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Episode 21: Black Magic: How Elite Bulls Vet, Lead, and Please · The Bull Brotherhood

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Even the small things like making a woman squirt,
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and he probably never made her squirt. And it's
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like, wow, this energy shifted fast. It's like
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-minded explorers, we see you. Let's go. Good
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evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to
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another exhilarating episode of the Bull Brotherhood
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Podcast. I'm the one and only Sigma male, Brian
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Morgan, coming at you. One third of the podcast
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team and family, along with the beautiful and
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lovely Siren. What's going on, beautiful? Hello.
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Oh, that was good. And also the professional
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student himself. Yeah, he didn't damn wait, but
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that's okay. I'm introduced anyway, ladies and
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gentlemen. The one and only Socrates. Hi, y 'all.
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He's eager tonight. He's excited. It's been a
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good day. Good, good. And ladies and gentlemen,
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coming at us tonight from Houston, Texas, it's
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a brother who, although I do not know very well
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at all, Socrates and Siren, they have put, they
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have actually vetted this man. Okay. And I'm
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anxious to hear what he has to say about his
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origin in the boy lifestyle. Again, coming at
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us from Houston, Texas, I give you the one and
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only Black Magic. What's up, big dog? Hey, what's
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really going on out there today? All right, all
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right. Love that Southern swag right there, that
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Southern twang, you know? Me being from North
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Carolina, we got the same thing. Oh, yeah. Oh,
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yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, look, ladies
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and gentlemen, I'm going to turn the mic over
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to my dog, Socrates, who's going to lead this
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interview tonight here along with Siren. I will
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chime in here and there. But no further ado,
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Socrates and Siren, take it away. Yes, sir. Thank
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you, man. Them intros, boy. We might have to
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start charging people to do it. You want actually
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a bomb -ass intro, you hit us up. I feel like
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we needed to say, welcome to the stage, Black
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Magic. Oh, yeah. I like that one a lot better.
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I need to hear some genuine when you come out.
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yeah they'll say that i was watching one of his
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videos not too long ago and they was giving him
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hell they were like this is not the gene wine
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i know yeah oh yeah i saw that one yeah so we
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just we want to get right into it man we were
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at i think siren you have you met him before
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this last party right Yeah, this party was my
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third time interacting with him. Yeah, okay.
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Five stars every time. Yeah, yeah. I already
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heard the stories. Only three times? Oh, no,
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four, four. Yeah, that one time. No, I remember
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now. I remember now. So Houston, Splash. Then
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the next Houston splash. Then Houston, my birthday
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weekend. When you came and got me, we went to
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that one party. And then this last weekend for
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the other birthday party. So, yeah, four times.
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Okay. Can you leave a little, you know, keep
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them in suspense. They want to know, you know,
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you giving it away. No, I'm not. Anyway. On my
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end, y 'all, I'm going to be honest with you.
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I don't keep up with, like, who's doing what.
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And, you know, we'll sit down and say, what's
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your favorite, this and that. I don't really
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keep up. So I went down there this last time.
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It was my first time going to, like, a private
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event in Houston. Siren loves it down there,
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you know. It was about to be her second home.
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And I was down there, and I was helping out,
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get the party going, you know. And, you know,
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Mr. Magic comes in and he's helping out. He's
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just like doing whatever he needs to do to help.
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He was being the pool boy. He was being the pool
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boy. But he was just, you know, wherever he needed
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to be helped. I always just started talking.
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And I'm, you know, I'm from the South, too, but
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I grew up in L .A. So, yeah, I end up talking
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to Mr. Magic and I was like. this brother got
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some sense like he i like what he's talking about
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and what caught my eye and let's let's let's
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kick off the first question was how you talked
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about the the playmates that you avoid and so
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without getting into detail you know what got
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you to the stage in your journey and we'll get
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to the beginning of it in a minute but what got
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you to the stage in your journey where you said,
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you know what, I really need to start moving
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from quantity to quality. I really need to start
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being careful with who I end up giving my time
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to and who I play with. That's a good question.
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Actually, it really started when I realized I
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was just, when pleasure becomes work, that's
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how I want to say it. It's like when you're doing
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things for fun and entertainment and then you
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get to the point. and you sit back and think
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it's like man why so much work behind having
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a good time you know it's like when you kind
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of new to it it's like okay you wouldn't go out
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your way and you really not knowing what are
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you doing you doing it but it's like you hear
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to satisfy them you are you all of y 'all have
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been satisfied from it and at first it was just
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a um how could i put it it was just more of a
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selfish behavior on my behalf or you know grief
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and it's like okay i do this i do that and i
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get and i'm all around the place you know and
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thinking i'm accomplishing something when i'm
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not and at the end of the day i'm like man it's
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just too much going here going out it ain't matter
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where i drive hours man it's just what it was
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and it got to a point like nah this more like
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work it's not even like I'm not satisfied from
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the deal, you know. And it's like you're more
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trying to meet other people's demand. And I'm
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not much to supply. I like that. And I started
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realizing, you know, the supply and demand, you
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know. Yeah, I couldn't get what I was being demanded
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of everywhere. You know, I'm one person. I wish
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I could be three people at one time, but, you
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know, it don't work like that. and that's when
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i kind of started realizing like man this is
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not fun like i want it to be so and i got to
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the point of realizing you know it's more about
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quality than just the number amount and even
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my first time going to the place um where i first
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met you it sorry um I want to say the name of
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it. I'm not sure how that works. You can. You
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can say it. Oh, okay. When I first went to Splash
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Mocha, one of the times, well, I saw you at,
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okay, it was like, it was a number game. The
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first time I went, it was like to see how many
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we could, you know, get in a day or two or a
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whole weekend. And then I realized, wow, I was
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one. They were like, man, you have to. pace yourself.
