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Hrvoje Morić on BRICS, Multipolarity, and Globalism | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: My name is Jim.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jim Wolfare the Battle of Ideas from William Wick.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me in the trenches.
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  Speaker 1: Always great to chat.
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  Speaker 2: I was just asking you a moment ago, how is
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  Speaker 2: the information war treating you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Well, as I you know, I I when I was
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  Speaker 4: a teenager running a supermarket in Chicago, I became friends
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  Speaker 4: with the World War two veteran would always chat and
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  Speaker 4: he would say, no news is no news is good news.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, so everything's sort of on autopilot in
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  Speaker 4: terms of the work. But you know, there's a shrapnel
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  Speaker 4: flying all over the place. I had Peter Levelle attacked
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  Speaker 4: me recently as a result of, you know, the article
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  Speaker 4: I wrote and some of the podcasts that I've been doing,
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  Speaker 4: and so but you know, it's it's there's attacks from
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  Speaker 4: all sides. There's accolades from all sides. I'm sure you
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  Speaker 4: sense that, and you just get used to it. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's it's part of the program. So I don't I
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  Speaker 4: don't mind.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that article also engined me, so that quote
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  Speaker 2: my attention, but.
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  Speaker 1: I also mentioned myself as well. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: were mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: So but I mean it's as listen, it's a great,
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  Speaker 2: great article, and that's why I want to discuss it
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  Speaker 2: with you, because it is a huge piece.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know where you like to start.
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  Speaker 4: You know, off Guardian just republished the James Corbett share it,
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  Speaker 4: and so where to start.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's steal man the argument first and then bold
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  Speaker 2: on that. So basically, great me. If I'm wrong, you're
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  Speaker 2: making the argument that bricks slash multipolarity as we see
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  Speaker 2: it currently is all just one big siop. It's part
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  Speaker 2: of the globalist agenda.
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  Speaker 1: Effectively.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I don't like using the term siop
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  Speaker 4: because it's not as academic. But I mean I can
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  Speaker 4: give you countless books and material as I cite in
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  Speaker 4: my article that you know, I'm coming at this from
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  Speaker 4: a biblical worldview, and so to get that out of
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  Speaker 4: the way. But even if we strip that away, my
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  Speaker 4: argument is the same. You know, Book of Revelation thirteen
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  Speaker 4: says that we will fall under the control of a
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  Speaker 4: world state.
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  Speaker 1: It says, you know, the whole earth marveled as.
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  Speaker 4: They follow the beast which was given allowed to exercise authority.
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  Speaker 4: It says over every tribe and people and language and nation.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't say over all the world except Russia, except China,
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  Speaker 4: except Brazil, you know. Or you look at all these
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  Speaker 4: books of world government, you know, the idea of world government,
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  Speaker 4: one world democracy. It's not world government except there's no exceptions, right.
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  Speaker 4: And so as a detail in my article, and I
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  Speaker 4: talk about these Pentagon active measures. So people that are
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  Speaker 4: at talking me who are saying, you know, Beijing and
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  Speaker 4: Moscow are behind this move for this communist world government,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, no, that is wrong. That is an
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  Speaker 4: active measure, which I call you know, they call it
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  Speaker 4: Russian active measures. I'm calling them Pentagon active measures. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to be fair here. And the drive for
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  Speaker 4: world government has always come from the West, Europe, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Roman Empire, Europe, Washington, London, Brussels. And my argument is
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  Speaker 4: that every time we're progressing towards this world state, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when have we not progressed all throughout thousands of years
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  Speaker 4: of history. It's just consolidation after consolidation. So we're not winning.
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  Speaker 4: And now the last piece of the puzzle is the
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  Speaker 4: West needs to integrate the global South. And they're selling
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  Speaker 4: it as bricks. And in fact, I was looking at
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  Speaker 4: it this morning. I haven't read this book. But this
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  Speaker 4: is a classic book from Holly Sklar on trilateralism. And
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  Speaker 4: you know one thing she says here, she says East
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  Speaker 4: West relations the corporate one world economy must also include
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  Speaker 4: the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, and China. Trilateralists want to
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  Speaker 4: see those see these regions they call dropouts, return to
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  Speaker 4: the school of Western capitalism. And then this also echoes
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  Speaker 4: what I said in my article. This is from like
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  Speaker 4: half a century ago where they're talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: one of their options is a truly international monetary system
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  Speaker 4: where especially third world nations, their economies would be more
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  Speaker 4: efficiently and totally integrated with the economies of the trilateral
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  Speaker 4: nicis trilateral nations with the single monetary system. The system
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  Speaker 4: would be managed by the US with the IMF, and
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  Speaker 4: it says including token participation by selected third world powers.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that like bricks?
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, I found this just recently Nicholas Haggar,
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  Speaker 4: who's former British intelligence Okay, and he's writing in his
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  Speaker 4: book where he talks about there is the Western globalist
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  Speaker 4: new world order. You have a Russian version that's not
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  Speaker 4: as strong, and a Chinese version that's not as strong.
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  Speaker 4: And basically he says that this Western version, the syndicate
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  Speaker 4: which he calls it, has sought to create a new
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  Speaker 4: world order since Rockefeller called for world federalism. And basically
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  Speaker 4: he's saying, you know, they own the banks in the East,
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  Speaker 4: and then they're trying to bring in the global South.
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  Speaker 4: And so as I go through my article, I use
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  Speaker 4: the example of the EU. Right this this book Mark
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  Speaker 4: Corner who says from European Union to World Union. And
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  Speaker 4: in my article, like there's no escaping from it. The
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  Speaker 4: Mexican president literally says, copy the EU to North America.
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  Speaker 4: Bukele literally says, copy the EU to Central America.
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  Speaker 1: Correa of Ecuador.
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  Speaker 4: Literally, he literally says, like this is the thing that
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  Speaker 4: boggles your mind. I'm not even exaggerating here. He says,
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  Speaker 4: let's copy the EU to South America. And then I
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  Speaker 4: found a whole bunch of sources that say Pucin's Eurasia
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  Speaker 4: is a copy of the European Union, as is Asian
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  Speaker 4: you know, East Asia, China's you know.
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  Speaker 1: Version and so.
