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Mark Davis Stirs Up a Controversy! · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 1: Okay, where in the world is Carmen San Diego? Your
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Speaker 1: where are your New York?
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Speaker 2: Little New York City action? This weekend, I think I
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Speaker 2: set a record four shows in three days, pretty big.
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Speaker 2: So I kind of went overboard. Gosh, saw some stuff
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Speaker 2: I wanted to see, and uh it was. It was
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Speaker 2: a good weekend. And back to Florida and then a
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Speaker 2: few more days and then then a week of vacation.
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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of looking forward to recharging the old batteries.
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Speaker 2: Did you take in what happened to Dutton Ranch? Did
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Speaker 2: you go? So?
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Speaker 1: I did, And I have been instructed by you that
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Speaker 1: I cannot particularly share because you've been busy and travel
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Speaker 1: and you have not been able to consume any of it.
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Speaker 1: Am I correct?
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Speaker 2: Right? I'm going to try to get it tonight when
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Speaker 2: I get back, but just just tell me thumbs up,
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Speaker 2: thumbs down.
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Speaker 1: Complete thumbs up. They really two episodes. We watched one.
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Speaker 1: We had a busy day. I had to watched the
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Speaker 1: end of the PGA Championship and a little bit of NBA,
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Speaker 1: and we had some stuff going on around the house,
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Speaker 1: so we were able to do the first episode. It
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Speaker 1: floods the zone with every reason why you love, Rip
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Speaker 1: and love they take anybody, anybody Harris. No train, no
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Speaker 1: train station, no train station. But the episode does not
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Speaker 1: roll out death. Freet's good good.
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Speaker 2: We gotta get we got to get things blown up.
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Speaker 2: We need.
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Speaker 1: It's some magnificent and the addition of Annette Benning and
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Speaker 1: Ed Harris. I will say, this is kind of interesting.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know the main premise they have relocated.
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Speaker 1: They've relocated to South Texas. Oh, I can't I can't
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Speaker 1: figure why, because they seem to hate it. There's one
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Speaker 1: part where she wakes up and I sweat and goes
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Speaker 1: it's hot and it's four o'clock in the morning, goes.
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Speaker 2: Well, but she's never happy, she's she can't be.
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Speaker 1: She was happy in Montana, and and Rip says, I
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Speaker 1: miss waking up to the mountains.
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Speaker 2: Well, why did why did you move?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they got a deal on the ranch.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but they get the filming costs are
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Speaker 2: cheaper in South Texas.
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Speaker 1: Probably it is so good. Let me know what your
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Speaker 1: thoughts are, Well, do a complete.
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Speaker 2: Catch all right, So let me go to the horse's mouth,
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Speaker 2: because I'm I'm watching all the media about you, which Incidentally,
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Speaker 2: let's just stipulate that when there's a lot of coverage
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Speaker 2: about drama involving political candidates either appearing or not appearing
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Speaker 2: on a talk show, when my buddy Mark Davis is
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Speaker 2: front and center, it just it speaks to your credibility
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Speaker 2: and your heft and your reputation as a real important
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Speaker 2: place that politicians have to appear. Now, I haven't even
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Speaker 2: talked to you about this, and I hope I'm not
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Speaker 2: putting you on the spot because I.
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Speaker 1: Can tell them I'll peel the curtain back, no problem, pull.
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Speaker 2: The curtain back, because here's what I saw over the
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Speaker 2: weekend between matinees and evening performances. As I'm running around
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Speaker 2: like a like a goofy person seeing all the shows,
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Speaker 2: and it was a great weather here by the way
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Speaker 2: in New York, and nobody lit me on fire. I
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Speaker 2: even took the noo stabbings, nothing bad happening. I saw that.
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Speaker 2: Let's see, you had you had Ken Paxton's scheduled.
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Speaker 1: Right, slated to go at eight oh five this morning.
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Speaker 2: Correct, Then he veiled because you were going to have
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Speaker 2: somebody who are you going to have on after him?
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Speaker 1: One hour later, one of his main attackers, State reped
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Speaker 1: Jeff Leach.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Leech.
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Speaker 1: So middle of yesterday afternoon, Paxton's folks call and say,
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Speaker 1: crazy week, We've had stuff come up. We need to reschedule,
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Speaker 1: which is never my favorite thing, because we had kind
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Speaker 1: of promoted this a little bit right, and I actually
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Speaker 1: have no qualm in this cynical time if somebody says, well,
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Speaker 1: there was some reason he didn't want to do it,
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Speaker 1: and maybe it was because he didn't think it was
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Speaker 1: going to go so well. Number one, it's me whether
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Speaker 1: it's Paxton or no.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. It wasn't that it wasn't going to go
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Speaker 2: well with you. It was all online. The narrative was
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Speaker 2: that it's because he didn't like the fact that Jeff
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Speaker 2: Leach was going to come on. He was after.
