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GEOFF TATE: Something About This Lineup Feels Off 2012 · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_00: Hi, I'm Sophie Lloyd and you're watching CMS TV.
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Alright well you sent me something over here about Glenn Drover
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talks about his
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involvement with Jeff Tate's Queensryche I thought that was
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kind of funny that John
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didn't know which version of Queensryche that he was going to
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be playing with That
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was funny I think it's the latter I think it's the band with
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the new singer but I'm
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not really sure He don't care He's not going to see him play Of
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course not He's
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SPEAKER_03: going to come and play his gig and leave
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the headliner on that I don't know to be honest with you I
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didn't see the lineup on
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that bill I don't know well apparently Glenn Drover who more or
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less his claim to
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SPEAKER_00: fame is his time in Megadeth his minute and a half in Megadeth the latest
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installment of Iron City Rocks what is that is that a podcast
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out of Pittsburgh or
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SPEAKER_03: something yeah it's not a terrible podcast it just
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The thing that struck me about Glenn Drover here was that it
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really didn't seem
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SPEAKER_03: like he knew how he got into Queens.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: You'll hear it, dude.
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SPEAKER_03: He just was like, well, you know, somebody knew somebody.
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SPEAKER_00: They asked me and I needed the money.
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SPEAKER_03: No, not they asked him.
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SPEAKER_03: Not even that.
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It's something to the effect of somebody knew somebody and
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somebody threw my name out there and
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therefore then Dave Ellefson said I might be good for the gig
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and so I got the gig
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like he doesn't have any clue how he ended up in this band sure
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totally stupid okay
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alright Iron City Rocks podcast featuring interviews with
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Canadian guitarist Glenn
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SPEAKER_00: Drover formerly of Megadeth he was in King Diamond yeah
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the podcast blah blah blah alright so we're gonna listen to
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this thing you listen
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to a little bit all you need to hear really is the first
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question with Glenn Drover
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is him asking him how he ended up in the band he literally and
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maybe I'm reading it
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wrong I only listened to it once but it just sounded like he
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has no fucking idea
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how he ended up alright I'm playing with these guys and that's
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basically all you
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SPEAKER_00: need to know
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and I've never met Jeff before that's what he said okay alright
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cool hey this is
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Jeff Scott Soto and you are listening to Iron City Rocks turn
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it up baby hey
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everybody this is John Petrucci from Dream Theater you're
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listening to Iron City
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Rocks hey this is Glenn Drover and you're listening to Iron
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City Rocks didn't the
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talking metal douchebags do this exact same thing where they
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played all their IDs
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SPEAKER_03: maybe they either stole it from him or he stole it from them okay Fox
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SPEAKER_00: Doesn't Kay and Abby start off with that same thing?
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SPEAKER_00: You asked for the best, you got the best.
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SPEAKER_00: That was Kay and Abby.
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SPEAKER_00: That was Kay and Abby.
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SPEAKER_03: Nobody ever heard them, except for us.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, Kay and Abby.
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SPEAKER_00: But they did play that same thing, right?
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SPEAKER_00: They did.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I love the choppy editing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's good.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't flow in from one to the next.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just like chop, chop, chop, chop, chop.
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SPEAKER_00: And no more than two seconds from each band.
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SPEAKER_00: I like that too.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome again to episode 169 of the Iron City Rocks podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: How about if they number these podcasts now?
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SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what the Talking Metal does?
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe we should number ours.
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SPEAKER_00: We're at like about 400 or something.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's way more than that.
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SPEAKER_00: Are we?
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SPEAKER_00: 16 years times an average of 50 a year?
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SPEAKER_00: No, but I'm saying podcasts.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, podcasts.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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show wise we're at number like 2000 or something well let's see
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what we got like 16
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SPEAKER_00: years times 50 so we're 500 we're close to 900 is that all?
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SPEAKER_00: 900?
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900 weekends over 16 years Jesus Christ that's a lot of
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weekends no wonder you're
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SPEAKER_00: not married no wonder I'm single
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chicks don't put up with you dedicating your weekends to doing
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the classic metal
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show you only gave up 800 weekends so why would she have a
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problem with that right
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SPEAKER_02: your host John the Iron City Rocks podcast comes to you from Pittsburgh
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Pennsylvania bringing you the greatest hard rock heavy metal
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blues music talk on
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the net episode 169 we're going to did you ever notice
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everybody's the greatest I
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SPEAKER_00: wonder how they all tie like that
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SPEAKER_00: who rates them?
