Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #173 Special Report - The Power of Student Prayer at Baylor U
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- 0:02So, there is this movement towards prayer that is completely unseen and undocumented
- 0:07that there's your students that are just meeting with God.
- 0:12Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:18The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
- 0:28Welcome to the One Cry Podcast. I'm Ben Dishner.
- 0:32I'm actually the producer of the podcast and usually get to edit and plan for what's coming up.
- 0:39But this time, I get to have a very special interview with two students from
- 0:45our only collegiate chapter in the country, and that is One Cry Baylor.
- 0:50And God has done some amazing things on the campus of Baylor University.
- 0:55I was able to be there a couple of years ago and see God moving in a wonderful
- 1:00way. And he has just continued to do that.
- 1:03And there's an unprecedented unity on that campus that has been growing in part
- 1:09to this One Cry ministry that has just loved on and prayed with people from all over the campus.
- 1:16And so today we have Zach Shields and Meredith Iverson who are both part of
- 1:23the One Cry Baylor campus movement. And so welcome guys.
- 1:29Thank you so much for having us. Thank you. It's good to have you.
- 1:32And I believe Zach is this year's president of One Cry Baylor.
- 1:37And Meredith is also in the leadership of this group, but they're not worried
- 1:42about titles. They're not worried about badges.
- 1:45They just want to see God move.
- 1:47So, hey, could you tell me a little bit about how you guys were drawn to One
- 1:52Cry and how God birthed in your heart a desire to pray for your campus?
- 1:59Can you tell me a little bit about that? Let's start with Meredith. How about that?
- 2:03Yeah, I actually started going to One Cry around February of last year and really
- 2:10was just catching on to the coattails of prayer and what the Lord was doing
- 2:14throughout the whole semester.
- 2:16And we were actually bringing in all the local college ministers to pray for them.
- 2:21And James Bull had texted me and asked, hey, Meredith, we're bringing a college pastor in.
- 2:25We'd love for you to come and pray over him and with us. And I went and I never left.
- 2:31So it's been awesome to see just how God has taken the humble people of prayer
- 2:35and done something great. So that's how I got involved in prayer.
- 2:39Yeah. And for me, it was, there was, James Fuller invited me to get a free meal with him.
- 2:45And I said, sure, let's do it. And so I went and got some barbecue with James
- 2:50and just heard this vision of prayer that he had.
- 2:54I mean, that some of the older students had for Baylor.
- 2:57And so I said, you know what, I'll go for a few weeks.
- 3:00And in those few weeks, I was at one of our campus chapel services and the Lord
- 3:05met me and burned my heart with prayer.
- 3:07And it was a, it was one of those moments that you'll never forget.
- 3:10And my heart was just caught and captivated and realized my desperate need for
- 3:15God, especially in that I needed to be praying more.
- 3:18And so then got drawn into joining every single week for an hour of prayer and
- 3:24then moved into a more leadership role and have now helped facilitate our prayer
- 3:28time and praying over different college pastors and ministries across town.
- 3:32And it has been unbelievable.
- 3:35So what are some ways that God has used you guys?
- 3:39And I know you're, aren't you underclassmen or you both? What year are you at Baylor?
- 3:45We're both seniors. We're both graduating.
- 3:48Upperclassmen. Okay. Yeah, we're done.
- 3:51We're passing the torch right now in a lot of different seasons of
- 3:54life and um so yeah yeah that's awesome praise god i'm excited about how god's
- 4:01drawn you in and how he's been using you can you tell me maybe some things you've
- 4:06seen in the community as a result of concerted prayer uh that you guys have been a part of.
- 4:14Yeah. So at the same time that we both got involved with one cry,
- 4:19this, this thing called Camp Love got birthed at Baylor and it started out at
- 4:23Grand Canyon university in Phoenix.
- 4:25And then it, a few semesters later, it got planted at Point Loma Nazarene in
- 4:29San Diego, which is my hometown.
- 4:31And so I heard about it, didn't think anything of it. And then Baylor was the
- 4:34third campus to be planted at.
- 4:36And it's not Baylor affiliated, but it is a, it's a vehicle for students to go camping.
