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"Next of Kinzinger" (Tuesday August 26, 2025, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: Is that what we want to live in where you
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just occupy every city because of so called prime First.
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Speaker 2: Thing today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas,
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the second most famous Thomas and Charlotte.
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Speaker 3: Smith, George said, steal me stem.
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Speaker 4: You have a day at least for work when the
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sun comes up, drops a kid to school.
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Speaker 5: They think Joe has everything.
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Speaker 4: A Jane do all the treasure said, needs no one
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that Joe sais smiled.
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Speaker 6: He only as.
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Speaker 3: Let me be Joe, thank you for letting me be
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of service to you this morning. You're doing so called radio.
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I love these folks, you know. I don't know if
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it like moths to lights or not. It certainly manifests
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like moths flying to the lights and you look at
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them and you say, okay, well that's just a light bulb.
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And I can say, but that one's a zapper and
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it's going to get you hit it anyway because you
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can't help yourself. You can't help yourself. You're a moth
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and you see a light and you go there and
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frickasy and Adam Kinsinger bless his little heart, as we
1:36
say in the South. You know this New Yorker who
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learns things like blessed. Bless your heart is an expression,
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by the way, if you're ever in the American South,
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bless your heart means I'm about to say something really
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mean about you, perhaps even passive aggressive. Bless his little heart.
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I know he means well, and I meanwell means well.
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I'm for his own political future. I know he's he's
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just trying to make himself relevant. And it's been a while,
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so you know, somebody got who was it was Tapper,
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wasn't it Jake Tapper? And Jake Tapper is funny? Do
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we have the whole clip? Jake Tapper is so punchy
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right now. He has been hit so many times. I'll
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play the whole clip for you at a later moment,
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but I mean, it's just you can see him flinching
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and pulling punches and doubling back and re explainifying things
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over and over and over again through the whole piece
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with Adam Kinsinger. He's so afraid of screwing up again.
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And to me, it's somebody who's been yelled at one
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too many times Boss's office and doesn't feel like he's
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got the gravitas anymore to fend it off. And I
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feel for the guy. I mean, I've been that guy.
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You get to get the kicked dog syndrome, and you know,
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you start feeling like, oh, I don't want to mess
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up this time. I don't want to mess up this time,
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and you pull your punches and then all of a sudden,
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you know it doesn't make a difference anymore, and you're
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you might as well just do the things you fly
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the plane you came into the game with. I mean,
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if you're Jake Tapper, be Jake Tapper, make up stories,
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do things, you know, ignore the truth and all that stuff.
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That's fine, that's your act. Anyway, It's a first thing
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this morning, and we've got to start with our first things. Otherwise,
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how are we going to discuss killmar Abrego. Garcia's lawyers
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continued detaining him within two hundred miles of Greenbelt. The
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concern is ICE will attempt to move him during the night.
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More than half of all registered voters surveyed by Harvard
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more than half of all registered voters, including twenty eight
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d C. To tackle crime were justified and necessary. Meanwhile,
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of being the Democratic Party's twenty twenty eight presidential nominee,
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called the President a want to be dictator and an
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moved to relieve Lisa Cook from her position as governor
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the development of a sovereign wealth fund. South Korean President
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Lee May Lee J Moung, was in Washington yesterday proposed
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Speaker 12: Bruh, that's buzzed.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, he's starting with the woots.
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Speaker 12: And now a speech.
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Speaker 13: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
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art and brain who's with me.
11:13
Speaker 12: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed, and my
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brain is saying when it's time to go home. Somebody
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call me a ride.
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Speaker 14: Love that guy, me too.
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Speaker 6: Know your buzzed warning signs, call for a ride when
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it's time to go home.
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Speaker 3: Buzz driving is drunk driving.
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costs go to heating and cooling. Energy efficiency isn't just
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good for the environment, It means lower utility bills too.
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energy assessment. Your utility company can help, or you can
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learn how to do it yourself at energysavers dot gov.
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That's energysavers dot gov. You'll learn to look for air
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leaks around windows and doors, check ducks for holes, and
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improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs when
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you shop for a new appliance, look for the energy
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Star logo and read the energy guide label. And there
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are day to day things you can do.
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more tips on saving money by reducing your energy waste
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So while Lennon reads that book on marks, let's let's
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take apart what's happening in the park and do.
