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The left can't reproduce (maybe stop hating men?) · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: All right, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, where you
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  Speaker 1: may be be and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brian with Allison, and this is maintaining
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  Speaker 1: frame the left can't reproduce maybe stop hating men where
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  Speaker 1: this is a little bit like short notice stream. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're here, so yeah, we're here. We're gonna be looking
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  Speaker 1: at us. Yeah, we're gonna be looking at a study
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  Speaker 1: from a sipost dot org that finds something that I
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  Speaker 1: think is a little bit obvious, but I'm glad that
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  Speaker 1: other people are talking about it. At least left leaning
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  Speaker 1: Americans are driving the US birth decline, new studies finds.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, what a shock? Are you shocked? Are you shocked?
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  Speaker 2: Are you as shocked as I am?
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  Speaker 1: Bryant, I don't know that it's possible to be as shocked.
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  Speaker 3: My shock has been imagined. And yeah it's here.
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  Speaker 2: We are, Yeah, here, we are totally floored. Could not
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  Speaker 2: have predicted this completely incomprehensible results that we are now
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  Speaker 2: looking at. It's just I don't know. Let's throw it
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  Speaker 2: to the audience. How shocked are you? How shocked are you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Like, how shocked are you that the political position that
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  Speaker 2: has literally defined masculinity as it's opposing political positions. So
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  Speaker 2: if you go into the corpus on psychology of men
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  Speaker 2: and masculinities, which is a direct inheritor of feminism, which
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  Speaker 2: itself is probably the left basically, and you look at
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing, they have defined masculinity itself as a
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  Speaker 2: political position that they oppose. Are you shocked that the
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  Speaker 2: group of people who have arranged themselves against one half
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  Speaker 2: of the reproductive pair is not reproducing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeap.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, the left is a basisically the left is a
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  Speaker 2: is a mental contraceptive.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like that, this is this is how,
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  Speaker 2: this is how a society decides it no longer wants
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  Speaker 2: to replicate itself. It embraces this notion, right, And we're
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  Speaker 2: not talking about like what traditionally was considered the left,
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  Speaker 2: like maybe civil rights, you know, establishing that everybody should
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  Speaker 2: be held to a standard of meritocracy rather than being
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  Speaker 2: judged by the biogroup that they belong to, which somehow
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  Speaker 2: evolved into everybody being judged by the biogroup that they
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  Speaker 2: belong to. And you know, I think there's like a
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  Speaker 2: there's a little blip in between going from you should
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  Speaker 2: be judged by the content of your character to intersectional
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  Speaker 2: ziggura where everybody has their cast slot based on immutable
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  Speaker 2: characteristics that they have no control over. And yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's an interesting progression, but we're not talking
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  Speaker 2: about that. We're talking about the left that decided in
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  Speaker 2: the sevities that it hated men and never looked back.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so if you would like to send a
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  Speaker 2: message at any point throughout the show, I apologize for
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  Speaker 2: the shows starting.
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  Speaker 4: Very out of the blue. That was entirely my fault.
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  Speaker 2: I left Brian hanging on the title for three hours
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  Speaker 2: because I got absorbed into the data mines. I'm currently
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  Speaker 2: trying to trace the genealogy of the men of Masculinities field,
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  Speaker 2: so that you know, they call it the men of masculinities,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not men the psychology of men in masculinities,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not psychology, it's not men, and it's not
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  Speaker 2: about masculinity. It's basically just the negative space that feminist
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  Speaker 2: say men occupy, that they need them to occupy for
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  Speaker 2: their theories or their conjecture to be accurate about the world.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just basically the norms feminists say men have.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I've been sort of trying to follow the
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  Speaker 2: funding but also follow the pop culture like where it's
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  Speaker 2: going there. It's a very fascinating thing. But just I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like busy digging through the data minds, and I
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  Speaker 2: completely lost track of time, and that's why this is
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  Speaker 2: All right, So let's begin with this article. I have
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  Speaker 2: not read it because I was in the data minds right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's going to be new to everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So I had shock.
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  Speaker 4: At the headline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay. So this is from sipost dot org
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  Speaker 1: and they do I guess they put up articles on
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  Speaker 1: psychology and stuff like that. This is from their Social
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  Speaker 1: Psychology Political Psychology. I didn't know that was a thing
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  Speaker 1: section and it is entitled left leaning Americans are driving
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  Speaker 1: the US birth decline, new study fines. A recent study
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  Speaker 1: published in Scientific Reports suggests that political beliefs are increasingly
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  Speaker 1: linked to the number of children Americans choose to have.
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  Speaker 1: The findings indicate that while conservative individuals tend to maintain
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  Speaker 1: birth rates near historical averages, so basically, the normal left
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  Speaker 1: leaning individuals are having significantly fewer children. This demographic trend
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  Speaker 1: provides evidence that differing birth rates are a main driver
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  Speaker 1: of recent fertility declines in the United States. Political attitudes
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  Speaker 1: are often thought of as simple opinions. However, research suggests
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  Speaker 1: they are relatively stable traits shaped by both social upbringing
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  Speaker 1: and genetics. Because parents tend to pass their political orientations
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  Speaker 1: down to their children, differences in family size among political
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  Speaker 1: groups can influence the ideological balance of a population over time.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell is this, gobbledegoog?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want to?
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  Speaker 2: Like? Honestly? Yeah? First of all, Okay, so they're saying
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  Speaker 2: that these political things travel with genes and thus can
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  Speaker 2: influence the population of a culture over time. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that's what's happening, right, Because the thing is that
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  Speaker 2: if it was stable, then this like, we wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: seeing the proliferation. We wouldn't be seeing if this was
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  Speaker 2: like a this is a just netic thing the same way,
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  Speaker 2: the same basically it would be. It would be stable, right,
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  Speaker 2: we would have as many left is as many right,
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  Speaker 2: and in order for us to have more on the left,
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  Speaker 2: the left would have had to have significantly outbred the
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  Speaker 2: right at some point in the past, which then completely
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  Speaker 2: just breaks their entire premise. Like I think they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to apply genetics to this and it doesn't work because
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that there's.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of socialization factors that are going on to
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  Speaker 2: into this situation. And the other thing is is that
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  Speaker 2: I think they're thinking about like a more traditional notion
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  Speaker 2: of the left, which I would put it as being
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  Speaker 2: more trade open, more willing to doubt your what whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is, like your culture or your people, And because
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  Speaker 2: that's an important thing, you have to be able to
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  Speaker 2: doubt yourself and that's uh, and doubt that what you
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  Speaker 2: are doing isn't necessarily right because you.
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  Speaker 4: Know what what was? What was?
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  Speaker 2: What was the Lucifer's main then pride lu like the Lucifer?
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  Speaker 3: What what about him?
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  Speaker 2: The inability to doubt yourself? Peterson talks about it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you don't question your positions, which is interesting because if
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  Speaker 2: that's more of the left or the traditional left, the
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  Speaker 2: ability to doubt yourself and question your positions, then what
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing is.
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  Speaker 4: Not the left.
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  Speaker 2: Because they sure as hell don't doubt themselves or their positions.
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  Speaker 2: They never really seem to say, hey, is this something
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  Speaker 2: that is good to believe? Like are we really the
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  Speaker 2: good people? They just seemed it was certain it over
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  Speaker 2: and over again with increasing aggression. So I mean, from
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  Speaker 2: that perspective, what we're dealing with isn't even the Left,
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  Speaker 2: and I would argue that it isn't because what it
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  Speaker 2: is decided to do instead is to simply arrange itself
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  Speaker 2: against masculinity itself, like the the traits that are associated
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  Speaker 2: with being a man, So arrange itself against the way
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  Speaker 2: men look at the world, operate in the world, and
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  Speaker 2: think about the world. And not necessarily like they specifically
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  Speaker 2: say we're against these things. Specifically, they are saying that
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  Speaker 2: men are bad things and that men need to take
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  Speaker 2: a second, like they need to, you know, sit down
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  Speaker 2: and shut up, which means that when you force, when
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  Speaker 2: you take men and you say sit down and shut up,
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  Speaker 2: you no longer get to have or you no longer
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  Speaker 2: are availed of their particular toolkit in the world. So
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  Speaker 2: to sum this up, when they say the Left is
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  Speaker 2: not breeding, I think it's because the Left has become
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  Speaker 2: anti half the human race, and you sort of have
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  Speaker 2: to have some kind of ability to connect with half
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  Speaker 2: the human race in order to have children. And uh okay,
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  Speaker 2: I went I went pretty far there. Yeah, maybe I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting a little bit no, no crazy, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think we're following. No basically, I mean you said you
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  Speaker 1: basically put it. I mean the something happened in the
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  Speaker 1: left that that moved them away from I guess like
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  Speaker 1: I would just say they became way more radicalized because
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  Speaker 1: towards being anti male. I seeing men as the source
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  Speaker 1: of all suffering in the world, and it could just
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  Speaker 1: be you know, obviously they're working with bad information. So
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, that they become they we are an anti
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  Speaker 1: male entity at this point, like they And.
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  Speaker 3: This goes back.
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  Speaker 1: You remember when we reacted to Shoe on Heads video
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  Speaker 1: about the male loneliness, and she was getting a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of like clips of you know, leftist content creators basically
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  Speaker 1: laughing at the male loneliness epidemic, at the you know,
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  Speaker 1: falling birth rates, at the marriage rates, all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And it was men and women like scoffing and turning
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  Speaker 1: their nose up and saying things like, well, well though
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  Speaker 1: they're men, the men have privilege. Men have stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: they shouldn't have the stuff. They don't deserve the stuff
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  Speaker 1: they have, right and all that. I mean, it's basically
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  Speaker 1: where they're at now now. I don't know, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I agree that it's a recent phenomenon, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that it wasn't like always going to be like
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  Speaker 1: head in this direction, since you could see the seeds
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  Speaker 1: of this stuff going back to the sixties and before,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with like sentiments yeah to like yeah, going
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  Speaker 1: way back, and it was I mean, maybe it didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it. Maybe this is now when we're like seeing
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  Speaker 1: how bad it is, But like, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: always trending in this direction.
