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#302: Silent Hill (2006) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Sometimes when you go to sleep,
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  you go on a little walk and sometimes you talk about a place
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  called Silent Hill. Welcome to What's Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all of our
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  favorite. And least favorite?
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  Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse. And welcome back, everybody.
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  We are back with another episode this week.
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  And if you can't tell, we're talking about Silent Hill.
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  Indeed we are. That would be a really weird
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  opening quote if we weren't. That's true, yeah, but we're
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  going to get into it. Yay.
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  But before we do that, we have things that we have to address
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  first, OK, like announcements. Do we have any?
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  We have to be or not to be a coming up this weekend.
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  Yes, that's right. That's right.
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  And that. Is Travis's pick.
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  Yeah. God help us all.
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  I think I already know what it's going to be and that's the right
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  attitude to have. Oh no.
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  Yeah, it's OK. It's I hope it's not another one
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  that you're so confident on that we end up turning off after 20
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  minutes because it would be impossible to take notes.
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  On, I don't think, well, I can't say because I've never seen it,
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  but I think it's going to be OK. I think it's going to be a good
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  time, honestly. It's going to be Halloween
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  themed. Of course.
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  Yeah, you got to do that in October.
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  It's October. Yeah.
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  I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully you guys are too.
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  OK, I got one more announcement, sort of.
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  It's our October tradition, as most horror movie fans do, We
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  watch a different horror movie every night in October, and as
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  we're recording this early afternoon, the morning of the
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  5th, we only have four days worth of rapid quick fire
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  reviews for you, but we're going to go ahead and share those now.
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  Yeah, this is our Scream screen, as we like to call it.
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  It's our own little Film Festival thing that we do.
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  We take turns picking movies. We don't have veto powers on the
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  other person's choice unless it is for very specific creditable
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  reasons, such as when I was still in school we could not do
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  subtitled movies. Yeah, 'cause you couldn't.
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  I couldn't. Yeah, you had the multitasks.
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  And we also alternate between movies that we've seen before
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  and movies we haven't seen before.
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  That way we sprinkle in new ones.
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  Which is nice 'cause this right here, that's too familiar and
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  too new for us. Yes.
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  So we started off this year with Travis's pick.
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  Yeah, he picked Halloween 6, but the theatrical cut?
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  Which is different for us. We usually do.
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  Producers cut. I forgot how much is different
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  we when we covered Halloween 6, we covered the Producers cut.
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  And man, those of you who are familiar only with the
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  theatrical cut, I can only imagine how confused you were
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  listening to that. Well, that makes me happy
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  because I, I feel like we have potential if we ever wanted to,
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  to go back and just do that theatrical cut version of an
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  episode. Yeah, it's, it's very different,
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  but I like it. You know, I, it gets, it's a
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  tough rap from some people, but I, I think it makes some good
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  changes. I like both versions, but you
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  got to start off the month of October with the Halloween
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  movie. It's only right?
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  Everybody's entitled, so one good scare.
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  Maybe more though, but at least one.
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  Yeah, a second movie was my pick, and it was Candyman, which
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  I maintain is one of the scariest movies I've ever seen.
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  Super solid. I love that movie.
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  It was good. It's been a long time since
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  we've actually sat down and watched it.
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  It was our first time watching it too since the fascinating
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  Tony Todd Which. Was said.
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  Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Yeah.
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  But it's God, it's such a, it's such a good one.
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  And we're eventually going to cover those movies on the show.
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  Oh yeah, 100% it will happen. Yeah, I am looking forward to
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  that one. OK, third, maybe it was a new
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  pick. Yeah, it's Travis's pick.
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  I chose the death proof. Yeah.
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  Yeah, that was our first time watching that.
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  It was a lot of fun. Yeah, I liked it.
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  It ended so abruptly. Yeah, it did.
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  In case you haven't watched it yourself like we hadn't, I'm not
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  going to spoil spoil anything. Yeah, but it was a good time.
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  And like, you're sitting there, you're like, well, that's an
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  abrupt ending, But also, yeah, it kind of concludes the story.
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  Yeah, it really does. I mean, you get an ending.
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  I had a good time with it. That was one that I had been
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  wanting to watch for a long time.
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  Yeah. It's like the Quentin Tarantino
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  horror movie. Starring Kurt Russell.
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  That man can make anything sound cool.
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  What was it he said? He said Virgin Pina Colada, and
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  even that sounded cool coming from out of his mouth.
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  Big. That's his.
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  That's his end of the night, Yeah.
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  His build up, yeah, he's he's sober.
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  OK 4th movie we watched last night and it was The Craft
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  Legacy which I picked because we didn't see it when it came out
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  in theaters and it was fucking impossible to find anywhere
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  until like last month. Yeah, it suddenly popped up
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  like, OK, no, it's. Just yeah, yeah, it was on on
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  Pig Ark and I was like, we're watching this before it
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  disappears into the ether again. I thought it was a very
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  different. Eventually it would be fun to
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  cover both of the use. It was a very different telling
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  of the original, which I think is good for a sequel.
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  I think it also ended abruptly but in a different way than
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  Death Proof. Cuz there are a lot of like, OK,
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  cool, we've got these storylines resolved, but I am also kind of
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  curious about some other things that happened.
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  Yeah. Yeah, don't get resolution on.
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  Yeah. But I I would recommend it if
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  you're a fan of the original. It's a modern take on some of
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  the themes and it's a lot less toxic in the friend group, which
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  was just kind of nice to see like a non-toxic friend group.
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  Yeah, yeah, I definitely check it out.
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  Yeah, like at least give it a shot.
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  It's yeah, it's worth it. It's worth at least giving it a
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  shot. I think so.
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  All right. That being said, we don't have
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  poll anyway. Let's move on to yeah.
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  It's just this is what it is. And that's what it is at this
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  point, we're just we're taking life as it comes at us and
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  sometimes it comes at us without the opportunity to do a poll.
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  Yeah, that's OK. That's OK.
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  We got this. We got this because we're
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  venturing. We're going to the next state
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  over. We're heading over to West
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  Virginia. Yeah, it is.
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  We're not going to the haulers. No.
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  We're not seeing our bubbies over there.
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  The the Hillkers, of course. We're going to a very disturbing
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  place. Oh my God though, Can you
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  imagine the Hilliker brothers in the darkness of the purgatory?
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  I'm not convinced that they're not like the wrong turn movies
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  may exist in the same it's a shared.
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  Universe, I need to I need to watch the rest of the Silent
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  Hill movies and then. Yeah, there's one more.
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  There's only one. More.
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  Oh, OK. There's another one coming out
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  OK, but it hasn't released yet. I think this is so funny, too,
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  because we've talked previously about PT on the show, and I know
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  that that was like, it was a big surprise for the people that
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  finished it. Like, yeah, it's a new Silent
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  Hill game. So the context that is actually
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  mine and Jesse's only experience with the video game series.
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  I've not played any of the Silent Hill games.
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  I'm fairly familiar with it because I've had friends that
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  were into them, but that was I. I'm disappointed that I haven't.
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  I really want to, but I want to play it the right way and the
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  only thing I can get right now is like the remastered version
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  and they removed all the fog from that.
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  How do you remove fog from Silent Hill?
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  So originally the fog was implemented as like a wave
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  because of the restrictions of the hardware of the PlayStation,
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  like you couldn't load everything in the town.
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  So it's like, OK, we'll put fog here.
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  That way things can load hidden and you can like wonder.
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  It's smart, it's smart. It's one of the many examples of
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  having limitations and it ends up becoming something.
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  Not a bug, but a feature. Exactly, like you actually make
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  the most of your limitations, but for some reason when they
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  were doing their like, hey, we can actually show everything now
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  and it just kind of defeats the whole purpose of the whole
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  thing. The whole thing is fog.
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  Is like a big I. Mean it's a feature.
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  It's in this movie. Not to not to spoil things too
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  much, which if you haven't watched this movie yet, stop
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  what you're doing right here. Go watch it and come back here
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  because from this point on, all spoilers are happening.
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  I knew that the fog was a big deal.
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  I've often made jokes with very foggy mornings being like Silent
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  Hill, which is just how pervasive this movie is in pop
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  culture, even if you haven't seen it before.
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  But when they got back to their house at the end and I was like
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  why the fuck is it still foggy? It could be plausible, you know,
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  up in Ohio it does get a bit foggy, but it's still, I mean,
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  within the movie. It's just representative of the
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  state of mind of living in Ohio. Yeah, it doesn't.
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  The scenery doesn't change that much from West Virginia to Ohio,
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  I guess. OK All right, all right.
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  So we're going to get into it. Why did you pick this one?
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  Well, I picked it because you had never seen this.
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  I saw this in. Well, yeah, obviously I saw this
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  back in theaters whenever it came out.
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  But it's I like it. It's interesting.
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  I like, I mean, you've made references to stuff like that
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  before. You're familiar.
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  But I wanted you to at least have like some experience with
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  it other than PT, obviously, because that's like a you're not
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  supposed to know it's a selling hill game until you've finished
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  it. And it's a completely different
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  approach to everything from that whole series from what I could
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  tell. But yeah, I just, you know, I, I
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  wanted you to finally see it, and I wanted us to do a video
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  game adaptation finally. I don't think we've done one on
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  the show before. We haven't done Resident Evil.
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  That's true. The closest thing was Stay
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  Alive, which isn't really accurate considering it's just
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  based on a fictional video. Game, Yes.
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  It's not actually an adaptation of a video game, Yeah.
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  However, it is in the Muniz era, so it does get a pass.
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  And I'm sorry for all of our Muniz era stands out there.
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  We passed on Aminas era movie while we were out thrifting
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  earlier this weekend that we unfortunately are not the proud
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  owners of a DVD of Agent Cody Banks.
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  Agent Cody Banks, if you want it on the show, let us know.
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  We'll make it a horror movie. OK?
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  So yeah, that's why, that's why I wanted to do this one.
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  I'm really glad too, because now I have contacts for the really
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  awesome pyramid cosplays that we see.
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  I guarantee you we'll see another one this year.
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  You always see them at Scarefest or in horror conventions.
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  There was one. It was almost like last year, I
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  don't know if you remember it, She did almost like a Lolita
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  style period. Yeah, there was like a gender
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  Pyramid Head type thing and she had her own flair to it.
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  It was really well done. Yeah, it was, it was a it was AI
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  love people that can twist things and add a spin like that
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  onto them. So I thought that was really
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  cool. Which, yeah, like he is a very
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  cool character, very confusing character.
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  But yes, we're we're going to get into all of that here.
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  I have to see that that becomes like that.
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  That character is brought back in the sequel.
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  I feel like he's probably in every single one of them.
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  Surely you can't. I mean, he's too iconic to leave
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  out. You know, even if he doesn't
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  belong, they'll they'll jam him in there.
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  OK, so let's get into it all. Then yay.
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  All right, so Silent Hill released April 21st.
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  I accidentally wrote 2025, but it's actually 2006 is when that
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  happened. We watched it on Peacock and if
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  you want to watch it streaming wise, you can stream it on
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  Peacock like we did or also Fubo TV.
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  And if you don't have either of those options, you can rent it.
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  You can rent it on Amazon, Apple TV, YouTube, and Fandango at
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  home. Written by Roger Avery, directed
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  by Christophe Ganz, music by Jeff Dana and Akira Yamakoa or
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  Yamoka. Pardon me.
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  Special effects makeup by Patrick Tatopoulos.
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  Tatopoulos. Patrick Tatopoulos designs.
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  There we go. I'm guessing but.
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  I I think it just sounds a little bit better.
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  Starring Rodda Mitchell as Rose, Sean Bean as Christopher, Laurie
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  Holden as Sybil, Jodelle Frolin as Sharon and Alessa, Deborah
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  Care of Unger as Dalia, and Alice Krieg as Christabella.
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  OK, time for a favorite game on the show, Jesse.
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  Budget or Buckton? I think just with everything
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  like how involved this movie is, I'm gonna save Budget.
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  Yeah, definitely a budget. This was 50 million.
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  Dollars got damn. Yeah, and it looks every bit of.
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  It Yeah, it does. Opening box office 20 million
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  Worldwide gross 100 million. That's all.
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  Yeah, it wasn't that impressive. Wow, surprising me for sure.
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  IMDb score 6.5. OK, good.
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  Pretty good. Good.
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  All right, so I have 3 movies here from 2006 to compare to and
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  we're just we're running to the hills but this right?
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  Here, run into the hills. OK, run into the hills.
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  Movie #1 The Hills Have Eyes that came out March 10th, 2006
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  with a $15 million budget, worldwide gross of $70 million
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  and an IMDb of 6.4. It's right on the hills of
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  Silent Hill, on every aspect, right there.
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  Yeah, right on the hills. Movie #2 it's the legend of
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  Vipers Hill. OK that came out Halloween day
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  2006 with a budget of $5000. Nice.
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  I don't have the gross but the IMDb is 5.6.
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  I have no idea what this movie is but it had heal in the name
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  so I went with. It all right.
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  All right. And the final one.
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  This is a stretch, but I have. Let me warm up.
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  I got this OK. It's called the breed.
