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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman & Lindahl 1-27-25 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald is our Broncos insider.
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five Pro Football, the.
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  Speaker 1: Insider, I've covered the league while Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: Legwald too cute. Let's dial down the queue and just
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  Speaker 3: play football.
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  Speaker 2: Brought to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
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  Speaker 4: Starting with a job and with a career IVDW Local
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  Speaker 4: sixty eight.
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  Speaker 1: It's Leggy, Yeah, Jeff Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: On Altitude Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Radio ninety two five.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Legwald.
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  Speaker 2: Time here on a Monday afternoon, Jeff Legwald, brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers ibe W
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  Speaker 2: Local sixty eight.
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  Speaker 1: You start with a job, you end with a career.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the road to the top one hundred has begun.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Legwald joining us. He is in the proximity of
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  Speaker 2: the Senior Ball. This guy's about to get real scouty
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 1: Leggy. How you doing, man, I'm good?
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  Speaker 3: Are you got?
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  Speaker 1: We're doing all right, Leggy? Before we dive into the
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  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I guess there were some football games yesterday of some
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  Speaker 2: consequence that were played. Is it possible to beat those
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  Speaker 2: guys without just playing an absolutely perfect game? Like the
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  Speaker 2: Bills played well, but they didn't play perfect and just
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  Speaker 2: the slightest crack of the door means that Andy Reid
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  Speaker 2: and Mahomes are gonna kick it down and they're going
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  Speaker 2: to win. Like, how in God's name does this just
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  Speaker 2: continue to happen?
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  Speaker 3: Said it?
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  Speaker 5: We said it Friday. You cannot leave it a one
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  Speaker 5: possession game. That I think that's you have to approach
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  Speaker 5: it like, you know, your touchdowns have to be like
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  Speaker 5: nine points, you know what I mean, You got to
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  Speaker 5: you gotta just keep you know, you can't give them
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  Speaker 5: the ball in the last five minutes of a game
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  Speaker 5: with the opportunity to beat you as he is Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, he will beat you.
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  Speaker 5: And he doesn't necessarily need the best receivers or all pros.
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  Speaker 3: Or you know, he's got Kelsey always.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying, you know his We've
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  Speaker 5: talked a lot about how they haven't looked good or
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  Speaker 5: you know, they played too many one score games. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I think yesterday was their twelve. You know, it's it's
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  Speaker 5: just you can't give them the opportunity to beat you.
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  Speaker 5: And if that beings somehow being two scores ahead, that's
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  Speaker 5: what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: Leggy, the the the analytical part of your brain and
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  Speaker 2: watching the Chiefs and what they do right now, because
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  Speaker 2: they don't they don't pick up chunk plays. They don't
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  Speaker 2: necessarily even just like ram it down your throat in fact,
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  Speaker 2: and like you know, you know the metric, like they're
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  Speaker 2: a success rate team.
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  Speaker 1: They just they live.
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  Speaker 2: Off of staying ahead of the sticks and nominal execution.
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  Speaker 2: And when you watch it, like is that some code
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  Speaker 2: that that Andy Reid has cracked or is it just
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  Speaker 2: that he has the exact right players to be able
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  Speaker 2: to play that way?
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  Speaker 3: I think both.
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  Speaker 5: You know, if maybe you know, if if Mahomes gets
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  Speaker 5: Philadelphia Andy Reid, maybe it's not as perfect. But I
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  Speaker 5: think time experience playoff disappointments, and and Andy Reid's honesty
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  Speaker 5: is with himself as a coach to say what do
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  Speaker 5: I need to do?
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  Speaker 3: What's the best?
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  Speaker 5: You know, he evolved a little bit and then he's
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  Speaker 5: got the guy and that's you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 5: I think Nick Saban has said many times that he
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  Speaker 5: never coached a bad player to play good, and I think,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you got to have the guy to do that.