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  Speaker 3: But we're getting now to the point where we.
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  Speaker 1: Have at least two or three generations of women that
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  Speaker 1: don't like that basically just either hate men, fear men,
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  Speaker 1: are disgusted by them, or some combination of those things.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean by that, I mean like the average man,
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  Speaker 1: not like a specific man that they might be interested in.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that that has, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Been like a slow burn, I guess, to the to
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  Speaker 1: the point where we're at now, and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get worse too.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna change.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, And maybe this is wrong, but
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  Speaker 2: I see I see a difference between what the left
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  Speaker 2: is now and what it once was, and like, uh
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  Speaker 2: and I think I think it is this kind of
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  Speaker 2: colonization of anti masculinity in the left.
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  Speaker 1: Well what was it before that might have taken it?
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  Speaker 1: That that might have been similar like basically putting women
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  Speaker 1: for stories. Think we're championing women's causes, like as the
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  Speaker 1: pretext for where it is now, where it's just like
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  Speaker 1: openly anti male.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, let's let's look at the the the atheism
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  Speaker 2: as sort of an example. Uh So you start with
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  Speaker 2: the principle that you're against or not, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: question religious beliefs, right, and then you start to incorporate
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  Speaker 2: this notion that religious beliefs harm women, and then you
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  Speaker 2: end up being you end up with atheism plus, which
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  Speaker 2: is basically women controlling the space because you have adopted
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  Speaker 2: this notion that you are against patriarchy and therefore, somehow
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  Speaker 2: the atheist space is a bastion of patriarchy that needs
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  Speaker 2: to be controlled. Like it's sort of a weird inversion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: atheism plus, Yeah, yeah, no, that's what I said atheism plus.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like you start out with a criticism of
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  Speaker 2: a belief and that that kind of sense of firmness
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  Speaker 2: in that belief. So you start out with like a
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  Speaker 2: doubt and then you end up with women control everything
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  Speaker 2: because and that the processes, you get seduced into the
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  Speaker 2: idea that you're not just doubting, you're not just questioning
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  Speaker 2: whether or not this belief is accurate or or here's
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  Speaker 2: to standards of ethics.
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  Speaker 4: You are now.
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  Speaker 2: You're now seduced into this narrative that the belief is
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  Speaker 2: harming women, and then you get further seduced into arranging
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  Speaker 2: everything according to preventing harm the alleged harm against women
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  Speaker 2: that is supposedly in the thing that you're criticizing. But
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  Speaker 2: suddenly how becomes in the community that's criticizing the thing,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like it's just like it it it, And
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  Speaker 2: the contradiction is understandable because once you throw out the
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  Speaker 2: flag of oh, yeah, we're criticizing things, this thing because
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  Speaker 2: because of women and the situation for women. Once you
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  Speaker 2: throw that flag up, it's like you're you're you're sending
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  Speaker 2: out a signal we can be controlled by this narrative,
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  Speaker 2: and then they just come out, like the feminists come
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  Speaker 2: out of the woodwork and say, Okay, well, you atheist,
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  Speaker 2: you're criticizing religion because you think that religion oppresses women. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you better give us control over your communities or you're
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  Speaker 2: oppressing women.
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  Speaker 4: You see how that works.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what happened to the left to a degree,
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  Speaker 2: and it starts with that doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, what I'm trying to say is I think
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  Speaker 2: that there was something good about being able to question things,
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  Speaker 2: being able to doubt things and moral certainties, being able
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  Speaker 2: to update what we think is right. But it has
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  Speaker 2: this weakness of and I think it's just because this
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  Speaker 2: is a weakness that men have when they become certain
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  Speaker 2: about something, it's very seductive to say that their belief
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  Speaker 2: benefits women more because that's sort of like that's like
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  Speaker 2: the wind condition almost for men, you know. And then
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  Speaker 2: once you do that, once you do that, you are
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  Speaker 2: able to like the the you basically show throw up
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  Speaker 2: a big white flag of surrender to the women who
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  Speaker 2: are going to come in and control your community based
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  Speaker 2: on that belief system. Okay, I am put a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff out there and I know it's well.
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  Speaker 1: What's ironic about atheism plus is uh? And what happened
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  Speaker 1: to them was I think the atheist this like atheists.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a movement, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a group of people that were like
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  Speaker 1: minded that got together online and talked about atheism. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what there is to say, but but that's
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  Speaker 1: what it was. It was a community that grew out
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  Speaker 1: of that. And I think that one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: why there was an atheism plus was because they were
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  Speaker 1: questioning like the good of religion, like not necessarily whether
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  Speaker 1: or not it's true, but more like what because it
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  Speaker 1: was more of a lot of moral judgments on what's
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  Speaker 1: wrong with religion right specifically Christianity. Let's be real, they
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  Speaker 1: weren't really going they weren't all going after Islam. I
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  Speaker 1: think the ones that did they became famous because they did,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But like the ones that were like for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: they would see things like traditional Christianity or at least
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  Speaker 1: organized religion in general as a problem. And one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that it was a problem for was women.
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  Speaker 1: That was like one of the primary arguments you know,
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  Speaker 1: that atheists would make against religion was that it was
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  Speaker 1: harmful to women, because generally, if you want to, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, take a stand on something and declare harmful,
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  Speaker 1: saying it's harmful to women is probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: best ways you can do it, next to say it
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  Speaker 1: being harmful for children, you know. And but interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 1: I would say that most people, if not everyone, in
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  Speaker 1: the Atheism plus movement or whatever in that community were
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  Speaker 1: feminists because that was baked into it to some degree,
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  Speaker 1: because there had to be like a secular humanist alternative
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  Speaker 1: to religion that would like you know, essentially decide what
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  Speaker 1: is right and what is wrong, and one of those
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  Speaker 1: things had to be feminist doctrine because that's got a
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  Speaker 1: moral framework built into it as well, which is basically
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  Speaker 1: to put women first all the time. And yet the
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  Speaker 1: women inside of the AI he is in plus movement,
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  Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, you know, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of patriarchal and problematic.
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  Speaker 1: It was almost like that, you know, they they were
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  Speaker 1: doomed to fail or at least this was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a problem for them because there is no like universal
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  Speaker 1: standard of morality. They're like, everyone's vying for position, Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, all of the various like leftist subgroups, like
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  Speaker 1: whether you're a race identitarian or a feminist or LGBTQ activist,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, a Native Indigenous activist or a climate activist,
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  Speaker 1: they're all thinking that their particular subgenre or or denomination
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  Speaker 1: of leftism is the predominant one, and they're always like
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  Speaker 1: fighting with each other over dominance for that. But they're
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  Speaker 1: basically making idols of those things. And what is interesting
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: about it is, again it started from this, well, we're
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: going to go up against these things because these things
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: are bad. They hold people back, they're restrictive, they're oppressive,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: especially to women, especially to gays, and et cetera. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: then those same people were like, you know this, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: don't like this.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: This needs to change.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And I just think that's that's kind of where I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: think it was always gonna go because once you like internalize,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing wrong with questioning things, but I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: don't think that you have to be a leftist to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: do that. But once you internalize this critical consciousness of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: like you know, engaging in critique, like this Marxist critique
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of everything, then nothing even other Marxist ideas are gonna
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: be Nothing is gonna be safe from that. So inevitably
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they're gonna start critiquing those things too. And that's what
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: happened to atheism. Plus that's what happened to all most
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of these That's what happened to Occupy Wall Street. You know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it got it got inundated with all these fringe groups
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that were all trying to be the dominant conversation. You had,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: like you know, rained answers at these gatherings. It was like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: why is this here? You had like you know, vegans,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like they were pushing to and meat production. Like everyone's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: got their their idols and they're all trying to bring
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: them to the table.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So anyway, Yeah, and then the original and the original
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: reason for actually being there just got swamped by all
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: of this fractionalism, and you know, it becomes about advancing
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: aggrievance rather than a collective cause like not and I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: mean a collect I don't mean collectivism cause, but like
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: a collective situation like and the collective situation, of course,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: was all of the chicanery, the financial chicanery that came
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: out of the FED backstopping the those banks, the too
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: big to fail stuff. So socialism for the the uh,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: the government and the corporation, So socialism for the elites.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Capitalism are uh, capitalizing their gains, socializing their losses. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I think that was what will Occupy Wall Street was about.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: But then it fractionalized into everybody. And that's how these
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: movements get destroyed so and co opted. And that's exactly
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. You know, they start with a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: legitimate complaint, which for example, the civil rights would be
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the uh, how the laws were different based on what
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: biogroup you were part of, which you know, seems legitimate
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to me, and then it gets co opted into all
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: of these subgroups, these grievance politics, these subgroups fractionalized and destroyed.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: That's the interesting part, you know, it just ends up
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: destroying like it sort of almost destroyed the atheist community.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And the funny thing is is again the atheist community
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: rallied around this idea that atheism was good for women.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: You know, we're the ones who are better than religion
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: for women. And then the feminists came in and said, well,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: we better control your community because you say you're better
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: for women or something.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Put us in charge, like it put us in.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Charge and then they run it all into the ground,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: as they do, because it becomes a smoking crater of
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: people trying to throw each other out of it, out
