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Oscar Ortiz | Environmental Leadership in Indio: Councilmember Discusses Key Initiatives · Healthy Desert Healthy You

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  your
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  health
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  and
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  wellness
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  where
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  you
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  live.
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  This
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  is
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  Healthy
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  Desert,
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  Healthy
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  youy,
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  hosted
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  by
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  Dean.
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  Now
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  here's
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  Will.
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  Hello,
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  friends.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  Healthy
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  Desert,
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  Healthy
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  you
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  podcast.
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  This
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  is
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  a
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  new
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  podcast
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  presented
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  by
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  the
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  Healthcare
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  District
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  and
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  Foundation,
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  and
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  we
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  started
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  this
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  to
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  continue
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  conversations.
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  We
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  began
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  last
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  September
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  when
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  we
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  hosted
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  the
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  inaugural
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  Healthy
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  Desert,
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  Healthy
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  U
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  Environmental
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  Health
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  Summit.
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  One
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  of
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  the
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  participants
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  of
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  that
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  summit
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  was
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  Indio
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  City
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  Councilman
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  Oscar
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  Ortiz.
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  He
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  is
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  here
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  with
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  us
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  today.
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  Welcome,
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  Councilman.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Thank
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  you
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  for
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  having
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  me.
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  Appreciate
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  it.
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  We're
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  very
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  happy
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  here
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  because
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  I
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  understand
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  Indio
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  is
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  doing
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  a
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  lot
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  in
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  terms
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  of
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  addressing
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  the
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  environmental
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  challenges
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  in
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  the
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  city
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  of
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  Indio.
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  And
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  you
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  about
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  that.
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  I
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  think
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  it's
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  really
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  interesting
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  and
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  fascinating
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  that
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  NDO
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  is
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  really
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  becoming
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  a
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  leader
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  in
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  this
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  movement.
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  Definitely.
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  So
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  what
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  are
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  the
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  key
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  ways
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  that
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  Indio
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  is
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  addressing
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  environmental
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  challenges?
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  You
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  know,
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  I
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  think
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  in
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  the
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  past
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  few
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  years,
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  things
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  that
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  we've
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  been
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  doing
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  is
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  looking
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  regionally
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  at
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  what's
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  going
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  on
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  in
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  different
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  cities,
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  different
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  regions,
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  all
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  throughout
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  our
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  region.
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  You
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  know,
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  sometimes
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  if
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  we're
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  looking
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  just
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  locally,
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  everything
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  looks
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  like
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  it's
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  going
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  okay.
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  And
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  we
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  look
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  regionally,
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  and
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  we
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  see
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  that
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  there's
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  so
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  much
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  more.
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  More
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  work
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  to
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  do.
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  And
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  so
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  we've
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  been
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  building
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  on
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  that
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  and
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  looking
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  at
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  how
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  we
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  can
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  be
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  a
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  leader
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  in
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  the
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  region
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  in
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  helping
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  address
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  some
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  of
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  these
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  issues
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  that
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  we're
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  seeing
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  coming
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  up
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  around
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  our
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  communities.
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  Are
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  there
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  specific
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  programs
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  that
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  you
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  have
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  in
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  place?
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  Yeah,
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  we
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  do
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  have
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  the
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  India
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  Water
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  Authority
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  there.
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  We
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  do
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  have
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  a
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  few
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  programs.
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  One
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  of
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  them
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  that
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  we
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  just
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  upgraded
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  last
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  year,
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  which
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  was
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  our
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  turf
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  removal
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  program,
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  so
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  we
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  give
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  people
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  a
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  financial
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  incentive
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  to
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  remove
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  their
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  grass.
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  One
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  of
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  the
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  things
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  we
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  were
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  seeing,
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  again
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  regionally
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  and
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  all
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  throughout
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  the
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  country
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  with
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  people
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  that
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  were
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  using
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  these
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  programs,
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  was
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  that
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  sometimes
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  the
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  grass
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  was
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  being
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  replaced
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  with
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  just
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  rock
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  or
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  other
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  types
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  of
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  sediment.
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  Right.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  actually
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  causing
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  heat
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  islands
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  because
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  there
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  was
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  less
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  water,
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  less
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  greenery.
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  And
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  you're
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  actually
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  seeing
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  higher
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  temperatures
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  around
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  those
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  neighborhoods.
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  And
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  so
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  what
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  we've
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  done
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  is
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  we
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  added
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  an
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  extra
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  dollar.
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  We
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  went
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  from
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  $2
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  per
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  square
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  foot
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  to
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  $3
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  per
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  square
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  foot
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  if
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  you're
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  including
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  native
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  plants.
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  And
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  so
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  that
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  way
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  we
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  can
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  kind
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  of
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  encourage
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  urban
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  greening
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  along
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  the
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  way
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  and
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  help
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  bring
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  down
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  the
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  temperatures
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  in
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  those
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  neighborhoods
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  while
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  we're
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  also
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  reducing
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  our
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  water
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  use
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  in
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  those
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  neighborhoods.
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  That
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  is
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  really
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  fascinating
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  because
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  my
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  understanding
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  is
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  that
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  cities
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  are
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  really
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  encouraging
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  the
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  desert
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  landscaping.
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  Yes.
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  And
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  I
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  have
• 2:43
  driven
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  through
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  Neighborhoods.
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  And
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  I've
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  seen
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  the
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  boulders
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  and
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  the
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  different
• 2:47
  rocks
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  and
• 2:47
  that
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  sort
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  of
• 2:48
  thing.
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  But
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  you're
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  saying
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  that
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  incorporating
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  native
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  plants
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  is
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  really
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  important
• 2:52
  to
• 2:52
  bringing
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  that
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  temperature
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  to
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  bring
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  the
• 2:54
  heat
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  down.
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  Yes,
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  yes.
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  At
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  the
• 2:56
  same
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  time
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  that
• 2:56
  we're
• 2:57
  removing
• 2:57
  the
• 2:57
  grass,
• 2:57
  which
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  is
• 2:58
  really
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  just
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  water
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  intensive.
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  Right.
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  We
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  also
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  want
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  to
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  replace
• 3:01
  it
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  with
• 3:02
  other
• 3:02
  greenery,
• 3:03
  not
• 3:03
  just
• 3:04
  rocks
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  and
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  sediment.
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  We
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  want
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  to
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  really,
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  for
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  me,
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  I
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  really
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  like
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  to
• 3:08
  encourage
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  the
• 3:08
  native
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  plants
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  themselves.
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  The
• 3:10
  plants
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  that
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  have
• 3:10
  been
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  here
• 3:11
  for
• 3:11
  thousands
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  of
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  years
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  that
• 3:12
  have
• 3:13
  evolved
• 3:13
  to
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  use
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  very
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  little
• 3:14
  water.
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  Right.
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  But
• 3:15
  we
• 3:15
  can
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  still
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  get
• 3:16
  things.
• 3:16
  We
• 3:17
  can
• 3:17
  get
• 3:17
  shade
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  from
• 3:18
  the
• 3:19
  trees.
• 3:19
  They're
• 3:20
  a
• 3:20
  food
• 3:20
  resource,
• 3:21
  they're
• 3:21
  wildlife
• 3:22
  habitat,
• 3:23
  and
• 3:24
  they
• 3:24
  save
• 3:24
  a
• 3:24
  lot
• 3:24
  of
• 3:24
  water.