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  Speaker 5: Those kinds of things that they do at the level
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  Speaker 5: they do. But I think one thing that strikes me
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  Speaker 5: every time.
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  Speaker 3: I see him.
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  Speaker 5: And I know, you know, locally we don't like talking
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  Speaker 5: about how this. You know, they're good for.
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  Speaker 3: So long, but they're very patient.
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  Speaker 5: They save the good stuff for the exact right time
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  Speaker 5: in the game, whether it's a blitz.
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  Speaker 1: Sending McDuffie off the edge fourth down.
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  Speaker 5: It's just they have a knack, you know, they don't unlook,
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  Speaker 5: they don't like so many teams, including the Broncos, unpacked
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  Speaker 5: the suitcase on the first drive.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, here you go, this is all
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  Speaker 3: this good.
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  Speaker 5: Stuff we have, you know, have at it and they
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  Speaker 5: you know, they're just patient.
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  Speaker 3: They've matched the personnel.
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  Speaker 5: And I've said it before, that's it's basically a draft
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  Speaker 5: built team. And when you draft players and you have success,
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  Speaker 5: both those players are invested in you, in your team,
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  Speaker 5: in your franchise, in your culture. It just is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: von Miller may have played for two other teams since
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos, but in his mind, he's still invested in
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the way it is. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: you top all of that off with the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's in such rare air if they
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  Speaker 5: win this game. You know, obviously the three peat would
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  Speaker 5: be a first of the super Bowl era, but he
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  Speaker 5: would also be in the Branshaw neighborhood of four super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl wins in six years. He would be in the
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  Speaker 5: Brady neighborhood of you know, three four super Bowl tighter.
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  Speaker 5: You know, at least three titles in your first seven years,
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  Speaker 5: eight years of the league.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's Brady territory. I mean, he's they're in rare air.
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  Speaker 3: If they pull off the win.
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  Speaker 5: Now, it ain't gonna be easy because now they've they've
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  Speaker 5: got a heavyweight across from now.
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  Speaker 4: All right, explain to me how that wasn't a first down?
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  Speaker 4: And how can they better measure whether it is or
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  Speaker 4: not other than because look, Jeff, yeah it's but but
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not getting all over the refs. You got
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  Speaker 4: you got a thousand huge bodies pushing against each other.
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  Speaker 4: There's camera angles everywhere. They make it look like he
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  Speaker 4: made it to where he needed to go. What was
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  Speaker 4: the final decider in that that that wasn't enough for
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  Speaker 4: a first down?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I can only tell you what I've
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  Speaker 5: been told and when I've done pool reports and all
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  Speaker 5: the rest of it. That television doesn't have all the
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  Speaker 5: angles that the officials do. I've always been told that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's true. I've not stood in
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  Speaker 5: the uh you know, I've not had a chance to
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  Speaker 5: be in the replay booth in New York.
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  Speaker 3: Or on site to see if that's actually true.
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  Speaker 5: But it's always what I've been told, that there are
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  Speaker 5: angles we don't get on television. I find that hard
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  Speaker 5: to believe, but that's what I've been told. And you know, look,
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  Speaker 5: they they hold major tennis tournaments with no lines people
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  Speaker 5: now because they have lasers and hawkeye and all the
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  Speaker 5: rest of it that you know, the technology is out there,
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  Speaker 5: but the league is is that that's one place they've
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  Speaker 5: not been willing to go, and no one really has
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  Speaker 5: a good answer for as to why.
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  Speaker 3: But the technology does exist. I mean, they got.
