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  Here we go. It is the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston
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  Scott. I'm Preston. That's Jared running the radio program. Grant Allan on
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  paternity leave, and it's great to be with you. Thursday, June twenty
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  ninth, as we spirit towards show five thousand, and if you miss the
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  announcement, we expect that show to be on the Tuesday following Labor Day.
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  That's where we have it mapped out at this point. It could always change,
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  but that's the likely date of show five thousand, which will be coming
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  up then close to my birthday. How about that? Ye special? At
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  least one special day then your birthday will I am fighting with people internally about
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  the portance of that day, but any day to rate doctor Ed Moore with
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  us, you know the voice more history here on the Morning Show. Oh
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  are you? I'm great? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just got
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  back. Spent a couple of weeks in England and Scotland and I just enjoyed
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  the Heck I bet you did. Did you wear a kilt? H No?
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  People ask that, you know, I just well, no, I'm
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  kind of old school. If I were going to do that, I wouldn't
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  wear the kilt. I'd wear what they called the big rap, which was
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  the older version it kilts are quote sort of a mop more modern and there
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  you go. Here we go. The question I regret asking the big rap
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  was more you know, more of the William Wallace rap even well they got
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  we'll talk about that a little bit. Did you wear the tapest three?
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  You know, the little bag in the front and right right now? Okay,
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  all right, Scottish man purse. All right, let's let's talk about
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  we have been we have been covering myths and scandals. Yeah, and I've
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  been on the trip, probably started thinking a lot about history and obviously you
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  can't go to Scotland without thinking about history. But uh, sort of a
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  reflection on where we are today and you know, this postmodern era that we
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  are in our country, where nobody believes in anything anymore, and so always
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  everybody, every individual from themselves figuring out what the world is like. Myths
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  are important. We've talked about this before, but miss and stories are sort
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  of the glue that holds cultures together. They that make us have a common
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  identity. Him. When the founders came about, uh, you know,
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  they they became myths many of them. And a lot of the stories we've
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  talked about on the air, you know, are just not true, but
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  you know it's one of those They're not true, but they matter, They
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  matter significantly, significantly and holding together the story that is America, the promise
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  that is America, and where we are today. I was listening to you
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  in the first hour today. I was actually up that early. I'm still
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  on Scottish Times. I'm kind of confused. You know when you talk about
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  Trump and Biden, and fifty six percent for Trump of Republicans want them and
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  fifty four percent one Biden, and you look at both of them as individuals,
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  and they're highly flawed, both of them are, And you wonder why
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  and how did we get here. Why aren't we aspiring to better ourselves by
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  putting better people? Why do we not elect better people? Great people are
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  running, there's other people running. They will stand a chance because we're in
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  this era of celebritydom and who can organize things and who can structure things to
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  make it their way. We lose a lot because we don't aspire. I
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  think back when you were a kid, you had heroes. We all had
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  heroes. Our heroes were flawed. We ignored those flaws. We raced them
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  in spite of their flaws. We didn't pay a lot of attention to their
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  flaws. But having heroes gave you somebody to aspire to be. And we
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  were just talking off the air about golf. If you were a kid and
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  playing golf, you aspired to be an honorable palmer, Sammy Snead. Those
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  kinds of people. Did you know what their personal lives were like? Not
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  much. You didn't pay a lot of attention to that. You paid to
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  the quality of what they were on the golf course or what they were on
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  the ball field. That's what it meant to People were past that. Now
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  now we're so down in the weeds on everybody that life gets confusing. And
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  if you're growing up right now, you're trying to figure out you know,
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  there's the old adage about you didn't know whether to scratch or watch or wind
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  your butt. You know, that's kind of where we are right now.
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  It's so confusing. And if you're younger and you don't have a lot of
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  information and you're not real focused done the bigger picture of things, you follow
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  bad pass, you go down the wrong route, and I think that's where
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  we are today. A little more history with doctor ed Moore this morning,
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  as we tackle myths and legends and how myths come about and legends are made
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  and scandals come as a result of all of those things. Probably yeah,
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  yeah, I say, you said, off the air, came back from
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  overseas ranting a little bit, because you get a different perspective when you're over
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  there looking back here. You read, you see what their view is of
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  us, and then you start thinking about what is our view. I mean,
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  for example, recently we see all these declines in educational scores, the
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  NAPE scores, national assessments, and the education probably way down. Everything's way
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  down. Well, it's very convenient to go, well, let's blame it
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  all on COVID. Well, no, they were declining pre COVID. Yes
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  they were, They've been going down. That is. Think about the future.