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  So
• 3:25
  you're
• 3:25
  kind
• 3:25
  of
• 3:25
  hitting
• 3:25
  all
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  these
• 3:26
  different
• 3:26
  points
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  with
• 3:28
  one
• 3:28
  strategy.
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  So
• 3:29
  when
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  you
• 3:30
  talk
• 3:30
  about
• 3:30
  native
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  plants
• 3:31
  and
• 3:31
  trees,
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  you're
• 3:32
  talking
• 3:32
  about
• 3:32
  mesquite,
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  you're
• 3:33
  talking
• 3:33
  about
• 3:33
  palo
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  verde.
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  Are
• 3:35
  there
• 3:35
  others
• 3:35
  that
• 3:36
  you.
• 3:36
  There's
• 3:37
  so
• 3:37
  many.
• 3:38
  Yeah.
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  think
• 3:39
  we're
• 3:39
  about
• 3:40
  to
• 3:40
  update
• 3:40
  our
• 3:41
  list
• 3:41
  to
• 3:41
  about
• 3:42
  50
• 3:42
  plants
• 3:42
  that
• 3:42
  you
• 3:43
  can
• 3:43
  include
• 3:44
  throughout
• 3:45
  your
• 3:45
  landscape.
• 3:45
  And
• 3:45
  so
• 3:45
  there's
• 3:46
  a
• 3:46
  lot
• 3:46
  of
• 3:46
  trees,
• 3:47
  different
• 3:47
  types
• 3:48
  of
• 3:48
  shrubs,
• 3:49
  you
• 3:49
  know,
• 3:50
  lavender,
• 3:50
  lavender
• 3:51
  plants,
• 3:51
  right?
• 3:51
  Yes.
• 3:51
  There's
• 3:52
  a
• 3:52
  desert
• 3:52
  lavender
• 3:53
  that
• 3:53
  can
• 3:53
  grow,
• 3:54
  you
• 3:54
  know,
• 3:54
  up
• 3:54
  to
• 3:54
  6
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  12ft
• 3:55
  tall.
• 3:56
  And
• 3:56
  it
• 3:56
  smells
• 3:57
  amazing.
• 3:58
  It's
• 3:58
  great
• 3:58
  for
• 3:58
  bees.
• 3:59
  There's
• 4:00
  also
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  creosote,
• 4:01
  which
• 4:01
  we
• 4:01
  see
• 4:01
  all
• 4:01
  over
• 4:02
  our
• 4:02
  desert.
• 4:03
  That's
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  one
• 4:03
  that
• 4:04
  gives
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  smell
• 4:04
  of
• 4:05
  rain
• 4:05
  in
• 4:05
  our
• 4:06
  desert
• 4:06
  when
• 4:06
  we
• 4:07
  have
• 4:07
  that
• 4:07
  really
• 4:07
  distinct
• 4:07
  smell.
• 4:08
  When
• 4:08
  it
• 4:08
  rains
• 4:09
  out
• 4:09
  here,
• 4:09
  you're
• 4:09
  smelling
• 4:10
  the
• 4:10
  creosote
• 4:10
  from
• 4:11
  all
• 4:11
  around
• 4:11
  the
• 4:12
  desert.
• 4:12
  And
• 4:13
  actually,
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  plant
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  that.
• 4:14
  There's
• 4:14
  over
• 4:15
  100
• 4:15
  different
• 4:15
  species
• 4:16
  of
• 4:16
  bees
• 4:17
  that
• 4:17
  specialize
• 4:18
  just
• 4:18
  on
• 4:18
  that
• 4:18
  plant.
• 4:19
  So
• 4:19
  when
• 4:19
  they're
• 4:20
  looking
• 4:20
  for
• 4:20
  food,
• 4:20
  they're
• 4:20
  looking
• 4:21
  for
• 4:21
  creosote.
• 4:22
  And
• 4:22
  if
• 4:22
  we
• 4:22
  start
• 4:23
  planting
• 4:23
  these
• 4:24
  all
• 4:24
  throughout
• 4:24
  our
• 4:24
  neighborhoods,
• 4:25
  we
• 4:25
  can
• 4:25
  really
• 4:26
  help
• 4:26
  our
• 4:26
  bee
• 4:26
  species,
• 4:27
  hummingbirds,
• 4:28
  all
• 4:28
  these
• 4:28
  other
• 4:28
  wildlife
• 4:29
  species
• 4:30
  out
• 4:30
  here,
• 4:30
  while
• 4:30
  reducing
• 4:31
  our
• 4:31
  water
• 4:31
  use.
• 4:32
  That's
• 4:32
  incredible.
• 4:33
  So
• 4:33
  there
• 4:33
  are
• 4:34
  options.
• 4:35
  Your
• 4:35
  yard
• 4:35
  doesn't
• 4:36
  necessarily
• 4:36
  have
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  look
• 4:36
  like
• 4:37
  your
• 4:37
  neighbors.
• 4:37
  Yeah,
• 4:38
  there's
• 4:38
  so
• 4:39
  many
• 4:39
  options
• 4:39
  and
• 4:40
  really
• 4:40
  colorful
• 4:40
  options,
• 4:41
  too.
• 4:41
  One
• 4:42
  that
• 4:42
  I
• 4:42
  really.
• 4:42
  That
• 4:42
  I
• 4:43
  recently
• 4:43
  started
• 4:43
  planting
• 4:43
  was
• 4:44
  a
• 4:44
  chupa
• 4:44
  rosa.
• 4:45
  And
• 4:45
  so
• 4:45
  in
• 4:45
  Spanish,
• 4:46
  that
• 4:46
  means
• 4:46
  hummingbird.
• 4:47
  And
• 4:48
  that
• 4:48
  is
• 4:48
  a
• 4:49
  plant
• 4:49
  with
• 4:49
  these
• 4:50
  really
• 4:50
  long
• 4:50
  flowers.
• 4:51
  They're
• 4:51
  either
• 4:52
  red
• 4:52
  or
• 4:52
  yellow,
• 4:53
  and
• 4:53
  they
• 4:53
  fit
• 4:54
  right
• 4:54
  into
• 4:54
  the
• 4:55
  hummingbird's
• 4:55
  beak.
• 4:56
  And
• 4:57
  so
• 4:57
  it's
• 4:57
  kind
• 4:57
  of
• 4:57
  like
• 4:58
  a.
• 4:58
  It's
• 4:59
  a
• 4:59
  really
• 4:59
  good
• 4:59
  match
• 4:59
  for
• 4:59
  them.
• 5:00
  Right.
• 5:00
  So
• 5:00
  if
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  plant
• 5:01
  those,
• 5:01
  you'll
• 5:01
  see
• 5:01
  them
• 5:01
  come
• 5:01
  visit
• 5:02
  your
• 5:02
  house
• 5:02
  every
• 5:03
  day.
• 5:03
  This
• 5:03
  is
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  land
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  hummingbirds.
• 5:05
  You
• 5:06
  see
• 5:06
  them
• 5:06
  Everywhere,
• 5:07
  all
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  time.
• 5:08
  Definitely.
• 5:09
  I'm
• 5:09
  wondering
• 5:09
  about
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  turf
• 5:11
  removal
• 5:11
  program.
• 5:12
  You
• 5:12
  know,
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  lot
• 5:13
  of
• 5:13
  people
• 5:13
  in
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  valley
• 5:14
  move
• 5:14
  from
• 5:14
  other
• 5:14
  places
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  country,
• 5:16
  from
• 5:16
  outside
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  country.