- 4:43And our goal is to see lives transformed by the gospel through camping,
- 4:46creating connections among students and among people in the community,
- 4:51deepening the sense of community, and then ultimately leading people to Jesus.
- 4:54And so we had this vision a year ago of let's see what happens.
- 4:58And this was in adjacent to One Cry.
- 5:03One Cry was praying for Camp Love, and Camp Love was we realized that the other
- 5:07campuses were activating students,
- 5:10and we realized that there was this specific call for Baylor's Camp Love to
- 5:14be so rooted in prayer that it was undeniable to the person who doesn't even
- 5:18know prayer is happening.
- 5:19And so we invited people from the community into that. The last year was marked
- 5:23by this crazy prayer movement that we'll talk more about in Waco.
- 5:27But we got to see the students in our community just find this heart of prayer.
- 5:33And in February, February 9th was when we had our second Camp Love at Baylor,
- 5:38our spring. And for 24 hours straight, actually more than that,
- 5:42it was all focused on training students in prayer. And that kicked off the rest
- 5:46of the semester where we got to see God move.
- 5:50That's exciting. So about how many students do you think you'll see at Camp Love?
- 5:58We um have it's not ambitious
- 6:01it's just trusting the lord we're praying for 500 students
- 6:05camp love this year we have
- 6:07about 100 people um students on the leadership team
- 6:10we have the director team leadership team that
- 6:13each of those teams build out people they
- 6:17invite their friends they invite someone hey i think you'd be good at this i see
- 6:19this gifting in you and you think if 100 people
- 6:23each invite four people you have 500 people
- 6:26at camp so it's really the spirit of invitation that's bringing people
- 6:29in so that's awesome so is it
- 6:31close to uh baylor where you're going
- 6:34to have the camp or is it further out it
- 6:38will be an hour 45 away so it's it's it's enough
- 6:41away where students have to commit to go um to
- 6:43find a car and carpool we have a
- 6:46tent pool that we call it where people all share tents and it
- 6:50is our goal is to have as low barrier
- 6:53of entry as possible so anybody can go and because it's
- 6:56a camping trip that isn't affiliated or put on with a church
- 6:59a specific church it at it brings
- 7:02in the unbeliever and believer alike and one moment that i'll never forget from
- 7:08our first camp in the fall is i brought a friend who's an unbeliever still doesn't
- 7:12believe in god and my conversation with him sitting on a bench was like how
- 7:16are you receiving this what's holding you back from receiving jesus and he said
- 7:19i have a lot of doubt and skepticism.
- 7:22But the one thing that I've noticed is I've never seen Christians so humble and moly.
- 7:27And that rocked my world. And I've never heard it, but it was simply just a
- 7:33call and a burden of prayer that was met with students activated in their gifts
- 7:38to reach people through the gospel.
- 7:42Yeah, that's exciting. Praise God for that. So what are some things that God
- 7:46has called you guys to do you think in the next chapter you said you're seniors
- 7:51and so how are you going to carry this burden that God's put on your heart forward after you graduate,
- 7:59I'll kick us off. So I applied to medical schools and I am right now waiting
- 8:04to hear back of where the Lord's going to place me for the next four years.
- 8:09Yeah. Awesome.
- 8:12My journey at Baylor has been a little different. Zach and I both actually met
- 8:16because we both came in living in the pre-med dorm.
- 8:21And really, my whole journey through college has been the Lord asking me to
- 8:25surrender what I had planned out for my life and to take up what He has given me instead.
- 8:30Even with one cry in Camp Love, being like, man, I almost said no to both of these things.
- 8:35And God truly and humbly just told me, like, Meredith, you have to say yes to where I'm moving.
- 8:40And so it's taking trust. It's taking faith and action. You can't just trust
- 8:44God and be like, oh, you're going to do it and not move forward with him.
- 8:47And so I still don't know exactly what I'm doing after I graduate,
- 8:51but really have the mindset of taking the next faithful step forward,
- 8:55whether that's missions, whether that's teaching,
- 8:58church, ministry, or just corporate
- 9:01business has an opportunity to advance the gospel wherever we go.
- 9:06That's awesome. Yeah, I love how you both are just saying, okay,
- 9:09God, whatever you have in store, I'm trusting you. So he's going to use what
- 9:14he's planted in you no matter what you do. So that's exciting.