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  Speaker 4: And then you look at who coined bricks. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of my colleagues online are saying, yeah, bricks is a
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  Speaker 4: banker created Goldman. Yeah, and then people often mentioned just
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  Speaker 4: Jim O'Neil, but they forget to mention the co author
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  Speaker 4: of that report, whose name I can never pronounce in
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  Speaker 4: the article, this Indian lady who was a World Economic.
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  Speaker 1: Forum young global leader. And then you know, I found
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  Speaker 1: quotes from Council on Foreign.
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  Speaker 4: Relations going back to the seventies talking about how the
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  Speaker 4: US is pushing multipolarity upon Russia. Some people argue that
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  Speaker 4: that definition of multiplarity from the seventies and eighties is
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  Speaker 4: not the same as today.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm looking at that.
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  Speaker 4: Older definition and they're talking about regions and spheres, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, that sounds like the today's multiplarity. But whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and so effectively, Yeah, that's that's I think where we're at.
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  Speaker 4: And then they need to and you know, the global
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  Speaker 4: South has a lot of righteous as I said, the
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  Speaker 4: discontent of what the empire has done, the British Empire
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  Speaker 4: to China, to India, to Africa, you name it.
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  Speaker 1: But they have to sell it in a way to
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  Speaker 1: get people on board.
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  Speaker 4: And they've done this to us for ages, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in every different way. Whether it's Trump is gonna save us,
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  Speaker 4: it's the same dialectic, just applied in different ways. I've
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  Speaker 4: had guests say this bricks, I call it Multipolaritista movement
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  Speaker 4: is like QAnon.
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  Speaker 1: International.
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  Speaker 4: Others have called it xon on and so yeah, that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of the core of my decents.
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  Speaker 2: So this fascinates me because I'm in South Africa and
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  Speaker 2: remember bricks, and I intrinsically do not like collectivization. However,
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  Speaker 2: I am experiencing the benefits of good trade relations with China,
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  Speaker 2: for example.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have that. No, I have a different view.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you can.
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  Speaker 4: It's looking at the long term view because they're setting
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  Speaker 4: up and the near term everything is going to be great.
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  Speaker 4: It's the hoymoon phase. I mean, you can have trade
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  Speaker 4: and benefits and in many different ways. I mean I
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  Speaker 4: just as you were talking, I was thinking, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm using Stripe to get payments to work from home
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  Speaker 4: like that. That's all great, you know, I'm making money
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  Speaker 4: working from home. But and I believe the time will come.
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  Speaker 4: This is all going to be locked down, centralized into place,
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  Speaker 4: and at some point they're just going to pull the
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  Speaker 4: lug and they're building. I mean, I was just reading
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  Speaker 4: every day the news is madness Kazakhstan, where I used
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  Speaker 4: to live.
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  Speaker 1: I found this article.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, they built Astana the capital, it was
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  Speaker 4: a step desert out of nothing, and now they're going
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  Speaker 4: to build a second, you know, twenty billion city of
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  Speaker 4: the future, a la Tao, and it says a LaTaO
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  Speaker 4: will be a smart city and will be developed under
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  Speaker 4: the principle digital by default, meaning people will be encouraged
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  Speaker 4: to go online as much as possible for goods and services,
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  Speaker 4: but we'll still offer support for those who prefer to
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  Speaker 4: use traditional means. You know, who knows for how long?
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  Speaker 4: And so yeah, I sort of, I mean great, it'll
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  Speaker 4: be great while it's in the early phase. But what
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  Speaker 4: happens when the electronic concentration camps here in Mexico. They're
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  Speaker 4: going to shut off my phone in two months if
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  Speaker 4: I don't register it. We can't pay for gash they
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  Speaker 4: just announced by the end of the year, we can't
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  Speaker 4: pay for gasoline cash. Since I was sixteen years old,
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  Speaker 4: I've never paid for card I guess with a card
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  Speaker 4: or digital. It was always cash. And this is for
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  Speaker 4: the first time in my life, I won't be able
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  Speaker 4: to buy cash because they're going to use it to
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  Speaker 4: limit how much you'll be able to purchase eventually to
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  Speaker 4: know where you are, and then the rationing. We're already
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  Speaker 4: seeing that with the COVID two point zero, which is
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  Speaker 4: the RAND worse.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, Yeah, the risk of critiquing opposition is that it
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  Speaker 2: can come across as a defense of.
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  Speaker 3: The what's of the status quote?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's the other trap where people will say,
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  Speaker 4: I'm you know, NATO or some of my guests, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're Western agents, and I'm like, I have right above
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  Speaker 4: me and NATO terrorism, NATO took me off of Patreon,
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  Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security off of PayPal. So it again again,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going back to the same argument, there's nowhere to
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  Speaker 4: run that these financial powers are transnational, they control all.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I've had leftist marxist on William A. I.
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  Speaker 4: Robinson, who I'm a very huge fan of his analysis.
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  Speaker 4: He's a you know, he's a Kami who says essentially
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  Speaker 4: the same thing that I'm saying, that the bricks are
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  Speaker 4: owned by the end. Then, you know, in this book
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  Speaker 4: they talk about how Western capitalism that they own basically
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  Speaker 4: most of the material. Even in my book I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: how a lot of the technology was transferred to the
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  Speaker 4: Soviety from the West to the Soviet Union.
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Sutton has talked about that to China.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a documentary that I inserted that was
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  Speaker 4: a main mainline documentary which was fascinating where the Chinese
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  Speaker 4: themselves basically say in the sixties or seventies, it was
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  Speaker 4: just agricultural and they they they went out to Japan
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  Speaker 4: and they got all of the technology transfer from from
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  Speaker 4: Japan and the US to integrate into this sort of
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  Speaker 4: Western technological sphere. And so yeah, it's it's it's difficult,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's kind of a great area, as you say,
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  Speaker 4: but we should be talking openly about this. It's like
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't want the West. I don't want
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  Speaker 4: this way that we're going with.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the same East West convergence.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same trajectory, it's the same macro trajectory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And to feed into what you're saying, I mean, COVID
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  Speaker 2: is a good example. Just about every country in the
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  Speaker 2: world did the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And many of my guests I had on recently
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  Speaker 4: Uri Roushka, I mean, he's the perfect example of a
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  Speaker 4: true dissident, and him and many others say, you know
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  Speaker 4: he was in with the Dugens, he was friends with Daria,
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  Speaker 4: and I just in my response to Peter Lovell's attack
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  Speaker 4: he called our conversation. He said it was recorded in
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  Speaker 4: a mental institution. And I'm like, that's easy for you, Peter,
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  Speaker 4: and you're perch working for the state, Russian state in
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  Speaker 4: your nice apartment in Moscow. Look at Uri Uri was
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  Speaker 4: in with the Dugens, He's in with the Eastern Ran crowd.
