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Episode 295: The Daedalus Variations (SG-A 5.04) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Get it again, episode two hundred and ninety five, so
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: I could stargate Atlantis, Mitch and Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's dope, nothing, Everything's totally normal, totally.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: As per normal as it always is.
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  Speaker 2: That means how I normally look.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's with that you got? How would you you
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: had a ferry party in the way over here or are
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: you going to one?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. This is how
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'd say, let's address the elephant in the room.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: That's almost too close to being a puntintendenc. You're not
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: quite bad gremlins a gizmo. Gizmo is actually isn't always
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  Speaker 1: that's just how you get around.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just combing my head differently, okay, Yeah, right now, Hey,
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: to each their own.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, let your freak flag fly.
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: You know what, I may If this is what it
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: is to be a furry, then maybe I'm a furry. Yeah.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's something I need to investment.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: Especially because you've you've had the beard growing for like
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  Speaker 1: the last what six months or is it more like year?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so a bit more hair in the face
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  Speaker 1: and the years happening, Yes, just slowly playing on my backs,
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  Speaker 1: Brown Sugar mate, I'm with you, cave men. We've got
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: to clean the place up a little bit. Not because
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: we've got someone joining us like we did the other week,
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: just one person coming back like Brendan did. We've actually
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: got some special guests coming in you to the show
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  Speaker 1: first time in studio, which is a pretty big bloody
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  Speaker 1: feet considering they live halfway around the world. Yeah, all
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  Speaker 1: the I mean, I would like to say from LA,
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: but I've been told that's technically inaccurate. So California, California.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: It's very broad, so I can't be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Long Beach, Yeah, Long Beach International Correspondence.
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  Speaker 1: We did call you the the LA chapter, right, Jacob,
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  Speaker 1: let's go so last on the show you actually joined us.
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  Speaker 1: You've obviously sent him plenty of incoming transmissions email bags.
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  Speaker 2: We had a lot of really expert bad puns for.
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  Speaker 1: You that the chaper iPhone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, famously, someone didn't someone slign into the.
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  Speaker 1: D yeah and say that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would imagine the ones that Matt didn't you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't make the Cutah. Yeah, I forgot to tell
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  Speaker 2: you about that, Mitch. I posted on my Instagram because obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the day after they got in straight Starbucks
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  Speaker 2: and then someone slipped into my DMS replied to my message,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh is that chop chaper iPhone
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  Speaker 2: and cakeba.
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  Speaker 4: Real amount of offense to that. You know who you are.
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  Speaker 4: You know who you are. You know I'm the other one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the good I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely infit. We should have. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: we would have thought about it, we were nice people,
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  Speaker 1: we would have had you know, some like get in
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  Speaker 1: the Gate very specific merchandise, like some T shirts for
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: you guys to go home with and yours absolutely just
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  Speaker 1: would have had like a like a football jersey in
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  Speaker 1: the back. Just had Cacob you know, yeah all I
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  Speaker 1: mean Jacob.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Jacob does have one of our exclusive get
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  Speaker 2: into Gate Patreon T shirts.
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  Speaker 4: And guess who forgot to pack it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's okay. Look, you know you get a pack
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  Speaker 1: a light when you're coming from California.
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  Speaker 4: For all the souvenirs somebody, Yeah he's.
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  Speaker 2: Got how would you call it? Technically it's four Monopoly
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  Speaker 2: games that he's got to pack, but it's it's one
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: full Monopoly game and three Monopoly extension games. Now there's
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: like a whole like extension game that you can attach
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: to free parking, and another one you can attach to
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, and there's another one you can attach
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: to go to jail.
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  Speaker 1: Why you can go.
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  Speaker 5: To super jail?
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  Speaker 1: What super jail?
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  Speaker 2: Super jail is where you can be your best Trump
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  Speaker 2: and be super corrupt and you can like steal properties
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  Speaker 2: from within from within jail parking situation, the free parking.
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  Speaker 2: When you get a party wagon, you get extra token
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  Speaker 2: that's the gold party wagon. And when you get that,
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  Speaker 2: when you land on the free parking, if you land
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  Speaker 2: on anyone else's property, you don't have to pay rent.
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  Speaker 2: And if you land on a property that's unknowned, you
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  Speaker 2: buy it for free.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet.
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  Speaker 4: Not to mention, anytime you would put money in the bank,
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  Speaker 4: you put it in the free parking jackpot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anytime you buy property, so you never put
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  Speaker 2: any money into the bank. If you buy Mayfair for
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: four hundred dollars or whatever, it goes into the free
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: parking kitty and hotels.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: I'm so confused. I was following you for so long,
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  Speaker 1: but now it's just I want to be a part
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  Speaker 1: of it. Actually, Well, okay, so you guys here and
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: Maddie has been telling me for obviously, this plant, this
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: trip has been planned for a while, and he said, Hey,
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: the guys want to come in and record a pood
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, Jesus Christ, like, you're coming to Australia
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  Speaker 1: from America. You haven't got even two extra hours worth
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  Speaker 1: of stuff you want to do, but you want to
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  Speaker 1: come in and sit with us idiots and record a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here.