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  However, this happens to have in a major role a man named Hill
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  Harper, who is now a Democratic politician, mind you.
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  So now he's on the hill. He's on the Hill.
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  He's working his way to the Hill.
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  I don't think he's made it quite there yet.
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  He's trying to go for senator. I went to his Wikipedia page.
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  I was kind of curious. I was like, if I'm going to make
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  this stretch, I need to learn a little bit about this man.
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  At least it's a well informed stretch.
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  Yeah, that movie came out June 1st, 2006.
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  Don't have any budget, but the worldwide gross is 1.6 million
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  five .1 on IMDb. All right, it also starts Weddy.
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  Oh, really? Yeah.
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  She was gonna say Letty who? And then I realized Michelle
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  Rodriguez. Yeah, Michelle Rodriguez, Yes.
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  Does she? Does she ride a motorcycle?
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  Too soon, Too soon. It's she doesn't get into that
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  phase of her life until much later.
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  OK, All right. So I've got a lot of tag lines.
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  Yay, You know what? We've been starved for tag lines
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  lately. Yeah, yeah.
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  Wow, you went full Kermit with that.
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  OK, I'm thinking these aren't going to be good tag lines.
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  Well. It's more like empty calories.
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  You got a lot of them, but it's just a lot of, you know, junk.
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  Like my the the McDonald's Coke my sister treated me to
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  yesterday like you need it sometimes, but this isn't
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  actually doing much for me nutritionally.
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  That and also whenever I'm like, do I need two more Oreos?
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  Yes, but no, I really don't need two more Oreos.
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  I got count on 11 tag lines here for us to go through.
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  OK, All right, did. You actually write them all in?
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  I sure did. Once I get past like 3 I just
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  write. See screenshot.
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  But they OK, but they're all. Small Oh oh wow.
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  Yeah. So I was able to fit many on one
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  line. OK, so the one that's on the
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  poster, we've been expecting you.
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  OK. Yeah, see, that's not bad.
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  I like that as a poster. One there, the next one.
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  Enjoy your stay. OK, OK.
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  Third, the game is on. Nah, not bad.
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  Yeah, like that one. You have to know that it's based
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  on a video game, but it kind of works.
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  Welcome to Silent Hill. And it's just like on the sign
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  probably. I feel like that just needs to
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  like you just have to have the welcome to above the title.
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  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the silence will be
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  broken. That's pretty good, yeah.
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  Like once you get to the the whole meat of the thing.
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  Yeah, and there's this one. Not so silent anymore.
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  Who's gonna? Quip right there, yeah.
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  Damn, I'm surprised Alice Craig didn't say that to the little
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  child she burned to death. Yeah, she should have.
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  Yeah, which I need everybody to understand.
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  We watch Alice Krieg in three movies and three movies only,
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  but multiple times in a 2 month period each year.
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  She is the Queen. In the Christmas.
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  In the Christmas Princess trilogy on Netflix and that was
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  all we could see in her it. Blew my mind whenever you told
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  me that's who that was cuz I didn't see it until you said
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  that and then it all came to me just like in a flash right
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  there. Like holy shit that's the
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  fucking Princess. That's the Queen.
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  That's the Queen. Yeah, man.
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  Yeah. Queen Aleen, right?
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  I'm pretty sure that's her name. I think so, yeah.
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  I don't know. OK, Next, once you enter Silent
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  Hill, there's no turning back. That's also pretty true.
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  Yeah, they they cool. But is it?
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  I don't know. Christopher goes in there and
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  makes it out OK. That's true.
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  He wasn't in the limbo. Silent Hill.
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  I've got some explanation for everything that went down there,
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  just to kind of give context because it's a little confusing,
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  but I'll get into that here in a little bit, OK?
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  I've been thinking it over and I think I kind of understand it,
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  but I think it'll be good to discuss.
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  Yeah, for the show. Sure, welcome to hell.
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  See, I thought it was more purgatory, but OK.
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  Yeah, again, we'll get we'll. Talk about it more, maybe I
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  don't understand it as well as I think there there's a.
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  Little bit of hell, a little bit of hell.
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  There's a smidge. A smidge.
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  Some towns should never be entered.
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  Yes. That's true.
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  Welcome to paradise. Nah.
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  I don't like that. And the final one, population 0.
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  It's All in all caps spelled out 0.
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  OK. It's quite a lot of people
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  living in Silent Hill, in fact. Limboing in Silent Hill.
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  That's paradise. Limbo it.
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  Depends. One of those fucking cruises,
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  you know what I mean? They always have limbo going on
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  there. OK, OK.
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  OK. I hope it's a good thing you're
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  warmed up for the stretches. Yeah, thank you.
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  Hey, I thought that was OK. That wasn't terrible.
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  It's not the best word, but it's not.
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  Worse. You know what though?
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  Saying OK for one of your puns. That's a pretty decent
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  compliment. That's true.
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  That's true, actually. All right, so let's get into
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  some fun facts. Yay.
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  So our director here, Christophe Ganz, is a very, very big fan of
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  the games. That's how he got the job for
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  this movie, which is a good sign for video game adaptations
• 19:42
  because a lot of times you see a lot of these people take the job
• 19:46
  and they don't really care about the source material.
• 19:47
  They just want to make their own vision of like some loose idea
• 19:50
  of what they have. So, you know, we actually had
• 19:53
  somebody here who cared, which was very nice.
• 19:56
  He cared so much, actually, that he fought for the rights for
• 19:59
  five years. And he sent a 37 minutes video
• 20:03
  interview to Konami, who are the owners of the property Silent
• 20:08
  Hill, and included Japanese subtitles and everything.
• 20:11
  And he was just making his case for what he was wanting to do
• 20:14
  with the film series. And they saw that.
• 20:18
  And they're like, this guy gets it.
• 20:19
  He understands what this property is.
• 20:22
  He understands and he wants to do it right.
• 20:24
  So we're going to let him have it.
• 20:26
  Which kind of impressive. Konami is not exactly good.
• 20:31
  They since this all happened, they've had a lot of they've
• 20:35
  they've become a very greedy company and they don't really
• 20:39
  treat their properties very well.
• 20:40
  So it's kind of nice to see that they are actually they were
• 20:43
  actually caring about this one at one time.
• 20:46
  He originally wanted to adapt Silent Hill 2 as a story, but
• 20:53
  it's a, it's a more emotional story, which is what drew him to
• 20:56
  it. But it's not the real Silent
• 20:58
  Hill, as you like to call it. It's more of a backdrop, OK.
• 21:01
  And you can't really tell that story without providing any
• 21:04
  context for the location whatsoever, because it as cliche
• 21:10
  as it is to say, the place is actually a character.
• 21:13
  Oh yeah. More so than most times when
• 21:15
  people say that in this story here.
• 21:18
  So he he still wanted to do as faithful as an adaptation as
• 21:23
  possible. However, he got Roger Avery here
• 21:27
  to do the writing and Avery wanted to do more of an
• 21:31
  interpretation rather than an adaptation.
• 21:34
  And they were kind of at odds here a little bit every now and
• 21:36
  then. They ended up keeping some of
• 21:39
  the storylines and combining some others, kind of what you do
• 21:41
  with a lot of adaptations, like with books mostly.
• 21:45
  But Avery was just mostly wanting to capture the spirit of
• 21:48
  everything. I mean, they even went so far as
• 21:51
  to like create new characters with the film crew here.
• 21:55
  So like, it's not like we're not getting all of like the iconic
• 22:00
  monsters and stuff in this movie, but some of them are
• 22:02
  there. Some of them are creations using
• 22:05
  elements from the video game, but it's not 100% accurate, but
• 22:09
  it's as close as they could get. They actually hired professional
• 22:13
  dancers to play most of those monsters, by the way, which
• 22:17
  makes sense considering when you see the nurses and how they have
• 22:19
  to move in very interesting ways.
• 22:21
  Yes, that makes sense. And that's also really funny for
• 22:24
  me in my head. So the original script was
• 22:29
  rejected due to lack of male characters in it.
• 22:32
  The studio was not very much a fan of that decision, so.
• 22:38
  You never get a script rejected for lack of female characters.
• 22:41
  No, you don't. Yeah, but this actually made
• 22:45
  Ganz very infuriated because he really wanted it to be that.
• 22:49
  That's what the story should have been.
• 22:50
  Mother is God. However, he saw this as an
• 22:56
  opportunity to take advantage. Like with the video game, with
• 22:59
  the fog, they had to work with the limitations.
• 23:01
  He's like, OK, I'm going to use this right here and I'm going to
• 23:04
  tell something interesting. He is like, OK, I'm going to
• 23:08
  tell that story that kind of fucks with reality, like what
• 23:12
  they're doing with everything here.
• 23:13
  So they have like the opposing views of everything that's going
• 23:16
  on with Christopher and everything that's going on with
• 23:19
  Rose, and they ended up actually making it work into something
• 23:22
  that kind of benefited the movie overall.
• 23:25
  Yeah, it definitely helps. It helps explain the the
• 23:29
  different dimensions basically. It makes it more apparent.
• 23:32
  Yes, sure. We don't have to have it like
• 23:35
  outwardly explained, we were just seeing it.
• 23:37
  Exactly. And as a result of this, he
• 23:40
  ended up actually having to take some concepts from Silent Hill
• 23:43
  two and three, which he's like, I didn't really want to do that,
• 23:47
  but they were there now and it was too irresistible for me to
• 23:51
  not include that. So might as well just go ahead
• 23:53
  and go for everything while I can.
• 23:55
  And when this is all being made, fans were going to do what fans
• 24:00
  do. They were going to be very
• 24:02
  obnoxious with it, some of them a little bit more extreme than
• 24:04
  others. There's it was mostly Rodger
• 24:07
  Avery that was catching most of the Flack for this because he
• 24:09
  was riding it and he would get some mail from fans.
• 24:12
  Some of them would say that they are the only ones that could
• 24:16
  write the movie and that he has no business doing it and if he
• 24:20
  fucks it up they were going to find him and kill him.
• 24:24
  He got fucking death, man. People care deeply about this
• 24:29
  movie. They wanted it done right and he
• 24:31
  said I believe them. He actually believed that his
• 24:35
  life was in danger if he did not do this movie right.
• 24:38
  This I just think of Richie in screen 5 where he's like how can
• 24:43
  fandom be toxic? I know very, very easily,
• 24:47
  especially the gaming community. That's probably one of the more
• 24:50
  toxic communities out there. Probably the same dudes.
• 24:54
  We're like, hey, we need more dudes in this movie.
• 24:57
  Probably, yeah. Yeah, you tell me we're gonna
• 25:00
  have ladies in my video game movie.
• 25:04
  That's a bona fide chick flick at that point, nothing else.
• 25:09
  All right? And that's it for the fun facts
• 25:10
  I have. There's a shit load more.
• 25:12
  I don't have enough time or room on any of the things I can ride
• 25:16
  on. You could probably have like a
• 25:17
  dedicated podcast just to Silent Hill.
• 25:19
  Surely you could, yeah. Surely it exists?
• 25:22
  I yeah, I just wanted to try and capture the interesting things
• 25:25
  that are relevant for us in this discussion here.
• 25:28
  OK. Yeah, that sounds good.
• 25:30
  All right, so and Italia's, if you can't hear, telling us it's
• 25:34
  time to get started with our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
• 25:37
  So Jesse, you kick it off. What'd you like?
• 25:39
  Oh, man. OK, so I actually, I was writing
• 25:42
  down a lot of things because I knew it was going to be a couple
• 25:44
  days gap between watching and discussing.
• 25:49
  It's got a very scary atmosphere the whole time.
• 25:51
  Yeah, like you're immediately in that place.
• 25:54
  Like, OK, I don't feel good. Like just.
• 25:57
  Uneasy. Yeah.
• 25:57
  Money easy. There's a ton of what the fuck
• 26:00
  visuals and I think that like some of those are pretty
• 26:05
  hardcore. You have to remember this is the
• 26:07
  era of saw and hostile when people are like, oh, everything
• 26:12
  is just falling onto the jumping onto the torture porn craze.
• 26:17
  And in this movie, you've got things like people in barbed
• 26:22
  wire bondage. And yeah, there's just, Oh my
• 26:26
  God, there's a. Lot of upsetting imagery.
• 26:28
  There's a ton of upsetting imagery and just some some sick
• 26:33
  minded stuff in a complimentary. Yeah, exactly.
• 26:37
  We're coming up with these for for the I don't know how much of
• 26:40
  it came from the movie versus the video game, but whoever that
• 26:42
  source material should be credited to like that's
• 26:44
  disgusting. Good job.
• 26:47
  The very intriguing mystery that we're trying to solve throughout
• 26:50
  with all of this because I like, I love it when we're in a movie
• 26:54
  and we're placed into the same kind of what the fuck headspace
• 26:58
  as the character. Oh, I bet you, yeah.
• 26:59
  We're picking up the clues at the same time as rose and symbol
• 27:03
  and that doesn't really effective bit at getting you
• 27:07
  invested and same with figuring out the mystery of all of this.
• 27:11
  And they don't try and, like, hide stuff back.
• 27:12
  Like when we see the we hear about Alessa and Dalia says
• 27:16
  that's my Alessa. And then we see the pictures.