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  Speaker 4: He and he was a Moldovan politician. And so once
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  Speaker 4: he's once COVID happened, he began to question, like all
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  Speaker 4: centers of power are applying the same thing. And once
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  Speaker 4: he started begging that question, the Russo sphere kind of
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  Speaker 4: left him because you can't criticize Moscow.
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  Speaker 1: And then what happened.
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  Speaker 4: His EU controlled Western EU controlled Moldovan government now sentenced
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  Speaker 4: him to four years to jail and he's had to
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  Speaker 4: flee the country. I think they might they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: even confiscate his home. So he's become persona non granda
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  Speaker 4: in both East and West. And I think that's an
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  Speaker 4: example of a true dis dissident who's got nothing left.
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  Speaker 4: He's lost everything, He's got nothing left to lose, and
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  Speaker 4: those are the people that I prefer to listen to.
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  Speaker 4: And so I'm forgetting your your COVID.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, covid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point that you're making, because I
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  Speaker 2: have a rule of thumb in which I put more
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  Speaker 2: faith into.
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  Speaker 3: Those who've got more to lose.
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  Speaker 2: There's a book called Skin in the Game by Yes
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  Speaker 2: and hees the weird irony. He has such good takes,
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  Speaker 2: and yet his COVID take was unbelievably dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, this is the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's perfect all, you know, I believe we'll share similar
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  Speaker 4: beliefs in some like literally nobody, and you know, we
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  Speaker 4: get the same comments on the different platforms. So why
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  Speaker 4: don't you talk about this guy? Or you know you
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  Speaker 4: don't believe this. I'm not listening to you anymore. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: come on, but you believe in viruses. I can't take
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  Speaker 4: you seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's sort of silliness. But I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: say skin in the Game. Yeah, and so yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know where to go from there.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, covid demonstrated that as Uri says and others,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Riley Wagerman, who I just got interviewed.
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  Speaker 1: He was in Russia.
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  Speaker 4: He you know, he'd work for press tiv RT Russia
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  Speaker 4: Insider Ages of go. He started a little village with
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  Speaker 4: his partner and the FSB kicked her out. I guess
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  Speaker 4: she's the father of a mother of his child and
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  Speaker 4: he had to leave as well. And I think it's
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  Speaker 4: because he was, you know, on looking at well, wait
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  Speaker 4: a minute, and Moscow is implementing the same policies as
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  Speaker 4: the technocratic, totalitarian West, so there's no difference.
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  Speaker 2: I was, as you know, in China for almost a
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  Speaker 2: month last year, and I don't like I don't like
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  Speaker 2: that very technocratic, overarching style in which they do things.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see evidence of social credits growing. That's any
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  Speaker 2: different to say what's in the UK or in America
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. But it's still the same trajectory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And my thing is, it's not about like some of
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  Speaker 4: the multiple Laristas who have interviewed, who are largely foreigners
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  Speaker 4: living in these countries.
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  Speaker 1: That's sort of their.
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  Speaker 4: Argument, and for me, it's like, it's not about China
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  Speaker 4: or Russia. Like I'm screaming at the top of my
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  Speaker 4: lungs here in Mexico as a Mexican against my own
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  Speaker 4: Mexican government, who's bringing in phone controls, banking controls, gasoline.
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  Speaker 4: Like I live in the fifteen minute city, so we're
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  Speaker 4: all in this together. You know, what China is implementing
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  Speaker 4: is the same thing that Mexico is implementing in any
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  Speaker 4: other country, which is coming from.
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  Speaker 1: On up high. And you know, my problem are these.
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  Speaker 4: Myself and a lot of people online have just lost
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  Speaker 4: their patients. And I call them sycophons and folks who
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  Speaker 4: have Stockholm syndrome, you know, particularly who are not who
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  Speaker 4: the people who protect like China and Russia, who are
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  Speaker 4: not even citizens of those countries, you know. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: not citizen of three, and I'm crapping on all three
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  Speaker 4: because they're totalitarian.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess my.
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  Speaker 4: My my thought there is that, Yeah, I mean, look
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  Speaker 4: what China is doing, and I think no. Here's my
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  Speaker 4: important point is, I think the best people you want
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  Speaker 4: to hear speaking about these things are the native people
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  Speaker 4: and the native dissonance. So like, if you go to
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  Speaker 4: China and you go about your normal life, everything seems fine,
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  Speaker 4: probably same here in Mexico, but go talk to the
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  Speaker 4: go find that that minority, that group of Chinese or
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  Speaker 4: Mexican critical thinkers and intellectuals, and they're going to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this is our government is corrupt.
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  Speaker 1: It's an oligarchy. And I made that point in my article.
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  Speaker 1: Any country you go to I was.
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  Speaker 4: I lived in Kazakhstan and you talk to Kazaks, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like nas the bioman Is clan run this country. They
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  Speaker 4: take all our money. We're like serfs. Same you talk
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  Speaker 4: to Mexican in Croatia, We're a mafia state. You go
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  Speaker 4: to Russia, you talk to real Russians, They'll tell you
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  Speaker 4: it's a mafia oligarchy, just like any other state.
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  Speaker 1: Why is Russia special? They're not like holy or not corrupt.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, they're run by a mafia oligarchy, just like
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  Speaker 4: any other state. So I mean, that's my biblical worldview
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  Speaker 4: that will run you know, the Satan runs the entire planet.
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  Speaker 4: But that's also my anti collective is anti statist worldview
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  Speaker 4: as well, that you know, power, absolute power crops absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: and so I think.
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  Speaker 1: The multiple artistas.