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Speaker 3: We have the clip previous clip of the program? This
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program archived footage of something I told you well numerous times,
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but I think most recently, maybe six months ago, maybe
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maybe a little bit less than that. You have to
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remember the most important thing about Marxism is that it's
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a rich person's protection program, and it is key if
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you're being wooed by the idea of the rights to
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a job, and the rights to an income, and the
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rights to a place to live and all. You know what,
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I don't need free speech. I don't need the ability
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to associate with who I want to.
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Speaker 7: Why would I want that?
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's so much easier just to associate with
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the people the government tells me to. I mean, why
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would I want to make that decision?
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Speaker 7: Have you? Have you met my friends?
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Speaker 3: And I bring this up because Zohan mad Money, the
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what do they call them? Silk silk the silk perse socialist,
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I think is the phrase they use for a Zohan
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Ma Money, Sarah Arnold reporting town Hall, Zorhan Mam Donnie.
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Just for those who are like you. Should he invented
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in Angio. You shouldn't make up nicknames. Zohan mad Money
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hauled in one point oh to four million dollars in
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a month. You think about you know, the socialist has
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raked in a million dollars in a month.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 3: My classmate at Bayside High School, go Commodorees, Eric Adams,
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raked in four hundred and twenty five thousand dollars, which
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is a good bit more than you or I made
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in that same month. But he even behind Andrew Cuomo,
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who raked in half a million dollars, and Curtis Leewa
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collected four hundred thousand dollars in the past month. But
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Mamdani has four point three million dollars in the bank
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to spend on money talking about, you know, government grocery stores, which,
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by the way, he won't spend any of his millions
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of dollars that have been contributed to him on the
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grocery stores. He'll keep it and then make the taxpayers
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buy grocery stores and stock the grocery stores and employees. Sure,
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the millionaires that are feeding Mamdani's campaign are the same
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ilk that funded Lenin, that funded Castro, that funded you
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picked the Marxist dictator out there, current ones. I mean
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some of the radicals sixties they were, you know, but
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even even Castro came to power with the money of
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the rich Cubans, who are still the rich Cubans. Their
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families are still the rich Cubans. They still live in
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the big houses, some of them. You know, they kicked
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out the mobsters. The wealthy Russians just became the party
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leaders and gross, you know, they need a big house
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because they're the party leader. The rich guys in Russia
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come the early part of the century, backed Glad the
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Invader because he was going to protect their wealth. I
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don't know how old you are, I wouldn't guess. It's
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not polite. But go back to the day you were
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born and pull up the risk list of the wealthiest Americans,
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and then look at today's list of wealthiest Americans. Just
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do top ten. You can do top twenty five. Whatever
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you will find, with the exception of like the three
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Walton kids that are still in the top ten. If
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you're like twenty five years old, you know Sam Walton
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was on the list twenty five years ago. Now three
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of his kids are on the list, much lower on
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the list than Sam Walton. It's Walmart, by the way.
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But save for the Walton family, for the most part,
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every name on that list is changed. Even with the
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sclerotic hand in glove, great society, soft core Marxism that
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this country has been doing since nineteen sixty four, we
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still churn through rich people pretty quickly. Rich people become
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poor people, poor people become rich people. Jeff Bezos was
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and I went back and I found an article from
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the very early days of Amazon where the business insiders
19:19
were questioning the logic of selling books online, and if
19:23
it weren't for the support of the book publishers, this
19:27
idea of selling books online, you know, wouldn't work, and
19:34
that it was a coalition of the damned, and it
19:37
was going to ruin the bookstores and then the internet
19:40
would go away and it was just a fad. And
19:46
and now Jeff's bezos is there at the top of
19:49
that list of wealthiest Americans. And maybe in twenty five
19:52
years he's completely gone. Maybe his kid, does he have kids,
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Maybe his ex wife will still be on the list,
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but somebody will have taken his wealth and turned it
20:04
into something else. Also, there are, you know, as with
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the case of the Waltons, as is the case with
20:13
any of the Fords, people who have become wealthy. But
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these guys, these Marxists, like Zorhan Mamdani, they go to
20:23
the currently wealthy people and say, listen, the proletariat is
20:31
coming for you unless I protect you. And so they
20:40
go start handing him cash to get elected. So he
20:45
will build a wall around the wealthy, putting them in
20:52
sort of an economic stasis. So they just always stay wealthy.
20:58
That's one of the phrases why is it an oligarchy
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Because oligarchs are people who will never lose their money.