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: of So you take a legitimate criticism of the status quo,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: right fed backstopping asymmetrical application of law based on bio category,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: which is what they're moving back to anyway, but regardless,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and and then you you'd fractually, you introduce first, then
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: this is you. This is the first, this is the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: this is the thin edge of the wedge. You introduce
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the idea that what it's all about is protecting women.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: And this is the thin edge of the wedge because
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but this is like catnip
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: for men. This is this is there, This is the thing,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: This is the thing. This is how you seduce men
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: into something. You tell them it protects women, and then
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: they all come out and they're like, Okay, yes, we
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: have to do the protect women thing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: We've been watching Noir and I've been saying that, like you'll, you'll,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they'll have the fem fatal. And the femme fatal is
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in a bind, right, So she uses her wiles to
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: get a man to help her out, and I'm like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: this is cat and it for men. It's like, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: saving this woman. Yea, this is this is something that
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: just that men gravitate towards. So this whole narrative of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: being able to protect women is the thin edge of
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the wedge, and then all of the grievance fractionalization comes
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: in after that. So the the the the the lesson
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: here is stop protecting women.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah for sure. Okay.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So Martin Feeder and Suzanne Huber wanted to understand how
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: this relationship has evolved. As evolutionary biologists, we are interested
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: in why left and right wing political orientations did evolve
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and whether they are subject to natural selection through differences
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in fertility, explained Feeder, an associate professor of evolutionary demography
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: at the University of Vienna. Earlier studies showed that political
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: orientation is heritable and that fertility patterns differ across the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: political spectrum. Well, you know, I feel like these guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: are not going to get good data from these assumptions,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Like they're assuming that political orientations are heritable. I'm not
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: sure that's true because a lot of times kids rebel
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: against their parents and take on, like you know, they
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: go through a phase at least where they take on
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the opposite belief system their parents did. So I'm not
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: sure that it's entirely true that it's heritable. The other
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: thing is is that, like I don't know, the evolutionary
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: science is a little bit unreliable, I guess, And it
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: looks like they're just assuming it must be true. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: then they're saying, well, then this is why this is
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a conundrum.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: But then you have to.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Also ask, like how many kids start off Let's say
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say right wing or conservative. I would
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: say most people are like apolitical, like they don't think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: about the stuff.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: They just have whatever, like their community has.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And then they go to school, and at school they
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: get taught, you know, a certain way of thinking. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I think that that has a bigger effect. So and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know that I buy the idea that
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: it's only left wing people who are are like you know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: who have a collapsing birth rate.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I think that it's happening everywhere. That's my belief.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's worse on the left because that's there,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: you know, they're they're just overtly anti male. But I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: think that there's problems everywhere because you have, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you have like basically, to some level, everyone has internalized
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the feminist narrative, which includes opinions on men and masculinity.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: It's just a matter of degrees, so it is going
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to have an effect.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: In my opinion. But anyway, yeah, yeah, So.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Earlier studies showed that political orientation is heritable and that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: fertility patterns differ across the political spectrum. Demographers or demographers
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: are sorry study how societies transition to lower birth rates
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: as they become wealthier. This shift involves cultural changes like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a greater focus on individual achievement and non traditional family structures.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: The authors aim to explore whether this general decline in
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: birth rates is happening evenly across the political spectrum. While globally,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: both political extremes often have higher fertility, the pattern in
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the US and Europe is different. So in the West, Basically,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Feeder said, individuals with more conservative political views tend to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: have more children than those on the political left. These
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: new findings built upon previous work conducted by the researches.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: In a twenty eighteen study published in Frontiers and Psychology,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the researchers analyzed global survey data. They found that in
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: many regions, individuals that both the extreme left and the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: extreme right had higher fertility than political moderates.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: However, their analysis of United States data in the same
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: paper hinted that a unique advantage for conservative conservatives began
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: emerging during the nineteen nineties. More recently, a twenty twenty
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: four study by the same authors in Biodemography and Social
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Biology indicated that European could conservatives tend to have more
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: children and grandchildren than their liberal counterparts, and a previous
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: study we oh, I'm sorry.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, this started to emerge in the nineteen nineties.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Huh mm hmm, Because that's interesting because that's when like
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of this that you started to see cultural
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: penetration from the psychology of men in masculinities field.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually curious. I would I I would, I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: would wonder. I'm wondering because I have a I have
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: a timeline.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go I'm.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Gonna pull that up and see if this corresponds to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: anything that I've been researching about this field. Because if
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it's if it's the case, like that's really interesting that
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: for the most part, the left didn't see a decline
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: in fertility until the nineties. Well, that corresponds to the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: beginning of the saturation of this kind of very anti mail,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: like a the adoption of anti mail, very anti male
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: attitudes in the left. But I would have to look
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit closer to so don't quote me on next,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I look a little closer on when these things are happening.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: But it But is that not interesting because it does
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: suggest that does actually lean credence to what I was
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: lend credence to what I was suggesting, which is that
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: there is a left that's about maybe doubting our beliefs
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: or are the or the correctness of the consensus, the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: current consensus. And there's a left that's about universalist ethics.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: So you know, like the Quakers would be more I
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: don't want to say they are liberally there were Christians,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: but they had that belief in this kind of universalist
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: ethics and activism and that kind of thing. So there
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and honestly, like the civil rights movement was driven by Christians,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you guys, You guys know that, right, mm hmm. They were.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It was driven by people who felt that you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: God had said we are all equal in the eyes
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of God, and uh so meritocracy and equality before the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: law was an actual spiritual necessity or a spiritual it
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: was important spiritually and it was important to their faith.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So like a lot of that, like a lot of
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: the anti slavery stuff was driven by Christians. So this
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: is this is not something that's inconsistent with uh. I
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: guess you might say more conservative beliefs, but uh or
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Christian beliefs anyway, So like this is and again it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: about questioning established norms, consensus, the things we've inherited from
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the past, and it's using a universalist ethics to do so,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: which itself is something that the New Left was called.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: The New Left is deconstructing right and reconstructing the kind
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of cast system based on biology basically anyway. So what's
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: interesting about all of this is that it tends to
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: support my hypothesis that the Left ended up being co
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: opted by something very anti masculine and anti mail and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: that's what's driving the fertility because there needs to be
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: an explanation of why the left was having children at
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the same rate as the right. And then that just
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: hit something in the nineties and fell off a cliff.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: See what I'm.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Saying, Brian, Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think it is
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's the fact that the the the fellow
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: travelers of that particular point of view began to adopt
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: very anti mail sentiments.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: But yeah, let's continue.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So in a previous study, we demonstrated that these fertility
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: differences are likely to contribute to a gradual demographic shift
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: toward more conservative societies in Europe, Feeder said in the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: present In the present study, we wanted to determine when
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: this divergence and fertility first emerged. To explore these trends,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the scientists analyzed data from the United States Generals Social
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Survey collected between nineteen seventy and twenty twenty two. The
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: sample included twenty two thousand, nine hundred and seventy five adults,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: consisting of ten thousand, six hundred and eighty one men
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and twelve thousand, two hundred and ninety four women. All
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: participants were over the age of forty, meaning they had
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: generally completed their childbearing years. The participants were grouped into
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: sixteen birth cohorts based on five year intervals. This started
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: with those born between nineteen oh three and nineteen oh
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: seven and ended with those born between nineteen seventy eight
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and nineteen eighty two. The researchers measured political orientation using
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: seven point scale ranging from very left to very right,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: grouping these responses into three broader categories representing left, center,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and right orientations. To evaluate how fertility impacts the spread
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of political traits over time, the researchers used a statistical
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: tool often applied an evolutionary biology to measure phenotypic selection.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: This method allows scientists to measure how strongly a specific
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: observable trait influences reproductive success. The data revealed a pronounced
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: change in how political beliefs relate to family size. For
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: individuals born in the early nineteen hundreds, political orientation had
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: almost no association with the number of children they had. However,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: beginning with a cohort born between nineteen forty three and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven, a massive divergence emerged. We expected these results,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but not such a dramatic event, Feeder told SIPOST. From
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the mid century cohorts onward, individuals with right wing views
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: maintained birth rates at or slightly above the replacement level.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: The replacement level, typically considered to be two point one
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: children per woman, is the rate needed for a population
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to replace itself from one generation to the next without immigration.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: In contrast, the birth rates of left wing individuals dropped sharply,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: falling well below the replacement level. In the more recent cohorts,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the authors noticed this drop aligns with historical changes in
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: family planning. We found the gap, but began with the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: introduction of modern contraception. Feet are said, so this started,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: actually the drop according to this cohorts born between nineteen
