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Mega Edition: Who Is Haley Robson? (5/1/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Today we're going to talk about one of the more
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tragic figures in this whole entire Epstein escapade, and that
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person is Hailey Robson. Now, Hailey Robson was just a
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little girl herself when she was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's
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orbit and abused and then in turn became one of
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Jeffrey Epstein's recruiters. And we're not talking about a recruiter
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who was, you know, going to bars to find girls
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or going to you know, the local pub, all right,
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We're talking about a high school girl who was recruiting
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other high school girls. We're talking freshmen here, folks. All right.
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So Hailey Robson is one of the more tragic stories.
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And when this all first started to come out in Florida,
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when it was first breaking, Hailey Robson was actually investigated
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by the police for her role. And we know that
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the Palm Beach Police Department did a really good job
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down there. They did a very thorough job. They investigated everything,
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and it was them who initiated the federal investigation. It
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wasn't the state attorneys. So when we talk about Hailey Robson,
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she was investigated by the Palm Beach Police Department, and
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it was determined that she wasn't going to face charges
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for this. She was abused herself. She was just a
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little girl, and she wasn't like some of these other
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people who have come out and said, oh, I was
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a victim of Jeffrey Epstein too, but meanwhile stayed in
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there in Epstein's orbit, even after he was arrested, stayed
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loyal to Epstein. We don't see that with Hailey Robson.
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And now she has come forward several times to tell
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her story, and in the new book The Spider, she
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is telling her story once again and more context to
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that story, I should say, And we have an excerpt
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from that here from Okay magazine and Chris Spargo. So
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let's jump into this article and see what Hailey Robson
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has to say in the book The Spider headline Jeffrey
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Epstein recruiter was raped before a pedophile paid the team
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to lure in girls. This article was authored by Chris Spargo.
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So again, Hailey Robson, in my opinion, is one of
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the most tragic figures in this whole entire thing. And
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I think that it is just downright horrible what this
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girl has went through and what she has to live with, right,
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bringing these other girls in, And when you're a kid,
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you don't really understand the stakes, you don't understand the consequences.
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So with Hailey Robson being just a young girl herself
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and the lore of that money. Look, man, if you
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have never been broke, if you have never been poor,
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you don't know what lengthy would go to to make
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a couple of bucks, especially as a kid, and especially
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when you have people like Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell
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normalizing this shit. So when we talk about Hailey Robson,
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it always I always just shake my head, and I
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really really have a lot of empathy for this girl.
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Hailey Robson was just a teenager when she first met Epstein.
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She arrived at his home to give the pedophile a
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massage after being told it was easy money by other girls.
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That's important to other girls. We need to establish who
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all of these girls are. When I say we, I
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mean the prosecution, right, I have nothing to do with that,
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We have nothing to do with that, But the prosecution
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needs to establish who all these other girls were. All
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these girls from Palm Beach are a huge part of
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this story. That is not being discussed as if what
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happened in Palm Beach is over and done with. That
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is not the case. We know that the Eleventh Circuit
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Court of Appeals is convening and hearing the arguments about
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what occurred in Florida, and if they overturn that non
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prosecution agreement, it is going to send shock waves through
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this case. All of those girls who were abused in
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Palm Beach, and remember only one of them got to
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speak in front of the Grand Jerry. But all of
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those girls who were abused, We're talking dozens and dozens
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of girls. Epstein only got nailed for that one charge,
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that one count of solicitation. But yet we know that
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there were tons of girls. We know that Hailey Robson
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and other girls it was the pyramid scheme, right, And
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all of these other girls that were around before Hailey Robson,
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who were they? You see, it just gets murkier and murkier,
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and we get more questions as we hunt for answers.
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What happened next was a series of events that almost
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landed Robson in jail. He aspirated the pain she was
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already dealing with after being raped that same year, and
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you see it again here with Hailey Robson, right, Jeffrey
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Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell. They had a pension for finding
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girls who were broken in some regard. Either they had
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a rough upbringing, they might have been raped like Haley,
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they had drug problems, whatever it may be. They searched
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those girls out and when they found them, they provided
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that air of stability, right of false stability. Oh yeah,
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you're with us now, we're gonna take care of you.