- 9:18I would like to encourage you to just from me looking from the outside in,
- 9:24realizing that you guys are trailblazers.
- 9:27And this is one cry campus ministry.
- 9:31It's not the same as other campus ministries
- 9:34because they kind of focus on getting a group together
- 9:37uh to kind of have fellowship and
- 9:41and you know various parts to disciple whereas one christ seems like on campus
- 9:47not seems like but it's a ministry that tries to unite all of those together
- 9:51and to have a common goal of seeing god move within a generation and so god has used you
- 10:00guys as trailblazers and I commend you for that. Thank you for that.
- 10:05Tell me a little bit about,
- 10:08Some of the things you've seen God do in this last year.
- 10:12I know that the Collegiate Day of Prayer was at Baylor's campus this last year,
- 10:19and the broadcast was amazing.
- 10:22But tell me some stories or some testimonies you've heard in conjunction with that.
- 10:28Yeah, that has been incredible just to both sit back and watch and also to be a part of.
- 10:35Um collegiate of prayer fm 72 all
- 10:38those things they didn't start just in february or
- 10:41march they started back um actually the summer before um august september people
- 10:46started to gather and be like lord what would you have for us in the fall um
- 10:50one of my favorite moments had been um leading up to collegiate of prayer we
- 10:55had this building gifted to the spiritual life department it's,
- 11:01building that um people like hey we're gonna
- 11:03renovate it but if you want to come and sit in here you can
- 11:07paint the walls do whatever so it was called empire seed and uh
- 11:11for eight weeks people got to come in in prayer and then two weeks leading up
- 11:16to campus 24 hour prayer cycling and there was every um type of person got to
- 11:22come into that space and there was uh different languages and different churches
- 11:27and young and old and children.
- 11:29And that was like a lead up to prayer that.
- 11:33I don't think anything that happened in Collegiate of Prayer or Camp Love or
- 11:36FM72 would have happened without prayer being the first thing that people were committed to.
- 11:41I always love the saying that, like, man, if we believe that God's love is the
- 11:45greatest form of love, the best and most loving thing that we can do first is to pray for people.
- 11:50And when we pray and ask the Lord, like, would you do this? Like,
- 11:53the greatest love of all time gets to be the one to act and we get to come alongside him.
- 11:58Um so just getting to see all these
- 12:01people come together to see the result it's not about numbers it's
- 12:04not about results and it's about getting to see people activating
- 12:07their faith and even like when the disciples asked like jesus would
- 12:10you teach us how to pray he prayed with them and so
- 12:13many people from baylor and
- 12:16even the greater community of waco have gotten to learn more
- 12:20what it means to pray and to intercede with the lord
- 12:23yeah yeah and and to that
- 12:25point the the marking of prayer really set the foundation
- 12:29um back from asbury if
- 12:32it was last i think it was last february it was already two years ago february
- 12:36of a few of the past recent history um asbury
- 12:39and there was this mark of consecration and that
- 12:42was the focus of we're going to be rooted in prayer and we're
- 12:45going to there was a consecration room where anybody that was going to go on
- 12:48stage had to meet with god first and
- 12:51just vacate their hearts everything that was self-seeking and so
- 12:54we took that upon ourselves and at our camp love we implemented
- 12:57this consecration room and it changed the tide completely and then moving into
- 13:03fm 72 there was in years past nothing wrong with it but there was a green room
- 13:10and so before you go out on stage you all the band and all the speakers and
- 13:13all the people that are involved go into this green room and.
- 13:18I just felt this conviction of what is a green room without a consecration room,
- 13:22without a, of getting right before God, before going out.
- 13:26And instead of having just this meal with your friends. And so we transformed
- 13:30the green room into a consecration room.
- 13:32And there was prayer and communion and all the different churches from around
- 13:37town met in the same room before the big event that nobody knew about this,
- 13:41the secret room up in the top floor of the student union building.
- 13:45And there was just an unbelievable foundation
- 13:49set that at fm 72 we saw
- 13:52hundreds of students confess unrepentant sin
- 13:55that they've never shared with anybody before there's people
- 13:58that gave their life to jesus at fm 72 a a presentation of of the gospel from
- 14:04an ex muslim yeah and he and he helped start our campus ministry and he just
- 14:11shared his story and there was people that found jesus in that moment.