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  If we have a bunch of eighth graders, third grade, tenth graders
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  wherever you measuring them that can't read it grade level, and in some major
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  cities it's all of them. Uh, you know, you can't you can't
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  conceive about rule of law if you don't even understand how to use a ruler.
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  I mean that's kind of where we are. And do you see one
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  person running for president that's making education a major issue? No, because that's
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  local, that's a local problem. No, it's a national problem. If
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  we are not performing where we ought to be, we're going to set the
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  precedent for a bad history. I mean that's where the history aspect of this
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  comes in. You look back, you get better by achievement. We don't
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  emphasize achievement anymore. We argue about with kids at third grade level of what
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  pronoun are they when they don't even understand what a pronoun is? You know
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  that that's we got to get back to the basics on these kinds of things
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  we criticize, and you and I have talked a bunch about this. We
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  criticize people from our past instead of looking at the founders and what they envisioned
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  and what they aspired to and what they created and why where they hoped it
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  to be. Well, they created a document that allowed us to aspire,
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  to sure and to get better. And our country has improved over the years,
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  even in my lifetime. This isn't the United States of the fifties in
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  terms of social justice and access and all of those kind of things. We're
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  way way ahead of where we were when I was a child. Are we
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  perfect? No, but we aspire to be. I mean, you want
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  perfection, go to the cross. There's no other perfection in life. But
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  we have pathways to get better. But we consistently are critical about people from
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  the past, yet we embrace politicians in the present that are way more flagged
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  or flawed to anything we've ever had before. It's very confusing. I just
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  sit and scratch my head. Mainly where are we and why are we here?
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  When you go over to Europe and you listen to them, I mean
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  I go over there and I go to all the sites. And actually we
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  went over there. My son lives in London, one of my sons and
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  his wife and two children, and so I got to see them. And
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  then we went north because my wife had a clan reunion in the border country
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  what's called the Debatable Lands. I find that fascinating caul An area, the
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  Debatable Lands, and it's because the part of England Scotland along the border has
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  always been in disarray. If you've ever heard of the Revers, the Reavers
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  were various clans along the border the Armstrongs, the Grahams and others, the
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  Morays that when it was convenient, they would be with England. When it
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  was convenient, they would be with an dependent and free Scotland. The Reavers
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  kind of legitimized thievery, kidnapping, you know, I mean, that's who
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  they were. They If they stole all of your cattle, they'd go hide
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  it in a valley and keep it. And if they had it for a
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  while, then it was their cattle, and then you would go back and
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  steal the cattle back. That's the way life was there. They when they
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  teach you that over there, when they talk about all these things, and
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  in the next segment, I'll talk a little bit about the history of all
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  of this. We know it from William Wallace, but it's very vastly different.
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  When they teach it, they teach it like it was, and like
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  it is, not embellished, not altered. Not all these people were horrible.
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  They embrace Henry the eighth, They don't try to correct him. And
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  he was not a nice person. Edward the first yea, yeah, Edward
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  the first horrible person. So they just embrace him. It is what it
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  was, you know. Yeah, the lens of Presidentism is a curse of
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  our culture today. Twenty one minutes after the hour The Morning Show with Preston
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  Scott captured in a fishing net. Over there is doctor Ed Moore, a
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  little more history. Glass is tied up here, all the gold chains hanging
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  down. Yeah. Is this segment inspired by your trip? Yeah, to
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  a degree, because you can't go to Scotland and spend time. We went
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  all over, up into the Highlands and all over and you can't. You
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  can't do that without being inspired by history and the concept of freedom. I
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  mean, you know, in the movie and when William Wallace died, the
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  last thing he said was freedom. That's that's one of the true things in
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  that movie. He actually did. When he was being executed, met an
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  untimely end. He was betrayed by a guy named he was betrayed and then
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  Edward the longshanks executed him, cut off his head, caught him in five
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  parts, sent four parts across Scotland to all the major parts of Scotland as
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  a warning, as a warning to everybody else. Didn't work, which he
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  realized. William Wallace was a major figure at Sterling Castle. You can look
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  across the Meadow. There's another prominent there with a giant statue, not a
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  statue, of a column in remembrance of William Wallace. He was very important.