• 5:17
  They're
• 5:17
  used
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  grass.
• 5:18
  Is
• 5:18
  there
• 5:19
  a
• 5:19
  lot
• 5:19
  of
• 5:19
  pushback
• 5:19
  to
• 5:20
  that,
• 5:20
  or.
• 5:20
  You
• 5:21
  know,
• 5:21
  there
• 5:21
  is
• 5:21
  some.
• 5:22
  And
• 5:22
  we
• 5:22
  do
• 5:22
  understand,
• 5:23
  you
• 5:23
  know,
• 5:23
  for
• 5:23
  some
• 5:23
  people,
• 5:23
  especially
• 5:24
  when
• 5:24
  you
• 5:24
  have
• 5:24
  young
• 5:25
  children,
• 5:25
  they
• 5:25
  need
• 5:25
  a
• 5:26
  play
• 5:26
  space.
• 5:26
  Right.
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  think
• 5:28
  when
• 5:28
  we're
• 5:28
  going
• 5:28
  into
• 5:29
  just
• 5:29
  very
• 5:29
  large
• 5:30
  yards
• 5:30
  and
• 5:30
  entire
• 5:31
  neighborhoods
• 5:31
  and
• 5:31
  golf
• 5:32
  courses,
• 5:33
  it's
• 5:33
  just
• 5:33
  extremely
• 5:34
  water
• 5:34
  intensive.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:35
  right
• 5:35
  now,
• 5:35
  it's
• 5:36
  unsustainable.
• 5:37
  Right.
• 5:37
  We
• 5:37
  look
• 5:38
  at
• 5:38
  our
• 5:38
  groundwater
• 5:39
  system,
• 5:39
  we
• 5:39
  have
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  huge
• 5:40
  aquifer.
• 5:40
  Right.
• 5:41
  And
• 5:41
  it's
• 5:41
  going
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  keep
• 5:41
  us
• 5:42
  good
• 5:42
  for
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  really
• 5:43
  long
• 5:43
  time.
• 5:43
  But
• 5:44
  again,
• 5:44
  that's
• 5:45
  here
• 5:45
  locally.
• 5:45
  You
• 5:45
  look
• 5:45
  regionally,
• 5:46
  and
• 5:47
  things
• 5:47
  are
• 5:47
  not
• 5:48
  going
• 5:48
  very
• 5:48
  well.
• 5:48
  The
• 5:49
  colorado
• 5:49
  river
• 5:50
  was
• 5:50
  going
• 5:51
  dry
• 5:51
  on
• 5:51
  us,
• 5:51
  Right.
• 5:52
  Lake
• 5:52
  mead
• 5:52
  was
• 5:52
  almost
• 5:53
  at
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  point
• 5:53
  where
• 5:53
  it
• 5:53
  couldn't
• 5:53
  pump
• 5:54
  water
• 5:54
  anymore.
• 5:55
  And
• 5:55
  that's
• 5:56
  how
• 5:56
  we
• 5:56
  get
• 5:57
  water
• 5:57
  from
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  colorado
• 5:58
  river.
• 5:59
  And
• 5:59
  in
• 5:59
  Arizona,
• 6:00
  you're
• 6:00
  seeing
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  land
• 6:02
  has
• 6:02
  subsided
• 6:03
  by
• 6:03
  several
• 6:04
  feet
• 6:04
  because
• 6:04
  you've
• 6:05
  drained
• 6:05
  so
• 6:05
  much
• 6:06
  water
• 6:06
  out
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  their
• 6:06
  aquifers.
• 6:07
  Central
• 6:08
  valley
• 6:08
  is
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  same
• 6:08
  way.
• 6:09
  We've
• 6:09
  drained
• 6:10
  so
• 6:10
  much
• 6:10
  water
• 6:10
  out
• 6:10
  of
• 6:11
  those
• 6:11
  aquifers
• 6:11
  that
• 6:11
  the
• 6:12
  land
• 6:12
  has
• 6:12
  subsided
• 6:13
  several
• 6:13
  feet
• 6:14
  down.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:14
  you
• 6:14
  cannot
• 6:15
  regain
• 6:15
  that.
• 6:16
  That
• 6:16
  land.
• 6:16
  Right.
• 6:17
  Or
• 6:17
  that
• 6:17
  space
• 6:18
  under
• 6:18
  your
• 6:18
  land.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:20
  so
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  think,
• 6:21
  yeah,
• 6:21
  just
• 6:21
  keeping
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  in
• 6:22
  mind,
• 6:23
  that
• 6:23
  we.
• 6:24
  We
• 6:24
  need
• 6:24
  to
• 6:24
  make
• 6:25
  some
• 6:25
  huge
• 6:25
  changes
• 6:25
  to
• 6:26
  be
• 6:26
  able
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  be
• 6:26
  sustainable
• 6:27
  within
• 6:28
  this
• 6:28
  desert
• 6:28
  region.
• 6:30
  So
• 6:31
  making
• 6:32
  these
• 6:32
  changes,
• 6:32
  it
• 6:33
  all
• 6:33
  sounds
• 6:33
  really
• 6:33
  wonderful.
• 6:34
  And
• 6:34
  things
• 6:34
  that
• 6:34
  we
• 6:35
  should
• 6:35
  be
• 6:35
  doing
• 6:35
  to
• 6:36
  protect
• 6:36
  our
• 6:36
  environment.
• 6:37
  I'm
• 6:38
  wondering,
• 6:40
  are
• 6:40
  there
• 6:40
  any
• 6:40
  obstacles
• 6:41
  to
• 6:41
  implementing
• 6:42
  environmental
• 6:43
  initiatives
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  programs?
• 6:45
  Yeah,
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  think
• 6:46
  one
• 6:46
  of
• 6:46
  them.
• 6:47
  Well,
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  think
• 6:48
  price
• 6:48
  would
• 6:48
  be
• 6:49
  an
• 6:49
  obvious
• 6:49
  one.
• 6:50
  Right.
• 6:50
  We
• 6:50
  always
• 6:51
  think
• 6:51
  about
• 6:51
  that.
• 6:51
  But
• 6:51
  I
• 6:52
  think
• 6:52
  a
• 6:52
  secondary
• 6:52
  one
• 6:53
  is
• 6:53
  what
• 6:53
  is
• 6:53
  the
• 6:54
  actual
• 6:54
  analysis
• 6:55
  on
• 6:55
  a
• 6:55
  lot
• 6:55
  of
• 6:55
  these
• 6:56
  technologies.
• 6:56
  Right.
• 6:57
  A
• 6:57
  lot
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  times
• 6:58
  I
• 6:58
  bring
• 6:59
  up
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  lot
• 6:59
  of
• 6:59
  different
• 7:00
  strategies,
• 7:01
  and
• 7:01
  people
• 7:02
  real
• 7:02
  quick
• 7:03
  say,
• 7:03
  that's
• 7:03
  too
• 7:04
  expensive.
• 7:04
  We
• 7:04
  can't
• 7:04
  do
• 7:05
  that.
• 7:05
  And
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  say,
• 7:06
  show
• 7:06
  me
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  numbers.
• 7:07
  And
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  lot
• 7:07
  of
• 7:08
  people
• 7:08
  can't
• 7:08
  show
• 7:08
  me
• 7:08
  any
• 7:08
  numbers
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  back
• 7:09
  that
• 7:09
  up.
• 7:09
  Right.