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By Saturday, you will be winded and want to tap
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out. I'm like, ain't no way. But yeah, it happens.
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So the next time, you know, I got a few male
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friends in the game that we kind of talk. You
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know, we do a lot of things together and go out
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and we plot on things on how we're going to go
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about and execute this goal or whatever and see
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who gets the most. But then the second time,
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we're like, nah, we got to do this right, man.
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We got to last the whole race, you know. And,
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yeah, slowly but surely, I caught on. But the
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quality and quantity thing, I've been caught
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on to that. But when it came to that event. It
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was so new to me that I was back on the, you
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know, quantity exchange. And yeah, that's how
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they work. I like that. I like that. I like that.
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And so let's go back to the beginning of Mr.
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Black Magic's journey towards being a quality
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bull. What got you into the lifestyle, you know,
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and tell us a story on what intrigued you about
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it and what got you into it. Well, honestly,
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it was more like I was dating this white woman.
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But before that, I never dated one. You know,
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I was just, you know, strictly on my kind or,
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you know, I would mess with Mexican women or
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whatever. But it got to a point, you know, I
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gave it a shot. I heard all the good things,
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but it was more like, let's really see what this
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is about. And she ought to take me out on a date.
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And I agreed. And I know where I would go. And,
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you know, she took me to this place like abandoned
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building. And we went inside and it was kind
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of like sketchy. It was, you wouldn't know what
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it was until you actually went further inside.
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But just going in, checking in booth, it's just,
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you know, a normal sitting. But it was no name.
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to the building and none of that. So I'm like,
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man, what is this? So once you check in or whatever,
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and then you go inside. Once I went in, that
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said enough right there. First thing I seen was
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like, it was a woman on a stripper pole and it
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was another woman on her knees. eating out so
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it was like wow okay first time seeing this at
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a club but i knew about them but i never been
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i never knew even in houston that it exists i
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thought you got to go out of state out the country
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to see these type of things and it is right in
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my face and i'm like wow and from that point
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on it became a habit and i want to go out i want
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to go here and you know everything that's dealing
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with free sexual freedom You know, I mean, sexual
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freedom. You know, and so it was fun. I stopped
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going to vanilla clubs, you know, where they
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just play music and drink. And I want to do things
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that's more fun where you got more options. That's
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what got me started. And when was that? I wasn't
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even on. What year? Oh, that was like, that was
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2015. Somewhere around there. Yeah. About 10
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years. It's cracking me up because I'm like,
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first time you go out with a white woman and
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she takes you to some sketchy building with no
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name on the door. You're like, what have I gotten
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myself into? Yeah. What's going on here? But
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it was interesting, man. And then it just became,
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I mean, very fun. I forgot. I didn't realize
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what I was missing all this time. Yeah. Man,
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tell me about it. I'm glad I was open -minded
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about it. Yeah, so what were your first thoughts?
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Like, when you first walked in, what were you
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thinking? You know, did you play that night?
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Were you thinking, like, oh, my goodness, is
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this real? You know, were you thinking, oh, my
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goodness, I've been waiting for this? No. You
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know, the whole night I was kind of just like,
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oh, God. You know, I played with her. And it
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was just observing things. I'm more of a voyeur.
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I was right there in the midst of things happening.