• 27:19
  Like, none of that comes as a shock.
• 27:20
  It's just like, OK, we're putting these clues together and
• 27:22
  they don't hold it back longer than they need you to be like,
• 27:24
  well, yeah. I mean she saw the picture and
• 27:26
  already said it like. Yeah.
• 27:27
  And that was one of those moments where I was like, oh,
• 27:29
  she's just like claiming anything as first type thing.
• 27:32
  And then I was like, Oh yeah, like the daughter.
• 27:35
  Like looks. Exactly the same as her
• 27:36
  daughter. Yeah, yes, I felt the pacing was
• 27:39
  phenomenal. At no point did it actually feel
• 27:42
  like it was a 2 hour movie. No.
• 27:44
  And I, I actually think it's really cool that this is a video
• 27:48
  game adaptation because the whole time I'm watching, I'm
• 27:49
  like, man, this would be a really fun video game to play.
• 27:51
  Yeah. I, I, I really, really want to
• 27:54
  like play the original 1. I need to find a way.
• 27:57
  I'm like, just whatever, I'm going to figure out how to play
• 27:59
  them the right way. And in kind of like falling onto
• 28:03
  all of that before, like the movie took pains to not over
• 28:06
  explain things as we're going along with it, like we're
• 28:09
  figuring out things at exactly the right times, exactly in pace
• 28:12
  with the characters. And I think that is really,
• 28:15
  really nice. Yeah.
• 28:18
  So overall, just like this is just a really effective movie
• 28:21
  for me. Good.
• 28:22
  I'm glad that it was effective for you.
• 28:25
  I was curious to see how you were gonna react to everything.
• 28:27
  I I did. If you guys didn't see our call
• 28:29
  for reviews, we did it a little bit differently than normal.
• 28:32
  It was just me saying what the fuck?
• 28:34
  Yeah. Please tell me what you all
• 28:35
  think. I did actually throw my pen at
• 28:38
  the end of this movie because I was like, yeah.
• 28:41
  It's another abrupt ending, yeah, But it was good.
• 28:45
  It was a good reaction. I won't necessarily say I think
• 28:49
  exactly why I said like, I don't know if the reaction was good,
• 28:52
  but I'm glad that you got a reaction.
• 28:54
  Yes. Because that, that was good.
• 28:56
  I'm glad that there was something there to react to that
• 28:58
  harshly. Like, we go through all of that
• 29:00
  and we do all of these things and they're still in limbo or
• 29:03
  purgatory or hell or paradise or whatever.
• 29:06
  Yeah, well, if it makes you feel any better, the sequel took six
• 29:10
  years to come. Now it came out in 2012.
• 29:12
  Oh man, you would have had to wait like a long time to figure
• 29:17
  out what the hell happened there.
• 29:18
  Or you could just play the games I guess.
• 29:20
  I guess, yeah, man, OK. All right, you got anything
• 29:23
  else? That's that's it.
• 29:25
  But I feel like it was a decently long list.
• 29:27
  Yeah, none of that's good. OK.
• 29:29
  Yeah. So I agree with a lot of what
• 29:31
  you said there, mostly like the exposition drops like are kind
• 29:36
  of just throughout we are picking up clues along with
• 29:38
  everybody else. I'm with you.
• 29:40
  I like starting off with a confused character and you're
• 29:43
  going along the journey with them.
• 29:45
  And yeah, it gets started like a right away.
• 29:47
  Like we don't spend a lot of time building up this back story
• 29:51
  of the family or the characters or anything like that.
• 29:53
  We just know she's having nightmares about this place
• 29:56
  called Silent Hill and the mother just decides that they're
• 29:59
  going to take her there and then that's it.
• 30:01
  And that's all that we really needed for this.
• 30:05
  I like how the game feels like it is progressing, like the
• 30:08
  video game, another game. The movie feels like it's
• 30:11
  progressing like a video game. It has things like, OK, like,
• 30:14
  you know, you're arriving in town, you just, like, have some
• 30:17
  sudden weird shit happen to you. And then, like, you find a map
• 30:21
  and then somebody gives you a flashlight.
• 30:23
  You know what I mean? It's like all the queues that
• 30:25
  always happens in video games, but it happens organically in
• 30:28
  the movie. And it feels at home here.
• 30:31
  Like, it feels like it works. And I liked how they handled the
• 30:36
  parallel between Christopher and Rose in this because that was
• 30:42
  just such a good way to get that across.
• 30:45
  And it made for like a really interesting story because I feel
• 30:48
  like if you didn't have that, like it adds like this other
• 30:51
  like, what the fuck for like a like a tension to it.
• 30:55
  Like, you know, something's off and everything fills off already
• 30:59
  in this place. But that's like an extra bit of
• 31:01
  like, well, something is clearly very wrong here.
• 31:05
  Like what the hell is happening? And it kind of gets you a little
• 31:07
  a little bit more invested in what's going on and.
• 31:10
  Then it helps us bring in that cop too.
• 31:12
  Yeah, Sybil. No, the other one.
• 31:14
  Yeah, the other one Gucci. Gucci Mane.
• 31:16
  Gucci as I put them in my notes. Gucci.
• 31:18
  Yeah, that's funny. Anytime he said Gucci, I was
• 31:20
  like, is he like complimenting something or like.
• 31:22
  Gucci. Gucci, like he finds the fuss
• 31:24
  like, ah, Gucci like he's just excited about it.
• 31:29
  Do you want me to go ahead and review the thing that I was
• 31:32
  talking about before about like all of the the dimensions that
• 31:36
  we're in with this right here when since we're already kind of
• 31:38
  on topic or do you want to go about that?
• 31:40
  Let's do it as we're going through the movie, OK?
• 31:43
  Explain it as it makes sense when we go through it.
• 31:44
  OK, I got you. OK, so that's it for the goods.
• 31:48
  What about bats? Honestly, I really don't have a
• 31:51
  lot of bats about this. Really.
• 31:53
  OK. Yeah, I like I said, I thought
• 31:56
  the pacing was really good. It didn't over explain things.
• 32:00
  I mean, maybe we did have a little bit of like like over
• 32:06
  expositioning at the end with Dark Alessa.
• 32:09
  That would probably be like my biggest strike against it, but
• 32:14
  that's about it. OK, yeah, that was one of my big
• 32:17
  things too. It drops everything.
• 32:19
  It it becomes all tell no show at the very end.
• 32:22
  Cutscene. Unskippable cutscene.
• 32:25
  Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
• 32:26
  Like, instead of letting the game progress and you, like,
• 32:30
  play it through, like here, we're just going to tell you
• 32:32
  everything. And yeah, I think it hurts it a
• 32:35
  little bit there at the end. I feel like the movie is a
• 32:40
  little bit confusing though, too.
• 32:42
  Like, it takes a while for you to, like, get everything.
• 32:45
  But like, even as you're watching it, it's still kind of
• 32:47
  confusing. It's hard to follow at times.
• 32:50
  They asked you to stay with it all the way to the very end,
• 32:53
  pretty much to even have the slightest clue of what's
• 32:56
  happening. And that's a pretty tough ask
• 32:58
  for a 2 hour movie. But you know, I guess it depends
• 33:02
  if like being confused is OK with you.
• 33:05
  You know, I, I, I don't mind being confused in a little bit
• 33:09
  unsure of what's going on with my movies, but I know a lot of
• 33:11
  people are also not really into that.
• 33:14
  And there were times where I'm like, I really don't know what
• 33:17
  the hell is happening, but like, I have a feeling I'm gonna
• 33:19
  figure it out. But it's still very confusing
• 33:21
  seeing what's happening right now.
• 33:24
  It kind of gave me endings of like books that I really love,
• 33:28
  where like things aren't necessarily all completely
• 33:31
  resolved because these characters are still characters
• 33:33
  that have to go on and live their lives after the events of
• 33:35
  everything. And you have a sense of wanting
• 33:38
  to know what happened, but you have closure from the main meat
• 33:42
  of the story. But things are still open for
• 33:44
  what the future could be. And that's kind of how it how
• 33:46
  the ending made me feel. OK, yeah, I I could see that.
• 33:50
  Yeah. OK, Well then ugly.
• 33:52
  What do you have? Ugly.
• 33:54
  OK, the the witch. Trial.
• 33:56
  Yeah. Witch hunts.
• 33:59
  I I'm not going to rehash one of our earliest episodes, but that
• 34:05
  has long been cited by listeners as a favorite, even though it
• 34:09
  was like a very old format for quality.
• 34:11
  Yeah, the witch. I went into a lot of background
• 34:14
  on the witch trials and that's like, this is based on actual
• 34:20
  history and it's fucked up. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:23
  I forgot how much they went into like the whole witch hunt type
• 34:26
  thing in this movie. I remembered them being like
• 34:29
  held up at like, like on posts at the end of the movie, but I
• 34:33
  couldn't remember the context of everything.
• 34:35
  And I was like, Oh yeah, it's like a cult.
• 34:37
  So the actress that plays Sybil, she is also in The Mist as the
• 34:42
  character Amanda. Which means that she has been in
• 34:46
  two supernatural semi apocalyptic horror movies where
• 34:50
  she's not only facing the demons of a parallel dimension, but she
• 34:54
  is also dealing with a religious zealot who wants to kill a child
• 34:57
  to appease adventure God. Also low visibility, natural
• 35:03
  occurrences, mist or fog. Yeah.
• 35:05
  So that's what a niche, what a niche to have.
• 35:08
  Good for her, I liked her character.
• 35:10
  Why in this movie? All right, Yeah.
• 35:13
  I mean, it's really hard to, you know, go against what you said
• 35:17
  there. Yeah.
• 35:21
  Shit. Yeah.
• 35:27
  You know, I, I think it's really fucked up that they they did it
• 35:31
  to this child, especially the whole.
• 35:32
  Yeah, purifying them by burning them to death is fucking crazy.
• 35:36
  Yeah, you're not purifying any of that.
• 35:38
  You're just murdering or semi murdering.
• 35:42
  Yeah, it ended up you basically created a cinebite at the end of
• 35:47
  the movie there. No, they basically created a
• 35:51
  What's his face from the burning?
• 35:56
  Cropsy. Cropsy.
• 35:58
  Are you kidding me? No man, the like the fucking
• 36:01
  Alyssa erupts from the floor at the end of the movie with like
• 36:04
  all of these like fucking like vine shit and barbed wire and
• 36:09
  that's fucking hellraiser if I've ever seen it.
• 36:13
  OK, she is cropsy as a Cinnabite.
• 36:16
  There we go. I can.
• 36:17
  I'll be OK with that right there.
• 36:18
  I just felt like her motivation is.
• 36:21
  Being burned to death. And yeah, yeah, that's really
• 36:24
  more what I was getting at. OK, I got you.
• 36:28
  OK, Absurd. OK, I have two, both of them I
• 36:33
  laughed out loud during the movie.
• 36:34
  So these won't be new moments for you.
• 36:37
  But the first one is when Rose and Sybil are reunited at the
• 36:41
  attack of Pyramid Head. And she was like, Sybil's
• 36:45
  yelling at Rose to hand her a pipe and she's taking too long
• 36:48
  to get it. And I was like, Sybil, she is
• 36:50
  still handcuffed with your cuffs.
• 36:53
  Yeah, and she was trying to tell you everything and you could
• 36:55
  not. Listen and then second of all,
• 36:59
  the visual of the nurse very spooky.
• 37:02
  I get ready. It's a common Causeway, however,
• 37:06
  they looked like a thriller flash mob.
• 37:09
  Yeah, they did, yeah. And so when you said that they
• 37:13
  were all dancers, I was like, well, that makes sense.
• 37:16
  Yeah, OK. My absurd was I thought it was
• 37:22
  fucking amazing. Every time Anna sees Dahlia, she
• 37:25
  just goes and grabs rocks and throws.
• 37:28
  Like every time in this movie that they're in a room together,
• 37:31
  she just like, gets rocks and it's just throwing them at
• 37:33
  Dahlia, man. It's also kind of really fucked
• 37:37
  up that Rose basically got Anna killed or super murdered, I
• 37:42
  don't know, because they're all in like limbo or purgatory or
• 37:44
  whatever. How did she, though?
• 37:45
  She didn't have to stay out there.
• 37:47
  They could have all just ran back herself, you know, like she
• 37:50
  just like what Queen Christmas Prince said.
• 37:55
  She had. She's a grown up.
• 37:56
  She had her own choice there. She made her own decision.
• 37:59
  And yeah, all right. I think we can rate this now.
• 38:04
  OK. What do you give this?
• 38:06
  I'm going to give this a nine. I can't believe I've never seen
• 38:09
  it. It's so.
• 38:10
  Good, glad that you liked it. I'm giving a 8 1/2.
• 38:13
  OK, I like this movie a lot too. It's nice whenever we have good
• 38:17
  video game adaptations. 8.75. 8.75 Good shit.
• 38:23
  All right. Well, we're going to get into it
• 38:25
  then. We start off immediately with
• 38:29
  Rose and Christopher looking for their daughter Sharon.
• 38:32
  She has run out or walked out as a sleepwalker.