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: forty three and nineteen forty seven, so they would have
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: been like maybe having kids in the nineteen sixties.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: So this is this is what I'm maybe in the sixties,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: maybe even like the late fifties.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the replacement level, okay. In contrast, the birth
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: rates of left wing individuals drop sharply, falling well below
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the replacement level and more recent cohorts, the authors noticed
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: this drop aligns with historical changes in family planning. So yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: introduction of contraception, fertility declined markedly among individuals left of
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the political center, whereas those right of the center generally
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: maintained fertility close to or above replacement level, Feeder added,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: individuals with centrist political views fell somewhere in the middle.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Their fertility rates were made slightly below the replacement level,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: but were consistently higher than those of left wing leaning individuals.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: These findings provide new insight into the demographic drivers of
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: fertility decline and suggest that differences in fertility may contribute
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to long term changes in the political composition of the population.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Given that political orientation show substantial parent offspring similarity, Feeder said,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I don't again, I don't know if that's true, but okay,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the research suggests that quote much of the now, much
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: of the right word shift currently observed across many countries
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: is related to underlying demographic changes end quote. The authors
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: also looked at how race interacted with these demographic trends.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: When analyzing white and black Americans separately, they found that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the widening fertility gap between the left and the right
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: was primarily driven by white Americans. Among white participants, the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: reproductive advantage for conservatives group substantially in the more recent
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: birth cohorts.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Again, I'd like to ask.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: If we're going to be looking at white and black
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Americans and we're looking at like how these numbers were
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: affected by contraception, where they also affected by things like
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the welfare state no fault well, I mean no faultforce
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: didn't come out to the eighties, but like the welfare state,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and you know which would you would have contraded to
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: fatherlessness or you know, absent fathers or fathers prevented from
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: being with their kids, which was a big spike of
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that happening in the black population, which is why we're
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: in the you know, they're in the shape they're in today.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: For Black Americans, the researchers did not find a similar
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: political divergence. While overall fertility among Black Americans also declined
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: over time, birth rates remained relatively similar across the political spectrum.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: The authors suggest this might happen because ideological labels like
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: liberal or conservative are often understood differently across various racial.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: And cultural groups. Yeah, that's true too.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Beyond political views, the study found that other lifestyle factors
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: strongly predicted family size. Education was consistently linked to lower fertility,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: meaning that individuals with more years of schooling tended to
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: have fewer children. This negative association was particularly strong for women,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a pattern that aligns with broader demographic research. Again, yes,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: this is predictable. So the more educated a woman is,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the less interested in children she is going to be,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: or at least that's what the trend points to. They're
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: also like having them later because they're in school. Religious
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: attendance was positively associated with having more children. Interestingly, the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: data indicated that frequent religious attendants were provided a stronger
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: reproductive boost for men than it did for women. Even so,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: as the reproductive advantage of right wing politics increase in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: recent generations, the independent effect of a religious attendance on
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: family size weaken slightly. That's because it became a little
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: bit less of a factor, I suppose.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you go to church, you're gonna especially
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: if you're like, you know, let's say you have a
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: wife but you don't have any kids, or you're dating
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: someone and you're going to the same church, the people
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: at church are going to be like, when you're gonna
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: have kids?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: When you're gonna have kids. Now, I don't find that
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to be a problem.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's rude or anything like that, but
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I do think that it's probably one of the reasons
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: why people who are going to church are more likely
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to have kids.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Because when you're when you're in church, you're part of.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: A you're basically part of a community, and the community
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: generally is looking out for you like they're looking out.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: For each other.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: So you feel safer having kids because you feel like
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you have like people that are gonna have.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Your back, or at least that's the hope.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I think that that is a potential, you know, reason
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: for these changes. So it basically changes the culture, not
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: just like the church, it's the community that comes with it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: You feel safer, you feel like you're part of a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: tribe or cohesive group of people and they're all on
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the same page, you know, so.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: The authors suggest that differing views on family planning and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: lifestyle autonomy might play a role in these divergent birth rates.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: The main takeaway is that political change is not driven
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: by only by persuasion, elections, or short term social trends,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: but also by demographic processes. Feeder said, Yeah, I don't
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: think it has much to do with like elections at all. Actually,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I think that when they say, you know, like like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: leftists are having fewer kids, it's it's speaking more to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: their their like default worldview and their value system, their
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you know how I think that we all ironically, I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: think leftists in a way are more individualistic than conservative
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: people because conservative people are trying to be a part
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: of a something larger, like they you know, they have
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: their nation's identity, they have their family, they have their
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: community and so on, and and leftists want to be
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: like decoupled from that stuff.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: So in a way they're there.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: They have some more individual leanings, but then they become
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: collectivists because they expect everyone else to also share that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of like Kesh twenty two. I guess, well, it's.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's it's individual, it's it's collectivist,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and that it's categorical thinking.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Hm hmm.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And it's individualist in terms of actual responsibility to anybody
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: but yourself. Yeah, Like it's uh Like. The the thing
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: is that the the way that the at least the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: moral circle the ant like I don't even want to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: give them the credit of calling them at a political position,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the anti mail contingent is their attitude is that when
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: they do the moral circle analysis, so they what they're
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: doing is their construct You you call the you that
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: you cited that individual who called it homicidal virtues. I
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: would say it's weaponized virtue signaling. What they're doing is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: they are constructing a situation where they can get create
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the largest possible out group for aggression while having no
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: actual responsibility to the things that they actually say they
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: care about. And that that's what I actually wanted to
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: counter something you said that feminism is about putting women first.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: It's actually about putting feminism first, which is another moral
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: circle analysis. So you have to care about women as
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a group as defined by feminism. So women as a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: group as defined by feminism, whether or not women as
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: a group defined by feminism actually resembles any individual woman irrelevant, right,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: So you you have it's basically like the Martian space
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: rocks with sex. Right, they define it, and they can
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: define it in such a way that almost every woman,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: every biological woman, doesn't isn't actually in the category of women,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: which is sort of where we are now, because really
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: it's it's just trans women and not trans women as
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: a whole. It's just trans women that agree with with
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the progressive, ever tightening circle of people who deserve to
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: live and so anyway, so the point is that this
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: entire thing, this moral circle analysis. This anti male moral
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: circle analysis establishes a landscape that excludes how men think
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: about morality and also how conservatives think about morality.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: So what you have is you have two poles.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: One is universalist ethics. Right, So you treat everybody you
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: treat you treat them politely, you don't lie to them.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: This is this is a Christian thing. Like it's like
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the commandments you have carry within you a set of
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: ethical principles that you are supposed to.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Grant everyone equally.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So it's a lie whether or not you say it
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to your somebody outside of your tribe, and it's a
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: lie if you say it to someone within your tribe.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: There's no difference. So the the.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Valence stays with the action, not who it's directed at.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: That's universalist ethics, right. So that's that's one thing, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: that covers everybody, which is why when when the moral
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: circle people come to men who are actually you know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: men and say something like we want you to care
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: about category X, and the man is like, no, I
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: don't care about category X, but read in reality, category
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: X is entirely covered by the universalist ethics that he appolts.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying like it's like he's, he's.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care about trans as a category, but I
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: care about individual people who happen to be trans, which
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I may not, may have a strong opinion about, but
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: still regard with with these ethics, treat with treat ethically
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: based on my universalist principles. So for example, I use
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: an example of the difference uh they had. Uh. They
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: did this experiment way back, like a couple of decades,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: like maybe a decade ago, maybe a decade and a half,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: where they had this lesbian couple being bullied by a
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: server in a restaurant in New York. And then they
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: replicated the same situation in a restaurant in like Houston, Texas. Yes,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: which group of people?
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Which?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Which? Which city had citizens that regularly intervened to oppose
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: the bullying?
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Which city which?
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah? New York.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: So they what they did is they had a lesbian
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: couple being served in a restaurant in New York, and
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: they staged that the waiter the social.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Experiment.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: So they staged they had the waiter the waitress go
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: to the couple and bully them for being obviously a
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: lesbian couple. And they staged this social experiment in New York,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and they staged it in Houston, Texas. Right, in which
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: place do you think bystandards.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Intervened, Uh?