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you and I have been doing this show for a long time minus your
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two and a half year
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absence but regardless of that I don't think we've ever once
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gone we're the
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greatest we might have goofing but we've never just flat out
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said we're the
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greatest classic metal show on the net we don't need to because
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we are we're the
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SPEAKER_00: greatest ever we're the best this is the best
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that's right there's nothing better than this a couple of prog
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rock probably prog
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metal to be more specific bands we are going to take a listen
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to Sacred Dominion
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who cleaned up last year in the 2011 Iron City Rocks Pittsburgh
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Music Awards we'll
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play a track for them in just a moment we're also going to talk
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to a band on
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Nightmare Records out of Pittsburgh PA called The Order of Nine
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we're going to talk
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SPEAKER_02: to them
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and to top it all off a man whose name has been all over the
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news headlines the
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blabbermouth and brave words of the world Glenn Drover who is
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announced to be the
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guitarist for the new incarnation of Queensryche fronted bus so
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his name has been
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all over because everybody's interested in Glenn Drover no one
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cares about Glenn
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Drover that's what I'm saying this guy's been all over the net
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I like Glenn Drover
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SPEAKER_03: but come on really
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outside of the fact that he was in that Megadeth lineup had
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anybody ever heard of him before?
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the King Diamond Hardcores probably had but that's about it I
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never heard of Glenn
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Drover outside of Megadeth I sort of knew who he was he's a
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good guitar player I'm
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not diminishing his talent I'm just saying I never heard of the
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guy outside of
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SPEAKER_00: Megadeth
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yeah no I don't think there's a whole lot I don't think people
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are talking about
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the Queensryche thing because Glenn Drover joined it I don't
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think so either it's
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all about Bobby Blotzer right by original vocalist Jeff Tate so
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we're going to talk
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to Glenn in just a little bit but first let's start out with a
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track somewhere from
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SPEAKER_02: Sacred Dominion you can find more information on these guys out at
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SPEAKER_02: sacreddominion.com Sacred Dominion
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SPEAKER_00: So does this guy play whole songs or what?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, fast forward.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: I should have cut this up.
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I haven't actually bothered to even read about all the drama
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that ensued with the two camps.
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SPEAKER_02: So Jeff Tate has formed his own band.
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SPEAKER_02: He's got Glenn Drover.
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SPEAKER_02: He's got Carrie Kelly, who...
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was a guitarist with the band for a number of years with
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Queensryche also Bobby
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SPEAKER_03: Blatt he said the wrong name Carrie Kelly?
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SPEAKER_00: is he talking about Kelly Gray?
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SPEAKER_00: okay I was just like did I miss something here?
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SPEAKER_03: what you don't remember the days when Carrie Kelly was in Queensryche?
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SPEAKER_03: no I don't where you been?
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SPEAKER_00: okay he means Kelly Gray yes okay
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Did I ever tell you the story about flying out to LA and Rudy
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Sarzo was in two
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SPEAKER_02: seats away from me?
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SPEAKER_02: No!
