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Jailyn Candelario - Child Abandonment · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Crime comes in all shapes and sizes, from theft to
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  Speaker 1: murder to child abandonment, which is exactly what takes place
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  Speaker 1: in today's case. But that's a broad term, as it
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  Speaker 1: too can come in all shapes and sizes. It can
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  Speaker 1: mean many things. But trust me when I say, in
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  Speaker 1: the case of Jayleen Candelario, it is about as bad
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  Speaker 1: as it can possibly get.
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  Speaker 2: My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked
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  Speaker 2: and Grim.
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  Speaker 1: A true crime podcast.
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  Speaker 3: The following podcast and material intended for at your audience
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  Speaker 3: listener discretion. O.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what what I have something to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Is that it?
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  Speaker 1: That's it. That's pretty important to say.
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  Speaker 2: You're drinking your favorite beer all.
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  Speaker 1: Time, thousand peaks thanks to Trench Brewing, not sponsored but Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: If you're listening, yeah, just keep making that forever.
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  Speaker 1: Always always.
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  Speaker 2: I actually like the logo or the yeah, the label.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of cool that ombrace sky look to it.
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  Speaker 2: You might need a bevy of some sorts. I'm drinking.
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  Speaker 2: Look at me, I'm actually drinking hydration tablets in my water.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, good for you. Stay hydrated. Do the adult thing,
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  Speaker 1: because you've been complaining about how you're dying from the job.
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  Speaker 2: I am about as sore as hell, and then so like,
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  Speaker 2: I was so sore my lower body because on Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: I did a lower body class and then today I'm
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  Speaker 2: a complete idiot and went and did an upper body class.
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  Speaker 2: So tomorrow I'm just gonna be fucked.
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  Speaker 1: All around whole body. You get me be done, And
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  Speaker 1: I have.
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  Speaker 2: A wedding that I'm shooting on Saturday. It might not
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  Speaker 2: be a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you drink trench thousand peaks with beer,
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  Speaker 1: it might alleviate some pain. Drink trench oh man. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're gonna You're gonna kill it though you always
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fine. It's like I become human at weddings,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't. I just like don't really have needs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to pee, I don't really need.
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  Speaker 1: It's called superhuman. There you go, Yeah, you get in
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  Speaker 1: the zone. Yeah, but Nicole's right, you might want to
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  Speaker 1: drink for today's case because it is a doozy. It's
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  Speaker 1: not the most graphic, but it does involve, as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: child abandonment, So.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna piss you off because you give me a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of an overview, just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Like elevator pitch sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to the gym. I think you needed
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  Speaker 2: to kind of get it off your chest a bit.
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  Speaker 2: And I was just like pissed driving to the gym, Like,
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  Speaker 2: just pissed.
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  Speaker 1: How often do I actually have to walk away from
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  Speaker 1: my computer to yeah, like I break from working, but
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  Speaker 1: to take a break from the case while researching, walk
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  Speaker 1: away from my computer get a breather from what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck is happening and what I'm reading that happened today?
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  Speaker 2: So we're really really in for it here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was mad. I was fuman. So you might
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  Speaker 1: want to drink today? Yeah, drink?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't be alcohol. It could be a hydration
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  Speaker 2: it could.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, we've gone over this before. A drink does not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily mean alcohol. A drink is a soothing beverage. That
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  Speaker 1: could be coffee, that could be tea, it could be water,
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  Speaker 1: because hey, maybe you do need to.
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  Speaker 2: Hydrate or maybe is that going to help me?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe? Or maybe it is a trench thousand peaks with beer. Heck,
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  Speaker 1: not sponsored.
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  Speaker 2: This. We should almost be sponsored. We should be, we
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  Speaker 2: should be.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, I got my get the ready. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: need it, so I'm gonna need you to pipe in
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  Speaker 1: a couple times to get me an opportunity to actually
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  Speaker 1: drink it today. You got it, because that's the thing
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  Speaker 1: about presenting case.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really I know, you don't really get to
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  Speaker 2: super enjoy the bevy.
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  Speaker 1: No a little bit. I get a couple of SIPs,
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  Speaker 1: but then after the podcast, I'm usually down the rest,
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  Speaker 1: but I have a feeling I'm going to want to
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  Speaker 1: finish this can by the end of this case. So
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  Speaker 1: fair enough, here we go. Let's dive into this case.
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  Speaker 1: This is a case of as I mentioned, Jaylen Candellero.
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  Speaker 1: But to get into her story, we first have to
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  Speaker 1: start off with Crystal Crystal Candellero.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: Crystal was born on September eleventh, nineteen ninety one. She
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  Speaker 1: was born in Ecuador, but would eventually move to the
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  Speaker 1: United States in twenty sixteen when she was twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years old. Not a lot is really known as to
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  Speaker 1: why her and her family made the move to North America,
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  Speaker 1: but most likely it was the promise of everything that
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  Speaker 1: the US had to offer as far as you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very developed country and the classic you know, quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote American dream Right may have played a role, but
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to say. That's strictly speculation on my part.
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  Speaker 1: But they moved, they made the move, and here they are.
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  Speaker 1: So when they came to North America, Crystal, her sister,
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  Speaker 1: and her two parents would move into a three bedroom,
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  Speaker 1: one bathroom home in Cleveland, Ohio. The house is a
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  Speaker 1: quaint little blue home with some nice white trim out front.
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  Speaker 1: On the front of the house was a covered patio
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  Speaker 1: that held the front door entrance. It was nice, it
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  Speaker 1: was cute, it was fitting in with the other houses
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  Speaker 1: in the surrounding neighborhood. And the neighborhood was called the
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  Speaker 1: Cuttle Neighborhood. Oh my, that's cute, not like Cuddle. It's
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  Speaker 1: c U D D E l l okay like cadell
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  Speaker 1: or it's not like cut.