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And, you know, as far as this penetration -wise,
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no, I didn't get much going on. She did. I played
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with her. And, you know, I did a little fingering,
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this and that. But as far as me penetrating,
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no, not that day. It was just more trying to
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play the role. You know, you try to be – you
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got everything under control, you know. at all
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don't lose yourself in the situation type and
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that's how they went about but i was anxious
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don't get me wrong i wanted to do a whole lot
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but you know sounds like you were surveying the
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scene though yeah yeah it was your first time
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trying not to appear exactly as i tried not to
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feel thirsty you know yeah yeah yeah and at the
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same time you're saying yourself what the is
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going on you know she's ready for something like
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this um it's exciting it's exhilarating but at
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the same time i don't know you know if this is
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really for me and you know what's going to happen
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etc etc so that's very very smart just to be
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just be cool like that um did you did you go
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back again with her like yeah we want one more
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time yeah we want one more time and it was a
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lot of difference because she was very like bisexual
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so she always knew how to get a crowd of women
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together and okay yes yes very okay good deal
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i'm curious what when you guys left that night
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what was the conversation like on the way back
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home like was she all that interesting was she
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interested in how long you enjoyed or she was
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curious to see what i had to say about it one
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thing i could say She helped me understand as
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far as like non -judgment, not, you know, being
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judgmental and things like that. Understanding
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just what's going on, free spirited. And there's
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a people who don't judge. You know, you come
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into this environment, like people going to do
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what they do. And if you don't like it, don't
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partake in it. Just keep it moving. But I had
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a lot of questions. Yeah, if she was anything
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like my lady who introduced me over in Germany,
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she said that she saw something in me. And she
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knew that maybe not the first time when we went
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or the second, but there was something in me
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that was going to be able to adapt to that particular
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lifestyle and go from there. You know what I'm
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saying? So that's probably what she saw that
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in you, you know, when you guys first met and
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you talked. Yeah. i think she did a good job
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and she felt good that she was kind of like grooming
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me in a situation like that there you go there
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you go what i learned we like to go around with
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new candy you know and like in a lifestyle women
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like to you know meet guys and bring something
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new to the table to show up with their friends
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it was a guy or a comedian patrice o 'neill not
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sure if y 'all know yeah yeah but he made a statement
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one time like how i mean like the fish is like
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going fishing like you catch a few fish show
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them to your friends and throw them back in the
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water you know you say there's always a fish
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that want to stay in the boat exactly we love
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the hunt okay different game i can i need a different
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game every damn time you know what i'm saying
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exactly the same meal ain't gonna digest right
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You know what I'm talking about, right? Exactly,
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man. We need different media. Yeah. And I think
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that's what she was doing with me. Grooming me,
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showing me around. Oh, you can look for Kate
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Tess type of situation. Yeah. Unless she approve
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of it. You know, I'm just going along with the
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flow of things, not knowing how this works. Yeah.
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So when did she really unleash you? When did
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she know that she had a true bull here and she
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just, y 'all went somewhere and she just unleashed
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your ass? Nah, we just got cool from that. Like,
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she realized I can't be tame like that, you know,
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at all. Yeah, we just got cool and, you know,
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I started doing my thing and she was doing her
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thing because she stayed in another city. So
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that was another thing. Like, she was like an
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hour and a half away from where I resided. Yeah,
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that's how that worked. But she was cool. I see
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her around and everything. We still stayed in
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touch for like, what, a year and a half? Okay.
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But I always give her props, man. You know, she
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the one that got me into it. Excellent. Excellent.
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Yeah. I like that. And, you know, we're going
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to talk about handlers and people grooming. I
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think that everybody I've heard had that beginning.
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Just turns out. A quality bull. So let's get
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into that. So when did you start playing with
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couples? Really not too long after that, but
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it wasn't like strictly couples. It was just
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dibbling and dabbling here and there. Because
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I was on apps like Kick, things like Dead, Cassidy,
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some of those type of apps. And I would meet
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people on there. And it's groups you join, kind
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of like Telegram, things like that. You're in
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groups. And I used to travel a lot, you know,
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for work, which I do still. But for work, I travel
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a lot. And I join groups that's in the area,
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you know. And I see, you know, posts, people
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posting. I reach out. And first, it wasn't all
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about chemistry with me. It was all about fucking,
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you know, straight to the point. And then that's
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how I work. When I was out of town, I meet couples.
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And then I come in and meet a few couples, this
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and that. But at the time, I didn't have, what
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you want to say, I didn't have, like, a strategy.
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it was just okay i get the it's white cool you
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know uh just like that and a lot of them didn't
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even care to get to know you it was just hey
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you want to meet up here at this room you know
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it was later where i started meeting up at bars
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uh going you know public places to get to know
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each other you know going on multiple days before
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we even get to the sexual part of it and so yeah
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That's how I started, but it was a slow start
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to that point. At first, it would just fucking
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go. You'd probably see them next week and don't
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even know who they are. I want to talk about
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the multiple dates to get to know someone before
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you even play. And the reason why is because
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you struck me at the quality of experience that
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you give some of your couples that we talked
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about. And so... Lean in more into that. I really
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enjoyed you speaking about how well you take
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care of your couples and your philosophy about
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that. So dig into that. How does the whole dating
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process work for you now? Honestly, now it's
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a whole lot different from just from my experience
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in the situation. It's like, man, okay, I still
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have, you know. the wham bam thank you ma 'am
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moments but it's rare like it's like from my
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experience i got a good judgment of character
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now when observing people when communicate whether
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it be a text what is online or whether it's through
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phone conversation person it's like i get a feel
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of the situation and can tell you know the chemistry
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take control of itself and it's all you know
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it instantly like these good people I can you
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know um and they they feel it too it's like okay
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cool he seemed like you're pretty good I like
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the way he you know conversate I like the way
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he messaged you know it's all about staying in
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tune and actually not appearing as somebody who's
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just in it for one thing you know it's all about
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developing friendship connections you know looking
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at people as actual people you know what i'm
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saying because we're all important so um it's
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just when you meet people you go out here you
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go out there and it's like when they see you
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around other people who like you and take a like
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and they wonder what that is that they like about
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you and it's easier that way for people to judge
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your character or you know get a good sense that
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just a good person or whatever When they see
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people they're cool with, cool with you, it's
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like it just works. And it might be even better
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with these new people you meet than it is with
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the people you've been knowing. It's just, I
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can't even explain it. It just happened like
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that, man. And I meet up, you know, go on a date
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here and there. You got different couples with
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different dynamics. So it's like. my wife like
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this uh because i want to know about it i want
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to talk to the husband first i always greet the
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husband in situations that's why a lot of times
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i feel like i have a lot of success at it because
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i don't just walk up to the woman and you know
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if i see it with a guy i need to know who he
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is you know uh sometimes he's just a friend but
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in a lot of cases it's the husband that's how
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i look at it you know and i'll approach him how
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you doing i'm such a such and um And we go from
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now. And I might not even say much after I speak
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to her, you know, to her at all. It's all about
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what me and him can, you know, accomplish in
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a small amount of time. And that'll let me know
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how interested they are and where they stand.