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  Speaker 5: Cameras and the pylons right at the goal line and
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  Speaker 5: all the rest of it, and they do on the
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  Speaker 5: first down markers. But you know, again, to me, if
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  Speaker 5: they can have you know, the Australian Open tennis tournament
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  Speaker 5: with no lines people because the lasers, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: hawk gys handling the business, I think that would work
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, I want to make it clear,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Josh Allen had to play to James Cook
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  Speaker 4: where he could make the throw. James Cook runs for
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  Speaker 4: who knows how far if he does so. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: putting this all on one four it down, but it
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  Speaker 4: is frustrating to have yet any other call kind of
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  Speaker 4: be part of the storyline of this thing. And then
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  Speaker 4: there's the catch, and the catch was weird the dual
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  Speaker 4: possession or did it at the ground or whatever. I
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  Speaker 4: think we're getting used to some catch being contested. I
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  Speaker 4: do want to ask you this, though, Jeff, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you go back with you always.
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  Speaker 5: You know Andy, you know this. For centuries, we've always
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  Speaker 5: felt like the good teams get all the calls. That's
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  Speaker 5: just the way it is.
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  Speaker 4: Well and again, they made all the plays. They continue
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  Speaker 4: to make all the plays. They get a field goal,
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  Speaker 4: and a field goal holds up, and like you said,
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  Speaker 4: they're bringing blitz at the right time. Kansas City's just
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  Speaker 4: that good. It makes me puke in my mouth, but
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  Speaker 4: it is. How about Josh Allen, how does he get
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  Speaker 4: over this? Have you ever come in an athlete that's
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  Speaker 4: had to face this, because even what mating lost twice
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  Speaker 4: in the playoffs before he finally beat Brady. But he
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  Speaker 4: did finally beat Brady. Like they were talking about it
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  Speaker 4: all over ESPN today. We have never seen one quarterback
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  Speaker 4: own another quarterback four and oher in the playoffs. How
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  Speaker 4: does Josh keep like? How does how do he keep
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  Speaker 4: coming back for more? If you're Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, part of the reason we haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: it is this is the first time the number two
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  Speaker 3: in the AFC has been so clearly the you know,
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  Speaker 3: Burrow hasn't been able to get his swings at it
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  Speaker 3: like Alan has.
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  Speaker 5: Alan's team has been better, their organization's been better. So
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of this weird confluence of things that makes him,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the other guy so many times already because
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  Speaker 5: you know, nobody else can get their act together enough.
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  Speaker 3: To get a crack at it. But you know, I
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  Speaker 3: was around the Bills.
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  Speaker 5: I covered the Bills at the end of their run,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and Jim Kelly had not one in four
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  Speaker 5: consecutive cracks at the Super Bowl. And it does weigh
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  Speaker 5: I told I said Friday, there there is an inherent
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  Speaker 5: pressure in that town, and I don't think players can
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  Speaker 5: simply ignore it. There's no way to avoid it, and
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  Speaker 5: it will weigh on you at some point because guys
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  Speaker 5: like playing there. That fan base is different. It is,
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  Speaker 5: it's still he's got a different vibe. Ah, it's it's
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  Speaker 5: almost like Green Bay and it's and it's sort of
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  Speaker 5: cultural texture of where the team fits in the city,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And I think that's gonna weigh on players.
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  Speaker 5: And no more, you know, no player will have more
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  Speaker 5: weight with that than Josh Allen And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I just don't think he got enough help. And I
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  Speaker 5: just I don't know why they coaches continually go away
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  Speaker 5: from things that are working.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they don't want to have it be too
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  Speaker 3: good for too long.
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  Speaker 5: I just I live in the Shanahan world, where you know,
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  Speaker 5: he would just say until they stop it, just keep
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  Speaker 5: doing it. But James Cook should not have that few
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  Speaker 5: carries in the first half. You keep building the lead,
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  Speaker 5: you keep the ball, you do everything you need to
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  Speaker 5: do if you just stick with that a little.
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  Speaker 1: More six and a half yards carry. And he only
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  Speaker 1: carried the ball thirteen times in that game.