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SPEAKER_02: I was flying out of Chicago
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going to LA and I was in first class and and I looked over and
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Rudy Sarzo was like
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two seats like one row over two seats back nice and I and I was
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traveling with my
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brother-in-law we were going out to LA and I go hey there's
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Rudy Sarzo and of
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course he didn't know who he was yeah exactly I said so I'm
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gonna go over there and
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SPEAKER_00: talk to him right
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so I went over there and I was going out to LA and I was going
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to hook up with
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Nader and a couple other people and stuff and I had some
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classic Metal Show
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t-shirts and stuff in my bag and I had it in the overhead
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compartment I pulled out
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his shirt and stuff and I went over there and this was when his
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book Off the Rails
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SPEAKER_00: came out
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and I went over there and talked to him and I had spoken with
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him before and I
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walked up to him and he looked at me like I know who you are
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and I went over and
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said hey Rudy and I told him who I was and said oh yeah I
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remember talking to you
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and stuff and we were kind of chatting and this was when this
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was right after Dio
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SPEAKER_00: had passed away
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, and there was something about
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no no no this was after Kevin Dubrow passed away okay and he
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wasn't he wasn't like
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invited or allowed to be at the funeral or something I remember
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that because there
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was like some kind of a falling out there mm-hmm and I
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basically asked him about
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that right you know I said you know I I heard that you know
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there was some kind of
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a controversy there about you not being allowed to attend the
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funeral or something
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SPEAKER_00: or to that effect and
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he goes yeah you know I just there was a lot of
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misunderstanding there and so on
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and so forth but anyway long story short I had given him one of
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the CMS t-shirts
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and somebody I can't remember who it was if it was Richard or
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somebody sent me this
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photo where Rudy was actually wearing the t-shirt after a show
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and he was taking
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pictures with like fans and stuff and he was wearing the
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classic metal show t-shirt
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awesome another one which I thought was really cool yeah we got
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a lot of those
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pictures now don't we yeah there's people out there wearing
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those shirts all over
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the place which I think that's cool I do too it's awesome but
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we're the best that's
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right that's why they're wearing our shirts we're the best
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we're the greatest ever
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SPEAKER_03: haven't seen any pictures of anybody wearing an Iron City podcast shirt
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so anyway it was just kind of coincidental that he just
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happened to be on the plane
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sure and I just walked over there and we were just kind of
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shooting the shit you
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know nice guy though I just wish you would have told this story
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more like John
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Astronomy would have so you know I saw Rudy Sarzo on the plane
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and I talked to him
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end of story end of story I said hey man what's up and he said
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cool man and he said
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SPEAKER_03: hey how are you and then I went back to my seat
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and I sat back down and then I told my guy next to me,
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hey,
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I just talked to Rudy Sarzo.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's really how the story goes.
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SPEAKER_02: They suck.
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Jack really kind of doing a David Lee Roth solo thing where
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he's going out and
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SPEAKER_02: getting the absolute best band you can imagine.
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SPEAKER_02: So it was really cool to talk to Glenn about the situation.
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He's absolutely getting the best band out there together I
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don't think so Which guy
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SPEAKER_03: is the best?
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SPEAKER_03: Now,
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SPEAKER_00: I will admit,
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SPEAKER_00: Glenn Drover is a great guitar player Yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: but is he a very highly sought-after guitarist?
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He compared him to David Lee Roth David Lee Roth got the best
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guitar player that
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SPEAKER_03: was out there with Steve Vai Right
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Glenn Drover is not Steve Vai no nobody even knows Glenn Drover
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yeah no yeah
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anybody I mean hardcores like us know who Glenn Drover is the
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average fan does not
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know Glenn Drover's name no so and Bobby Blotzer that guy's not
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the best drummer in
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rat I'd bet uh-uh I'd bet you Steven Pierce you cannot play him
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on drums that's
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SPEAKER_03: just a hunch but I would bet that to be true right
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the only thing Bobby Blotzer's got going for him and this is
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not a knock on him
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personally it's just longevity yeah he's hung around that's it
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I don't know how
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he's not dead would anybody go man we really gotta get Bobby
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Blotzer on this
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apparently Jeff Tate did since he put the best band available
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together well you
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know what if they hadn't had a falling out you know who Jeff
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Tate probably would
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SPEAKER_00: have benefited by having in his band who
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the former drummer of Dream Theater oh yeah Mike Portnoy yeah
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if he hadn't had some
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kind of a falling out with him Mike Portnoy would have been a
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more suitable drummer
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for his lineup of Queensryche see I just think this whole
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Queensryche lineup stinks
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because he just went with just lame names to get that are names
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so that he could
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sell a couple more tickets to Hardcore well we got Bobby
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Blatzer from Rat we got
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SPEAKER_00: Glenn Drover from Megadeth we got you know
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and instead he could have put together don't you think that the
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guys in Symphony X
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would have lined up to do this project with him or or he could
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have got you know
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the guys who who did that song uh walk away from the shadow or
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whatever what was
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that name of that band oh what you know what I'm talking about
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right I can't think
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SPEAKER_03: of the name of the band off the top of my head um
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but those are the kinds of guys he should have got he should
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have put together a
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band that clearly built their whole career but is not a huge
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band but they built
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their career based on trying to mimic Mystic Prophecy he could
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have gone and got
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Mystic Prophecy as a backup band and they could have done the
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Queensryche material
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SPEAKER_00: to a T if not better
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sure absolutely and it would have been so I mean you're talking
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about guitar
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players that you could get in that realm Michael Romeo from
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Symphony X that guy is
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fucking stunningly good put that guy in there to play the
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Michael Wilton parts that
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would have been a fantastic band and you're right Mike Portnoy
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would have been a
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SPEAKER_00: fantastic drummer that's my point because he's in a band that's
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in that vein of a Queensryche yeah I mean you get some of those
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guys together now
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you're talking about something that's going to be competitive
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right what it is and
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look me and you both like Jeff we've always Jeff's always been
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cool with us but
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what he's doing is embarrassing to what he has been right he's
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always been that guy
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that was you know integrity and class and whatnot and and
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putting this fucking
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SPEAKER_03: ragtag lineup of
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SPEAKER_03: of guys that bounce from band to band is just a poor idea.
