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Jackson Hole: Is The World's Best Skiing Worth The INSANE Price? · Phil and H Travel - Is It Worth It? Top Travel Destinations Explored!

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  OK, so let's just say the words Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
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  I mean, for a certain kind of person, just hearing that name,
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  it conjures up this image, right?
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  It's the Holy Grail of American skiing.
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  It is. It's the dream.
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  It's the place you see in all the movies, all the magazines.
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  It really is the top of the mountain, literally and
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  figuratively. It's the destination that sits
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  at the top of every single serious skier's bucket list.
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  And this is the entire reason we're doing this deep dive.
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  If you look at it just from the numbers, from the cold hard math
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  of it all, Jackson Hole is statistically probably the most
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  financially irresponsible major vacation you can take in the
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  United States. Wow, OK, that's a bold statement
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  right out of the. Gate.
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  Well, with a huge caveat. If, and this is the most
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  important word you'll hear today, if you go in unprepared,
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  if you don't have absolute clarity on what you're paying
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  for and maybe more importantly, what the mountain itself demands
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  of you, OK, but. Let's let's set the spreadsheets
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  aside for just one second, because the feeling is a huge
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  part of this. I want you, our listener, to
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  just picture this. You've just taken that famous
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  aerial tram, Big Red all the way up.
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  It's a 4139 vertical foot climb and you're standing at the
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  summit over 10,000 feet up 10. 1450 to be exact.
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  And you look out and you see the entire Teton range.
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  It's, it's genuinely a spiritual view.
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  The air is so thin and so cold it feels like it's snapping
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  inside your lungs. It's electric up there.
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  It's the only place in America I've been that really feels like
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  the Alps in terms of scale and just pure drama.
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  But instead of, you know, charming little European
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  villages, you get this raw, unapologetic Wild West vibe.
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  It's like the out but with Cowboys.
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  And that's the tension right there.
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  That's the whole Jackson Hole dilemma in a nutshell.
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  What do you mean? You have the majesty of the
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  Tetons, which you know they're completely indifferent to your
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  vacation plans or your budget, and then you have the reality on
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  the ground. The $30 burgers.
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  The $30 burgers, the $40 a day parking, the very, very real
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  possibility that your flight home is going to be cancelled
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  for three days because the runway is a sheet of ice.
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  The tension between the ideal and the logistical reality, it's
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  palpable. Absolutely.
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  So that's our mission today. We are doing a deep dive
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  specifically for you to figure this out.
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  We're looking at Jackson Hole Mountain Resort, JHMR, and the
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  huge, intimidating but amazing Backcountry that surrounds it in
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  Teton National Park. We're breaking down the
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  logistics, the math, the safety protocols and the stories, the
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  incredible highs and the very, very costly lows.
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  To answer 1 fundamental question Is Jackson Hole worth the price
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  of admission for you? And just to hook you right away,
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  we went through a whole stack of sources for this local
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  reporting, avalanche forecasts, travel blogs, financial
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  analysis, and we've distilled it down into 3 kind of contrarian
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  surprises. OK, let's hear them.
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  Nugget #1 is what we're calling the humility check.
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  You probably aren't a good enough skier to actually enjoy
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  the most famous terrain there. Ouch.
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  And we're going to explain why that's actually OK and why
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  accepting that is the key to having a great trip.
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  All right, what's nugget 2? The best powder You know that
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  deep, untracked snow that Jackson is famous for?
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  It's not actually at the main resort.
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  Wait, what? Where is it then?
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  Geographically, it's reliably on the other side of the rock in
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  Idaho, and we'll tell you exactly how to get there.
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  OK, fascinating and #3. That authentic cowboy vibe
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  you're expecting that rugged old school Western grit?
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  Yeah. The sources are pretty clear
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  that it's, well, it's largely manufactured now.
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  It's been engineered for the billionaires that have flooded
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  the valley. The grit is still there, but you
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  have to work really hard to find it.
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  But I have to say, and you have to agree with this, despite all
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  of that, despite the cost, the logistics, if you hit Jackson
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  Hole on a true Bluebird powder day, it will ruin you.
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  It will absolutely ruin every other ski resort on earth for
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  you. I.
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  Cannot argue with that. The quality of the mountain when
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  it is on is a benchmark you will spend the rest of your life
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  trying to get back to. O I'm here for the feeling, the
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  stories, and the safety protocols you cannot ignore.
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  And I've got the logistics, the cost breakdowns and all the
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  planning headaches. This is the deep dive.
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  Let's get into it. And we have to start by setting
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  expectations, because the Jackson of today is so
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  drastically different from what it was even five years ago.
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  It really is, And the speed of that change is what's so
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  fascinating Economists are calling it the Yellowstone
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  Effect. From the TV show.
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  Partly, yeah. It's a combination of that huge
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  media exposure and, you know, the massive pandemic driven
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  shift of wealth. People with a lot of money
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  wanted remote open spaces with high end amenities and Jackson
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  was Ground Zero for that. It's wild to think about.