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And then they normalized all of this abuse. They normalized
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this lifestyle. I was a teenager when I met Jeffrey
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and became one of his victims. But that's not how
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the police and the media painted me. They viewed me
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as guilty because I recruited other girls for Jeffrey, recalls
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Robson and author Barry Levins the spider inside the criminal
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web of Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell. Look it is
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I can understand why at first, when all this was
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coming out, the media would have been going a bit
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crazy about it. Right, nobody knew the details. Still to
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this day were still trying to hammer out the details.
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But with Hailey Robson, you know, you start hearing about
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a girl who procured other girls, and right away you're like,
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holy shit, what kind of psycho is this? And then,
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of course, once you add the context, you understand that
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Haley was just an abused girl herself. So the mental
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anguish that she deals with on a daily basis, I
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can't even imagine. Honestly, what the media doesn't know, and
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what I've never revealed until this writing is how emotionally
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broken I was before I arrived at Jeffrey's mansion in
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Palm Beach. I had been raped. I never pressed charges
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or told my friends. I buried myself in drugs and
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alcohol to cope with my pain. And how many times
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do you see that in abuse victims or any person
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who is surviving trauma. A lot of times the only
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escape you can find is with alcohol or drugs, and
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we all know that that just compounds your problem. Right,
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But when you're in that mind state, when your mind
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is racing and everything is tumultuous, it's easy to pick
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up a drug habit, it's easy to grab some alcohol,
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And when you're in that altered state of mind, you
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don't have the you know, the sense, I guess you
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would say to stop yourself from doing that, and you
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see it so often with people who are suffering from
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PTSD and other sorts of trauma, and it's just it really,
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it's so sad to see the lifelong effects that Jeffrey
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Epstein and his conduct has had on these girls. And
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it's just it really makes me mad that nobody, nobody
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stepped up for all of these years and said, hey,
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you sig bastard, You're not gonna do this anymore. Instead,
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people helped them, people enabled him, people still did business
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with him. Epstein had an entire team of women responsible
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for scheduling the two to three girls who would provide
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him with massages each day at his home. Remember that
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now two to three girls per day, okay, twenty one
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girls a week, all high school girls from these different
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high schools. How many girls are there? How many unnamed
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girls are there? These women have since been identified as
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the core four Gilain Maxwell, Nadiel Marsenkova, Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross,
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and Leslie Groff, but the first and only recruiter to
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be named in incident reports and probable cause affid davids
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filed by members of the Palm Beach Police Department during
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their two thousand and five investigation was Robson, the Florida
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high school student had actually been recruited to give Epstein
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a massage at first. So all of the co conspirators,
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all of the core for they were sliding under the radar,
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right like usual, operating in the shadows. And the only
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person that was named as a recruiter was this young girl,
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Hailey Robson. I'm sure that Epstein and his attorneys didn't
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have that set up either, right, I'm sure mister I
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kept my underpans. Dershowitz wasn't looking for a fall guy
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or fall lady in this regard. I met Jeffrey through
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a classmate who approached me at a resort on Singer
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Island called the Canopy. My friend said there was an older,
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wealthier guy in Palm Beach Island who pays girls two
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hundred dollars to massage him. My first reaction was, yeah, sure,
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I'm definitely interested. Give me your number and we can
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set something up, says Robson in The Spider, which is
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on bookshelves now. So I'd like to know who this
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classmate is. Right again, there's all these anonymous people, and
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the only way we're going to be able to track
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this stuff down and fill in the blanks. Is if
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we know all of these people who were involved, and
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I'm sure that the prosecutors are looking into that, you
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would think, right, I'm sure that they're trying to piece
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this all together and build a profile. And I would
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hope that they're going to talk to Haley Robson and
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try and see if she has anything to add as
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far as context about who was the one who recruited her,
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And just work your way all the way up the
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chain until you get to the big fish. That's how
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these large, expansive reco investigations work. During the car ride,
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my friend said, the more you do, the more you're
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going to make. I thought it would just be me
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and my underwear. I didn't think he would try to
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fondle me or touch me. I was wrong, of course, Again,
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who is this friend? You know? During the car ride,
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my friend said, the more you do, the more you're
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going to make. I would chase all of these people down.
