didn't
- 7:46expect to hold onto the briefcase for so long. But you know, walking
- 7:49around with that briefcase kind of enhances your your character a bit. We have
- 7:56also seen, like in the past, where they attempt to make cash in
- 8:00and they don't succeed, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh
- 8:07my neighbor with his motorcycle during my podcast Wonderful Lovely Well, uh, while
- 8:16that's going in the background, Doyle, while I meet myself, Uh say,
- 8:26um, you know, some people thrive with the briefcase and some people
- 8:33kind of get crushed under the weight of it. Um. You know,
- 8:35I think of like um, well, I mean, like you know,
- 8:41like a Dolph, even though he's sexy, he cashed in successfully, he
- 8:46wasn't able to really do anything with it, elevate himself at all. Uh,
- 8:52and he's still kind of a job under the stars. For lack of
- 8:56a better term. Uh, you know, then some people use it as
- 9:01a stepping off point, and you know, they never look back, and
- 9:07it's kind of akin and maybe we can talk about which we think is more
- 9:13impressive. But you know, when when people's careers were always over, they
- 9:16say, oh, Intercontinental champion three times and tag champion. But but but
- 9:20and they say how many times they won the Rumble or how many times they
- 9:22were King in the ring, or how many times they won the briefcase,
- 9:26And it's kind of like on par um something like that, and accolade of
- 9:31that King of the Ring, Queen of the Ring um kind of on par
- 9:35with that. So so when in the when in the briefcase is a big
- 9:39deal. It means it means they really see something in you, whether or
- 9:43not you can do anything with it. History has gone both ways on that.
- 9:50Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I I the counter what you just
- 9:56said. I don't love them doing the men and the women on the same
- 9:58same night. I've said this with the Rumble before too, you know,
- 10:01like, I don't know why they can't stagger him. Do one? You
- 10:03know, do one in six months? Do one? Now? I like,
- 10:09you know, yeah, sure you kind of have a quick cash in
- 10:11and a long drawn out one. But no matter how good, this one
- 10:15of the matches is going to be not as good as the other one no
- 10:18matter what. And it's kind of unfair like it. It could still be
- 10:22a four and a half star match, you know, the other one's a
- 10:26five star. The other one suffers, and I kind of feel like that's
- 10:31unfair. You know, who knows who it's gonna be. It could be
- 10:33the men, could be the women. We don't know. It just kind
- 10:37of feels unfair. Now, let me ask you guys this, Uh did
- 10:41you prefer to have the money in the Bank match at WrestleMania like it used
- 10:46to be, or do you guys prefer it as its own standalone pay per
- 10:50view? Because I personally I liked it at WrestleMania. I thought it was
- 10:56just one another way to get a bunch of wrestlers on the card. You
- 11:01know that may not be showcased. You know, some now are just shoved
- 11:05in the Andre the Giant Battle Royal. But I always thought that that match
- 11:09was kind of unique at WrestleMania. And you also had like one full year
- 11:15until the next Wrestlemanian to cash it in well, and you have the problem
- 11:20with the two matches happening on the same night. You know you can with
- 11:24a two night WrestleMania. You can have one each night and it's kind of
- 11:26less less um obtrusive. You know. Yeah, I think that would have
- 11:31been a great idea. Carlos, What do you think, do you miss
- 11:35it on WrestleMania nights or do you kind of enjoy it being its own standalone
- 11:39pay per view? Now? I think it it kind of go who comes
- 11:46in and goes like, yeah, it's good for having in at WrestleMania,
- 11:50But then I think at times you would be like, well, it gives
- 11:54them like an out, like if they don't like how the mania then or
- 12:00how the crowd reacted, and then they could just do something like that Dead
- 12:03with Rollins or Ambrose and things like that cashing in. So that's one of
- 12:07the ways that I kind of pro it. But then I really don't want
- 12:11to give them like have Vince or Hunter have a out like, well,
- 12:18this didn't turn out how we liked or we didn't get the reaction that we
- 12:20like, just go have them cash, because then I think at that point
- 12:24you realize that you know, you put in all this work into the story
- 12:28and building up this story like and then like it just you know, goes
- 12:35by the wayside. You committed all this time and resource, Like if that
- 12:37would have happened, like say, they would have had the money in the
- 12:41bank and they had Roman b Cody this year, and then like people didn't
- 12:46react or didn't like it, they would have had random person go out there
- 12:52and win, and then it just like every ruin's all that story telling that
- 12:56they've been building up the whole time, hyping Cody or you know, hyping
- 13:00up the blood lighting at that point. So that's one of the reasons why
- 13:03I wouldn't like it or anything like that. I think it'd be better like
- 13:05if it didn't if they decided not to have it like a WrestleMania or not
- 13:11have it be its own pay per view that they just throw it into like
- 13:15an Armageddon or no Way Out or you know, like a SummerSlam or Summer
- 13:20or random like that. Jed, how do you feel about that? Yeah,
- 13:28I'm kind of in between. Like I understand why some people are prefer
- 13:33it being a part of WrestleMania and being part of the spectacle of it all,
- 13:39but I kind of think that it's a bit too much for WrestleMania.
- 13:43Like WrestleMania exists enough on its own, and if you have this money in
- 13:48the bank ladder match, that is its own unique spectacle. It kind of
- 13:52deserves its own spotlight. Now that being said, I don't know if it
- 13:58rises to the level that it warrants it its own pay per view because it
- 14:01is just two matches on an entire card. So I don't know that it
- 14:05warrants having its own name to pay per view when there's clearly other stuff going
- 14:09on. So I think a happy medium would maybe be if it's either like
- 14:18randomly spread out throughout the year, maybe at you know, at a different
- 14:20pay per view, it can be we can say we're having the money in
- 14:24the bank ladder match here, or if they use it on an episode of
- 14:28Raw or SmackDown and say, you know, you know, at this this
- 14:31Raw will be the money in the bank ladder match, and that can be,
- 14:35you know, something that can be used to boost up that episode of
- 14:39Raw or that episode of SmackDown. Of course, then at the same time,
- 14:43giving the issue given to what um WW has to deal with with,
- 14:48you know, competing networks between USA and Fox and their wants and desires that
- 14:52could end up creating its own problems, you know, you know, giving
- 14:56the one the money in the bank ladder match on Raw, then here comes
- 15:00Fox complaining, like, yo, where the hell is our money in the
- 15:01bank ladder match? What the hell do we have for that? You know?
- 15:05You So I get that it's a balancing act and maybe making it its
- 15:09own pay per view is probably the best um outcome that they have for right
- 15:15now. So I'm cool with it where it's at all, right, Uh.
- 15:28Another thing that about the briefcases, it does, like Doyle was saying,
- 15:33how it's right up there with you know, Royal Rumble, King of
- 15:39the Ring. You know, it's part of your accolades. It's it's part
- 15:41of it goes on your Wikipedia, you know, but it does. We've
- 15:46seen these briefcases make stars and we've also seen it go absolutely nowhere. Uh
- 15:54from you know, Edge being the very first money in the bank winner,
- 15:58you know, cashing it on. John seen that kind of catapulted his heavyweight
- 16:03title run like you know, in the future. That was like the first
- 16:07of many for him. But then you got do you guys remember one year
- 16:11that otis won the money in the Bank briefcase. You know, remember James
- 16:18Ellsworth won the money in the Bank briefcase, the women money in the rank
- 16:22bfcase. Yes, uh, you know Baron Corbin also won it. Um.
- 16:29Yeah, yeah, mister Kennedy. We've seen a lot of them win
- 16:33it and kind of go nowhere, and then we also, yeah, then
- 16:37we've seen a couple win it and kind of catapult their career. So,
- 16:44uh, it's weird is this year they're kind of talking about how, uh
- 16:48you can cash in on any title. It doesn't and I felt like that
- 16:52was kind of, I don't know, obvious, but now they're giving you
- 16:57the option that kind of cash in on any title. Just I guess last
- 17:02year was kind of the first for the men's as the president. Yeah,
- 17:07but that's a popular decision, right, Like, I don't mean anybody was
- 17:11really thrilled. I think it made sense, but I think like, as
- 17:17a whole, I think the fan base was not thrilled. Yeah, the
- 17:22theory not cashing it in for a world title. Yeah, and then I
- 17:26believe one year didn't Charlotte cashing in on the NXT champion. Oh, yes,
- 17:37there you go. I think he hash even won the money in the
- 17:40brank briefcase. I remember that year that was then two twenty one. Yeah,
- 17:45that's the one problem that kind of lies with the money in the bank
- 17:48briefcases. Sure, it is an opportunity to cash in for something, but
- 17:52realistically speaking, circumstances play a lot into it. And that's kind of what
- 17:57hurt you know, Austin theories cashing last year. It's like, yeah,
- 18:00he's got the briefcase, but everybody a mama knew he was not beating Roman
- 18:06Reins. Yeah yeah, right, so he has this opportunity that we know
- 18:11he can't capitalize on. So it was like what you you know, you
- 18:17you wrote yourself into a into a corner with that, So there was really
- 18:22no out for them. So at least now with their being a world heavyweight
- 18:27championship, you know, there is a viable option for whoever wins the men's
- 18:33money in the bank briefcase for them to have a legitimate cashing. Because I
- 18:37think even to this point right now, we still both all think that ain't
- 18:41nobody cashing that shit in on Roman. Nobody's got the balls, sure,
- 18:47but I mean, what to say that the winner just doesn't wait him out
- 18:51and somebody beat somebody else beats Roman and then they're cashing on that person.
- 18:55Well, yeah, if you go off the assumption that you know Roman is
- 18:59Roman loses the title within the next year, then yeah, of course that's
- 19:02always an option as well. Who knows that that happened or not exactly?
- 19:08Yeah, I got a trivia question for you guys. If you want it
- 19:11a trivia question, Well, golly, let me fire up the Jeopardy music
- 19:17here, go for it. Ah. Well, they were stealing my gimmick
- 19:23and giving you all the stats and whatnot about the money in the bag match.
- 19:26They mentioned that is one of three men to ever successfully cash in the
- 19:33briefcase twice. Another didn't tell us the third twice successfully. Ooh, I
- 19:45know that one. That's Sam Punk. That is correct. Oh yeah,
- 19:51c M Punk. Yeah, it's weird that they didn't mention Sam Punk,
- 19:56right, No, I wonder why. Yeah, I'm trying to remember who
- 20:04he cashed it in on, um Sampunk. Sampunk don't because there were Yeah,
- 20:14there are too many questions. I'm trying to look back. Here was
- 20:18one John Cena. One of them may have been John's uh oh uh Edged
- 20:27defeated uh Edge defeated Jeff Hardy for the World Heavyweight title immediately after Hardy had
- 20:36won the title. Okay, and Punk Cash this briefcase in on June thirtieth,
- 20:47two thousand and eight, episode of Raw Defeating Edge after an assault by
- 20:49Batista during Edges promote when the world heavyweight title. Oh yeah, I remember
- 20:55that Batista came out. You know, Batista bombed his ass, beat his
- 21:00ass, and then see him Punk's music hit. Yeah, that was pretty
- 21:03good, all right, better than the year before that. That's what mister
- 21:10Kennedy wanted. And then lost his briefcase. We've seen that happen too,
- 21:15Yeah, because he supposedly had a horrible injury and then he lost the briefcase
- 21:18and he gets the injury checked out and they're like, this isn't really that
- 21:22bad. You'd be back in like two weeks, but by then he'd already
- 21:25lost the thing. That guy got screwed out of the being Vince's son too.
- 21:30Yeah, well he kind of screwed himself too, but he got he
- 21:33got caught up in the whole juice and scandal that he was certainly a dickhead.
- 21:41I don't forget. We also saw Otis lose his in court. Oh
- 21:45yeah, my neighbor storing. Yeah right, big briefcase in the court battle.
- 21:56We've seen like the briefcase like break. We saw John Cena had the
- 22:00brieface and it like broke off the hangar as he slammed it against Big Show's
- 22:07face. We've seen aj Styles almost catch it and then drop it into Otis's
- 22:11hands. All types of weird shit. Um. The one that Tightened Tower
- 22:17was great. I actually know what. I did. Enjoy that one.
- 22:22So worried about how they were going to do it, and I remember reading
- 22:26online that they're gonna do it in Tighten Tower, and I was like,
- 22:30what, like how how are they going to make this interesting at all?
- 22:34And you know, if you go back and watch it, they kind of
- 22:37made it interesting. It also looked like nothing is a ray mysterio was thrown
- 22:44off the building. That's what it looked like. Uh yeah. Cinematic matches
- 22:49were like a product of the time, product of the necessity. I should
- 22:52say I wouldn't mind sing not very often, not very often, but every
- 22:59now and then something like that was so much fun. I wouldn't mind seeing.
- 23:03I mean, not that exact scenario again. Obviously, but something like
- 23:07that, you know, kind of expand the possibilities of what a match is
- 23:11and can be. I think it's great. All right, let's kick this
- 23:18off here and let's get into some predictions this year. It's gonna be held
- 23:22July first, twenty twenty three in London, England at the O two Arena.
- 23:29Uh. What what did they always use? They use like the telephone
- 23:33booths. And they have like a car, right, like a like a
- 23:34British car always That's what they kind of always have in the state. Next,
- 23:40Yes, the double decker bus. Let's see if they bring those back
- 23:44this year. Seems like they do it every time they go to London.
- 23:49This is gonna be the fourteenth money in the bank, fourteenth annual money in
- 23:55the bank for pay per view. Wow, fourteenth whole crap? Uh they
- 24:02have here? We have seven matches. Um they have the first one listed
- 24:07here. I don't really think this is one that's gonna kick off the show.
- 24:11Uh, it's gonna be Ricochet, Shinski, Nakamura, La Knight,
- 24:18Santos Escobar, Butch, Damian Priest and Logan Paul the Men's briefcase. Oy.