- 14:15So it was unbelievable. And we get to the collegiate day of prayer and it's
- 14:19the whole event is rooted in prayer.
- 14:23And there was still a few students that were all, uh, that were going to speak at that.
- 14:27And we, we decided we don't want there to be any ounce of spiritual performance or pride or anything.
- 14:35And so we found a back closet in the back of the room.
- 14:38And for 30, 40 minutes before the event started there was seven eight students that just got before god,
- 14:46and you and going out and speaking
- 14:49on during the collegiate day of prayer there was it was one of the few moments
- 14:53where it's just god took over and there was a i had my things prepared i had
- 14:59everything i was saying prepped and the lord just spoke and it was powerful
- 15:03and so it all started with prayer and it ended with prayer.
- 15:08And we got to see the fruit of people drawing and close to Jesus in those moments.
- 15:12Amen. Amen. That's so wonderful. And we love to share the stories of what God
- 15:19has done and how he stirred hearts, because one of the things our founder says
- 15:23often is the fame of revival spreads the flame of revival.
- 15:28Another thing, Meredith, that I was thinking about while you were talking
- 15:31is both of you actually that that
- 15:34before god desires to do a lot
- 15:37whenever he desires to do a great work he first sets
- 15:40his people to pray and those those
- 15:44things are kind of guiding statements within this
- 15:47ministry so what would you both what
- 15:50would you say number one what would you say
- 15:53to your peers maybe who
- 15:56don't have haven't experienced
- 16:00a prayer life or an environment like that what would you say to them and then
- 16:05what would you say to leaders pastors and next-gen leaders what would you say
- 16:13to them about the importance of prayer and that experience.
- 16:19Yeah, I think there's kind of two realms, like our peers, our college students,
- 16:23and some of the college students that, especially at Baylor,
- 16:26like some people come in with this great faith in the Lord and this great practice of prayer.
- 16:31And to them, it's like, invite people into that, invite people to pray.
- 16:35We're called to like raise up leaders and don't just look for the people ahead of you.
- 16:39Also look for the people that are a step behind you and bring them up with you to be trained up.
- 16:45And then for leaders in
- 16:48prayer like the same message of like man I hope and
- 16:51pray that the pastors of all the churches in Waco invite other
- 16:54people to pray with them leadership itself can be lonely and isolating and that's
- 16:59the way that the enemy would so love to get his foothold um is to isolate people
- 17:05and when we bring prayer in and bring other people in that gets to be a vessel
- 17:09um I think there's the simple thing of like man faithful little faithful and much um.
- 17:15We want to see revival we want to see this little revival
- 17:18that brings huge numbers and
- 17:21people to faith and if we can't start
- 17:24that with prayer um if we can't pray for the little
- 17:26things even in our own hearts in our own lives how can we
- 17:29trust and expect and ask god to do big wonderful
- 17:33things in so many hundreds and thousands of
- 17:36people's lives so i think
- 17:39truly i've just learned i think in the last year it's like it's worth it
- 17:42to bring people in and i think god created us to bring
- 17:44people in to every single thing that we do so yeah
- 17:49and and with with peers that one thing i've
- 17:51learned is you can't push a rope but you can pull it and so it's hard to push
- 17:55someone into prayer but if you give them your yes and it's hey do as i do follow
- 18:01me come to one cry whatever it is like let's let's do this together and i learned
- 18:07how to pray because somebody taught me how to pray.
- 18:10And it wasn't them saying, Hey, you need to learn how. And so that's,
- 18:13that's what I would communicate with my peers.
- 18:16And I think one card is a great job at that. And then with pastors and,
- 18:20and sort of the older generation, the one, and this was,
- 18:24I think, marking of the revival round table that, that was after the collegiate
- 18:29prayer was our generation just longs for to be seen, heard, and empowered.
- 18:37And there's this sniffing out that they've done of just performance and things that are not genuine.
- 18:45And our generation is longs for what's real and true.
- 18:48So there is this movement towards prayer that is completely unseen and undocumented
- 18:53that there's just students that are just meeting with God.