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If I was the investigators, I would use every resource
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at my disposal to build this whole entire picture and
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recreate exactly what happened at Epstein might try and harm her,
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but then Epstein worked out a deal between the two.
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Epstein informed Robson that she would be paid two hundred
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dollars for every girl she brought in, and offer the
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student could not refuse. And I know, again a lot
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of us say to ourselves two hundred bucks, what's really
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But if you have never been broke, if you have
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never lived in poverty, if you have never lived you know,
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hand to mouth, check to check, you don't understand. And
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I'm not trying to be a dick when I say that,
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but we all have our own life experiences and you don't.
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If you come from money, then you don't understand what
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it's like coming from nothing, just as much as somebody
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who's coming from nothing doesn't understand what it's like to
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be you. And it's easy to talk shit, it's easy
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to have an opinion, but until you walk in the
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shoes of somebody who has had nothing, who has come
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from nothing, you know you really shouldn't pipe off. To
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be honest with you, I probably should have moved on
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with my life and put the whole thing behind me
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as a bizarre experience. Instead, I made another mistake and
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excuse me and agreed to recruit other girls for him,
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writes Robson, So there was the crucial moment in her life. Right.
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We all have those moments in our life where we
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probably should have went left, but we went right. And
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for Robson, unfortunately, this is probably that pinnacle moment for her,
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and it's something that's probably going to haunt her the
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rest of her life. It's probably going to weigh on
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her the rest of her life. And I just I
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hope that at some point that she can find some
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sort of peace and maybe that piece is coming forward
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and testifying against Gilain Maxwell and the Core for and
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the rest of the people who were involved. And to
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be honest with you, I wouldn't be shocked to see
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that Jeffrey said I like the younger the better. I
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thought he meant younger looking girls, not younger girls. The
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first girls I recruited were my friends. I knew he'd
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liked them because they were built like me athletic. I
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drove the girls to Jeffrey's house and I hung out
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in the kitchen or by the pool and wait for
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them to finish the massage. I returned to Jeffrey's house
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some twenty four times. Yikes, this is just crazy twenty
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four times. Imagine just as the one girl alone, just
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Hayley Robson alone, imagine how many other girls were brought
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into this pyramid scheme. Sage is the youngest girl I
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brought to Jeffrey. This is brutal reading this. She was fourteen,
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but at the time I thought she was a year
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or two older than me because she was dating my
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cousin and her body was more mature than mine. Yikes, man,
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this is just I don't I honestly don't even know
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what to say. It's just such a whole tragic ass
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situation all the way around, right, whatever happened to Sage?
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We've never heard anything from Sage, have we? This poor
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girl fourteen years old? I just I don't even understand.
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I don't even understand how this occurred, how it was
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able to occur on the scale that it occurred without
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anybody in Florida stepping up to the plate and stopping
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this shit. Sage was fourteen at the time, while Haley
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was eighteen. The parents of Sage learned what happen, however,
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after a fight at school and soon after contacted police,
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thus launching the criminal investigation. With parental consent. Sage then
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contacted Robson as police recorded the call. So this is
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how it works, right, This is what the police are
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supposed to do. Somebody comes in, they bring in information,
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They use that person as a go between so they
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can record the conversation and get the other person who
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was being accused of the crime to incriminate themselves. And
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that's how these investigations work. Starting at the bottom, work
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your way up, and eventually you're at the Kingfish. During
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a sworn taped interview, Sage stated that Hailey Robson, a
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cousin of Sg's boyfriend and classmate at Royal Palm Beach
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High School, worked for a wealthy man and did sexual
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favors for him. Reads a probable Cause affidavid obtained by Okay,
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She also admitted that Robson had offered her an opportunity
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to make money during the beginning of the month of February.