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  Speaker 5: I can't I can't wrap my It happens every week
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL, Like you know, it's I'm I'm don
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  Speaker 5: Quixote in the windmill.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, he's our Sancho Panza, everybody, He's Jeff Legwald with
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  Speaker 2: us here on a Monday afternoon, all right, like you,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about the other side of the bracket. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles just big boy the hell out of
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  Speaker 2: the Manders yesterday. Again, Washington made the mistakes and when
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  Speaker 2: they did, Philadelphia absolutely punish them. I rewatched the game
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  Speaker 2: today and the thing that struck me was how well
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts played in that game yesterday, both both running
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  Speaker 2: the football, operating outside of the pocket, and then twenty
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  Speaker 2: to twenty eight for two forty six, like his best
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  Speaker 2: passing game in quite some time. If the Eagles can
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  Speaker 2: put that together with with Hurts playing in that way
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  Speaker 2: and with Saquon doing the thing, is that enough to
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  Speaker 2: overcome the dark magic of Mahomes and Reid.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, get up two scores. Yeah, going to the last
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  Speaker 5: five minutes of the game. Up two scores and take
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  Speaker 5: your crack. But when the Jalen Hurts has a very
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  Speaker 5: definite line of demarcation, when he gets the ball out
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  Speaker 5: of his hand and under three, he's a far different quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: And if he can get that number down to two
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  Speaker 5: five and even under that, he's a far different quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the one thing I took away yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: And look, we said Friday, turnovers will kill you if
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  Speaker 5: you're Washington, and you know twenty one points off turnovers,
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  Speaker 5: and the one before the half, that's that's a playoff
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  Speaker 5: you know, backbreaker.
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  Speaker 3: You know that you just can't have those in a
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  Speaker 3: playoff game. But when it hurts.
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  Speaker 5: Moves the ball and gets it out of his hand,
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  Speaker 5: it's a totally different offense.
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  Speaker 3: And the people who have succeeded have made him hold it,
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  Speaker 3: have pinned him in there and made them hold the ball.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what you gotta do because that that is
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  Speaker 5: a gold gym team. They come out just to flex
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  Speaker 5: on you and shove you around and see if you
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  Speaker 5: can hold up.
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  Speaker 3: And not many people do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that that goal line sequence was comical. I
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  Speaker 5: mean they almost that's a very little known rule, but
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  Speaker 5: it does exist. And they almost simply awarded a touchdown
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  Speaker 5: because they were tired of penalties.
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  Speaker 1: But that here's what annoys me about that rule though.
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  Speaker 2: Did this drive you guys nuts when they're just like well,
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  Speaker 2: if this behavior continues, we may have to award it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the line.
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  Speaker 2: Shouldn't there be a like a specific line of demarcation
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  Speaker 2: of when the penalty dry.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the la, Welcome to the rule book. It's like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whenever he feels like it. But he sounded
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  Speaker 3: it sounded like such a substitute teacher. Behavior continues. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I got to ask you.
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  Speaker 4: This is not really a big picture thing, but you
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  Speaker 4: you like fake punts? Yeah, that was the most Like
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was the most technically difficult fake punt pass?
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  Speaker 3: Leggy?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of that? I was like, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that was like it. That was you needed
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  Speaker 1: almost like a real throw on that one.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't just some guy off in space and don't
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  Speaker 4: mess up an easy pass because no one was around him.
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  Speaker 4: He had a dude in trail.
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  Speaker 1: That must be.
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  Speaker 4: That might have been the most impressive fake punt pass
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  Speaker 4: I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 5: And then out of it there ask a lot of
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  Speaker 5: tressway on that playable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, did you drink hold on the Leggy's
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  Speaker 4: down there? Hey, Leggy, anybody in mobile we need to
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  Speaker 4: keep our ears open for who are you most excited
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  Speaker 4: to go peep eyes in.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's an interesting group of qbs because the
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  Speaker 5: class is very top heavy, you know, the top two guys,
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  Speaker 5: and they're a huge gap, and you know, somebody's getting
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  Speaker 5: picked in the first round beyond the two quarterbacks, beyond
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  Speaker 5: the top two quarterbacks, and they the guy's here can make.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of hay and find their way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: into that mix.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, I think, because I find it hard to believe
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  Speaker 5: only two quarterbacks are going in the first round of
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  Speaker 5: a draft, but there's an enormous gap between Shadour, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and and and the rest of these guys.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, and this is an interesting group down here.