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  Speaker 2: Likely that you hear because this was the main event really,
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: to be honest, I love the podcast.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: I love talking about Startgate. I feel like you're wasting
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: your time a little bit.
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: You know, we kind of we strategically waited so we
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  Speaker 4: could do these episodes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know, okay, And it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we did all the two I took them to Australia Zoo.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: You know, they saw Crocs, I made them hold of Koala.
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  Speaker 2: I took them to dream World, I took them to
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: Movie World. All that we've done, all done, you know.
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  Speaker 1: We've we've done it all and this is just another
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: experience we have to tick off. Yeah, well we are.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize to whoever it was that's leading into my
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  Speaker 2: DMS with that great joke about Chopper, iPhone and Caker,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't I can't find it in my DMS to.
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  Speaker 4: Give your shout out because they were so ashamed.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe just in.
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  Speaker 1: Case this day ever came. Yeah, we are talking about
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  Speaker 1: episode four of season five of Atlantis, the Dadalus variations.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just crack in an old synopsis, guys and rip
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  Speaker 1: straight in a drive malfunction, I bored. A mysterious duplicate
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  Speaker 1: Daedalus sends the team jumping through various alternate realities where
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: they encounter send us to alien life forms, a searing sun,
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  Speaker 1: and a pitched space battle over Atlantis aka sliders compacted
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  Speaker 1: into a little episode.
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  Speaker 2: A pitched battle. What is that?
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  Speaker 1: A pitched space battle?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure what that means.
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  Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I've never I've never heard of that.
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  Speaker 4: So certainly, any time two different space space ships, like
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  Speaker 4: do a hyperspace jump into the same place, they're always
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: on the same angle. This one maybe they're just like, okay,
• 6:24
  Speaker 4: we'll have one on a different angle.
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  Speaker 2: So it's pitch pitch, I maintained. I maintained as a
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  Speaker 2: reason for that, there's a reason for that, and.
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  Speaker 4: It's the galaxies flatish.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like there's yeah, there's still a top and
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  Speaker 2: bottom of the Milky Way. Like I know that each individual,
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  Speaker 2: you know, solar system is on a different angle and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that, but it's a relative to the Milky
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  Speaker 2: Way or the Pegasus galaxy in this situation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, cool, that's one.
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  Speaker 2: There's still a top and bottom. How is that? That's one?
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  Speaker 4: Because of the implication.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to he's got in though, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was gonna say, did I know?
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about it.
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  Speaker 4: That's your free space.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take I'll tell you, I'll take you. That's one.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's four people here now, so my friend gets
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  Speaker 2: turned off. Mitch doesn't have to do it on his own.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, So you say my name again, Mitch.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: I feel about it.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: What do you think? I was really hoping it was
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: going to be the mitchn It just didn't work out
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll fix it in post. I leave it when we
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: do it, when we do it live. Yeah, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think?
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  Speaker 1: It is the longest one we have, So thank you
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  Speaker 1: for bearing with us. After the break, we'll come back. No,
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  Speaker 1: I actually really like I've said only a couple of
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: weeks ago in our uh the rank for the season
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: four and I said, I'd like you to forget the
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: word ring. I know what album like. Honestly, it's Monday.
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: It's fine, which means nothing in the podcast space, especially
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: when we're recording this far out from releasing it anywhere
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: we push on. Craig was here and I said, off hour, mate,
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: I've now said for fourteen seasons worth of the Stargate
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: franchise that well, rather more so thirteen. It was after
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: the first year, and I said, I'm going to really,
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: you know, at this time, I'm really going to start
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: jotting them down. I watched one episode great, obviously put
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: it there number two, better or worse, and then I
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: can actually come up with a rank before we're doing
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: it live, you know, basically, just as Brendan would be
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: saying now even listening to it, do what you're supposed
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: to be doing it? Do you work? This one, though,
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: really had me going, Okay, I've got to put this
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: into place, Like I've got a rough idea for the
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: first three, but as it was going along, especially that
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: first half, I'm like, I'm loving this. I just love
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: the the sci finess to this, and just like the
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: helplessness about the whole thing, like they've been in some
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: trouble before, and obviously it's episode four of a season.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: They're probably going to be fine. But at the same time,
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: I just liked the idea of like, it's one thing
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: to be stuck on the other side of the galaxy.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: It's another thing for the Stargate to not be working,
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: or to be a you know, gun point from the
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Wraith of the Guld or whichever show we might be watching.
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  Speaker 1: It's another thing to be uncontrollably traveling to different realities.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: And so I thought that they and not even just like, oh, well,
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: someone else is at the Helm. It's a broken machine.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: It's not someone you can reason with. So I I
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: really like this. I like the the sci fi concept.
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: It was it alternate realities or alternate universes.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: I knew, you know something you don't understand. I know
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  Speaker 1: what it is, but the residual radiation, it's exactly what we.
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  Speaker 2: Recorded when my double arrived on Atlantis from.
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  Speaker 1: An alternate reality.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe.
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  Speaker 1: It's a drive, all right, I didn't move.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's moved us into a parallel universe. Oh oh,
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: look at that parallel universe and reality used interchangeably.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're the debate was never about the word universe.