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Speaker 1: Hiring in fear of the Jeff Leach appearance after him,
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Speaker 1: something for which there is zero evidence. So there was Jeff,
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Speaker 1: there was and this is friend, what do you mean.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean there's zero evidence of that? Because
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Speaker 2: they didn't tell you said no.
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Speaker 1: I said, hey, what's the evidence of this, what's the
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Speaker 1: evidence of this? Both Jeff Leach and Matt McCovey. I
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Speaker 1: have another good friend of mine who's Cornyn's chief communications guy, saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: Ken heard about this and pitched a fit and went
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Speaker 1: on the run something again for which there is zero evidence,
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Speaker 1: And there everybody's entitled to their speculation. I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: that wasn't it, except his people say that wasn't it.
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Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the way.
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Speaker 1: In decades and decades of knowing Ken, I've not viewed
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Speaker 1: him as one to duck something. So this was opportunism. Here'sciousness. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the resolution is they need to both come on your
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Speaker 1: show as a p Jeff's on Jets on Wednesday eight
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Speaker 1: thirty five. Now, boys, and Jeff, what happened today? Because
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Speaker 1: he was so wired to go on after Ken Ken disappeared,
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Speaker 1: he said, well, how about you? You know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: which which.
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Speaker 2: Can firms the theory that Paxton didn't want him to
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Speaker 2: come on after him. I mean such thing. But what
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Speaker 2: does so? Why doesn't Jeff just come on today as scheduled? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Well, well, first of all, we went back and forth,
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Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. It was going to
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Speaker 1: be nine oh five. After we went around the tree
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Speaker 1: about three times. We have another guest to their an
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma congresswoman who's really good on China stuff. So I said,
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Speaker 1: all right, listen, how about tomorrow. He's on a plane tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: So Jeff is Wednesday, eight thirty five, and Ken is
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Speaker 1: any time he wants, and that should be as soon
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Speaker 1: as possible so that it can stop badgering him about
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Speaker 1: avoiding the subject, especially when the subject seems to be
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Speaker 1: something that you can fairly adeptly explain. It's a horrible
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Speaker 1: case involving an attorney who abused a young boy, a
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Speaker 1: friend of his son's, and they had a seven to
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Speaker 1: five deadlock jury and it just looked like they weren't
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Speaker 1: going to be able to get anything. Was this better
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Speaker 1: than nothing? Yes? Was it what the guy deserved?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: And into that gap with some some court inside opportunism,
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Speaker 1: they're looking to portray Ken as soft on this particular case,
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Speaker 1: to which I would say, even if this is a
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Speaker 1: blotch on the Paxton record, it's it's up against what
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Speaker 1: decades of everything right on trans stuff, islamicization stuff, fraud stuff.
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Speaker 1: So just good luck. I mean, a Cornyon may win
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Speaker 1: this thing. He may win this thing. It's it's real
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Speaker 1: hard to be.
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Speaker 2: Let's but let's talk about let's talk to the political bill.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about why you know, Ken
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Speaker 2: Paxton should be riding this wave and take an opportunity
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Speaker 2: to capitalize on what happened over the weekend. And again
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Speaker 2: another test. Oh, let's see if Trump's endorsement power is
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Speaker 2: still holding all. Let's see if Trump still has the juice.
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Speaker 2: And Trump said, Hey, voters of Louisiana, get rid of
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Speaker 2: Bill Cassidy. And they got rid of Bill Cassidy. He
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Speaker 2: didn't even make it to the runoff.
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Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of voters said no to Bill Cassidy.
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Speaker 1: He got twenty five. Julia Letlow got forty something and
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Speaker 1: the state Treasury got twenty something. She's going to win
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Speaker 1: the runoff and she will be the next Senator.
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Speaker 2: And the narrative is that that John Cornyn could be next,
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Speaker 2: that that voters of Texas. I mean, you always wonder
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Speaker 2: is it our own echo chamber, because I can't get
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Speaker 2: a positive comment about John Cornan if my life depended
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Speaker 2: on it. Nobody seems to like him in Texas. But
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Speaker 2: we've heard that before. They say that about Lindsey Graham,
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Speaker 2: and Lindsay Graham's about a ten to one favorite to win.