- 24:27Yeah, what I do like about this? This lineup here is none
- 24:32of these guys are former world champions, which I like to see sometimes I
- 24:37don't like when we have a match full of former world champions. I like
- 24:40to think as the Rumble and and the briefcase match as like a stepping stone
- 24:48for a new guy. This is a chance for like a new guy to
- 24:52really kick off his career. Uh you know, love laying up, as
- 25:00Will would say, is a chance to level up here. And this is
- 25:03a pretty good lineup. Uh you know, when it comes to predictions here,
- 25:11this one's gonna be kind of tough because I know who I want to
- 25:15win, but I kind of know I kind of know who Vince is gonna
- 25:19pick. But per interesting storyline, I know who else should win, So
- 25:26I think interesting storyline. Uh you know, later in the night, we
- 25:33do have Finn Balor versus Damien priest Or versus Seth Rollins. Let's let's just
- 25:38say, hypothetically speaking, Finnbalor somehow wins, right be Seth Rollins. What
- 25:44if Damian Priest wins the briefcase and decides to cash it in on Finn Balor
- 25:49the same night too much Judgment day storyline? That's possible, but it's an
- 25:56idea, it's it's it's somewhere they could go with that storyline. But seeing
- 26:00Damian Priest's world champion, and I don't see that happening, not anytime soon.
- 26:07I mean, they do have a lot of faith in this guy,
- 26:11but I just don't see him holding in a world title this soon in his
- 26:15career. It would be interesting to see him take it off of Finnbalor,
- 26:18and then yet again, Finnebaler only holds on to a heavyweight title for a
- 26:22short amount of time. I really think they're gonna go with Logan Paul Unfortunately,
- 26:33it makes sense this guy could hold onto the briefcase for a long time.
- 26:37He could showcase it wherever he goes on his podcast on you know,
- 26:44wherever he's promoting his prime drink, you know, just wherever. He could
- 26:48take that briefcase with him. And the guy doesn't have to always be there,
- 26:53so when he does show up, it could be a real shocker.
- 26:57But who I want to win it is el A Night. And I know
- 27:06I got some haters out there who don't believe that La Knight is ready for
- 27:08the briefcase, but I think he is. I think he'd be the perfect
- 27:12candidate for it. Uh you know what, I know it's gonna have some
- 27:18some bump back against me for this. Let's let's hear Drey's opinion. Who
- 27:26do you think it's gonna win this match? He's a mute ye Dre.
- 27:37Who do you think could come out of this match to the winner? So,
- 27:41as I was briefly saying before I realized I was on mute um,
- 27:45I don't know why you think I would have bumped back against you because my
- 27:48money is actually on La Night. Oh yeah, he actually he is.
- 27:53I think he is from from a wrestling standpoint, from from WWE television product
- 28:03standpoint, I think he's the best person to have it. I think he's
- 28:07of all these competitors, he's the most primed to take it to the next
- 28:11level and if you want the money in the bank briefcase, to have some
- 28:15significance and still be and be that that stepping stone that it was known as
- 28:22at one point, I think he's the best person to do it. He
- 28:25can among all these competitors, he's probably easily the best one on the mic.
- 28:30He can take it out there and have something that can you know,
- 28:33that can carry his character forward for the next year and from change. In
- 28:40addition to you know what else we other things we may expect from him as
- 28:44far as matches and such, and he can make for a really good foil
- 28:49to a Seth Rollins, even though even though Elia Knight is on SmackDown.
- 28:56It would be I think as his popularity grows and if WW wants to take
- 29:00advantage of it, they can use that money in the bank briefcase as an
- 29:04excuse to have him pop up on raw and be that that nemesis to Seth
- 29:10Robinson, just that guy always poking at him, letting him note like,
- 29:12you know right here, as soon as you slip up, I'm coming,
- 29:17And that could really work well. That being said, the worst case scenario,
- 29:25in my opinion, would be if they put that motherfucker on Logan Paul,
- 29:29because to me, that would just say pure business. That would say
- 29:34pure endeavor owns us. Now Endeavor's you know, giving us the business side
- 29:42of it and get and putting that business influence on it. Because yes,
- 29:48he is by far the most famous person in the match, and for all
- 29:52the reasons that you just said, he can take that money in the brief
- 29:55brief that money in the bank briefcase outside of WWE and use it to shine
- 30:00a light by proxy on WWE as he's doing all his regular everyday stuff with
- 30:08that briefcase. Sure, so from a business standpoint, it would make sense
- 30:12to put it on Logan Paul. From a wrestling standpoint, I think it's
- 30:17the worst decision you could possibly make. Any would if they did that.
- 30:19That would just tell me you don't give two shits about this briefcase at all,
- 30:23because he ain't gonna cash it in successfully. He'll just randomly pop up
- 30:27the next time y'all decide y'all want to use them for something. Oh I'm
- 30:32bad, guess what I got that briefcase thing? And yeah, yeah,
- 30:33blah blah blah whatever. Right, And it wouldn't make sense with Seth being
- 30:40champion in their recent history too. Sure, sure, but again, nobody
- 30:47thinks Seth. Nobody thinks Logan Paul is going to become champion. At least
- 30:51he damned will better not be. But I will say to your point about
- 30:56the Damian Priest Finn ballance in there, that is some really inspired booking and
- 31:02it would definitely throw catch everybody off guard if they pulled that. But I
- 31:08don't think that's good. I just don't think that's gonna happen. I think
- 31:11that's a little too inspired. Maybe if maybe, if Vince was sitting his
- 31:15ass at home and not fucking with shit, maybe we could get some something
- 31:19that inspired from Triple aition whoever's co writing with him. But nah, now,
- 31:25not with Vince poking his nose all and everything. So yeah, so
- 31:30for what it's worth, my money is on La Night, Yeah Doyle.
- 31:36Yeah, Like, like you said, an interesting group with zero former world
- 31:41champions. I absolutely love that. Uh, you know, every now and
- 31:45then you gotta put the brief You gotta give the briefcase to a John Cena
- 31:48or somebody like that. But every now and then you gotta build somebody up.
- 31:53So I kind of broke this down into tears. Right. The first
- 31:57tier is the no chance in hell tier, and that includes Butch, Ricochet
- 32:02and Santos Escobar. Sorry, guys, you're just here to do crazy shit,
- 32:07and Butch, you're here to get get that hometown pop. I think
- 32:13Ricochet is probably gonna do something crazy with Logan Paul, maybe like a call
- 32:19back to that crazy spot they didn't in the rumble Um. But I don't
- 32:23think any of those three guys have any chance in hell. Sorry. The
- 32:29second tier is the shins Game Nakamoor tier. Uh sorry sorry, Shinskay.
- 32:34You don't have no chance in hell, but you don't have a great chance
- 32:37either. I love Shinskay, but the only case I can make for him
- 32:43winning is that I like him, and that's just not enough. Uh So,
- 32:46we got three contenders the way I see it, it just kind of
- 32:50seems like that's how everybody sees it. We got Damian Priest. I think
- 32:55the gimmick of the briefcase works best for heel, so that certainly a point
- 33:00in his favor. As um As Wayne said, I think there could be
- 33:05a great dynamic if Finn were to win that championship and then Damian. Uh
- 33:10yeah, then Damien h almost that Dominic has the briefcase. I think that
- 33:15would be just phenomenal chaos in Suing. I think that would be great,
- 33:20and I think the company's really high on him coming off the match with Bad
- 33:23Bunny. What was that backlash? Yeah? So yeah, I think he's
- 33:28certainly a viable candidate. U l A. Knight or having to call him
- 33:32stone cold Rock Johnson, Uh, he is over as fuck. There's no
- 33:39doubt about that. I find it really amusing that, Like there's an age
- 33:45question with this guy, which doesn't make any sense. He's the same age
- 33:49as Damian Priest, he's one year older than Santos Escobar, and he's three
- 33:52years younger than She's gay. Like, what the fuck is the problem you
- 33:55think this guy was, you know, bringing a walker down to ring with
- 34:00him. I don't I don't get it. Do people not know how old
- 34:04Batista was during his run? Yeah? I guess the fucker was in his
- 34:07forties. Yeah. Yeah, Like professional wrestlers almost don't even come into their
- 34:13prime until their mid thirties, you know, like because that by you know,
- 34:17it takes sometime. It takes that long to figure it out, you
- 34:20know, figure out how to read the crowd and whatever. I'm digressing.
- 34:24Um, but La Knight is interesting. He's one of the few guys that
- 34:29uh doesn't get the reaction he's supposed to. Uh, you know, uh.
- 34:35The WW universe famous for you know, getting behind a heel and and
- 34:40and cheering a heel or booing a face. Um, but in this day
- 34:45and age, most of the heels are getting booed and most of the faces
- 34:47are getting cheered. La Knight is one of the only uh only uh examples,
- 34:54but that doesn't happen. He's he's a heel. I mean he pushed
- 34:58Ray Masterio Junior. He's a he but he's getting booed. I think they're
- 35:02gonna have to turn and face officially at some point. But like I said
- 35:07with Damian, I think it works better with a heel, which is why
- 35:13I am also picking Logan Paul. I've said it before, I'll say it
- 35:17again. I'm sure I don't like him. I'm supposed to though he's a
- 35:22he's a heel, goddamnit, but I love his wrestling character. He's like
- 35:28like a twenty first century update on like a million Dollar Man mixed with Hollywood
- 35:32Helk Hogan at the same time. You know, and there's only so many
- 35:37stories you can tell around the guy holding the briefcase, but one that hasn't
- 35:42been done is putting it on a part timer. And he's kind of the
- 35:45perfect guy at the perfect time. You know, he might not be on
- 35:49Raw every week with the briefcase, but he's gonna be elsewhere with it every
- 35:52week, getting probably even more eyeballs. He'll be all over social media doing
- 35:58his red carpet thing. I don't know if is he a DJ. I
- 36:00don't know he's going to be sitting up there with his briefcase wherever the hell
- 36:04it is that he does. I don't know. Um And I yeah,
- 36:07I like it's definitely I think of instant I think the temptation to put the
- 36:12briefcase on a social media influencer, which is kind of a thing that didn't
- 36:17exist, you know, more than a couple of years ago. Um.
- 36:21I think it's too too much temptation, too many mainstream eyeballs that they can't
- 36:27say no to. Um So, I I think as much as I think
- 36:34Damian Priest and La Night work just fine, I won't wouldn't be shocked if
- 36:37it's hotter with them, But I think it's gonna be uh Logan Paul um.
- 36:44But the question I think is who's he gonna cash in on? Like
- 36:47there is that story with seth um So, then I think that probably means
- 36:53he has a has a quick run with the tip with the title, with
- 36:57the with the briefcase. But if if Logan Paul were to win it,
- 37:00I'd like to see him hold it for a long time, you know,
- 37:04and you know Ros in Miami one night. He and he's putting up on
- 37:08the social media. Oh you know what, I'm going to this uh whatever
- 37:12premiere and I just happened to me in Miami to night, so you never
- 37:15know, maybe you'll see me. But I think uh, and we talked
- 37:19about cashing in on a mid card title. I think Gunther might might get
- 37:25cashed in on UM as we said this precedent after Theory did it. And
- 37:32I think it's the only way to get the Belt out. I think they've
- 37:36painted themselves in a corner with Gunther. That's the only way to get Belt
- 37:38off of him without, you know, and still making him look strong.
- 37:43You know, if he has a knockdown, drag out match with somebody you
- 37:46know barely wins and then boom the music comes, gets clocked in the head
- 37:50of the briefcase and you got a new IC champ. Now, I picked
- 37:54Logan Paul based on the seven people we know are in this match, but
- 38:00as well, recall last year and Wayne correctly predicted they added somebody last minute,
- 38:06and I think we might see the return of Drew here. That wouldn't
- 38:09shock me if he comes back. I think all bets are off. It's
- 38:14probably Drew the wins it. There's a lot of Randy Orton rumors going around.
- 38:19I could I wouldn't be shocked to see him or Bray. We haven't
- 38:22seen what the hell. I don't know who the hell knows what they're ever
- 38:24going to do with him, but if they do something, I wouldn't be
- 38:28shocked to see him interfere or be an eighth rather. Um. So,
- 38:32there's a lot of a lot of moving parts here, a lot of a
- 38:36lot of mysteries around in this one, and it really could go either way.
- 38:39Yeah, everybody had to do qualifying matches except for Logan Paul. You
- 38:45know, everybody had to do those qualifying matches, which they dragged out for
- 38:50a while, but not Logan Paul. It just shows up puts himself in
- 38:54the fucking match. So yeah, it's very possible. I didn't even think
- 38:58about that, you know, Drew coming back and put himself in there.
- 39:04Honestly, I would be surprised if they added another quote unqualified person to the
- 39:09match after having done it with Logan Paul, Right, I'd be surprised if
- 39:15they did that night. But again, it is it is London, so
- 39:17It is not out. It's not out of the question, especially with somebody
- 39:21like Drew Drew McIntyre just sitting in the wings, you know. Granted we
- 39:25don't know what his contract situation is with WW as far as those negotiations,
- 39:30but yeah, it's very much still a possibility. All right, Carlos,
- 39:36tell tell us why you think Butch is gonna win this. Let me tell
- 39:42you, I think that Butch has a real good shot in taking this down.
- 39:51Let me tell you something. I'm listening. No, I have no
- 39:58for it. I mean I could come up and spend it somehow. Okay,
- 40:04let's go if we want to digress, let's go with this one.
- 40:07So Butch has been in development told for how many years, like seven,
- 40:17eight, maybe ten years, going back a while, and he did hold
- 40:24the u n xt UK title for a very long time until it actually got
- 40:30taken off of him a few years back or last year, wasn't it when
- 40:35they finally got rid of nxt UK and then one of those guys took it
- 40:42from him. Anyway, so he does have he does have confidence from Hunter
- 40:47to be able to go and make a run at a championship, not in
- 40:53particularly the big belts, like the one that Roman or Seth has, So
- 40:59it could be back in getting the NXT title. And if he does go
- 41:02back, maybe he can no longer be known as Butch and go back to
- 41:07his beginning name, which I haven't even forgotten what that was done. Yeah,
- 41:14everybody hate the name Butch. No, I don't hate it. But
- 41:17there was always that rumor that, you know, like he's gonna go back,
- 41:22They're gonna break up the brawling brutes. This was something that was I
- 41:25think either a rumor before Mania or after Mania. They came out when they
- 41:31were going to start rewriting everything, you know. Yeah, yeah, personally
- 41:35I like that. I love them. Yeah, how good it's worked now?
- 41:38First and now we've forgotten what his name well I have, I don't
- 41:44know, I am old so but the fact that he's just that guy who's
- 41:49just about straight action and just wants all the smoke all the time, Like
- 41:52that past Monday when they had all the guys in the ring and then his
- 41:58music hit and he walked. He ain't say shit, just immediately gotten to
- 42:00bring it, got to swinging all folks anyway, didn't even have a microphone.