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Houston, Yes, exactly. And the reason why is because even
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: though the politics are more conservative, the bullying is covered
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: by the universalist ethics of be polite, treat people with respect,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: treat them based on their actions, et cetera. Right, So
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the lesbian couple, just like the trans person, just like
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: everybody else, is covered by the universalist ethics. So when
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: somebody who understands things in terms of their actions, these
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: universalist ethics with a set of actions which you're supposed
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to apply consistently to everybody, meets the people who are
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: pushing moral circle, right, so you have to care about
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Martian Rocks. Yeah, there is like this this conflict because
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the person who has the set of universalist ethics but
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: also a constrained group that they actually protect and provide for, right,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: So that's a conservative more conservative. So they protect and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: provide for their family, their community, their congregation, whatever, right.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: They know who they serve, and they know also that
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: they apply these universalist ethics to everybody else. So it's
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: not like they're going out and bashing people's skulls in right.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: But when the moral circle people come and say you
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: have to you have to give you know, you have
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: to tithe to the Martian Rocks. You have to say
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: that you care about the Martian Rocks, the people who
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: are more conservative, right, And that's more of actually the
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: way men view morality. You got an ethical system that
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: you live up to, and then you've got the people
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: you actually protect and provide for. Right. When they say that,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the answer is usually confusion, because it doesn't make sense
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: to say that you have compassion for something that you
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: don't have responsibility for and never have to do lift
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a finger for. So compassion is about doing something or
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: living up to a standard, a universalist ethical standard that
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: you apply to all people. Or it's about making sure
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: your people are protected and provided for. So when you're
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: asked to do the moral circle thing, which is I
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: care deeply about Martian Rocks, you can't because it's not
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: coherent with how you see morality. Morality is an action
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: or an ethic.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I honestly I'm down a rabbit hole and
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm not quite sure why I'm here.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Why am I here, Brian.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know you did that to yourself. I have
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: no idea.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: No, I know I did it to myself. Yeah. Yeah,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: what was the last line we read in this in
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: this article?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Let's see here our findings suggest I think no, no, no,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I think wait, let me just maybe I'll read that one. Yeah,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. Our finding suggests that differences and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: fertility rates across the political spectrum may gradually change in
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the political composition of the US population over time.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Peter said.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: In particular, the decline in overall fertility appears to be
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: driven largely by the sharp decrease in births among individuals
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: left of the political center, possibly since the widespread use
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: of modern contraceptives. Although our data cannot directly prove this mechanism,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: this points to a significant limitation of the research. So, okay,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: wait now, before we keep going, before we keep going,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Just highlight this.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're saying, well, they think that it's because of
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the development of modern contraceptives.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: But I'm not sure that's true.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's true because I think they're trying
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: to avoid the ideological reasons for it. And I think
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: they're trying to say, well, you know, like maybe left
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: wing people are more like they're more modern and they
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: will use the modern things. So they want to use
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the contraceptives so they can have unprotected sex, and like
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: conservatives don't.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: They just have babies. But I don't think that. I
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: don't think that's true.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I think that everyone who's sexually active, they can be
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: anywhere on the political spectrum, and maybe they're not ready
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: for children. And I think that, well, I just don't
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: think it's contraceptives. I'm not sure that that's I can simplification.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: I think that's dodging.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, all right, So I can add another
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: This finding is siloed, right, so he hasn't been looking
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: at the other factors that lead to a decline in fertility. Yeah,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: So what I mean by siloed is that he, you know,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: the finding is probably perfectly robust that there is a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: connection between political affiliation and fertility, but he's not looking
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: at the other connections between other things and low fertility. So,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: for example, marriage and low fertility. So we have now
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: two findings that together are very interesting. One is that
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: married women have approximately the same amount of children that
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: they've always had since the effect of the pill sort
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: of stabilized, so since the nineties. So that's another thing.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: This is all corresponding to the nineties.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Since the nineties, the rate of that married women have
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: children has not decreased. What has decreased is the amount
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: of married women. Okay, so there are far fewer married
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: women than there were in the nineties, which has led
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: to a significant decrease in the amount of children. And
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: another thing that can contributing factor to the decrease in
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: the children is also that single women have are having
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: less children than they did. So there are fewer single mothers,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: probably because they've run out of uncles and grandfathers to
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: help them raise their children. So we're now seeing not
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: just a decline in the number of married women, but
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: also a decline in the number of children that single
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: women have. And so we have that piece of evidence
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: or information. And now we have this piece of information
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: that the decline is greater in individuals who are on
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the left. Just use the left for convenience sake, right,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: So we have these two pieces of information now, and
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: if we put them together, which he doesn't do because
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: his little piece of information is siloed in his little
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: uh you know, mouse cage where he is, so he's
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: not putting this information together. When you put these two
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: pieces of information together, plus the fact that people on
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: the left are less likely to get married than what
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: it is is that people on the left are not
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: pair bonding, right, So that's actually robbably what's driving the
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: lowered fertility. They're not forming pair bonds, they're not finding
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: a mate and forming a relationship, which is the precondition
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: to having children. And it can't be birth control because
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: we've had birth control long enough now for it to
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: have stabilized, right, its effect on people, Like you don't
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: introduce birth control and then the.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Well I said modern contraceptive, So that can also include like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: you know, condoms and yes, yeah, when you say you're
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: not the.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Pill, right yeah, well yeah, we've also had condoms for
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: a while.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: So when you're introduced like when you introduce birth control, right,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that doesn't stop a species from no.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Longer having children.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Mmm, no, I don't.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Just time just time before we had birth control, you know,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: people would uh do other things to prevent pregnancy. Okay,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't, it doesn't, it would not necessary, It
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily stop. It changes the pattern, maybe you know.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: But what it does do is it facilitates a group
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: of women who solely want to use sex for entertainment.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: They now can and follow that particular lifestyle. Whether or
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: not that's beneficial to them as they get older is
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: another question, or beneficial to the men who are part
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: of that lifestyle for that matter.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: But it enables that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: So, but the thing is that it itself can't be
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: driving this because it had married women stabilized in the
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: nineties and they've roughly kept the same amount since then.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: And again the drivers is less married women and fewer
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: single women having children. But single women always never had
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: as many children as married women, so the decline there
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: is substantial, but overall it's not really.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Impacting it that much. It's the fact that.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: There are more single women and single women don't have children.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Married women do. That's it.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And on the left, there are a lot more singles
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: because they aren't pair bonding. Now, why aren't they pair bond?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: That's the question. Like, if we looked at this from
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: a zoologist position, we would have to like, if you
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: were a zoologist, right, and you were studying an endangered species,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: and you had an enclosure that was supposedly, you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: fulfilling its needs and it had abundant like food and water,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: and it had access to mates, and it was not breeding,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: you would know there was a problem. Right, There's something
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: has gone wrong, very wrong. So when you look at
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the left and you see that the left, you know
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: they live in a first world country, which means they
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: have access to clean water, sanitation, safety, shelter, abundant food,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: presumably mates. Whether or not they're signaling receptivity or or
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: acceptability as a mate is another thing. But they do
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: have access to it and they're not having kids.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Right, that means.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Something is wrong, Something is fundamentally wrong and it and
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: now we have evidence that it lies along ideological lines.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: If the left is introducing and it's like it said
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: that environment can also be considered a set of beliefs
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that are being propagated through a community like that has
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that sort of an environmental for humans, that's a very
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: big part of our environment. Right, So there is something
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: wrong with the left, steriously wrong. And I'm just looking
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: at this from a zoological perspective. If you guys aren't breeding,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: there's something wrong with what you're doing. Something massively wrong. Okay,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And what's disturbing is that this guy is not correct
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: in asserting that this is solely like constrained b biology,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: like genetics, like there was no point in time where
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the left out bred the right, and now there's more
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: of them, so obviously this is what's happening, is that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: this mental sterilization is propagating through our culture and now
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: there are more people who are embracing this kind of
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: mental sterilization, and that's what's happening. And we call it
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: the left, but mental sterilization is probably a better term
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: for it considering its ultimate outcome, which is to disavow
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: actually reproducing. And what's interesting about this kind of mental
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: sterilization is its self reinforcing, so it will say, well,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: we're not perpetuating mental sterilization, we're actually empowering people to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: be free. And again, like if you look at it
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: from a a zoologist perspective, this is an empowerment.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: It is the worst.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Like, could you imagine being a zoologist. You have your
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: you have your endangered species, and they're breeding fine, and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: then suddenly it stops, just like the fucking anxiety of that,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? What's wrong, right, That's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: that's what's happening with the left. Right, they are no
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: longer having children. Something has gone very wrong, and they're
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: gonna say, oh no, this is what we intended. This
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: is perfect, this is wonderful, this is this is this
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: is empowerment and freedom. This is uh, this is what
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: we all want guys, yay, and we want to we
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: want to perpetuate. We want to make sure that the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: children of the conservatives also enjoy mental sterilization because it's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: the good thing. It's like, no, actually, this is this
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: is probably a bad sign. I mean, even divorce it
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: from having children, right, which is I know this is important,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: but if you're not even getting to the point where
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: you care, that's a bad sign. Right, You're not even
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: like the left isn't even getting to the point where
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I feel like I'm missing something
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: or I could, but I'm not going to for whatever reason.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: It's like they're not even getting to that point. They're
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: just this this sterile.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Thing.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if I'm getting I'm
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: explaining this right.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: No, they're not even there.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: They've gone from like the left has gone from being
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: able to form some kind of relationship. Right, people on
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: the left have gone from being able to get into
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: partnerships at least like you know, maybe they weren't marrying,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: but they were in common law they were able to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: form stable pair bonds to not even being able to
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: do that too, I don't know, replacing love with drugs
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: and ideology. And it's just like you're just like watching
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: this them get worse and and more insistent that what
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: they're doing to themselves is a good thing. And of
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: course you call it the left because it's a legacy label,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: but what is that. I mean, if the left was
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: breeding prior to the sixties and now it isn't like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: if they were, what happened What happened to you guys? Right?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: What when did the when did the crack house vibe
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: start in the left? Right? When when did you guys
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: start to just die and and give up on being human? Like? Right,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: you know what i mean, And I'm not, I'm you know,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: some people can't have children. I understand that personally, you know,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not calling them out as being like sterile,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: But they still get into relationships, and they have relationships