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SPEAKER_03: I agree.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't believe he's doing it.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm stunned that he's doing it, to be honest.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: But anyway.
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SPEAKER_02: And even as we spoke,
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SPEAKER_02: met many of the guys in the band,
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so it'll be very interesting to see how the chemistry of the
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band comes together as
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SPEAKER_02: they get together.
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So as those of you who have been following our Facebook page,
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Jeff Tate is doing it.
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SPEAKER_03: Why will that be interesting?
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It's more or less just a hodgepodge of guys that have nothing
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similar in common But
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why does this guy think that'll be interesting to see how the
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chemistry comes
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SPEAKER_03: together?
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SPEAKER_03: What even makes him think the chemistry will come together?
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SPEAKER_00: He doesn't,
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SPEAKER_03: he just knows the names He even said himself,
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SPEAKER_03: these guys don't know each other They've met each other,
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SPEAKER_03: so you don't know that they can play together?
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SPEAKER_03: It just sounds bad
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SPEAKER_02: Right now he's doing some dates with Alice Cooper doing some solo shows.
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SPEAKER_02: Those are solo shows.
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SPEAKER_02: Those are not Queensryche shows.
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SPEAKER_00: And the difference is?
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SPEAKER_00: What's the difference?
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SPEAKER_00: That's my point.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the difference?
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SPEAKER_03: Well I'm going to one of these Queensryche shows by the way.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah I know you told me that was coming to Tim Rivers Tap House.
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yeah at the end of October I'm going to one and Ripper has a
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special on it where
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you can get half price tickets oh really they're going half
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price half price as
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long as you buy your dinner there oh if you come in between six
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and nine you can
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get your dinner and a half price ticket hey I'm gonna be here
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all week don't forget
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SPEAKER_00: to tip your waitresses I'm Jeff Tate of the pseudo Queensryche
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somehow I got a feeling that before it's all said and done
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you'll have special
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guest bartenders Jeff Tate and Queens right don't forget to tip
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your bartenders and
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your waitresses I'll be here all week try the veal it's great
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what a next tour will
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be forthcoming as Glenn mentions in the interview think of that
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more as a 2013 kind
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of thing so a lot to look forward to there so without further
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ado I'm going to talk
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SPEAKER_02: to Glenn Drover
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SPEAKER_00: Ouch!
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SPEAKER_00: What's up with that overdriven music?
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SPEAKER_03: Come on, that's his leading interview music, that talk to me music.
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I appreciate the fact that people are out there doing podcasts
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and whatnot,
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SPEAKER_00: but come on,
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SPEAKER_00: just deal with the levels,
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SPEAKER_00: will ya?
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Yeah,
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because it's not like you're doing it live where you can have
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all kinds of fuck-ups.
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SPEAKER_00: Right, like we do.
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SPEAKER_00: Like we do.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we fuck up all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: Especially me.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ, lately.
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SPEAKER_00: My studio's been a disaster area.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, when I get up there next week, we're going to fix some shit.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm doing great, Zach.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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right a little over a little over a year ago and then you uh
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he's like Nader he's
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in the bathroom yeah of course good good audio wow he's worse
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than Stevie Peavy
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with all the echoing Stevie Peavy rolled though did that uh the
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show with Dave
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SPEAKER_02: Martone and uh
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SPEAKER_02: I haven't heard much from you in the last year or so,
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SPEAKER_02: but in the last week or so,
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SPEAKER_02: I've heard your name a zillion places.
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SPEAKER_00: Really?
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SPEAKER_00: A zillion?
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SPEAKER_03: A zillion.
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SPEAKER_03: Not a million or a billion, but a zillion.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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In all honesty,
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when you think about music news websites,
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what are,
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say,
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the top three?
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Well,
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there would definitely be Blabbermouth,
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Brave Words,
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and maybe Loudwire.