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Their money isn't tied to anything more than the political
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power of the leader of the country. And some would
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say it goes the other way around, the oligarchs choose
21:16
the leader. I think in Russia it's the other way around.
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The leader chooses the oligarchs. Or he invites you to lunch.
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Try this soup. Oh, looks like you've had an allergic
21:29
reaction to the soup, Demitri. So that's why Zorhan Mamdani
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makes a million dollars in campaign fundraising in a year,
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because the rich guys and gals of New York are
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handing him cash and please please don't take all my money.
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Please protect me from the proletariat. That's always been the calculus.
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He didn't invent it, he's just working it.
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bioavailable and highly absorbable curcumin products on the market. I
24:12
am doctor Mitch. Since most chronic diseases have inflammation, our
24:18
optimized curcumin seems to be a perfect addition to any
24:22
nutritional program. It makes sense to me that preventing or
24:26
reducing inflammation is a key component to our overall health.
24:31
The Mayo Clinic found that kurcumin can decrease swelling and inflammation,
24:36
has antioxidant properties, and research suggests that kurcumin can prevent
24:41
cancer or at least slow the spread of cancer, and
24:45
in many instances, make chemotherapy more effective. It protects our
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healthy cells even from radiation totalwellness dot com, where we
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help you to look good, feel good, and enjoy total wellness.
25:02
Speaker 10: I'm ANDREWS. Saul, Commission of Solid Security. I'm here to
25:05
warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
25:10
Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
25:13
will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
25:16
personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
25:21
are not from US. Real Social Security employees will never
25:25
threaten you for information or money. If you receive a
25:29
call like this, hang up. Never give the call of
25:33
your personal information like your Social Security number or bank account,
25:37
or send money in any form cash, gift cards, wire transfers,
25:42
or prepaid debit cards. Report the call to our law
25:46
enforcement on the Office of the Inspector General at OYG
25:51
dot SSA dot gov.
25:55
Speaker 12: Uh oh bra, that's buzzed.
25:56
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah. He's starting with the woots.
26:00
Speaker 12: And now a speech.
26:02
Speaker 13: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
26:06
art and brain.
26:07
Speaker 7: Who's with me?
26:08
Speaker 12: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed, and my
26:11
brain is saying when it's time to go home, somebody.
26:13
Speaker 21: Call me a ride.
26:15
Speaker 14: Love that guy, me too.
26:16
Speaker 6: Know your buzzed warning signs call for a ride when
26:19
it's time to go home. Buzz driving is drunk driving.
26:23
Speaker 15: Did you know that more than half our household energy
26:25
costs go to heating and cooling. Energy efficiency isn't just
26:29
good for the environment, It means lower utility bills too.
26:34
One way to reduce your energy waste is a home
26:36
energy assessment. Your utility company can help, or you can
26:40
learn how to do it yourself at energysavers dot gov.
26:43
That's energysavers dot gov. You'll learn to look for air
26:47
leaks around windows and doors, check ducks for holes, and
26:50
improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs is
26:54
when you shop for a new appliance. Look for the
26:57
energy Star logo and read the Energy Guide labor and
27:00
there are day to day things you can do. Lower
27:03
your thermostat in winter and raise it in the summer,
27:06
close fireplace stampers when they're not in use, and keep
27:09
air filters clean. For more tips on saving money by
27:13
reducing your energy waste, check out FTC dot gov. Slash
27:17
green a tip from the Federal Trade Commission, the nation's
27:21
consumer protection agency.
27:24
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27:26
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say he's lucky to have a.
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Speaker 7: Lucky.
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a part of me, like my arms and legs, so
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I'll be his no time, fort tired, nothing can disable
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this love.
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Speaker 2: The first thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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Joe Thomas, looking.
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Speaker 23: For making something off your own mind feel so fun.
28:23
Speaker 17: You know, business, you know, and there's nothing but you
28:29
can't do you listen to that sent me by the way, amazing.
28:39
Speaker 7: Amen, right, and roll.
28:44
Speaker 3: Up our sleeves if you're even wearing sleeves. I mean
28:47
it's the You've got white collar, blue collar, and no color, uh,
28:51
and all of them come together. Each morning Talk Media
28:54
Network Live from the State Policy Network Annual meetings here
28:59
in the French Quarter of New Orleans had a great
29:02
time yesterday everyone was arriving. We've got ed Pinto standing
29:07
by from the American Enterprise Institute because housing even in
29:11
our flagship city. Uh, they're about to have a big
29:14
vote on whether the government should allow housing in a
29:19
development area. We were talking about this just yesterday. And
29:22
maybe you go and if you're listening in our flagship city,
29:26
go to the Harrisonburg City Council and say, listen, get
29:29
out of the way. Look at what they're doing in Houston.