• 7:10
  And
• 7:10
  so
• 7:11
  times
• 7:11
  are
• 7:11
  changing.
• 7:11
  Everything's
• 7:12
  evolving.
• 7:13
  Prices
• 7:13
  are
• 7:13
  changing.
• 7:14
  The
• 7:14
  price
• 7:14
  of
• 7:14
  lumber
• 7:14
  is
• 7:15
  changing
• 7:15
  just
• 7:15
  this
• 7:16
  past
• 7:16
  week.
• 7:16
  Right.
• 7:17
  And
• 7:17
  so
• 7:17
  we
• 7:17
  need
• 7:17
  to
• 7:18
  have
• 7:18
  good
• 7:18
  models
• 7:19
  that
• 7:19
  we
• 7:19
  can
• 7:19
  continue
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  change
• 7:20
  while
• 7:21
  times
• 7:21
  are
• 7:21
  changing.
• 7:21
  To
• 7:22
  see
• 7:22
  how
• 7:22
  far
• 7:22
  are
• 7:22
  we
• 7:23
  from
• 7:23
  these.
• 7:25
  From
• 7:25
  these
• 7:25
  strategies
• 7:26
  being
• 7:26
  financially
• 7:27
  feasible.
• 7:28
  One
• 7:28
  of
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  ones
• 7:29
  that
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  was
• 7:29
  looking
• 7:30
  at
• 7:30
  is
• 7:30
  solar
• 7:30
  power.
• 7:31
  So
• 7:32
  if
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  look
• 7:32
  at
• 7:32
  solar
• 7:33
  in
• 7:33
  sce
• 7:34
  territory,
• 7:34
  there's
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  lot
• 7:35
  better
• 7:35
  incentives.
• 7:36
  Once
• 7:36
  you
• 7:36
  cross
• 7:36
  into
• 7:37
  I.
• 7:37
  D
• 7:37
  territory,
• 7:38
  there's
• 7:38
  not
• 7:38
  much
• 7:39
  incentives
• 7:39
  there.
• 7:40
  So
• 7:40
  it's
• 7:40
  not
• 7:40
  financially
• 7:41
  feasible
• 7:41
  for
• 7:41
  people
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  go
• 7:42
  solar.
• 7:42
  So
• 7:43
  if
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  cross
• 7:43
  that
• 7:43
  line
• 7:44
  into
• 7:44
  IID
• 7:44
  territory,
• 7:45
  you'll
• 7:45
  notice
• 7:45
  right
• 7:45
  away
• 7:45
  that
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  older
• 7:46
  homes,
• 7:47
  hardly
• 7:47
  anybody
• 7:48
  has
• 7:48
  solar.
• 7:49
  And
• 7:49
  one
• 7:50
  thing
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  we
• 7:50
  propose
• 7:51
  is
• 7:51
  let's
• 7:51
  look
• 7:51
  at
• 7:51
  the
• 7:52
  financial
• 7:52
  analysis
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  if
• 7:54
  we
• 7:54
  were
• 7:54
  to
• 7:54
  invest
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  city
• 7:56
  with
• 7:56
  IID
• 7:56
  into
• 7:57
  solar
• 7:57
  and
• 7:58
  have
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  partnership
• 7:59
  with
• 7:59
  our
• 7:59
  residents,
• 8:00
  can
• 8:00
  we
• 8:00
  centralize
• 8:01
  that
• 8:01
  to
• 8:02
  ease
• 8:02
  the
• 8:02
  strain
• 8:03
  on
• 8:03
  the
• 8:03
  grid
• 8:04
  and
• 8:04
  then
• 8:04
  use
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  extra
• 8:05
  solar
• 8:05
  that's
• 8:06
  available
• 8:07
  to
• 8:07
  produce
• 8:07
  hydrogen
• 8:08
  power?
• 8:08
  But
• 8:09
  again,
• 8:09
  we
• 8:09
  don't
• 8:09
  have
• 8:10
  that
• 8:10
  financial
• 8:10
  analysis
• 8:11
  and
• 8:12
  we
• 8:12
  haven't
• 8:12
  been
• 8:12
  able
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  get
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  buy
• 8:14
  in
• 8:14
  from
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  power
• 8:14
  company
• 8:15
  yet.
• 8:15
  Not
• 8:16
  yet,
• 8:16
  but
• 8:16
  one
• 8:17
  day
• 8:17
  we
• 8:17
  will.
• 8:17
  Yeah,
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  was
• 8:18
  going
• 8:18
  to
• 8:18
  ask
• 8:18
  about
• 8:18
  that.
• 8:19
  Utility
• 8:19
  companies
• 8:20
  especially,
• 8:20
  is
• 8:21
  it
• 8:21
  difficult
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  work
• 8:22
  with
• 8:22
  them?
• 8:23
  Do
• 8:23
  they
• 8:23
  seem
• 8:23
  open?
• 8:24
  If
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  bottom
• 8:24
  line
• 8:25
  makes
• 8:25
  sense
• 8:25
  for
• 8:25
  them,
• 8:26
  that's
• 8:26
  usually
• 8:27
  a
• 8:28
  big
• 8:28
  part
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  deciding
• 8:29
  factor.
• 8:30
  You
• 8:30
  know
• 8:30
  what,
• 8:31
  sometimes
• 8:31
  I
• 8:32
  think
• 8:33
  we,
• 8:33
  we
• 8:33
  can't
• 8:33
  even
• 8:34
  get
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  those
• 8:34
  numbers.
• 8:35
  That's
• 8:35
  been
• 8:35
  a
• 8:35
  struggle
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  I've
• 8:36
  been
• 8:36
  seeing.
• 8:37
  So
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  had
• 8:37
  a
• 8:38
  nine
• 8:38
  page
• 8:38
  proposal
• 8:39
  that
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  sent
• 8:39
  in
• 8:39
  and
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  got
• 8:40
  a
• 8:40
  paragraph
• 8:41
  back
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  said
• 8:41
  we're
• 8:41
  not
• 8:41
  interested.
• 8:42
  Oh,
• 8:43
  right.
• 8:43
  So
• 8:44
  we're
• 8:44
  going
• 8:44
  to
• 8:44
  keep
• 8:45
  pushing
• 8:45
  though.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:45
  now
• 8:45
  we
• 8:45
  have,
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  a
• 8:46
  new
• 8:46
  JPA
• 8:47
  that
• 8:47
  we
• 8:47
  formed.
• 8:48
  We
• 8:48
  have
• 8:49
  2,000
• 8:49
  in
• 8:50
  2033.
• 8:51
  Our
• 8:51
  contract
• 8:51
  will
• 8:51
  be
• 8:52
  coming
• 8:52
  up
• 8:52
  and
• 8:53
  so
• 8:53
  we
• 8:53
  have
• 8:53
  room
• 8:54
  to
• 8:54
  negotiate.
• 8:54
  We
• 8:54
  have
• 8:55
  some
• 8:55
  leverage
• 8:55
  here
• 8:56
  and
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  think
• 8:56
  we're
• 8:56
  going
• 8:56
  to
• 8:56
  keep
• 8:57
  pushing
• 8:57
  those,
• 8:58
  those
• 8:58
  conversations.
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  love
• 8:59
  that.