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  I mean, this used to be a ski bum town, a place where you had
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  like generations of locals living next to the first wave of
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  millionaires. It had a real tangible grit to
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  it. And now the sources we looked at
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  show the wealth is just escalated to a level nobody
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  could have predicted. We're not talking about
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  millionaires anymore. We're talking about billionaires
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  actively pushing the millionaires.
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  Out pushing the millionaires out, that's that's a whole
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  different level. The cost of living is it's not
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  just astronomical, it's genuinely hostile to anyone
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  working a local service job. I saw one report that the median
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  single family home price in Jackson Hole just soared past $4
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  million. And that's not for like a
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  slopeside mansion, right? That's the median home.
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  That's the median, and you feel those ripple effects everywhere.
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  We read about local businesses, community staples that had to
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  shut down because they literally could not afford to house their
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  own staff. There's nowhere for them to
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  live. So that expectation of a rugged
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  West town, it's gone. It's been replaced by a reality
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  we started calling Manhattan in moon boots.
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  It's the perfect description. It really captures that
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  collision of worlds. You go on social media, you go
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  on Instagram and you see these perfectly curated reels.
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  Of Corbett's Kular. Exactly of some pro skier
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  dropping into Corbett's that insane near vertical shoot and
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  you think OK that's the vibe? Or do you see a picture of the
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  $1,000,000 Cowboy Bar with the Saddle Bar Schools?
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  And you assume the whole town is like that, quaint and western.
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  And that is absolutely a trap. You have to reset your
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  expectations the second you land.
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  The authenticity isn't just handed to you anymore.
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  If it's there, it's either hard to find or it's been sort of
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  packaged for the high end consumer.
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  It's a high traffic, high cost machine.
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  Acknowledging that commercial reality is step one.
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  I do want to push back on the idea that the authenticity is
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  completely gone, because while the town itself might feel like
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  an outdoor mall for billionaires, the mountain
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  doesn't care. I completely agree.
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  The mountain is the soul of the experience and the geology there
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  is. It's totally unique.
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  It forces you to be humble. It really does.
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  Unlike say, the Rockies in Colorado where you foothills
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  that kind of gradually lead them to the peaks.
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  The Tetons are a fault block range.
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  They just shoot straight up from the valley floor.
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  There are no foothills. It's just bam.
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  Wall of Rock and that creates this insane visual drama.
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  These massive vertical faces rising thousands of feet right
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  in front of you makes you feel incredibly small.
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  And that feeling, that feeling of being small, that has to be
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  your core expectation. Humility.
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  This mountain demands respect physically, mentally and
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  logistically and. Technically, that humility is
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  mandatory. Let's get into the terrain
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  itself, because it is steep, it is demanding, and it is
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  unrelenting. The key statistic you have to
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  internalize is that 50% one half of the marked trails at Jackson
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  Hole Mountain Resort are rated expert. 50% How does that
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  compare to other big resorts? Most other major resorts in
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  North America, you know, Vail or Whistler, they have around 35,
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  maybe 40% expert terrain. 50 is enormous.
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  It's an outlier. And we should probably define
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  what expert even means in Jackson, because it's not just a
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  steep groomed run. No, not at all.
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  A lot of these expert runs, especially on the upper
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  mountain, are deliberately left ungroomed.
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  Yeah. So you're dealing with these
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  massive frozen moguls that are the size of small cars.
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  You're dealing with ICE with super variable conditions.
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  We're talking about places like the Alta shoots or the Hoebacks,
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  which are just these huge wild bowls.
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  So you're paying for access to world class steepness that is
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  often left in its raw natural state.
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  Which has immediate financial consequences for the average
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  skier, right? It's the entire value
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  proposition problem right there. If you're an intermediate skier,
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  someone who loves a good groomed blue run, maybe we'll try some
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  easy moguls. You're paying the highest lift
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  ticket price in North America for terrain you literally cannot
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  touch. You can't enjoy it.
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  You can't even safely navigate it.
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  You are paying a massive premium for a resource you are not
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  using. The value equation for an
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  intermediate skier is immediately negative.
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  You are are paying for the reputation and the
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  infrastructure that supports the top 10% of skiers.
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  And then if your goal is to go beyond the resort into the
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  National Park, right, which is super easy to do, you literally
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  just duck under a rope. Then the expectation has to
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  shift from steep to unmitigated danger.
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  That's a strong phrase. It has to be because it's truly
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  wild. Once you cross that rope, you
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  leave behind the entire safety net you just paid $230 for.
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  No ski patrol, no monitoring, and absolutely 0 avalanche
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  control. Let's define that.
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  Avalanche control means they're not using explosives to
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  intentionally trigger small slides to make the snowpack
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  safer. Exactly.
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  Outside the ropes, the snowpack is just sitting there in its
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  natural, unstable state. You are completely and totally
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  on your own, and you have to have that expectation burned
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  into your brain before you even think about going there.