- 42:06I love it, the fighting. I love his like joint manipulation gammick
- 42:13he does, or he's just like breaking people's fingers or whatever. Yeah,
- 42:17like you know, look at you all, you alert, you all changing
- 42:22your picks to to butch now no, but if he wins, I will
- 42:25mark the fuck out. It would be nowhere though. Yeah, yeah,
- 42:30it started to swing you guys, huh, but uh he's the sentimental favorite.
- 42:36Yeah, I mean he could get the big overs on that crowd.
- 42:39And like I said, if they do go that route, it could probably
- 42:43be for the Icy or the United States Championship. I mean, we still
- 42:47don't know who's gonna be able to take that off of Austin theory, Like
- 42:52you know, it could be one of those things. And if they decided
- 42:55to do break up the brawling roots, that's one way they can go.
- 43:00But my real pick here is um going to be It's going to be shints
- 43:08Kate. Now I'm listening, you know, shints Kate came back. He
- 43:15gave a nice couple of retirement matches to Muda, and he is saying that
- 43:21he's get what Ruda call him the F word, So you know, it
- 43:30is like he is getting close where he said that he's like wanting to retire.
- 43:35I'm not gonna say that he's gonna actually win, but like not no
- 43:39money in the bank. I'm actually pro for him, but I'm just saying
- 43:43that title. But I mean, we're all looking into what's gonna give us
- 43:45a good program, and I think him going against Seth and maybe having the
- 43:52feud for maybe at least for another pay per view or to a build up
- 43:58to a pay per view. But he'd be if they can pare him up
- 44:01with someone that can work the mic for him a little bit more than he
- 44:07can already doing his limited amounts of English that he does manage to get out.
- 44:12Well, if they could pare him up with a guy who could talk
- 44:15on the mic, I think he'd probably be able to get it. Be
- 44:19a little bit of a great boil for Seth Rollins. Yeah, they always
- 44:24get him like so close to the title, you know, whether it's like
- 44:28winning the Royal Rumble and then going all the way to WrestleMania, just getting
- 44:34so close to the gold but never able to like pull the trigger with him.
- 44:39That's when they should have pulled it with him. That's why the hottest
- 44:43he's ever been in the company. Yeah, and it's coming around because I
- 44:46can when he first came out, after you know, his little brief stint
- 44:51and taking a break and trying to regather himself, you know, people weren't
- 44:54doing the chant with him when to his music. But as he was come
- 45:00out and everyone's getting back into the whole Nakamura vibe or the King of Strong
- 45:05style, everyone's been kind of joining them and the sing along has been getting
- 45:08stronger and stronger. So I think, uh, I think it would be
- 45:14good. And if they do play like a long game with him, like
- 45:17kind of menacing and uh at seth, I think it could work. He
- 45:24was one. He was one of the first guys that had the like interactive
- 45:30uh theme song for lack of a better word or whatever, one of the
- 45:34first guys that they you know, they channeled along with or whatever, which
- 45:37is a kind of becoming a bit much more fandangle that ogle. Yes,
- 45:45right, well, I don't think I was thinking of Bobby Rude. I
- 45:51think first before Bobby Rude, I think I remember Prack pretty far. Yeah,
- 45:58Yeah, I remember Bobby Rude. He really had going with that glorious
- 46:00for a while. Yeah, And that's a great entrance. I'm so glad
- 46:04I got to see that in person. Wait wait, you said you would
- 46:07be surprised if this was the first match on the card U and I would
- 46:13be too. But if it is those antenna is better go up because especially
- 46:16if that SETH match is until late Yeah yeah yeah, Oh Shenanigans a foot
- 46:22Yeah, Sigan's a foot. Uh. The next one they have listed here
- 46:28is the Women's Money in the Bank match, which I think these two I
- 46:32don't think they're me back to back. I think they'll be kind of spread
- 46:36out. Um, this one has Selena Vega, Becky Lynch, Zoe Stark,
- 46:42Bailey, EO Sky, and Chris Stratus. So Bailey is the only
- 46:49former Money in the Bank winner, but we do have former women's champions in
- 46:54this match. Uh. You know, I expect a lot of crazy stunts
- 47:01from maybe Selena Vega and maybe a really good one from EO Sky if the
- 47:08ladder, Yeah, I really would like Becky Lynch to win it. It
- 47:14would make the most amount of sense. Um. I don't really see them
- 47:19putting it on Bailey again. I think Zoe Stark is too green. I
- 47:25don't think they're gonna give to Selena Vega as much as I'd like them to
- 47:30um, but yeah, I definitely. I don't know. There's something just
- 47:37tells me like Becky Lisch makes sense, But they're not going to do it.
- 47:42I think they're going to put it on Trish. And I know me
- 47:45and Drey probably have differences on this, but I think I here's why.
- 47:51Uh. I think because Trish it's the one thing she hasn't done yet.
- 47:57Uh well, that's not true. It would be just something to add on
- 48:00to her quote unquote legacy, you know, before she goes fully retires.
- 48:07I guess is she did mention she wanted to win one of the women's titles
- 48:15that you know, she hasn't won the versions of the women's titles and she
- 48:20wants to. And I feel like that's a good opportunity for her to do
- 48:24it. She can hold on to it for quite some time, and you
- 48:29know, when she does cash it in, she can have some Shanadikins and
- 48:34some help from Zoe Stark if you know, she's still a heel. I
- 48:38just I think it's gonna be Trish. I got my money on Trish on
- 48:43this, and if not Trish, it's gotta be Becky. You know,
- 48:50Trey what are you thinking here, Yeah, this one we do disagree because
- 48:53I think it absolutely is going to go on Becky Lynch. The only other
- 48:59person I can see possibly getting it is EO Sky because that yeah, yeah,
- 49:06I think I think I think the two betting favorites to me are Becky
- 49:10Lynch or EO. Sky. At least with EO Sky winning it, then
- 49:14you set up that dynamic between her and Bailey and Damage Control which has kind
- 49:19of been brewing under the surface, and I think it's a storyline that they
- 49:22wanted to go with for a while but had to put on pause because of
- 49:24Dakota Kai's injury, so they kind of had to, you know, put
- 49:29put the brakes on the uh, you know, the descent within the ranks
- 49:34of Damage Control. But if EO Sky when's the money in the bank briefcase,
- 49:37then they can kind of still play around with that dynamic a little bit
- 49:42until Dakota Kai comes back, and then they ultimately possibly pull the trigger on
- 49:47Io Sky breaking out and and away going on about her singles career. Um.
- 49:55That being said, though, I still think that they're actually going to
- 50:00to give it to Becky Lynch this time around. She's already been in it
- 50:04I think five times already, and they it's been made a pretty big deal
- 50:08about, you know, her finally trying to win it, Like how many
- 50:12times can she be in this and not do it? And I don't think
- 50:15they're going to do that too or six times? I think, I think
- 50:22I know do all said about money in the bank briefcase usually works best when
- 50:25it's under faith, when it's on the hands of a heel and what they
- 50:30can do with it. But I also think it can work with Becky Lynch
- 50:34as a baby face in this case, just because right now we have somebody
- 50:39that she can work as a foil against, and that being rear Ripley as
- 50:45the women's world champion and a heel. I we still don't know when they
- 50:52would ultimately when they may turn rear Ripley face, and I honestly think they
- 50:59may dragged that out longer than we may have initially thought, because I know,
- 51:04coming out of WrestleMania, a lot of us thought that a rear Rippley
- 51:07face turn was seemingly imminent given how over she kind of was with the audience.
- 51:13But they've kind of found something by connecting her with Dom that she's still
- 51:17managing to maintain quite a bit of heel heat by being associated with him,
- 51:22and some of the cheering that she's gotten has kind of died down a bit.
- 51:28I think people still like her and still are fans of her, but
- 51:31she's still a very much a strong heel as it stands right now, and
- 51:37I think they're probably gonna go down that route for a while. So with
- 51:39Becky Lynch as the money in the Bank winner, she can kind of be
- 51:45that stalker to rear Ripley. And while rear Ripley still you know, promoting
- 51:52herself as the most feared woman all raw and nobody wants a piece of her,
- 51:55there can always be that bbculent She's just standing right there and keep talking.
- 52:01I got this briefcase right here. Anytime I want, I can come
- 52:06at you. And that can be that thing that's you know, that that
- 52:10ghost in the shadows almost that's always kind of standing in the back, just
- 52:15waiting to pounce on ar Ripley. I think that's an interesting dynamic that they
- 52:19can play out for a good while with Becky Lynch as the money in the
- 52:23Bank briefcase winner and rear Ripley as the women's world champion, So for what
- 52:30it's worth, my money is on Becky Lynch Okay, all right, Doyle,
- 52:37Well I see this totally different than both of you. Oh I like
- 52:40it, let's hear it. Yeah. Kind of interesting dynamic, right we
- 52:45have? We have unlike the men's match, we have no former champions.
- 52:50We have three former champions and three never champions. It's kind of an interesting
- 52:54dynamic. Trish is the first Hall of Famer ever to be in a money
- 52:59in the bank match. Interesting little note. And we get two pairs of
- 53:04heels and two baby faces on their own. It's kind of also kind of
- 53:08strange. Becky mentioned Zelina and her don't get along super well in a promo,
- 53:15but I would expect them to form some kind of uneasy alliance at least
- 53:19for a little bit, and that might be kind of fun. This will
- 53:22kind of almost be like a trio's match almost. But again, I kind
- 53:29of made a list of every participant and what I thought they were going to
- 53:32do and why, and uh yeah. My least likely to win is Trish
- 53:38because I don't think she's gonna be around much past SummerSlam, where I think
- 53:44she's gonna have a match with Becky Lynch, which eliminates Becky from the running
- 53:47because I think Trish is going to cost her as part of the match,
- 53:52cost her the briefcase. And I think Zoe Stark is out because she's wrapped
- 53:57up in the Trish and Becky drama, and plus she just got here,
- 54:00you know, like her being in the match is great, that's I mean,
- 54:07how long has she been on RAW? A month? Two months?
- 54:09Not even so just being there with those ladies it tells you what they must
- 54:15think of her in the office. But she ain't winning this thing, Bailey,
- 54:20I don't think needs it at all. She's already wanted anyway. She's
- 54:23been there, she's done that, and she seems like one of the most
- 54:28unselfish people in the company. Really, I don't think she really cares if
- 54:35she wins and loses all that much. I think she's more into telling good
- 54:37stories and being with her friends and and stuff like that. So I don't
- 54:42think she really cares if she wins or not, which leaves us with two
- 54:47now. As Elena, she had one of those accolades we kind of talked
- 54:51about. She was Queen of the Ring, and she didn't really do much
- 54:54of anything with it. Granted it was still pandemic era, but I don't
- 55:00know what's to say She's gonna do a whole lot with the briefcase if she
- 55:02gets it. I mean, her credibility has increased a little bit since the
- 55:07matchic backlash, but she just hasn't really done much with it. Um,
- 55:12she deserves to be in a match like this, absolutely, but I don't
- 55:15think she's gonna win, because I think if Sky is gonna win, I
- 55:19think she's poised for a soul solo run has been for a while. Somebody
- 55:23else mentioned it, but I think Bailey is the jealous stablemate, will be
- 55:30terribly entertaining, probably lead to a feud with the two of them at some
- 55:35point. Yeah, I think she's got the most upside at this exact momentum.
- 55:44Yeah, Trish is great. I love the idea of her, you
- 55:46know, getting one of these modern belts that she's never had or whatever.
- 55:52But I just I don't think she's gonna be around long enough for it to
- 55:53make sense wasting the briefcase on her. And they keep they keep saying,
- 56:00um that what is six and zero seven? And oh that the women are
- 56:07no women have always cashed in successfully, so you gotta think, you gotta
- 56:10think failures coming, right. So, I don't know. I didn't really
- 56:17figure that into my calculus. Who I thought might win the briefcase but lose
- 56:22the cash in. But that's just something to think about. One of these
- 56:25years, it's gonna happen, right, Yeah, you think it wouldn't happen
- 56:30one of these years. But I know if anybody could successfully cash in,
- 56:32it could be EO. I could see, especially on the uh the SmackDown
- 56:37side, with the w W Women's title, that now that it's off of
- 56:40Bianca, I could see that title being essentially up for grabs for anybody on
- 56:46at least on that side. I don't know that we're going to see another
- 56:50long dominant run with that title on what the w W Women's title on SmackDown,
- 56:57especially since we're poised for Ria Ripley to be to be the one with
- 57:02the long term run. I don't think they want to monopolize both belts like
- 57:07that. I agree that's it. Carlos thinks, all right, Carlos,
- 57:15you got to you got free left. Who are you picking the Zoweys,
- 57:20Zelena or Bailey. I actually think that it is U probably gonna go to
- 57:27Trish. Yeah, there's not as much as I like the whole you know,
- 57:37Zelena and thing being able to get to it and things like that.
- 57:43I just don't see it. They have this whole thing where they're trying to
- 57:46push this LWO stable and have her be a part of it, but it's
- 57:52not really going anywhere. I think it's just there just to see if Ray
- 57:55can make it work. And like Zelena is a good worker. There's a
- 58:00reason why she was, like you know, put in that movie that they
- 58:05did about Page where she was playing Aju J's role in that movie when when
- 58:15Page wins, the title offer her the next day after WrestleMania. Excuse me.
- 58:22So she's a good worker, and I just don't think that she has
- 58:29the following or the like the fans enough to like bring in the money,
- 58:36whether it's in merch or in ticket sales and things like that. Or she
- 58:40can probably carry a few loud and carry and cut a couple of promos against
- 58:46somebody. But it looks like that stable right now is LW stable is currently
- 58:52like a face a baby face stable. So I don't see that happening.
- 58:58Um Zoe, Uh, it's under Trish and we all know underlying under a
- 59:05bigger name and this being a part timer, but we still don't know if
- 59:08she's a full if she's a part timer or a full timer, because she's
- 59:14been Trish has been more at shows than Roman has. She hasn't wrestled in
- 59:19them, but she's at least cut some promos or done some vignettes and things
- 59:23backstage or in the ring, unlike Roman who doesn't even show up or anything
- 59:28like that. Maybe like one or one per one SmackDown either before or after
- 59:37the pay per view, you know. So Bailey, we all know that
- 59:43she's kind of like building that whole rivalry with EO and that might lead to
- 59:49something. And that's probably something that gets built into that match where Baby's making
- 59:55her way up there or EO's making her way up there. Excuse me,
- 59:59that's the way I wanted to go, and then Bailey bumps her off and
- 1:00:02that starts the whole rift between them and leads to a match at summers Lam.