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: they try to make the world a better place, right,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: This is like complete sterility. Yeah, what happened to you? Guys?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Why are you?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Why are you suffering so much? That's what it would
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: be like. A zoologists would be like this, These animals
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: must be suffering somehow, there must be something wrong with them.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: So why is the left suffering so much? What have
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: you done to yourselves?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Like what, well, there's well, I mean, I don't know,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: there's well. I'm just saying there are multiple there are
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: multiple anti natalist narratives out there, and I think that
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: because they come from academia, some people are more likely
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to believe them because they trust the experts. And some
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: of those things will be things like it's better for
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: the planet that there are fewer people. You should not
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: have kids until you have of an established career and
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: you're like completely settled down and everything is figured out.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: You can't have kids in this economy. You can't find
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: a good mate, Like no men are out here, are
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: not good enough for you.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: There's like there's so many different narratives floating around that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: say you can't do it, or it's irresponsible, or it's evil,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: and it comes from authoritative sources, and I think that people,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: especially women on the left, that they tend to see
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: that and they just like, oh yeah, I should, you know,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: like you just make them into nervous reactions like can't
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I can't have kids, I can't bring a child into
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: this world.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: You hear that all the time.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's the only explanation, but I think
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: that they're there is there's a number of things going on,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: there's multiple narratives floating around, and then there are people
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: who ignore them and they just have kids. So like
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes those people are conservatives, but sometimes they're
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: just people who don't listen to They don't they don't trust,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: you know, like the the approved experts. And I think
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why, you know, like minorities
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of kids. They're also incentivized by
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the welfare state. You know, don't worry about the economy.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: We'll take care of your kids. We'll pay for them.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: So they do so they get bad, you know, they
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: have their incentivized to have kids. So I don't know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, those are my just off the top of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: my head ideas that I think are contributing factors to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: why people are not having kids. So there's lots of
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: stuff to blame, but.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: We'll go ahead, all right.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: So from a young adults twenty five to thirty five,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: forty four percent of liberal women have ever married versus
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: sixty percent of conservative women. Thirty five percent of liberal
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: men versus fifty seven percent of conservative women, so sixteen
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: point gap women. Yeah, So sixty percent of conservative women
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: have been married by thirty five versus forty four percent
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: of liberal women, and thirty five percent of liberal men
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: versus fifty seven percent of conservative men.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: With the whole adult population, sixty two percent of conservatives
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: have been married versus thirty nine percent of liberals. Okay,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: So conservatives are about fifteen percent percentage points more likely
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: to be married than liberals.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: All right, So.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: That's that just well, And the reason why I bring
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: that up is because there's no reason for liberals to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: be less likely to be married. Let's hold out things constant.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: I bet, I bet in the sixties that this wasn't
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: the case, right, that's probably they were close.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: To equally likely to be married. Now they aren't.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: So part of the big driver of this is, again,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: married women have more children than single women. So liberal
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: women are less likely to get married, therefore they're less
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: likely to have children. But it doesn't like you don't
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: have to not get married to not have children, That's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So they're not even forming relationships. Okay,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: so it's not even the situ Like if it was
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: something that was just attacking having children, liberal people would
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: be forming relationships at similar rates to conservative people.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: But they're not.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Do what I'm saying, Brian, Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, they're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: not They're not forming relationships right, So not only are
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: they not having children, they're not forming really and this
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: we're we are a species that's pair bonders, so that's
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: sort of how we're happiest. Unfortunately, I know everybody wants
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: to get away from that, but we tend to be
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: happiest in a pair bond, you know. That's that's that's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: the what we do.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: They're not even doing that. No.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I do think still most men and most women do
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: want to pair bond. I think they do, but they just,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: you know, they have their different reasons for not being
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: able to. And I think that a lot of it
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that men and women
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: don't see each other the same way.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because men masculinity has become a political position, yes,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: And it's.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Because masculinity and masculinity are now political positions, yes.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, and masculinity is the bad political position. They started
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: with the whole oh are you a men rights activist?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: And you're like, well, yeah, and so far as I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: believe men should have rights, do you not? But of
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: course they made that a black category, and that's been
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: creeping wider and wider and wider until a man having
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: an opinion is a men's rights activist.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: So it's like again, it is the anti masculinity versus
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: the everything else party, because if you're not anti masculine,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: that puts you in the black category. Right, So if
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: you're a woman, a feminine woman who likes the masculine man,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: you're in the black category too. So it is masculinity, masculinity, appreciators,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: masculinity neutral, and any any category of person that doesn't
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: want to go with the latest level of anti man,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: anti masculinity that they're they're they're putting out there. Any
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: person like that that is also in the black category.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: So if you if you are okay with like a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: curfew for men, you're like, yeah, maybe we should make
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: make men have to wear ankle bracelets and stay at
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: home after they come home for work, so they just
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: get to go to work, work, come home. That's it, right,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: They have no external privileges in the greater world. If
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: you're okay with that, but you're not okay with like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: killing ninety percent of men and putting the rest in
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: libraries for women to loan out or to borrow should
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: they want to be dicked down.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: For the evening.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: You know, if you're if you're okay with one but
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: not the other, then you are in the black category.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Now that's a bit of an exaggerated thing. These are
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: actual things that have been advanced by feminists. By the way,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I am not lying, but you know if you but
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: what I mean is that even if you are anti mail,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: but you are not at the level the current established
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: acceptable level of being anti mail.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: If you're like, well, I don't like Andrew Tate, but
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: I like Tim Poole, Well no, you can't do that now,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: because Tim pool is just as bad as Andrew Tate.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: He's part of the manosphere, don't you know. So you
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: got to keep up, You got to keep up with
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: the latest level of anti masculinity that you need to
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: be at or you're in the black category. So if
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: you're not anti mail enough, you're in the black category.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: If you like men, you're in the black category. If
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: you're neutral, if you're like you know, men exist, go,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: you're in the black category. Men exist. That's a that's no,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: you're not allowed to think that, you know, it's that's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: where you go. So it's the anti masculinity party and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: every literally everybody else, even if you have a neutral position.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: You're in there.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: And I know there was a comment in one of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: my videos that said, or one of these the shorts
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: that said, oh, this is so reductivist. Yeah, well you
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: want me to read off the the papers that are
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: foundational to this reductionist new political landscape. I could do
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: that for you. Let's see, let me open them up.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: You can have you can have a read yourselves. Guys,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: see see for yourselves.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: What is being I want to I got some like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: paid paid comments I want to.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Read out really quickly.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, sure, all right, So Roboto says for a dollar,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: birth control has always existed historically. Single mothers were also
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: a thing. Historically, the decline is eventual, but the left
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: is not the only ones responsible for the situation that
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I observed. Uh okay, I mean like, could you be
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit more descriptive. It sounds like you're trying
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: to debunk something. We're just reading this thing out, but
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I I do want to hear what you mean by
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: it's not the only ones responsible. Official Reverse Traditionalism channel
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: on YouTube gave us a super chow for five and says,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I find it funny that the left wing supposedly hates capitalism,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: but left wing feminists mostly hate either parents staying either
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: parents staying at home and wants them both to work
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: and pro capitalists. Right wingers are more likely to support
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: both stay at home moms and in my experience, stay
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: at home dads too. Uh yeah, I mean to the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: first part of that. I think that the confusion is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: is that the anti capitalist position that feminists hold is nonsensical,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: but none Nevertheless, they hold it. What they want is stuff.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: They just don't think they should have to work for it,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: And that's basically all you need to know. It's a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: child's way of viewing the world. Yes, I know, but
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: it is the way Richard Bierre gives US five dollars
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: and says the answer to why leftists aren't reproducing is
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: the same answer as to why the mice in the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: mouse Utopia stopped reproducing. It could be a product of
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: peak prosperity, but I think it comes down to self
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: interest and this other this sort of like, you know,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: this reorientation of your priorities as far away from what
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: is within your proximity as possible, hence Martian space rocks.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, so go ahead, I'll see if you're going to
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: read something.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, sure, Like I'm having this ridiculous exchange with
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: this person, he said, what an incredibly faced sitting reductions
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: take nice AI.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Video on the bottom. Hope you're enjoying the RAM shortage
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: and global warming?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: God?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's like how many how many buzzwords?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Was that? Guys?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about, they said, They mentioned
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: global warming, something about RAM shortage. It's all it's just
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: like crisis, crisis, crisis. You can't have kids right now.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: They're building data centers. You can't have kids right now.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: The earth is on fire. You can't have kids right now.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: The earth is freezing. You can't have kids right now.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: The water it's poisonous. You can't have kids right now?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: You see what I'm that person is literally making the
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: argument that we're talking about. And I see that there's
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: someone in chat that keeps talking about this is actually
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: about white people. This is affecting everybody, everybody, everywhere. I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: know that you're like one of these wignats that thinks that, like,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: if we just focus on the white race, we're gonna
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: be fine.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Guess what, dude, The biggest obstacle to your problem is
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: your women.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: They are the number one obstacle that you're not gonna
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: be able to beat by simply like throwing up fucking
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like uh Heliopolis memes and like and edits
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: and like whatever. You're not gonna be able to do
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: that because the women are your problem. And guess what,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: that makes this a gender problem, not a race problem.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: If your women don't want to have kids with you,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: then you guys are in the same shape as everybody else.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: So and I'm not even mad. I just think it's
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: hilarious that you're still over here going, well, it's white.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Look, I get it.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like the anti white stuff at all. I'm
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: constantly speaking out against it. But the white women are
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the reason that you guys are in the shape that
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: you're in. Okay, it's your women, you and I want
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: to hear exactly your plan to change that. I want
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: to hear that because they have the lowest in group
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: preference of any group on the planet. So you're not
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to tell them. But don't you want
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: to save white people? They're gonna laugh in your face.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to fix that. Tell me what
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: your plan is, dude, tell me, give me your plan.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Tell me how are you gonna save the white race
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: by like getting your white women to make babies for
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: you when they literally are poisoned against you. Tell me
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: how are you gonna fix that? Okay, go ahead, Alison. Look,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm I hate the anti white stuff, I do. I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: despise it, but the white women are like leading that charge.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, there's no you know, I'm sorry,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: there's no answer to that.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, no, it's true. You gotta you gotta
