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Gorgeous young mom drops tot-son with babysitter, disappears. HELP FIND Prisma Denise Reyes · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. In the last hours, a
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Speaker 1: development in the search for a beautiful young mom PRIs
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Speaker 1: Denise Reys. In the last hours, we learned that nearly
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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars reward has been posted in the return
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Speaker 1: or information about this beautiful young mom's disappearance. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: We first reported that Denise Reys goes missing outside an
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Speaker 1: apartment complex. She's actually caught on video, she's talking on
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Speaker 1: the phone. What alerted everyone to the fact that something
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Speaker 1: was horribly wrong is the fact that she failed to
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Speaker 1: pick up her child evening from the babysitter. Now this
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Speaker 1: is former military, This is a paralegal mom who has
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Speaker 1: been holding down a job for a long time, even
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Speaker 1: though she's only twenty six. When she failed to pick
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Speaker 1: up her six year old some from the babysitter, everyone
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Speaker 1: knew something was wrong. Last see that a Dallas apartment complex,
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Speaker 1: talking on her cell phone. She seems like nothing is
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Speaker 1: a miss again the single mom working as a paralegal.
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Speaker 1: Where is Denise Rays In the last hour a reward
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Speaker 1: put up? According to Dan Fuchs, her stepfather, What he
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Speaker 1: is telling us is he wants you to know about
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Speaker 1: the reward. Listen, I personally went and funded twenty five
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Speaker 1: hundred dollar reward because I'm hoping that that would be
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Speaker 1: enough to sway somebody to give us the information so
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Speaker 1: we can get get you, find her and get her home.
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Speaker 1: The lead detective in this case, Detective Barrett, also disseminated
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Speaker 1: the information through the Mesquite Police Department to all local media.
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Speaker 1: I think about this family out there in the hot
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Speaker 1: sun into the evening looking for Denise Reus. They're spending
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Speaker 1: day after day after day in the area where Denise
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Speaker 1: last scene, handing out flyers, placing them on telephone poles
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Speaker 1: and windshields, doing everything they can to bring her home.
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Speaker 1: Listen to Dan Fuchs. When when I was first able to,
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Speaker 1: I secured a billboard company, and I put up electronic
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Speaker 1: billboard for the first I was able to afford at
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Speaker 1: the time three days. At the same time, I ordered
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Speaker 1: a vinyl board permanent board of stays up thirty days
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Speaker 1: at a time, so I secured that for thirty days.
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Speaker 1: We have another alternate location that are already secured for
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Speaker 1: two more months. I've got on my my semi truck.
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Speaker 1: I've got a missing poster as similar as I have
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Speaker 1: to the flyers and everything on the side of my
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Speaker 1: truck that I drive around all over the place. I've
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Speaker 1: got magnetic signs on my car. Yesterday, my state or
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Speaker 1: her sister, my other daughter and I went out yesterday
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Speaker 1: and we probably put out one hundred and fifty flyers.
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Speaker 1: Talked to about nine or ten different people that are
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Speaker 1: walking their dogs. Every car that we've seen on the
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Speaker 1: street put flyers on it. Postal workers at work in
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Speaker 1: the area, I gave them flyers, City inspectors for the
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Speaker 1: construction in the area gave them flyers, and just trying
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Speaker 1: to get more out there to get people thinking and
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Speaker 1: remembering all this U As I said to people walking
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Speaker 1: their dogs, the one gentleman would have said to him
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Speaker 1: and his wife have been kind of following it, and
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Speaker 1: they're they're looking at the picture and everything else. It
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Speaker 1: kind of seems like it's maybe jarn a little bit
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Speaker 1: more and and their their brains there. Maybe maybe they
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Speaker 1: don't maybe they maybe they might think of something, or
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Speaker 1: might know of something, or maybe have seen something, but
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Speaker 1: they didn't think it was pertinent to what's going on.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to David Max Indicated talk show host start
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Speaker 1: at the very beginning. What do we know, Dave, We've
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Speaker 1: got a twenty six year old, beautiful woman with a
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Speaker 1: six year old son who leaves work during her lunch hour,
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Speaker 1: and that's the last time anybody has seen her. She
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Speaker 1: didn't show up to pick up her six year old son.
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Speaker 1: That was the tip off that family and friends had
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Speaker 1: knowing that something was amiss because she would never ever
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Speaker 1: leave her six year old without his mom. So they
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Speaker 1: knew and they immediately alerted everybody they could and started
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Speaker 1: looking immediately. We know she didn't pick up her son
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Speaker 1: from the babysitter's house, which she did every work evening
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Speaker 1: around seven thirty. Now, this is what we know. She
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Speaker 1: gets up as normal that day, she goes to work,
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Speaker 1: she drops the baby at the babysitters like she always does,
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Speaker 1: she reports to work, she goes to lunch, and then
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Speaker 1: she's never seen again. That's my understanding of the facts.