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Sage explained that she was first approached by Robson to
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go with her to Epstein's house. Such just a sad
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state of affairs. A sad state of affairs, and the
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fact that this was able to occur for so long,
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it's just mind blowing. To me. I don't mean to
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keep going back to that, but it's just it's absolutely
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mind blowing to me. I don't understand. I truly don't
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get it. How as a state prosecutor did you let
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this occur? Robson eventually provided police with the name and
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address of each girl she brought to Epstein. Interviews from
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that time suggest that she truly believed she was helping
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them by setting up these appointments with Epstein. Now remember
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she's eighteen. We're not talking about Delaine Maxwell, Oxford, trained
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very intelligent, or any of the other corps for that matter.
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Hailey Robson wasn't that kind of girl. She wasn't from
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a rich community. She was an abused girl who was
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groomed by Jeffrey Epstein at a young age to become
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one of his recruiters, and this behavior was normalized to her.
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Robson stated, every girl she brought knew what to expect.
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When they arrived. They were told they would provide a massage,
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possibly naked, and allow some touching. Stated in an affid
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David from Palm Beach Police. I asked her if Sage
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was aware. She stated, every girl she brought knew what
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to expect. She explained she knew what Sage, that Sage
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wanted to make money. She approached Sage and explained about
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going to work for jeff sg agreed, and arrangements were
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made to bring her to Epstein's house on a weekend.
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So this was all set up. Hailey Robson was the
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go between at eighteen years old. By you know, Jeffrey
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Epstein had his claws into her, and it was her
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job to bring these younger girls over to the house
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for a quote unquote air quote massage while she waited
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in the living room or in the kitchen or whatever.
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And these girls were being abused by Jeffrey Epstein. Robson
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then had nothing left to do but wait and see
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if her story, add the fact that she had been
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a victim, would help her avoid serving time in prison.
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The hardest part of the entire investigation for me was
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seeing my father's grief. He had been a police officer.
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When my lawyers said there was a possibility that I
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could be listed as a sex offender, how they'd been
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charged and convicted, writes Robson, my dad, who was a
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very private man, broke down in tears. It was the
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only time I ever saw him cry. I have always,
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and I can't stress this enough, spoke my truth and
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have been willing to help law enforcement in this case.
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So I think that's where she differentiates from these others,
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right the core four they haven't come forward to help.
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They haven't said one single word. Have they went on
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record with any lawyers, or have any authors or anything.
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Hell no, whereas Hailey Robson understands that she was wrong,
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she has empathy for what she did. And I think
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that the police who investigated the first time around probably
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made the right call by not charging her. I think
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that if anyone was going to be charged in this case,
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it would have to be the core For Epstein and Maxwell.
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There is no way in hell that the Robson should
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have been charged and they get off the hook, right,
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zero chance, in my opinion, that should have occurred. Now,
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it's one of those tragic ass stories in this case,
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in a case that is littered with tragic stories, this
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is one of the most tragic. In my opinion, this
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Hailey Robsons sor how many young girls from high schools
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were brought to Jeffrey Epstein, how many lives were ruined
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and how long did the authorities look the other way.
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the links that go at this episode can be found
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in the description box. So the article is from the
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Daily Mail and the headline is woman admits she was
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a schoolgirl pimp who procured twenty four friends as young
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as fourteen for pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and was paid
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two hundred dollars for each victim. Well, it's nice to
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see that they called them a pedophile in the headline
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at least, right, you know, a snake is a snake,
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a goat is a goat. Jeffrey Epstein's a pedophile. This
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article was authored by Caroline Graham. A woman has admitted
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procuring two dozen schoolgirl friends, some as young as fourteen,
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for pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and being paid two hundred
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dollars for each of the victims. Now, the person we're
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talking about in this article is Hailey Robson, and we
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have to remember that she was only sixteen when she
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was first recruited as well. Right, So, as much as
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I'd like to go scorched earth on her, I think
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we have to keep that in mind and understand the
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psychology behind all of this. Again, I'm certainly not a psychologist,
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and I'm not qualified to even begin to try and
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look at it from that perspective clinically, But there is
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zero doubt that she was groomed and that Jeffrey Epstein
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used his narcissistic charm to get her to do what
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he wanted her to do. In a harrowing interview for
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a new Netflix documentary series Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich, which
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premieres on Wednesday, Tearful, Hailey Robson is the first of
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Epstein's so called recruiters to admit introducing children into his
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twisted sexual pyramid scheme for money. Now, for those of
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us who have been following the case for quite some time,
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this does not come as a shock to us. We
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know who Hailey Robson is, we know what her role
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has been, and we've had time to digest it. Right.