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And it works a lot. It works, man. I ain't gonna
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lie. It's like a 90 -something percent chance
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that it's gonna go well. Lift you. Yes, sir.
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Hey. Oh. Lift you. Yes, sir. What did that sound
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like right there? Everything you just said. What,
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huh? You know, God damn well I was going to come
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in and say that. That's the question. What type
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of male did that sound like? Who do you know
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who just, God damn, I can't even get it out.
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Is that not a Sigma or what? Sigma. Yep. Sigma
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male. You say Sigma? Yes, sir. Yeah, Sigma, most
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definitely. Sigma male. Sigma male, that's it.
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That's a Sigma male. God damn, boy. A lot of
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people run around, say they alpha this, alpha
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that. No, I'm Sigma. 100. Preach. Preach, preach,
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preach. You have just been vetted on the Bull
25:31
Brothers podcast. Welcome to the Sigma male.
25:35
You're official now, bro. I appreciate that.
25:40
God damn, boy, you just broke that shit down.
25:42
You just broke it down. I'm sitting this way.
25:46
God damn, I'm fat. Shit. It works like that,
25:52
man. I want a little bit of credit for knowing
25:53
how to pick them. You picked. You damn sure picked.
26:00
You damn sure picked. He is vetted. He is vetted
26:05
right here. Yeah. At 8, 12 Eastern time. Eastern
26:10
Standard Time. Now we got to get you a t -shirt,
26:15
man. Now we got to get you the t -shirt. Oh,
26:17
yeah. Gotta get one. Gotta get one. You know,
26:22
I'll be seeing y 'all real soon. Yep. Yep. Oh,
26:24
man. Splashes around the corner. Yeah. Damn,
26:29
we broke that shit down. That was beautiful.
26:31
Beautiful. I have nothing to fucking say. You
26:36
just damn said it. You just said it. Man, I enjoy
26:41
being around, you know, couples, man. It's like,
26:43
it's less stress when you're dealing with couples
26:48
that know what they're doing in this and know,
26:50
you know, know what they want from it and understand
26:53
everything around it. You have some, don't get
26:57
me wrong. The new ones kind of be hard. I like,
27:00
I like, What I like, newbies, don't get me wrong,
27:05
because, you know, we all been up before. But
27:07
I like dealing with a man to an extent. The young
27:11
newbies, they kind of hard because they don't
27:13
know what they want for each other. It's like
27:16
it's a push and pull game. It's like, OK, I want
27:20
this, but I don't want to see him or vice versa
27:24
the other way around. Like, I don't know. It's
27:26
like. I don't see any way women feel like she's
27:30
the only one supposed to be involved and he needs
27:33
to stay out of the way or it's like when it's
27:37
time for him to get his pleasure with a woman,
27:39
it's like, no, no deal. You know, some of them
27:42
agree to it. That's what they like and that's
27:43
what it is. I just look at it and, you know,
27:45
I don't really judge it. That's how they make
27:47
it. It's cool. But I done seen some, like, when
27:51
I'm playing with the wife and the guy just flip
27:54
out. Not like... on me or make a scene but i
27:58
can tell by his body language that he's you know
28:00
very upset and he does things to stop the moment
28:04
when she really enjoying the moment and he wasn't
28:08
expecting this or even the small things like
28:10
making a woman squirt and he probably never made
28:13
a squirt and it's like wow this this energy shifted
28:18
fast. It's like this whole thing that took a
28:21
turn. And sometimes women can say things and
28:24
piss them off, you know, piss the husband off
28:25
or whatever. Like, why you can't make me do this?
28:28
Or it's just, man, this crazy moment. And see,
28:33
ladies and gentlemen, this is also a gentleman
28:37
because here's one thing he hasn't said. We've
28:39
been on this. We're recording for almost half
28:41
an hour now. He will not tell you, and I'm surprised
28:45
that Siren didn't mention this. Well, not yet.
28:48
I'm waiting for the moment. But the moment's
28:50
here. The motherfucker has a kickstand. I want
28:53
to tell the story. The motherfucker has a kickstand.
28:55
I want to tell the story. And he's gentlemanly
28:58
enough not to include that into the point where
29:02
the women are talking some crazy shit to their
29:05
husband. And he's not going to tell you that
29:08
including my game and my approach and my signal
29:12
illness and I know how to carry myself and I
29:15
got him smooth. I have a bazooka down there.