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Speaker 1: With me an all star panel. Ashley Wilcot, judge lawyer
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Speaker 1: anchor at Ashley Wilcott dot com. Jeff Cortez, a FBI
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Speaker 1: special agent. Dave Max, indicated talk show host from Karen
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Speaker 1: Stark Psychologists, joining us from Manhattan at Karen Stark dot
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Speaker 1: Com and Robin Malinski Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: I want to go to Jeff Cortiz, a former FBI
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Speaker 1: special agent. Jeff, I, like Dave Mack, find the most
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Speaker 1: uncharacteristic mark of this to be that she did not
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Speaker 1: pick up her baby, because maybe I'm projecting my own feelings,
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Speaker 1: but I would never, ever not pick up the twins. Ever,
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Speaker 1: I'd have to be incapacitated not to pick up my children. Yea, yeah, absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I think that that point was definitely not lost on
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Speaker 1: law enforcement. Between especially after understanding and gaining some visibility
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Speaker 1: and clarity on the relationship between the mother and the son,
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Speaker 1: it did appear that that to be a very standout,
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Speaker 1: in significant moment, not the least of which also included
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Speaker 1: the fact that they found the vehicle the next day.
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Speaker 1: So those were two extremely telling indicators for law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: What do we know about the moments of her disappearance?
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Speaker 1: Listen to our friend at CBS eleven. This is Andrea Lucia.
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Speaker 1: Security footage shows Prisma ray As standing by an elevator
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Speaker 1: at this Dallas department complex just before six o'clock Wednesday evening,
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Speaker 1: talking on the phone it is the last sign of
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Speaker 1: the twenty six year old single mother. Mosquite police have
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Speaker 1: been able to find her. Cheap Wrangler was found parked
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Speaker 1: in the same complex. Her mother, Lilia ba says this
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Speaker 1: has never happened, and before she last communicated with her
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Speaker 1: daughter Wednesday at noon to warn her about the storms
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Speaker 1: in the forecast that evening, she kept checking her phone.
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Speaker 1: Bedouta says she was looking to see if Yez had
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Speaker 1: sent her a message or a photo of her grandson,
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Speaker 1: as she usually does. Instead, Bedota later learned her daughter
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Speaker 1: had never showed up at her friend's house to pick
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Speaker 1: him up after work. Now Mesquite police are trying to
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Speaker 1: piece together what happened. It is unusual, I think for
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Speaker 1: anyone to maybe abandon a vehicle, but really to not
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Speaker 1: pick up their child when they're supposed to. I think
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Speaker 1: that's part of our biggest concern is why she didn't
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Speaker 1: pick her child up and you know, is she safe? Okay?
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Speaker 1: That puts her alive after six pm, and then she
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Speaker 1: is reported missing after she doesn't pick up the baby
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Speaker 1: at seven thirty. That should really refine the timeline absolutely so.
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Speaker 1: As you well know, Nancy, in all of these cases,
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Speaker 1: timeline is the most important thing because you've got to
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Speaker 1: narrow it down to figure out and be able to
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Speaker 1: focus the investigation. That significantly changes the timeline, so they
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Speaker 1: can start focusing on where did she go at six
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Speaker 1: o'clock and what happened between them and seven thirty. You know,
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Speaker 1: and right now this is a huge, vast investigation because
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Speaker 1: we don't know where she is during that timeline yet. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge big deal. Jeff corteze FBI
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Speaker 1: special agent. Now I can start at six o'clock. She's
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Speaker 1: caught on video surbiality and I'm looking right now at
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Speaker 1: the video surveillance. She has on a red it looks like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, like a soccer a professional soccer shirt.
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Speaker 1: She is talking on her cell phone, she's got her
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Speaker 1: pocketbook in the croak of her arm, she's holding her keys,
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Speaker 1: and she's you know, walking around. It looks like waiting
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Speaker 1: on an elevator in a parking deck, talking on her phone.
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Speaker 1: If that's at six o'clock, the advancement of that timeline
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Speaker 1: is highly significant. Jeff. No, absolutely, and the timeline is
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Speaker 1: critical to the investigative process. There's there's no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: But certainly the events leading up to six o'clock, So
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Speaker 1: even where she was at noon and where those receipts are,
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Speaker 1: what restaurant they might be coming back from, those are
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Speaker 1: also critical because the events leading up to the point
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Speaker 1: in which we last identify her location could be significant
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Speaker 1: to painting the picture of where she is now. Straight
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Speaker 1: out to Dave Max, Indicated talk show host Dave, what
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Speaker 1: can you tell me about the timing of that video?
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Speaker 1: Is it at six o'clock? If at five fifty pm? Nancy?
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Speaker 1: And it is crucial the location where this parking deck
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Speaker 1: is and why she was at that apartment complex. It
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Speaker 1: is the apartment complex of an ex boyfriend and the
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Speaker 1: relationship did not end well, according to her sister. Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace, I'm here illegal. Goes to work
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Speaker 1: as normal after dropping her son off with a babysitter,
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Speaker 1: works until lunchtime, takes her lunch break the rate most
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Speaker 1: of us do. She's never seen alive again, except for
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Speaker 1: one piece of evidence video surveillance. She was for some
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Speaker 1: reason at a nearby apartment complex. Is dressed as she
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Speaker 1: would be for work, and she seems to have her
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Speaker 1: work id around her neck, and she's talking on a
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Speaker 1: cell phone in front of a bank of elevators, seemingly
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Speaker 1: within the parking debt of that apartment complex. Her car
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Speaker 1: are later found about two miles away, but no Prisma.