29:31
Get out of the way. Housing will build if you
29:36
get out of the way. But it's it's so hard
29:39
to tell somebody in government to stop doing something. It's always,
29:44
you know, one thing on top of another thing. Oh
29:47
my gosh, it's a mess. It's like the cut twice
29:51
measure once crowd. Joel is hanging on the line with
29:54
us at four three four eight eight two four two
29:57
one seven. He's had an adverse reaction to this thing.
30:00
I've said, good morning, Joel. I can't I can't prescribe
30:04
anything for you, but I will let you do talk
30:06
therapy to get it out of your system.
30:08
Speaker 7: What's going on. That's right.
30:10
Speaker 24: The talk therapy is good for me.
30:12
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, So what's on your mind?
30:16
Speaker 24: Well, when I whenever I hear Adam King, King, kings
30:20
Inner whatever his name is, something something that has to
30:25
you can't say it over the air, but something about
30:27
a cat, you know, like with a pea cat. And
30:30
Mandami you know he's got especially for Kinzinger, he's what
30:36
the January sixth idiot. And then Madami is the which
30:40
which is some more on it. He's a Muslim, he's
30:43
a socialist and he wants he cares.
30:46
Speaker 7: About all the people who.
30:48
Speaker 24: Are gay and you know he's he's all that stuff
30:52
who transgender and it's like why my thing is and
30:58
I wish one of the some of the Denmark as
31:00
we're calling. But they have all these people and it's
31:02
just like clowns and idiots, and they're all about themselves.
31:06
They're not about doing anything for they're not about doing
31:10
anything for the individual, for each individual and the American
31:14
which we say we the people. They believe in them
31:17
as the people. And that's all I wanted to say.
31:20
I have to go, but you have a good morning.
31:22
Speaker 3: Well you go save some lives, Joel, and you know,
31:25
much more sanctified. But I appreciate your points on Kinsinger
31:29
especially and Zohan mad Money you know about being about them.
31:36
But that's that's the virtue signaling of the American left,
31:40
which is, I don't want to help people and their
31:43
conditions in their lives. I want to elect somebody who
31:47
tells me that they are going to do it. It's like,
31:51
you know, every election you've got, you know the races
31:56
between take care of yourself versus I'll take care of
32:01
you and gosh, who was it? And I'm sure there's
32:05
been multiple people who have talked about the idea of
32:08
campaigning against Santa Claus and we see it in this
32:11
housing thing. And I mentioned that housing is probably half
32:17
of the breakout sessions right now are looking at best practices,
32:21
people who have done things that have actually fixed in affordability.
32:28
I think it's thirty no, sorry, Nationwide, it's forty seven
32:32
percent of all people pay at least thirty percent of
32:36
their income into housing, which is considered anything more than
32:42
thirty percent is considered housing burdened. And I remember it
32:48
being about twenty five percent. The rule of thumb when
32:51
I was a kid was that if you could find
32:55
rent for the amount of money you took home each week,
33:03
then you were okay, Well, so that's twenty five percent
33:07
of your So now we're at thirty actually twenty seven
33:13
percent of our local area where our flagship is is
33:17
at fifty percent or more of their take home. So
33:20
Ed Pinto says he has an idea American Enterprise Institute
33:25
going to a drop a new idea on housing.
33:29
Speaker 7: Ed, So, what's what's your idea?
33:31
Speaker 3: Here at the State Policy By the way, our State
33:33
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33:48
at the State Policy Network meetings as well as the
33:51
Virginia Institute for Public Policy where if if you're listening
33:56
here at WGSO in New Orleans, you can come by
33:59
and visit with me at the Sheraton by the American
34:03
by the Virginia Institute for Public Policy booth there.
34:06
Speaker 7: So tell us, you know, first off.
34:08
Speaker 3: Your background in housing and how you come to this
34:11
and how you and how you come to be the
34:15
go to guy for the American Enterprise Institute on housing.