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But people who are going to watch this documentary for
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the first time on Wednesday, and I know several of them.
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It's going to come as a shock to them to
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see some of these things that were going on in
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the Jeffrey Epstein case, especially the first time around, and
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it's going to be a shock for them to see
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that people actually knew that this was occurring and it
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was still able to happen. Now, hopefully, what this documentary
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does is it spurs people to be more interested in
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the case and to search out the deeper facts, and
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that is what I hope the only thing that I'm
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hoping for for this documentary. You know, I go into
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these kind of things and I'm very skeptical until I
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watch them, because a lot of times they turn into
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hit pieces or they turn into the documentaries that veer
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off into la la land et cetera, et cetera. So
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obviously I have not seen this documentary yet. I don't
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know if that's what's going to occur here, but I'm
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very interested to see how they present things for the
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unsullied and the unsullied if you're not aware. For me,
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that's what I call people who are not locked into
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this case. I call them the unsullied because they don't
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know all of the nuances and all of the deep,
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deep rabbit hole type situations we've been dealing with in
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this case. So I'm sure a lot of them, the unsullied,
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are going to watch this Netflix documentary and their interest
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is going to be sparked, and they're going to search
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out other content and they're going to search out more
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information and hopefully they find themselves here at the Jeffrey
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Epstein Podcast, the Jeffrey Epstein Show that way that they
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can go a little bit deeper than just the surface. Right.
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But when people hear from Haley Robson for this first
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time around, and they see her on screen and they
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realize that she was, you know, bringing girls fourteen years
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old to Jeffrey Epstein, what it's going to do is
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bug their eyes right out of their head because a
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lot of people don't even understand that this is going on.
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And when I say a lot of people, folks, that
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was even me. Until I started researching this case, I
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had no idea how big of a problem all of
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this was. So that's my hope for the Netflix documentary.
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My hope is that it spurs interest, and due to
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that interest, there is even more public outcry for tangible
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action to be taken miss Robson. Miss Robson, who was
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sixteen when she began working for Epstein, says she was
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racked with guilt for years until she realized that she
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was also a victim. Look, this is the thing with her, right,
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It's just like with Nadia marson Cova. It's one of
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those slippery slopes. You want her to face justice for
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what she did. But if she was a child herself
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and she was being abused, well, I am certainly not
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qualified to go down that road and go into all
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of the nuances of what would make her completely culpable
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in a situation like that. So all I have to
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work on is my opinion and what my gut tells me.
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And what my gut tolls with somebody like Hailey Robson
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is that when she was committing these crimes of procuring
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these young girls, she was only sixteen herself. So how
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do you punish somebody like that? What is the proper
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punishment for somebody like that? Again, I don't feel like
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I'm qualified to even begin to try and find find
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a proper resolution for a situation like that. I don't
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have the answers there, folks. I'm sorry. I mean my
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opinion is that anybody who was involved to any degree
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has to face some sort of justice unless they come
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forward and they tell everything that they know about the case.
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Then if you're a cooperating witness, then that's the only
25:44
way I think you should get any leniency. But when
25:47
it comes to people like Hailey Robson who was sixteen
25:50
when this started and it occurred, and Marsenkova, I'm on
25:55
the fence there, folks. You know I've wanted to detail
25:58
about marson Kova previous on the podcast how I feel
26:01
about that and how I feel she still needs to
26:04
be punished, But half of the punishment that Kellen, Vickers
26:09
and Groff, etc. Get because remember, marson Kova, if the
26:14
stories are to be believed, was sold to Jeffrey Epstein.