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  Speaker 4: It's about reality and timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: We definitely was not jumping into alternate timelines.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't alternate time line because in that timeline,
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: that Atlantis that we ran into was being attacked by
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: those weird Bolgie guys.
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  Speaker 4: So from a writing point of view, they would write
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: the word in this case reality or universe because.
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  Speaker 2: There was no time, there was no time travel.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that was what makes more sense for this story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: based on the technology that they're using.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: But if but if we go back to before I Sleep,
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: let's yeah, one of my favorites. Yet you'll hear Rodney
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  Speaker 2: use all three interchangeably, alternate universe, alternate reality, alternate timeline, right, which.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: I feel is because they have the time travel element of.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: That epis's correct.
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: So do we actually agree about this?
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I think I always I absolutely agree like with everything
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: that I'm saying, we always.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: Did it, which just like it's just what you you know,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's your right. How do you identify what
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: they're going through and at the time PM, yeah, back
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  Speaker 1: when this first came up, and yours your choice was whatever.
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: What was your what was your depending on the episode?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, okay's yes, But that was the thing
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  Speaker 1: at the time. I think because I came out of that,
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, we just argued for half an
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: hour over the same we actually agree with each other.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: It was just yeah, what you call universe cycle or
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: reality and what you call reality eyicle of timeline, I think.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: I think with There Before the Grace of God, it's like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that is an alternate timeline in a way that it's
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: it's that timeline played out differently because at a certain
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: point there was a vergence where something different happened, where
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: Tilk didn't join the s whatever the moment was, was
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: it Daniel didn't join the SGC or didn't go on
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: the or something. There was some point that and to me,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's you know, that was the separation point in
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  Speaker 2: the timeline that then created two separate universes slash realities.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Well, in that case, I think it is. I
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: think we had no problem with using the term timeline
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  Speaker 4: because it uses the quantum mirror, which yes, helps you
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  Speaker 4: to a different timeline without time travel.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it takes you to the to the same point
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: in time in a different reality, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you you applied that same sort of
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: terminology to, for instance, nineteen sixty nine, where then they
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: created another timeline, but you wouldn't call it that because
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: it's more time travel. But yeah, but then my brain
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: is starting to break.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But and I think this is where Brennan and
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: I finally sort of came to a sort of agreeance
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: and and a similar thing. It's like twenty ten, two
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: thousand and one, you know, that was its own thing,
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: whereas nineteen sixty nine was a paradox It was a.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: Bad example in my part.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more referring to those episodes.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, so something where it's a paradoxical nature, I'm happy
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: to just stick with an alternate timeline sort of situation,
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: but where where it is just specifically time travel within
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: the same sort of thing. So yeah, I think it's
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: all very comes down to what from a narrative. Yeah,
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: and and Brendan and I have agreed to It's like
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a very it's very different between arguing the
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: theoretical science of it versus a writing tool and what
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: you're trying to do to tell.
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  Speaker 4: More productive argument anyway, because it's all theoretical exactly exactly
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: gonna have the authority to say, oh, yeah, this fictional
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: technology is how we should refer to this.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, No, it's like, yeah.
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: How does it serve the story? What does it.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Mean speaking of like smart like tech stuff.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: Though Ridney got dropped as a child.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna take work probably.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, she said in the episode several times.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: I do want to talk in a couple of weeks
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: time about you know, what's the situation with like the
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: McKay parents. We'll talk about that, you know, Yeah, but
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I do want to get to that. But no, I
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: just noticed in this episode Taylor suddenly had lots and
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: lots of technology.
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: Yes crash course.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're like they're like, oh and ironically, because
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: you know, obviously we spoke about it back in First
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Strike and Ronan was like, they need to learn me
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: some science, and then he had the opportunity and then not,
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: but then Taylor obviously took the opportunity because yeah, like
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Rodney needed someone to like bounce off of and do
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: stuff and and Yeah, the other two were just too dumb,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: although I did love the moment when like, uh, they're
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: they're fighting towards the end, like they're they're you know,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: they get Ronan on the on the guns and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that, and he's just the complete opposite of Tilk,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: where he's like easy too and he's like I'm trying
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: that that that spoke to me on a on a deep,
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: deep level.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: When when Tik never spoke like that too. Yeah, finally, Yeah,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: we can't always talk down because he clearly was, and
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I you know, I stided with Shepherd, but also, goddamn.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Do I s I also feel like that's also McKay
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: being a bad influence on on Ronan, because like that's
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: how McKay would react. You know, McKay is, you know,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: he's chaos.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: But if McKay tries to break things, he won't break them.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: If Ronand tries to break things to die.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when he smashes the desk like that can that
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: can break? Whereas I feel like, yeah, Rodney's wrist is
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: going to break before the desk will.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Just I love them finding new ways to show how
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: beautifully arrogant Rodney is and when he gets onto the
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: ship realizes what's going on. He's like, oh, we're doomed.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: They're like no, no, know, like they're a little bit optimistic
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: because it's still early in the episode. They're like, yeah,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: we just found the problem. He's like no, no, no, one
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: of me has already tried and failed to clearly the problem.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Come man, come on, like work with us here.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: What was that one from a few weeks series? Like,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I've done it and I thought you said it was impossible.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I was right about that, but
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I was it is impossible, but I found a way,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: a different way to do it to me impossible. Yeah,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: he's great.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Like that that moment where they find the other team.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I just love how like they wait to explain it
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: to you, so it's like you come to the conclusion
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: about your about it yourself, and then you feel the
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: dread of oh that was another team trying to do
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: exactly what they're doing.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, because yeah, because like fourteen seasons. Then
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: you have to go are they robots? Are they replicators?