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  OK, so that sets a pretty demanding stage for the
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  mountain, but the fight often starts way before you even click
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  into your skis. Let's talk about the logistical
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  nightmare of just getting there and getting around.
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  The arrival shock is a real thing.
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  You fly into JC Jackson Hole airport.
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  Which is famous for being the only commercial airport in the
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  entire United States. It's located completely inside a
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  National Park. Grand Teton National Park, and
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  that arrival is, it's overwhelming in a good way.
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  You're descending, and the Grand Teton itself is right there
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  outside your window. It's terrifying and beautiful.
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  It is hands down the most stunning airport approach in the
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  world. But then you land, and that
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  beauty gives Wade some very real, very practical problems.
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  Number one is wind and cold. The wind is a constant issue.
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  It causes flight cancellations all the time.
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  The airport is just really exposed and if you get any kind
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  of cross wind with a little bit of ice, you're grounded
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  sometimes for days and the. Cold.
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  It's not just chilly mountain air.
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  We're talking bone shattering cold.
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  The valley is like a geographical bowl.
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  It traps that frigid air. It's not uncommon to see morning
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  temperatures of -20°F. That's -29 Celsius.
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  If if you're not prepared for that kind of exposure, you're
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  going to be miserable from minute 1.
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  OK, so here's what you flagged as the single biggest logistical
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  mistake people make the town versus village disconnect.
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  This is so critical. You have to understand this.
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  They're not the same place. Right, you have the town of
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  Jackson. That's the historic town with
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  the antler arches, the $1,000,000 cowboy bar, the art
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  galleries and the slightly, and I mean slightly cheaper hotels.
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  And then 12 miles away you have Teton Village.
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  That's the base of the ski resort, that's where the tram
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  is, that's where all the expensive ski and ski out hotels
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  are. And that 12 mile separation,
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  that's the whole problem. It leads directly to the commute
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  choke point. The drive itself is beautiful,
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  don't get me wrong. You go right past the National
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  Elk Refuge. You can see thousands of elk
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  wintering there. It's incredible.
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  But you'll be looking at them through a wall of red brake
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  lights. Exactly, there's basically 1
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  main road Hwy. 22 into 390 and it just funnels all the traffic
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  into this one spot. My sources consistently said
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  people lose an hour, a day, an hour of their incredibly
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  expensive vacation just sitting in traffic.
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  That completely defeats the purpose.
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  It does, but I will say once you fight through that traffic and
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  you finally get the Teton Village, the energy is it's
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  worth. It it's electric, right?
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  Standing at the base of the tram in the morning, The whole vibe
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  is just serious, focused. It's a very international crowd.
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  You hear French, German, Australian accents everywhere.
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  And you can see it in what people are wearing.
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  The vibe is what we called athletic wealth.
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  Right, no fur coats. No.
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  You see $900 arcturic shells, but they're battered, they're
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  beaten up. Maybe they have some duct tape
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  on a tear. It shows they've been used and
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  used hard, probably in the Backcountry.
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  The money is there, but the real status symbol is proficiency.
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  It's 100% feels like a proving ground, like you have to earn
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  your turns and then you have to earn that beer at the end of the
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  day. And Speaking of earning it, that
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  leads us right to the numbers. Let's move from the feeling to
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  the figures, because we have to be direct here.
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  All the data shows that Jackson Hole is right now arguably the
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  most expensive ski destination in North America.
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  OK, so let's break it down with our three categories for you,
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  the listener, the minimalist traveler, the mid range
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  enthusiast and the luxury manager.
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  Let's start with the budget band, or the minimalist.
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  This is the person who is determined to ski the steeps but
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  wants to be as frugal as possible.
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  What's the bottom line number for them?
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  The absolute minimum daily cost, and this is excluding your
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  flight and your gear, is around $250 a day, and that is only if
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  you make some very serious sacrifices.
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  Wow, that is tight. How do you even do that in
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  Jackson? OK, so accommodation eats up
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  most of it. Your cheapest options are the
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  hostel right in Teton Village or Motel 6 or Super Eight.
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  Way out in the town of Jackson, you're still looking at 150 to
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  $200 a night minimum. And that's probably for a shared
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  dorm room at the hostel. Exactly.
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  And then you have the lift ticket.
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  We mentioned it, but the sticker truck is real.
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  If you don't have an icon pass or a mountain collective pass,
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  you walk up to the window, you're paying over $230 for one
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  day of skiing. So your lift ticket alone can
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  blow that entire 250 budget. On many days, yes.
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  So for food, the sacrifice is huge.
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  You're at the grocery store, you're eating gas station
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  burritos, maybe some ramen in your room. 30 bucks a day tops.
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  No restaurants. But there is one saving grace
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  for this category, right? A critical nugget.
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  Yes, the transport, the start bus.
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  The Southern Teton Area Rapid Transit.
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  Why is this so important? $3 a ride and crucially, it
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  completely bypasses that commute choke point we talked about.
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  It has its own dedicated lane and some of the worst spots, so
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  it just sails past all the stop traffic.
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  For the minimalist, the start bus is the only way to do it.