29:18
He is gentleman enough not to say that. Yeah,
29:22
well, I was waiting. You know me. I like to tell
29:24
a story when I introduce the gentleman's dick.
29:28
Right. So the first time in Houston, I think.
29:32
I can't remember if it was our first time to
29:33
Houston or our second. I can't remember. Um,
29:36
but we played on like the Sunday and you know,
29:42
he came up or whatever. And I was like, all right.
29:45
And, and he took off his shorts and I turned
29:48
around and I said, did you have to buy a wristband
29:51
for him too? Because I was just like staying.
29:57
I was like, I was like, I don't know how this
30:02
is going to work. But it was great. And we have
30:05
a good video of it, too. You figured out how
30:09
it was going to work, didn't you? I did. It was
30:11
great. And also, I want to point out one thing
30:14
you said. Oh, just like a small thing, like making
30:16
a woman squirt. Well, there's a lot of women
30:19
that have never done it. I was damn near a month
30:24
shy of 40 years old when I finally really squirted
30:28
when Socrates and I got together. So, you know,
30:31
some women like go their whole lives, you know,
30:34
and I just thought I couldn't. I just was like,
30:36
well, I'm not a squirter. Yeah, I'm a squirter.
30:39
What are you talking about squirting? A lot of
30:43
women have never had a damn orgasm. Yeah. Whether
30:46
vaginal or clitoral. Yeah. Okay. So he's packing,
30:51
as the name says, black magic, all right? No
30:57
doubt. I try to keep the mystery, man. I don't
31:02
know how you don't pass out. As you should, brother.
31:05
When you get an erection, where's the blood for
31:08
the rest of your body? I just don't know. Yeah,
31:12
but they never had. If they've never had that
31:17
type of orgasm, that vaginal orgasm from deep
31:21
penetration, okay, then they're having an out
31:25
-of -body fucking experience and the husband
31:28
has never seen his wife like that, you know?
31:31
And that can fuck a man's psyche up if he's never
31:36
seen her like that before, especially when she
31:37
starts, I call it, going into the twilight zone
31:41
and getting dickomatized. she starts seeing different
31:45
like you said like black magic she starts you
31:49
know getting purple and and and you know the
31:51
body starts she can't control her damn body she
31:54
can't control her yeah it will a man up if he's
31:58
never seen him yeah so keep doing keep doing
32:01
what you're doing brother keep bringing it yeah
32:03
all i can do is do what i can man what i was
32:06
blessed with and you know that's it but a lot
32:10
of it ain't always a fortunate thing i can tell
32:12
you that I've been in some situations where it
32:15
got all the way to the moment it got shut down.
32:18
Like, that's one of the things of not telling
32:21
them, you know, it should be a warning before
32:23
destruction. But sometimes, you know, I try to
32:27
ease my way in that, you know. Literally. Because,
32:32
like, newbies, when they see it, it's like, oh,
32:35
no, this is not going to work, God. i'm like
32:37
you ain't even tried like you would try well
32:40
you know can i can i well i think we talked about
32:43
it on the dick matrix but let me you know just
32:46
kind of share this has been my experience is
32:49
there is certain dicks that are say like 10 inches
32:55
i don't know what that is five six inches around
33:00
or something and they get hard as a fucking rock
33:03
concrete OK, and then there are some really big
33:07
dicks. They don't get like that. And what women
33:10
have to understand is it's like they get an erection
33:13
and they can fuck the shit out of you. But it's
33:16
not like that concrete feeling. It's it feels
33:21
really good. It's like there's this like that
33:24
concrete dick is inside there and then they have
33:26
all this extra dick meat. You know how we have
33:29
fat pussies? They have like fat dicks. So it's.
33:33
It feels good, actually. It's not painful. Like,
33:37
you think this huge dick is just going to rip
33:39
you to shreds. Well, it doesn't feel like that.
33:42
And that's been my experience with some of these
33:45
guys that you look at and you're frightened,
33:48
is it's not tear you up hard. It feels good.
33:54
I don't know. You're just going to have to try
33:55
it. I promise you it's not. As terrifying as
34:00
it looks. It's really a good time. Y 'all listening,
34:02
ladies? Yeah, because when I met you, that was
34:05
the biggest one I had seen in a minute. And so
34:11
I was like, whew, okay. But I was like, oh, this
34:15
feels really enjoyable. Like the whole time.
34:18
So, you know, it wasn't like that. It wasn't
34:21
like he's not tearing you up. You know, you need
34:24
to go to the ER afterwards. It was enjoyable.
34:28
So I just want to put that word out there for
34:31
the ginormous. Yeah, I appreciate it because
34:36
that's what I try to make it, you know, enjoyable.
34:40
Not try to rip you apart and all that. I like
34:43
to make it good for everybody, you know. That's
34:46
why we've played at least four times because
34:50
it is a good time. Nephew, what is he? What is
34:56
it from former episodes? A pleasure what? Dumb.
35:01
A pleasure provider. A pleasure provider, that's
35:04
right. A pleasure provider, that's what it is.
35:08
My best moments would be like one -on -one sessions.