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  Speaker 4: I was just watching Scott Ritter was in in Moscow
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  Speaker 4: are talking to Andre Fusof, Who'm I'm a big Frian
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  Speaker 4: of Fusoff. But he was actually kind of proving some
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: of my points in the article.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: There's a thesis and an anti thesis, which is Western
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: globalism and Eastern multiplarity, and they're designed to produce a
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: predetermined synthesis, which would be the world government.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's been again. You go back to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Cecil Roads.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I mean I quoted Cecil Roads from eighteen seventy seven
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and his will academic source from the University of Oregon
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: or something which will produced, I don't know if will.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And you read that from.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Eighteen seventy seven, and he's basically saying it's like the
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: analog version of bricks. He's saying, Yes, the British Commonwealth
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: must come together. You know, I'm South Africa, Australia, Canada,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: and that will be the basis for world union from
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: which you will spring to take the rest of the planet.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And then Clarence Strait, who I mentioned my article nineteen
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: thirty nine union now Atlantic Union. And then I found
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: a recent example the French minister was calling to incorporate
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Canada into the EU. That's straight nineteen thirty nine Atlantic Union.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: You unify North America and Europe. That's the core of
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: your world union, which spreads out to the rest of
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the world. So it's like, that's my belief that that
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: is the end game, the end goal, that's where we're
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: we're going, and so I'm just attempting to reverse engineer
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: how we're going to get there, and for me, bricks
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: multiplarity is the next phase to get there, because you're
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: developing the infrastructure in the global South. And as you said,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: of course it's going to be beneficial. You know Simon Dixon,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: who I've interviewed, he's saying that in the near term
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: this is going to benefit the global health. They're going
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: to get all of this wonderful, wonderful infrastructure and.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Apps and trains and all of this.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, but eventually, you know, it's it's it's like the
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: frog in the boiling pot. Eventually you're going to have
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: digital ads and thought crime, right, ministry of truth and
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: when and then if you say anything the regime doesn't
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: like you're You're you're turned off.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: So the risk here, though a voya is that it
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: it appears to be remarkably black pulled. I mean, anybody
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: listening this is going to go okay, well, alright, let
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: me just slip my wrist.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say that, I'm I no longer make
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: any bones about it or view that as a negative.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: In fact, I have listeners saying thank you for telling
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: us the reality because it is black building. And then,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you know, for the longest time, that has been one
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: of my my methods of trying to get this across,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: is like as a way of motivating people to get
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: into action and start to really critically think because things.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: It's like a lot of people are lulled, they're they're comfortable,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, like, look, it's a really black, black
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: built situation, and I'm hoping that's going to startle people
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: into like, yeah, you're right, this is bad. We got
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: to we got to do something, you know, And that's
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: sort of my way. My approach has been like that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely not saying don't do anything. I mean, I've
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I've had guests on recently people criticize. Even some of
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: my colleagues who aren't Christians, who are more new agers
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: have criticized, and I'm thinking, no, no, no, what the
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Bible says, Realize how black pilled the situation is from
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: a secular worldview, and get out there, you.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Know, become a man in the arena, be a piece.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Uh we're you know, help your.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Neighbors be a productive force in society, make money to
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: share it with others, promote peace not war.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: And you know that that's what you know. We look
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: at the example William.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Will Wilberforce, the I believe englishman who sing almost single
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: handiedly worked through through the British Empire in politics to
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: end slavery. You know, it is a Christian motivated But
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: so that's just a perfect example. So yes, it is
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: a black pilled reality. And but again, if as a Christian,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I do believe that we're going to end in this,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: the tell me the Book of Revelation isn't black pill
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I always.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about this last time. Spiritually, it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: white pilling.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Spiritually, if you accept the Bible, you know, we go
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: towards this horrible Hunger Games scenario, but it doesn't last long.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: And you know, Gandalf comes down from the hill Jesus
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: and he stops it all and saves us.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So we have a happy ever after ending.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: But for the people who don't, again, it depends on
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: everyone's worldview and and and framing. If you don't believe
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: in eternity, eternity. I mean, even if you're a new ager,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I guess you could frame it as a correct way
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: because you're gonna die and just become some frequency into
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the ether.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So what does it matter anyways?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You know, if it is a blackpoold reality, want bothers,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: They're coming for you no matter what.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, my grandpa was a prisoner in the Nazi
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: camp in Bosnia for six months. You could have just
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: given up, and I never would have been the born.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: You know, he fought, He almost died from starvation, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: he clinged to life and the tide turned. And so
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: again this is the We don't know exactly how things
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: are going to play out or the timing. But I've
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: had a number of guests say, I hate to quote
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Alex Jones because in my opinion, he's he's flipped.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: To the other side.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: He's promoting technocracy and all of this stuff. And but
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: he used to say resistance is victory. And again it
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: goes back to my spiritual principle, fight evil, resist evil.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Patrick would, who I had on not long ago, was
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: saying the same thing. You know, he made the strong
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: point we should resist these things, regardless of the outcome.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: We should defend what is true and fight what is evil,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: what is wrong, fight injustice, fight tyranny. That principle so
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: kind of like you're framing of the question then, I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: doesn't really apply. Just do what is right because it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's what is right. And then why why not
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: if I know what's coming, why not by myself some
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: time having.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: A Yeah, trying trying gridlock, trying gridlock the system way possible.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I said, this is a battle and
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: it's not going to play. It's a battle, and we're
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: in it. Why not fight where you know, and put
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: as many spokes in their wheels as possible.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And that's been happening still. You know they are beyond schedule.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Well we saw that in COVID.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and now they're coming around, you know, this Iron
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: war is I was saying recently. Nine to eleven was
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: like the first phase where they established the security state,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: the Ministry of Truth type stuff. COVID nine to eleven,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: you know, twenty years later is the bio second foundation,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: biosecurity angle where they can now go into our bodies.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: And now with the Siran war, is going to be
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the bio you.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Know, biodigital security state where they're going to cement the
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: digital applications which have since you know, the past five years,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: they've advanced far on. And then Joshua Styleman just for
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: a fantastic piece on Subsack yesterday talking about how did
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: you ID? You know, he was saying that they had
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: a lot of these text technologies previously, but the cost
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: to implement them, it was it was too high because
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: you'd have to send out many police officers and check
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: so many pieces of information.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But what digital ID is.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: It brings it all together with one key, and it's automated,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and so the cost to implementaranny is virtually nothing. And
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I think that's where we're getting at.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Do you think that our parents and grandparents and their
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: parents and their grandparents were talking about the same kind
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: of thing. How can you possibly have kids, you know
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: in this environment?