26:17
So she was just a little kid when she came
26:19
over here. And Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. And
26:23
when you're put in a situation with a narcissist like
26:26
Jeffrey Epstein and you're being gas lit on a regular basis, well,
26:30
upside is going to be down, and down is going
26:33
to be up. It's gonna be you know, your life
26:35
is gonna be chaotic. So I can't hold marson Kova
26:39
to the same level of responsibility that I hold Kellen
26:43
Vickers to, although if Marsonkova does not cooperate then my
26:49
opinion might change. Then my opinion might be that she
26:52
deserves the full the full weight of whatever the sentence is,
26:57
because she's had a chance here to redeem herself. She's
27:00
had a chance to come forward and offer some help
27:02
to the prosecutors, and she has not done that, whereas
27:07
Halle Robson here has been very open about her role
27:12
within the organization. So I think that Goes is a
27:17
notch in her favor. Right, you have to give her
27:19
a check mark in her favor for coming forward and
27:22
speaking on this, because we know that there are a
27:25
lot of people that will not even do that. She
27:31
was introduced to Epstein in two thousand and three by
27:34
a friend at Royal Palm Beach High School in Florida,
27:36
who said she can make money giving an old guy massages.
27:40
But when she went to Epstein's twenty five million dollar
27:43
mansion in Palm Beach, he tried to molest her in
27:45
one of the bedrooms. Ms Robson thirty three says he
27:49
was naked on the table I remember feeling really scared.
27:53
He tried to touch me below the belt. I declined,
27:56
I told him I didn't feel comfortable, and no, it's
27:59
not going to happen. So we see here that Jeffrey
28:06
Epstein attempts to molest Haley Robson, and she's not about it, right,
28:11
She's not down with that part of the scam, with
28:14
that part of the scheme, and she tells Jeffrey Epstein
28:18
that it's not going to happen. Do not, you know,
28:21
try that again, don't touch me. But as you'll see,
28:26
Jeffrey Epstein decided that even though she wouldn't be somebody
28:32
that he per se was molesting, he could use her
28:36
to bring other girls within his atmosphere. And he was
28:39
such a predator that he recognized that right away. At
28:44
that moment, he was like, Okay, well this isn't going
28:47
to happen. So if you have any friends and you
28:49
bring them to me, I will give you two hundred dollars.
28:52
Imagine that's the price Epstein put on these little girl's
28:56
innocence folks, two hundred Measley dollars to you and me
29:00
two hundred bucks. It's it's a joke, almost right, But
29:04
when you're a poor kid and you're coming from an
29:07
impoverished family, and you might be coming from a broken home,
29:11
your parents aren't around, your mom has to work two
29:14
jobs to support you and your brothers and sisters, et cetera,
29:17
et cetera. Some one offers you two hundred bucks to
29:20
give them a massage. That's like the lottery. That's like
29:23
you hit the lottery, because two hundred dollars is life
29:26
changing to somebody who's broke. And that is the amount
29:32
that this sick, disgusting, twisted bastard put on these young girls, innocents,
29:38
two hundred measly dollars, folks. I would recruit, recruit girls
29:44
who were friends. I would casually bring it up and
29:47
we would drive together to his house. I would take
29:49
I would take them to his room, and then I'd
29:51
walk out. Sometimes I would wait by the pool. And
29:55
you know, reading this, it really sickens me, right, Robson,
30:00
she was an adult when this was happening, and she
30:02
wasn't a victim herself. I'd want her thrown into a volcano,
30:05
alive volcano as punishment. But I have to try and
30:09
temper that anger, and I have to look at all
30:12
of the facts, like always here on the Jeffrey Epstein Show,
30:15
and look at everything into in context and not let
30:19
my anger overrun my good sense, because I did. If
30:24
we did that, then we'd be you know, we'd be
30:27
maniacs when it came to this case. Right, we have
30:29
to keep everything into perspective, and we have to understand
30:33
that Robson, while what she did was abhorrent and gross
30:37
and unforgivable, we have to understand that she was a
30:41
miner who has abused herself. Right, and the true anger
30:45
in our ire should be directed at Jeffrey Epstein, Gilaine Maxwell,
30:50
the core for the legacy media, and anybody within the
30:54
federal government or intelligence agencies that protected these people. That's
30:59
where our anger should be directed. And it should be
31:02
the anger that is hotter than a thousand burning suns.
31:09
When the girls would leave, Jeffrey would come out and
31:11
pay me. I probably recruited twenty four girls. Those girls
31:15
brought other girls too. They were all underage, she says.