• 38:37
  Rose is just following her like barefoot in her jammies, and
• 38:42
  they live in a dangerous landscape for a chronic
• 38:45
  sleepwalker. Right next to a road which is
• 38:48
  right next to a Cliff. Yeah, over a waterfall.
• 38:52
  And Sharon manages. Sharon is like right there at
• 38:54
  the ledge and she's about, she's seeing what essentially I guess
• 38:58
  is like kind of a coal mine type.
• 39:01
  Yeah, she's getting visuals of Silent Hill down.
• 39:04
  There. Yeah.
• 39:04
  And she's about to, like, just fall forward.
• 39:06
  And when Rose knocks her down and save certain, Sharon
• 39:11
  basically says Silent Hill. And this isn't the first time
• 39:14
  she's sent it. So Rose and Sharon later are
• 39:17
  talking, and Rose explains to Sharon that she is a
• 39:21
  sleepwalker. And I'm just going to say, this
• 39:23
  is a sleepwalker. There are other things you can
• 39:26
  do before, like trying to uncover your traumatic history.
• 39:29
  Like start with a high up lock on the door.
• 39:33
  Yeah. For me for me, a sleeping mask
• 39:38
  has been actually really efficient at helping with my
• 39:40
  sleepwalking. It really has actually done
• 39:43
  wonders. This feels like an extreme case,
• 39:47
  though, where she's had many situations like this in the past
• 39:50
  where she just keeps talking about Silent Hill and it's
• 39:53
  getting them, the parents concerned.
• 39:55
  Yes. So she's like, you know what,
• 39:57
  I'm taking you to Silent Hill. We're going there, You're going
• 40:00
  to confront whatever it is. And that is kind of that's crazy
• 40:03
  that she jumped straight to that.
• 40:04
  Like you're confronting your trauma.
• 40:06
  And Christopher is like, how about we confront her trauma
• 40:09
  with a therapist, get some medication and Rose like Nope,
• 40:14
  they'll lock her up. That's generally not the first
• 40:18
  most credible counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists,
• 40:25
  what not they want to do like and this is true for like all
• 40:28
  facets of medicine, but you want to do the least invasive
• 40:31
  treatment method first, which would not be immediately like
• 40:35
  unless you're a danger to yourself or others would not be
• 40:38
  putting you in any kind of a hold.
• 40:41
  But you know, we also wouldn't have a movie.
• 40:44
  True also. In like the in the mid 2000s
• 40:48
  where like throughout the general public mental health
• 40:52
  stuff wasn't quite as you know, seen as normal I.
• 40:56
  Guess yeah, it wasn't talked about as openly and it was very,
• 40:59
  very heavily stigmatized, which feels weird saying because
• 41:02
  there's definitely still a lot of stigma nowadays, but it's
• 41:05
  actually gotten better. People are way more educated
• 41:07
  about it all now though at least.
• 41:10
  And Rose, to her credit, like she doesn't leave it out for
• 41:14
  Christopher, but she leaves her laptop open.
• 41:17
  Yeah, I mean, she's still kidnapping their child.
• 41:22
  Yeah, and she won't answer the phone when he tries to call.
• 41:24
  He stumbles upon it and sees Silent Hill, West Virginia.
• 41:28
  That's where they're going. And.
• 41:29
  He reads through what looks like a haunted.
• 41:35
  Article. No, it looks like a website
• 41:40
  promoting AM like a haunted ghost tour.
• 41:44
  That's that's what I was trying. To think of.
• 41:45
  OK. Like like what we did in
• 41:47
  Charleston. Yeah, yeah, OK.
• 41:49
  Basically like that. And he's like reading the
• 41:51
  history of the town and he's like, this is not like a place
• 41:55
  where you should bring our daughter in.
• 41:57
  Yeah, I think that's that's the right call.
• 42:01
  But she's she's against it. She's taking her.
• 42:03
  And they are on the outskirts of the town.
• 42:06
  They're stopping at a gas station, gassing up.
• 42:09
  Rose takes a look at Sharon's drawings.
• 42:11
  Sharon is a She's a little artist, but some of her drawings
• 42:14
  have like blackness over top of them and she wakes her up and
• 42:18
  she's like, hey, look what you did to your drawings.
• 42:20
  And she's like, I didn't do this.
• 42:21
  Yeah, we saw the 1st is a very normal happy drawing and then
• 42:24
  all of a sudden it became a very scary, not happy drawing.
• 42:27
  And this actress, like she, we've actually talked about her
• 42:31
  in the show before. Believe it or not, she is
• 42:33
  Patience Buckner and Cabin in the Woods.
• 42:36
  She's also preed Hanner in Twilight Socket Eclipse.
• 42:39
  Yeah, this right here is probably the biggest role.
• 42:42
  Yeah, she does a really good job.
• 42:43
  I thought she held her own really well as a good child
• 42:45
  actor. And that's a This is a hard role
• 42:48
  for a child actor because she's playing 2.
• 42:51
  Characters, and one of them is very demented, yes.
• 42:54
  Yeah. So Rose goes inside the pay for
• 42:58
  gas. When we see Sybil, the cop on
• 43:01
  the motorcycle is also at the gas station.
• 43:03
  She's kind of suspicious of the mom.
• 43:06
  So she goes over to the van and she's like, hey, are you safe
• 43:10
  with this woman? And she goes, don't talk to
• 43:12
  strangers. And Sybil's like, good job.
• 43:15
  And inside, Rose is asking the clerk how to get to Silent Hill
• 43:20
  because it's not on the maps. And she said the roads don't go
• 43:22
  there anymore. What the fuck does that mean?
• 43:26
  Whatever you want it to mean, they can mean anything.
• 43:29
  And the clerk also tells her that her card's being rejected
• 43:32
  because Christopher cut off their cards.
• 43:34
  That was a surefire way to get her to call him back.
• 43:37
  And you know what she did? Yeah, it works.
• 43:39
  She calls and they discussed that the adoption people said
• 43:46
  that she is from West Virginia, so they.
• 43:49
  And Silent Hills in West Virginia?
• 43:50
  Exactly so. They're kind of putting the
• 43:52
  pieces together. Yeah, the meds basically aren't
• 43:55
  working. So Rose is just like, we're just
• 43:58
  going to go to the sources. Yeah, and after driving away,
• 44:01
  Sybil writes down the license plate on the car as they are
• 44:04
  driving. And she ends up catching up with
• 44:07
  them and starts to pull them over.
• 44:10
  And Rose realizes this is not going to actually, I don't
• 44:15
  really know what she's really this.
• 44:16
  Is incredibly short sighted right here.
• 44:17
  She's just making a very poor decision, She.
• 44:20
  She tells Sharon to buckle up and to stay buckled.
• 44:23
  Yeah, and then she just fores it.
• 44:24
  She thinks that she can outrun this cop.
• 44:27
  But like, what is this cop? Like, that's her daughter.
• 44:30
  Like, what's the cop going to do?
• 44:32
  Unless. Unless Christopher filed A
• 44:35
  kidnapping. Yeah.
• 44:37
  Which I. Don't think was the case.
• 44:38
  Yeah. If it was, it wasn't ever shown
• 44:41
  or said. But yeah, like she just decided,
• 44:45
  she becomes immediately suspicious and force it, and
• 44:48
  this starts a chase. She turns down the way that
• 44:52
  marks Silent Hill. However, once they approach a
• 44:54
  bridge, there's a gate that she drives right through, crosses
• 44:58
  the bridge, and as soon as she crosses the bridge, she sees
• 45:00
  what looks like a person in the middle of the road.
• 45:03
  She swerves, ends up wrecking, knocks herself out on the
• 45:06
  steering wheel. Yep and when she comes to it's
• 45:10
  foggy and what I assumed was snow at first but actually it's
• 45:13
  ash. Sharon is gone so she walks to
• 45:17
  town and everything seems empty and dude look up like abandoned
• 45:23
  towns on YouTube. This shit actually does happen.
• 45:27
  It's really scary, but remember the one video we watched about
• 45:30
  the abandoned grocery store? Yeah, it's gross.
• 45:33
  Yeah, it's really nasty. So those are real things that
• 45:36
  happen and we hear like a klaxon siren go off and darkness just
• 45:45
  like descends super quickly. At first I did not realize that
• 45:47
  this was darkness descending. I thought it was like a
• 45:49
  transition, a scene transition. That's what I thought was, too.
• 45:52
  Yeah. She, she saw what looked like
• 45:54
  Sharon in the distance and chase after her.
• 45:56
  And she LED her down these stairs.
• 45:58
  And as she went down to the bottom of the stairs, it kind of
• 46:01
  got dark. And it looks like she's in an
• 46:03
  old warehouse. And then once I learned that
• 46:05
  this town was a mining town and had mining fires, I assumed
• 46:08
  maybe this was meant to more like to like the mines that.
• 46:11
  'D be an interesting way to do that directly underneath the
• 46:15
  town, Yeah, interesting. That was just kind of my like
• 46:19
  assumption. I don't.
• 46:20
  I also don't know what mines look like on the inside.
• 46:22
  I'm only informed by movies and I don't know how I care what the
• 46:26
  movies are. I, I don't know if that's what
• 46:29
  they're going for here or not, but it's spooky down there.
• 46:32
  She's wandering around and she sees.
• 46:35
  Someone mounted on a fence. Yeah.
• 46:38
  With barbed wire and nastiness. And then she's chased by these
• 46:41
  like mulling mutants that are just burning from the inside
• 46:45
  out. Yeah, they were like babies.
• 46:48
  I think they were like toddlers at least.
• 46:52
  And they chase her into this. Room.
• 46:54
  And as soon as they get her surrounded, they all just burn
• 46:58
  up until ashes or whatever and dissipate.
• 47:02
  And then Sharon, I don't know, Rose.
• 47:05
  Rose immediately. No, I agree with you.
• 47:07
  Because Rose is a child's name. Sharon is an adult's name.
• 47:09
  Yeah, you can't have a child named Sharon.
• 47:10
  What the hell? It's hard.
• 47:12
  It's hard. I keep getting confused which I
• 47:14
  say that knowing is Sharon, but I know that Sharon is an adult.
• 47:16
  That's true. I never.
• 47:18
  I don't believe she was. I don't believe she was Sharon
• 47:20
  when she was a child, probably. Not if you are.
• 47:25
  She wakes up and it's daytime again.
• 47:28
  It's no longer dark out and Ring of Fire is playing on the radio.
• 47:32
  Yeah, which we now know the significance of that as a song,
• 47:39
  but before it's just like people in West Virginia listen to
• 47:44
  Johnny Cash. Yeah, you know, he bops down
• 47:47
  there. People like.
• 47:48
  Him, he bops everywhere. Honestly, that's true.
• 47:51
  She's now in a bowling alley. This is where she's waking up.
• 47:54
  It's in a bowling alley. She runs outside and to the
• 47:59
  literal edge of town where there's a woman named Dalia.
• 48:03
  And Dalia saying that she has also lost her daughter.
• 48:06
  Everybody has lost their children.
• 48:08
  Hers was Alessa. And Rose has a Locket with
• 48:11
  Sharon's picture in it. And she's like, well, this is my
• 48:13
  daughter, have you seen her? And Dalia says, that's mine,
• 48:15
  She's mine. Christopher.
• 48:18
  Meanwhile, in another dimension, he is at a gas station.
• 48:22
  And he asked the mechanic where Silent Hill is.
• 48:26
  He says it's closed due to a fire that had happened and the
• 48:32
  mines under the town and it created toxic fumes and nobody
• 48:35
  could survive them. Underground coal fire sounds
• 48:37
  badass. The fact that it's still burning
• 48:40
  is crazy. Yeah, also like that would be a
• 48:43
  cool band name. Underground coal fire.
• 48:45
  Coal fire? Yeah, that would be Rose makes
• 48:48
  it back to her car. She tries to call Chris on her
• 48:52
  end. She feels like she gets through,
• 48:53
  but we're going to see later. Chris listens to the message and
• 48:56
  it's just. Jumbled.
• 48:58
  Yeah, her car won't start and then Sybil pops up and is
• 49:03
  bleeding from her helmet and this is the first moment where I
• 49:06
  was like, I feel like maybe they're not all 100% alive
• 49:09
  anymore cuz she and hit her head pretty hard inside that helmet.
• 49:15
  Yeah, I don't entirely know. OK, here I'm just gonna read the
• 49:19
  thing. OK all right, this seems like a
• 49:21
  good place to put this thing cuz this is like I said, this is
• 49:24
  where I started having my understanding but things were
• 49:27
  not 100% what they. Seemed OK, this is all just like
• 49:29
  a snapshot from the Wikipedia article.
• 49:31
  OK, so I'm just gonna read it as is.
• 49:35
  An integral part of Silent Hill universe is the reality and
• 49:38
  unreality of the city. Silent Hill exists
• 49:40
  simultaneously in four different variations.
• 49:43
  The city of the 70's, the Silent Hill of Present, Silent Hill in
• 49:47
  the fog, and Silent Hill in the darkness.
• 49:50
  Two of the above measurements are based on temporal changes.