• 9:00
  One
• 9:00
  of
• 9:00
  the
• 9:01
  things
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  always
• 9:01
  want
• 9:02
  to,
• 9:02
  or
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  like
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  ask
• 9:03
  is
• 9:04
  what
• 9:04
  can
• 9:05
  residents
• 9:06
  do
• 9:06
  right
• 9:06
  now
• 9:07
  in
• 9:07
  their
• 9:07
  lives
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  make
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  positive
• 9:08
  impact,
• 9:10
  whether
• 9:10
  it's
• 9:10
  in
• 9:10
  their
• 9:11
  individual
• 9:12
  lives,
• 9:12
  collectively
• 9:13
  for
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  community.
• 9:13
  You
• 9:14
  talked
• 9:14
  about
• 9:14
  turf
• 9:14
  removal,
• 9:16
  about
• 9:16
  planting
• 9:16
  native
• 9:17
  plants
• 9:17
  and
• 9:18
  trees.
• 9:19
  What
• 9:19
  are
• 9:19
  some
• 9:20
  other
• 9:20
  things
• 9:20
  that
• 9:20
  people
• 9:20
  can
• 9:21
  actually
• 9:21
  do
• 9:21
  right
• 9:21
  now?
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  think
• 9:22
  one
• 9:23
  of
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  things
• 9:23
  that
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  would
• 9:24
  like
• 9:24
  to
• 9:24
  see
• 9:24
  is
• 9:25
  we
• 9:25
  focus
• 9:26
  so
• 9:26
  much
• 9:26
  on
• 9:27
  what
• 9:27
  is
• 9:28
  easier,
• 9:28
  right.
• 9:29
  What
• 9:29
  is
• 9:30
  cheaper
• 9:30
  to
• 9:30
  do.
• 9:31
  I
• 9:31
  think
• 9:31
  we
• 9:31
  have
• 9:32
  to
• 9:32
  kind
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  work
• 9:32
  backwards
• 9:33
  a
• 9:33
  bit.
• 9:34
  We've
• 9:35
  been
• 9:35
  given
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  lot
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  things
• 9:36
  that
• 9:36
  are
• 9:36
  cheap
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  fast
• 9:37
  but
• 9:38
  are
• 9:38
  not
• 9:38
  good
• 9:39
  for
• 9:39
  our
• 9:39
  communities.
• 9:39
  Right.
• 9:40
  The
• 9:40
  native.
• 9:40
  I've
• 9:41
  heard
• 9:41
  from
• 9:41
  a
• 9:41
  lot
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  native
• 9:41
  communities
• 9:42
  here
• 9:42
  that
• 9:42
  they
• 9:43
  plan
• 9:43
  for
• 9:43
  seven
• 9:44
  generations.
• 9:44
  Right?
• 9:45
  The
• 9:45
  way
• 9:45
  that
• 9:46
  we're
• 9:46
  working
• 9:46
  right
• 9:46
  now,
• 9:46
  we're
• 9:47
  not
• 9:47
  planning
• 9:47
  for
• 9:47
  seven
• 9:48
  generations.
• 9:48
  We're
• 9:49
  causing
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  lot
• 9:49
  of
• 9:50
  pollution,
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  lot
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  plastic
• 9:51
  use,
• 9:52
  single
• 9:52
  plastic
• 9:52
  use.
• 9:53
  Right.
• 9:54
  Even
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  paints
• 9:55
  that
• 9:55
  we
• 9:55
  use
• 9:55
  for
• 9:56
  our
• 9:56
  homes,
• 9:56
  construction
• 9:57
  materials.
• 9:58
  So
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  always
• 9:59
  like
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  go
• 9:59
  backwards
• 10:00
  a
• 10:00
  bit
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  see
• 10:00
  how
• 10:01
  did
• 10:01
  we
• 10:01
  do
• 10:01
  this
• 10:01
  before
• 10:02
  we
• 10:02
  had
• 10:02
  these
• 10:03
  new
• 10:03
  materials
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  are
• 10:04
  toxic
• 10:04
  to
• 10:04
  Our
• 10:05
  community.
• 10:06
  One
• 10:06
  of
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  things
• 10:06
  that
• 10:06
  I
• 10:07
  started
• 10:07
  looking
• 10:07
  into
• 10:07
  recently
• 10:08
  was
• 10:08
  straw
• 10:08
  houses.
• 10:09
  So
• 10:10
  people
• 10:10
  used
• 10:10
  to
• 10:10
  build
• 10:10
  houses
• 10:11
  out
• 10:11
  of
• 10:11
  straw
• 10:12
  bales
• 10:12
  and
• 10:13
  they
• 10:13
  would
• 10:13
  cover
• 10:13
  them
• 10:13
  with
• 10:13
  plaster
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  adobe
• 10:15
  and
• 10:15
  they're
• 10:15
  actually
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  lot
• 10:16
  more
• 10:16
  energy
• 10:16
  efficient
• 10:17
  and
• 10:18
  they
• 10:18
  can
• 10:18
  also
• 10:18
  be
• 10:18
  fireproof.
• 10:19
  So
• 10:20
  right
• 10:20
  now
• 10:20
  we're
• 10:20
  seeing
• 10:20
  all
• 10:21
  these
• 10:21
  issues
• 10:21
  in
• 10:21
  wildfire
• 10:22
  areas
• 10:22
  throughout
• 10:23
  California.
• 10:23
  Right,
• 10:24
  right.
• 10:24
  If
• 10:25
  we
• 10:25
  start
• 10:25
  building
• 10:25
  with
• 10:25
  these
• 10:26
  materials,
• 10:26
  they're
• 10:27
  non
• 10:27
  toxic,
• 10:28
  they're
• 10:29
  probably
• 10:29
  easier
• 10:29
  to
• 10:30
  build,
• 10:30
  and
• 10:31
  they
• 10:31
  could
• 10:31
  be
• 10:31
  really
• 10:32
  energy
• 10:32
  efficient.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:33
  so
• 10:33
  that's
• 10:33
  something
• 10:34
  that
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  would
• 10:34
  like
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  see
• 10:34
  us
• 10:35
  start
• 10:35
  getting
• 10:35
  into
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  start
• 10:36
  doing
• 10:37
  some
• 10:37
  pilot
• 10:37
  projects
• 10:38
  on
• 10:38
  these
• 10:38
  types
• 10:38
  of
• 10:39
  homes.
• 10:39
  How
• 10:39
  do
• 10:39
  we
• 10:40
  modernize
• 10:41
  these
• 10:41
  technologies
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  make
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  really
• 10:43
  nice
• 10:43
  looking
• 10:43
  home
• 10:44
  that
• 10:44
  doesn't
• 10:45
  have,
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  know,
• 10:45
  all
• 10:45
  these
• 10:46
  toxic
• 10:47
  paints
• 10:47
  or
• 10:48
  asbestos.
• 10:49
  Right.
• 10:49
  Or
• 10:49
  polyurethane
• 10:50
  foams?
• 10:51
  How
• 10:52
  do
• 10:52
  we
• 10:52
  start
• 10:52
  working
• 10:52
  backwards
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  rediscovering
• 10:54
  some
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  those
• 10:54
  techniques
• 10:55
  that
• 10:55
  we
• 10:55
  used
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  have?
• 10:57
  It's
• 10:57
  really
• 10:57
  fascinating.
• 10:58
  And
• 10:59
  before
• 10:59
  we
• 10:59
  started
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  podcast,
• 11:00
  you
• 11:00
  were
• 11:00
  telling
• 11:01
  me
• 11:01
  that
• 11:01
  you
• 11:01
  studied
• 11:02
  chemistry
• 11:02
  at
• 11:02
  Stanford.