35:10
I love a good one -on -one session. Amen. Because
35:13
the way I am, my mind, like I tried the gangbang
35:18
and all, I can't, like, it just, I can't. there's
35:24
a lot of reasons you know um yeah i can't sit
35:27
down with my dick in my hand waiting and i don't
35:30
i'm not good with all that and just distraction
35:35
i guess i'm adhd or whatever you want to call
35:37
it but i'm easily distracted to while i got to
35:40
be in tune with the individual you know to just
35:44
really do good you know if i'm not mentally there
35:47
everything else is just like And I know you kind
35:53
of, oh, sorry, our last episode. I had no complaints.
35:59
I know you didn't feel like you was 100. No,
36:01
no, it was like the thing that happened. At first
36:06
it was good, but I'm talking about the last of
36:08
it. I may have been too far. He left out and
36:14
the other girl came in. This other girl came
36:18
in and she was just watching and then he got
36:21
turned off because she wasn't participating.
36:23
She was just staring at us. I had the same incident
36:27
with this person before. They knew what they
36:30
were doing. He's trying to fuck your game up.
36:34
I still have time. Yeah, exactly. No, literally.
36:37
Yeah. Literally. Yeah. It's all right. We can
36:41
try again next time I see you. No big deal. No
36:44
big deal. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. I'll be
36:46
down again. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Yeah.
36:51
But, yeah, when it comes to couples, too, I do
36:53
like to say this, man, because you got some couples
36:57
where the husband may be. too thirsty for the
37:01
wife to get pleasure and it was like a moment
37:05
I had not too long ago where I was pleased well
37:08
I thought they was married come to find out they
37:10
wasn't married to each other because right after
37:12
it was done she started asking for my number
37:15
and I was only communicating with him all the
37:18
way up until the point and After they were done,
37:22
she wanted my number specifically. I'm like,
37:24
well, you can go through him. If he approve of
37:26
it, then it's good, you know. And she's like,
37:29
no, we're not together like that. We've only
37:31
been dating for like three months or whatever.
37:33
I'm like, I don't think he out married. But,
37:36
you know, I was like, he was like, oh, now y
37:39
'all trying to leave me out? I'm like, no, whatever
37:42
y 'all got going on, y 'all discuss that. But
37:45
she ain't got to worry about me trying to undercut
37:47
and get with her without you. Y 'all figure that
37:51
out. But, yeah, you got some crazy situations
37:55
that occur. My brother, I think it's safe to
37:58
say that you would be a pretty damn good male
38:02
companion, i .e. escort, out there in the world.
38:06
I wish I would have had you with me. How old
38:09
are you, by the way? If you don't mind me asking.
38:11
I'm 44. I'm 44. 44. Well, boy. Well, you were
38:17
too young then when I was over there in Germany
38:18
doing my thing. But, you know, I would have loved
38:21
to have maybe had you over there a few years
38:24
after the fact. That's where I need to be. We
38:29
would have had a great time because you definitely
38:31
check off all the blocks. Definitely check off
38:34
all the blocks. Well, you know what? I mean.
38:37
He we're going to be throwing some parties coming
38:41
soon. So we definitely, you know, a lot of the
38:44
gentlemen that come on the show, they are top
38:47
notch. I wouldn't invite him if they weren't.
38:50
Mr. Morgan wouldn't invite him if they weren't.
38:53
Siren wouldn't invite him if they weren't. These
38:55
are going to be a lot of the gentlemen that we
38:57
invite to some of our parties that are, you know,
39:00
either our personal parties or Bull Brotherhood
39:04
sponsored parties or. you know, siren or freedom
39:07
parties, whatever. So it's definitely something,
39:09
you know, we're going to be talking to you about
39:11
in the future. So tell me this, Mr. Black Magic,
39:15
how'd you get that name? Oh, that's a good question.
39:18
I don't even think I remember. Actually, man,
39:21
just to be honest, it was just real simple. I
39:24
was doing an account. I can't remember what site
39:29
it was. And you got to come with a username.
39:34
I came up with black magic and stuck with it.
39:37
I just stuck with it. And that's, you know, what
39:43
carried me through. It's fitting. It's fitting.
39:48
It was funny because at one time I was calling
39:51
myself Socrates. Because I used to read a lot
39:55
of philosophy and I love, yes, I love. So you
40:00
were stoic as well. It was actually black Socrates.
40:03
Black Socrates. I thought of that. I was thinking
40:06
that. I was going to do Black Socrates. I was
40:09
this close to doing Black Socrates. I was like,
40:11
but that's too long. Socrates is long enough
40:14
for me. That's too long of a name. Man, I love
40:17
philosophy. I read philosophy a lot. That's kind
40:23
of going along with free spirit, free thinking.
40:26
Those are all free thinkers, man. Sacrifice,
40:31
Plato, Aristotle, I love. It's just something
40:35
about once I get in tune into those subjects,
40:38
it takes me every while. Are you a Stoic as well?
40:41
Yes, yes. I love all this here. Who's your favorite
40:45
Stoic? I'm just more into the Stoicism, just
40:47
the readings of it, and just listening to it
40:51
on, like, channels or whatever. I just like listening
40:54
to it. That's what's up. There's a good book
40:57
called The Obstacle is the Way. He is a stoic.