• 49:52
  One represents the city of 30 years ago and is used only in
• 49:56
  flashbacks. The other displays the current
• 49:58
  state of the city, to which Christopher goes in search of
• 50:00
  his wife and daughter. The 2 remaining dimensions
• 50:03
  include a foggy day in which Rose searches for her daughter,
• 50:06
  symbolizing purgatory, and a gloomy day consisting of
• 50:09
  enveloping darkness, which is the embodiment of hell.
• 50:13
  Gaines reported that in his work he discovered to or he tried to
• 50:16
  discover new dimensions of the space and time in metaphysical
• 50:19
  and mystical aspects. He stated We're not trying to
• 50:22
  explain everything. As I prefer people to find
• 50:24
  meaning in the story themselves. It is much more pleasant to
• 50:27
  enjoy the understatement. It's kind of a playful
• 50:30
  invitation to be smart. So it's kind of up to your
• 50:33
  interpretation. But you were kind of right with
• 50:36
  what the game was saying, where it's a purgatory and then there
• 50:40
  is hell whenever the darkness comes.
• 50:42
  And then, yeah, I guess they are dead at this point because, I
• 50:46
  mean. There's a pretty nasty crashes
• 50:49
  for all three of them. Yeah.
• 50:50
  So. OK.
• 50:54
  All right, then. All right.
• 50:56
  Sybil carries. Not that she is dead only, but
• 51:00
  Rose has broken the law. Yeah.
• 51:02
  Yeah. So she tries to arrest.
• 51:04
  Her and after death she tries to uphold the law.
• 51:08
  And they she talks about this. This was something that I wish
• 51:12
  we had a little bit. They kept talking about this
• 51:14
  kidnapper that dropped a boy down event.
• 51:16
  And I thought we were going to get more pay off for that
• 51:18
  because Sybil mentions it and Gucci Mane mentions it.
• 51:21
  Yeah. And that's all it is just
• 51:24
  mentioning. And I thought because it was the
• 51:26
  same case that was brought over again and again that it would
• 51:28
  have more significance. I.
• 51:29
  Think they were only doing that because of like why Sybil is so
• 51:33
  invested, why she wanted to make sure the kid was OK because she
• 51:38
  was trying to save a kid at one point.
• 51:41
  And I she probably felt responsible for that child
• 51:45
  because they they talked about how hard Sybil took the whole
• 51:48
  thing whenever that originally happened.
• 51:51
  So I think that just is like why she's caring so much about Rose.
• 51:54
  Rose, fuck Sharon, I get that, and if she had left it as just
• 51:58
  her telling them that would be fine, but it's just weird that
• 52:01
  that's the same story that yeah, gets retold later.
• 52:04
  Yeah, like. So she tries to make the call on
• 52:07
  her radio and that's not working.
• 52:10
  They are going to walk back to Bram's and the road stops.
• 52:16
  I wish they'd just done what Rose and Sharon do at the end
• 52:20
  and just. They could have.
• 52:21
  Continued on. Which is kind of cool because
• 52:23
  like that's just like, it's a hidden Rd. there.
• 52:26
  You could have kept going, but they just didn't think they
• 52:28
  could. Yeah, so she's like, well,
• 52:31
  there's a radio tower over there, and that's where we're
• 52:33
  going to go to. And Rose is like, you don't
• 52:36
  understand, My daughter's a sleepwalker.
• 52:38
  She's lost somewhere in this town.
• 52:39
  We have to find her. And then we have a monster just
• 52:44
  come out of nowhere and approaches Sybil and it starts
• 52:48
  erupting blood that is also acid.
• 52:50
  Yeah. Gets her helmet and starts to
• 52:53
  like disintegrate it, so she tosses that off and just lights
• 52:55
  it up and instead. Yeah, and in the middle of this
• 52:59
  fight, Rose runs off. She makes it to school and finds
• 53:02
  a flashlight. Then we cut back to the present
• 53:07
  day dimension. We got Gucci with Chris and they
• 53:11
  try and make a call or they drive through the town and
• 53:15
  they're calling from like a megaphone or whatever on the car
• 53:18
  to Rose. Gucci's doing the talking and
• 53:21
  Chris is like, why wouldn't you want me to do the talking if
• 53:23
  you're trying to find her? And Gucci goes 9 times out of 10
• 53:26
  when a woman, her child, run away from the husband without
• 53:28
  telling him about it, it's because they were trying to get
• 53:30
  away from him. And Chris, like I can guarantee
• 53:34
  you that's what's happening here.
• 53:35
  And Gucci's like that's what they all say it.
• 53:38
  Doesn't sound like it's very Gucci and the Christopher
• 53:41
  Allisol does it? The De Silva.
• 53:46
  So Rose hears the sound and starts to investigate.
• 53:49
  She sees inside one of the classrooms that there are
• 53:53
  handprints on the desk. Yes, and underneath the
• 53:56
  handprints like in the desk was carved which.
• 53:59
  Yeah, and she also sees some paperwork from somebody named
• 54:02
  Alyssa. We learn that she grew up in
• 54:06
  this town and it all was evacuated after a fire in the
• 54:11
  coal mines, supposedly. But things happen so fast and
• 54:15
  everybody was evacuated so quickly, and a lot of people
• 54:17
  didn't make it out in time. And the fire was so bad that,
• 54:21
  like, bodies weren't ever even fully recovered.
• 54:25
  Rose in the school is trying to find, is trying to catch up to
• 54:28
  this little girl who she keeps seeing glimpses of and she ends
• 54:32
  up running into. I can't.
• 54:35
  Oh, yeah. Well, she's in the bathroom
• 54:37
  first. She's in the bathroom.
• 54:38
  She sees somebody again, like bound up.
• 54:43
  And, yeah, barbed wire. It has, like, the message
• 54:45
  written above. It's like a double dare you.
• 54:47
  Yeah. And then she, like, reaches in
• 54:48
  and grabs something from its mouth.
• 54:50
  Yeah. It's like a little note in
• 54:51
  there. Yes, and it was like a sign for
• 54:53
  a motel and she's about to leave the bathroom.
• 54:56
  There are what looked to be, I was kind of referring to them as
• 54:59
  hunters. They're in miners, coal miners
• 55:03
  gear, and it seems like they're hunting, It seems like they're
• 55:06
  doing something in the purpose of like this daytime version of.
• 55:11
  They're like scavenging or something.
• 55:13
  Probably trying to like stay alive while it's daylight.
• 55:16
  Yeah. And so she doesn't want to go
• 55:18
  out there with them because she doesn't, she doesn't know who
• 55:20
  they are. So she is.
• 55:24
  She walks herself in the bathroom and as she locks
• 55:27
  herself, the thing that was in the stall comes to life and
• 55:31
  crawls out. The well, so we, we're starting
• 55:35
  to get hints that these these people are from this place
• 55:38
  because they have a Canary with them.
• 55:39
  Again, we've got that mining imagery.
• 55:41
  The Canary starts acting up and they're like, OK, we got to get
• 55:44
  out of here. Then we have that klaxon going
• 55:45
  off again, and then the wall just seems like it's kind of
• 55:49
  changing the the person that was in the bathroom stall comes out
• 55:53
  and is making its way down the hall and it's like basically
• 55:57
  infecting the wall in the floor is how I wrote it.
• 55:59
  I wrote it as like corrupting. Like everything it touches, it
• 56:01
  corrupts. Yeah.
• 56:03
  It becomes kind of rusty, but it also is like the imagery of
• 56:07
  everything on the wall is like it's going up in flames, Yes,
• 56:09
  like a piece of paper, like it just is just being engulfed.
• 56:13
  And so Rose runs, and she sees the minor hunters.
• 56:17
  Oh, that sounds bad. She sees the hunters being eaten
• 56:21
  by not rats, but giant roaches it.
• 56:27
  Yeah, sorry, I just not got what you were talking about with
• 56:29
  minor hunters. Yeah, that was that's it looks
• 56:35
  different on my paper. It's a very unfortunate
• 56:41
  homophone. I'm sorry, OK.
• 56:43
  Yeah, there's some. Big, big roaches down there.
• 56:46
  So she sees Sharon Alessa, small child drawing, drawing that
• 56:54
  she'd made, and then she sees the child itself who falls and
• 56:58
  then Pyramid Head pops up. Then we're having some like
• 57:02
  interstitial link between Rose and Chris in the same spots of
• 57:06
  the town. Yeah, she runs past where he's
• 57:09
  standing and he's like, I felt something, Like I there's
• 57:13
  something there. And I caught a whiff of her
• 57:15
  perfume, too. She's around here somewhere, so
• 57:18
  there's some kind of connection here still.
• 57:20
  If I were in a different dimension, do you think you
• 57:22
  would be able to sense me? Yes, definitely.
• 57:24
  Do you think you'd smell my perfume?
• 57:26
  Yeah, I think I could. OK, Yeah.
• 57:30
  You better. Oh yeah.
• 57:32
  There's a good chance this could happen.
• 57:34
  I sleepwalk. I know I'm prepared.
• 57:36
  We're so close to why? Do you think that I chose this
• 57:39
  movie? Yeah.
• 57:44
  And Gucci's like, that's not Gucci, dude.
• 57:46
  That's just not happening, bro. I just like the idea of like,
• 57:52
  yeah. We were talking about our now
• 57:56
  old ass slang this morning because our nephew. 6/7.
• 58:01
  Yeah, he wrote Brownie 6-7 and we were laughing.
• 58:03
  And the Travis goes, actually, that's new, new generation
• 58:07
  slang. I actually said it without like,
• 58:09
  it's like, it's what the kids are saying, these kids.
• 58:12
  Like, I mean, we died a little inside.
• 58:13
  I hate that I had to say it like that, but yeah, like that's what
• 58:16
  the kids, the children are saying.
• 58:18
  I hate that you had to say it, but also at the same time my
• 58:20
  body hurts just from going to a festival for a few hours
• 58:23
  yesterday. I know.
• 58:25
  Yeah, we're. We're decrepit.
• 58:27
  We are. Throw us in the purgatory, the
• 58:30
  roaches come for Rose and Sybil saves her and they remove the
• 58:35
  cuffs and then pyramid head just like cuts through that door like
• 58:37
  it's nothing with his giant ass blade.
• 58:39
  Yeah, he's got the Buster Sword. And they're just basically doing
• 58:43
  all they can to avoid being hit by him and the roaches that are
• 58:46
  crawling in die and the building rebuilds itself.
• 58:50
  Yeah, shoots up his arm too. He like removes the little wok
• 58:53
  thing but I. Think I really thought we would
• 58:55
  see more of him in this movie. Yeah, he's a big figure, but I
• 59:00
  don't know if he has like a lot of story behind him.
• 59:04
  I don't know. I've not played the game so I
• 59:05
  can't say it one way or another. Rose says that they need to find
• 59:09
  Sharon before the darkness happens again.
• 59:12
  And Sybil's like, Yep, all right, I'm, you know, I I
• 59:15
  believe you now that something weird is happening because.
• 59:18
  Yeah. Yeah, I mean, can you?
• 59:20
  Can't argue this. Stomp a big ass fucking rose
• 59:24
  Rose. Roach, so Gucci tells Chris that
• 59:29
  the cops will stay back South Hill.
• 59:31
  Don't come back. Don't do it.
• 59:36
  Don't, and instead Chris calls to try and get archives from
• 59:42
  Silent Hill. It's like the county.
• 59:43
  Yeah, yeah, he's trying to figure out what went down.
• 59:46
  There and they're like we cannot give those to you it's.
• 59:48
  Classified so he gets big mad. FOIA.
• 59:53
  Yeah, Freedom of Information, buddy.
• 59:56
  Rose and Sybil hear Anna yelling at Dalia saying Dalia was cast
• 1:00:02
  out and that designers just and that sinners deserve to lose
• 1:00:07
  their spawn. Damn, pretty harsh.
• 1:00:10
  Damn, religious fanaticism is not kind.
• 1:00:13
  It is not. Christabella keeps her safe and
• 1:00:17
  they have refuge in the church and where they're yelling at
• 1:00:21
  Rose finds more hotel peace clues and finds a drawing in a
• 1:00:26
  box for room 111. Meanwhile, Chris, which if
• 1:00:33
  you're going to have it by a guy named Chris de Bella, why
• 1:00:35
  couldn't we have given generic white dude any other generic
• 1:00:39
  white dude name? Dave, Like Sean Bean.
• 1:00:43
  Seen Bean, His name is already super generic.
• 1:00:45
  Let him be. Let him be Sean.
• 1:00:47
  Yeah. You know what's funny though?
• 1:00:49
  The whole thing about his character is like, he always
• 1:00:51
  dies and people make fun of him for that, but he's the only one
• 1:00:53
  that lives here. He's like he's the left one in
• 1:00:55
  the living world. He breaks into the Bram's
• 1:01:00
  Archives building and finds a bunch of like, burnt files that
• 1:01:05
  were never like they're just sitting in a room.
• 1:01:07
  That room has to smell. Accurate.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah. Are we sure this isn't in the
• 1:01:12
  fucking Texas County where Texas Chainsaw Massacre goes?