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Well they had a bunch of kids. So you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: the human uh human, we're human. You must you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: you have that urge to mate, Okay, tell you you
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: can't regardless.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Great horror film you remember it, I can't remember the name,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: but where these aliens came and they were through sound
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: they would attack, and there was this family that was
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: living in this sort of post apocalypse situation. They were
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: still having kids in spite of this. So again I
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: think it all depends on your worldview, your own personal framing.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: And you remind me of my conversation I had with
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Robin Monotti, and I think it was twenty one where
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: he brought up Umberto echo and internal fascism or fascism
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: where and I was not terribly familiar with his work,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: but and for me, it also fits with the biblical perspective,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: even though I think Umberto was not very much Christian,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: but that every generation, this evil is here every generation
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: and we have to fight it back every generation. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: so I always use my forefathers, you know, my grandpa,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: my uncle, my parents, a my uncle thought fought off
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Serbs who entered Croatia and the collapse of communism in Yugoslavia,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: and now here we are my generation, we're battling with
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: this same eternal fascism.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It never goes away. I mean, I don't think there's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: going to be a great awakening and we're all going
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to save ourselves. Again.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Back to my framing of we need an external We're
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: all drowning collectively, you know, Pearl jammedy Better worldwide suicide.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: We're all drowning and we can't save ourselves. And that's why,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: you know, the superman Jesus is the one who's going
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: to comment.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: So what if that is also just a style. Well,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I mean that even proves my.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Point in the Bible says we were made to worship God.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: And then why do you see everywhere someone clinging? You know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: it's a form of idolatry, but it proves that we
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: were made to worship God. That's our purpose, our creator.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Why do people have this incessant need to worship someone
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: to worship the QAnon? You know, white hats fighting the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: deep state Trump to worship, or bricks fidging Pink He's
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: gonna save us, or you know a lot of figures
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: in old media who've turned out to be you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: frauds or working for the other side. You know, I
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: was Alex Jones. You know, I think for me, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: use one of his examples because I grew up listening
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to the guy.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: He was part of my inspiration.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: But now he's clearly flipped and he's like promoting North
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: American Union and promoting techne He's like Fox he News
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: two point zero, and I'm like, come on, man, it's
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: it's too obvious.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: You know, it's his faith, you know, I believe in
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: the Bible and Jesus and then you know whatever. So
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: there has to be a counterbalance to the blackpool. And
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: you mentioned it earlier, but you mentioned it within the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: framework of spirituality. I think I think that d White
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Poole can exist in reality also, yeah, I mean in
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: living your life. I mean I experienced these comments as well.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I'm a having a person. I get up every day happy,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: it's on the shining here. I get my coffee, my water,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: you know, go go go out, hang out with people,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: go to nature. So again it's not like, yes, the
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: situation is bad, but it's kind of like still you
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: go on living your life.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just humanity always has and just try
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to make a positive dent in the world, you know.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: But isn't that bad then if you wake up happy
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: and enjoy your coffee.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I I yeah, I think of that
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: often as well, where it's not yet things aren't as
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: bad as some people project yet, But I mean.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Just using examples here in Mexico, we've got the National Guard,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: who's supposed to protect us extorting and killing us. The
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Mexican police are going somewhere go to jail for kidnapping
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and killing people.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: So a lot of bad things are happening. Still you
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: can't ignore them and just be in Lalla Lalla land,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: you know. So it's it's it's a fine balance in principle.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I actually like multipolarity in principle.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I don't care about bricks, but I like multipolarity in
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the sense that I don't like there to be a
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: single global power. The United States has been there for
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a long time and everybody has to work with the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: petro dollar. I like competition.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Again, for me, it's just called conpepsi.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's a mask where yeah, sure in principle,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: but it's like communism is a great idea but can
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: never be implemented, and then a lot of these if
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: we go to multipolar you know, when I lived in Kazakhstan,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: it was shocking to hear that, like there's five hundred
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: American companies in Kazakhstan running the oil.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: The big business. That's just a perfect example.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: You know, I had a friend who used to work
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: in Russia and the oil business, and he said, this
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: talk of new Cold War is just a sham. Russian
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: and American companies are making money behind the scenes.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: What do you call it?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Just piles of money. And so that's that veneer. I
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: think of it as a global deep state. One of
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: my listeners could called it the beast state, the beast
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: deep state, where yes, we will see the veneer of
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: these regions, but behind the scenes, they're implementing the same
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: totalitarianism for.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Their own citizens.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: And if you connect a lot of the corporations, the
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: multinational corporations, which is what this book by Holly Sklark
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: talks about, these same transnational corporations are running the agra
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: businesses and energy businesses. They own it at the global
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: level and they just have like their branches in Russia, China,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Europe and US, and so effectively, we in reality move
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: towards further centralization. And I use the example here in
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Mexico when we had the last elections there were three parties.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Take that as an example multiplarity. They all had different
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: colors and a few different differences, but at the end
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: of the day, they support North American Union, they support
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: COVID lockdowns and forced injections, et cetera, et cetera.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And so you know, in theory it's great, but.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Well, look at I mean the people that run to
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: the show, like all of the concentration of wealth in Russia, China, Europe, Us,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I mean this Nicholas Hugar. He says, you know, Rockefeller
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Company is close linked to Gasprom and that the Rothschild
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I was a dust royal shell is owned by the Rothschilds,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: both of those dynasties ron Builderberg. But he makes a
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: point where at times they work together and at times
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: they fight with each other, because it's like two companies
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: seeing who can get greater market share.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Right, you know, the players, the actors at the top,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: they are just placeholders on day. These frameworks have been
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in place for a very long time.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's sort of like a system, you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like you know, and well, I don't know what your exact.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Question would be, No, No, Well, what I'm what I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: saying is that if if these frameworks have been in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: place for so long, they become very very cemented.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: It becomes increasingly difficult. Some of these institutions, like the UN.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: The UN is pretty much impossible to take down, right.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: But even other groups. You see many groups.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: If we go back centuries, certain elite institutions will, like
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: any living creature or whatever, it has its peak and