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Speaker 1: Denise Yes, her family begging for help at this hour,
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Speaker 1: her stepfather Dan Fuchs, telling me he wants you to
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Speaker 1: know there is now an approximately three thousand dollar reward
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Speaker 1: for information for this beautiful young mom. The family alerted
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Speaker 1: when she didn't show up to pick up her son
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Speaker 1: at seven thirty in the evenings after work, as she
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Speaker 1: normally does. To Robin will Let's keep joining me now,
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Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter. Then we get another
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Speaker 1: development in the case of discovery of her vehicle seemingly abandoned.
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Speaker 1: That's right, Nancy. The car is found in a parking
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Speaker 1: deck in Old East Dallas. This is fifteen one, five
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Speaker 1: miles away from where she lives in Mesquite, Texas, and
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Speaker 1: you would have to go on highways and then a
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Speaker 1: couple of small roads to get to where the apartment
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Speaker 1: complex is an Old East Dallas and where she works.
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Speaker 1: I understand it's kind of midway between the two between
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Speaker 1: the home and where the car. The jeep wrangler twenty
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Speaker 1: seventeen model is found. But more can you tell me
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Speaker 1: about that? Dave Max and the Kady talks to her
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Speaker 1: us about the discovery of her jeep. Well, the jeep
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Speaker 1: is actually located about a block away from the apartment
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Speaker 1: complex that it was associated with, as she Willcott joining
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Speaker 1: me as well as Jeff Cortez, FBI, Dave Matt Karen
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Speaker 1: start Robin Linski to Jeff Cortez, what's the first thing
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Speaker 1: the FBI would do with an abandoned vehicle given these circumstances,
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Speaker 1: one of the things they're gonna do is they're gonna
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Speaker 1: process that vehicle. So they're gonna be looking for fingerprints, DNA.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be checking the position of the driver's seat
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Speaker 1: to see if, in fact, a five foot two woman
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Speaker 1: was driving it, or if somebody else was driving it.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be looking for signs of a struggle, any
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Speaker 1: indication that this vehicle was part of something. Nefaria, let
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Speaker 1: me go through everything you just said, Jeff Corteze, he
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Speaker 1: is the former FED with the FBI special agent. I'm
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Speaker 1: want to go through everything you just said with the
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Speaker 1: fine tooth comb number one, when you said the seat,
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Speaker 1: remember Ashley Wilcot and Tara Grinstead's car, who a beloved
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Speaker 1: high school teacher, beauty queen getting her master's degree, brilliant, beautiful.
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Speaker 1: The works disappears, never seen again. She was a neat freak.
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Speaker 1: Her home was incredibly neat, everything in order. Her car.
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Speaker 1: You know those people that their car still smells new
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Speaker 1: after two or three years. She was like that. But
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Speaker 1: when they got her car, Ashley, it was covered in mud.
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Speaker 1: And just like Jeff Cortize is saying, the driver's seat
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Speaker 1: was pushed back. Nobody her size would have been able
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Speaker 1: to hit the gas or the brakes, Ashley, that sayes
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Speaker 1: everything to me. Nancy. You know, my very first employer
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Speaker 1: got in my car when I was out of law school.
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Speaker 1: We were driving to a depth, and you know, he
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Speaker 1: said to me, you could always tell a lot about
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Speaker 1: a person by their car. I completely agree. But with
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Speaker 1: the seat all the way back like that, that is
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Speaker 1: a huge clue that it wasn't just her driving, got
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Speaker 1: out of the car, got a wild tear, took off
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Speaker 1: all of that. In conjunction with this is a reliable,
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Speaker 1: responsible young mother who's never not picked up her child,
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Speaker 1: and the seats back like that, we've got a problem. Yeah, everybody.
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Speaker 1: If you want to see mock up of her vehicle
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Speaker 1: or the video of her the last known signing a prism,
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Speaker 1: please go to crime online dot com. We've got the
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Speaker 1: tip line and everything breaking in this story. Another issue
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Speaker 1: back to Jeff Morteze regarding the car, what would you
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Speaker 1: look for if you were looking for signs of struggle,
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Speaker 1: as you pointed out, if she was somebody who is
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Speaker 1: more meticulous in her cleaning, I'm gonna look for something disrupting,
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Speaker 1: something that suggests that the the items within the car
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Speaker 1: had been moved around. I'm gonna be looking for tears.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you know, this is a relatively small
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Speaker 1: vehicle or smaller vehicle, but I'm gonna be looking for bloodstains.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking for globs of hair, mud, or dirt,
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Speaker 1: things that might otherwise seem out of place. You know,
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Speaker 1: all of that is visible to the naked eye. Jeff
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Speaker 1: Cortez a FBI. What about that evidence that is not
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Speaker 1: visible to the naked eye? Fibers. I'm talking about fibers
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Speaker 1: that was that were used to connect all the victims
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Speaker 1: in the Wayne Williams serial killer case. First time in
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Speaker 1: the country. I'm talking about the use of luminol to
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Speaker 1: find possibly invisible to the naked eye blood. What else
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Speaker 1: can you find in a car that would not be
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Speaker 1: visible to the naked eye? Sure scent, you could find
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Speaker 1: DNA fibers, skin follicles. You can find pieces of from
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Speaker 1: an individual person that might identify a DNA that is
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Speaker 1: different or unusual or inconsistent with the rest of the car.