34:18
Speaker 25: I've been in the housing finance area for over fifty
34:21
years I started. We started collecting data about twelve or
34:25
thirteen years ago. We got to a point about four
34:28
or five years ago where we could start focusing on
34:30
supply solutions, and then eight months ago we decided to
34:33
put together six six hundred playbooks, one for each of
34:37
six thousand geographies. We have one for every state. We
34:40
have one for about three thousand cities and towns. We
34:46
have ones for four hundred metropolitan areas, and all the
34:52
counties one thousand counties, and so these are all unique playbooks.
34:55
And what we found was a very simple solution. There's
34:59
a saying in real sales state the three most important
35:01
things in real estate.
35:02
Speaker 7: Are location, location, and location.
35:05
Speaker 25: The three most important things in housing that's affordable are
35:08
smaller lots, smaller lots, smaller lots. And why is it
35:13
smaller lots, smaller lots, smaller lots. Well, if you have
35:15
a smaller lot, you have less land. Less land costs less,
35:19
so the price of the housing goes down just because
35:21
as less land. If you have a smaller lot, you
35:24
build a smaller house on a smaller lot. It's still
35:26
going to be family sized because you're building single family
35:29
detached and detached homes and they're going to average three
35:32
to four bedrooms, so it's still a family sized home,
35:34
but it's going to be smaller than the home on
35:36
a larger lot.
35:37
Speaker 2: That saves money.
35:38
Speaker 7: And if you build town homes.
35:40
Speaker 25: Of the same size as a single family detached, not
35:44
only would the land be smaller, but the size of
35:46
the home could be the same size. But you're going
35:49
to end up with fewer walls, exterior walls, fewer windows.
35:53
You don't have as many exterior walls, and so that
35:56
reduces costs. So smaller lots, smaller lots, smaller lot. Then
36:00
did a series of studies. We did a total of
36:02
about thirty of them around the country, including around the world,
36:05
and we found there.
36:06
Speaker 26: Was a.
36:08
Speaker 25: Success sequence that we found that success sequence starts with
36:12
legalize smaller lives. Number two, keep it simple, stupid regulations,
36:18
kiss principle. If you do those two things in every
36:22
case we studied, you will get an explosion of grassroots,
36:27
explosion of development from the bottom.
36:29
Speaker 3: Up, which is where you need it. I mean, you
36:32
don't need Toll Brothers coming in building a giant property.
36:38
Speaker 25: You do need if you're talking about So we end
36:41
up with then four plays in our playbook, play number
36:44
one new residential subdivision. That's where you do need told
36:48
Brothers and the d R. Hortens of the world and
36:51
the Polties of the world, because they build the vast
36:53
majority of those homes, and they would love to be
36:55
building them on smaller lots with smaller homes if it
36:58
were legal. The only thing that stops them from doing
37:01
it is they're illegal. They don't do it out of choice,
37:04
they do it because it's illegal. We can demonstrate that
37:06
with our case studies, and they would definitely want to
37:09
do more homes on the same amount of land. They'll
37:12
make more money. Nothing wrong with making more money. How
37:14
do we know they'll make more money. Well, the analogy
37:17
I use is a thought experiment. You have ten acres
37:20
and you're going to build ten one acre homes, sell
37:22
them each for a million dollars. That's ten million dollars.
37:25
On the other hand, you could build twenty town homes
37:28
on each acre. You're now two hundred town homes selling
37:31
for three hundred thousand dollars. Which one are you going
37:33
to make more money out?
37:33
Speaker 4: Oh?
37:34
Speaker 7: Now, hang on a second.
37:35
Speaker 3: Here, you're asking the kid from the New York City
37:36
Public schools to do math ed Pinto American Enterprise Institute
37:41
working with the US Chamber on these plan They're going
37:44
to release it all on Friday. Hang on with us
37:47
here at the State Policy Network annual meetings here in
37:52
New Orleans. Housing Housing, Housing, I mean, is it more essential?
37:56
Food and shelter? Isn't that what they say are the essentials?
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Speaker 3: And can you download this If you're listening in you know,
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Speaker 25: You will be able to do that so Friday, this
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Speaker 3: You know, there was another factor you said could really
45:06
play a big role in it, and that is the zoning.
45:08
And we talked a little bit about this on last
45:10
week's one of last week's programs. You can find the
45:13
podcast up at Joe Thomas in the Morning or First
45:16
Thing Today dot com. You talked about, you know, changing
45:20
the way we look at zoning, and we talked about Houston,
45:23
where they allow mixed use truly. I mean, if you've
45:27
got an empty warehouse, you can tear it down and
45:30
build houses on it, which you can't do in a
45:32
lot of places.