• 11:03
  Yes.
• 11:03
  Have
• 11:04
  you
• 11:04
  always
• 11:04
  been
• 11:05
  passionate
• 11:05
  about
• 11:06
  environmental
• 11:07
  protection
• 11:07
  or
• 11:07
  is
• 11:08
  it
• 11:08
  a
• 11:08
  recent
• 11:08
  development?
• 11:09
  No,
• 11:10
  I
• 11:10
  think
• 11:10
  so,
• 11:11
  because
• 11:11
  I
• 11:12
  learned
• 11:12
  a
• 11:12
  lot
• 11:12
  of
• 11:12
  natural
• 11:13
  ways
• 11:13
  to
• 11:13
  do
• 11:13
  things
• 11:14
  back
• 11:14
  in
• 11:14
  Mexico.
• 11:14
  Right.
• 11:15
  So
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  was
• 11:15
  born
• 11:15
  in
• 11:15
  Mexico
• 11:16
  and
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  spent
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  lot
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  time
• 11:17
  there
• 11:17
  as
• 11:17
  a
• 11:18
  youth
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  we
• 11:18
  just
• 11:19
  didn't
• 11:19
  have
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  same
• 11:20
  technological
• 11:21
  advances.
• 11:21
  Right.
• 11:21
  That
• 11:22
  we
• 11:22
  had
• 11:22
  here.
• 11:23
  So
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  remember
• 11:23
  working
• 11:24
  in
• 11:24
  the
• 11:24
  garden
• 11:24
  with
• 11:25
  my
• 11:25
  grandfather
• 11:25
  and
• 11:26
  growing
• 11:26
  our
• 11:26
  own
• 11:26
  food
• 11:27
  right
• 11:27
  there
• 11:27
  in
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  yard.
• 11:29
  I
• 11:29
  remember
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  medicines
• 11:30
  that
• 11:30
  they
• 11:30
  used
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  give
• 11:30
  us.
• 11:31
  A
• 11:31
  lot
• 11:31
  of
• 11:31
  times
• 11:31
  you
• 11:31
  would
• 11:32
  go
• 11:32
  through
• 11:32
  a
• 11:32
  few
• 11:32
  natural
• 11:33
  medicines
• 11:33
  before
• 11:33
  you
• 11:34
  ever
• 11:34
  went
• 11:34
  to
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  doctor.
• 11:35
  Right.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:36
  so
• 11:36
  learning
• 11:36
  how
• 11:36
  to
• 11:38
  problem
• 11:38
  solve
• 11:39
  with
• 11:39
  what
• 11:39
  you
• 11:39
  have
• 11:40
  around
• 11:40
  you
• 11:41
  is
• 11:41
  just
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  really
• 11:41
  good
• 11:42
  technique
• 11:42
  to
• 11:43
  have.
• 11:43
  And
• 11:43
  I've
• 11:44
  always
• 11:44
  kept
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  with
• 11:44
  me
• 11:44
  and
• 11:45
  try
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  just
• 11:46
  simplify
• 11:46
  things
• 11:46
  for
• 11:47
  people.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:47
  how
• 11:47
  can
• 11:47
  we
• 11:48
  solve
• 11:48
  this
• 11:48
  here
• 11:48
  locally
• 11:49
  with
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  things
• 11:49
  that
• 11:50
  we
• 11:50
  grow,
• 11:50
  with
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  things
• 11:51
  that
• 11:51
  we
• 11:51
  have
• 11:51
  in
• 11:51
  our
• 11:51
  natural
• 11:52
  environment?
• 11:53
  Technology
• 11:53
  is
• 11:54
  wonderful.
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  mean,
• 11:55
  we're
• 11:55
  sitting
• 11:55
  here
• 11:55
  doing
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  podcast,
• 11:56
  but
• 11:57
  some
• 11:57
  of
• 11:57
  those
• 11:58
  traditional
• 11:58
  ways
• 11:58
  of
• 11:59
  living
• 11:59
  are
• 11:59
  really
• 11:59
  valuable
• 12:00
  as
• 12:00
  well.
• 12:00
  Things
• 12:00
  that
• 12:00
  we
• 12:01
  need
• 12:01
  to
• 12:01
  bring
• 12:01
  back.
• 12:02
  Yes.
• 12:02
  You
• 12:03
  know,
• 12:03
  you
• 12:03
  mentioned
• 12:04
  something
• 12:04
  really
• 12:05
  interesting
• 12:05
  about
• 12:06
  planning
• 12:06
  for
• 12:07
  future
• 12:07
  generations.
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  often
• 12:08
  think
• 12:08
  about
• 12:09
  that.
• 12:09
  I'm
• 12:09
  not
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  parent,
• 12:10
  but
• 12:10
  I
• 12:10
  have
• 12:10
  younger
• 12:11
  people
• 12:11
  in
• 12:11
  my
• 12:11
  family
• 12:12
  and
• 12:12
  I
• 12:13
  think
• 12:13
  about
• 12:13
  what
• 12:14
  they're
• 12:14
  inheriting
• 12:15
  or
• 12:15
  going
• 12:15
  to
• 12:15
  inherit
• 12:16
  from
• 12:16
  us,
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  it's
• 12:17
  really
• 12:17
  scary.
• 12:18
  It
• 12:18
  is,
• 12:19
  yeah.
• 12:19
  Right
• 12:19
  now,
• 12:20
  you
• 12:20
  know,
• 12:20
  even
• 12:20
  the
• 12:21
  oceans.
• 12:21
  Right.
• 12:22
  The
• 12:22
  health
• 12:22
  of
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  oceans
• 12:22
  right
• 12:23
  now
• 12:23
  is
• 12:23
  not
• 12:23
  looking
• 12:23
  very
• 12:24
  good.
• 12:24
  We
• 12:25
  talked
• 12:25
  about
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  Salton
• 12:25
  Sea
• 12:26
  earlier.
• 12:26
  We
• 12:27
  see
• 12:27
  that
• 12:27
  that's
• 12:27
  gone
• 12:28
  down
• 12:28
  about
• 12:28
  13ft
• 12:29
  in
• 12:29
  about
• 12:30
  20
• 12:30
  years.
• 12:30
  Thirteen
• 12:31
  feet.
• 12:32
  Thirteen
• 12:32
  feet,
• 12:33
  yeah.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  the,
• 12:34
  you
• 12:35
  know,
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  salts
• 12:35
  in
• 12:35
  there
• 12:35
  are
• 12:36
  concentrating
• 12:36
  the
• 12:37
  fertilizers
• 12:38
  that
• 12:38
  have
• 12:38
  been
• 12:38
  running
• 12:39
  in
• 12:39
  there
• 12:39
  for
• 12:40
  hundred
• 12:40
  years
• 12:40
  or
• 12:40
  so.
• 12:41
  Right.
• 12:41
  Pesticides,
• 12:42
  everything's
• 12:43
  concentrating.
• 12:44
  And
• 12:44
  a
• 12:44
  lot
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  that
• 12:44
  is
• 12:45
  more
• 12:45
  concentrated
• 12:46
  at
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  center
• 12:46
  at
• 12:46
  the
• 12:47
  deepest
• 12:47
  part
• 12:47
  of
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  ocean.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:48
  so
• 12:49
  as
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  sea
• 12:49
  continues
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  evaporate,
• 12:50
  it'll
• 12:51
  actually
• 12:51
  start.