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Speaker 1: You know, speaking of the car and everything that Jeff
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Speaker 1: Cortize is advising us that would be looked for. You know, also,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Cortize, you have to look at something like you're
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Speaker 1: on Star which might be tracking you or some type
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Speaker 1: of GPS in there that may say where the car
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Speaker 1: has been before it was abandoned there. And speaking of
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Speaker 1: where it's abandoned Robert Lensky Crime online dot Com, I'm
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Speaker 1: curious because it means a lot. Was it down a ravine?
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Speaker 1: Was it left out in the woods? Was it in
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Speaker 1: a disley wooded area? Was it in a walmart parking
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Speaker 1: a lot? You know, a lot of times you hear
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Speaker 1: of cars that are part of kidnappings or that have
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Speaker 1: been stolen part of the very last park spot in
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Speaker 1: a Walmart or behind the grocery store, where nobody's going
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Speaker 1: to see it until several days have passed. What do
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Speaker 1: we know about where Prism of ray Ass jeep was abandoned?
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Speaker 1: It was in some sort of a parking lot area.
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Speaker 1: Because the neighborhood where this apartment complexes in oldies Dallas
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Speaker 1: is basically nancy three to four story apartment buildings and
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Speaker 1: it has lots of parking lots. It's not really a
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Speaker 1: wooded area. There's basically apartment complexes and places to park
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Speaker 1: your vehicle. So somebody would park it there and it
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Speaker 1: would just blend in into dozens and dozens and dozens,
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Speaker 1: maybe hundreds of other cars as the days pass. Prince
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Speaker 1: Fox four News Dallas Police say that they have no
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Speaker 1: suspects or persons of interest at this time. Meanwhile, Rays's
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Speaker 1: family continues to pass out flyers and hope someone sees
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Speaker 1: them and may have some useful information. Prism. We're doing
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Speaker 1: all we can for you. We're trying to find you.
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Speaker 1: We love you, and we're we're doing all we can
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Speaker 1: they try to bring you home. It's been more than
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Speaker 1: a month since anyone has heard from Prisma Reyaz. She
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Speaker 1: was last seen Wednesday, April seventeenth, around five fifty pm
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Speaker 1: on surveillance cameras and an apartment complex off Rosalind and
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Speaker 1: McCoy in Oldies. Dallas. Police say the person she's seen
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Speaker 1: talking to on the phone has been interviewed and is
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Speaker 1: not a suspect, but also has not provided any solid leads.
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Speaker 1: Her family reported her missing when she didn't show up
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Speaker 1: to pick up her son from the babysitter that evening
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Speaker 1: at her usual time seven forty pm. The next day,
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Speaker 1: police found her white jeep Wrangler abandoned behind the Olympus
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Speaker 1: on Ross Apartments. She would never leave now, not just
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Speaker 1: up and leave like this. No, there's just no way.
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Speaker 1: She just wouldn't do that. Her first and up most
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Speaker 1: foremost saying was the love for her son. Dan Fuchs
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Speaker 1: is Reyes's stepfather. He regularly walks the area where Reyes
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Speaker 1: was last seen multiple full times a week, handing out
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Speaker 1: flyers and talking to anyone he sees in hopes someone
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Speaker 1: might know something. And we're putting mom poles when I
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Speaker 1: put him underneath windshield wipers, just trying to keep beating
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Speaker 1: the pavement more to get people thinking more and more
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Speaker 1: and more and more to remember this and maybe it'll
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Speaker 1: trigger something their mind. Fuchs has rented billboards, he has
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Speaker 1: raised his face plastered on his car, and he's offering
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Speaker 1: a twenty five hundred dollar reward for information, stopping at
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Speaker 1: nothing to bring her back home. She is out there,
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Speaker 1: and I honestly feel in my heart and I pray
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Speaker 1: to God every day that she will be brought back
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Speaker 1: to us safely to come home. We need her, her
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Speaker 1: son needs her. She needs to come home. We miss her.
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Speaker 1: Mosquite Police are investigating, and they say that they continue
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Speaker 1: to follow any and all leads that they get. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: anyone with information is urged to contact investigation. Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous brunette Mesquite mom goes missing
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Speaker 1: on her lunch break. Last scene talking on her phone
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Speaker 1: in parking garage video surveillance. But now a reward available
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Speaker 1: for information in the case of the missing mom from Mesquite.