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  My long connected ancestor would have been Andrew D. Morey, who was
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  the real leader at the time. They started fighting the English, seriously fighting
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  the English in about twelve ninety six, and none of that really ended until
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  seventeen forty six. So you twelve to ninety six, that's a long conflict,
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  ye, you go off to Warden, Well, mom, I'll be
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  back in three hundred years, you know. That's what was going on.
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  And the Battle of Culloden was the final straw. But then Scotland got its
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  independence, and it had been independent, not in not dependent, And you
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  hear all these different names, and what we hear about over here is more
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  like from Braveheart the movie, and so much wrong in there. Like Edward
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  the First didn't die. He wasn't dying while they were executing William Wallace.
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  He died a couple of years later. His son Questionable in the movie,
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  became king, invaded Scotland, won some battles, lost some battles. There
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  was always battles going on. But what you realized, is that Scotland even
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  when they had a king, which was multiple times interesting. The King Alexander
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  the third of Scotland, when he died, there was no apparent heir,
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  except for he had a granddaughter that lived in Norway. She was three and
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  they brought her back. She died on the way back coming to Scotland,
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  died in the Orkney Islands, and they were going to betroth her to Edward
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  the Second, Edward the long Shanks son. She was seven, you know
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  at the time in these travels, and they were going to be trother at
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  seven to become Queen of Scotland. And so they could bind the true character.
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  If you go go rewatch the movie, Edward the Longshanks or Edward the
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  First was the real true character. A vicious, mean person that would sack
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  cities in Scotland and was in a constant battle with France, always fighting in
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  the war with France. And he tried to put a guy named baliol In
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  as King of Scotland, hoping that he could get the Scottish Alliance to fight
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  the French. Baliol had a side deal going with the French. I mean,
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  you look back, we worry about our politicians today and who they are
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  and how they behave. And you look at these guys back then, and
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  there were no permanent alliances, just permanent interests and interest moren't even Yeah,
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  there was always self. What's in it for me? What's messed for me?
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  Uh? Robert the Bruce in the movie, Yeah, you look at
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  it historically, Robert the Bruce probably never ever met William Wallace. Uh.
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  You know, his father might have. Robert D. D. E.
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  B r Us was his father and grandfather. Uh. They didn't become the
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  king. It was between him and John Baliol. Uh. Edward first thought
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  he was being smart picked this other guy. All these machinations going on over
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  there, like say, when it comes to scandal, they were ripe with
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  scandals, that it was nothing but scandals. Over here, we have a
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  little thing and we our hair goes on fire when they teach about these things
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  and teach about the badness, the evil parts of all of these people.
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  I mean, the clans ran Scotland for till till after seventeen forty six in
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  the Battle of Culloden, when they finally started pulling together some degree of governance.
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  The clans that were they did what they wanted to do. And today
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  your clan and my clan might be getting along, and tomorrow with this guy
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  fighting you. That's the way of life over there. They don't sugarcoat it.
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  They don't worry about the CRT and all these other things. He just
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  told, no worry about offenses. They just teach the history of history how
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  it is. We can't have our myths, we can't have our stories if
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  we're constantly setting them on fire, if we're constantly degrading them and tearing people
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  down. Accept people for the flawed people that they are, and let's build
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  together. Let's move forward. Let's use education as a way to pull our
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  society back together. We're heading in the wrong direction and it's sad for me.
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  Some of us think it's irretrievably broken. I don't think so. Okay,
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  never give up. I'm aut chre chillian. Never to give up,
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  never give up, never to sunder. That's correct, all right. Good
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  to see you, Good to see you too. Doctor Ed Moore with It's
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