- 18:57And they want opportunity to they'll lead their peers in prayer and other moments.
- 19:04I think there's this natural divide that's happened and the young feels pushed
- 19:10away as the old also feels pushed away.
- 19:12And if there is this reconciliation, it is a game over for America.
- 19:20I don't know if that's a game over.
- 19:26No, that's awesome. I love that. Praise God. You know, I think looking forward,
- 19:34one of the things we can learn is that unity aspect of bridging the gaps.
- 19:41And just as you guys at the beginning, before we even got started,
- 19:45you weren't worried about titles or anything like that.
- 19:48If we put all that aside and focus on Christ, that's what he desires.
- 19:53So, you know, One Cry is about three primary things we mentioned are turn,
- 19:58pray, and unite, repentance, prayer, and unity.
- 20:01And probably the strongest God has moved in my life in all three of those things,
- 20:06but probably the biggest calling I have right now is to unite the body of Christ.
- 20:11And so I'm so excited to do that. And I'm so excited to hear about you guys doing that as well.
- 20:17That was some great stuff. if you need to write down what you just said and
- 20:23we give it to other folks, but you also mentioned the revival round table, which is a,
- 20:29it's a smaller gathering and it's kind of intended to be that way.
- 20:33So we can actually get around some tables and discuss some issues and bounce
- 20:38those things off of one another.
- 20:40And it's also a great opportunity to bring the generations together.
- 20:44So we're looking forward to the next one also, which we'll be having in conjunction
- 20:49with the next Collegiate Day of Prayer, which is now slated to be at Texas A&M University. So.
- 20:57Yeah, we're excited about that. So we'll be back, not quite in your neck of
- 21:01the woods, but we'll be close. So excited about that.
- 21:04So as we close out this interview, I would love to ask you both to pray.
- 21:12But before then, I would like to hear maybe how someone could find out about Camp Love.
- 21:23If they were interested in doing something like that, who would be someone that
- 21:27they would get in touch with to find out about it?
- 21:29Or is it just a grassroots type thing?
- 21:34Both. Both and. Yes. So it is the easiest way to contact Camp Love is probably
- 21:40through social media on Instagram is to direct message the account.
- 21:45And what's cool about Camp Love is it's grown at the pace of relationships.
- 21:48And so all these new plants at new schools, a year ago is only at three universities.
- 21:54It is now at 18 universities. And the flagship campus, Grand Canyon,
- 22:00they had 1,500 college students in the woods camping for 24 hours.
- 22:04Unbelievable. And that is the grassroots component is it is highly relational.
- 22:10And there's a high trust when starting one, but there's also a high challenge
- 22:14and a high support. So if you want, if you're interested in starting a Camp
- 22:17Love, I would get in contact with Camp Love Corporate, which is based out in Phoenix.
- 22:22And so I would message the Instagram or if you need my contact information,
- 22:25I can make that touch point.
- 22:27And then otherwise, if you want to go to a Camp Love that's at one of the 18
- 22:32different universities, there's a list online of all the different schools that they're at.
- 22:37And that's Camp with a K to not cause confusion.
- 22:41So it's been. Yeah, with a K. I tell you what, why don't we just tell folks,
- 22:45if you will email us at info at onecry.com and let us know you're interested
- 22:51in that, we will get that information to you and connect you.
- 22:55And we'd love to see God continue moving in that way across our country.
- 23:00So why don't we close out with a time of prayer? And I'm just going to invite both of you to lead us.
- 23:09And why don't we start with you, Meredith, and just would you pray for this next generation?
- 23:16And when I say next generation, sometimes we focus on who's in college right
- 23:20now, but the generations to come, that God would really stir in their hearts.
- 23:25And then I'm going to ask you, Zach, if you will pray for the older generations
- 23:31to have a heart for God to move in the younger generations.
- 23:36And so let's just spend a time in prayer and then I'll close this out.
- 23:42Dear Lord God, you are our Father. Lord, would we look to you and know that
- 23:46you are good and you are holy.
- 23:49Lord, I thank you for this time together with Zach and Ben to just talk about
- 23:54prayer and to talk about, God, what you are doing, what our eyes ultimately be focused on you.