- 1:00:07So you know, basically, that's my reasoning. That's my dissertation,
- 1:00:13guys, this is my doctor's thesis, and why I think Trish is going
- 1:00:16to be the one who takes it mainly because she's she's still able to cut
- 1:00:23good promos, whether sometimes they hit or not, the majority that they've been
- 1:00:30getting better and she's gotten more time on the mic. And what better way
- 1:00:36for her to kind of groom or no mentor Zoe start than to at least
- 1:00:43have come off as the winner. What Zoe helping her win? Obviously the
- 1:00:47money, the women's money in the bank title. Right, we have a
- 1:00:53lot of well not a lot. We have two teams in here. We
- 1:00:58have Zoe and Trish and on Bailey, two women, two sets of women
- 1:01:04here who are going to definitely work together and then possibly turn on each other.
- 1:01:07Yeah, and see, I hear y'all about Trish. But I'm in
- 1:01:12the same mindset as Doyle. Trisha is a part timer, like she's here
- 1:01:16for a you know, a bit of a slightly extended one now. But
- 1:01:21like Doyle said, I don't see it being going past SummerSlam because, unlike
- 1:01:28Trish, Stratus may not have much notoriety here in the States outside of wrestling,
- 1:01:34but in Canada, she's actually a bona fide celebrity in Canada, like
- 1:01:38she coh, like she's one of the hosts on I think Canada's version of
- 1:01:43America's Got Talent, like Canada's Got Talent or something like that, or or
- 1:01:46X Factor or whatever one of those shows, those type of shows. She's
- 1:01:50a host on that, So she has legitimate celebrity status in Canada outside of
- 1:01:58just WWE. So she already has other commitments and such. So there's just
- 1:02:04I don't think she just has the room for an extended run in WWE like
- 1:02:09that, or to come back in any kind of a full timer. I
- 1:02:13think she has a she cleared out her schedule or had a gap in her
- 1:02:16schedule for these summer months and agreed to come back and work a program,
- 1:02:22you know, get a you know, do it obviously for the love of
- 1:02:25the game and to work with some the younger talent that she's never had a
- 1:02:30chance to work before. And also, you know, associate herself with a
- 1:02:35newcomer and give that person a boost and give them a launching pad to kick
- 1:02:38off their solo run on the main roster in the former zo We start.
- 1:02:43I think that's really about as far as it goes as far as with Trish.
- 1:02:46Now, you could maybe make the Logan Paul argument for Trip Stratus wing
- 1:02:51it in terms of you know, using her celebrity status along with the money
- 1:02:55in the bank briefcase. But I don't think it works the same way with
- 1:02:59Trip like it would with Logan Paul, because, yeah, Logan Paul,
- 1:03:04you can easily see him parading that briefcase around like it ain't nobody's business.
- 1:03:09I don't know that Trish, in her celebrity status in Canada, I don't
- 1:03:15know how much she uh plays up her wrestling persona in terms of in her
- 1:03:22celebrity status in Canada like I would. I can't see her seat being on
- 1:03:28Canada's got talent in the judge's chair and slapped them slapping the money in the
- 1:03:31bank briefcase on the table as well, like oh, by the way,
- 1:03:36y'all, while I was away from the show, you know, I wanted
- 1:03:37this thing here, like, I can't see that happening. So I don't
- 1:03:40think the Logan Paul argument could apply to Trisha as much. Yeah, all
- 1:03:45American celebrities are celebrities in Canada. Also, not all Canadian celebrities are also
- 1:03:51Americans exactly exactly, but there are these are a lot of Canadian celebrities who
- 1:03:58are celebrities, but most of the time it's because people don't realize that they're
- 1:04:00Canadian, like you know, Ryan Reynolds and such like, like one of
- 1:04:04the hosts of America's Got Talent Canadian, Howie Mandel. Huh yeah, Kerry
- 1:04:10Crews is the only person on that stupid show that is American. But yeah,
- 1:04:15I digress, right right. Yeah, a lot of people who are
- 1:04:18like Canadian celebrities that are huge in America, we don't realize they're Canadian or
- 1:04:23they made their fame here in the States any damn way. So Michael J.
- 1:04:27Fox, all right, guys, moving on. Uh, I don't
- 1:04:35know how we ended up here from uh, you know, being one of
- 1:04:43the main events of WrestleMania to going against Brock Lesner. So now Cody Rhodes
- 1:04:49versus Dominic Mysterio with Ria ripley Um. I find it weird that Ria isn't
- 1:04:57defending her title and instead she's gonna be in Dominic dom Dom's corner this time.
- 1:05:04Uh, I guess Cody. Cody is still nursing a injured wrist from
- 1:05:14Brock. Uh. He's not always kfavee with it. There's sometimes you can
- 1:05:17catch him with it not on Uh you know, he has that advantage of
- 1:05:21that titanium steel. Uh, they build submarines out of this stuff too soon.
- 1:05:33Oh my gosh. I mean, this is a match that it seems
- 1:05:38like nobody asked for. I I definitely didn't ask for it. Uh.
- 1:05:45Does Cody take an ell here from Dominic mysterio? I don't think so.
- 1:05:50I think, Uh, Cody's gonna make Dominic look pretty good in the ring.
- 1:05:55Uh. Dominic did very well when he faced stef Rollins. I remember
- 1:06:01Seth and him putting on a pretty good match. So I'm kind of hoping
- 1:06:04that Cody elevates him here and he puts on a really good match. There's
- 1:06:09gonna be some Riah Ripley Shanadian's going on here, but I kind of hope
- 1:06:15Cody Rhodes comes out as the winner on this. Drey, who do you
- 1:06:19think is to come out on top? Yeah? I kind of set a
- 1:06:25similar thing on in our discord, which you all should join if you're not
- 1:06:29in already use This match I think does have the potential to be a signature
- 1:06:38match for dom or at least a coming out match of sorts for Dominic if
- 1:06:43he can bring it in the ring, If he can really bring it in
- 1:06:46this match, and with the help of Cody, look pretty damn good.
- 1:06:53Then this can be a match that changes how people perceive Dominic masterial. Not
- 1:06:59saying from this point that they would start to cheer him or anything of that
- 1:07:01nature. No, he's the booze is way too strong. They ain't going
- 1:07:04away overnight off one match. But at the very least people can start to
- 1:07:09look at him as his own individual and as a legitimate singles competitor and not
- 1:07:15just raise son or a tag along in Judgment Day or as rear Ripley's sub
- 1:07:27Like he can stand on his own if he can bring it in this match.
- 1:07:30And because of that, I almost kind of want him to win through
- 1:07:33some sort of cheating shenanigans. So I'm gonna push my chips in on Dom
- 1:07:42and say that he wins this match. I think he's not gonna win it
- 1:07:45clean. He ain't about to just win and beat Cody. No, but
- 1:07:49he'll He'll cheat in some way, shape or form and get the win over
- 1:07:57Cody Rhodes wild Horse. We get a surprise appearance from Brock Lesner, who
- 1:08:02takes out Cody and enables Dom to win, setting up Cody versus Brock where
- 1:08:09would it be three at SummerSlam? Yeah? Yeah, the Big Three?
- 1:08:14All right? Uh, Doyle, who do you think is coming out on
- 1:08:17top? Well, I think we're definitely gonna get Cody Brock three. Apparently
- 1:08:25nowadays everything has to be a trilogy, and I don't know that we need
- 1:08:30in I kind of, in doing this realized I was booking interference in almost
- 1:08:34every match, so I actually cut the Brock interference from this one. H
- 1:08:42But he keeps talking about how he has this open challenge to Brock Lesner,
- 1:08:45right, so I don't know that he needs anything else to set it up.
- 1:08:49But anyway, that's not really good point. Um yeah, I mean
- 1:08:53I don't think there's much drama in this. I think, uh, I
- 1:08:56think Cody wins. It's just how we get there is really the clau You
- 1:09:00know, Normally a DOM match is going to be, you know, plagued
- 1:09:04by judgment day interference. But we've got Damien and Finn both busy elsewhere,
- 1:09:11so it's gonna be the Dom Dom and Mommy show, I think. So
- 1:09:15of course, Ray Ripley is going to loom large over this match. Uh.
- 1:09:18And I kind of had an inkling about something I thought might happen in
- 1:09:23this match. Uh, and then something on Raw the other night all but
- 1:09:28confirmed it in my uh my head cannon. Anyway, if you think back
- 1:09:32to Cody's time in a W he uh came out with this huge entourage,
- 1:09:39right Uh. You know he had Dustiny and arn Anderson, he had MGF
- 1:09:44MJF a little while he the Green Lantern guy um and oftentimes you would have
- 1:09:48his faithful dog Pharaoh, who we just saw on Raw finally for the first
- 1:09:54time. But I left somebody out, somebody. Uh. Maybe we'll see
- 1:09:59them as a one off. Maybe they'll become part of the story. I
- 1:10:01don't know, but do do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do do
- 1:10:05do do. I think we're gonna see Brandy here. I think she's gonna
- 1:10:10be a come out and get involved with Riha Ripley somehow, And it wouldn't
- 1:10:15surprise me to see her. Now that we've seen the Dog, I think
- 1:10:18she's next. There have been stories that she's been working out at the Performance
- 1:10:23Center. Uh. I'm not saying I endorse this idea, but I wouldn't
- 1:10:28surprise me at all if they stick her in with him and kind of add
- 1:10:33to his his presentation if you will. So, yeah, I think I
- 1:10:39think I think we're gonna see Cody win here, and I think he probably
- 1:10:43managed to get a pretty good match out of old Dommy there, and I
- 1:10:46think it'll elevate Tom in a loss. Uh, and that'll be the point.
- 1:10:53Can you imagine getting that phone call from Vince and then it's like we
- 1:10:57need you on raw and he's like, you really need me? You need
- 1:11:00me finally? No, no, we bring the dog. The dog got
- 1:11:06the phone call before she did. Carlos all right with this one. Yeah,
- 1:11:16I'm pretty much gonna give this to Dom winning via some type of interference.
- 1:11:23There's no way that this can go over where Dom actually beats him clean.
- 1:11:31Yeah, it would be nice probably if Cody can get to win here.
- 1:11:36But I think this is like the downward spiral that Cody is going through
- 1:11:43right here. You always gotta go and you always gotta fall before they pick
- 1:11:47you back up, right So this is uh, the downfall of Cody before
- 1:11:53they can build him back up. And maybe he can actually win that title
- 1:11:59for his dad in for his family. But right now we're going down down
- 1:12:03the We're circling the drain here, we're close to rock bottom. I'm sure
- 1:12:09that's how we feel with him losing this match to Dom, whether it's some
- 1:12:16type of interference with the distraction from Ray or Brock coming in, like everyone's
- 1:12:24mentioned to set up that Summer Slam trilogy fight or match. But yeah,
- 1:12:30I just can't see Cody winning this, and you know, just that's the
- 1:12:34end either if it's if Cody for some reason they they book Cody to win,
- 1:12:40it's not going to be the end. And we'll probably won't get Brock
- 1:12:43at Summer Slam. It will probably be like a maybe a Survivor series or
- 1:12:48something later on or whatever. And maybe he's it's something seasoned up in Canada
- 1:12:53and he's over there trying to save people from the forest fires. Who knows
- 1:12:57what Brock's doing right now, but I think I think, uh, it's
- 1:13:01gonna be done, okay, m Yeah, so we're I think we're two
- 1:13:08and two. Yeah. Another thing is like Cody kin was And speaking of
- 1:13:14which what happened? You brought up a good point about the downward spiral of
- 1:13:19Cody continuing. You know that was when't that your whole thesis, Doyle,
- 1:13:24that Cody had to be broken down to the to the bone, to the
- 1:13:29bare bone before we could build him back up. What happened to that?
- 1:13:30It was, But I just can't see a world in which Dominic Masterio beats
- 1:13:34Cody Brock. Well, yeah, if we were talking clean, then absolutely
- 1:13:40yeah, there's no way in hell that happens. Which is why I think
- 1:13:43I'm kind of leaning in on Brock making an appearance and interfering one. Brock
- 1:13:47would get a huge pop when he shows up just for the for the British
- 1:13:51audience and to be a surprise, and it provides a way for dom to
- 1:13:57get the win and go on, aren't talking shit about that? And Fee
- 1:14:01and Cody can easily just bounce off of this loss to Dominate like it's nothing
- 1:14:08and jump right back into the feud with Brock going into SummerSlam. I mean
- 1:14:13the loss would be almost, you know, almost a non factor to him.
- 1:14:20That's yeah, it would be huge for Tom. I mean, I'm
- 1:14:23not I'm not saying you guys aren't. Aren't swaying me a little bit here?
- 1:14:28But like I said, I had Brock in my original uh my original
- 1:14:33idea, I had Brock interfering, and then I realized I had interference in
- 1:14:38almost every match and this is the one you chose to cut out. Uh,
- 1:14:45the only the only match. I think we're assured that there won't won't
- 1:14:47be any uh any additions to the is the women's money in the bank match.
- 1:14:53Because everybody else already already has a title, is pregnant or insurance.
- 1:14:58There's nobody else left. That's so true. Hmm, that's pretty true,
- 1:15:02pretty much true. Uh yeah, all right, before we move on to
- 1:15:06this next one, I think we're gonna take a quick break, because I
- 1:15:11you'd take a peat break. No, I was only thinking about your happiness.
- 1:15:20I know, Dad, and I appreciate it. The problem now is
- 1:15:24that these people are expecting a show. Ladies and gentlemen. Mister Conway twitty
- 1:15:32nice, it's been as you Okay, after much relief, we are back.
- 1:15:53I thought I could make it all the way through. I could.
- 1:15:55I was like, I got to go. Uh next match on the car
- 1:16:00they have here, Seth freaking Rollins the world heavyweight Champion versus Finn bala Um.
- 1:16:09You know what, It's funny. We got this match already. We
- 1:16:13got this match literally before Seth won the world title. It was a qualifying
- 1:16:20match, and I don't know, like I was kind of like over it.
- 1:16:25I was like, I've already seen this match. I've seen this feud
- 1:16:28a couple of times. But if you know, Seth was telling Finn recently
- 1:16:33like, you know what what version of Finnbalor he wants? You know?