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Speaker 1: The family of twenty six year old Prisma Denise reyas
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Speaker 1: offering nearly three thousand dollars for information that leads to
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Speaker 1: a break in her disappearance. She disappears on her lunch
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Speaker 1: break from her job. She had been working as a
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Speaker 1: pair illegal. She was working at a car lot in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: Who may have seen her on that car lot? Who
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Speaker 1: were ex boyfriends? Why was she at this elevator bank.
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Speaker 1: She was last seen on the surveillance video at the
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Speaker 1: Olympus on Ross apartments in Old East Dallas. Her car
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Speaker 1: found not too far away from there. Her family knows
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Speaker 1: something's wrong when she didn't pick up her baby boy
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Speaker 1: from the babysitter. She's never done that before. In the
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Speaker 1: last hours that reward announced, her family is out putting
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Speaker 1: up flyers, canvassing the area and the hot sun, and
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Speaker 1: they need your help. Tipline nine seven two two eight
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Speaker 1: five six three three six repeat nine seven two two
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Speaker 1: eight five six three three six You know I keep
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Speaker 1: looking at this video on again. You can see it
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Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. Some people have says she
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Speaker 1: looks distraught. She doesn't look distraught at all to me.
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Speaker 1: She's got on um like capri jeans or gene tights.
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Speaker 1: She's got on black tennis shoes with a white bottom.
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Speaker 1: She's got her bag on her arm. She maybe going
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Speaker 1: back cooked in her right arm. She's got a long
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Speaker 1: key chain. It looks like it's something should wear around
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Speaker 1: her neck like an employee. Id and again kind of
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Speaker 1: a red soccer looking shirt, and she's talking on a phone.
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Speaker 1: She's just kind of wandering around talking to me. And
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Speaker 1: I know all of you guys have looked at it.
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Speaker 1: To Dave, Max indicated talks to her. She doesn't look
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Speaker 1: distraught at all to me. And she's not flailing her
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Speaker 1: arms around. She's just walking back and forth, shifting her weight.
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Speaker 1: It looks like she's waiting on an elevator in a
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Speaker 1: parking debt. That's clear. It appears to be. But Nancy,
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Speaker 1: here's the catch. Her stepfather, Dan Fuchs, actually made a
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Speaker 1: comment specifically about how normal that appears to most people.
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Speaker 1: If you've got a child, you know, they have different
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Speaker 1: tells when they're nervous, when they're upset, they do different things.
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Speaker 1: And Dan FEUs, her stepfather, who she referred to his dad,
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Speaker 1: he says that that actually shows that she was nervous.
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Speaker 1: There was something going on, because she what appears to
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Speaker 1: be normal to you and me, we don't know her.
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Speaker 1: He knows her. And he said that that Aba You're
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Speaker 1: actually showed something was going on to him. You know what,
23:03
Speaker 1: you're right as she will hut. I mean I can
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Speaker 1: look at John Dave or Lucy, my twins, and they
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Speaker 1: can exhibit a behavior that looks normals somebody else, but
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Speaker 1: I know it means something very different. Absolutely, you can
23:15
Speaker 1: look at a child, you can look at someone that
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Speaker 1: you're related to, your own child, and you're right, you know.
23:20
Speaker 1: And I always say trust your gut, because even if
23:22
Speaker 1: you don't know what it is, why they're acting different,
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Speaker 1: why they seem different, you know, And the majority of
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Speaker 1: the time, if not every time, you are going to
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Speaker 1: be dead on right that something's wrong. Listen to Dan
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Speaker 1: Fuchs watching her left arm flail around like that a
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Speaker 1: little bit. It's a trait that she had as a child.
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Speaker 1: And then if you watch him, she's on the telephone,
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Speaker 1: holding the phone in front of her face, her head
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Speaker 1: starts talking left to right, and that it was since
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Speaker 1: the day I met her. That's a sign that I've
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Speaker 1: seen in her. Whenever she starts getting irritated or getting upset,
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Speaker 1: is her head will start dawdling back and forth left
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Speaker 1: to the right, and then her arm will start to move,
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Speaker 1: and then she'll start moving from side to side. Someone
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Speaker 1: so looking at that, I saw all that as soon
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Speaker 1: as I saw her hit her arm moving and I
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Speaker 1: looked at a little bit more. I saw her head
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Speaker 1: going back and forth. I said, right then and there,
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Speaker 1: something's bothering her. Something's not going, something's not gone, the
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Speaker 1: conversation's not going the way she'd liked it, or she's
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Speaker 1: getting very frustrated or upset, or something's going on right there.
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Speaker 1: Because so that was to me was a telltale sign.
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Speaker 1: And then when her mother saw it, she said the
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Speaker 1: same exact thing. I want to talk some more about
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Speaker 1: what we can see in the video about the location
24:30
Speaker 1: of her vehicle. Another issue I'm trying to find out
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Speaker 1: about Robin Molinski Crime online dot Com is the nature
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Speaker 1: and scope of the search, because at the beginning they
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Speaker 1: no one would even say she was missing. Why is it, Robin.
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Speaker 1: Whenever a woman disappears, everybody says, oh, she's run off
24:49
Speaker 1: with her boyfriend. She has not run off with her boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: It took some time before everybody agreed she's missing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's nonsense, Sai and are just running off into the sunset.