31:20
The youngest was fourteen. In Florida, the legal age of
31:23
consent is eighteen, So think about that for a minute.
31:26
She recruited twenty four girls, and then those girls brought
31:30
other girls too, So it was definitely a made off
31:35
kind of pyramid scheme he was running. We've talked about
31:37
that several times here on the podcast, and it was
31:40
almost a cult. Like with Jeffrey Epstein. He would have
31:46
all of these girls. Right, Robson was responsible for twenty
31:50
four girls herself. Now, how many of those twenty four girls?
31:54
How many girls did they recruit each? Talk about exponential
31:59
growth rates, right, these are the kind of numbers that
32:01
would make doctor Fauci blush. Ms. Robson says she was
32:06
destroyed by guilt every day for years until she realized
32:09
she was also a victim. I was sixteen. He was
32:13
the adult. He shouldn't have asked me to do those things.
32:16
She's one hundred percent right about that. Sixteen years old.
32:19
I get it. You know you're a little bit older.
32:21
You know you're learning some things in life, but you're
32:24
certainly not capable of dealing with a narcissist like Jeffrey
32:27
Epstein and avoiding the web that he weaves. We're asking
32:32
a lot from this young girl. We're asking a whole
32:35
lot from this young girl, folks, all right, and again,
32:37
I'm not absolving her of her responsibility for what she did.
32:41
You know, I'm not in that business. I'm not a priest.
32:44
I'm not here to absolve anybody of anything. But what
32:47
I am here to do is to read in between
32:50
the lines. Like usual, and my anger is squarely focused
32:57
on Jeffrey Epstein, Gilaine Maxwell and the rest. Robson is
33:02
somebody who probably I mean obviously I don't know her.
33:06
I've never met her or talked to her or anything
33:08
like that, but she's probably somebody who's dealing with her
33:11
own issues because of this whole entire situation. And I
33:15
would hope that she would reach out to the authorities,
33:19
come forward, sit down with them, go under oath, and
33:22
let them know everything that she knows, even if she's
33:26
talked to the authorities before, like in Palm Beach, I'm
33:28
talking about sitting down with the federal prosecutors going through
33:31
it all again. And if she needs to be helped,
33:35
if she needs to get some sort of trauma help
33:38
or PTSD help, I believe that that should be provided
33:41
to her. You know, she was a kid when she
33:44
was abused, and you know, as human beings, I think
33:49
that we have to do our best to be compassionate
33:52
in situations like this. Right again, it's a very slippery
33:56
slope they're gripping. Four part Netflix series tell how Epstein,
34:00
who killed himself in jail last summer after being arrested
34:03
on child sex charges, set up a sophisticated web of
34:07
recruiters using girls to lure their friends from at least
34:10
four high schools near his home. Epstein prayed on girls
34:13
from difficult backgrounds, and again, I've pointed this out several times,
34:19
and I just it's been a dead end for me.
34:22
I haven't been able to chase any leads down that
34:25
have been a concrete, that have been something that has
34:30
been worthwhile even And that is that angle is if
34:34
Jeffrey Epstein was doing this in New York and he
34:37
was doing it in Palm Beach, chances are he was
34:40
doing it in New Mexico as well. And New Mexico
34:45
has a very big problem with Indigenous girls going missing,
34:49
and Albuquerque in general has a lot of really poor areas,
34:54
so I think it would be a fertile hunting ground
34:58
for Jeffrey Epstein and his associate. Although I cannot find
35:02
anything saying that that occurred in Santa Fe, I mean
35:06
in Albuquerque, as well. But my gut tells me it did. Obviously,
35:10
I have no evidence to prove that. But it's the
35:14
same blueprint he's used elsewhere. What would make us think
35:18
that he is not going to use the same blueprint
35:21
in the borders of New Mexico, especially how politically juiced
35:26
he was there. Psychologists Catherine Stamlis described Epstein's recruitment system
35:34
as a sexual pyramid scheme, saying he was a brilliant,
35:38
narcissistic billionaire. I don't believe he was not brilliant. Sorry,
35:41
he was narcissistic, no doubt about it, but he was
35:44
not brilliant. Adolescents could not cope with that. No, the narcissism,
35:48
they could not cope with. And I wouldn't say brilliant
35:51
because he's not brilliant. He was devious and he was manipulative,
35:54
but he was not brilliant, all right, not in the least.