- 1:16:39And I kind of hope we get the version that Seth wants, you know,
- 1:16:44the more badass, not the the smiling or the uh, the goofy,
- 1:16:50you know, Finn Balor. I think he's slowly partying way. It
- 1:16:56looks like he might be slowly partying away from the Judgment Day. I would
- 1:17:00like to see Finnbalor on his own again, you know, maybe as a
- 1:17:03face I did. You know, I understand his character got stale after a
- 1:17:08while, but damn, like, you know, since Judgment Day, I
- 1:17:14kind of missed the old Finnbalor. You know, if he does win here,
- 1:17:17maybe that could catapult him into the old Finnbalor gimmick. But I don't
- 1:17:27unless if Damian Priest wins the money the Brank briefcase, then I most likely
- 1:17:33would change my mind. But I'm pretty sure Seth Rawlins is going to come
- 1:17:39out as champion. He's gonna retain. I don't see Finn walking away with
- 1:17:45any gold this weekend, Dre, Where do you sit on this one?
- 1:17:51Yeah, my money's on seth Rawlins and this one. Um, I just
- 1:17:56don't see them putting the World Heavyweight Championship on Seth Rowlins just to have him
- 1:18:03drop it at the very next pay per view. That's something that you usually
- 1:18:08reserve for transitional champions, for somebody that you want to you know, somebody
- 1:18:13like maybe like a little heel that you need to take the title real quick
- 1:18:16just so they can drop it to the next big baby face or what have
- 1:18:21you. You know that person that you just need to get it off one
- 1:18:25hands into another major person's hands, and you just need somebody to fill the
- 1:18:28gap in between Seth Rollins. Isn't that? And Finn Balor ain't the next
- 1:18:33big, big time champion either, at least not at this point, So
- 1:18:40I don't see Finn Balor beating him to win the title under any circumstances.
- 1:18:44That being said, I do think this is probably going to be the match
- 1:18:48of the night. I think they are actolutely going to put on a hell
- 1:18:51of a show between and in terms of performance, this match will this has
- 1:19:00five star potential, right like I said, yeah, I know you mentioned
- 1:19:03that we have seen these guys go at it before, but it's been a
- 1:19:06good while since we've seen them go at it, especially with the stakes this
- 1:19:12high, so and an and on a pay per view. Yeah, I
- 1:19:17believe these guys are definitely going to steal the show the night. This match
- 1:19:21I see easily going twenty five minutes, maybe even a fall a half hour,
- 1:19:27and they're just going to throw everything at each other. And I think,
- 1:19:31and honestly, I think it's gonna be just a one on one.
- 1:19:34I think this match is gonna be fairly clean. I don't see I don't
- 1:19:38think anybody's gonna interfere. I don't think anybody else from Judgment Day is gonna
- 1:19:41come to sets I'm gonna come to a Finnbaler's aid in any way, shape
- 1:19:44or form. I think this is just gonna be one on one, you
- 1:19:48know, one on one, top tier match, and Seth is gonna come
- 1:19:53out on top, all right, Doyle, Uh Yeah, this absolutely has
- 1:20:03matched the night potential for sure. Um. Yeah, I'm a huge Finn
- 1:20:09fan, but he has kind of been rudderless, uh, you know,
- 1:20:14while the profiles of his stable mats have kind of risen around him. You
- 1:20:17know, he hasn't really recovered from that kind of debacle of a hell on
- 1:20:21the Cell match at WrestleMania. Um. You know, uh, like I
- 1:20:28said, if this happens after the men's winning the bank match, it wouldn't
- 1:20:31rule out a same day cash in here. UM, but I think I
- 1:20:35think Seth wins here. But I don't expect that title reign to last much
- 1:20:41longer, honestly, UM, I could definitely see him getting cash in on
- 1:20:45or losing at Summer Slam, or even before Summer Slam. Uh. You
- 1:20:48know this is supposed to be the quote unquote you know Workhorse Championship. Uh,
- 1:20:54basically like a contrast to Roman and his titles. Um, you know
- 1:20:59it might not hurt to lose us to to uh for this title to change
- 1:21:02hands on raw sometime, you know, uh, just you know, so
- 1:21:06so that anything can happen and then you know, UM give it, give
- 1:21:12it some more credibility. UM. Sorry, if you can hear this crashing
- 1:21:16in the background anyway, UM, maybe this is where we get some advancement
- 1:21:23with Finn and whatever's going on with um what's the other Irish kid's name?
- 1:21:28Uh? JD. Mcdonnaugh. Is that right? Another more interference me booking,
- 1:21:34more interference. Um, but at any rate, I hope this is
- 1:21:39like a return to form for Finn. Uh, back to being that badass.
- 1:21:43That fucking promo on raw was fucking aces really good shit. Uh And
- 1:21:50you know, uh, we kind of need to be reminded of how good
- 1:21:54Finn Balor is, you know. Uh, we shouldn't have to be reminded,
- 1:21:58but he's been booked kind of shitty even and even as much as he's
- 1:22:01in a major heel faction, his booking has been the worst out of that
- 1:22:05whole group. And he's supposed to be the leader. Um. So yeah,
- 1:22:11you know, if this pay per view wasn't the Bloodline Civil War,
- 1:22:15it could be as the judgment Day Turns might be might be a good um
- 1:22:21I see what you did there, good title. Because all of these matches
- 1:22:27kind of inform each other a little bit to a degree. Everybody's busy,
- 1:22:30so maybe it won't be much interference on everybody's behalf like we usually get out
- 1:22:34of them. So yes, that's me. I'm not set. Uh.
- 1:22:38Finn might be on his own here, which is why I think maybe something's
- 1:22:43going on with that Jady mcdonoughan. Whether it's him joining them, joining the
- 1:22:47Judgment Day or Finni leaving the Judgment Day and going with him, who knows,
- 1:22:53But yeah, I think so that's gonna win. But this, this
- 1:22:55might be uh, this might be getting up in a four and a half
- 1:22:58five star territory the Judgment Days of our lives. Yes, exactly better.
- 1:23:06You know what could possibly happened, just throwing it out there as a possible
- 1:23:11scenario. We could see, maybe Damian Priest wins money in the bank,
- 1:23:19He's now mister money in the bank. We're Ripley is the women's world champion,
- 1:23:26Dominic Masterio beat Cody Rhodes, Finnbalor lost, and then they edge his
- 1:23:34ass and kick him out because he's the way. He's now seen as the
- 1:23:40weak link in the group, and that could be the opening for JD McDonough
- 1:23:47to take his place, not necessarily as the leader, but it's like,
- 1:23:50you're weak, you're bringing us down. Everybody else is doing their party in
- 1:23:55Judgment Day. You're not holding it. You're not holding up your end.
- 1:23:58You gotta go and we're gonna bring in some fresh meat. Somebody knew carl
- 1:24:09Or j D mcdonna's maybe somebody who's been pulling the cars behind, pulling strings
- 1:24:12behind the scene. Maybe he does come in as the new leader and he's
- 1:24:15been the guy just you know, behind the scenes in their ear like you
- 1:24:17know that motherfucking shit, right, you know he's trashed, right, I
- 1:24:20think gonna get his bomass up out of there, just throw it out there.
- 1:24:27It's say it in Gaelic though, all right, Yeah with this one,
- 1:24:33I think it's also gonna be uh Seth that comes off and pulls this
- 1:24:40off. But it could be like those things where it's not because of Seth.
- 1:24:50Uh. I'm not gonna say that he doesn't win it clean, but
- 1:24:56there's gonna be like some time of distraction for Finn, whether it is by
- 1:25:00JD McDonough or maybe maybe Finn might kind of poke his head in to try
- 1:25:08to help Damian priests win, because you've seen that that's been boiling up kind
- 1:25:13of you know, like they've been egging each other or kind of getting in
- 1:25:16each other's faces and getting on each other's nerves. So maybe Finn tries to
- 1:25:21go help Damian try to win the ladder, the money in the bank ladder
- 1:25:26match, and then fails miserably and then you know, Damian goes to repay
- 1:25:31the favor polls a distraction, not an interference, but just comes out there
- 1:25:35and just as Finn is gonna win, then he you know, comes out
- 1:25:42distracts Finn. Finn loses and that's how he gets taken out because he just
- 1:25:46cost the Damian, you know, the money in the bank briefcase. Shit,
- 1:25:56so many possibilities with the briefcase. Uh, they have this one as
- 1:26:03the fifth match of the night. The Bloodline Roman reigns and solo Sukoa with
- 1:26:13Paul Hayman versus the USOS Jay and Jimmy USO the Civil War The Bloodline Civil
- 1:26:19War tag team match. Uh, you know what, I kinda this storyline
- 1:26:29has been fucking phenomenal since begin beginning to end. Uh, it's still going.
- 1:26:35You know a lot of us thought like after WrestleMania, maybe this storyline
- 1:26:40would end, but no, it's still going. I also thought that this
- 1:26:44match we wouldn't even see it till like, I don't know, SummerSlam even,
- 1:26:48but we got it like right away. Um. You know, it's
- 1:26:55crazy to think from WrestleMania to how we got to hear Um, now that
- 1:27:02we finally have you know, like Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane out of the
- 1:27:06picture. You know, it's just solely focusing on the members of the Bloodline
- 1:27:15and we're finally getting that civil war we finally got. You know, the
- 1:27:19USOS picked their side, you know, Solo picked his side. We know
- 1:27:25where everybody stands uh. You know, last tag match Brains and Solo had
- 1:27:31together, they lost. You know, a lot of Shenanicans happened in that
- 1:27:35match, but you know, as one of the greatest tag teams of all
- 1:27:41time, the USOS, I kind of see them coming out on top.
- 1:27:45They you know, I guess it could go either way, but I want
- 1:27:50to see the USOS walk out, you know, with their heads held high.
- 1:27:55I want to see the USOS win this match. I think they need
- 1:27:58it. They haven't gotten in w in a while. They even uh you
- 1:28:02know ever since they lost those titles, they haven't gotten one. So what
- 1:28:05better two guys to get to win over than Roman and Solo. So,
- 1:28:14yeah, I got my money on Lusos on this one. Trey, who
- 1:28:17do you got your money on? Yeah, we're kind of in some uncharted
- 1:28:26territory with the Bloodline because I think for the first time in a good while,
- 1:28:30we have no idea whatsoever what direction this faction is going, or where
- 1:28:36any of them are going. It would seem like the direction would be the
- 1:28:43continued downfall of Roman reigns. But with the rumors that he's still gonna be
- 1:28:49champed, possibly to WrestleMania next year, you know, how much of a
- 1:28:55downfall, you know, or how long can they drag that out, or
- 1:29:00you know, how can he lose now at this point, having and still
- 1:29:08you know, seems strong going forward. Like so, this one's of all
- 1:29:13the matches in the on the car, this was the hardest one to pick
- 1:29:18because, like you said, there's a legit argument either way. The USO's
- 1:29:25sure they've been on a bit of a losing streak. They could use the
- 1:29:27wind over Roman and Solo. At the same time, it's it's Roman and
- 1:29:35you know, depending on how long they're gonna drag out this civil war,
- 1:29:41which I would assume this isn't going to be just a one and done thing.
- 1:29:44I would assume that this is going to continue beyond this pay per view,
- 1:29:47which would lead you to think that Roman and Solo put them down now,
- 1:29:54but still can't but they still refuse to fall in line, which is
- 1:30:00which would lead to the few continuing. So, man, you could really
- 1:30:05flip a coin on this one. This could really go either way. I
- 1:30:11think I'm going to go with Roman and Solo. I'm not confident in that
- 1:30:23pick. It's really it's truly a fifty fifty in my eyes. But I
- 1:30:29think I think the civil war continues to some extent even though the next pay
- 1:30:36per view of Summer Slam, and I'm almost certain that Roman's gonna have a
- 1:30:40title defense at Summer Slam. I I just think that they're going to have
- 1:30:50Roman and Solo beat the USOS. Man, I'm not confident in that pick
- 1:30:57at all. It is hard. This one is definitely a difficult pick.
- 1:31:02It's not it's not easy. H Doyle. Let's let's hear your thoughts on
- 1:31:09this one. Well, Roman better have a goddamn title defense at SummerSlam,
- 1:31:15because if he doesn't, it's gonna be one hundred and twenty five days without
- 1:31:20him defending the fucking title. It's crazy, ludicrous. What happened to the
- 1:31:25thirty day rule anyway? Um that should die with the Monday night warsh The
- 1:31:32match is kind of just window dressing to what happens after the match, right.
- 1:31:38I think the last few Roman matches have basically gone that way, where
- 1:31:43the end of the match is the end of Act two and then you get
- 1:31:46the whole other Act three after the match. So I expect that trend to
- 1:31:51continue, h I think. As as as for the match, I think
- 1:31:56Roman and Solo win because they lost last time. I can't see them losing
- 1:32:01two in a row. So after the match now, the rumor going around
- 1:32:08is that they're mulling over two different endings and they're both shocking. That's something
- 1:32:14to look forward to. What they will be I don't know, but here's
- 1:32:15my best guess. I could see something sort of like this, Roman and
- 1:32:19Solo win. Jimmy's incapacitated outside the ring. Somehow they tie up Jay and
- 1:32:28the ropes, or they handcuffing the ropes or something whatever. Roman gives the
- 1:32:31chair to Solo. He gives them the loyalty tests, right, and of
- 1:32:36course what is that? What happens? Solo lays out Roman, but then
- 1:32:40Solo also hits Jay, throws the chair down and leaves Hyman comes in the
- 1:32:45ring apoplectic, just totally in shock, and end scene, which sets up
- 1:32:51a fatal four way at Summer Slam between all four members of the Bloodline.
- 1:32:57The blood Line implodes. That's Ammers Slayer. I like that, Thoy,
- 1:33:05I like that. So all the Bloodline fighting each other for the title.
- 1:33:11Yeah, it's a possibility. Yeah. Ten years ago, the kickoff show
- 1:33:19for Money in the Bank pay per view was for the tag team Championships.
- 1:33:25It was the US versus Roman Brains and Seth Rowlands the champions. The more
- 1:33:30they change, the more they stayed the same, right, Carlos, what
- 1:33:38do you think. It's a tough decision, man, I think then it's
- 1:33:43gonna go with U Roman and U Solo. This is uh something that is
- 1:33:53not going to be a clean when there will be some interferience, um,
- 1:33:59because this is called the Bloodline. So now we have to figure out who
- 1:34:08in that wrestling family on what's the toile? You know the name of the
- 1:34:16Samoa family, thank you? Yeah. So one of those they, I'm
- 1:34:25sure they'll shake the tree and someone will fall out. Been hearing a lot
- 1:34:30of chatter that it might be the wrestling tag team that's known as the Girls
- 1:34:38a Destiny that might come in and start to replenish the Bloodline for Roman.