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Are they clones? Are they You just have to run
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: through it and they go, oh, that's actually an alternate.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for them to you know, essentially find
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: not a room full of bodies, but to basically show
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that this has been happening for a long time. Yeah, multiple,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: multiple like ripple effect.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: But every team died, they.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Get increasingly more decayed the further back down the room
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: you go, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's just skeletons games Game.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Of Thrones when the dragon skeletons skulls just get smaller
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: and smaller and smaller and smaller.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Well even just at like every level, like making it
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: making it scary, like the idea of this, I'm going
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: to get look for supplies, and Roddie's like, wouldn't wouldn't
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: old us have already done that? Like this is they
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: were on someone else's ship already, right, So it's like
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: they still died because they couldn't fix it and they
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: just you know ran out of food or whatever, you know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the energy, so that their life support systems went off.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't just about not being able to fix
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: the machine. It's like you might not be able to eat.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: And even from that moment they were leaving Rodney there
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to solve the problem and they said, okay, we're just
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: going to go look around. I'm like but even just
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: you walking around for the next hour two hours, you're
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: using up oxygen, you're using up your energy, and you're
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more thirsty by the
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: end of You're not gonna have any water. Like I'm like,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you should just sort of sit there and just conserve shit.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Like then it's gonna make Rodney more fatigued, and if
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: he can't solve it, then no one's going to be
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: able to. But yeah, like it's it was just a frightening,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: frightening idea for an episode.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is also why I kind of almost in
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a way a lot of time prefer cartoons to live
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: action because it's so much easier to do little Easter
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: eggs without having to like bring actors back or do
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: other things. But it's like, yeah, have all the dead
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: teams and stuff. But then because they were talking about
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: like resources and you know, food and all that kind
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: of stuff, I would just want over in the corner,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: just like a dead tealkin Jonas just with those containers
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: of ice cream from Prometheus Unbound or whatever. Then there
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: were yeah, and they're just sitting there with just like
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a spoon still hanging out of their mouth, but.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Just dead well till could want tater tarts.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: True.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, speaking of the actual ship itself, we
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: were watching and we finished the episode and I said, Jacob,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: go back to when they first entered the Daedalist, because
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I saw what I thought was a typo, because defence
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: is spelled with a C.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: On the brown Wooden says.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Defense with an S.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: But no, it says with the sea.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, but it says you, which is the United
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: States ships. So it is an American ship. So either
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: they spelled it and it's a typo, or it's the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Dadalist in this reality is Canadian.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Because defense defense with the sea would would be how
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: we would spell it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Too, right, yeah, yeah, but not American.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, America. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: The fact that that it's it's a wonderful type of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you know, show was setting where that probably is a typo,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but it works into the story kind of. Yeah, it's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the film makes not intentional ultimate reality.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: They spell it different.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: It still says uss though, which it's Americans.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: So it's just the Americans adopted the different spelling.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: No, at some point in that universe, Canada took over
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: America and then you all finally learned proper English and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: started using it and started using the metric.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: System, so that Trump will here just that snippet they're
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: talking about it. We need to take Canada again. Let's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: do it. Startle that up over again.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be happy. Holy I've googled it. Any Australian
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: defense force defenses spelled with a C in Australia. So yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: so yeah, we never would have picked that up because
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: that would have just looked right to us. Oh yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's only that you guys are here to spot that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I thought I was going crazy for a second. I
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: was like spelling it in my head. I'm like, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: can I can spell words.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: According to them, you can't.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You can spell correctly, spell words, you're not always correct.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: You leave out a lot of us.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: But other than that, hey, they charge us by the letter.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just trying to conserve. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: But it works, which is right. I think it works
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: in this episode a little bit.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's a good cop out the very least.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get a what do they call it,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a a plea bargain? You get a plea bargain on
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in that sequence where they're exploring where they were like, okay,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: we got to try to find food, and they go
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: to the storage the storage room. I was looking at
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: some of those boxes and they said, do not ring transport. Yes,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's a cool detail, because like, why
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: would ring transporting be dangerous to whatever's in those You
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: see what was in it? Right?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, And yeah they mentioned that in the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: auto commentary. Was just a little just easter egg that
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: they just put in for it.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I noticed it without having to hear it in
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: the auto commentary.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I saw that too.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You had no option?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Oh no, you did.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: They watched it on my DVD's for the first time.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: They watched this episode here, yeah.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah. Do you not have the firewall that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we have?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Like, well, yeah, so Jacob's got THET the M Plus.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: No, No, you don't need it in the States. You
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: just have the I just have a Prime subscription suscription
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and I watch.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, when he logged into his Prime here at
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: my house, it yeah, that's extra. Yeah, so they had
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to watch it in low rez on my DVD. They
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: also hadn't watched the Seed yet, so I left the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: room while they watched the Seed.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Do that again.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: No, originally told him to skip it, but then I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, that'll like at that point, l had
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: only seen Search and Rescue, so she didn't know about
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the whole Wolzy situation. So it's like, haha, you've got