• 1:01:17
  Well, there were newspaper clippings in these these
• 1:01:21
  archives. Maybe he just moved to another
• 1:01:23
  department. Yeah, in West Virginia, he finds
• 1:01:26
  a photo of Alessa, who looks just like Sharon, with notes of
• 1:01:30
  kidnapping and assault. And he goes.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, so he calls the orphanage and he's like, all right, give
• 1:01:37
  me the address. And they're like, we cannot do
• 1:01:40
  that. Well, he goes to the orphanage
• 1:01:42
  before they say that, but there is no room 111 in this hotel.
• 1:01:47
  The founder of the But they do find out that the founders of
• 1:01:49
  the town were witch hunters and this makes Rose mad.
• 1:01:53
  So she decides to destroy art, and behind the art she notices.
• 1:01:57
  Behind the art there was a very similar drawing to what Sharon
• 1:02:02
  had done. She's like, this is it.
• 1:02:04
  It's got to be behind there. Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  And so she cuts through it. There's room 111, so they go in
• 1:02:09
  there, which then takes them to windows.
• 1:02:12
  They have to like, jump between buildings into different
• 1:02:15
  windows. Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  Sees the little girl crying. Yeah, and she tries to go
• 1:02:23
  towards her and then she emulates and Sybil and Anna
• 1:02:28
  managed to catch up with her and Rose says that it was a lesser
• 1:02:32
  that caused the crash. And Anna says they don't speak
• 1:02:35
  that name. Then we start hearing birds
• 1:02:37
  going come on, and Anna says darkness is coming, must run to
• 1:02:41
  the church refuge. And as they're getting there,
• 1:02:43
  the siren starts playing. The siren is coming from the
• 1:02:45
  church. So that was interesting to me
• 1:02:49
  that the church actually established that siren system.
• 1:02:52
  Yeah. I just assumed the town was just
• 1:02:55
  like. I did too, honestly, yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Cuz you got supernatural spooky stuff.
• 1:03:00
  Why wouldn't that have a klaxon going off?
• 1:03:02
  Yeah, I'm also surprised we got an explanation at all.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah. And they're going up the step,
• 1:03:08
  like so many people come in through the fog, so everybody's
• 1:03:11
  been out scavenging. And they're all very well aware
• 1:03:14
  that they don't want to be out there when the darkness happens.
• 1:03:16
  They are safe inside the church because their beliefs are so
• 1:03:20
  strong. And as they're there, Rose and
• 1:03:24
  Dolly are on the stairs, the steps, and she's trying to get
• 1:03:29
  some more information and I'm trying to get Dalia to come
• 1:03:31
  inside. Too, Dalia says that they are
• 1:03:33
  liars, but Rose is like still trying to talk to her and get
• 1:03:37
  more information out of her. Anna is out there with Sybil
• 1:03:41
  Rocks. Yeah, she.
• 1:03:42
  Just can't help herself. And Sybil is trying to get Rose
• 1:03:46
  to hurry up because, like, darkness is coming.
• 1:03:49
  And then Pyramid Head is right behind.
• 1:03:51
  Anna grabs her, pulls her skin off, flips her inside out.
• 1:03:57
  Holy shit the way he just like yoinks the skin off of her is so
• 1:04:01
  clean. It's just damn.
• 1:04:03
  I feel like the she had to have been like raised in this cult.
• 1:04:06
  So yeah, surely I feel bad for her.
• 1:04:08
  And at at least it was a quick ending, I hope.
• 1:04:12
  It was probably extremely painful for that moment though.
• 1:04:16
  I can't. Like I don't know how the
• 1:04:18
  purgatory rules work for her here, but that's.
• 1:04:20
  True. Is she dead then?
• 1:04:22
  I don't know. He might have been doing her a
• 1:04:23
  favor. I don't know.
• 1:04:26
  So they they go inside and because Rosa and Sybil are
• 1:04:30
  outsiders, everybody starts accusing them of being witches.
• 1:04:34
  And Christa Bella says Anna was not killed because of them.
• 1:04:39
  She was killed because she ignored their law.
• 1:04:41
  Right now we will pray for her and then we will deal with these
• 1:04:44
  outsiders. Now Chris is at the orphanage
• 1:04:47
  and they won't give any information.
• 1:04:51
  Gucci Mane's there and he says, Chris, you did a really bad job
• 1:04:53
  cleaning up after yourself outside of the archives.
• 1:04:56
  I'm going to have to, like, book you for trespassing there and
• 1:04:58
  here if you don't want to leave now.
• 1:05:01
  And hands up cuffing him anyway. And he says that he knew Alyssa.
• 1:05:06
  He was told that she didn't survive what happened to her in
• 1:05:09
  the fire. And he says it wasn't the town
• 1:05:11
  fire. It was something that fanatics
• 1:05:14
  did to her. 30 years ago. Christabella, Rose, Sybil and
• 1:05:19
  the hunters all go to the hotel because Rose was explained that
• 1:05:24
  they're looking for her. Daughter, they yeah, they say
• 1:05:26
  that the demon knows where she is, and you have to ask the
• 1:05:30
  demon if you want to know. So they agree that at least take
• 1:05:32
  her to where that is, but they're not going to go with
• 1:05:34
  her. They're just there to show her
• 1:05:36
  where she needs to be. And they show her, you know, how
• 1:05:38
  like all hotels, they have to have like the exit maps up there
• 1:05:41
  for you. So that way, you know, like the
• 1:05:43
  eager says if there is a fire and she says memorize this map,
• 1:05:47
  you need to go to B 151. That's where the darkness lays.
• 1:05:50
  It hides behind the face of an innocent.
• 1:05:52
  So don't be fooled. And Rosa's in there trying to
• 1:05:55
  memorize the map. Sybil's like, something's weird
• 1:05:59
  with this, like they're trying to like sacrifice you.
• 1:06:02
  Are you sure about this? And Rosa's like I.
• 1:06:05
  Memorizing every like turn like left, right, right, left, you
• 1:06:08
  know, like. I wish I had gotten a better
• 1:06:10
  look at the map myself because it looks like it's.
• 1:06:13
  Pretty complicated it. Just looks like a grade system.
• 1:06:15
  It didn't look like an actual maze.
• 1:06:17
  I feel like she could have just gone because this is the back
• 1:06:19
  corner. Like she just had to go.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, and when we see her actually navigating, it kind of
• 1:06:26
  feels like that's what she did. Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  And she honestly, it makes me think of, like, the people who
• 1:06:30
  do the Rubik's cubes, like, they have the, like, steps memorized
• 1:06:33
  to get them well done. That's what she's doing.
• 1:06:37
  Yeah. And then Christabel was like,
• 1:06:39
  hey, we're scavengers. And I'm really sorry.
• 1:06:43
  So I just wanted to give you this necklace back.
• 1:06:45
  We took it when it fell from you.
• 1:06:48
  And as she's handing it over, the Locket pops open.
• 1:06:51
  And it's Sharon, who looks like Alyssa.
• 1:06:54
  And then they're like, witch. She's a witch and Sybil starts
• 1:06:58
  fighting the hunters and Christabella and sends Rose
• 1:07:02
  plunging down in an elevator. Yeah, this also felt like a
• 1:07:06
  video game moment right here. Like cutscene boom, I'll handle
• 1:07:09
  the people. Here you go and do the spooky
• 1:07:11
  stuff. Yep, and that's pretty much what
• 1:07:14
  is happening, except. The Sybil ran out of ammo.
• 1:07:16
  She only had one bullet. Yeah, and she clicks her gun.
• 1:07:20
  They noticed. So they just start beating the
• 1:07:22
  shit out of. Her.
• 1:07:23
  Yep. So Rose is down there.
• 1:07:25
  She's taking her turns and she runs into the nurses.
• 1:07:28
  She was warned that her flashlight would give off good
• 1:07:32
  light, but it would draw them into her.
• 1:07:36
  I'm sorry if you guys are hearing that.
• 1:07:37
  In the background, our neighbors are trimming their trees.
• 1:07:39
  They've been doing it all weekend.
• 1:07:41
  This is the first time they've done it in daylight, so we're
• 1:07:43
  grateful for that. Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  So she runs into the nurses and she's like, oh, OK, turn off the
• 1:07:50
  light. It calms them down.
• 1:07:51
  And then she's trying to like sneak through them.
• 1:07:53
  But thankfully, like, I always hate it when you see in a movie
• 1:07:58
  like they're like, OK, well, they only respond to the light.
• 1:08:00
  And I'm like, I feel like they would have other because not
• 1:08:04
  everybody's you. Most people have appropriative
• 1:08:07
  senses. What does that mean?
• 1:08:09
  Proprioception is like your sense of things around you.
• 1:08:13
  Hey, I have those. It's just sometimes I don't.
• 1:08:18
  Look, you brag about it all the time, but you lack that when
• 1:08:21
  you're in a store. OK.
• 1:08:24
  I like this moment, though. I like the it's a really intense
• 1:08:27
  scene with her having to like slowly move through this whole
• 1:08:30
  sea of nurses there. And they're like, they're not
• 1:08:33
  going anywhere, but they're still active, kind of they're
• 1:08:36
  like twitchy, yes. And one of them does sense that
• 1:08:40
  she's there and they do a swipe and they accidentally end up
• 1:08:44
  cutting the throat of one of the nurses, which causes a whole.
• 1:08:46
  Chamber just start cutting each other and she's like, I'm just
• 1:08:50
  going to see through. Yeah, honestly worked out in her
• 1:08:53
  favor there. That's pretty smooth.
• 1:08:55
  So Rose makes it to the light and Alessa says she will reward
• 1:08:58
  her with the truth. Alessa was told she was bad
• 1:09:01
  because she was fatherless. The town and the family made her
• 1:09:04
  feel scared and they were also scared of her.
• 1:09:07
  So they were going to do a ritual to fight the sin.
• 1:09:10
  They took Alessa away from her mom.
• 1:09:12
  Her mom agreed to it because she believed that they were just
• 1:09:16
  purifying her. They didn't know what they were
• 1:09:17
  planning. Instead, what they did was they
• 1:09:19
  put her over hot coals. However, while she was over the
• 1:09:25
  coals, it was knocked over and it started the fire that took
• 1:09:28
  down the town. Dalia got help, but it was too
• 1:09:32
  late. The fire was already going by
• 1:09:33
  the time she came back with assistance, which included
• 1:09:36
  Officer Kuchiman. Alessa was in pain, and the pain
• 1:09:42
  led to hate, and the hate bred the darkness, and the darkness
• 1:09:45
  promised to pull the mind into her.
• 1:09:48
  Darkest dream says that Alessa needs her help.
• 1:09:53
  What they want is their satisfaction.
• 1:09:56
  What their satisfaction is, is revenge.
• 1:09:58
  Sharon is what's left of Alessa's goodness in the world
• 1:10:02
  and. Yeah, that's good, Alessa.
• 1:10:03
  And then what we're speaking to right now is referred to as Dark
• 1:10:06
  Oessa. She says that Christabella plans
• 1:10:10
  to purify Sharon, so she needs to get back there, and Dark
• 1:10:14
  Alessa cannot get into the church because the blind
• 1:10:17
  conviction prevents her from entering, so she has to go
• 1:10:20
  inside of rows. And she means that quite
• 1:10:22
  literally. She like melds with her.
• 1:10:25
  Yeah, she actually does, Yeah. So we see Sharon hiding from
• 1:10:31
  hunters in she found she found a place to sleep for her.
• 1:10:36
  But God damn fucking Dalia, she was not.
• 1:10:40
  She just. She was there to protect her.
• 1:10:42
  Actually. She like the people the the
• 1:10:45
  minor hunters who are actually hunting for a minor right now
• 1:10:48
  are like they're trying to get her and Dalia's like no, leave
• 1:10:53
  her alone. Leave her alone except when when
• 1:10:57
  Sharon goes to hide, Dalia follows her so they're able to
• 1:11:00
  find her so easily. Gucci retells the story about
• 1:11:07
  the boy being thrown down the vent to reiterate that Sybil is
• 1:11:10
  doing all she can to find Sharon and Roz.
• 1:11:12
  OK but we cut 2. Sybil being tied to a ladder and
• 1:11:20
  there is a fire in the middle of the church.
• 1:11:22
  Sharon is also tied up. It's scary moment, yeah.
• 1:11:28
  And they tip the ladder, they don't put them directly in the
• 1:11:31
  flame, they roast them over top of the flame.
• 1:11:34
  Like your skin is just slowly pulling.
• 1:11:36
  That's worse. It is way worse.
• 1:11:38
  That's what I was thinking. Like it would be really
• 1:11:40
  excruciating to just like fall face first into the flame.
• 1:11:43
  But like, that's the slow, painful method, right?
• 1:11:46
  There, Yeah, it's bullshit. And they're about to do the same
• 1:11:48
  to Sharon. They made sure she saw it, They
• 1:11:50
  made sure she was scared. And there was this creep of a
• 1:11:53
  man that was holding Sharon before she got tied up that was
• 1:11:56
  like looking at her, like he's like almost drooling.
• 1:11:58
  He was so excited to see how scared she was.