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: wrangle those white women.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: So, but that was actually on me talking about how
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: there is the left or the legacy left, the left
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: based on the legacy term.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: You can call it the Marxist left if you want,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I guess, or the identitarian left.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: The feminist left is probably the feminist left.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, probably the feminist left.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: The feminist left as distinct from the left with any
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: masculine values left, which would be holding up a universal
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: standard of ethics and being able to want to be
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: able to get a job that can pay for your family. Right,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: the feminist left made masculinity a political position. And I
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: am going to give you some reading material.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: This is some homework for everyone. Uh Pleck j H.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety five, The gender Roll, Strain, Paradigm and update.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: All right, this is.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: And Plaque is the coiner of masculine ideology. He specifically
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: chose ideology over attitudes because he felt attitudes was too neutral.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: He wanted to frame masculinity as a system, a belief
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: system similar to I don't know, Nazism and Satanism and
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: anything bad you can think.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: You put it into that category. So Black JH.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty one. The Myth of masculinity. That's what he wrote,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: The myth of masculinity. Okay, and here's another one you
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: can look at Johnson and Plack nineteen eighty six the
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: structure of male role norms. Now, when when feminists talk
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: about norms like masculine norms, they're not norms and they're
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: not masculine because their instruments are general rejected by men.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: So they are the they have.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: The conformity to masculine norms.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: Inventory.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: The conformity of masculine norms inventory has well. The latest one,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: the one that's beloved by the International Development bankers is
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: UH has five norms, two of which are completely rejected
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: by men, one of which scores neutral, and two that
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: they are mildly endorsed. So on a scale from like
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: when I say mildly endorsed, on a scale from I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: don't give a fuck to eh, maybe they're at a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: one fourth of an eh, maybe endorsed by men. All right,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: this is what the feminists have built. This is what
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: feminists say men agree to, and they're flatly rejected by
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: men because men. Feminists are not constructing a scale of
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: what men think, what the values men hold. They are
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: constructing a scale of what feminists think the values men
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: hold are. So this is that what men what the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: what feminists think men hold in terms of values, what
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: feminists think men's values are scale rejected by men except
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: for two which get a maybe. Right, This isn't the
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: state of the art, the feminist masculinity state of the art.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: They've constructed a scale that men say doesn't actually resemble them,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: but we're gonna continue to push it because it's scary,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: because the feminists have called it the male dominance scale,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: even though it has the dominance items on the scale
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: are the most rejected by men. But they're gonna keep
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: pushing this notion that this is what men are, this
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: is what men value, even in defiance of the men
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: themselves consistently saying this is not what we are and
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: this is not what we value. They are forcing masculinity
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: to be a particular political position which does not resemble
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: the opinions of men at all. And they're pushing this everywhere,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: including into the Association of the American Psychology Associations Treatment
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: of Men and Boys. So this has gone into the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: psychology industry. It is definitely in the education industry. It
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: is in finance, international development finance, it is in government branches,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: it's in NGOs, it's pretty much anywhere you can find
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: a pulpit. These people are pushing this idea that men
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: have a men are a political position, and that political
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: position is bad, all right, And then there's the next one.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Bompson and Plaque, nineteen ninety five. Masculine Ideologies Masculine Political Positions.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: A Review of research instrumentation on men and masculinities. Not
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: studying men or masculinity, just studying what feminists assert. The
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: political position that men are basically the feminists assert, And
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: it makes perfect sense because feminism is a political position itself,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: even though it says it's basically just reality. That's what
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: feminists assert about themselves. So when you have a godly
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: political position that cannot be questioned as all right, you
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: of course have to have a satanic counterpart, which is men.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: I wonder if this is gonna have a have a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: you know, this is gonna have some full you know,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: some on I wonder if this is gonna have some
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: bad effects on the on the fertility rate of everybody
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: who embraced this. We're we're gonna we're gonna make feminism women.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: We're gonna say we set we talk for women. We
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: are the good people, we are the godly people. We
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: have it all figured out. We know what right is,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: and if you question us, you're in a black category.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: And of course we need an opposition, and our opposition
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: is can't be women, because we got that covered with feminism.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: It's got to be men in masculinities. I wonder if
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: doing this, if putting women in an unassailable category, at
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: least your definition of women, which they can't even describe,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: in an unassailable category, and then making men into a black,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: a political black category, might create a problem when men
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: and women have to come together and produce new political categories.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Brian, Hmm, it's a thunker, isn't it.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, and it might create it might You might actually
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: see like the destruction, like the the the rings of destruction,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: and they center on the ideal or the political groups
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: that have embraced this first right. So you make you
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: turn being feminism, you turn female into the good political category,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: you turn male into the masculine ideologies, which is the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: bad political category. And then the people who embrace this
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: first see the biggest cratering in their formation, their Paara
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: bond formation, and then subsequently their births, right their birth rate.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I think that I think that might be evidence for
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: this not being a good thing to do, but.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: You know, what do I know? I'm just witter on
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: and on and on.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: All right, So we got masculinity ideologies or review of
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: research instrumentation on not men and not masculinities, and then
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: we got WS. Pollock a New Psychology of men. So
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: basically the new psychology guys is feminists.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Tell you what your norms are.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: You say, yeah, these aren't our norms, and then feminism
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: tells you this is how you can get better and
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: no longer have those norms that we've said you have,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: and you say that we don't. Yeah, like, what level
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: of fuckery are we at now? Right? I mean I'm
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: thinking this is this is levels of fuckery that you know,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: like the the aliens just sort of go by, you know,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: and they're like just looking and they're like, Yep, they're
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: still fuckery. They're still fucking around. They're just they're still
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: just they're not even dealing with the last fuckery. They're
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: just layering more fuckery on top of this fuckery.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: Let's just keep going.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: They're not part of the federation, they're not ready for
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the federation yet. Let them cook for a little longer.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: All right, okay, go ahead, Yeah.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm just looking to see if I haven't
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: if I haven't missed any super chats and stuff. So no,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: we're good. Okay, send us a message if you guys
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: want to, and.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send us a super chowd get those super chows up.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Feed the Badger dot com slash it's the tip.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Did we get any I got two, but I already
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: read them, so thank you for those who did. Sing. Yeah,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: that's fine. Oh all right, the.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Snack has has uh, he's uh, he's come through with
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: the actual document. Let me see if I I'm gonna I'm
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: gonna download it and I'll put it into my I'll
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: put it into punished Claude and see what punished Claude
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: says about the actual study.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: So continue, Brian yep uh wait.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Sunshine and Coffee said at bagelized streams, I guarantee you
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: if every white woman laughs in your faces, it's because
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: you have white guilt, like all white people who embrace.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: Anti white narrative. I have news for you.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not white, but nice try also married to a
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: white woman. But maybe I'm the problem.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: So anyway, this points to a significant limitation of the research.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: The study relies on observational data, meaning it cannot prove
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: that holding a left wing at itude directly causes a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: person to have fewer children. The survey data did not
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: track individual fertility intentions or contraceptive use. Richard Bierre says
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: he did send another one, but it hasn't showed up yet,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: So I.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Guess it's sad.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: We hypothesize the We hypothesize that differences in the use
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: of modern contraceptives contributed to the dramatic decline in fertility
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: among individuals left.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: Of the political center.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Feeder said, However, our data do not allow us to
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: directly test or confirm this hypothesis. Additionally, measuring political orientation
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: on a simple left to right scale oversimplifies the complex
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: nature of human ideology. Yes, that's what I was saying.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: People often hold a mix of socially conservative and economically
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: liberal views, which might influence their life choices in different ways.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, We're gonna say so.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Now they found something and their wawing it back.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, or they're just like covering their bases in
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: case somebody goes through.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like they're like.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Well, actually it's not just that it's you know, because yeah,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: the truth is is that most people are a mixed bag.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I did get a the super Chow came through. Richard
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: Pierre gave us five and said. Something that doesn't get
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of mention about the mouse Utopia experiment is
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: how much nesting space went unutilized as.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: The population grew.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Even at the population's peak, there was a significant amount
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: of nesting spaces that were never used or explored by
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: the mice.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm going to do another.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do another call out guys, so go to
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: feed the Badger dot com slash support to support the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: show if you enjoy this kind of analysis. I'm actually curious,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: like somebody go and put five dollars in. I want
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: to make sure this is working because I had to
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: recently make this change it up. So it's feed Thebadger
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: dot com slash support. Please help out, you know, and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: I'm very much appreciate it if someone would do that.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, continue, Brian, Okay.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Future research could explore how different types of conservatism, such
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: as economic versus social conservatism, affect family planning. The researchers
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: also plan to examine how these patterns operate outside of wealthy,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: post industrial nations. We would also like to examine whether
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: similar trends are beginning to emerge globally, particularly in developing countries,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: where our twenty eighteen study suggested that fertility rates across
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: the political spectrum were still relatively balanced. Feeder said the study.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: So there are the studies here. I don't know if
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: you need the link to this, but I will copy
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: it and give it to you. So the study Falling
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Fertility on the Left as key driver of US birth
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: decline was authored by Martin Feeder and Suzanne Huber. All right,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: let me go ahead and I'll just give you the
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: link to this. I put it in the uh so
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: you can like run it through your punished claud And
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: that's the end of the article. So I guess it
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't quite as well. It's actually not too short. But
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: there isn't a lot there. It's a lot of like
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: speculative stuff. But I guess on the upside, there is
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: a conversation happening about this, But I don't think they're quite.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: You know, moving in the right direction in my opinion.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Uh, okay, So I got some like I guess they're
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: not Wignats, but they're hopeful Wignats. Sunshine and Coffee said,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: so you admit you're projecting at badger live streams?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Or do you hate your wife so much to disrespect
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: your father?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Are you saying the men of her side of the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: family are inferior to yours? I don't know where you're
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: getting this, Like, where are you getting this from? I
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: love my wife because we shared the same values. I
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: didn't really find I wasn't thinking about, Oh, I better
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: find me another Puerto Rican girl, Like I was just like, yeah,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: this girl's cool. What guys, don't you think that you're
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: kind of like fixated a little bit.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: It's a little strange, but go ahead, Alison Well, I
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: was like, you know what.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not even going to wait into this.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: This is too No, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: Wignet want to be.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: No, I just I just do you have you ever
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: tried not hating anybody on the basis of race? Is
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: your marriage based on your wife having white guilt? Based
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: on your reaction? It sounds like that's how you framed
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: your marriage. I don't what are you talking about, guys
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: in the chat?