45:33
Speaker 25: So Houston started this in nineteen ninety eight when they
45:36
passed a law in the inn. It's actually the first
45:40
loop big loop around Houston. I think it's six ten
45:43
Interstate sixty ten. It's about an eighty square mile area
45:47
of Houston City, and they basically said you could split
45:50
lots inside that loop. That led to a tens and
45:54
tens and tens of thousands of houses being built on
45:57
smaller lots. They then expanded to the entire city at
46:01
about twenty thirteen. It's been incredibly successful. Austin did the
46:05
same thing in about twenty twenty two, twenty three, probably
46:09
twenty three. Then the state of Texas just this summer
46:14
passed a law called a Small New Residential Subdivision small
46:19
lot law that allows requires that cities, larger cities and
46:24
larger counties in Texas, they're limited to the highest minimum
46:30
lot size they can have as three thousand square feet.
46:33
Many cities either have a minimum lot size of five
46:36
to six thousand square feet, or they have zoning that
46:40
says you have to have five homes per acre, which
46:44
is eight thousand square feet, two homes per acre which
46:47
is twenty one thousand square feet, whatever, one home per
46:50
acre which is forty three thousand square feet, and so
46:53
many cities have minimum lot sizes through zonings. This basically says,
46:57
look at you cannot have a minimum lot size is
47:00
effectively in either zoning or by lot size of greater
47:04
than three thousand if you're one of these cities. That's
47:06
the first state in the country to do this for
47:08
new residential sub divisions.
47:09
Speaker 3: And you said, it's created a boom in opportunities for
47:12
people to find out.
47:13
Speaker 25: It just passed and it just got signed by the
47:16
governor last week. It takes effect later this year.
47:20
Speaker 7: But the Houston stuff was a boom.
47:22
Speaker 25: Was a huge boom. That's why Houston's without the most
47:25
affordable large city in the United States. People say it's
47:28
because they don't have zoning. Well, yes, they don't have zoning,
47:30
but they had a lot of land use requirements, and
47:32
one of the land use requirements was minimum lot size.
47:35
Speaker 7: But that's a form of zoning.
47:37
Speaker 25: It's a form of zoning. It's not a zone, but
47:39
it is a type of land use restriction. And so
47:42
they got rid of that and they've had tens and
47:46
tens of thousands of homes get built. So you were
47:49
talking about on the commercial side, is a second bill
47:53
was passed and signed by the governor which says in
47:57
commercial and light industrial air area is you can by
48:01
right build residential. Again, this is part of the original
48:05
zoning structure. You have a commercial zone, you can't build residential.
48:09
You have a light industrial zone, you can't build residential,
48:11
even if that's the highest and best use for that land.
48:14
A developer wants to buy the land and build housing,
48:16
why not? And so they passed a law again that
48:20
was signed by the governor last week that allows that.
48:23
And then they passed a third law that will allow
48:26
the conversion of commercial buildings, strip, shopping malls and things
48:31
like that to housing.
48:32
Speaker 7: We're seeing that.
48:33
Speaker 3: I mean those shopping malls alone, which have gone the
48:36
way of the dodo. What are you going to do
48:38
with them?
48:38
Speaker 7: Right?
48:38
Speaker 25: And they have a lot of parking and stuff, and
48:42
they have plenty of space, and they don't need as
48:43
much parking as they needed for the shopping mall. Although
48:47
the Nimbies. There's a case in Sarasota. It was the
48:50
Sarasota Square Mall. It is huge mall with acres and
48:54
acres and acres and acres of parking. What are the
48:57
neighbors complaining about that? When they put housing on, its
49:00
going to create parking? Excuse me? There was more parking
49:04
when it was a shopping mall, but they'll they'll grasp
49:06
it any straw because they don't want anything to change.
49:10
The question you have to ask the nimbi's is two questions,
49:13
and this is what's been effective. Question Number one, where
49:16
will your children and grandchildren live? And do you want
49:20
them living one thousand miles away? Because that's what's going
49:22
to happen in Virginia if they can't live in Virginia.
49:26
Do you want them to become California? Do you want
49:29
to become California or New York because that's where housing
49:32
prices are out of sight. So if you want to
49:34
become California, keep doing what you're doing, but your children
49:37
will have no place to live.
49:38
Speaker 3: So ed last question, and this is perhaps the kill
49:41
shot of it. How do you get a politician to
49:45
admit it's like aa, you know you stand up.