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SPEAKER_00: Loudwire?
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SPEAKER_00: See, I wasn't even thinking that.
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SPEAKER_00: I was thinking more like Sleaze Rocks or Melodic Rock.
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SPEAKER_03: Of which I may have an announcement of me having some involvement with.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so those are the ones that I think of right off the top.
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SPEAKER_00: Brave Words, Blabbermouth, MelodicRock.com
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SPEAKER_00: Loudwire actually does better business than Blabberwell Well,
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SPEAKER_00: regardless of that,
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SPEAKER_00: I personally am not familiar with Loudwire Just check it out,
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SPEAKER_00: it's a good site I'll check it out,
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SPEAKER_00: but I would not say a trillion places Yeah,
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SPEAKER_03: well,
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SPEAKER_03: there's,
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SPEAKER_03: what,
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SPEAKER_03: five?
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SPEAKER_02: Hardly There's five To speed, you are now aligned with Jeff Tate
22:02
SPEAKER_02: and his iteration of Queensryche.
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SPEAKER_02: So can you give us a little background on how you and Jeff cross paths?
22:09
SPEAKER_01: You know, I've never met him before.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: What happened was... All right.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: I've got to get down to this.
22:19
Where is this guy speaking to where his audio is like he's
22:25
bouncing off the walls
22:26
SPEAKER_00: and then he's got a phone audio...
22:30
SPEAKER_00: from this Glenn Drover.
22:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm trying to even think about how this could be even recreated.
22:38
SPEAKER_03: Tape recorder?
22:41
SPEAKER_00: What's with the echo, though?
22:42
SPEAKER_03: Is he in the bathroom or something?
22:44
If he's got a tape recorder and it's on a desk,
22:47
maybe it's echoing off the back of the desk?
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Here's what I want to ask,
22:52
and I know you don't know the answer because we don't know what
22:55
these people are
22:56
SPEAKER_00: doing.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: Why don't these people just get Skype?
23:01
get a Skype in number and just record it because Skype has a
23:07
recording property you
23:10
just plug in a mic you hit Skype you hit record and you record
23:14
your conversation
23:16
and you're both equal level and you both sound the same or even
23:21
if they do it with
23:22
a tape recorder run the tape recorder out from your computer
23:25
into the tape recorder
23:27
SPEAKER_03: so that you get both audios and you sound clean
23:30
But this echoing and this phone stuff and it's like holding the
23:36
phone up to the
23:36
microphone and you're like in the bathroom and I don't
23:41
understand why this is so
23:43
difficult especially when there's modern technology that's
23:47
available to anybody to
23:48
SPEAKER_00: do Dude,
23:50
it's not like everybody can afford $60 You don't even have to
23:54
pay the full $60 for
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SPEAKER_00: the month or for the year
23:57
You can pay like $3.95 a month or whatever it turns out to be
24:01
Holy smokes I'm not
24:05
100% I think it could be part of some management that he has or
24:12
whatever some guy
24:15
who's also good friends with Dave Ellison from Megadeth I guess
24:20
they were talking
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SPEAKER_01: about members and stuff and my name came up Excellent
24:29
How in the world if you're going into a new band and you're
24:31
doing interviews about
24:32
it how do you go into it with the story of I have no idea in
24:36
the world how I ended
24:37
up You know somebody was talking to management and then Dave
24:40
Ellison mentioned me
24:42
and the management thought yeah this guy would work and why
24:46
don't you give him a
24:47
call and I don't know I've never even met the guy to be honest
24:52
with you I'm not
24:53
SPEAKER_00: even a Queensryche fan How about bigger issue if you're Jeff Tate
24:58
SPEAKER_03: and you're putting together your new band.
25:01
SPEAKER_03: Do you not meet them first?
25:03
SPEAKER_03: You would think.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, maybe I'm stupid here, but I want to meet these guys.
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SPEAKER_03: I want to have them in.
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SPEAKER_03: I want to audition them.
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SPEAKER_03: I want to see if they can do what I need.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, how does he fucking know?
25:19
SPEAKER_03: Because some manager guy told him that this guy could play?
25:21
SPEAKER_03: This guy could play guitar.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, he's alright with me.