- 1:34:46That would be an interesting pick up if Vince or Hunter, whoever is in
- 1:34:51charge of booking the talent or signing the title the talent, can get those
- 1:34:56guys in there, because that would be a another way to continue running this
- 1:35:03storyline, because as Hunter said, where we were barely halfway, we weren't
- 1:35:09even halfway when they were done at WrestleMania, So I can't see that this
- 1:35:16would be the end. Just a couple of months after WrestleMania, we're already
- 1:35:24calling the end of the Bloodline. So there's always dougs and soldiers and other
- 1:35:31people that have to rise up in the ranks to replace the copos and all
- 1:35:38the generals and things along those lines, if I remember my fioso movie histories
- 1:35:45and books and things like that. So I don't know who they're gonna have
- 1:35:50come in and help Roman or Solo if they're in a losing predicament to change
- 1:35:58that to a win for bloodline, But I'm thinking that's where it's gonna go,
- 1:36:02and I predict that it's going to be Roman in the Solo with the
- 1:36:06w I can't believe Rakishi hasn't been involved in this in any way. Yeah,
- 1:36:13I keep waiting for that. Yeah, you keep seeing stories about him
- 1:36:16tweeting certain things like he's gonna pop up at some point. But I just
- 1:36:20I think they just don't have anything of substance for him to do other than
- 1:36:25show up, try to call for peace and then get his ship kicked in.
- 1:36:29I mean, I'm sure he isn't busy. Yeah, but like like
- 1:36:33other than like other than that, what could maybe? I mean it may
- 1:36:36be an opening now, Like suppose they do go the route of um,
- 1:36:42like you said, bringing in that other kind of ye tag team to replace
- 1:36:45the USO's in the bloodline, and then Jimmy and Jay are just kind of
- 1:36:49out there on their owner. Maybe they turned the Dad for some of the
- 1:36:51guidance. Maybe that's a role for him to play, at least on television.
- 1:36:56I damn sure don't see him if Rakishi would pop in, I wouldn't
- 1:36:59see him showing up in any type of wrestling capacity, but some type of
- 1:37:03mentoring or guidance, you know, godfather type capacity or something to give his
- 1:37:10voice some direction, or maybe try to plead to his son solo just to
- 1:37:14you know, catch a spike to the throat, keise you to come back.
- 1:37:18As a conciliary. Marlon Brando was to Michael and I thought I was
- 1:37:24out, they pulled me back in with spam. Yeah that's about it.
- 1:37:29But yeah, um well, here's the thing. Um, let's not discount
- 1:37:34I mean, and somebody said it, Uzo is maybe the greatest tag team
- 1:37:38of all time. Let's not discount how fucking great they both are. Uh
- 1:37:43right, And and you know, one of them said it in a promo
- 1:37:46like now they know us. You know, I didn't used to know the
- 1:37:49difference between Jay and Jimmy, but now I do. Uh. And you
- 1:37:54can't. I mean, I know there's these these rumors about, oh,
- 1:37:57Romans just gonna replenish the bloodline with all these other some o ones that are
- 1:38:01out there, and that's all well and good, but they're not the Uzzos,
- 1:38:05you know what I mean. Tried this with Roman before. What was
- 1:38:10the what were the authors of Pain or whatever? Right? Uh? And
- 1:38:14it sucked. It sucked. You know. Part of the reason the blood
- 1:38:17Line works is because the Uzzos are so fucking good. Uh. And maybe
- 1:38:24you can plug and play somebody. I don't know, but looks O forget
- 1:38:29how fucking amazing the Uzos are and just how much, how big a part
- 1:38:34they've been in the success of all of this. You know, they're not
- 1:38:38just bit players here, you know, they're there. Yeah, they got
- 1:38:42their name on the posted too, you know. Yeah, yeah, you're
- 1:38:45on correct, and that like, the blood Line does not go on this
- 1:38:48run that they've gone on without the usos. They were the workhorses out there
- 1:38:54doing it for the blood Line while Roman was popping in every other month.
- 1:38:58So yeah, you're one hundred percent right that, you know, they were
- 1:39:00the engine that made this Bloodline thing run for all these years without question.
- 1:39:08That being said that, I think that's what worked as far as keeping the
- 1:39:13blood Line on top of everyone else in WWE once you get into this Civil
- 1:39:17War thing that they're doing, especially if, like I said, if this
- 1:39:20is just if Civil War is like the next chapter in this long Bloodline storyline,
- 1:39:27because honestly, at the rate they're going, it seems like Bloodline about
- 1:39:30to be the one piece of WWE that just goes on forever. But if
- 1:39:34this is like the next chapter and this Civil War thing goes on for again
- 1:39:40months on end, then yeah, it can't just be these four going at
- 1:39:44it. There's got to be some new faces who can come in and as
- 1:39:48long as it's within the Bloodline that's happening, then there is opportunity for another
- 1:39:55tag team to come in and they don't have to worry about, you know,
- 1:39:59trying to be above everybody else in the WW because their conflict is internal.
- 1:40:02Their few would be mostly with the USOS and whoever the USOS may call
- 1:40:08in possibly to their side, and that other tag team can get over by
- 1:40:14being by just by virtual being involved in the Bloodline storyline. And they could
- 1:40:18also just have them whoop up on some other tag team occasionally that may decide
- 1:40:23they want to peek their head into Bloodline business and then they could just get
- 1:40:27stumped out by the new tag team to like, my backup does don't concern
- 1:40:30you? So you know, there there is room for another tag team to
- 1:40:34come in and not necessarily replace the USOS, but just be another piece on
- 1:40:39the proverbial chess table. I'm really excited for this match now and to see
- 1:40:47how it all pans out after this, you know, I mean they're planning
- 1:40:53such a big Yeah, I'm hoping this one kind of made events. Actually,
- 1:40:58yeah, I think it absolutely is gonna be like whatever listing you're reading
- 1:41:02from I think it is just a listing of the matches. But yeah,
- 1:41:05obviously that's not going to be the order of it. I mean, we
- 1:41:08haven't even talked about the Intercontinental title matched yet that's on the show. We
- 1:41:11haven't even talked about that awesome women's segue into that. I couldn't even get
- 1:41:17that out when I'm laughughened Rodda Rousey and Shanna Basler the tag team champs undisputed
- 1:41:26tag team champs. Let me rephrase that versus returning live Morien and Raquel Rodriguez
- 1:41:32Um. Recently, Rodna and Shana acquired the n XT women's tag titles.
- 1:41:42Uh, And I guess that that's it. Like they're just defunct now,
- 1:41:46like they're just gone, like real, they're vacant. I don't know if
- 1:41:49they go back to NXT. I don't I don't know what happens with them.
- 1:41:53I think they've I think they've just been integrated into a single, a
- 1:41:56singular tag team championship at least fandom on all three brands, SmackDown Raw in
- 1:42:03NXT. Yeah, I think that's Yeah, they better show up on NXT
- 1:42:09then, Like you know, Bailey and Sasha Banks used to do that show
- 1:42:13up on NXC. It was exciting, so let's hopefully we see that.
- 1:42:17It may be weird to see Ronda and NXT, but you know, that's
- 1:42:21where Shana dominated was an NXT. That mean, you know, before she
- 1:42:26got brought to the main roster and then kind of watered down. I mean,
- 1:42:30she was dominating an XT for quite some time as champion, so it's
- 1:42:35nice to see it would be nice to see her back there. And it's
- 1:42:39nice to see Live Morga back. I didn't think she was gonna be back
- 1:42:42so soon. Um, you know, and now they get a title shot
- 1:42:45against the title for the titles that they lost, um, not necessarily to
- 1:42:50Ronda and Shana just had to you know, give them up. Uh,
- 1:42:56you know, poor Raquel had to give up her title and now she has
- 1:42:59a for him back. You know, didn't even let her pick another tag
- 1:43:04team partner. I mean this one for me, I think they're going to
- 1:43:12continue with Ronda and Shana as champions. I don't think, you know,
- 1:43:15Live and Raquel are gonna get them back anytime soon, because I think in
- 1:43:18the long run, I think that was the initial plan was to put them
- 1:43:23on. Ronda and Shana and you know, just beating the ANNEXC Women's champions.
- 1:43:28I think it's said. I think they're gonna hold on to them for
- 1:43:33a little bit longer. Drey, what do you think? Do you think
- 1:43:39they're gonna lose these titles anytime soon? Unfortunately No. As much as I
- 1:43:45want to Live In Raquel to win the belts back and at least be champions,
- 1:43:53that we can get decent matches out of entitled defenses, I just don't
- 1:44:00think that's the direction w W wants to go. I think they want the
- 1:44:03star power of Ronda Rousy and to a lesser extent, Shanna Basler as the
- 1:44:09dominant heel tag team beaten up on whoever they decided to slap together and put
- 1:44:15against them in a random week, and that's just pretty much gonna be for
- 1:44:24the most part. Like I don't, I don't think there's much drama to
- 1:44:27this match or much really much intrigue. I would again, I would love
- 1:44:31if Live with Raquel won the belts, but I just I don't think it's
- 1:44:34gonna happen. It's gonna be a standard, fair match. Shana Beaseler is
- 1:44:38probably gonna do most of the work in the match, and then Rondo will
- 1:44:42pop in at some point and slap an armbar on one of them and get
- 1:44:45a pen or get a submission. H yeah, uh Doyle, what are
- 1:44:54you thinking? Well, I've got some crow to eat U. You know,
- 1:44:59just just a few weeks ago, on this very program here, I
- 1:45:02postulated that the women's tag team division was finally gearing up to get their act
- 1:45:08together. And boy was I wrong. You spoke too soon. Yeah,
- 1:45:14in my defense, almost immediately Live in Dakota Kai both got injured and they
- 1:45:18were big parts of my revitalization plan. Uh yeah, I Live is back
- 1:45:24here. I had a schedule. But I have to ask why this is
- 1:45:30unbelievably bad booking. If you're going to unify the NXT and the main roster
- 1:45:36titles, which I think is a wonderful idea by the way, and you
- 1:45:41have a pay per view in two weeks, and that pay per view was
- 1:45:44in the UK, and your NXC tag champions one of their names Isla Don
- 1:45:49and Alba fire right, yeah they're from the UK. Like, why in
- 1:45:55the hell wouldn't you unify the titles at the pay per view? Why not
- 1:46:00making a big deal if you're trying to make these titles a big deal and
- 1:46:04why not have return after that match if you want to make it a big
- 1:46:10moments like, shut up with your good ideas. It's just fucking awful,
- 1:46:19awful button. Yeah, NXT girls could have gon in as huge faces in
- 1:46:25that match, even if they're not meant to be faces. They would have
- 1:46:27been over as hell. That would have helped you get huge. He'll heat
- 1:46:30on Shana and Ronda, as if they don't already have enough, but at
- 1:46:34least it'd be invested. He'll heat and not just go away. He'll heat.
- 1:46:39Yeah. Yeah, And you're and you're doing this too much title unification
- 1:46:42on pay per view and it's a big deal, right exactly, And and
- 1:46:45you're making these new girls from NXT looks stupid because, uh, the Franken
- 1:46:50team of Raquel Rodriguez and Live Morgan is way more important than they are.
- 1:46:57Uh you just I feel like just doing this match two weeks later accomplishes so
- 1:47:03many things, and doing it the way they did it fucked up so many
- 1:47:08things. It's just like, what the It's mind bogglingly bad. But yeah,
- 1:47:14I think Rhonda and bays their win. I think they will eventually feud
- 1:47:18with each other, the sooner the better because I'm so sick of them.
- 1:47:27I like Shana, but god, damn, what do I not like Rhonda
- 1:47:30that much? So yeah, I think the Champter ten oh h m hmm,
- 1:47:40Carlos, Yeah, putting it down for another sweep. Shana and Rhonda
- 1:47:45win just because this booking right now for Raquel and lived to win does not
- 1:47:55make any sense at all. And you can't take the belts off of them
- 1:47:59because you thought Lid was gonna be out longer and then she's back and you're
- 1:48:04like, Okay, well let's put the boats back on her. No,
- 1:48:08so it's done, deeal Shana, Ronda, Let's just move on to the
- 1:48:14next match. Gunter and Matt Riddle. Yeah, that's a shame too,
- 1:48:20because Ronda as a person, it seems very likable as a person, but
- 1:48:26damn, she just just the end ring performance just is not there. Yeah,
- 1:48:33and it also doesn't show any signs of improvement or like she's really worked
- 1:48:38at it to try to get better. It's like she's just like, I'm
- 1:48:41here, I'm good enough. And because she's being booked so strong, she
- 1:48:45doesn't have any real incentive to try to improve and get better, so that
- 1:48:49way she could work her way up a card. That's the problem when you
- 1:48:53put somebody immediately at the top. I think a manager would do that in
- 1:48:57the world. Are good well, SHANEA and Ronne you pair them with like
- 1:49:02right now, there's not that many women managers or male managers besides Paul Hayman
- 1:49:11that are out there talking. Yeah, so true. Yeah, I don't
- 1:49:15have a suggestion of you know, I can't think of anybody who would be
- 1:49:19a strong mouthpiece for them, because you would think it would have to be
- 1:49:24somebody like kind of sort of m uh MMA connected. But most of the
- 1:49:30other people they have in the on the roster that a MMA connected are like
- 1:49:33in developmental territory and such. So yeah, there really isn't somebody who that's
- 1:49:40retired that could could talk. Well, I don't know, they're supposed to
- 1:49:45be talking to Amanda Nunas now that she retired, But Amanda nuns need to
- 1:49:54stay right where she yet stay retired, don't don't. I don't need to
- 1:50:00come up and here in the w W and mess around with none of this.