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: But I don't want to inform everyone we.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Are not married me and Brian. We are married to
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: completely different people.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't think they're assuming that.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just but I'm just saying that because
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: I am a white woman who married a white man.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I guess you better than I did.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: I guess I never really, I don't think that this
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: is necessarily like, honestly, I am just here because I
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: want the hatred of men to stop.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I think it's I think it's more important.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it isn't I'm not here to save
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: the white race. I think that probably an end result
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: of getting the hatred of men to stop is that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: white people will be able to replicate again, if that's
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: what's critical. Right. But it's just like I started this
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: and I was just like, I don't I really don't
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: like how much people hate men. Where is this coming from?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: And then I just started digging, and here we are.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: This this stuff is It's crazy, Like the fact that
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: there is a group of people in academia who turned
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: being a man into a political position is insane. But
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: it makes perfect sense when you understand that feminism is
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: a political position. It is a political ideology. It has
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: particular ideas about what the problem is and what the
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: solution is. And when you have such a what is
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: the word for it, like an ideology that cannot be critiqued.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: It cannot be opposed, It cannot be criticized analyzed, it
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: cannot be falsified, which is terrifying. Like feminism has incredible
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: influence and it's a belief system that has no falsification.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: It assumes for itself the power of a science in
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: terms of being correct about reality, and yet it has
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: never been stated in a way that can be falsified.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: And that's really critical for science because if you can't
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: falsify it, you've never proven it true. Right, So it's
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: never been proven true that none of the things that
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: they assert have been proven true, none of them. And
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: when they have actually gone close to falsifying their belief
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: system has been it has not. It's actually been falsified.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: It's found that feminism does not predict things. That's one thing,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Like if you have a hypothesis and it predicts things,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: it gets upgraded to a theory. Feminism has failed every
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: time it's attempted to predict anything, including the masculine norms
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: that feminists say men must hold, well, men don't. These
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: norms that they keep pushing out and spending millions upon
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars, and now somehow, through some occult means,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: are probably informing the UH funding decision, of development decisions
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: developmental banks around the world. These norms, which were predicted
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: by feminism men reject. So the norms that feminists predicted
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: men would hold is another point of failure to predict
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: of feminism because men reject them. Right. So, when you
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: create this unfalsifiable, supposedly scientific system, political ideology advocacy group
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: which is absolutely hegemonic, right, it has it brooks no
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: dissent from itself. Of course, you're gonna need some kind
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: of evil. That's what happens. You're gonna need some kind
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: of evil that you're constantly fighting against. Well. Enter patriarchy,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: enter masculine ideology, Enter the political belief systems that men
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: hold in which they want to keep women down for
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: their own benefit. That's what this is about. That's what
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: this field is saying. That men want to lord it
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: over women so that they gain benefit from women. That's
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: what That's what the cm NI five is named after
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: its power over women. The men want power over women
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: so that they can they can gain from it, so
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: that they can they can whip them and make them
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: work the minds, whatever else. Right that they're trying to
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: make that a reality, that everybody thinks that men hold
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: that political position. Right, Brian holds the political position. He
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: wants to make women serve him.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that's.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: That, that's what they want. That's what they say men want.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Men reject it doesn't matter, doesn't matter what men think
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: about themselves or their own opinions of what they value.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Feminism has said, you all are part of the patriarchy party,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: and you all want power over women, and you all
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: want to be violent, and you all want to win,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: and you all want to gain whatever it is they
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: think that you gain from having power over women. You're
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: all part of this political force that's against everything good
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: and wholesome and American pie and fuzzy little kittens. You're
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: all fricking Satanists in God's kingdom. And God's kingdom is feminism,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: right like that That is what creates, that's what you create.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: That's what you end up having to have when you
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: have a monolithic hegemonic, unassailable, single point of view that
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: assumes for itself all good and it cannot be questioned.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: It needs an evil. It inevitably creates an evil, and
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: the evil is men. Let's be honest here, the evil
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: is men. And even if you're like, no, I'm a
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: good feminist man. I don't even expect my wife to
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: stay faithful to me, because that would be removing her
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: bodily autonomy. I don't expect anything. I just provide and
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: she does whatever she wants. She doesn't even live with me,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: she lives with her five boyfriends whatever else. Even if
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: you're the perfect feminist man who requests nothing, you are
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: still part of the hedgeman, like you are still part
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: of masculine ideologies.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: What do you want a pedpat.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: You want to you want to eat the fact that
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: you even feel good about yourself as you exploiting your
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: wife by giving her all the freedom she wants, paying
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: for her condo with her harem of five, I don't know,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: uh Jamaican boyfriends, right, you're paying for all that you
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: but you still feel good about yourself about it. You're
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: exploiting her, She's doing emotional labor for you, taking that
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: much dick making you feel good about being cooked. She
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: you are exploiting her emotional labor, sir, Like, this is
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: the insan. I I know I'm bringing this to an
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: absurd degree, but it's it is there. I've s I've
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  Speaker 2: seen it. I've seen feminists say to feminist men, the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they even feel good about themselves for being
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: feminist men is somehow an imposition on women, Like they
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: don't want you to exist or they don't want you
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: to have any mind separate from whatever they've defined women's
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: benefit to be that day. And they define women and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: they define benefits so they could be whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: They're giving them a million bucks, giving them their your
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: social securities numbers so that they can fake you and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: you know, a fake who being you and then max
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: out all your credit cards whatever it is they want.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: That's that's women's benefit today, Guys, that's women's benefit. You know,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: a spoofing silver that's women's benefit today.
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  Speaker 4: You better be okay with that?
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, I'm done, all right, I have concluded.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I'm done with the article. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to, like have any final thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: On this or what Okay, So let me just see
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  Speaker 2: all right, so what is the overclaim for this research?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you yeah, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the study.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So.
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  Speaker 2: A regression coefficient, okay, so the authors concede this. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we cannot establish causual relationships. So right wing identifying GSS
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  Speaker 2: report respondence born after nineteen forty three report more completed
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: children than left identifying one's cross sectionality. All right, So
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: basically that's it, that's the conclusion. But then you know
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: why why And they would have started to have children
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  Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies, So why is it that
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies we started to see that
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: split between right wing people having children and most likely
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: right wing people pair bonding, which is really what's happening
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: is right wing people are getting into relationships and then
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: subsequently having children, and then left wing people no longer
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: being able to pair bond, which for a pair bonding
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: species is a really bad sign. So something has gone
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: seriously wrong in the left wing community, and something went
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: seriously wrong with left wing thought in the sixties and seventies. Hmmm, Brian, Wait,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: the sixties and seventies. That sounds like something something went wrong. Okay,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: So in the cohort where this split happened and the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: right wing started to reproduce more, which probably means they
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: got into relationships more to reproduce more. That started in
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: the seventies, the sixties and seventies. I'm just saying that's
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: the sixties and seventies. That sounds it's suspicious, isn't it
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: at that particular time period, A little suspicious something was
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: going on in the sixties, late sixties. It would have
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: been the late sixties too, Yeah, because if it's nineteen
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  Speaker 2: forty three and you're seventy, you're seventeen, right in sixty
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, which means you're probably not starting to have
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: children until the mid sixties to the late sixties to
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: the seventies, Right, So, what's happening in the late sixties,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: the mid to late sixties to the seventies, what's happening
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: to cause this split? What's happening to cause people of
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: that generation to stop pairing up? What's happening there, What's
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: going on? What's going on in the late sixties to seventies?
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: What started then? I don't know, Like what cultural thing occurred.
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  Speaker 2: I'll leave that as a as an exercise for the viewer,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: because that might be the that might be the smoking
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: gun friends right there. Yeah, yep, it's too bad because
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: that would be where the problems start, right That's that's
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: where the the organism flatly rejects its environment and stops actually.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: Pair bonding or reproducing. Okay, anyway, so.
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  Speaker 2: I'll check, I'll poke the bulls to see if we
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: have any comments.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I've been all over the place today. Maybe
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: a little bit too much.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when when we started this, I said that, uh,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: I said, you remember I talked about how the left was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I used the example of the atheist community.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: So it started out and it was it was about
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: questioning a belief system, and then it started to adopt
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: this notion that atheism was better for women because it
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: was questioning religion, which was bad for women. And then
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: it got co opted by atheism plus, which was basically
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: feminist coming in and saying, oh, so you think your
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: community is better for women, well you better let us,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: you know, take it over because of that, and then
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: they did. So it's like the community got taken over
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: by this narrative of female victimhood. I wonder if maybe
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: that's just a little microcosm of what happened to the
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: left in the late sixties to the seventies. It got
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: taken over by a narrative of female victimhood, because it
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: just seems it feels like those dates are really like
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: they're showing up a lot, you know what I mean.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: They're they're resurfacing and there seem to be coinciding with problems.
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  Speaker 2: another thing that I found out is the the e
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  Speaker 2: b r D, which is like the European Developmental Bank.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's activities in because it was it essentially works
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  Speaker 2: in the post Soviet Bloc countries, which is really strange
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  Speaker 2: because it promotes like gender equality, but it's in post
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  Speaker 2: kind of gender projects where there's DII and ESG or
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: the previous forms of DEI and ESG basically just bringing
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: feminism into the boardroom when they instituted their projects. And
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: they're there are two groups that actually are part of
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: the Eastern Bloc countries. It's the World Bank and the
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  Speaker 2: European Development Bank. And the World Bank is actually the Veto.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: It's veto is the US Treasury Department, and the US
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: Congress elects its president. So this is actually very much
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: a US initiative with European banks. And they went into
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  Speaker 2: the Eastern country, the Eastern Bloc, like the former Soviet countries,
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  Speaker 2: where there was already high female workforce participation and there
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: was already gender egalitarian norms, and then they brought them
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  Speaker 2: more of that, the Western style, shall we say, And
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  Speaker 2: as soon as they started, thirteen of those countries saw
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: a decline in their birth rates, like almost coincidental with
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: the initiation of these people's activities in their countries. And
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: what's really interesting about that is because they already started
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: with a high rate of female education, female workplace participation,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: and Soviet gender norms, a gender egalitarianism. But then they
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: brought in the Western feminism and everybody stopped having babies.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: Well not everybody, but you know, they started to stop.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder something happened in the late sixties to the
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  Speaker 2: seventies right to cause the left to stop breeding, and
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  Speaker 2: something happened in these Eastern Bloc countries when we started
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: to import Western feminism that stopped them breeding. I wonder
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