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Speaker 1: Has said it for every coin in election cycle, and
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Speaker 1: all he does is beat his primary opponents by like
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Speaker 1: forty This is different because it's ken and it'll be
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Speaker 1: the hardest battle he's ever fought.
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Speaker 2: And I will and I will say this, I'll get
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Speaker 2: myself in trouble with some of the red meat maga folks.
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Speaker 2: But other than the first Trump term, where I don't
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Speaker 2: think John Cornyn was sufficiently appreciative or loyal to the
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Speaker 2: Trump agenda, he sure has been Trump two point zero
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Speaker 2: and he's he has supported trump a law completely across
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Speaker 2: the board. I think people are cynical of him, but
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Speaker 2: a lot of it is just people don't like establishment types.
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Speaker 2: And I get that I'm kind of anti establishment too,
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Speaker 2: but that's not enough. It's kind of like Susan Collins
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Speaker 2: in Maine. You can't kick her out even though she's
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Speaker 2: hardly a conservative. I mean, but she's a She's a
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Speaker 2: Maine Republican, and you need a main Republican in there
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Speaker 2: who has been at Let me let me read to
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Speaker 2: you what to really fire everybody up. Here's Hugh Hewitt's
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Speaker 2: take on John Cornyn. Senator John corn should easily win
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Speaker 2: the May twenty sixth runoff against scandal plagued Ken Paxton,
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Speaker 2: not just because cornyn seniority is so high and he
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Speaker 2: delivers for Texas, but also because he should. He should
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Speaker 2: win Trump voters, as Cornyn has stuck with Trump through
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Speaker 2: thick and thin and is a layup in November. With Paxton,
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Speaker 2: Texas would go into toss up or even Lean's Tallerico column.
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Speaker 2: Paxton has the noisy online slice of the electorate, but
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Speaker 2: Texas Republicans are a smart crowd. They know the score
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Speaker 2: and will turn out for Cornyn, just as they did
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Speaker 2: in the first round. That winnowed the field to two.
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Speaker 2: What say you, Mark Davis.
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Speaker 1: I love you. A couple of problems with that noisy
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Speaker 1: online contingent, as if it's marginalized or a small slice
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Speaker 1: of the then why does Ken lead in virtually every
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Speaker 1: single poll delivering for Texas At the moment, it seems
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Speaker 1: the Paxton argument is, Hey, cornn may have been a
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Speaker 1: good soldier for the last ten minutes, but with me,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about what happens after Trump
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Speaker 1: is gone because it's a six year term. So what
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Speaker 1: corn is banking on is people believing that the more
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Speaker 1: Trump loyal behavior that we've seen lately will continue well.
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Speaker 2: And the other a lot of people believe him, and
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Speaker 2: the other and the and the other assertion is Cornan
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Speaker 2: is a slam dunk against tallar Rico and Paxton is not.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd buy that. That is a
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Speaker 2: huge Do you agree with that?
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Speaker 1: No, not for a minute. Either one of these guys
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Speaker 1: will be Tallarico, probably handily if we're not stupid enough
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Speaker 1: to hand it to him by not getting over ourselves
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Speaker 1: with the losing side licking its wounds for five months.
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Speaker 1: Both sides have a positive and a negative. Cornin's positive
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Speaker 1: is a long legacy of just being there and doing
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Speaker 1: all kinds of good things. His negative is people are
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Speaker 1: getting a little weird, he's getting little long in the tooth,
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Speaker 1: and they wonder about his Trump loyalty.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I keep Paston's positive.
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Speaker 1: Paxston's positives are just red meat MAGA Trump friendly decade
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Speaker 1: of good solid MAGA style grassroots conservatism. Ken's negatives aren't well,
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Speaker 1: some of the personal stuff and the legal stuff, and
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Speaker 1: now everybody has a balance there. I think they would
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Speaker 1: both meet.
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Speaker 2: Talery and I give you credit because you've said all
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Speaker 2: along Trump will not endorse. And I really thought you
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Speaker 2: were kooky on that. I thought, surely. I mean, he
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Speaker 2: kind of hinted about it, but he didn't really come
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Speaker 2: out and say he would. You must have read the
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Speaker 2: tea leaves better than me, because I don't see Trump
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Speaker 2: endorsing in the final week, do you.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all. There's no upside for him. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: because this is going to be a close selection. They're
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Speaker 1: going to be a couple of million people who vote
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Speaker 1: for Corner and a couple of million people who vote
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Speaker 1: for Paxton. Some extra will go to whatever the winning
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Speaker 1: side is. And if Trump endorses either one of them,
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Speaker 1: all he does is anger millions of his voters.