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alright I'll take your word for it I'll take him he's in he's
25:30
good we don't ever
25:32
have to get together to rehearse I guess I mean seriously am I
25:37
wrong in thinking
25:38
SPEAKER_03: that that just sounds really poor
25:42
again I don't know it's bizarre to me that you go you know some
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management guy and
25:48
Dave Ellison recommended me and then he said hey he could play
25:53
and he's available
25:54
and sure why not and you know I've never that's the part that
26:00
gets me the most I've
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never met him he's in Jeff Tate's band and he's never met Jeff
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Tate how the fuck
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SPEAKER_03: does that happen
26:11
SPEAKER_03: Was there ever a time that John Levin was in Dokken before he met Don?
26:16
SPEAKER_03: No.
26:17
Was there ever a time that Sammy Hagar was in Van Halen before
26:21
he met the Van Halen guys?
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SPEAKER_00: They bring him down.
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SPEAKER_00: They auditioned them.
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SPEAKER_00: Hey, does this guy have chemistry with us?
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SPEAKER_00: Does he pull off the attitude we need or the style we need?
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SPEAKER_00: Does he fit the bill?
26:37
SPEAKER_00: Do I like the guy?
26:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: Do we get along?
26:41
SPEAKER_03: Right
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it just sounds like it's gonna be horrendous it's just like
27:09
we'll just throw this
27:10
together this guy's been in the business for a while I'm sure
27:13
he could play I'm
27:15
sure he'll figure it out whatever we'll work it out as we go
27:18
along if not I'll spit
27:20
in his fucking face Jay is his name or something I know or
27:28
something some guy I
27:30
SPEAKER_03: think his name's Jay he put me in the band
27:34
this guy I don't know he just said you know whatever and I said
27:39
okay and he just
27:41
said okay we'll throw you you know six or eight hundred bones a
27:45
week and I said
27:46
yeah fine I'm out of gig right now sure I'll take it whatever
27:51
unbelievable you know
27:58
Dave Ellison and let's give him a call and see what he thinks
28:01
about Glenn and you
28:02
SPEAKER_01: know and all that kind of stuff and
28:05
SPEAKER_01: trying to figure out if I would be a good fit or not and this and that.
28:07
And he gave me a good recommendation and then I got a call
28:12
within a few days.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, there you go.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: Have you worked with any guys in a minute?
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Where is this guy?
28:19
SPEAKER_03: Where is he?
28:22
SPEAKER_03: He's calling from his job working the subway or something.
28:26
He's in the bathroom stall with the tape recorder and his cell
28:30
phone connected.
28:32
doesn't want his boss to hear yeah listen I gotta take a
28:36
bathroom break I'll be
28:37
right back right Rudy Sarzo Bobby Blotzer Kelly Gray who was
28:43
with Queensryche for a
28:45
period of time and Randy Crane have you worked with any of
28:48
these guys in the past
28:52
SPEAKER_00: uh no as a matter of fact uh no as a matter of fact
29:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know these guys What's their names again?
29:04
SPEAKER_00: They just told me to show up
29:11
can you believe that I mean granted this isn't rock line or
29:16
something that's going
29:17
out over commercial radio but to sit there and admit that I
29:23
don't know who these
29:24
guys are I never played with them I don't know they just called
29:27
me hey you're in
29:28
SPEAKER_00: the band okay cool I'll take the gig
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Dude, you don't even have to go any further than this with this podcast.
29:34
That's all I wanted you to hear was that the guitar player
29:37
that's been picked by
29:38
SPEAKER_03: Jeff Tate has never met Jeff Tate,
29:41
SPEAKER_03: has never met any of the other guys in the band.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: Hey, you're in.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: We don't know how you play.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: We don't know how you mesh.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: We don't know if there's any chemistry, but you're in.
29:52
SPEAKER_03: Don't have any idea who actually put him in the band.
29:55
SPEAKER_03: Doesn't know for sure the guy's name that recommended him.