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to watch the Seed actually watched. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: glad I was upstairs.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: It's like the story of that episode was good, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the theme.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, yeah, the color thing was so weird.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird. This one was a weird journey
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: as the first time, because this is happening. They're just
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: uncontrollably jumping from reality to reality.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And Roddy's like, let me, let me like slam the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: gas on so we do it quicker as well.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like that that might help. Thinking as
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: as an idiot viewer, it'd be kind of fun if
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: like they figured out how to just you know, do
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it backwards, because otherwise, you know, like sliders, you know.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It was like, we're just gonna have to keep jumping
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: until hopefully we end up back in our own but
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it's infinite. We probably will never get back, but we
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: might get lucky. And I thought that's what these guys
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: are facing, except they've got the ticking time bum of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: this drive that's going to just go could put and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the fact they're running out of you know, probably life
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: support and more importantly food and water. But it'd be
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: nice if they were to put it in reverse. And
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: then they bring that up and he's like, we can't
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just do that, and I'm like, yeah, stupid Mitch, Yeah, no,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we can't. We well, we can't do that. That's that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was such a dumb obvious thing to think of. I
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to get out of it. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: then we get another ten minutes in it's like, hey,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I figured it out. We're actually just gonn have to
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: put it into reverse. I'm like, oh god, damn. That
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: was That was actually something that both me and Shepherd
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: thought of.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: But I get that rating techno jargon is difficult, but
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I would have liked to get a little bit more
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: of an explanation of what the hell actually he did,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: because like just like just slam it in reverse, like
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: no shit, yeah, but like, you know, what did he
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: do to the drive to make it work in reverse?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I would have liked to know.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like we're getting more and more
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: complicated too, like if anything, Like in the real world,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: technology gets smaller and smaller and smaller until the until
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the inventive internet porn and then phone suddenly got bigger
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and bigger and bigger. But it's like you start with sliders,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: they were doing that with like a TV remote.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Then you get to the start of Stargate and they've
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: got the quantum mirror. Big. Now we need an entire
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Daedalous class battle cruiser to jump through alternate you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: realities and universes, And I'm like, shouldn't it technology be
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: getting smaller?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Well, but you can take the whole ship with you with.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: A giant porn screen, now I understand. Yep, that makes sense.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: That checks out. Yeah, that's what it is. There's the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: big movie room on the dead List, So.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: It's a window, not a screen for the Unfortunately, it
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: would work if it was a star.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Ship and the windscreen wipers on the inside, you know
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: So the added peril too, I think, especially at the end,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, surely enough, we're going to get more
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of these guys rock up. But like during that was
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: not something that I I think that I like, it
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was enough of a threat. This episode, we didn't actually
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: need like a physical like gunfight sort of thing.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing, just as.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: We were kind of getting a handle of Okay, as
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: long as we get away from these ships, well we
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: final will jump through. And obviously they had to deal
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: with the star and being so close and all that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But it was like, okay, yeah, why
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: not just throw something else into the mix and spice
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: things up a bit.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: We've got these I have a theory on that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, stupid theory, but hear me out. I was like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: what if Daniel Jackson just translated everything wrong and those
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: were actually the Furlings and alternate reality and oh shit,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: they're not furry at all.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: They actually look like lizards.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Great offense to that. So they're like, oh, you guys
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: were calling us the Furlings.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: It was like, it's so weird to have this random
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: alien race shop. Are they gonna show it?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: That That would also lean into maybe it was something
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that Peter Delawee said, whereas that maybe Daniel Jackson did
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: mistranslate furlings because an anagram of furlings is fun girls.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those then look like fun girls. I don't know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: it's a good time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: That's been bothering me this whole show. I want to
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: see the furlings.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you did in two hundred.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Well but like not really.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: No, they're canon to me. That's how they look their
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: little Kenyan with those years.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, my people, I'm a furling right now, Yes you are. Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: think about that. I make a fun girl apologize.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: My head is not the game that otherwise, Yeah, we
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: would have got.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: The issue I had with those things is at no
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: point did John or Ronan pick up any of those
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: green blasters.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, man, like, come on, guys, but.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: They use it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't bring any home with them, Like
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in the same way back in this Mortal Coil when
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Ronan met his replicated duplicate, that guy should have handed
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: over his blust and Ronan could have been double fisting
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: blasters this whole time.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, so they could have.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: They should have gotten some of those and brought them
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: back to our universe. Right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: That seems very uncharacteristic of I feel like I'd be like, oh,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I'm taking it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Something that rivals his particle and whatever it's called.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at first I thought that's what they were
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: telling us, that it was another one of those, like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I was getting really excited. But as we've seen in
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the show, it's like any time that we have an
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: opportunity to have another one, we absolutely have that taken
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: away from Yes, so absolutely, yeah, it looked.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Like the Super Nintendo Blaster, just like.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of did remind me of remember the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: lizard guys that when we first meet vala tacle that's it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they had gun I might even been
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: like a repaint of that that one, I think, but yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: very very similar to that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: It would have been like a huge wink to the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: audience with that, I get the intent would not be