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Speaker 1: I don't buy it for a minute. This is someone who, again,
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Speaker 1: who really has a regulated schedule. When you have your
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Speaker 1: kids at the babysitter, you pick them up, so you're
25:13
Speaker 1: not overcharged. Here's the bottom line. This is a woman
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Speaker 1: who abided by a schedule every day. She didn't just
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Speaker 1: run off into the sunset. That's nonsense. But what strikes
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Speaker 1: me about this video that is so specific. I've watched
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Speaker 1: it a couple of times. The phone, Nancy. She's speaking
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Speaker 1: on the phone, she's holding it in our hand. The
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Speaker 1: conversation is on a speaker phone. Are you talking in
25:39
Speaker 1: a private conversation, a deep conversation with your lover or
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Speaker 1: your husband, or your boyfriend or a boss, and letting
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Speaker 1: anyone who would be walking by getting off that elevator.
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Speaker 1: She has the phone on speaker in her right hand,
25:55
Speaker 1: and the ID and the keys on that long lanyard
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Speaker 1: are an her left hand. Wait a minute, wait at Robin, Robin,
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Speaker 1: So you think it's unusual for somebody to talk on
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Speaker 1: speaker because Hello, is it just me, Dave mac? Because
26:11
Speaker 1: I've read all these suggestions that you should not hold
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Speaker 1: your phone right up to your head. Okay, I don't
26:19
Speaker 1: want all those radio waves going through my head. I
26:21
Speaker 1: don't care who's scoffing at me. They said cigarettes didn't
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Speaker 1: cause cancer either, Look what about that? So I talked
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Speaker 1: to everybody on speaker unless I can manage to steal that.
26:32
Speaker 1: You're plug away from one of my twins who clutch
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Speaker 1: it like it's gold. So I'm always on speaker. Everybody
26:39
Speaker 1: hears everything I'm saying. I'm just saying I'm sorry. You
26:41
Speaker 1: have to hear me talking to my eighty seven year
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Speaker 1: old mother. He's hard of hearing. I have to scream, Okay,
26:46
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but yeah, I don't think that's ought to
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Speaker 1: be talking on speaker. Is that? Is that just me?
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt No, I think it's normal. And actually, Nancy,
26:55
Speaker 1: you know, while many of us we see that and
26:56
Speaker 1: we wonder who she talking to, what's going on? Well,
26:59
Speaker 1: the police have already talked to the person on the
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Speaker 1: other end of that phone call. They're not telling us who, what, when,
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Speaker 1: or where, but they already talked to that individual and
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Speaker 1: then said it has nothing to do with this case. Okay,
27:09
Speaker 1: listen to Dan Fuchs, and she did have a three
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Speaker 1: minute phone call to somebody she knows. She says she
27:14
Speaker 1: was feeling confused, feeling very strange through this phone call,
27:20
Speaker 1: and he asked her to ping her telephone and he
27:23
Speaker 1: would get somebody he knows in the area because he
27:24
Speaker 1: was out, he was gone out of count at the
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Speaker 1: prison time at that time, and he says she seemed
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Speaker 1: to be kind of confused enough to where she couldn't
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Speaker 1: even figure how to ping her telephone. Oh my stars,
27:36
Speaker 1: did you hear that, Jeff Cortize. Did they've spoken to
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Speaker 1: the person she was talking to on the phone interview?
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Speaker 1: Then they whoever it is, they won't divulge it, but
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Speaker 1: they've spoken willingly. So that's really not helping me except
27:48
Speaker 1: giving me a time another clue. Maybe that person knew
27:51
Speaker 1: where she was headed. Man, m it helps me a
27:55
Speaker 1: little bit, I guess, Jeff Cortize. Yeah. I think even
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Speaker 1: identifying people who are not facilitators in nefarious activity is
28:05
Speaker 1: helpful to law enforcement. So being able to cross names
28:09
Speaker 1: offul list can always be helpful and is helpful, especially
28:13
Speaker 1: when you're dealing one of the missing person games crime
28:26
Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace chris La Denise Rays disappears seemingly
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Speaker 1: into thin air, her stepfather telling us he is now
28:37
Speaker 1: renting billboards. He has this beautiful daughter's face plastered on
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Speaker 1: his car. He's offering nearly three thousand dollars in reward
28:49
Speaker 1: for information her family stopping at nothing to bring her
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Speaker 1: back home. He tells us quote, she's out there, and
28:57
Speaker 1: I honestly feel in my heart and I pray to
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Speaker 1: God every day she will be brought back to us safely. Listen.
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Speaker 1: It's extremely hard, you know. I just try to keep
29:07
Speaker 1: myself busy, so I don't, you know, dwell on it.