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  Speaker 3: But we got uh, grab Leggy, we feel you fight info.
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  Speaker 3: I'm three for us. But now you got on the
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  Speaker 3: same team.
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  Speaker 5: They did this when the Broncos were the staff here,
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  Speaker 5: when Baker Mayfield is here and Jock Allen, but they
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  Speaker 5: have stacked.
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  Speaker 3: The one team.
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  Speaker 5: Jackson Dark, Jalen Milroe, and Riley Leonard are all on
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  Speaker 5: the same team here. So obviously people have want to
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  Speaker 5: see these guys grouped together. It's like when they put
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  Speaker 5: Pennix and bow Knicks together last year here.
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  Speaker 3: So uh.
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  Speaker 5: But That's what I'm really intrigued about because dark Dark's
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  Speaker 5: an interesting prospect because he played in such a funky
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  Speaker 5: offense and old Miss. But he's a big guy who
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  Speaker 5: can really sling it and I think if he can
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  Speaker 5: show like traditional dropback skills here, uh he he could
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  Speaker 5: be the mover in this group.
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  Speaker 4: Mmm.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff to keep an eye out.
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  Speaker 4: They're addicting that that Dart will be the one everyone falls.
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  Speaker 1: In love with.
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  Speaker 2: Six Big Sills two yeah mm hmmm uh Leggy, last thing.
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  Speaker 4: Ain't no Bracasweiler six eight.
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  Speaker 1: Leggy, Who the hell is Declan Doyle.
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  Speaker 2: That?
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  Speaker 3: You know? That's a nice promotion, No kidding?
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  Speaker 5: A group who death had very little production for two years,
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  Speaker 5: so I'm not sure, but that's you know, coaches go
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  Speaker 5: with who's recommended, you know, who gives him the right
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  Speaker 5: you know sort of reference. They they roll with it,
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  Speaker 5: and sometimes I think they don't even look as as
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  Speaker 5: to what happened. But you know, more power to him, baby,
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  Speaker 5: he's you know, that's a great promotion. And you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: get a little runway, you know, in a rebuild, so
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  Speaker 5: you're not gonna you're not gonna have to like you know,
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  Speaker 5: uncork unbelievable seasons and you're not the play callers, so
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  Speaker 5: you really gotta this is a game that's a game
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  Speaker 5: planning position.
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  Speaker 3: With the Bears. You know, he's he's in charge of
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  Speaker 3: getting the details right. So the head coach can be
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  Speaker 3: the head coach.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Hey is it he old?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Who is the guy outing? Is that?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Or he just basically is outing under our guy?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Right? Remember him?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a tight ends coach and he became
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: under o c under Haxie right, and then and then
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: we fire everybody and coach coach comes in and calls
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: all the plays.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Hey do Lombardi does the job here in Denver?
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: It's a big job, rightly, Franklin, And you don't get much,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: you know, the glamour. Now sometimes guys will let you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: those guys call games in the preseason and and the like.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: But you know, I don't know how they'll work it in Chicago.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: But again, you're gonna get a lot of runway there.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: So that's a good movie.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Darren Mugie too, people should know here Moogs is a
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: is a really good scout. I'm you know, I think
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: it's pretty cool. You know, he gets to run a
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: team now. And it speaks a lot too to a
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: guy that was with the Broncos for a very long time.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: You know, he he worked his.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: Way up all the way from intern uh and now
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: he's gonna be a g I me and I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: that's pretty cool.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I can't get over that spy tech work for Josh.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: That name, man, you gotta change that name.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Jeff.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody ESPN read leg walled stuff. He's down covering the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. Leg you will talk to you Friday. Thanks buddy,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Thank care.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Bell