• 12:53
  Start
• 12:53
  bringing
• 12:54
  out
• 12:54
  all
• 12:54
  these
• 12:55
  even
• 12:55
  more
• 12:55
  toxic
• 12:55
  things
• 12:56
  that
• 12:56
  we
• 12:56
  haven't
• 12:56
  been
• 12:56
  exposed
• 12:57
  to.
• 12:58
  Let's
• 12:59
  talk
• 12:59
  about
• 12:59
  the
• 12:59
  evaporation.
• 13:00
  A
• 13:00
  lot
• 13:00
  of
• 13:01
  people
• 13:01
  talk
• 13:01
  about
• 13:01
  the
• 13:01
  dust
• 13:02
  and
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  health
• 13:03
  effects
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  that,
• 13:05
  but
• 13:06
  there
• 13:06
  are
• 13:06
  some
• 13:06
  other
• 13:06
  concerns
• 13:07
  that
• 13:07
  people
• 13:07
  should
• 13:08
  have.
• 13:08
  Right.
• 13:08
  Regarding
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  Salton
• 13:09
  Sea.
• 13:10
  So
• 13:10
  UCR
• 13:11
  has
• 13:11
  been.
• 13:12
  UC
• 13:12
  Riverside
• 13:13
  has
• 13:13
  been
• 13:13
  putting
• 13:14
  out
• 13:14
  some
• 13:15
  lectures
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  talks
• 13:16
  about
• 13:16
  the
• 13:16
  health
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  water
• 13:17
  itself
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  that
• 13:18
  we're
• 13:19
  seeing
• 13:19
  because
• 13:19
  of
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  extremities
• 13:20
  of
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  water,
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  high
• 13:22
  salt
• 13:22
  concentrations.
• 13:24
  They're
• 13:25
  just
• 13:25
  very
• 13:25
  extreme
• 13:26
  bacteria
• 13:26
  that
• 13:26
  are
• 13:27
  surviving
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  they're
• 13:28
  also
• 13:29
  producing
• 13:29
  other
• 13:29
  things.
• 13:30
  So
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  cell
• 13:30
  membrane
• 13:31
  of
• 13:31
  some
• 13:31
  of
• 13:31
  those
• 13:31
  bacteria
• 13:32
  is
• 13:32
  what
• 13:32
  they
• 13:32
  call
• 13:33
  lps.
• 13:34
  And
• 13:34
  their
• 13:34
  theory
• 13:35
  right
• 13:35
  now
• 13:35
  is
• 13:35
  that
• 13:36
  LPS
• 13:36
  is
• 13:37
  in
• 13:37
  the
• 13:37
  sea
• 13:37
  breeze.
• 13:38
  So
• 13:38
  kind
• 13:38
  of
• 13:38
  when
• 13:38
  you're
• 13:38
  at
• 13:38
  the
• 13:39
  ocean,
• 13:39
  you
• 13:39
  feel
• 13:39
  a
• 13:39
  little
• 13:39
  sea
• 13:39
  breeze
• 13:40
  sometimes.
• 13:40
  Right.
• 13:41
  And
• 13:41
  we
• 13:41
  love
• 13:42
  that
• 13:42
  usually.
• 13:43
  But
• 13:44
  there's
• 13:44
  also
• 13:44
  a
• 13:44
  sea
• 13:44
  breeze
• 13:45
  coming
• 13:45
  from
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  Salton
• 13:45
  Sea.
• 13:46
  And
• 13:47
  that
• 13:47
  LPS
• 13:47
  is
• 13:48
  getting
• 13:48
  into
• 13:48
  the
• 13:48
  water
• 13:49
  molecules,
• 13:49
  it's
• 13:49
  getting
• 13:50
  onto
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  dust,
• 13:51
  and
• 13:51
  it's
• 13:51
  getting
• 13:51
  into
• 13:52
  our
• 13:52
  bodies
• 13:52
  and
• 13:52
  it
• 13:52
  could
• 13:53
  be
• 13:53
  causing
• 13:53
  inflammation
• 13:54
  response
• 13:55
  within
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  lungs
• 13:56
  of
• 13:57
  our
• 13:57
  population.
• 13:59
  Right.
• 13:59
  And
• 13:59
  one
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  things
• 14:00
  I've
• 14:00
  learned
• 14:00
  in
• 14:01
  doing
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  podcast
• 14:01
  is
• 14:02
  that
• 14:02
  the,
• 14:03
  the
• 14:04
  impact
• 14:04
  of
• 14:05
  asthma
• 14:05
  diagnoses
• 14:07
  in
• 14:07
  around
• 14:07
  the
• 14:08
  Salton
• 14:08
  Sea,
• 14:08
  especially
• 14:09
  among
• 14:09
  children,
• 14:09
  is
• 14:10
  really
• 14:10
  high.
• 14:10
  Yes.
• 14:11
  And
• 14:12
  so,
• 14:12
  yeah,
• 14:13
  so
• 14:14
  we
• 14:14
  really
• 14:14
  just.
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  think
• 14:15
  we're
• 14:16
  getting.
• 14:16
  It's
• 14:17
  another
• 14:17
  variable
• 14:17
  that
• 14:18
  we've
• 14:18
  uncovered.
• 14:18
  Right.
• 14:19
  Or
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  UC
• 14:19
  Riverside
• 14:20
  has
• 14:20
  helped
• 14:20
  uncover
• 14:21
  for
• 14:21
  a
• 14:21
  long
• 14:21
  time.
• 14:21
  It
• 14:22
  was
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  dust.
• 14:22
  It
• 14:22
  was
• 14:23
  just
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  dust.
• 14:23
  And
• 14:23
  our
• 14:24
  planning
• 14:24
  was
• 14:25
  revolving
• 14:25
  around
• 14:26
  the
• 14:26
  dust
• 14:26
  because
• 14:26
  that's
• 14:26
  the
• 14:27
  information
• 14:27
  we
• 14:27
  had.
• 14:28
  But
• 14:28
  now
• 14:28
  we
• 14:28
  have
• 14:28
  more
• 14:29
  information.
• 14:29
  Right.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:30
  now
• 14:31
  we
• 14:31
  can
• 14:31
  plan
• 14:31
  for
• 14:32
  both
• 14:32
  of
• 14:32
  those
• 14:32
  variables.
• 14:33
  And
• 14:33
  we
• 14:33
  need
• 14:33
  to
• 14:34
  keep
• 14:34
  looking
• 14:34
  for.
• 14:34
  There's
• 14:35
  probably
• 14:35
  more
• 14:35
  variables
• 14:36
  there.
• 14:36
  Right.
• 14:36
  So
• 14:37
  we
• 14:37
  just
• 14:37
  need
• 14:37
  to
• 14:37
  be
• 14:38
  open
• 14:38
  minded
• 14:38
  and
• 14:38
  continue
• 14:39
  to
• 14:39
  look
• 14:39
  at
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  research
• 14:40
  in
• 14:40
  depth
• 14:41
  and
• 14:41
  continue
• 14:41
  to
• 14:42
  evolve
• 14:42
  our
• 14:43
  plans
• 14:43
  to
• 14:43
  evolve
• 14:43
  with
• 14:44
  the
• 14:44
  research.
• 14:45
  So
• 14:45
  when
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  know
• 14:45
  better,
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  do
• 14:46
  better,
• 14:46
  as
• 14:46
  Maya
• 14:47
  Angelou
• 14:47
  says,
• 14:48
  Definitely
• 14:49
  one
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  reasons
• 14:49
  why
• 14:50
  we're
• 14:50
  here
• 14:50
  today.