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Speaker 2: That's not smart. No, it's not a good And that
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Speaker 2: brings us to Thomas Massey because now President Trump has
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Speaker 2: set his sights on Kentucky's Republican tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it is Kentucky tomorrow again?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah it is. And it's down to the wire
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Speaker 2: there too, because now polls are showing his challenger slightly
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Speaker 2: edging him, or at least tied with him. And again,
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Speaker 2: he's a guy. Look, he has gone Marjorie Taylor Green
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Speaker 2: hasn't he. I mean, he's gone, he's completely although he
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Speaker 2: pretends he hasn't been. He pretends he's a Trump supporter,
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Speaker 2: but he's not. I mean he votes against everything, every
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Speaker 2: single item of Trump's agenda, He's a no vote on.
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Speaker 2: So you know, I think he's a Marjorie Taylor Green
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Speaker 2: who has by the way, she's just gone completely against
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Speaker 2: President Trump, which kind of hurts my heart. She just
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Speaker 2: she isn't missing an opportunity to bag on him on everything.
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Speaker 2: And so look, this is going to get real dicey
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Speaker 2: here in the next few weeks to see how this all.
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Speaker 2: I just know that Bill Cassidy, who stood up there
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Speaker 2: and gave his concession speech, we don't whine, we don't
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Speaker 2: say elections are stolen. Oh god, go.
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Speaker 1: That's a big middle finger to every single Republican in
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Speaker 1: Louisiana who knows that something was fishy. In twenty twenty tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: in Kentucky, the alternative to Thomas Massey is a gentleman
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Speaker 1: named ed gall Ryan.
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Speaker 2: Navy seal, and I and I.
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Speaker 1: Hope he wins because I'm tired of the troublemakers. I'm
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Speaker 1: tired of the self absorbed performative troublemakers.
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Speaker 2: I'm tired. It does not serve you well to go
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Speaker 2: up against the Trump agenda. Sorry, and you and Bill Cassidy.
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Speaker 2: That was the takeaway and all the Sunday morning shows
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Speaker 2: yesterday it was kind of like, well, it doesn't It
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Speaker 2: doesn't pay to go against President Trump. You think you know,
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Speaker 2: and it just shows how strong his endorsement continues to be.
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Speaker 1: Is as true as that is. Larry Connor had an
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Speaker 1: interesting take on that as he began today, Because it's true.
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Speaker 1: I mean the Trump and who Trump likes has a
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Speaker 1: lot of weight. But this people are over analyzing that
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Speaker 1: into Trump has this magical spell that he believes over people. No,
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Speaker 1: this was voters who ended the career of Bill Cassidy.
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Speaker 1: It is voters who will say no to Thomas Massey
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Speaker 1: or not. It is voters who will determine what happens
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Speaker 1: in corn And versus Paccine.
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Speaker 2: Look the American it's us, The America First MAGA coalition
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Speaker 2: is as strong as it has ever been. Don't let
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Speaker 2: the mainstream media try to demoralize you. Don't make them
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Speaker 2: it isn't true. And the elections are the elections are
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Speaker 2: proving it. So we're gonna We're gonna kind of see
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Speaker 2: how it all unfolds. Quick note about my beloved South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Alan Wilson, the Attorney General, on the
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Speaker 2: show today to talk about this crazy reversal of the
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Speaker 2: conviction of Alex Murdoch. You know, this disgraced lawyer from
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Speaker 2: the Low Country who was convicted of murdering his wife
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Speaker 2: and son. And over the weekend, just a horrific, horrific
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Speaker 2: auto accident a Greenville And you know, I love Greenville.
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Speaker 2: It's where I cut my teeth. A Greenville Police Department sergeant.
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Speaker 2: She was coming home from vacation with her family. The
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Speaker 2: car another car crossed the center line. Boom. She's dead.
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Speaker 2: Her partner is on life support. She lost her parents.
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Speaker 2: The two other people in the other car were killed too.
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Speaker 2: I often think about this. Do you ever go through that,
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Speaker 2: go through that your Does that go through your mind
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Speaker 2: when you drive on a two lane road and you thinks, Man,
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Speaker 2: if they're not paying attention and there's nothing you can do,
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Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it. If it's your time,
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Speaker 2: it's your time. If they are falling asleep or they're
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Speaker 2: not paying attention, you're not going to get out of
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Speaker 2: their way. If they all, I'll tell you what.
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