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  OK, so that sounds tough, but possible.
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  Now let's move up to the mid range enthusiast.
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  This is, you know, the dentist from Chicago.
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  This is where most serious ski tourists are going to fall.
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  For this band, your daily burn rate is $700.00 a person plus.
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  Easily 700 a day per person. Accommodation like a standard
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  hotel in town, maybe the Antler Inn, that's going to be 350 to
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  $500 a night for just a basic room, and that's if you book way
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  in advance. That's already steep, but it's
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  the on mountain cost that really get you right.
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  Food is where the budget just hemorrhages money.
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  We budgeted about $120.00 a day per person for food.
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  And that assumes you're having a casual lunch and one decent sit
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  down dinner. But here's the detail that just
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  blew my mind. The burger.
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  The $35 burger. 35 bucks for a hamburger and fries at one of
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  the on mountain lodges, not including a drink.
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  Or if you want something quicker, a single slice of pizza
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  at the base cafeteria is $9. $9 for a slice of pizza.
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  The financial pressure is constant.
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  Even if you have a good budget, you're always feeling.
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  It and transport. They're probably renting an SUV.
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  Right, A rental car with four wheel drive in the winter?
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  That's 100 bucks a day minimum, plus the $40 a day for resort
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  parking. So you're already well past
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  $700.00 before you've even bought a beer or your Lyft
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  ticket. OK.
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  And finally, the luxury band, the hedge fund manager, the
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  audience that Jackson is increasingly built for.
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  Here the spending just enters a different reality.
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  Accommodation starts at $2000 a night.
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  Places like The Four Seasons, the Amangani True Ski and Ski
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  Out Lottery. And the spending shifts from
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  needs to access. Exactly.
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  It's all about maximizing efficiency and quality.
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  A private guide is $1200 a day. You want instant untracked
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  powder? Healey skiing is $1800 a day.
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  Dinner for two at the Snake River Grill is $300 before wine.
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  For this person, the cost is almost irrelevant.
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  So that brings us back to the big question.
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  With this insane cost structure, what is the value equation?
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  Is it ever worth it? I think we have to be really
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  clear here. The value is only there for the
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  strong expert skier. Period.
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  OK. Explain that.
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  If you are paying for Lyft accessed, world class, steep
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  demanding terrain, if you're using that tram all day and
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  you're benefiting from that incredibly complex and expensive
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  avalanche control program the resort runs, then yes, the money
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  is buying you something unique that very few places on earth
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  can offer. But if you're a beginner, or
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  even a solid intermediate who sticks to the blue, run.
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  You are, and we said it before. You were paying Ferrari prices
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  to drive a Honda Civic. You're paying for features and
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  access you cannot and should not use.
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  Your money is so much better spent at a dozen other resorts.
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  And there's one last tricky point on cost the Backcountry
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  cost paradox. Right.
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  A lot of people, especially in that minimalist band, think I'll
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  save money. I'll just go ski in the National
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  Park. It's free.
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  Sounds logical. No $200 lift ticket.
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  But the sources show this is the most expensive free skiing on
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  the planet. The upfront investment in safety
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  gear is non negotiable. A beacon, shovel, probe, proper
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  touring skis and bindings, skins and an airbag pack.
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  You're looking at $3000 minimum before you even start.
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  Can you just quickly define what a beacon, shovel, and probe are
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  for anyone who doesn't know? Absolutely.
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  The beacon is an electronic transceiver.
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  If you get buried in avalanche, it transmits a signal so your
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  partners can find you. The probe is a long collapsible
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  pole you use to physically pinpoint the person under the
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  snow and the shovels for digging them out.
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  You need all three, and you need to know how to use them fast.
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  And the cost doesn't even stop with the gear.
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  Not at all. Yeah, because knowledge is the
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  most important piece of gear. So we strongly recommend you
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  hire a guide. A certified guide is 6 to $800 a
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  day. So suddenly your free day of
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  skiing cost you 700 bucks on top of your $3000 in gear.
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  It's a true paradox. That lays out the financial
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  reality perfectly. OK, so we know the cost, we know
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  the terrain, we know the commute is a nightmare.
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  Let's pivot now and get really practical.
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  Let's talk about the specific traps that ruin trips and more
• 19:02
  importantly, how to fix them. Let's move from the problem to
• 19:06
  the solution. I've got three huge logistical
• 19:09
  pitfalls that just trip people up constantly no matter their
• 19:12
  budget. All right, let's start with
• 19:14
  pitfall #1 the commute decision. This goes right back to that
• 19:17
  town versus village problem. This is the classic mistake the
• 19:20
  mid range person makes. They book a hotel in the town of
• 19:23
  Jackson because it looks a little cheaper and the nightlife
• 19:26
  seems better. They figure no problem, we'll
• 19:29
  just drive our rental car to the resort every morning.