29:10
Speaker 1: And it can sal me because I've just it's a
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Speaker 1: twenty four or seventh thing. It just keeps rotating in
29:16
Speaker 1: my head and going through and going through and going through,
29:20
Speaker 1: trying to figure all this out. Like Monday, I went
29:24
Speaker 1: and walked the actual footsteps inside that apartment complex in
29:27
Speaker 1: front of that elevator to see what she might have
29:30
Speaker 1: seen that day, and I just I can't see. There's
29:34
Speaker 1: only one way in and one way out. Let's go
29:36
Speaker 1: through the main office at that place. So I'm still
29:39
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how how she's out of there
29:41
Speaker 1: if she's not inside of there somewhere. To me, it
29:44
Speaker 1: was just like a dream cloud. As you know, right
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Speaker 1: or wrong, every investigation into a homicide or missing person
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Speaker 1: starts close to home. I'm talking about your husband, your boyfriend,
29:58
Speaker 1: your X, the guy it was your X three years
30:02
Speaker 1: ago and you've got a t r against him, anyone
30:05
Speaker 1: close to you and your immediate orbit. Then if that fails,
30:10
Speaker 1: you step out. Coworkers, neighbors, associates. Then you step out,
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Speaker 1: and you keep going. End up with the pizza delivery boy,
30:19
Speaker 1: you end up with the guy at the grocery store,
30:21
Speaker 1: you end up with the bank teller, and it goes
30:23
Speaker 1: on and on and on, because normally, right or wrong,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Cortez, a former FBI special agent, homicides occur by
30:34
Speaker 1: people that know you, not necessarily your husband, but maybe
30:38
Speaker 1: your husband, your ex, your boyfriend, and then you move out,
30:43
Speaker 1: ever so slightly. Statistically that's true. Do you agree? Oh? Absolutely,
30:49
Speaker 1: absolutely that's the case. So in that scenario, I want
30:53
Speaker 1: to hear first about the search. What is being done?
30:57
Speaker 1: Are they using k nines or are they walking shoulder
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Speaker 1: to shoulder with cadets? What has been done? Dave Matt
31:03
Speaker 1: Syndicated talk shows Too Fine, Prisma, Denise Nancy. They actually
31:06
Speaker 1: have done exactly as you described. They've gone door to door,
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Speaker 1: canvassing the entire apartment complex that is attached to this
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Speaker 1: parking garage where we saw her on that video at
31:15
Speaker 1: five fifty in the evening They've canvassed the neighborhood. They've
31:19
Speaker 1: talked to everybody, every family member, co workers, pasco workers,
31:23
Speaker 1: They've talked with everybody at this point. There it's an
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Speaker 1: exhaustive search. Let's keep police going door to door in
31:29
Speaker 1: the area where Prisma Denise was last seen. They asked
31:35
Speaker 1: everyone to check security cameras and hopes of finding more
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Speaker 1: footage of her the day she goes missing. To Dave
31:43
Speaker 1: matt you said everything has been done. I assume that
31:46
Speaker 1: means looking at bodies of water if there is one nearby,
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Speaker 1: bringing in shriker dogs, cadiver dogs, scent dogs. You taught me,
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Speaker 1: shoulder to shouldier sharts. Have they done drone and air
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Speaker 1: search as well? Dave Matty. What we've been told by
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Speaker 1: the police thus far is that they've done an extensive
32:04
Speaker 1: search around the apartment complex of that thirty five hundred
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Speaker 1: block of Roseland Avenue, which is where her vehicle was found,
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Speaker 1: what they referred to as abandoned and where that video
32:14
Speaker 1: was taken of the CC camera that we saw. They've
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Speaker 1: gone to every apartment building, every apartment, they've knocked on
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Speaker 1: the doors. They've gone to the other buildings along that
32:23
Speaker 1: same block, knocking on doors to talk to anybody who
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Speaker 1: has any information about the evening that Prism was last seen.
32:32
Speaker 1: Speaking of starting with a small nucleus. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friend at Fox four Dallas, says Alex Boyer.
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Speaker 1: Right now, Mesquite police detectives are going door to door
32:42
Speaker 1: in this area. They're asking folks to check their surveillance video.
32:47
Speaker 1: They're hoping that there's additional video of Price Maria's from
32:51
Speaker 1: the night she went missing in this area. Meanwhile, her
32:54
Speaker 1: mother and sister are devastated. They're waiting for answers. Where
32:58
Speaker 1: is she? We have to know. Still no sign of
33:01
Speaker 1: the devoted single mother from his ski. It's hard seeing
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Speaker 1: my nephew every morning and knowing that he might not
33:06
Speaker 1: be able to see his mom ever again. Dallas police
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Speaker 1: officers located rays Is cheap abandoned on Rosalind Avenue in
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Speaker 1: Oldies Dallas last Thursday morning. Surveillance video released by police
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Speaker 1: places ray Is at a nearby apartment complex around five
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Speaker 1: to fifty Wednesday night. Investigators have not said why they
33:25
Speaker 1: believed she may have been there, but Rays' sister revealed
33:29
Speaker 1: a possible link. We do know of an ex boyfriend
33:32
Speaker 1: that lives there and her car was parked the block
33:34
Speaker 1: from there. As Morelda Pilalda reported that information to police.