• 1:12:00
  Gross. Well, as they're about to tip
• 1:12:03
  Sharon over, Rose enters. And she tells them Chris Bell
• 1:12:08
  lied to you all. She said you guys had to stay
• 1:12:10
  here because of the apocalypse. She said y'all need to burn
• 1:12:12
  children because of the apocalypse.
• 1:12:14
  It's all a lie. I like how throughout this
• 1:12:16
  entire scene she's like spitting truth and everybody's like
• 1:12:19
  trying to get in her way, but she just like shoves them off
• 1:12:21
  and every time that happens, they all back.
• 1:12:23
  I'm like, you know, like everybody's like, like they're
• 1:12:26
  respecting the power right here. And she walks up to confront
• 1:12:32
  Christabella, and Christabella stabs her.
• 1:12:35
  Yeah, she keeps saying burn her, burn her.
• 1:12:38
  And as rose bleeds, darkness descends.
• 1:12:42
  Because they're the less that comes out.
• 1:12:47
  We have this imagery of like, cuz everybody's just being
• 1:12:52
  attacked, right? Like it's pandemonium.
• 1:12:55
  They're all getting the, the vengeance cast upon them.
• 1:12:58
  And there's a moment where Crystabella is held up by like
• 1:13:02
  the barbed wires and everything. And I can't help but feel that
• 1:13:07
  the the writers and animators for Futurama were inspired by
• 1:13:13
  that. Because that's exactly what Frye
• 1:13:15
  looks like in the Beast of 1000. Backs when he's got the when
• 1:13:18
  he's the Tentacle Pope. Yeah, you're right.
• 1:13:20
  Like, it's that, it's that exact same imagery.
• 1:13:23
  Yeah, man, See, I was thinking of Hellraiser too, with Doctor
• 1:13:27
  Maynard, that guy. Yeah.
• 1:13:30
  And being just kind of like get the things in his bag and just
• 1:13:34
  hold him up. I feel like it's very Hellraiser
• 1:13:38
  imagery right here, but. There's also like a little bit
• 1:13:41
  of Evil Dead imagery cuz Barb Byron's right.
• 1:13:44
  Up. Right up there.
• 1:13:45
  Oh boy. Yeah.
• 1:13:48
  And Dalia sees darkness, and she goes, What have you become?
• 1:13:53
  Yeah. Rose holds Sharon and then we
• 1:13:55
  get more darkness and then light.
• 1:13:59
  They start to leave the church. Dolly is the only one left.
• 1:14:02
  And she was like, why did she spare me?
• 1:14:04
  She said Mother's God in the eyes of child.
• 1:14:08
  And then Dolly is like, what? What?
• 1:14:11
  But they don't hear because they're walking back to their
• 1:14:13
  car and the car starts and they get to the edge of the road and
• 1:14:19
  Rose is like, well, you can't be any more dead than we already
• 1:14:22
  are. And but there's still Rd. there
• 1:14:26
  and mad. Just imagine if they've done
• 1:14:27
  that in the first place. Yeah, I know.
• 1:14:30
  I like that, though. I feel like that was like a cool
• 1:14:32
  little secret thing. She calls Chris and she's
• 1:14:34
  leaving a message on the answering machine, and all we
• 1:14:37
  can hear on the answering machine is static.
• 1:14:39
  And Chris is just. He takes a depression nap on the
• 1:14:42
  on the couch and it's light but it's rainy but it feels real.
• 1:14:50
  And then we keep cutting back to Rose and Sharon in the car and
• 1:14:53
  they're just driving through fog the whole way, and they get to
• 1:14:56
  the house and it's dark and it's empty and.
• 1:15:00
  All foggy. Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  And they go inside and they sit down in the chairs looking at
• 1:15:05
  the couch where Christopher is sleeping.
• 1:15:07
  Christopher gets the sense that somebody's there, gets out, the
• 1:15:10
  door is open. So do they have some kind of
• 1:15:14
  impact on the real world around Christopher here?
• 1:15:17
  It seems like maybe Or maybe Christopher just forgot to close
• 1:15:20
  the door. But you know what we don't
• 1:15:21
  fucking know? Because it's how this movie ends
• 1:15:23
  it. Just sends.
• 1:15:24
  There's no after credits, there's no nothing.
• 1:15:26
  And then you have to wait six years for Silent Hill
• 1:15:29
  Revelations. Did they call it Revelations
• 1:15:32
  because they reveal everyone, Reveal all?
• 1:15:34
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:15:36
  I don't think I've seen that one actually.
• 1:15:39
  I need to see it. I need.
• 1:15:40
  I need answers. Well, I got good news.
• 1:15:42
  It's also on Peacock. OK, good.
• 1:15:43
  Yeah, so we can watch it. You can watch it if you need to,
• 1:15:47
  or you can be just as confused as we are in this moment, and we
• 1:15:51
  can all just share the confusion.
• 1:15:54
  But that's the movie. That's how it ends.
• 1:15:56
  That's how it goes. Jesse, do you change your
• 1:15:58
  review? Absolutely not OK.
• 1:16:00
  I think it's still 9. I think it's a very good movie,
• 1:16:03
  good pacing, good spookiness. OK I'm keeping mine 8.52.
• 1:16:10
  I agree with you man, Ned did a lot really well.
• 1:16:14
  What would you change? I like being a little bit
• 1:16:18
  confused, but I also like having things cleared up.
• 1:16:21
  OK, you know, like give something.
• 1:16:24
  A little bit. So you don't get what Gaines
• 1:16:26
  calls the joy of being smart. Oh, I'm not smart.
• 1:16:30
  So no, like don't invite me to be smart because no, it's just
• 1:16:35
  that's an invitation. I have to decline, Sir, I'm
• 1:16:37
  sorry. I also just don't feel like the
• 1:16:42
  the exposition dump at the end was the best way to handle that.
• 1:16:46
  I don't know. I feel like.
• 1:16:47
  They they wrote an hour and 45 minutes a movie and they're
• 1:16:50
  like. They can't sell it anymore.
• 1:16:53
  Yeah. It was just, it was a lot like,
• 1:16:55
  I think that they were like dumping that for like 7 minutes
• 1:16:59
  straight, you know, it was just, you could have told some of that
• 1:17:03
  throughout when we were just getting a lot of like creepy
• 1:17:06
  imagery. But we weren't really.
• 1:17:09
  We were picking up a lot of visual clues.
• 1:17:11
  But you can only tell so much from that.
• 1:17:13
  You got to be able to at least explain some of it too.
• 1:17:16
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:17:18
  What did Talia think? Talia was staring out the window
• 1:17:21
  the whole time. Talia has seen fog.
• 1:17:23
  She has seen sunlight. She prefers sunlight.
• 1:17:26
  I think this was spooky for her. Yeah, Talia, I think she had a
• 1:17:31
  pretty strong reaction to, I think the one that had the
• 1:17:35
  strongest. So we don't have a segment for
• 1:17:36
  her on these, but Scout will love this movie.
• 1:17:38
  Scout. SAT between us the entire movie
• 1:17:42
  and she was right between us. Head perked up.
• 1:17:46
  We'll pause in front of her. She would do the TV, she would
• 1:17:48
  do things like she would hop down to get some water, but then
• 1:17:51
  she would come right back into place and then she.
• 1:17:53
  Watched the TV, it sounded like something exciting was
• 1:17:55
  happening. She would scurry in.
• 1:17:57
  Yeah, yeah. She was big into this movie.
• 1:18:00
  But Talia, I think Talia is going to give this A7.
• 1:18:05
  That's what I was thinking. Because all dogs go to heaven.
• 1:18:08
  Yeah, and this movie had too much hell.
• 1:18:11
  Yeah, so we need to put some heaven in this.
• 1:18:13
  Who is Zoe's ultimate warrior? I think Dark Alessa.
• 1:18:17
  Dark Alessa? Why?
• 1:18:18
  Because Dark Alessa is all about vengeance, and Zoe is a vengeful
• 1:18:23
  little cat. She's not fed on time.
• 1:18:25
  OK, that's fair enough. Who did you relate to?
• 1:18:33
  That's a good question. Come on man.
• 1:18:39
  You go first. Obviously I related to Sharon,
• 1:18:43
  what with the sleepwalking and all.
• 1:18:44
  Oh yeah, I guess that's. True.
• 1:18:47
  I didn't expect that to be over with so soon as I'd be able to
• 1:18:54
  buy some more time I related to. How long can you drag this out?
• 1:19:02
  The very person I'll relate to Christopher, because sometimes I
• 1:19:11
  don't know if I left the door open or if I close it.
• 1:19:14
  Or if you left your keys in it overnight.
• 1:19:15
  Or if I left my keys in it. I've done that a lot of times
• 1:19:18
  too. I've I've been in.
• 1:19:19
  Too many times, actually. Or did I do it?
• 1:19:21
  Did somebody in purgatory do it? Put my keys in the door, you
• 1:19:26
  know, maybe. No, you did it.
• 1:19:28
  I don't know, this movies made me think that there could be
• 1:19:30
  other options, you know, could be other possibilities out
• 1:19:34
  there. Dream sequel.
• 1:19:37
  I want to see them get out of purgatory, whatever that looks
• 1:19:42
  like. It's interesting that it goes
• 1:19:45
  beyond Silent Hill. I, you know, I figured you would
• 1:19:48
  be stuck there, but like, you can travel the whole world just
• 1:19:52
  in purgatory. It's interesting, yeah.
• 1:19:55
  Like, maybe find a way out of purgatory.
• 1:19:57
  But like, you know, in the process, we're exploring more of
• 1:20:00
  the world surrounding it. But then again, it's Silent
• 1:20:02
  Hill, so like, Silent Hill is a very important part of the whole
• 1:20:06
  story, so you still have to tie that in.
• 1:20:09
  Which leads us to a very important question.
• 1:20:11
  Yeah, WWDD. What would Vin Diesel do?
• 1:20:14
  It's what? What would Dom do?
• 1:20:16
  Why? Like I understand Vin Diesel and
• 1:20:19
  Dom are the same person but. I always hear VD whenever you
• 1:20:23
  say that instead of DD. Then that would just be what
• 1:20:27
  would Vin Diesel. It's even better question, that
• 1:20:32
  is the most important question. What would Vin Diesel, OK, so
• 1:20:40
  well he would have outrun Civil. OK, Civil would have not caught
• 1:20:43
  up. Civil would have become part of
• 1:20:45
  the family eventually. Civil wouldn't have gotten
• 1:20:47
  burned because Dom would have gotten back there in time.
• 1:20:49
  Here's how I think Dom is getting out of purge for you.
• 1:20:51
  OK, he explodes it. Well, there's yeah, there's no
• 1:20:56
  other way. We don't have to have any other
• 1:20:58
  explanation than this. He's like.
• 1:20:59
  He's like, no, we're. Going to hit the Nos and we're
• 1:21:01
  going to explode Purgatory. What happens is like, oh, well,
• 1:21:03
  the coal was burning too long, let me explode.
• 1:21:06
  And yeah, it's like, all right, that's solved the problem.
• 1:21:08
  Yeah, we're going to use the fire under the town.
• 1:21:11
  Just like everything is on fire now.
• 1:21:13
  And yeah, he like, explodes himself.
• 1:21:16
  So the explosion, just like, propels him through dimensions
• 1:21:21
  out of purgatory back into real life.
• 1:21:23
  Yeah, like, and as he's like being thrown through there, he
• 1:21:26
  has, like, sad flashbacks of his dad's crash.
• 1:21:29
  Yeah, but he was also there for his child, but he forgot it, so
• 1:21:34
  they got to get another one. A fifth child, now 5th.
• 1:21:36
  Child OK. OK, that, I mean, that's exactly
• 1:21:41
  what would happen. Perfect.
• 1:21:42
  All right, time for reviews. Yeah, new tagline.
• 1:21:47
  No new tagline? Well, we got so many before.
• 1:21:50
  The hills are dead with the sound of silence.
• 1:21:53
  OK. That's pretty good.
• 1:21:56
  I wrote it down in the beginning.
• 1:21:57
  Yeah, you did. Yeah, that came to you.
• 1:21:58
  Really. It did.
• 1:22:00
  All right. Good job.
• 1:22:01
  Thank you. OK, so let's do some reviews.
• 1:22:05
  That's it. Nothing to contribute to that.
• 1:22:07
  You like that one? I like it, yeah.
• 1:22:09
  I don't have anything else to add, honestly.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah, unless you want it like. No, it's fine.
• 1:22:15
  If I'm getting a mic drop, I'll take the mic drop.
• 1:22:17
  Yeah, get it when you can get them, man.
• 1:22:19
  Don't fight it because you smacked your mic there.
• 1:22:22
  Well, I didn't want to actually drop it.
• 1:22:24
  These are these class money. They do, yeah.
• 1:22:27
  OK, so what's the reviews? All right, so I have two.
• 1:22:30
  I did a good one and a bad one, but I wanted to do 2 different
• 1:22:34
  perspectives. I wanted to get a good one from
• 1:22:37
  somebody who hasn't played the video game and a bad one from
• 1:22:39
  somebody who has played the video game.
• 1:22:40
  Yeah, that's an interesting way to approach this.
• 1:22:42
  So we'll start off with the good one.