- 1:50:03I'm sure they would look, you know, Vincent endeavoring them would love
- 1:50:08for Amanda New Year's to jump to w W and do it. But now
- 1:50:13no, they retired, Amanda, unless your Mike skills is off the chain
- 1:50:17and you want to come in here and be the manager. Yeah, very
- 1:50:21true. All right, Well, the quote unquote main event that they had
- 1:50:28listed here, I'm reading this off of Wikipedia, by the way. Uh
- 1:50:31so I think Wikipedia just listed those matches in the order that they were announced
- 1:50:42exactly, because not the actual card inc title was very last minute. Uh
- 1:50:49you know this week? Yeah? Yeah, really, I think if we're
- 1:50:55gonna get any big returns, uh you know, there's a lot of rumors
- 1:51:00spent around that Orton is ready to come back. I you know, I
- 1:51:04don't see Riddle being another guy to be another guy who most likely would be
- 1:51:12Gunther. I see him taking a lot of chops to the chest. I
- 1:51:15see him getting his ass beat, and I see Guther walking out as the
- 1:51:20Intercontinental Champion again. Uh yeah, this could even be like the first match
- 1:51:26of the night. You know, I could see this being the first match.
- 1:51:30Um. You know, you know, talking briefly on Orton, if
- 1:51:34he does come back, I would like, you know, it sounds like
- 1:51:38Orton is kind of winding down his career especially after this recent injury. It
- 1:51:43would be really cool to see, um, you know, maybe Riddle turn
- 1:51:46heel on Orton because everybody suspects, you know, Orton to turn heel.
- 1:51:51It would be nice to see Riddle instead. Uh you know, honest,
- 1:52:00I don't know where Gunther goes from here. You know, I guess Riddle
- 1:52:02was just another person for him to get to get fed to him. We
- 1:52:06did go through the roster a couple of times to see who else you know,
- 1:52:11Guinther could could take out I mean, returning Rainy Orton could be a
- 1:52:16good match. But as far as I'm concerned, Guther is gonna walk out
- 1:52:21in a corneal champion. The rain is going to continue. Drey. Yeah,
- 1:52:30Um, as Ginther broken Honky tonk Man's record yet, uh no,
- 1:52:39he is seventy one days away, then there's no chance in hell of Matt
- 1:52:43Riddle winning this fucking match, because I think it's pretty much guaranteed that Ginther
- 1:52:47is going to break the Honky talk Man's record. That being said, I
- 1:52:53don't think necessarily that Riddle's going to get his ass kicked. I'm not gonna
- 1:52:58go that far with it, um, because I did not know this until
- 1:53:08literally just like today, yesterday. But Riddle and Guilt have some history with
- 1:53:15each other outside of WWE. They've actually wrestled quite enough. Yeah, quite
- 1:53:19a number of times. And uh, I'm trying to find the name of
- 1:53:24the promotion now I can't. I think it's maybe as some New York based
- 1:53:28promotion progress something, right, right, right, all right? Yeah,
- 1:53:40All I'm saying is that these guys have wrestled before, so they have history,
- 1:53:43so they have some chemistry, which means the potential is there for them
- 1:53:45to put on a pretty damn good match if they are you know, uh
- 1:53:54tied, if their hands are tied by WWE. And in terms of you
- 1:53:59know, how much time they're given to work in this match, which I
- 1:54:02imagine they probably will be limited to a certain extent, I'm not I don't
- 1:54:05think they're gonna get like a thirty minutes to work. But if they're given
- 1:54:11a good solid, you know, fifteen, ten to fifteen minutes, at
- 1:54:15least more towards fifteen, I think they can put on a really good match
- 1:54:19because they got history, they have familiarity. This could be a this could
- 1:54:24be a sleeper match, This could be one of the better matches of the
- 1:54:28night. But obviously Gother is gonna fucking win and hold onto the belt whether
- 1:54:35ready Orton shows up, I don't think so because it obviously, you know,
- 1:54:44I don't think uh, Gother's gone a pretty good job of kind of
- 1:54:48not relying on too much interference to win his matches. He kind of gets
- 1:54:56fairly clean at the end. A clean wins when it's all said and done.
- 1:55:00There's some shenanigans take place throughout the match, at some point, he
- 1:55:02still kind of finishes off his matches pretty cleanly. So I don't think we're
- 1:55:10gonna get a Randy Orton return or anything of that nature in this match.
- 1:55:13I think it's just going to be a one on one and one on one.
- 1:55:16It's gonna be a good match, and Gunther is just going to win.
- 1:55:24Doyle. Yeah, I mean, this definitely should be a fun match.
- 1:55:29You know, they say styles make fights, right, and I think
- 1:55:32these are two styles that are gonna go pretty well together. I didn't realize
- 1:55:38they had that history. I don't know if that pretends to anything, but
- 1:55:44it can't hurt for sure. But I mean, Gunther's fucking awesome and Riddle
- 1:55:50can be awesome when he wants to be. But yeah, gun Gunther Gunther
- 1:55:56wins when he finally loses. And yeah, they've they've painted themselves into a
- 1:56:01corner a little bit with him. It's gonna have to be huge, right,
- 1:56:06Um, I said, seventy one days away from hockey dog Man.
- 1:56:12Honkey's at uh four or fifty three? Gunth's coming in at three eighty two,
- 1:56:16so a little over two months to catch Honkey tonk Man. I expect
- 1:56:23that that's gonna happen. Um, But they're running out of people, you
- 1:56:28know, like, which is why I think a cash in Mike could work.
- 1:56:31Uh, because it's gonna take some fucking herculean effort effort to beat him
- 1:56:39at this point. Uh So yeah, I think Gunthan wins. I don't
- 1:56:43you know, I really liked riddle Um before his suspension, but since he's
- 1:56:48come back, I just kind of haven't been into him. I think he's
- 1:56:53kind of annoying. I think he's a little too close to naked from my
- 1:56:58tastes. Uh somebody who somebody just said he'll turn onto him? Uh,
- 1:57:04you're Wayne, I can't remember which one. I think that would be spectacular,
- 1:57:10Actually, that could be really good. Maybe dump the bro shit,
- 1:57:15uh and just going to like stone cold killer mode. I think he could
- 1:57:18do that. Perhaps he needs to shake something out, he needs a change.
- 1:57:24I've seen her read some some way shape or form. Uh. But
- 1:57:30yeah, I don't. I don't expect Gunther to lose the championship here not
- 1:57:33not here, not now. Carlos, Yeah, it's just gonna lose the
- 1:57:40championship. No, Gunter is not gonna lose the championship. Um. Pretty
- 1:57:45much everyone seems to be on the Matt Riddle needs a change or something van
- 1:57:55wagon that I started last week in the discord. Well, I was wrong
- 1:58:01saying that he was going to be off TV for a little bit, but
- 1:58:05I did say he needed to do a little bit of rework or his gimmick.
- 1:58:10And it looks like everyone here agrees with me. So could it be
- 1:58:17that maybe we do get a cameo or a little bit of interference from Randy
- 1:58:26on this show. Possibly, And I'm not sure. I thought i'd read
- 1:58:31somewhere headlined that said that he had just had his surgery, if not last
- 1:58:36week, a couple of weeks ago, and they're just seeing how it goes.
- 1:58:42So I don't think he'll come out and do anything physically. Maybe he'll
- 1:58:48record something and they'll played on the Titan Tron or you know, something along
- 1:58:56those lines where it's like he doesn't have to be there, but the ghost
- 1:59:00of Randy has to be there to throw Riddle off or kind of get them
- 1:59:05excited. And then that's when Gunter or maybe who's with them right now,
- 1:59:12kaiser, oh, some type of in apparence, and then that's what that
- 1:59:18little bit of a distraction, just like I said earlier, causes Riddle to
- 1:59:24slip up, and that's how Gunter takes advantage. Yeah, yeah, I
- 1:59:30kept looking it up. And they have history going back to a like I
- 1:59:33said before, a promotion called Progress Wrestling, which apparently is a independent wrestling
- 1:59:40promotion and Great Britain and the Over in the UK, So they have history
- 1:59:45going back there, and apparently they've they wrestled or had a feud over the
- 1:59:50Progress Wrestling Atlas Championship, which I believe is apparently their mid card title.
- 1:59:57I guess they're equivalent of a US type, the orient A Continental Championship.
- 2:00:01So yeah, so they wrestled a few times. You're thinking of Walter,
- 2:00:06Yeah, yeah, totally different guy, right, Long lost Twine guy,
- 2:00:19gosh, uh holy craft. Well this card, I don't know. I'm
- 2:00:28pretty I'm pretty excited. But you know, the two money in the Bank
- 2:00:31matches, I'm excited to see a really good match between Seth Rollinson Finn Balor.
- 2:00:35I'm excited to see the outcome of the civil War matches. How many
- 2:00:43was it? Seven? So you might get one on Friday? Yeah,
- 2:00:47oh we should you know now that on the subject of that, we should
- 2:00:50probably make the prediction on that because I mean, it's not part of the
- 2:00:55pay per view, but this SmackDown Friday is taking place from the UK and
- 2:01:00it has a pretty big match that, for my money, should probably replace
- 2:01:05the damn tag team match on the show if they really wanted to, you
- 2:01:09know, make this a fully maxed out card. And we got Oscar taken
- 2:01:13on Yo, girl, Wayne, you know that might be the last match
- 2:01:20they add to the card. No, it's already a triple threat because Bianca
- 2:01:25gets involved and doesn't they've already they've they've said it for weeks now that match
- 2:01:29is happening on SmackDown. No, he could still happen interfering and they're gonna
- 2:01:35have a triple threat. Yeah, because Bianca's tired of waiting and getting set
- 2:01:40aside for Charlotte, so she goes in there. They still have the match
- 2:01:44technically, but it doesn't have to be completed. I don't think they're gonna
- 2:01:48do that. I don't think they're gonna pump fake on that show because I
- 2:01:51mean, because I said, the show's taking place in the in the UK,
- 2:01:55so they still got to put on a good show. I don't see
- 2:01:58them, and you know, they still got the crowd there for that night.
- 2:02:00I don't I don't see them having that match, pump faking it and
- 2:02:04then pushing it into the next night on the pay per view. College is
- 2:02:08subject to change, sir, I know that's the thing. But I think,
- 2:02:15obviously I think Bianca's gonna play a role in the match some one way
- 2:02:18or there another. Well, I take it back, obviously, I don't
- 2:02:23think Bianca's going to interfere in the match. I think it's just gonna be
- 2:02:26on one on one match and I'm gonna predict that. Well. I'm rooting
- 2:02:32for Oscar hard yeah, and I think, for what for my money,
- 2:02:40I think Oscar should win the match as well. And then I think going
- 2:02:45into SummerSlam, we should get a triple threat match between Charlotte Bianca and Oscar.
- 2:02:53That's what I think should happen, so because I don't think it doesn't
- 2:02:59one, I don't. I don't think they're gonna shot on Oscar like that
- 2:03:00again by having her win the title and then immediately drop it again shortly thereafter,
- 2:03:05like they did her first title run. I don't think they're gonna do
- 2:03:09that. I don't think Charlotte is back is to be a transitional champion to
- 2:03:14put the title back on Bianca again after she just lost it. So I
- 2:03:16don't think that's gonna happen. I hope they don't. Fucking I don't think
- 2:03:23they've brought Charlotte back just immediately make her a champion again like they did earlier
- 2:03:27this year where she snatched the belt off Ronda, just to be the transitional
- 2:03:30champion to get it on the Riha ripley at WrestleMania. So I think Oscar
- 2:03:36wins and retains the title somehow. Maybe Bianca does call Charlotte the match,
- 2:03:43which leads to them feuding and to the triple threat match, but I think
- 2:03:46Oscar wins, wins the title, defends her title successfully. This Friday on
- 2:03:53SmackDown. Yeah, as I've said before, you gotta pump the brakes on
- 2:03:57giving Charlotte championships. Otherwise she's gonna end up with forty seven, right you
- 2:04:02know, like it's just gonna be some ridiculous number, uh, which means
- 2:04:08that eventually they're gonna have to give somebody else forty eight, you know,
- 2:04:12like uh uh so yeah, they're gonna pump the brakes on Charlotte a little
- 2:04:16bit. She can't win every match. She's like fourteen right now. That's
- 2:04:21what I'm saying, a new time. If you keep winning four titles a
- 2:04:27year every year for the next time, I don't know, five years,
- 2:04:30that's twenty more. Yeah, she's a lot of time left in her career.
- 2:04:36So that's what I'm saying. Holy shit, Like Rick did say he
- 2:04:41wanted her to pass his sixteen times. So yeah, but she's gonna have
- 2:04:48twenty eight, like it's gonna be ridiculous. Um yeah. Well, anyway,
- 2:04:56like this is one of the longer cards we've had in a while.
- 2:05:00Uh, a lot of them. I feel like the last couple have been
- 2:05:02five six matches, you know this, What have we got seven? Maybe
- 2:05:06eight? It's a pretty strong card too, aside from the women's tag match.