• 19:32
  And the pitfall is that single Rd. that bottleneck, especially
• 19:35
  on a powder day between 8:30 and 9:30 in the morning, it becomes
• 19:38
  a total parking lot. And it gets worse because the
• 19:42
  paid parking lots at the resort, the ones that cost 40 bucks,
• 19:45
  they fill up. They are completely full by 9:00
• 19:47
  AM, so you can sit in traffic for 45 minutes.
• 19:51
  Finally get to the resort and find there's literally nowhere
• 19:54
  to park your car. You've just wasted the most
• 19:56
  expensive hour of your vacation. What's the fix?
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  What's the strategy? You have two choices, and you
• 20:02
  have to commit to one. Option A, If you stay in town,
• 20:05
  you must use the start bus. It's cheap, it's efficient, and
• 20:09
  it sails past the traffic in its own lane.
• 20:12
  Option B is simpler, just pay the premium and stay in Teton
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  Village if skiing is your priority.
• 20:18
  The extra cost for lodging is your insurance policy against
• 20:21
  lost time. OK, pitfall #2 the altitude
• 20:24
  hangover. This gets everyone.
• 20:26
  People really underestimate the Physiology of it.
• 20:29
  The base of the resort is over 6000 feet, the top is over
• 20:32
  10,000. That's a huge change if you're
• 20:34
  coming from sea level. And the pitfall is you arrive,
• 20:38
  you feel fine, you're excited, you go out to the $1,000,000
• 20:41
  Cowboy Bar, hop on a saddle bar stool and have 3 celebratory
• 20:45
  beers. And at that altitude, those 3
• 20:48
  beers have the effect of six or more.
• 20:51
  The next morning you wake up with a splitting headache,
• 20:53
  you're nauseous, and you've just completely wasted your $230 lift
• 20:57
  ticket because you can't get out of bed.
• 20:58
  So what's the strategy to avoid that?
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  It's simple but non negotiable. Maximum one drink your first
• 21:04
  night 1. The real key is hydration.
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  You need to drink a gallon of water a day, not just a few
• 21:10
  glasses, and prioritize sleep over partying for the first 48
• 21:15
  hours. Let your body acclimatize.
• 21:17
  OK, and pitfall #3 the flight maximizer trap?
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  This is the person who tries to squeeze every last possible
• 21:23
  minute of skiing out of their trip.
• 21:25
  The pitfall is booking the very last flight out on a Sunday
• 21:28
  night. Because, as you said, the
• 21:29
  Jackson airport is notorious for weather closures.
• 21:32
  Exactly. A storm rolls in Sunday
• 21:34
  afternoon, the airport shuts down, and now you're stranded.
• 21:38
  You're scrambling for a $400.00 a night hotel room you didn't
• 21:41
  budget for, and you're missing work on Monday morning.
• 21:44
  It's a painful hidden cost. So the strategy is.
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  Be conservative, book a morning fly out or if you absolutely
• 21:52
  have to ski that last day, have a real backup plan.
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  The best one is to be prepared to rent a car and drive 5 hours
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  to Salt Lake City. SLC is a major hub, much more
• 22:03
  reliable, and often the only way out when a big storm hits the
• 22:06
  region. Exactly.
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  Don't pay to fly the wrong tool across the country.
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  The fix is to rent a good pair of high performance demo skis
• 22:15
  from a shop at the base. You'll pay a bit more, but
• 22:18
  you'll have the right ski for the day's conditions and it will
• 22:20
  completely change your experience.
• 22:22
  And one final logistical point, Connectivity, cell service.
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  It's surprisingly decent in the town and in the village, but the
• 22:30
  second you leave those developed areas, the second you head into
• 22:33
  the Backcountry or even just drive over Teton Pass, your
• 22:36
  signal is gone completely. The strategy then, has to be
• 22:39
  planning ahead. You have to download offline
• 22:42
  maps, use Google Maps or even better a Backcountry specific
• 22:45
  app like on X Download the maps for the entire area onto your
• 22:49
  phone before you leave your hotel's Wi-Fi.
• 22:52
  Your safety could literally depend on it.
• 22:54
  OK, that covers the practicalities.
• 22:56
  Now we need to shift gears and get very serious.
• 22:58
  We have to talk about safety. This is not to scare anyone, but
• 23:01
  it's about respecting the power of this place.
• 23:04
  This is the most critical part of the entire deep dive.
• 23:07
  The sources are clear. Teeton County has very high
• 23:10
  search and rescue numbers, and that's because this extreme,
• 23:13
  uncontrolled wilderness is right next door to the resort.
• 23:17
  It's too easy to get into trouble.
• 23:19
  Let's start with risk #1 the Backcountry.
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  This is life and death, and it happens almost every season.
• 23:25
  You cross a resort boundary gate into an area like Granite Canyon
• 23:29
  or Cody Bowl. And you are in a completely
• 23:32
  different world. As we said, there is no ski
• 23:35
  patrol, no monitoring and 0 avalanche control.
• 23:38
  And what's the psychological trap people fall into?
• 23:41
  They look out of bounds and they see beautiful untracked.