• 1:22:45
  So now it's in very gory, confusing and very good.
• 1:22:49
  I never played the video game so I can only review this as a
• 1:22:51
  movie. Visually it's very impressive
• 1:22:53
  with eerie locations and purposely washed out color.
• 1:22:57
  There's almost never a dull moment with monsters attacking
• 1:23:00
  and for some reason the left and right most of these are things
• 1:23:03
  are never explained but certainly grab your attention.
• 1:23:06
  I assume they make sense in the video game.
• 1:23:09
  I do have to say it's a pretty sad state of affairs when you
• 1:23:11
  have to play a video game to fully understand a movie.
• 1:23:14
  So I was never bored. I was trying to figure out the
• 1:23:17
  movie most of the time. There's also plenty of gore with
• 1:23:20
  people being ripped apart or torn open.
• 1:23:22
  This is not for the squeamish. The acting is as good as it can
• 1:23:26
  be. Mitchell is good, but a lot of
• 1:23:28
  her actions make no sense. Again, they probably do in the
• 1:23:30
  game. Laurie Holden is very good at as
• 1:23:33
  a police officer helping her. Sean Bean has a few good moments
• 1:23:36
  as Rose's husband. Alice Creish is exceptional as
• 1:23:39
  Christabel, downright chilling Farrell and this wonderful
• 1:23:43
  Sharon. This young girl has a bright
• 1:23:44
  career in front of her. Basically.
• 1:23:47
  I did like it, but the plot was more than confusing and it got
• 1:23:50
  very upsetting towards the end. Also the ending was some sort of
• 1:23:54
  ambiguous. I think it's meant to be that
• 1:23:56
  way. There's also a cute joke in the
• 1:23:58
  movie. The school in Silent Hill is
• 1:24:00
  called Midwich. This is probably a direct pun on
• 1:24:03
  the book Midwich Cuckoos which became Village of the Damned
• 1:24:07
  about the evil kids and that relates to this movie.
• 1:24:10
  I'm giving it 9 because of the confusing bits and the pieces
• 1:24:12
  and the ending. I do recommend it with some
• 1:24:15
  reservations. This is a must see for gore
• 1:24:17
  fans. OK I would say it's not exactly
• 1:24:19
  that big on gore honestly, but I may be biased considering I'm
• 1:24:23
  looking at this from the 2025. Years, I think we're not, we're
• 1:24:26
  not seeing the gore as it happens when we're seeing the
• 1:24:28
  after effects of it, like I said, like we see the like the
• 1:24:31
  barbed wire bondage basically. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of
• 1:24:34
  upsetting imagery. Yeah, I'll give them that.
• 1:24:36
  But yeah, I mean, like I said, it is kind of confusing.
• 1:24:39
  It probably does help to have played the game to understand
• 1:24:42
  some of the stuff. But yeah, you know, like I agree
• 1:24:46
  with most of what they said there.
• 1:24:48
  I I, I thought all the acting was good.
• 1:24:50
  I was, like I said before, really impressed with the kid in
• 1:24:53
  this movie. Absolutely she was.
• 1:24:55
  She was fantastic. Yeah, OK, let's do the one from
• 1:24:59
  the game player. It's a 2 out of 10.
• 1:25:02
  Play the game instead. Silent Hill is a big screen
• 1:25:05
  adaptation of the very popular and disturbing video game in
• 1:25:08
  which a frantic father, Harry Mason, searches the terrifying
• 1:25:11
  titular town in an attempt to find his missing daughter.
• 1:25:15
  In Christopher Ganz movie of the same name, the character of
• 1:25:17
  Harry is replaced by Rose de Silva.
• 1:25:20
  The little girl is the adoptive mother, but pretty much
• 1:25:22
  everything else remains the same and will be familiar to those
• 1:25:25
  who have experienced the game. Silent Hill emulates its source,
• 1:25:29
  its sources sinister setting and spooky sound design to
• 1:25:32
  perfection, producing bags of Erie ambience.
• 1:25:35
  Unfortunately, it also replicates its extremely
• 1:25:38
  confusing plot, and without the benefit of the direct
• 1:25:41
  interaction that gameplay allows, the result is extremely
• 1:25:44
  boring. It's a bit like watching someone
• 1:25:46
  else play the game for two hours solid without once being allowed
• 1:25:49
  to take part in any way. Whilst rabid fans of the Silent
• 1:25:53
  Hill games might possibly find something to enjoy about this
• 1:25:56
  tedious cinematic offering, anyone else will most likely be
• 1:25:59
  bored witless at the protagonist endless tramping through multi
• 1:26:03
  corridors, abandoned buildings and deserted alleys.
• 1:26:07
  A couple of scenes deliver some rather nifty and unsettling CGI
• 1:26:10
  creations and even a touch of over the top core, but it really
• 1:26:14
  isn't worth sitting through this dreadful mess for these
• 1:26:17
  occasions and all too brief good bits.
• 1:26:22
  I haven't played the video game, so I couldn't tell you how
• 1:26:26
  strongly I feel about that. It's interesting that people who
• 1:26:30
  play the game are, you know, saying probably need to play the
• 1:26:34
  game. But then again, the review from
• 1:26:36
  before and wait, we've said we haven't played the game, but we
• 1:26:38
  enjoyed the story and we still liked everything about it.
• 1:26:41
  And I can see how it would be a fun game to play.
• 1:26:42
  I think it's kind of I'm going to be curious when Until Dawn
• 1:26:50
  streams. Yeah, if it's not.
• 1:26:52
  Streaming already, I haven't, I haven't been paying that close
• 1:26:55
  attention. But at some point when we catch
• 1:26:57
  it on streaming, I'm going to be curious how we feel about it,
• 1:27:01
  which obviously we know from the trailer, it diverts from the
• 1:27:05
  video game a lot. And a lot of people who've
• 1:27:08
  played the video game didn't care for the movie that much.
• 1:27:11
  But I remember my mom saw it and she was like, I can see how this
• 1:27:14
  would be a fun video game. I actually enjoyed the movie.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah, so I kind of wonder if we'll have a similar experience,
• 1:27:21
  although neither of us wrote in to complain to the writer of.
• 1:27:24
  Until dawn. So we're it's what?
• 1:27:26
  You it's. A little while, yeah.
• 1:27:28
  It's a lot like what you say about whenever you read a book
• 1:27:33
  before you watch a movie. You enjoy the movies before you
• 1:27:37
  read the source material. Yes, any time that like that's
• 1:27:41
  kind of the key that I've noticed is that I still enjoy
• 1:27:44
  the book if I've seen the movie, but I tend to not enjoy the
• 1:27:47
  movie if I've already read the book.
• 1:27:49
  And that's probably the same case with this right here.
• 1:27:51
  I mean, we have the same thing, similar thing happened with
• 1:27:54
  Death Note. We both didn't really care for
• 1:27:56
  it because we've seen the anime, we know the source material.
• 1:27:59
  It was not true to a lot of the things in that.
• 1:28:02
  But your sister really liked the movie and she has no experience
• 1:28:06
  with that. And, you know, like, that's just
• 1:28:08
  one of those things where you're like, you don't know about it,
• 1:28:10
  so it doesn't bother you in those ways.
• 1:28:13
  And I, I have generally, as I've gotten older and tried to
• 1:28:19
  appreciate different mediums for what they are, I've tried to
• 1:28:23
  take a different approach to how I see adaptations and things
• 1:28:26
  like that. But I've just learned that for
• 1:28:28
  myself, when I haven't already imagined where everything can
• 1:28:31
  go, it's easier for me to see the movie and then do the other
• 1:28:35
  things. And then I can appreciate them
• 1:28:37
  that way because once I'm open to all of the possibilities, the
• 1:28:39
  movie ends up being so different from my brain that it's like
• 1:28:45
  almost a let down. But I don't have that if I do it
• 1:28:47
  in reverse, right? You know, cuz I can go back and
• 1:28:49
  I can appreciate the movie misery every fucking time.
• 1:28:52
  Even though I know it's got enough differences from the
• 1:28:55
  book. Those don't bother me.
• 1:28:57
  Yeah, but you know, the flip is not true for for other things.
• 1:29:01
  Yeah, so it's tricky. Yeah, you know, I get it.
• 1:29:06
  It does seem like a lot of fans of the game did appreciate this
• 1:29:10
  movie, though. Yeah.
• 1:29:11
  And yeah, you know, like I said at the beginning, it's nice
• 1:29:14
  having somebody who cares about the source material involved.
• 1:29:18
  It's it's always good when it's coming from another fan's
• 1:29:21
  perspective because even if it's not one that you agree with,
• 1:29:23
  like it's still made with love. Same thing with like Lord of the
• 1:29:26
  Rings, right? Like, I know a lot of people are
• 1:29:27
  like, oh, I don't really agree with how he saw the books, but
• 1:29:32
  you know, it's probably like the de facto way to adapt it because
• 1:29:35
  like, Peter Jackson's a pretty big fan from all I've.
• 1:29:38
  Heard Nerd. Yeah.
• 1:29:40
  But then again, I can't really comment on that either.
• 1:29:44
  So, yeah, All right. I don't have any listener
• 1:29:46
  reviews. Yeah, I'm sorry, we didn't get
• 1:29:49
  any. You guys, I asked you.
• 1:29:51
  I specifically asked. Yeah, yeah, that's OK.
• 1:29:54
  It happens. Well, you know what?
• 1:29:57
  That's OK, because next week we're going to watch something
• 1:30:00
  new for both of us, voted by our patrons.
• 1:30:02
  We are going to watch Invasion of the Body Snatchers and it's
• 1:30:06
  the 1978 version with Donald Sutherland and Travis Snuggles
• 1:30:14
  Me to make that sound a million times.
• 1:30:16
  If you would like to watch that movie right now, it is currently
• 1:30:18
  streaming on HBO Max and Prime, or you can rent it from YouTube
• 1:30:21
  or Google TV. Cool.
• 1:30:23
  I'm excited for that. I am too.
• 1:30:25
  Again, that's one of those. I know the general beats of it,
• 1:30:27
  but I've not seen it. I'm excited to see it.
• 1:30:30
  No, the ending big time. But I don't think it's going to
• 1:30:32
  yeah, it's not going to affect my enjoyment, I don't think.
• 1:30:35
  I think I'm going to be I'm, I'm along for the ride this time.
• 1:30:38
  This is something I keep telling you about Dragon Ball because
• 1:30:41
  I've seen random bits and pieces and movies and stuff.
• 1:30:45
  So like spoiler for Dragon Ball, I guess.
• 1:30:48
  But like Krillin just died and I told Travis I'm like on the one
• 1:30:51
  hand Piccolo is old and krill instead, but on the other hand I
• 1:30:57
  know like the most recent movie Krillin was alive and Piccolo
• 1:31:00
  was Uncle Piccolo so. Nobody ruined this for Jesse.
• 1:31:04
  She has. No, don't.
• 1:31:05
  Yeah, please don't. Please don't.
• 1:31:07
  We've gotten to the point where like if I have a question about
• 1:31:09
  something innocuous like the age of a character like Travis, like
• 1:31:12
  just ask me and I'll Google it for you so that way I don't get
• 1:31:15
  anymore spoilers. Jesse, let me tell you
• 1:31:16
  something. You don't even have to have
• 1:31:18
  anybody Google it. I can probably fucking tell you
• 1:31:20
  I. Well, you didn't know how old
• 1:31:22
  Shiatsu and TN were. OK, that's like, that's stupid
• 1:31:25
  parts of war. I can tell you a lot about other
• 1:31:27
  things of. War.
• 1:31:28
  But those are things I needed to know yeah, so please don't
• 1:31:33
  please don't ruin it for me. But I told Travis I was like, I
• 1:31:36
  know that those things happen eventually, but obviously
• 1:31:38
  they're not happening now. And I'm just excited for the
• 1:31:41
  journey. And that's how we are with
• 1:31:43
  Invasion of Body Snatchers next. Week and the same thing with me
• 1:31:45
  and Buffy. I'm in the same.
• 1:31:46
  Place Yeah, absolutely do not spoil a fucking thing for him.
• 1:31:51
  He thinks he knows things, he'll tell me things he's like, well,
• 1:31:54
  I know eventually this and I keep a neutral face because
• 1:31:58
  maybe he's got some of them right, maybe he's got some of
• 1:32:00
  them wrong. I'm not going to tell him
• 1:32:01
  because he's seen up to almost the end of Season 3 and he's
• 1:32:05
  seen once more with feeling. Yeah, that's all I've.
• 1:32:07
  Seen. That's all he's seen.
• 1:32:09
  He's not allowed to look at Buffy subreddits.
• 1:32:12
  Yeah, I'm, I'm keeping away from that.
• 1:32:14
  And he's gonna be watching Angel Two once we get to Season 4.
• 1:32:18
  Yeah, we're gonna go. We're doing this the right way.
• 1:32:20
  Chronological in universe order with those.
• 1:32:24
  Yeah. So we're, we're doing it, Yeah,
• 1:32:27
  we're making our way. So.
• 1:32:31
  All that to say, stay tuned next week for Invasion of.
• 1:32:33
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• 1:32:35
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