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: its decline. And that's why you know, I mentioned Burgrewan Institute,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Nicholas Burgrewan. He just wrote a piece his Noame my magazine,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: confirming my thesis saying that the global souse is going
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: to determine the new world order. And they say Alexander Stubb,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: who's a builder Burger. I think he's the former Finish
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: leader who's saying, yeah, it's going to be regions, a
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: say on African Union. And I've found mainstream Spanish papers
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: talking about how Burgruin wants to become to supplant build
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: a berg and Torolateral Commission because those institutions have gotten old.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: And he's set up his headquarters are California, Italy. You know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: you think Venetian nobility and China and so yeah, a
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: lot of And then I think of a doctor Murcola
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: who's done good work. He wrote an article during COVID
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: that said he's black you know, in one sense he
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: was black built, where he recognized that they have their
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: hands on most of the levers of power. When you
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: talk about energy, consolidation, media, food, like everything we need
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: for our lives, the tech space, politics, governance.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: That that's just a fact.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: You know, we can't be for me, it's opium or
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: copium to think otherwise. But as I said, it's a battle,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: and sometimes if we push back enough, we can take
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: down part of the wall of that institution. And that's
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: what I'm uh here for. You know, I'm not going
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: down with a fi but it's a fight you're going
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: to lose. I mean, yes and no, Like I said.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: In the end, I believe you know, Jesus wins.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: So but and I just gotta be You got to
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: be like a good soldier D Day Normandy, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: run up that hill no matter what happens. And yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: I think I'm just an example of my geopolitics and empire.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I have been doing this for fourteen years. I could
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: have just been a teacher and living a mundane life,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: but I just started this thing, which you know has
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: had I don't I can't measure the impact, but I've
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: had some impact over the years, and so that's kind
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: of like an example.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So if everything is black bold, then what's wrong with
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: sitting back and enjoying the ride.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I do that as well.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I joke, get your favorite drink and some popcorn and
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: enjoy the show. And you know, I recently Riley wag
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: him an interviewed Ian Davis and he spoke to this,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: and I think he really made good, good arguments that.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not here telling anyone what to do.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like you determine your own reaction to this,
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: and I'm in terms of reactions, I'm not going to
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: judge anyone.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: There are people I eventually might.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Put geopolitics an empire on a back burner and just
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: go live on an island somewhere. I don't see anything
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: wrong in that, you see what I'm saying. So either,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you know, me doing a podcast is okay, people on
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: me unplugging is okay. Someone getting involved in politics at
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: their local level is okay. Some people focus on growing food,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of the green, green.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Earthy stuff. Hey, if that's your thing, do that. So
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: This idea of framing, shaming and framing people I disagree with.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I think people can have different reactions and that's perfectly.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, I know, yeah, I mean I think on
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: a macro level, I think what you're saying is true.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: But I think on a micro level, her voye, I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: think we should do what Stephen Kobe says in his
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: book Seven Habits, Finally effective people. Just try and be
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: effective in your circle of influence.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm thinking of another fellow podcast
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Scott Armstrong of Bunk, who works with Richard Groves Grand
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Theft World. He just completely switched his away from conspiracy
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: podcasts to working on entrepreneur like business type stuff and
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I'm absolutely loving his new podcast, and I think, again
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: that's a viable He's trying to focus now on winning
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: and winning, making money, helping others do that. And yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: you can read about this stuff from time to time,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: but that's no longer his focus. And again I've I've
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: flirted with that, but again, to each their own. I
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: still find it enjoyable. People have sent me in recent
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: days messages like you have a sense of comfort actually
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: in knowing what is going on versus like imagine people
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: COVID hits. You know, we had the Narco blockades, here
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: in Mexico. You know, you're you're hit by an asteroid
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Iran war, and it's like you're you're in a state
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: of paralysis because you don't know what's going on. But
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I derive great amount of comfort and knowing exactly what
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: is going on. So I'm happy, I'm content, I'm not stressed,
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not freaked out because I know exactly what is happening.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And then you know, beyond that, you can make certain
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: preparations to a certain reasonable extent.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: But again, everyone will live their life in their own way.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: And I you know, I'm not here saying telling anyone
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: what to do. I'm just saying, look, this is what
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I think is the situation. You should know, and you
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: guys react however you should react.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So many people who follow us are just not interested
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: in solutions in winning. Do a podcast about growing your
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: food and nobody cares.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: That is true. I think I've seen you and others comment.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I've tried this. I've tried this many times. I've attempted
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: so many solutions orientated conversations and they tank.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I go back again to you know what Teddy Roosevelt said,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: do what you can with what you got where you're at.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: And again my own example, I was educator, teacher, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: then podcast is just a natural extension of that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And then there's people.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Who tell me why aren't you, I don't know, farming
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: or doing this or everyone can start podcasting. It's like, well,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: you know, if I had grown up with no different
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: trade or skill I don't know, carpenter or farmer, I
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: would have been doing that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: You know, this is just where the cards landed for me.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, I know a guy who grew
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: up as a carpenter and changed the world.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: There you go, Yeah, there you go. So yeah, I
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: don't know what to tell you. I mean solutions, but
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you know I'm I mean, I'm not looking for an answer.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I think I'm just sharing my experience. I just find
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: that I find disheartening because I try and walk the talk.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: So if I speak about being fit, I'm in the gym.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I have my own gym here at my house, and
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I was in the gym.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Today, And I try and eat as healthy as possible
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: so that I can think better.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I try and get enough sleep. I focus very.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Heavily on the family and going away with the family
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: into nature and the bush and all that kind of stuff.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I try and walk the talk.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just on that again, going back to do
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: what you can with what you got where you're at.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: And I've said before regarding some of the things that
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: we're up against, you don't need really, I mean, in
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: most cases, you don't need some webinar or seminar to
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: tell you.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: How to grow farm.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: It's again, it goes back to do what you can
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: with what you got where you're at, which our forefathers
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: have always done.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: It's just calmon sense.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I think that maybe that's the reason why solution stuff
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: isn't as popular because, for example, for me, I will
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: do whatever is within my financial means given wherever I
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: am physically located.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Quietly.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't announce everything I'm doing, but I