• 23:44
  Powder. And they see tracks, they see
• 23:46
  that someone else has already gone there and they think, Oh
• 23:48
  well, it must be safe. That is a potentially fatal
• 23:50
  mistake. It is because you have no idea
• 23:53
  who made those tracks. It could have been a
• 23:55
  professional guide with 20 years of experience in a satellite
• 23:58
  phone, or it could have been someone who is now lost, or
• 24:01
  someone who just got incredibly lucky.
• 24:04
  Following random tracks into the wilderness is a recipe for
• 24:07
  disaster. So what is the absolute
• 24:09
  mandatory protocol for going out of bounds?
• 24:12
  There are five things and you need all 5A working beacon, a
• 24:16
  shovel and a probe, A trained partner, and most importantly
• 24:21
  the knowledge of how to use it all.
• 24:22
  You have to know how to read an avalanche forecast.
• 24:25
  My strongest recommendation is this.
• 24:28
  If you want to speed the Backcountry, hire a guide even
• 24:31
  just for one day. The education you get from a pro
• 24:34
  from a place like X Mountain Guides is priceless.
• 24:37
  OK, risk #2 this is a very specific one for deep snow
• 24:41
  areas, tree wells. A tree well is a hidden void of
• 24:44
  deep, unconsolidated snow that forms around the base of a tree.
• 24:48
  The branches of the tree act like an umbrella and prevent the
• 24:51
  snow from packing down near the trunk.
• 24:52
  And the danger is falling into one head first.
• 24:54
  Exactly. If you're skiing in the trees
• 24:56
  and you fall, you can get trapped upside down in this
• 24:58
  deep, soft snow. You can't get out and you can
• 25:01
  suffocate very quickly. It's a silent, terrifying
• 25:04
  danger. The protocol has to be absolute
• 25:06
  then. Never ever ski the trees alone.
• 25:09
  You must maintain visual contact with your partner at all times,
• 25:12
  not just shouting to them. You need to see them.
• 25:14
  OK. And a technical tip for that?
• 25:16
  Always keep your partner in view below you.
• 25:18
  Ski one at a time from one safe spot to another.
• 25:21
  If they fall in a well, it's much easier for you to get to
• 25:24
  them and dig them out if you are uphill from them.
• 25:27
  Risk #3 is the cold itself frostbite?
• 25:30
  The protocol here is just about having the right gear and being
• 25:34
  vigilant. Going to say it, Invest in
• 25:37
  heated socks. I know they cost $200.00 but
• 25:41
  they are worth every single penny.
• 25:43
  And you have to make sure there is absolutely no exposed skin.
• 25:46
  A good balaclava is not optional, it's mandatory,
• 25:49
  especially on the windy chair lifts.
• 25:51
  And a final point on just the environmental comfort.
• 25:53
  The air is so dry. It is incredibly dry, causes
• 25:56
  nosebleeds, sore throats, it's just uncomfortable.
• 25:59
  The strategy. A simple one is to bring a small
• 26:01
  portable humidifier for your hotel room.
• 26:04
  If you can't do that, just run a hot shower for 10 minutes before
• 26:07
  you go to bed and steam up the room.
• 26:08
  It makes a huge difference in how you sleep and feel the next
• 26:11
  day. As far as human risk, though,
• 26:13
  crime is incredibly low. You're very safe in Jackson.
• 26:16
  Right, the only thing getting robbed is your wallet at the
• 26:19
  grocery store. The only real scam is just how
• 26:21
  expensive everything is because it all has to be trucked into
• 26:24
  this remote valley. OK.
• 26:26
  That covers the hard stuff, the logistics, the safety.
• 26:29
  Now we get to the fun part, the actual human experience.
• 26:33
  Let's talk about the peak moments and the biggest
• 26:36
  disappointments. I'll start with my peak human
• 26:38
  experience. For me, it was something that
• 26:40
  perfectly captures that mix of terror and reward we've been
• 26:43
  talking about. It's Corbett's waffles, ah.
• 26:46
  Yes, the cabin. It's a tree ritual.
• 26:49
  Describe the scene up there. So you take the tram all the way
• 26:51
  to the top, 10,450 feet, and there's this tiny little shack
• 26:55
  up there, Corbett's cabin, and inside they make these
• 26:58
  incredible hot fresh waffles. With the brown sugar butter.
• 27:02
  With the brown sugar, butter or Nutella and you take the simple,
• 27:06
  perfect, delicious thing and you stand out on the deck to eat it.
• 27:10
  And you were standing right at the entrance to Corbett's
• 27:13
  cooler. So you're watching people drop
• 27:15
  in? You're watching these incredibly
• 27:18
  skilled, incredibly brave skiers and snowboarders literally jump
• 27:22
  off a cornice into this terrifyingly narrow shoot.
• 27:25
  And that synthesis of feelings, The terror of watching them, The
• 27:30
  delicious comfort of the hot waffle in your hand, the howling
• 27:33
  wind, that, for me, is the peak Jackson Hole experience.