- 24:00Lord, I pray for this next generation, whether it's college students or the younger generation.
- 24:05Lord, I pray for protection, God, protection from sin, protection for our minds,
- 24:10Lord. Would you guard our hearts and minds in you?
- 24:12And Lord, I pray that the next generation be raised up in your giftings, God.
- 24:16I pray that people would have challenge and support from the people who go before
- 24:21them, Lord, and that they would know that you have created us with a purpose,
- 24:25Lord, that we are creating your image to bear your name, to glorify your name in all that we do.
- 24:31Lord, I pray ultimately, God, that we would hunger and thirst for righteousness
- 24:35sake, Lord, that that would be what we desire more than anything that this world can offer us.
- 24:40So, Lord, would that be the mark in the ground that this establishes your people,
- 24:45Lord, that we want what's real and what real is you, God.
- 24:48So, Lord, we love you. We pray that you would continue to do a work,
- 24:51Lord, that we would get to lock arms with you and partner with you in what you're doing.
- 24:55And would you do that through One Cry and Camp Love and campus ministries and
- 24:59churches all across the country and the world, Lord.
- 25:03Would all nations proclaim your name, God. Mm-hmm.
- 25:06Yeah. Yes, Lord. And the wisdom of your word says the glory of young men is
- 25:12their strength, but the splendor of old men is their gray hair.
- 25:15Yes, God, we just ask that there would just be a new work that is done in the
- 25:21older generation, Lord.
- 25:22Lord, that time's not finished, time's not ready to slow down,
- 25:26Lord, but we are expecting for what you're doing and what you're going to do.
- 25:31And so, God, would you just unify the old and the young?
- 25:35Lord, we see such a unified church that church denominations and divides and
- 25:39sections would all just fall away behind the scenes.
- 25:42And we would all just be radical Jesus followers, people who want to see your kingdom on this earth.
- 25:47And so, God, would you just strip away all pride, all sense of from God,
- 25:52for me and from our generation of we can do it on our own.
- 25:56We don't need help, Lord, but we are built to be a body. And so would you make
- 26:01us look more like one, one that is strong, one that is faithful, one that is teachable?
- 26:07Lord, would you make us ready for your kingdom to come, to come back?
- 26:10Jesus, we're expecting a return, and we hope that it's soon.
- 26:14So yeah, God, would you just continue to vacate our hearts of things that are
- 26:17not from you and fill it afresh and with your spirit?
- 26:20And so, God, we ask all these things in your name.
- 26:24Amen. Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. And we do, Lord.
- 26:28We ask that you would continue to stir in this next generation.
- 26:33And, Father, I thank you for things like Camp Love.
- 26:36I thank you for how you have stirred so many hearts on the Baylor campus and also in Waco.
- 26:43And, Lord, for how you're moving on campuses across this country.
- 26:49Lord, I pray that we would embrace that.
- 26:52I pray that we would see the older generation that I'm a part of,
- 26:57Lord, to be excited about your activity and to seek how we can join you in that.
- 27:03So Lord, would you continue to blow on that, to fan it into flames?
- 27:09What if we're looking at the beginnings that spark a great awakening?
- 27:15Lord, may that be. Would you continue to bless Meredith and Zach?
- 27:20Would you continue to bless OneCraft Baylor? Would you open doors and open hearts
- 27:26as they want to share Christ and as they are lifting up so many?
- 27:30God, would you unite your people and would you use us?
- 27:34And Lord, we just pour our hearts out to you, asking you to send a great awakening.
- 27:40Lord, we do pray for revival, widespread revival.
- 27:44We pray for revival to spring up in individual hearts.
- 27:47And we pray for a great spiritual awakening, Lord, that people who don't know
- 27:52you will realize their need for you and they will hear the gospel and respond.
- 27:58And so, Lord, we do. We pray that you would go before and prepare them for that.
- 28:03Raise up your people. Send them out into a harvest field that is right.
- 28:07Lord, we love you. We thank you. You are so good. We praise you in the name of Jesus. Amen.
- 28:15Well, Meredith, Zach, it is so awesome to put a face with a name and to see you guys.
- 28:22And hopefully I will see you in a few months when I'm down there.
- 28:26Music.