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: will quietly do the best I can to my.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Abilities, and then that's it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: And I think most people, I would hope listeners, that's
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: what they are doing.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I mean some of them.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: When you talk about solutions in the farms, I would
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: reckon a majority cannot just don't have the space to
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: build out some huge, you know, permaculture farm. Maybe they
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: do what they can and so yeah, I think I
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: think it's just a lot of common sense stuff.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's yeah, but I think it's also human nature.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody wants to stop and look at the
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: accident on the side of the road.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: That's true. That's true too. Yeah, earlier I was looking
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: at stuff. And I've thought about this for the longest time.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I honestly don't believe we as humans, spiritually, physically, mentally,
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: our brains were made to live in this digital, globalized world.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I often think in the new Heaven and New Earth,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: there won't be.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Digital you know.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: I don't think we were meant to live like that.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: We were meant to live analog like my grandparents did,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: just in their village, in the physical space. Sure, at
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: times you can travel around the country to different countries.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: But someone tweeted the other day like, our brain isn't
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: made for me to know what is happening all over
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: on the other side of the world, because most of
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: the time it doesn't really affect my local life here.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think a lot of people live
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: like that. You know, a lot of Mexicans are just
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: or I am. They don't watch the news as much
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: as maybe Americans and they're just focused on getting their
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: daily bread, work, family, food, neighbors.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's a strong point there.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I mean I've even said for the work that I'm doing,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: it's honestly just as of late, it's just gone too much.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: It's too much to process, to call it to aggregate.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And that was my other point.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just become information overload. And my other point
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: is the totalitarian technocratic system. I think they've experimented with
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: different approaches, you know, or well in nineteen eighty four
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Boot on your Face Forever, or.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: The Huxleyan version.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: And again that's what Joshua Stileman wrote in his piece yesterday,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: which is it's more was it him or someone else
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: more effective? This sort of brave New world approach where
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: you get everyone high on drugs whatever pharmacological you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: very stealth methods of pharmacological methods with whatever they put in.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: It's a combination right in our food spray above.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: And then the the hypnotism they do digitally, the digital cocaine,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: with the different frequencies of of of of the the
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: way the screen flickers, your your your cell phone.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Because all of these different things impact impact us and so.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I think they've gone with that that method so keeping
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: us docile by appealing to our human carnal physical.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Nature, so and feminizing men, as Jason Christoff has spoken about,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: particularly these brilliant new film Have you seen it?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: No. Yeah, he focuses on on masculinity, coffee, alcohol.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I tend to disagree with him on the coffee thing.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I think I think there's a lot of I do too.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I think I do too.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I think I mean I have to recognized I sat
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: down with him and interviewed to interviewed him Mexico. I
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: think it was last year, one or two years ago,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: I can't remember, but you know, it's it's a shtick. Also,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: you know, I gotta hand it to him. I mean,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know the the the final say on it,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: but you know, you have to recognize it is a
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: stick in alt media or whatever. You have a business
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: and you just throw something new that no one's ever
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: heard of out there, and you know it's kind of cool.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: But you know, I just think coffee, we've we've we've
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: drunk coffee for centuries, like it's been in Croatian culture,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: even before.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Any of this new world order stuff. You know, you
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: go to the.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Cafe in Croatia and you spend hours there talking with friends,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: drinking coffee. Like I don't find it as some mechanism
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: of control, except for the American version perhaps, like I
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: was shown, see the European thing with coffee. You drink
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: like espressos like this tiny. You go to America like
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: it's my, my goodness, they have like jars dis large
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: with coffee. I'm like that, that's okay, that's not human,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: that's inhuman. That at that point, Christophe was right. But yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: his other points are accurate. I think alcohol is no good.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned a few times being a Christian and
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: how your world view is shaped by that. Do you
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: think Jesus himself was aware of the attempt of the globalists.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I mean he did say, give that which is Caesar's
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to Caesar. That's a great question, and I've never heard
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: anyone put it that way. Of course, I mean, he
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: knows virtually everything, and so he was confronted with it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: You know, when.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Satan, when he was out in the desert for forty days,
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Satan offered him to your world order like that proves
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: that Satan said, I will give you because he's the
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: prince of the power of the air. The Bible says,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: for the time being, he owned him and his buddies,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: the fallen angels control the political systems, and he's like,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I'll give you the new world order just about down
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: to me. And then I go back to the other
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: point when he was having the conversation with Ponches Pilot,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: and he said, effectively, he said, I can my angels
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: can come and we can overthrow the Roman Empire, the
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: political Roman Empire. But my kingdom is not of this world.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: My mission is spiritual, not political, not economic. It's it's
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: it's spiritual. And so he was well aware it's just
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: the timing. You know, he's got a different timeline, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: when it's time, he's going to parachute in when all
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: of humanity has run his course. And I think one
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: of the points is he gave us. That's why he
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: gave us free will. I think the whole source of
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: this is he could have made us like robots that obey,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: but he's like, you want free will, and this is
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: what's going to happen, And it happened.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: We fell disobeyed.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: We're going throughout through this painful journey, and then he's
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: going to come back and say, you know, I gave
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: you the free will, that's what happened. I'm gonna make
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: you unable to sin again. Ah, and then that's always
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: going to serve as an example of what happened when
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: you disobey.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: So I know that that's kind of my weird way
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: of look.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be clear. Yeah, the Roman Empire
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: were globalists.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: And in my article I saw I saw doctor Martin
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: erdmuand is German theologian who I esteem very much.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I was using his sources.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: He's one of the people that I've heard who's elucidated
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: it so well that we've been under, you know, like
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: the First Empire, Babylonian Empire, we've been in the Bible.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: You know, he's bringing real world matching it with the
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Bible where we've been under this Babylonian Empire since from
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: then until now, and he traces it like I wish,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: and he uses historical sources. He shows how if you
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: look at the Roman Empire ethnically, a good were actually Babylonians.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: And then you know when Rome fell you had the Venetians.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, you've interviewed people about this, you know, Venetian
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: nobility and all that sort of stuff. These this Venetian
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: nobility came out with their banking practices. They called themselves