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to do it in a bad way, but to have
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: made it. The Fairlings, like we went through the entirety
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of SG one, never get to see them except for
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: what Maddy considers to be canon, and for them to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be revealed even after the fact, after we've shot the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: last one that they're revealed to be the Furlings, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we were introducing them in the fourth
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: episode of the spin off show in season five, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: we're not doing anything with them, like like what they
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: do sometimes in movies these days, where shit, you know
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is not what we expect. Well, that's what makes it good.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It's subverting your expectations. Like that doesn't mean it's clever
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: or good. And that would have been this right, like
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: because I thought the same thing. I'm like, they're not
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: just another human oil. Well they're humanoid, but they're not
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just like humans there, They've got different texture. They're lizard people. Like,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that's for a purpose. You're not just doing that one
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: makeup job for one episode, as as voiceless, faceless bad
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: guys bringing back at the end of the season or
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: something that Maddie knows better than I do and who
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: else in the room knows better than I. You do
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: barely remember whether you're watching this for the first time
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I was. I was just suddenly making guy contact with
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Jacob when you were making that whole that whole conversation.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: About the week.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Look straight, were nice to see these guys what we
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: may or may not see at some point between now
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and the final episode of this season.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Well, they do know this is the final season of Atlantis.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I remember very little. I remember a certain celebrity cameo.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And that's the episode I'm talking about.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Really, you got a gray alien with the Nelly d
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: in its face.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I think we've been talking about a different
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about a a Stargate celebrity.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, a celebrity who was not Yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just looking at match like.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, totally.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Two separate conversations.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: It's easy moment to I want to take the headphones
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: off and just like maybe go outside let them talk.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So it's in the pod, ed you have to edit it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Call it a smoker smoking.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've got these two addicted to pies and.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: What do we just like standard.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Or what did you guys do?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I go standard?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, ironically, poor L. She went to order her
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: first pie, like on herself for the first time, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: she asked the person back, you know what, what do you.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Recommend because they're out of the one that I knew.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you will make l cuneat beef. She gets. She
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: gets an upset tummy, so they went, oh yeah, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I was really good. So he sold
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: her a chunky cheese. She didn't. She didn't realize that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: would be of course.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just throw some dairy in there as well, really
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: spiced things up that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: That didn't go down too well. But yeah, the sausage
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: roll I feel I feel like we've done more sausage
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: rolls at this point too.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah you have you hooked on doing it with the
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: tomato sauce.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the way to go. Yeah. Lambington's too,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Gonna looked on Lamington's.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Because I didn't like them the first time I tried it,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: because Matt brought the packaged ones when he came.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Like the ones from Coal's just in Yeah.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Whereas I think we if we were to eat them,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: you eat them knowing that they're below standard.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a twinkie, you know. It's like.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I don't I had one, don't bother really.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Just to say you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Have I did. I did think it was interesting in
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: this episode, No Woolsey, I mean I appreciate it. I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: wrote that down to yeah, yeah yeah. And for a
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: minute it felt weird that like Larne was running the show.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, so, why are we getting in Lorn
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: when we probably already had to pay Woolsey for this episode?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: What's going on? And then when it was the end,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we need a pilot. We need someone
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: who's been aware of it to be able to jump
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in a puddle jumper and go and rescue and like,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: oh okay, now it makes sense.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I really liked seeing Lauren in the Command Decisions.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, he's been in the episodes a lot more recently. Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Actually this might be a hearttache for Atlantis fans, but
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I like.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Him a lot better than Shepherd. Oh yeah, Shepherd's boring
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I think Maddie's been getting so frustrated the last couple
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: of weeks. He's been sharing with me how much he's
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you phrase it?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I remember there's.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Something of Shepherd, but it's just like they're making like
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: them building his legend in real time.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, and making him I probably rage blacked it out.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Always like John John, John be rude to me and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: my baby John.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: We're not around to do it anymore, so someone's got
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: to do it. That.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I was being a little bit less sticky, because that's
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: how that's how Taylor says, it's a little less breathy
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: than we're.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, she'll say, She'll say Colonel Shepherd, then she'll
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: say John.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: She'll like Colonel Shepherd, John, but Colonel.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: John, well, at least at least he got to hold
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the baby at the end. You know, that was obviously
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a thing for Rodney that he wasn't allowed to hold
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the baby.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Well he dropped it. Yeah, why would she let him
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: hold him?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Well, Toring didn't land. He like Rodney said, like, he
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: only fell like two feet and then he caught him.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: So oh so I thought, see I heard like that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he fell. I thought that he heard he fell afoot,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: But he didn't like the deck sort of thing.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: And look, what are you doing holding a baby a
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: foot from the ground, Like that's just asking.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: For trouble, that's just sitting down.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: How low are you sitting on the ground if a
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: baby only falls a foot? Well, that's true, that's true.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you know sometimes you know sh'd happened.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So we when he told my my boy's about to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: turn thirteen, and we were telling him a couple of
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, how he got like hammered. He was in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: his pram and we're going like a slight ramp.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Just like I've got to translate that for you. His
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: pram is.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: The stroller stroller?