49:47
Speaker 7: Hello. My name is Joe.
49:49
Speaker 3: I was a state legislator and I've been the problem.
49:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been the problem all along.
49:55
Speaker 3: How do you get somebody in the government to then
49:58
say we need to govern life.
50:00
Speaker 25: I think the answer is that you have to start
50:04
with presenting a solution. And we've got all the facts,
50:08
all the figures, all the data to present the solution.
50:11
Number one, we can show why it's effective and so
50:14
then you go to them. So here's the argument with Florida. Florida,
50:17
you have a problem. You are growing by leaps and
50:21
bounds economically. Who's your biggest competition, Texas? What did Texas
50:25
just do? They just passed a package of bills that
50:28
puts them way ahead of you. And by the way,
50:30
they were already much more affordable than you were, and
50:32
they went ahead and passed these laws.
50:34
Speaker 3: But we can blame the housing insurance industry, you know,
50:37
in Florida. I'm I'm kidding, but that's what they do.
50:41
Speaker 25: It's like, well, it's yeah, they should be blaming Chairman
50:46
Powell from the FED. He's the one that drove the
50:48
prices up by you know, driving interest rates down to
50:51
three percent. So Florida needs to do something because otherwise
50:54
they're going to become New York and you're going to
50:57
end up with people like Mandami who's running for New
50:59
York mayor going to somebody in Florida's gonna say we
51:02
need to have rent control, we need this and this,
51:04
and there be people that will vote for that.
51:06
Speaker 3: You already have a lot of New Yorkers that live
51:08
in Florida anyway.
51:09
Speaker 25: So you don't want Florida to become New York. So
51:11
that's number one. You have to be able to compete
51:13
with Texas. Number two, you have to figure out how
51:16
you're going to provide more housing. We've looked at all
51:18
of the options. And when I say the options are
51:22
new residential subdivisions, just increase the reduced the lot sizes
51:27
for those. Allow the developer to make a choice as
51:29
to what the lot sizes. Some will be larger, some
51:32
will be smaller, but on average they're going to be
51:33
smaller than if the planners figure out what they are
51:36
Number one. Number two is to allow the lot splits
51:39
and the duplexus, triplexes, and town homes to be built
51:43
in single family residential subdivisions existing ones those used to
51:47
be normal. Here's that I'll finish with this. If you
51:49
go to the most popular places, and it's probably true
51:52
in Charlottesville in the United States, you go to the
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Sunset District of San Francisco, which is one of the
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most popular residential areas the city of San Francisco. It
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was built in nineteen oh four to nineteen twenty it's
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homes that are on probably three thousand square foot lots
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with virtually a couple of feet between each building, with
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no backyards. They are incredibly popular. Yet that's what Nimbi's
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will fight to the death not to build anymore of.
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Speaker 14: If you go to.
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Speaker 25: If you go to Alexandria, Virginia and the town homes,
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they will fight to the death not to have those.
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They're fighting in Arlington not to have them.
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Speaker 3: Hoboken, New Jersey, all these brownstones that you know, the
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yuppies find and they realize, oh my gosh, look at
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the wood floors, look at the ten Zealers.
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Speaker 25: Sure, Hoboken and Jersey Cities. I grew up and I
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went to high school in Jersey City. I know that
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area extremely well. So both Hoboken and Jersey City have
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had a complete renaissance.
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Speaker 26: A few years ago, my youngest son had something minor
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turned into something very major in a matter of hours.
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Speaker 25: It was medicare that came through force and there was
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there's no hassles, there was no problem.
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Speaker 26: That's what's so wonderful about knowing that you're a part
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of such an incredible ministry.
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Speaker 17: Meta Share is a biblical approach to healthcare where Christians
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share each other's medical expenses.
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Speaker 6: Medishare is a family, a group of people that stick
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with you through the hardest times of your life.
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Speaker 17: Metashare isn't insurance. It's a nonprofit ministry over thirty years
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old and members have shared over eight billion dollars of
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each other's medical bills.
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Speaker 7: We don't have to spend so much on health insurance.
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Speaker 2: You can focus on on supporting other people.
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Speaker 3: Medashare is affordable.
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Speaker 17: Medishare is biblical.
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Speaker 14: Medashare is family.
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your healthcare and support your family when you need it.
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Call eight five five share forty eight five five share forty.
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That's eight five to five share forty