41:02
The author, I can't remember. I'll send you a
41:05
link. It'll be in the show notes for sure. But
41:09
he is a great stoic representative. All of his
41:16
books, he's written seven books, but several,
41:18
not seven, several. And it's all based on stoicism.
41:22
And which I think really guides me as a bull
41:27
as well is being stoic. I'm not always stoic,
41:31
but it's a discipline that I've committed myself
41:33
to. Does the philosophy, my favorite, who is
41:39
your favorite modern -day philosopher, and how
41:42
has that flushed itself out or manifested itself
41:48
in lifestyle? I don't have a modern -day philosopher.
41:52
I'm still with the traditionals. Aristotle was
41:56
one of the more ones I was. Outside of Socrates,
42:01
Plato, it was Aristotle. And I don't know how
42:09
to pronounce it. I think that's how you pronounce
42:11
it. That's the way I like to pronounce it, like
42:13
Neil Atmerary. It's like never a mile, marvel
42:17
at nothing. And I kind of live by that, you know,
42:22
through our life. Like Neil Atmerary. Like N
42:26
-I -L -A -D. M -I -R -A -R -I or whatever. But
42:32
it definitely means never admire or marvel at
42:37
nothing. Gotcha. Like, don't be excited by this
42:41
or this or, you know. How has what you've learned
42:45
in philosophy translated to the way you are as
42:49
a bull or as a play partner? Well, let me give
42:52
you an example. So one of my favorite modern
42:54
philosophers is Adler. I wrote a book. I mean,
42:58
I read a book recently. It's called The Courage
43:03
to be Disliked. And one of the principles it
43:06
talks about is horizontal leadership versus vertical.
43:11
And vertical leadership is based on hierarchies,
43:15
right? So this guy's above you and this person
43:18
above you and that person's. Whereas vertical
43:20
or horizontal leadership is we're all on the
43:23
same plane, right? I just have a different job
43:26
to do. Yes, exactly. I'm a CEO in my personal
43:29
life. I'm an entrepreneur in my personal life.
43:33
But the lowest person in my company, in my mind,
43:37
is equal. Does that make sense? Exactly. Yes,
43:42
most definitely. So when Unc is teaching me things
43:45
like being a pleasure provider, some people look
43:49
at that as, oh, you're being submissive or you're
43:52
worried about the woman. No. Or if I consider
43:55
myself a dominant or if I consider myself a leader,
43:59
that doesn't mean I'm over you. That doesn't
44:01
mean I'm more important than you are. It means
44:03
this is the role or position or framework I'm
44:08
going to play because this is what I believe
44:10
in. You're equal to me and your role is a submissive
44:14
or a bottom or somebody that I'm just being equally
44:18
in a room trying to give and get pleasure, right?
44:22
That just defines our roles. But I'm never, ever
44:25
above you. And it also makes you feel like, you
44:28
know, I don't care who you are. You could be
44:30
the president. You could be a billionaire. You
44:32
could be whoever. You're not above me either.
44:34
Right. So it's about seeing everybody as equal,
44:38
even in the positions where there's hierarchical
44:40
structures. So for me, it's like in lifestyle,
44:44
we had a debate with some friends. You know,
44:46
we call it the triangle debate. That'll come
44:49
out soon. And I was like, everybody's equal.
44:52
100 % in their responsibility and their challenges
44:56
and the struggle to overcome any kind of challenges,
45:00
right? That's why it's horizontal. There is no.
45:04
So have you had anything that you've learned
45:07
in philosophy that you feel like translated into
45:10
being a better bull? Yes. I mean, I ain't going
45:13
to lie. In that situation, every day is something
45:16
that just by studying that philosophy. tell me
45:21
to adapt into this lifestyle it's because it's
45:24
still the same thing as far as our walk you know
45:28
it's just when it comes to understanding people
45:32
it comes a long way in helping to identify and
45:38
associate better you know when i feel like being
45:41
a good listener is one of the most things you
45:44
could do you know man i sit back I mean, when
45:49
I was young, I was like this. When I was young,
45:52
I was kind of some kind of way got myself involved
45:55
with older women. And I listen. They know more
45:59
than me. I'm not going to act like I know more
46:01
than them. I'm almost a teenager still. It's
46:04
like I listen to women, you know, because I learn
46:07
from listening. And they believe we had a good
46:09
conversation after I was talking. They did. And
46:11
I ain't said nothing just because I listen. And,
46:14
you know, we both came out on top in the situation.
46:18
um because now siren i do know you here so you
46:22
can agree that women love to talk most but most
46:28
i will say yes we do like to talk in my ladies
46:33
group i have a siren of freedom ladies group
46:35
i do not let them railroad any men in that group
46:39
so there will be ladies hey do you know this
46:42
guy like what do you know about him and i say
46:46
If you haven't played with him and he didn't,
46:48
maybe he wasn't the right fit for you, but you
46:53
aren't allowed to do a bunch of negativity on
46:56
there. So positive reviews only, unless if it's
46:59
someone who maybe something unsafe happened,
47:02
then we need to bring it to the gentlemen of
47:04
the community. right away instead of talking
47:07
about it so i don't let them just get on there
47:09
and say i didn't like this guy and his breath
47:11
was bad and shit like that i don't i don't let
47:14
it happen and um and there's another gal on there
47:18
that is my moderator and she you know she'll
47:21
make sure of that too so if she don't catch you
47:23
i will and then if you try more than once then
47:26
you're out so we try to keep it positive but
47:29
but yeah we do chat about what we like and I
47:33
heard about your group. Yeah? What'd you hear?