36:00
The show's director, Lisa Bryant, who spent twenty months making
36:03
Filthy Rich, used a secret computer server and kept all
36:06
footage under lock and key for fear of retribution from
36:10
the billionaire pedophile. The program claims he kept surveillance taps
36:14
from all his homes to blackmail the rich and powerful. Well,
36:18
we've known that from the beginning, folks, right, we've known that,
36:21
and we know that it's a fact. We know it's
36:24
not speculation at this point. But again, what the documentary
36:28
is going to do is it's going to show that
36:33
to people who might not have known, people who might
36:35
not have searched out the content previously. And again, the
36:39
more outrage that we can we can get in this case,
36:44
the better because without the outrage, there's going to be
36:47
no movement. And we all know that people like Berman
36:52
and the attorney generals and district attorneys, it's their public
36:56
image is very important to them. So as long as
36:59
we keep getting the outcry to get to these levels
37:03
where we see it at right now from the public
37:05
who has had enough of seeing these young ladies get
37:08
screwed over by not only Jeffrey Epstein but by the government, well,
37:12
the better chance we have for justice taking place in
37:16
this case. Ms. Bryan said, we started working on this
37:20
before Epstein was arrested. He proved time and again that
37:24
power and money helped him evade justice. We knew we
37:28
couldn't be too careful. She's right about that, you know,
37:31
Jeffrey Epstein's that he was that kind of guy and
37:33
his associates are those kind of people you do not
37:36
know who you're dealing with until you're dealing with them,
37:39
and for some people, that's a very scary situation. Right
37:43
There are some people that will not talk about things
37:45
like this because they are very scared of retribution. There
37:49
are people that don't want to take the chance of
37:52
having to deal with the blowback, and I get it.
37:55
Not everybody's willing to be on the front line. Me personally,
37:58
I don't care about blowback. I don't care about any
38:01
of these people. There is not one single person that
38:04
is ever associated with Jeffrey Epstein that pumps one bit
38:08
of fear into my heart. Zero fear. I don't. These people,
38:13
to me are the biggest lame asses in the history
38:17
of the world. These are the sort of people that
38:21
need to be crushed under heel. The days of them
38:26
making others fear them, those days are over, folks, because
38:30
the year twenty twenty, that is the year the predator
38:34
turns into the prey. Virginia Roberts, the woman who claims
38:38
Epstein forced her to have sex with Prince Andrew three times,
38:42
the first when she was just seventeen in two thousand
38:44
and one, also speaks out in the documentary. Prince Andrew
38:48
has denied that claim and claims that no wrongdoing has
38:53
ever occurred. During his infamous car crash interview on BBC's
38:57
Newsnight last November, he denied ever knowing that Roberts, Yeah,
39:01
you know, the picture was faked. All that stuff just
39:04
all made up. Virginia's story is just all made up.
39:06
And we should believe this. We should believe the Joe
39:08
Exotic of the royal family because he is a very
39:11
honorable man. You know. He told us that, and he
39:14
wears the honorable kit when he wants us to think
39:17
he's honorable. Fricking clown. She was interviewed by Netflix two
39:25
days after the Newsnight program aired and says, I'm watching
39:28
it on my tablet. I wanted to throw my tablet
39:31
in the pool. As a victim, the one thing you
39:33
ask for is some acknowledgment, some remorse. This guy, Prince Andrew,
39:37
didn't have any remorse at all. And that statement right
39:42
there is why I have zero remorse for any of
39:46
these people. No quarter asked, no quarter given game on,
39:54
because these people play for keeps, folks. They're not out here.
39:58
They're not playing around with the survivor. They're not you know,
40:01
they weren't messing around while they were out here conducting
40:03
their affairs. So they must be met with the same
40:06
sort of aggression. They must be met with the same
40:10
sort of fire. The best defense is offense, and in
40:20
this case that is certainly proven to be true. If
40:25
you'd like to contact me, you could do that at
40:27
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