• 14:52
  Anything
• 14:52
  else
• 14:52
  that
• 14:53
  you
• 14:53
  want
• 14:54
  our
• 14:54
  listeners
• 14:55
  to
• 14:55
  really
• 14:55
  take
• 14:55
  away
• 14:56
  from
• 14:56
  this
• 14:56
  podcast
• 14:57
  about
• 14:58
  what
• 14:58
  Indio's
• 14:58
  doing,
• 14:59
  what
• 14:59
  needs
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  be
• 14:59
  done?
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  think
• 15:01
  right
• 15:02
  now
• 15:02
  we're
• 15:02
  just
• 15:03
  having
• 15:03
  we're
• 15:04
  expanding
• 15:04
  our
• 15:04
  conversations
• 15:05
  Right.
• 15:05
  To
• 15:05
  all
• 15:06
  these
• 15:06
  leaders
• 15:06
  throughout
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  whole
• 15:08
  state
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  around
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  country.
• 15:09
  And
• 15:10
  I
• 15:10
  just
• 15:10
  got
• 15:10
  back
• 15:11
  from
• 15:11
  Yosemite,
• 15:12
  and
• 15:12
  there
• 15:12
  was
• 15:12
  a
• 15:12
  climate
• 15:13
  change
• 15:13
  conference
• 15:13
  that
• 15:13
  we
• 15:13
  went
• 15:14
  up
• 15:14
  there
• 15:14
  for
• 15:14
  policymakers.
• 15:15
  So
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  met
• 15:15
  with
• 15:15
  a
• 15:15
  lot
• 15:16
  of
• 15:16
  supervisors,
• 15:17
  council
• 15:17
  members,
• 15:18
  and
• 15:18
  we
• 15:18
  shared
• 15:18
  ideas.
• 15:19
  Right.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:19
  we're
• 15:20
  kind
• 15:20
  of
• 15:20
  going
• 15:20
  in
• 15:20
  debates
• 15:21
  and
• 15:21
  we're
• 15:22
  challenging
• 15:22
  each
• 15:22
  other's
• 15:23
  ideas
• 15:24
  so
• 15:24
  that
• 15:24
  we
• 15:25
  can
• 15:25
  sharpen
• 15:26
  each
• 15:26
  other
• 15:26
  up.
• 15:26
  Right.
• 15:27
  So
• 15:27
  that
• 15:27
  we
• 15:27
  can
• 15:27
  come
• 15:27
  back
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  home
• 15:28
  and
• 15:29
  have
• 15:29
  new
• 15:29
  strategies,
• 15:30
  vet
• 15:31
  our
• 15:31
  strategies
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  bit
• 15:32
  better
• 15:32
  with
• 15:32
  other
• 15:32
  professionals,
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  come
• 15:33
  back
• 15:34
  with
• 15:34
  better
• 15:34
  solutions
• 15:34
  here
• 15:35
  for
• 15:35
  our
• 15:35
  community.
• 15:36
  Well,
• 15:36
  Yosemite
• 15:37
  certainly
• 15:37
  is
• 15:37
  a
• 15:38
  beautiful
• 15:38
  place
• 15:38
  to
• 15:39
  have
• 15:39
  conversations
• 15:40
  about
• 15:40
  the
• 15:41
  environment.
• 15:41
  It's
• 15:42
  inspiring,
• 15:42
  I'm
• 15:43
  sure.
• 15:43
  Yeah,
• 15:44
  definitely.
• 15:44
  Well,
• 15:45
  again,
• 15:45
  I
• 15:46
  want
• 15:46
  to
• 15:46
  thank
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  for
• 15:46
  being
• 15:47
  here.
• 15:47
  Please
• 15:48
  come
• 15:48
  back
• 15:48
  and
• 15:49
  talk
• 15:49
  with
• 15:49
  us
• 15:49
  more
• 15:49
  about
• 15:50
  what's
• 15:50
  going
• 15:50
  on
• 15:50
  in
• 15:51
  Indio.
• 15:51
  Thanks
• 15:52
  for
• 15:52
  having
• 15:52
  me
• 15:52
  again.
• 15:53
  Absolutely.
• 15:54
  Anyone
• 15:54
  who
• 15:54
  wants
• 15:55
  to
• 15:55
  know
• 15:55
  more
• 15:56
  about
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  programs
• 15:57
  in
• 15:57
  Indio
• 15:57
  can
• 15:57
  actually
• 15:58
  visit
• 15:58
  a
• 15:59
  couple
• 15:59
  of
• 15:59
  web
• 15:59
  Pages,
• 15:59
  websites.
• 16:00
  There's
• 16:00
  Indio.org
• 16:02
  and
• 16:02
  there's
• 16:02
  Indiowater.org
• 16:04
  as
• 16:04
  well.
• 16:05
  I'd
• 16:05
  also
• 16:05
  like
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  invite
• 16:06
  anybody
• 16:06
  you
• 16:06
  know.
• 16:06
  Our
• 16:07
  city
• 16:07
  council
• 16:07
  meetings
• 16:07
  are
• 16:08
  open
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  public.
• 16:09
  We
• 16:09
  have
• 16:09
  a
• 16:09
  sustainability
• 16:10
  commission,
• 16:11
  community
• 16:11
  services
• 16:12
  commissions,
• 16:13
  and
• 16:13
  those
• 16:13
  are
• 16:13
  also
• 16:14
  available
• 16:14
  online
• 16:15
  if
• 16:15
  you'd
• 16:15
  like
• 16:15
  to
• 16:15
  watch
• 16:15
  those.
• 16:15
  So
• 16:16
  you
• 16:16
  can
• 16:16
  keep
• 16:16
  up
• 16:16
  with
• 16:17
  some
• 16:17
  of
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  things
• 16:17
  that
• 16:17
  we're
• 16:17
  doing
• 16:18
  through
• 16:18
  those
• 16:18
  public
• 16:18
  meetings
• 16:19
  as
• 16:19
  well.
• 16:19
  Perfect.
• 16:20
  Thank
• 16:20
  you
• 16:20
  again.
• 16:21
  Thank
• 16:21
  you.
• 16:22
  Thank
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  for
• 16:22
  joining
• 16:22
  us
• 16:23
  on
• 16:23
  this
• 16:23
  episode
• 16:24
  of
• 16:24
  Healthy
• 16:24
  Desert.
• 16:25
  Healthy
• 16:26
  youy.
• 16:27
  This
• 16:27
  podcast
• 16:28
  is
• 16:28
  a
• 16:28
  production
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  the
• 16:29
  Desert
• 16:29
  Healthcare
• 16:29
  District
• 16:30
  and
• 16:30
  Foundation
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  Palm
• 16:32
  Springs,
• 16:32
  California.
• 16:34
  For
• 16:34
  more
• 16:34
  information,
• 16:35
  please
• 16:36
  Visit
• 16:36
  the
• 16:36
  website
• 16:37
  dhcd.org
• 16:39
  Our
• 16:39
  annual
• 16:40
  conference
• 16:40
  site
• 16:40
  is
• 16:41
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• 16:41
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• 16:42
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• 16:44
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• 16:44
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• 16:45
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• 16:45
  available
• 16:45
  at
• 16:46
  most
• 16:46
  major
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• 16:52
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• 16:53
  and
• 16:53
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• 16:54
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