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: the New Romans. So you can go from Babylon to
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Rome to the Venetians, who are the new Romans who
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: then you know you had the Holy Roman Empire, and
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: then all these other empires sprouted that they moved their money.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: They moved to France, the Netherlands and Spain and ultimately
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: to Britain, which was the new global Rome. And obviously
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: you come to back to Pax Americana, which is like
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: the latest version of that same old Rome.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: And they recreated the EU.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: CIA started the State Department financed EU integration, which is
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: it's an empire. I tied to Wolfgang Streak in my
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: article Austrian academic. It's a fact the EU is an empire.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: So they've recreated the old empire of two thousand years ago.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. Earlier you mentioned the triangle.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: What did you say, Washington, London, Brussels.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, France's leader says Washington, London, and the Vatican.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Rome, shall we say.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean people say what I've had
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: guests on Eric Roberts, Eric Rice, sorry Eric Rice, who
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: talked all about the Vatican. They're they're definitely a very
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: keynote the Vatican. So you know, I can't the bandwidth,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: you know, just to remember everything. But effectively, what we
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: see visibally, yes, London, Washington, Brussels, which.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Is maybe Brussels is like the face of the Vatican.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: You can sort of say, so Vatican, and of course Jerusalem,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: which goes back to Rome because you know it'd been
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: part of Rome and so now that's where you have
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: the Zionism there. And I also don't want to say
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I find that a lot of this I call it
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: this political occult Zionism that we're seeing, I think it's
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: being aggravated in many ways to try and throw the
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: baby out with the bathwater. Bathwater being the political Zionism
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: and the baby being biblical Christianity.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: So they're they're they're.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Taking this twisted American, crazy Zionist evangelical version of of
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Christianity attaching it to this crazy Zionism so they can
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: attempt to discredit Christianity because look, look what they're supporting,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: you know, the eradication of entire villages and all that
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: crazy stuff. So yeah, but that's the axis Washington, London, Vatican, Jerusalem.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean come on, I mean Trump put out
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: a great video about what gods is going to look like.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except they won't be invited back. I suppose they won't.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: You know, you're gonna have to pony up a nice
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: down payment to buy one of those posh smart city apartments.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Look, I liked living in Africa. I think it's weird though,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: because you're in Mexico, So I think you kind of understand.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Mexico is a backwards globally speaking, but we are more backwards,
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: and I think there's a sense of there's still a
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: sense of hope and freedom in our broken infrastructure, in
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: our very decentralized, dismantled system that we have on this continent.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say that is again going back.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: That's a white pillar aspect because we don't know exactly
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: how things are going to Like, I'm just pointing out
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: the patterns, the patterns.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: The trends.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the large picture, how they implement that.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I've been thinking in my city where I live, Like
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: in Mexico City, you can only drive your car every
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: other day. I'm convinced they're going to attempt to do
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: that here. And as you said, there is some public transport,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: but how on earth are people who have to go
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: to work every day, how they're going to go to
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: work on Tuesday and Thursday where the travel time will
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: double or triple, like it's not feasible, and that can
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: envision and a revolt, you know, people just going mad
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: like this is crazy.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And again I just want to point out.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: We should separate, you know, living like you said, I'm
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: enjoying live here, eating tacholes, going with friends, having beers,
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: and you separate these into compartments. And so it's kind
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: of like, live your life, enjoy your life, Understand what's
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: going on. See if there's anything in your life that
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: you can do about it, great. If not, you know,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: make as much money, do as much good as you can.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: And again, not having making.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Money being here focused people don't get wrong there.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: So well, I mean that's a good kind of closing
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: comment because I see wealth as more than just money.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got a family and you wake
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: up happy.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: No, exactly, because for example, I compare, I could go
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: back to the US and make more money. In fact,
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: I'm often talking to people about this. There was someone
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: here the other day who used to live in Texas foreigner,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: and you know, I'm comparing the costs. I'd make more money,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: but the hasts are costs are greater. But you know,
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: making less money right now. But it's I have what
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I need and I determine my own time. I can
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: go out whenever I want. I don't have to be
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: on a schedule. And so yeah, that is much more.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: There's more wealth. And I get to see my kids
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: every day, hug them, spend time with them every day
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: instead of you know, imagine the other nine to five
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: situation where you would barely you.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Know, I'm vaccinated kids much we add, yes, And.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a crazy story.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: I read in the local papers that they were sending
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: the Mexican government was sending out health brigades to the
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: schools to hunt down students who either were not sufficient,
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: who were not vaccinated for them now it's the measles
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: and tuberculosis, or who didn't have the full immunization card
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: up to up to speed. And they were hunting down
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: stud kids. And they did say informed consent, So but
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: you never know, with these people like Lawrence what's his name,
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Lawrence Fox in UK. His kid was recently jabbed at
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: school against his will, So you just never know. These
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: people are really giddy with their needles. But that's just
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: an example of how yeah, we're glad that they're homeschooled.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, her voye, How can I.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Not just follow your work but read this particular article
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: that this conversation was based on.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't be lazy.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: People tell me like where's the article or where's this
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: for that, Like, just go to the website and spend
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: five seconds browsing geopolitics and Empire dot com and from
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: there you'll find everything you need to.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: So substack is starting to look a little bit dodgy.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Everything is.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: You know, I've got some colleagues who are purists and
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like, they're like moved to ghost and I'm like,
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: this was a few months ago, and I'm like, it's
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: a cat and mouse game.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. And I was right, Look what happened.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: They were now bringing in operating system verification on all
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: on Android, Mac, Linux, Windows iOS, and it's kind of like,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: you know what, it's just like a short term solution
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: you know, Okay, I'm gonna move to go ghost.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I view in many ways as like substack two point zero.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: The guy came one of the founders was from WordPress,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: and they also have interesting terms and conditions. And you
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: use stripe on Ghosts and it's kind of like Mark
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Karnie is on Stripeboard. So again, it's just it's Canon
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Mouse and you know, I've been doing this for fourteen
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: years and I'm tired.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: I was on my website, a deep platform moved to substack,
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: and it's just like, I'm gonna stay on substack until
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: they deep platform me, and then I'm gonna move.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Again, you know. And so it's.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: All right, boy, Mark, thank you for joining me. The
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: changes