47:37
Yeah. I didn't know. You never told me about
47:40
it. I heard it through other women. I'm like,
47:42
oh, she got a group for women only? Okay, cool.
47:45
Yeah. Interesting. We have fun, too. But no,
47:47
I heard good things about it. Yeah. We try to
47:50
keep it fun and keep it positive. The other day
47:53
we did, you know, I said, you know, post a picture
47:56
of a favorite thing about your body and tell
47:59
us why you love it, whether it's something that...
48:01
you know it's strong and you know it does this
48:03
or you know you feel like it's what makes you
48:07
beautiful or whatever and it was just a really
48:08
good it was probably one of the most participated
48:11
in you know things and then um the other moderator
48:15
she had us do a day where we uh spoke about our
48:20
weekend and kind of like old english language
48:22
it was hilarious you know yeah i was like A fortnight
48:27
ago, I was on my journey to the great country
48:32
of Texas, you know. It was fun. So we just tried
48:35
to do something fun every couple days in there.
48:38
It's fun. Post pictures and stuff too? No, we're
48:42
not. I mean, it's a bunch of women. So, you know,
48:44
unless we're doing something like the body positivity
48:46
thing, we don't really post a bunch of pictures.
48:49
You know, like nothing scandalous and usually.
48:54
you know once in a while we don't have like the
48:56
stuff that is in the the you know the groups
48:59
that has everybody in it um we try to keep it
49:02
mostly to talking and you know i never shut anyone
49:06
down from posting something you know but in general
49:09
when it's all just a bunch of women in the room
49:11
like we're not trying to we're not trying to
49:13
show off to each other you know so yeah or we
49:18
did like hey everybody post your favorite song
49:22
that you're just rocking to right now. Like let's,
49:25
you know, help each other build some awesome
49:26
playlists or, you know, or a woman will have
49:29
a question or, you know, about, or sexual health
49:32
topics that we get into, you know, about different
49:36
things that will help women, um, stuff like that.
49:39
So it's, it's, it's really good. Yeah. I've been
49:42
enjoying it. Yeah. That's what's up. And Sacrifice,
49:47
you said something. When I met you, what you
49:52
said kind of, you know, let me know, man. We
49:55
think on the same plane in a lot of areas. And,
49:58
like, how you just, you know, being social. Like,
50:01
it ain't about going to see who you're going
50:03
to have sex with or how many women. You know,
50:06
like how you say you just go places. You don't
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even have it on mind. It's a natural thing that
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occurs. You don't have to look for it. It's there.
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It'll happen. It ain't. Like, if you go somewhere
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and don't have sex, it's not a big, it ain't
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even about that no more. I don't know if it got
50:21
to do with age or what, but maturity for sure.
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It's just like, yeah, you just go places. A lot
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of people you go out with, they're like, man,
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I want to know what it's going to be like. It's
50:33
a DTF. If it ain't that, I don't want to come.
50:36
I don't even think like that no more. It's more
50:38
like. Man, I'm coming to have a good time being
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social or whatever. If I walk out of there and
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nothing happened, at least I know I had a good
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time being married, you know? And, yeah. My brother,
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that's called evolution. I talk about it all
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the time. You are evolving as a person, a man,
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and a bull. All right? I applaud that. I applaud
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you. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you tonight.
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Hell, I think I got family in Houston, Texas
51:05
now. god damn more definitely man you ever come
51:09
down feel free to reach out you just broke down
51:13
what a sigma male is you know it's very rare
51:16
that you meet one that is that is uh living the
51:19
life the same way as another you know but you
51:23
are definitely doing that definitely doing that
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it is a pleasure as far as i'm concerned you
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are on the uh on the special guest host list
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from now on okay I appreciate that. Yeah, definitely.
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Definitely. Yeah. I want this to be the last
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time. So, yeah. Oh, no, it definitely will not.
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It definitely will not. Believe me. Trust and
51:45
believe it will not. It will not. Nephew. Right
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on. Yes, sir. Nephew, are you there? Yes, sir.
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All right. I'm sitting there looking at the time.
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I'm timing it just right because my phone is
51:57
about dead. Okay. It's about dead. I hate to
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cut it off, but we might have to have a part
52:04
two for this one, all right? Oh, yeah. All right,
52:08
then. Look here, ladies and gentlemen, it has
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indeed been a pleasure to sit here and listen
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to the one and only Black Magic out of Houston,
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Texas. And he will definitely be back as a special
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guest host for the Boy Brotherhood in the very
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near future. And let me do something that I don't
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usually do. I'm going to give out my social media
52:27
handles to the people out there listening. If
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you want to email me, you can email me at sigmamail3390
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at gmail .com. I am on Instagram, bmorgan3390,
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and Twitter at sigmamail1227. Until we meet again,
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y 'all, good night.