29:59
doesn't know his band doesn't know the leader of his band never
30:02
met any of them
30:04
yeah this project's gonna be stunningly good Kiss Freak says
30:08
this guy's hiding in
30:09
SPEAKER_00: his mom's basement probably true
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before it's gone I
30:45
think I've met Rudy Sarzo on a couple of occasions in Los
30:49
Angeles just briefly
30:51
SPEAKER_01: aside from that I don't know anybody wow
30:57
well there you go outside of that fuck I don't know anybody
31:02
can't wait to see them
31:03
live yeah are we gonna be in town that weekend well this I mean
31:08
how long ago could
31:09
this have been recorded not very right just two weeks at least
31:12
two weeks maybe
31:13
three well they're playing gigs next month yeah shit they
31:19
haven't even what are
31:20
they gonna do two rehearsals and do it how many rehearsals can
31:26
they possibly get
31:27
SPEAKER_00: right
31:30
horrendous I don't know I'm just gonna show up see what happens
31:35
what the fuck I'm
31:36
not doing anything anyway we're gonna have our chance to talk
31:40
to Jeff by the way
31:43
since Dave kicked me out of the band and Dave came back and you
31:47
know whatever I've
31:48
been you know I've been just struggling to make it I'll take
31:53
the five six hundred
31:54
SPEAKER_00: bucks he's willing to pay me a week to show up why not why not
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Well,
32:01
SPEAKER_00: I look at the lineup myself,
32:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean,
32:02
SPEAKER_02: other than,
32:03
SPEAKER_02: of course,
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Kelly,
32:04
SPEAKER_02: who has known Jeff,
32:05
SPEAKER_02: I think,
32:06
SPEAKER_02: forever,
32:06
SPEAKER_02: it seems.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: Your style, to me, seems to be the most conducive.
32:10
I mean,
32:11
Rudy does have the ability,
32:12
I think,
32:13
to be almost like a chameleon.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: He's got his Animetal Project and Different Tread,
32:19
SPEAKER_02: I believe,
32:19
SPEAKER_02: is the other band he's playing with right now.
32:21
SPEAKER_02: So he seems to be a pretty malleable to any situation.
32:25
But Bobby Blotzer,
32:26
you know,
32:26
kind of a different style of music he came from as well,
32:29
so...
32:30
do you guys know yeah but you know the guy is a really good
32:34
drummer for those that
32:36
don't know really I never knew that I never thought geez you
32:40
know you know who
32:42
would be really good on this project would be Bobby Blotzer
32:45
that would be the first
32:46
one to come to mind okay if you and obviously we can't do it
32:51
now because we're
32:51
SPEAKER_03: already talking about Blotzer but
32:53
if somebody came up to you on Thursday of this week when you're
32:57
not thinking about
32:58
SPEAKER_03: it and said,
32:58
SPEAKER_03: hey,
32:58
SPEAKER_03: name me the top 10 drummers in the kind of music you listen to.
33:03
SPEAKER_03: Would Bobby Blatzer ever be in that top 10?
33:05
SPEAKER_03: No.
33:07
SPEAKER_03: No chance.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: No way.
33:10
SPEAKER_03: There's no chance he would be in the top 10.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Maybe even the top 20.
33:14
Outside of the fact that he's been in Rat since the inception
33:20
or early on.
33:23
what has Bobby Blotzer done you know aside from the Saints and
33:27
Sinners thing dude
33:29
obviously contraband okay nothing nothing nothing he's not like
33:38
one of the most
33:39
SPEAKER_00: notable drummers out there he he doesn't I mean again I'm I
33:46
SPEAKER_00: Bobby has played with Rat, but is he an outstanding drummer?
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Is he a Tommy Lee?
33:52
SPEAKER_00: Is he outside of the classic metal?
33:56
SPEAKER_00: Is he a Phil Collins?
33:59
SPEAKER_03: See, you're stretching into good players.
34:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying he's not a Mick Brown.
34:05
SPEAKER_03: He's not a whoever the drummer was from Love Hate.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: He's not a Simon Wright.
34:12
SPEAKER_03: Right.
34:13
he's not even no one considers him even in that category right
34:19
nobody does he's
34:20
he's lower tier and that's not even slapping him I like rat but
34:25
rat I mean look
34:26
anybody could play drums and rat that's my that's my point
34:29
though it's it he is not
34:31
a standout drummer to where oh man we got you know it's not
34:35
like we got Bobby
34:36
SPEAKER_00: Rondinelli
34:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
34:40
SPEAKER_03: It's Bobby Blotzer.
34:41
It's just like,
34:42
okay,
34:44
I don't know that I would even recognize anything that Bobby
34:47
has done.
34:49
SPEAKER_03: If you heard only rat drum tracks, would you recognize him?
34:52
SPEAKER_03: No, of course not.
34:55
SPEAKER_03: Just sound like somebody beating drums.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: Right.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: That's my point.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing stylistically that sets him apart from anybody.