- 2:05:11Right, we don't even have the men's tag team titles on the line
- 2:05:15here either. No, Oh, you know what I wanted to talk about,
- 2:05:18alternate multiverse match bank match, Like all the people that aren't in the
- 2:05:25money in the bank match is also kind of weird, right, Like I
- 2:05:28could have seen the world where you had Uzo's, you had um um Ko
- 2:05:35and Sammy, you had Dominic, Like I imagine Dominic with the briefcase like
- 2:05:42that would have been. That would have been great. Like there's a lot
- 2:05:45of I thought a lot of people that would be in this match were just
- 2:05:48not even anywhere near it. If Tom can get over not being able to
- 2:05:56talk over or not letting the crowd get to him because he can't get any
- 2:06:02of his any of his promos out because the crowd's always over there booing the
- 2:06:08heck out of him. If he can finally find a way to try to
- 2:06:13talk through it or get his lines out, it will probably help him get
- 2:06:19some more confidence going out there, because that I think that's one of the
- 2:06:25things that he hasn't learned is the crowd control, and he needs to learn
- 2:06:29that because he's got the heat. He's got way too much heat that he
- 2:06:34doesn't know how to handle. Yeah, I'm sure if he was able to
- 2:06:39handle, they'd be putting them in the money in the bank title match or
- 2:06:43you know, the briefcase match. Yeah, that's a good point. He
- 2:06:46has probably more heat than anybody on the roster. At the same time,
- 2:06:53I also think crowds need to calm the fuck down because at this point it's
- 2:07:00almost become like a the heat he has is almost become like a game with
- 2:07:03the audience. Now, like how Seth Rollins comes out and they just have
- 2:07:08to do the chant non stop for as long as possible, and it was
- 2:07:14got so ridiculous that they just you know, damn there couldn't the promo that
- 2:07:18him and Seth, I mean that Seth and Finn had in the ring almost
- 2:07:21couldn't happen because the crowd wouldn't shut the fuck up. And fortunately, you
- 2:07:26know, a guy like Seth's so it's so masterful with the mike that he
- 2:07:30was able to regain control of that situation so that they could get their little
- 2:07:34promo off. And yeah, Dom doesn't have that ability yet to take control
- 2:07:42and of of a crowd like that he just but Dom does have the u
- 2:07:47rampant up ability that were like, he's got some of the little things like
- 2:07:51the really slow, deliberate bring bringing the microphone up to his face and right
- 2:07:57right, yes he has he has the presidence and you can tell he kind
- 2:08:00of has that that feeling he's getting there. What the point I was getting
- 2:08:05that was that hopefully if he has a good match with Cody, that can
- 2:08:09get anough, that can garner some respect from the audience that they won't boo
- 2:08:15him as much. They'll still boo him, but at least they'll kind of
- 2:08:18maybe shut the hell up a little bit and let him actually talk on the
- 2:08:24mic, because at this point, I don't even know if they're even giving
- 2:08:26him anything to actually say on the mic. They're just like I just act
- 2:08:31like you're about to say something. They're just gonna booth the living shit then
- 2:08:33one of y'all take over, Like he might not even be going out there
- 2:08:35with any kind of real script to actually work with because the crowd is so
- 2:08:41so invested in just booing the living shit out of him. Like I said,
- 2:08:43it's almost like a game to them now to like, let's actually try
- 2:08:48to prevent him from talking, So he's got to do something to break through
- 2:08:50that, and I don't know if he's gonna be able to do it on
- 2:08:52the mic. So if he can't do it on the mic, he's got
- 2:08:56to do it in the ring, right, So hopefully this match with Cody
- 2:09:00can be that to sort of kind of break the ice with the audience to
- 2:09:03where they can actually let him talk, because again, like I said,
- 2:09:07these crowds kind of be getting a little bit out of handle recently on TV
- 2:09:13too. He just needs to wrest some more period too. Yeah, then
- 2:09:20he gets put on a match with uh, he gets put it right on
- 2:09:26the car then you know, with Cody Rhodes at all people of all fucking
- 2:09:31people. Well, yeah, I know, right, nothing right now.
- 2:09:39I think after this pay per view, we're gonna be getting the Summer Slam
- 2:09:43Well NXT, Great American Bash, and then Summer Slam. Summer NXT gives
- 2:09:50me something a wild child, go ahead and make sure right put then on
- 2:09:52my calendar. If not, I'm gonna go ahead and watch the new Japan
- 2:09:56Gee one Tournament. I was tempted to turn on to NXT when Seth Rawns
- 2:10:03was on the other week, but then I was like, well, that
- 2:10:05ain't Seth title against Broun Breaker. Honestly, I do such an argument with
- 2:10:11people over that, over that match, not in terms of who would win
- 2:10:16back and forth, but why they put it on NXT right It to me,
- 2:10:22it made so much It would have made so much more sense to put
- 2:10:24that match on Raw instead of NXT, because one, it's the Raw I
- 2:10:31mean, I granted, yes, the World Heavway Title is not technically a
- 2:10:35Raw exclusive belt, although it kind of sort of is. And if you're
- 2:10:41the champion and the guy's challenging you, he should come to you exactly the
- 2:10:48challenge. You shouldn't be having to go down to where he's a even if
- 2:10:50you are the fighting champion, you can fight on your own damn show.
- 2:10:54The challenger comes to the champion to fight. And if you want to get
- 2:10:58braun Breaker some exposure and get him seeing some bore people for his eventual call
- 2:11:05up, you're gonna get more eyes if you see him on Raw. Then
- 2:11:09by then, from whatever little bump you're gonna get in ratings from Seth Rollins
- 2:11:13coming down to NXC, which admittedly they did get a considerable bump to the
- 2:11:18show or they got like damn near a million viewers at night, like nine
- 2:11:22undre something thousand viewers for that match. So it did get a bump,
- 2:11:26but that bump is still not on the level of what a regular RAW does.
- 2:11:31Yeah, so he still didn't get as many eyes as you could have
- 2:11:35gotten head you put it on Raw. But again, that was just argument
- 2:11:39I was having with people online, and you're telling me Mustafa Ali and Baron
- 2:11:45Corbyn aren't bumping those numbers. You know what, though, when I saw
- 2:11:50that he was going to challenge him for the world title, I was like,
- 2:11:56calm down, hold on their rookie, Like, you're not even on
- 2:12:00the main roster and you're gonna challenge the world everyweight check, you're gonna jump
- 2:12:03ahead of everybody else. I was like, calm down. I yeah,
- 2:12:09I was. I'm just curious to know why, Like he hasn't been called
- 2:12:13up to the main roster. I guess they need. You know, it
- 2:12:16was weird because he was like the the one guy I thought out of anybody
- 2:12:20on that roster that was gonna get called up, and he was the one
- 2:12:24guy they'd left behind. I was on an impression that it was because he
- 2:12:28turned heel and they wanted his heel character to cook a little longer. Yeah
- 2:12:33yeah, and I totally get that. And it's and it's working, you
- 2:12:37know, for now, it's working. I mean, hell, he could
- 2:12:41debut on the main roster before you know, WrestleMania even you know, he's
- 2:12:46still got some time, but he's cooking. Uh, Doyle. You recently
- 2:12:56we first we posted our first blog on our website. Sit. Um,
- 2:13:01do you want to give a brief description of what that was? About that
- 2:13:03rant you gave? Well, I kind of got into a little bit earlier,
- 2:13:11but um, yeah, Roman reigns hasn't defended the uh what are we
- 2:13:16calling it now? The undisputed Yeah, undisputed WWE Universal Championship if he if
- 2:13:30he if he doesn't defend it again until SummerSlam. He hasn't defended it since
- 2:13:33Wrestleman. Yea, it's one hundred and twenty five days, uh, four
- 2:13:37months. Uh you know, and it's just it's just it's just silly to
- 2:13:43have the you know, most important prize in professional wrestling never defended. Um.
- 2:13:52It accounts for twelve percent almost of his total reign and he's never defending
- 2:13:58this belt. Let me just makes it a little a little uh, a
- 2:14:01little less impressive, I think. And you know this bloodline thing. You
- 2:14:05know, how long have we spend speculating on the next you know what the
- 2:14:09next chapter is going to be? Uh, it's it's one of the greatest
- 2:14:13stories you've ever told. Um, But how much better could it be if
- 2:14:18the centerpiece of it and what the whole fucking sport quote unquote it's supposed to
- 2:14:22be about, is this world championship. How much better it would be if
- 2:14:28we saw defended a little more often? H Yeah. And if anybody else
- 2:14:35one of our listeners want to put something on the blog, just reach out
- 2:14:39to me, let me know, I'll post it. You know, you
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- 2:14:56all the episodes are on our website. Every every episode. Uh, you
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- 2:15:33or form. Uh, whether it's impact, aw, WWE, New Japan.
- 2:15:39I mean, somebody in our group is watching and there you know you
- 2:15:45want to you want to talk about it. There's plenty of places on the
- 2:15:48discord and you know, get more guests on here. So if you're you're
- 2:15:54thinking about it, you might want to be a guest. And yeah,
- 2:15:58you're kind of on the on the fence about it. I mean, do
- 2:16:01it. It's not It's not bad, right, Carlos. No, it's
- 2:16:05a great place to be. Kids beyond our discord, come and share all
- 2:16:11your wrestling thoughts. Hear me go off on a weird tangent about how Matt
- 2:16:16Riddle needs to get more work, or how how Roman reigns are still and
- 2:16:26whatever else I've been wrong about this year. Come out and call me out.
- 2:16:31I'm willing to walk on a limb and make crazy predictions to make you
- 2:16:35mad and to bring in the clicks. All right, Uh, you know
- 2:16:41what, before we go, Carlos, do you have anything more to plug?
- 2:16:46Yes, leading into bringing in the clicks. I need you all to
- 2:16:52come out or log on and I am going to start my own spinoff.
- 2:17:03I guess you can call it podcast slash live stream. Like maybe two or
- 2:17:09three months ago, my wife I took her to a live event. We
- 2:17:13want to go see some indie promotion called Warrior Wrestling, and she had never
- 2:17:20been to like a small indie one, and it kind of like, I
- 2:17:26guess, gave her a little spark, and she's like, why don't we
- 2:17:30come out to these things more often? And I go, well, I've
- 2:17:33watched WrestleMania, and I watch all these other things around here, and then
- 2:17:35you always end up bailing like halfway through or like into the first ten fifteen
- 2:17:41minute matches. And then that just one conversation led to another, and then
- 2:17:46I'm like, have you even watched the first WrestleMania And she's like no,
- 2:17:52So her and I have decided to take a revisit, which we're calling it
- 2:17:58revisiting May. So we're going to revisit and rewatch all the WrestleMania's leaning up
- 2:18:07to us actually attending WrestleMania forty this year to me all you pop wrestling fans,
- 2:18:18podcast, Championship Wrestling fans, people in the discord, whoever's out there
- 2:18:22when we go out for WrestleMania forty. So we're hoping to live stream and
- 2:18:28post a podcast. We're shooting for once a week and maybe like an hour
- 2:18:33or maybe a little bit over, just because I don't want to bore her
- 2:18:39or get her to feel too strenuous about having the actually breakdown a meltzer rating,
- 2:18:48which we're not going to actually try to do, but yeah, come
- 2:18:52on out. We're hoping to launch the weekend of July fourteenth, fifteen,
- 2:18:58And if you want to go ahead and be a guest on our video podcast,
- 2:19:05feel free to reach out to me and Twitter as Tolks. That's t
- 2:19:09Okz Underscore twenty one, also in the discord in the same handle, And
- 2:19:16if you want to reach out to us on our new or reach out to
- 2:19:22me on our new on the new podcast, it will be revisiting Mania on
- 2:19:30Twitter. You got to watch WrestleMania one yet, No, it will be
- 2:19:37done this weekend, sir. Fortunately Todd kind of holds it back, but
- 2:19:43we will be watching it a couple of times. I already set up a
- 2:19:48friend of mine to come up on to review or to rewatch before WrestleMania one.
- 2:19:56Actually got it up to WrestleMania three. So if you guys have a
- 2:20:00particular WrestleMania that you'd like to revisit along with us, feel free to reach
- 2:20:05out. Absolutely, I'm definitely gonna be on that list because I would love
- 2:20:11beyond Uh Doyle, you got anything you want to plug? Oh? Now
- 2:20:20you know, I'm just around the discord of the PCW and the PCL discord
- 2:20:26and Facebook page. Well, I do want to say the last couple episodes,
- 2:20:31I've told my buddy Nick to get well, and I would like to
- 2:20:35say that I don't even do that anymore because he is out of the hospital.
- 2:20:39He's not quite out of the woods, but he's out of the hospital.
- 2:20:43Awesome, it was great news. Good job Nick, and kicked out,
- 2:20:48kicked out. I love it, kicked out at two point nine,
- 2:20:52but he kicked out. Uh, Drey, you got anything to plug?
- 2:21:00Uh? Nothing to plug this time around? Just as always, you guys
- 2:21:03can find me in the PCW discord Outlaw Star. I'm pretty much there every
- 2:21:09episode of Raw and SmackDown sharing my live thoughts as the shows take place,
- 2:21:13so feel free to hop on in joining the conversation. Cool. Uh.
- 2:21:18The only thing I got to plug is it's a little it's a little outdated
- 2:21:22now by like a week or a few weeks. But I was on Anatomy
- 2:21:28dissecting this fiction podcast. We were talking about the Transformers, Rise to the
- 2:21:33Beast, and then I was also on Scenic Cast and we talked about Transformers,
- 2:21:39Rise of the Beasts, Indiana Jones, the Temple of Doom, and
- 2:21:43the movie Clock. So if you're interested in any of those, give it
- 2:21:48a listen. Uh, Indiana Jones, Oh yeah, yeah, that in
- 2:21:54the theater too, weird little I was like five, we're a little nugget
- 2:22:01about the Indiana Jones and the Timple of the Doom that I happened to learn
- 2:22:03today that that movie helped lead us What helped that movie led to us getting
- 2:22:11the PG thirteen rating? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I remember
- 2:22:18hearing about that. Yep, that movie and Gremlins. I thought you were
- 2:22:22going to say that's where Steven Spielberg met his second wife. No, Steven
- 2:22:26Spielberg. Steven Spielberg did was the person who originally suggested the PG thirteen rating,
- 2:22:31although he thought for some reason like eleven was the age, but eventually
- 2:22:37it came out to be PG thirteen and announced and uh back in nineteen eighty
- 2:22:41four, Yeah, I think, I think I yeah, I think I
- 2:22:45was like five. We went to see that as a family whatever, and
- 2:22:48there's hearts getting ripped down and fum. Yeah. Prior to that, the
- 2:22:56PG thirteen rating did not exist, and it was just G, GP,
- 2:23:01R and X. It makes me want to think what Jaws was then.
- 2:23:05I thought that would have been AGA was just PGMO Yeah thing that, yeah,
- 2:23:13because that was the part of the problem that existed, was there was
- 2:23:16nothing between PG and R and and some things were you know, kind of
- 2:23:22okay or acceptable whatever. But as the filmmakers started to kind of push the
- 2:23:28envelope a little bit more, you know, parents started to take issue with
- 2:23:31some of the stuff that was starting to be included and how far they were
- 2:23:35pushing the envelope. So they kind of needed something in between. And that's
- 2:23:39and like I said, the catalyst was Temple of Doom with the heart being
- 2:23:43ripped out and the guys falling in the river at the end of getting ripped
- 2:23:48up by you know, alligators and crocodiles or whatever, and then gremlins and
- 2:23:52all the shit that happened in that and so as that's kind of when everything
- 2:23:56kind of just came to a head. And then Steven Spielberg made this suggestion
- 2:24:00to the guy who was the president I believe, of the MPAA at the
- 2:24:03time, to come up with another in between rating. Like I said,
- 2:24:07he thought, you know, eleven was the age or some of the around
- 2:24:11teenagers. So then they came up with PG thirteen. Right, I'll play
- 2:24:16this for you, the non wrestling addition, and this has been an MPAA
- 2:24:26cast. Yeah, all right, low, I want to play a stat
- 2:24:30with this. His name is job. I want it's true, it's it
- 2:25:07doesn't matter what your name. M oh yeah, let's screw you guys.
- 2:25:28I'm going home. Bye, have a great time.