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Are you translating hammered differently than we would translated as drunk.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I think depending on how you're using it. You slammed, Yeah,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Maddie understood what I meant, like, yeah, my baby got hammered.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, well he copped a big hit. If
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Maddie, I could have it on the weekend.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, runk absolutely, yeah, contact dependent yeah yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And see, like you said, you're you paid by the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: by the letter, we paid by the words. So sometimes
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: we have you know.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta combined four words and also we're lazy.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: We're going to combine four words into two consonants and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: a vow kind of thing.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: You could have seventeen different meanings. It's it's all fine.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he flew out of the stroller and well
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: next year he didn't fly. Sorry. It was like it
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was like the brakes went on the front wheel and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the whole thing just tipped forward and then he fell
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: out and oh my god, like he was he was
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a matter of weeks old.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: And we that Lewis big head kicked in and in
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: top heavy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he must and must have saved him, like
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it was shitting ourselves. So when Rodney said that, I'm like, yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't let you hold my baby either, I get it,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: but then she was nice enough at the end of
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: bringing back and I like the idea of was it
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: when who said you're going to be a great you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: could be a great father, you would be was it?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Was it? Taylor said you you look like you would
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: make an amazing fast and all of a sudden, He's like, oh,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hold it anymore. Gross. Like I
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like the idea of holding it until you tell me
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I could do this full time.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All my nieces and nephews, like for the first
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: year of their lives, I don't even want to know them.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, keep it away from me. It's too fragile.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a baked potato. Just take it away,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and when it's older and less fragile, then we'll be cool.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: We'll be friends. Same with your kids. Like now that
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: James is like twelve, I'm like, we're bros. You, me
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and him are bros. Yeah, Sophie. Sophie needs a couple
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: more years. She still seems a little fragile.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, how dare you?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Whereas four four?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Will Will's my guy. Me and Will we pals.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Luke still scares me.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what separates me from other other men. Guys.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh god, pregnant women gross and children talk
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to me when you're three, and I'm like, no, give me, baby,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: give me, give me pregnant body love.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just like you're just like, you know, smack
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: my face with that Audie belly button kind of situation. Yeah,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: basically basically, Yeah, that we already got up all in
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that I.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Did several times all here we are anyway about.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: We didn't have didn't have fourteen grand Yeah, from that
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: thing that's going on in.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Good good call back in China, China, which is a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: matter of weeks ago now that we're playing this out
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: there was about the robotic Oh yeah, yeah.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I think women. I mean, it's not like they liked
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: women anyway.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: But one little thing before we wrap up, I did
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: want to say is it's the Star Wars episode eight
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: school of thought on how physics work. When we through
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the Dedalescent reverse and Roddie made the whole point about, Okay,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: we're going to fire up the thrusters and stuff to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: get us away from the Sun because our relative position
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: in space transfers between universes. So we were on the
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: way out and then we get to the next universe
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: where we were being pursued by the aliens, and then
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: somehow a fleet of three O twos shows up to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: save us. But they would have had to have come
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: from the planet, so they would have been even further away.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how the physics works of that,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: because they also didn't come from behind. They came from
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: like in in another direction. So I don't understand where
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the fleet of three O twos came from to help
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: save us.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: At least they made it makes sense that the that
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: the alien ship was behind them, yes, okay, And then
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: so you could you could argue that the three OHO
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: twos came from another ship, maybe the Apollo or something
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: that also came from behind, and the skirted around.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And they like time had passed the same amount. Yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: so it' had been not that long really, And so
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like Shepherd two point zero said, hey, you were firing
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: on those guys that were firing on us. The least
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we could do was come and help you.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: So maybe me when they came out earlier, they thirty
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: minutes ago, so they were already like maybe chasing that
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: ship or something.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I just yeah, I would have
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: liked something. I would like a little more, a little
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: just give me a graphic, just one little extra graphic
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: on the white Boy. Yeah, give me a white Boy
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: work out some ship up there, Yeah, give me, just
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: give me a little something something.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: You know. One moment I thought was funny was when
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Shepherd says, why is the blast door closed when McKay's
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: working on the thing when we come back to it later.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And I'm expecting the answer to be because
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: we blew the CGI budget on the cool ship shots outside?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Ye aren't you paying attention? Yeah?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Also that also the only acceptable response in the Target
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: universe is it's a blast door.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeahs as the fellow first time watcher. And I say
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: this because I didn't. I had no idea, lle But
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: when they were like, Okay, we can't get to the jumper,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: there's no way off this ship, and and Atlanta's not
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: going to be able to get to us in time
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: to be able to get us off the ship, like
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you know, ring us off essentially beam us off. How
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: did you think they were going to get off that ship?