35:03
SPEAKER_03: That's exactly it.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:06
the way these guys keep saying bobby's such a good drummer who
35:09
says that who said
35:10
yeah who's who's ever said that no so i'm sure he's going to be
35:16
able to play this
35:17
stuff no problem he's very very good drummer what most people
35:20
know him for is more
35:21
SPEAKER_01: basic uh hard rock which is what rat do um but he's a very i've seen him
35:28
SPEAKER_01: in a couple of live situations and he's no slows, man.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: He's a good drummer.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, he stated it right there.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Most people know him as a basic hard rock drummer.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: Basic.
35:41
SPEAKER_03: What was the band that he wanted us to play when we interviewed him last?
35:45
SPEAKER_03: Emerson Lake and Palmer.
35:47
SPEAKER_03: King Crimson or something.
35:48
SPEAKER_03: No, Emerson Lake and Palmer.
35:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, something horrible.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: We played like 10 seconds of it and turned it right off.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:55
SPEAKER_03: That's cool
36:28
just ridiculous unbelievable so this guy from Steel City
36:35
Podcast yeah got this guy
36:37
on the show and said hey you're in the new Queensryche what's
36:41
that like I said I am
36:43
what's that like exactly you're in what what is that like what
36:49
what's it like
36:49
playing with Jeff Tate yeah ooh what oh I just got the gig last
36:55
week dude I don't
36:56
SPEAKER_00: know I don't know any of these people
36:58
It's just a gig That's about what it said,
37:01
it's just a gig How did you get in?
37:04
SPEAKER_00: Well,
37:04
SPEAKER_00: you know,
37:05
I know this guy and David Elvison said I was cool and then this
37:12
manager guy I think
37:14
SPEAKER_00: he did it Yeah,
37:15
SPEAKER_00: like call him up and I don't know,
37:18
SPEAKER_00: dude It's just like they said just show up,
37:21
SPEAKER_00: okay?
37:24
all I know is the first gigs October whatever and I'll be there
37:27
yeah I don't know
37:29
they they sent me over some songs and you know I'm learning
37:32
them and you know what
37:34
do you want from me so bad but I guess I gotta I gotta admit I
37:43
got to admire his
37:45
SPEAKER_00: his candid
37:46
you know his candid answers he could have lied he could have
37:50
said you know me and
37:53
Jeff have been friends for years and I've been a fan of
37:57
Queensryche and he could
37:59
have said all that but he was just like nah I never met Jeff I
38:02
don't know anything
38:03
about it don't know any of these players never played that
38:06
music never heard of him
38:09
SPEAKER_00: Bobby's a good drummer I'm sure he could pull it off
38:14
that makes you want to go spend money too doesn't it when guys
38:17
in the band are
38:18
saying yeah I'm sure they can pull it off I'm sure he can pull
38:22
it off well good
38:25
SPEAKER_03: that makes me want to go throw 35 bucks down to see it
38:29
so you're gonna go see the Jeff Tate lineup at Tim Ripper's Tap
38:34
House in Akron I am
38:38
October 28th I think or the 26th it's one of those two days
38:41
either the Friday or
38:43
the Sunday wow I'm there I'm all about it that's funny he's
38:47
playing the Tap House
38:49
yeah it's gonna be great they were playing the House of Blues
38:52
which you know is
38:53
SPEAKER_00: about a thousand seats to play in the Tap House about a hundred seats
39:01
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna bring my little my little that
39:04
little iPhone tape
39:05
recorder thing and then you said that there's a discount if you
39:09
buy dinner yeah if
39:10
you come at six o'clock between six and nine o'clock and have
39:13
dinner I just saw
39:14
this today on their Facebook you have dinner well you know
39:18
we'll let you have half
39:20
price tickets half price tickets if you buy dinner there how
39:23
bad has that got to be
39:25
SPEAKER_00: to sell out a hundred seats at half price and you got to give dinner away
39:30
Right I guess you gotta pay for dinner but oh boy Wow Thunder
39:35
Bruce maybe Chris can
39:36
introduce Glenn Drover to Jeff Nice Hey Jeff this is your
39:43
guitarist over here this
39:44
is Glenn You know this guy How you doing come on over here and
39:50
have a glass of
39:51
SPEAKER_03: insanity and let's speak Right
39:54
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
39:57
Alright,
39:57
well,
39:57
since we're talking about Queensryche,
40:01
let's jump into some tunage here.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Let's play something from the Warning release.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: Let's play No Sanctuary.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: Alright, sounds good.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: So, we'll be back.
40:11
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