• 27:37
  It's pure awe. That's a perfect encapsulation
• 27:40
  of the mountains energy. My best moment is about finding
• 27:43
  that old Jackson vibe we said was disappearing.
• 27:46
  It's a press key at the Mangy Moose.
• 27:48
  An absolute legend, one of the last holdouts of that gritty
• 27:51
  charm. It's right at the base in Teton
• 27:53
  Village, and it is the great equalizer.
• 27:56
  There's loud, amazing live music, there are huge pictures
• 27:59
  of relatively cheap beer, and they serve nachos that are the
• 28:02
  size of a car's hubcap. And it has a very specific
• 28:04
  smell. It smells like wet wool and
• 28:06
  spilled beer, and it's the one place where you will genuinely
• 28:09
  see a billionaire still in his $900 shell high fiving a local
• 28:14
  ski bum who probably sleeps in his truck and they're both just
• 28:16
  stoked about the day they had. It captures that old soul of
• 28:19
  Jackson perfectly. OK, let's talk disappointments
• 28:22
  because it's not all perfect. My low point was the town square
• 28:25
  shopping. I can see that that's where that
• 28:27
  Manhattan and Moon Boots vibe is strongest.
• 28:30
  It just felt soulless. It's a theme park of luxury.
• 28:34
  Endless generic high end clothing brands, art galleries
• 28:39
  selling $50,000 bronze statues of bears and boutiques that all
• 28:43
  feel exactly the same. I was looking for grit for
• 28:47
  history and I just found a very expensive outdoor mall that felt
• 28:50
  disconnected from the incredible mountain right behind.
• 28:52
  It my low point connects back to the terrain problem, we
• 28:55
  discussed the terrain bottleneck.
• 28:57
  Right, because everyone funnels onto the few blue runs to get
• 28:59
  down. Everyone.
• 29:01
  And the worst offender is a run called Groventra.
• 29:04
  At 3:30 in the afternoon, when the lifts are closing, that run
• 29:07
  becomes an absolute war zone. Describe the chaos.
• 29:10
  You have beginners who are completely exhausted and out of
• 29:13
  control, just sliding down sideways, and mixed in with them
• 29:17
  are frustrated experts who are bombing past them at 50 miles an
• 29:21
  hour trying to get to the base. It's this chaotic mix of speed
• 29:25
  and exhaustion, and it's genuinely dangerous and
• 29:28
  incredibly stressful. It just sucks all the joy out of
• 29:30
  the end of your day. That really highlights the core
• 29:33
  conflict, doesn't it? You get this world class,
• 29:35
  uncrowded terrain at the top, but the infrastructure can't
• 29:38
  handle the crowds on the way down.
• 29:40
  You're paying a premium for solitude up high and getting
• 29:44
  congestion down low. Exactly.
• 29:46
  And if all of that, the cost, the crowds, the intensity sounds
• 29:49
  like too much, we need to give you some smart alternatives.
• 29:53
  The Jackson experience isn't for everyone.
• 29:56
  Let's start with alternative #1 Grand Targhee, the
• 29:59
  counterculture choice. So Targhee is on the other side
• 30:02
  of the Niton Range. It's technically in Wyoming, but
• 30:04
  you access it through Driggs Idaho.
• 30:06
  It is the geographic and cultural opposite of Jackson.
• 30:09
  So why would a serious skier go there instead?
• 30:12
  It has some huge upsides. First, because of its location
• 30:15
  of the western wetter side of the mountains, it statistically
• 30:19
  gets more snow than Jackson Hole, Often a lot more.
• 30:22
  More snow. And the whole vibe is different.
• 30:24
  It's wider, the terrain is more forgiving, it's way friendlier,
• 30:27
  and it's significantly cheaper across the board.
• 30:29
  Lodging, food, tickets. It has a real unpretentious 1990
• 30:34
  ski vibe. For a pure powderhound who hates
• 30:37
  crowds, it's arguably better. What's the trade off?
• 30:40
  There's always a catch. The trade off is access and
• 30:43
  extremity. It's much harder to get to.
• 30:45
  The drive from Jackson involves going over Teton Pass, which is
• 30:49
  a treacherous Rd. That closes frequently, and
• 30:51
  while the snow is amazing, it just doesn't have that
• 30:53
  terrifying expert only steepness or the massive vertical drop the
• 30:58
  JHMR has. OK alternative #2 Big Sky Mt.
• 31:02
  Big Sky is just massive. Its main advantage is its sheer
• 31:05
  size. It spreads the crowds out so
• 31:07
  much more effectively than Jackson can.
• 31:09
  If you want that big mountain feel with huge vertical but
• 31:12
  without the bottlenecks, Big Sky is a great option.
• 31:15
  And the trade off there. It's also very expensive, right
• 31:17
  up there with Jackson, but the logistics getting from your
• 31:20
  lodging to the lifts can be a lot simpler if you stay in their
• 31:24
  main mountain village. It's just a bit more user
• 31:26
  friendly. So let's put all this together.