33:38
Speaker 1: She tells me the relationship ended badly. Let's talk about
33:42
Speaker 1: the obvious, the boyfriend. Ashley Wilcott judge, trial lawyer or
33:47
Speaker 1: anchor Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley, he should expect to
33:52
Speaker 1: be questioned. That's just SAP started operating procedure. And I
33:58
Speaker 1: find it very probative that she was in his apartment
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Speaker 1: complex going to pick up the baby and the car
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Speaker 1: was found not too far away from the apartment complex. Ashley. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it does not give me a good feeling at all, Nancy.
34:14
Speaker 1: A couple of things. Number One, he should absolutely expect
34:18
Speaker 1: to be questioned, because they should be questioning everyone that
34:21
Speaker 1: she has contact with or known in the area, or
34:24
Speaker 1: that knows her. Second, you know as well as I do,
34:27
Speaker 1: the statistics part of it, most people. Things don't happen
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Speaker 1: to most people by strangers. Usually statistically, it's by someone
34:36
Speaker 1: that we know, someone that knows us, and he would
34:40
Speaker 1: fit that bill. So he is a potential He's certainly
34:43
Speaker 1: a person of interest, if not a potential suspect. We
34:46
Speaker 1: know that in the hours after Prisma, Denise disappears. Her
34:51
Speaker 1: sister called her on her cell and it rang and
34:54
Speaker 1: rang and rang, going to voicemail. Now the cell phone
34:59
Speaker 1: ap to be off or the battery drained. That's significant,
35:04
Speaker 1: Jeff Cortiz, because right after we note she was gone,
35:09
Speaker 1: and that's around seven thirty, when she didn't pick up
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Speaker 1: the baby, the phone was still working. How long Jeff,
35:16
Speaker 1: does it take to get triangulation? Well, I mean you
35:19
Speaker 1: could look at historical records to get an idea of
35:22
Speaker 1: a general vicinity. If you're talking about getting a precise location. Uh,
35:28
Speaker 1: you know that that doesn't take very long. But you
35:31
Speaker 1: know there are court processes in place that you know,
35:34
Speaker 1: protect people from the government being able to do that
35:37
Speaker 1: too seamlessly. Now in a missing person case, obviously there
35:40
Speaker 1: are some exaging circumstances that said this being the same evening,
35:46
Speaker 1: the turnaround time on such a court order might might
35:48
Speaker 1: be hard to put a finger on that. And I
35:52
Speaker 1: don't really know at what point the phone stopped working,
35:55
Speaker 1: So you know, the phone does need to be operational
35:58
Speaker 1: for them to get that a close ping as beyond
36:02
Speaker 1: just hitting off the cell tower. Another thing we know,
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Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. Robin wills Kin, Dave
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Speaker 1: matt Is, the person she was talking to, has not
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Speaker 1: only been identified interviewed, but they have been cleared as well.
36:16
Speaker 1: What about the boyfriend. I don't know the boyfriend's name yet,
36:19
Speaker 1: that has not been released. But is he considered a
36:21
Speaker 1: person of interest Nancy at this point, I don't know
36:24
Speaker 1: his name either, and I'm not even going to assume
36:26
Speaker 1: the police have talked to him, because you know as
36:28
Speaker 1: well as I do, people lawyer up right away. And
36:30
Speaker 1: knowing that this according to her sister, the relationship ended badly,
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Speaker 1: Dan Fuchs jump in. From what my understanding was actually
36:40
Speaker 1: is that at the time she was trying to read
36:43
Speaker 1: kindle or relationship with an ex boyfriend that had gone
36:46
Speaker 1: broke up very badly, and he had a new studio apartment,
36:50
Speaker 1: and I was told that he had an apartment in
36:52
Speaker 1: this building. So that's the only reason why I could
36:57
Speaker 1: put her actually put her there, given the history there was.
37:04
Speaker 1: It was New Year's Eve a couple of years ago
37:06
Speaker 1: when they were together that kind of went kind of
37:09
Speaker 1: a violent type thing, and then they parted ways. And
37:14
Speaker 1: from what my nderstanding was from her that she had
37:17
Speaker 1: called me on the telephone after her birthday and said
37:20
Speaker 1: she was back together with this person. And because she
37:24
Speaker 1: told me, she said, well, you might not like who
37:26
Speaker 1: I'm with because and I said, well, as long as
37:29
Speaker 1: you're okay and my grandson is okay, and you're being
37:33
Speaker 1: treated good, you're an adult, you can be who if
37:36
Speaker 1: you want to be with. And she told me his name,
37:39
Speaker 1: and I heard him in the background, and so that
37:43
Speaker 1: was That's how that was moving along right there, And
37:46
Speaker 1: that wasn't very much prior to her disappearance. I spoke
37:50
Speaker 1: to the detective here in Mesquite yesterday twice and he
37:56
Speaker 1: is following every lead, every little tip that he can get,
37:59
Speaker 1: but so far has been nothing concrete enough to lead
38:03
Speaker 1: him to her again. The tip line nine seven, two
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Speaker 1: two eight, five, six three three six, please help us
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Speaker 1: bring Denise Reyas home to her son. Nancy Grace Crime Stories,
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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,