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: So like obviously it disappeared. I'm like, well, obviously they're
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: out there somewhere, but what are they in the idea
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: they would just sit there floating in space suits. I'm like, oh,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that that scares me. Like even if if it's an
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: astronaut up off the space station, like they can see Earth,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: they're tethered. But the idea that if something happens and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: they're just floating in space, potentially floating off into into space,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that scares the ship out of it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So they cut at the end of season niner Ros
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: after that Big Space has left. They're just been like
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the hell Now.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: When I say fifty five million kilometers or fifty five
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: million miles, of which one of they use Canadian America
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: can kilometers, I think I think kilometers.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: It's like half a million kilometers or something.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it was a fair chunk away
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: from Atlantis, right is he seeing it?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Is how big is Atlantis to that point? Is it
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: like a dot? Is a little bit Like they're they're
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: floating in the middle of nothingness hoping that someone's going
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to come to their rescue. That just scared the shit
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: out of me. So I don't know whether you had
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: an idea of like, oh, well they'll just jump in
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the bathtub and the it'll seal and you know, like
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: something that there would be another capsule at this somewhere.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I kind of like you said
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: it census so early in the season, I know they
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: weren't going to just die, but don't hate me. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: actually predicted that they would use space suits because in
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: a couple episodes previous, Shepherd used a space suit.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: When they sucked all the air out in midway.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So I thought like, oh, that would be a cool
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: callback if yeh, space.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Suits, and I was I was a little less practical.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I was hoping for some kind of weird human centipede
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: kind of situation with the aliens, where the or somehow
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: we're just able to just like create a little mouth
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: suction around around the aliens and then they were just
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: maybe those aliens had like really big lungs and they
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: were just using air out of those guys or something.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: But I don't want to know your last alas.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: This is why I don't write science fiction.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: But I mean it was like a last ditch effort,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: So I think it's kind of clever that, oh.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: It's not some fancy tech.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, space suits.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it would be like super desperate, like you're
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: not gonna like this. We have to just jump out
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: the three two the three or two bay into space,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: but not too fast or else will float away.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he had the speed, Like, however fast they
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: jump out, they're going to maintain that speed.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Were they tethered to each other, I couldn't see.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, they just hold hands.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Lauren pulls up like.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like in that situation, Ronan's probably more than
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: anyone shitting himself, Like I feel like Taylor might be
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: able to hold it together.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because that's because also we know that you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Ronan's head doesn't fit in those space suits, so he
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have he would have created a seal. Yeah, he
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: would have had to have shaved his head for that
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: just to even try and get in.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this was.
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Taylor's first mission back, right like officially.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: With the team.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's having her.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: What's the baby's I don't remember. I remember torn that's right,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: but very nice. But I have like a little qualm
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: with the title.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look down on your panel, there there's
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a little button called this cough.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I am having fun playing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it also works for a burp if you're just
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: just so you know.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Do you hear that on your mic?
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: There's there's there's not a burp button, there's a cough button,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: but you can you can just press that mic off.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, we absolutely could have moved on,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and it was trying to do the professional thing. Maddie
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and I know so much. We're just gonna play you
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: know what, might not we might not even keep it
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: in the edit.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: It was just yeah, but it'll make it in the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: in the are you are you? Maybe that's what you
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: should do for the end of Atlantis or maybe the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: end of universe is you should do that super cut
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of all the things that you've been editing out. That'd
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: be fun all the things and that we can we
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: can release that as episode.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: There are episodes. I think I need to just go
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: back and even edit the ship that I did keep
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: in from way back when, like I don't want to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you know, Disney plus this instead of go back and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: yeah things, you know, or put warning labels on and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Brendan before you drive off the road, I'm not doing that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like that's when he changes the password
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to the YouTube, so you can't change those.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like from the ship back
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: then where we just didn't care, we kept you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: we cut ship out.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Then when we didn't care. Let me introduce you to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. M that's fine, okay,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: well what is it next week? What's that? What do
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: we ghost in the machine? Yes? Sweet? Ye means nothing
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to me?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Means nothing to me too, A very different interesting How
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: do think I ever saw that?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Perhaps even the anime original matter. You've got us going
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: back to Noote Okay, nothing of the sort. Well, that'll
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: just be you and I because Jake and el here
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: have to go and explore more of the country before
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: returning into podcast time.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Their visas expired.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, until we can get the people, and I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: have no doubt that that will all be fixed up
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: by the time that we come back in two episodes.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Time to talk about the shrine.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely confidence podcast magic.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It's a real shame that this is an audio medium,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: because I just feel it. I do, but do just
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: anyone listening on the podcast that that begs to be
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: seen with the ears especially I hope.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: You know, anyone knows the magic that the double clap
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and the.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Spirit fingers, just to just to it once more and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: everyone just imagine what Maddie's doing.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to close my eyes podcast magic.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, I can see it. I can see it just
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: as if it was right across the now.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: You'll never be able to unsee it. Get into Geek,
• 42:45
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• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Get into it now before it's too late.