• 31:29
  Let's create the perfect value optimized one week trip that
• 31:33
  combines the best of both worlds.
• 31:35
  This is the recommended combo itinerary.
• 31:38
  This is how you get the most bang for your buck and the best
• 31:40
  experience. OK, so days one through 3, you
• 31:43
  ski Jackson Hole. You focus on the tram, you ski
• 31:46
  the steep stuff, you soak in that high energy vibe.
• 31:48
  You go to the moose. Then day 4 is your travel day.
• 31:52
  You check out of your expensive Jackson hotel and you drive over
• 31:55
  Teton Pass, weather permitting, to Driggs, ID.
• 31:58
  And then for the rest of the week, days 5 through 7, you ski
• 32:01
  Grand Targhee and you stay in Driggs.
• 32:03
  Exactly. And as one move has a huge
• 32:06
  financial impact, by shifting your base to the Idaho side for
• 32:09
  the second-half of the trip, you will save roughly 50% on your
• 32:13
  food and lodging costs. Plus you get a completely
• 32:16
  different, more local, more relaxed powder skiing
• 32:19
  experience. It's brilliant.
• 32:21
  You get the bucket list intensity of Jackson, the deep
• 32:24
  powder of Targhee, and you do it in a way that's actually cost
• 32:27
  effective. OK, so this is the moment of
• 32:29
  truth. Let's bring it all together in
• 32:31
  the Worth It Matrix. We're going to give you a direct
• 32:34
  verdict based on who you are. Let's start with the minimalist
• 32:38
  traveler, the backpacker on a tight budget.
• 32:41
  Verdict No, It's a hard no. Why?
• 32:45
  Jackson is actively hostile to your budget.
• 32:47
  You will bleed cash just trying to exist.
• 32:50
  The sacrifices you'll have to make will make the trip
• 32:52
  miserable. The cost to fund ratio is just
• 32:54
  way off. Go to Salt Lake City or Bozeman
• 32:56
  instead. You can access incredible steep
• 32:58
  skiing there for a fraction of the price.
• 33:00
  OK, Next up, the mid range enthusiast, a strong skier, good
• 33:04
  budget, but not unlimited. Verdict.
• 33:07
  Maybe it's situational. Why?
• 33:09
  It is only worth it if you are a very strong, aggressive expert
• 33:13
  level spear who will actually use the terrain you're paying
• 33:16
  for. If you're going to spend most of
• 33:17
  your time on blue runs, that money is completely wasted.
• 33:20
  Go to Park City or Breckenridge where your money goes further on
• 33:23
  the train you actually enjoy. The family trip Parents with
• 33:26
  kids need ski school need easy logistic.
• 33:30
  Verdict. Hard pass.
• 33:32
  An absolute no. Why?
• 33:34
  The logistics are a nightmare. Getting kids and all their gear
• 33:37
  on the bus is awful. The ski school costs a fortune.
• 33:40
  The terrain is way too intimidating for most kids.
• 33:43
  It is just too much work for the parents.
• 33:45
  It won't feel like a vacation. There are so many better family
• 33:48
  resorts. And finally, the luxury traveler
• 33:51
  for whom budget is not a primary concern.
• 33:54
  Verdict Yes, whenever is it yes. Why?
• 33:56
  The entire valley is now built for you if you can afford The
• 33:59
  Four Seasons private guides and Healey skiing.
• 34:02
  It is without a doubt the single best and most rewarding ski
• 34:05
  experience in North America. So the overall conclusion is
• 34:08
  Jackson Hole is a bucket list trip.
• 34:10
  It's not an every year trip. It is raw, it is beautiful and
• 34:13
  the sources were right. It's arrogant.
• 34:15
  It does not care if you can afford it or not.
• 34:17
  And a final practical tip, the best time to go is the first
• 34:20
  week of March. Avoid the big holidays in early
• 34:23
  March. The snow base is super deep, the
• 34:25
  days are longer and the temperatures are a little
• 34:27
  warmer. It's the sweet spot.
• 34:30
  And that base camp decision is critical.
• 34:32
  Stay in Teton Village if scheme is your only priority.
• 34:35
  Stay in the town of Jackson if nightlife is your priority.
• 34:38
  But do not try to commute between them every day.
• 34:40
  You will regret it. So to bring it all home, we
• 34:43
  talked about this tension between the raw power of the
• 34:45
  mountain and the new luxury world built around it.
• 34:48
  The source is called Jackson. Raw, beautiful, and arrogant.
• 34:53
  I think that's right. But the mountain itself, it
• 34:55
  demands something from you, and it doesn't care how much money
• 34:57
  you have. It demands your humility.
• 34:59
  It demands your respect for the cold, for the weather, for the
• 35:01
  danger. And that humility, that's the
• 35:04
  most valuable currency you'll spend there.
• 35:06
  And if you offer it, the reward you get back from that mountain
• 35:09
  is truly unmatched anywhere on earth.
• 35:12
  That is the deep dive on Jackson Hole.
• 35:14
  Travel safe, stay hydrated and think fat skis.