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  Speaker 2: That's a cute little neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds sounds cuddly, that's for sure. But now
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood is a resident of the residential There we
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  Speaker 1: Go area located on the west side of Cleveland, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Now it was named after the German immigrant Frank E. Cuddle,
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  Speaker 1: so it's actually his name, who was an architect. There's
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  Speaker 1: only one D in Cuttaege just realized because his name
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  Speaker 1: actually has one D. Yeah. So he was an architect
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  Speaker 1: who made significant contributions to the city's development in the
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  Speaker 1: late nineteenth and earlie twentieth century. Now, this neighborhood has
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  Speaker 1: a rich history and a diverse community, but like many
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  Speaker 1: neighborhoods in Cleveland, it has faced economic challenges, including poverty.
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  Speaker 1: I'm stumbling today. I think it's anticipation on what's to
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  Speaker 1: come in.
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  Speaker 2: This case, yeah, deep breast, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, including poverty, unemployment, and housing instability. However, there have
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  Speaker 1: been ongoing efforts by community organizations and the city to
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  Speaker 1: revitalize the area, you know, improve public safety, attract new residents,
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  Speaker 1: and investments, all that sort of good stuff. Right. Still, though,
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  Speaker 1: the Candelario family kept their chin up and pursued their
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  Speaker 1: new life in America in the Cuttle neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in regards to Crystal specifically, before the move occurred,
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  Speaker 1: she had actually gotten a bachelor's degree in education and
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  Speaker 1: now began and in this new country, you know, trying
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  Speaker 1: to eagerly use it. She began applying to be a
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  Speaker 1: substitute teacher and to gain her substitute teacher's license, and
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  Speaker 1: she was applying consistently since the year twenty twenty. As
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  Speaker 1: a result, she would eventually start work as a substitute
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  Speaker 1: teacher at an elementary school called Citizens Leadership Academy in
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  Speaker 1: December of twenty twenty two, so two years ago. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so before she began working consistently, though, Crystal found herself,
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  Speaker 1: like many others, looking for love, and it would eventually
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  Speaker 1: start with an online relationship with a man in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty one, just a year prior before her actually working
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  Speaker 1: at the elementary school, and she found love with this
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  Speaker 1: man by the name of Henry Garcia. However, Henry did
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  Speaker 1: not live near Crystal whatsoever. He didn't even live in
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  Speaker 1: the US. Whatever, you're staring at my beard going on here,
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  Speaker 1: it's making me nervous.
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  Speaker 2: No, sorry, I'm just like very angry because yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: just like connected some thing here and I just yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I know what to talk about. We'll
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  Speaker 1: touch on that, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm just not saying much, okay, And
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  Speaker 2: sorry for staring awkwardly at your being.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at you and you're just staring at my.
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  Speaker 2: Beard as well, because I'm just like, what the okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm backing up a bit so we can get back
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  Speaker 1: on track here. So, before she began working consistently, though,
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  Speaker 1: Crystal found herself like many others, looking for love and
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  Speaker 1: would eventually start an online relationship with a man in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one by the name of Henry Garcia. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Henry did not live near Crystal. He lived back in Ecuador,
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  Speaker 1: where Crystal was actually from. So throughout their online relationship,
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  Speaker 1: the desire to meet up in person, you know, of course,
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  Speaker 1: came to the table and get greater and greater as
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  Speaker 1: time went on. So the two made some effort to travel,
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  Speaker 1: and they met up in the Dominican Republic for a
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  Speaker 1: little getaway to see each other. Right, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of travel, a little bit of fun, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of vacation, a little bit of drinking who knows what,
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit of you know, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: a couple time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So when Crystal got back to the USA, it didn't
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  Speaker 1: take long for her to realize that the visits she
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  Speaker 1: just had with her boyfriend resulted in her getting pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: Their relationship as a couple wouldn't last, though, he reportedly
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  Speaker 1: became abusive after learning about a pregnancy. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if it was like because of the pregnancy or just
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  Speaker 1: because they like were getting to know each other too much.
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  Speaker 1: Like the relationship developed and his true color started showing,
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  Speaker 1: but he began getting abusive in that time, so she
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  Speaker 1: stopped going to see him, traveling to see him as well,
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  Speaker 1: and the relationship ended like straight.
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  Speaker 2: Up, okay, well yeah, fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean Crystal was in another country after all, too,
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  Speaker 1: so it left her not only as a single mother.
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  Speaker 1: Even if this relationship wasn't sour, she was still like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in another country, you're in another country. I'm pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: Even if we're making this work, I'm still kind of
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  Speaker 1: just a single mother here, right, Yeah. So without a partner,
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  Speaker 1: she gave birth to her daughter, Jayleen Candelario, on January
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixth, twenty twenty two. With a new child, life
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  Speaker 1: can quickly change, and it can become a very big
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  Speaker 1: struggle for many new parents, especially when attempting to navigate
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  Speaker 1: the waters of parenthood solo. But to say that Crystal
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  Speaker 1: did do her best would unfortunately be an understatement.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, no shit, no shit, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, we haven't even got there yet.
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  Speaker 2: Chill, Okay, sorry, this is gonna be a hard one
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  Speaker 2: for me. Like, I'm know I'm supposed to be chatty,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like, yeah, okay, struggling already here.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good. Well. Scrolling through crystal social media pages,
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  Speaker 1: it was hard to tell that she had a daughter
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  Speaker 1: at all. It was filled with selfies of herself putting
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  Speaker 1: on new clothes and posing in the mirror or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was, or even photos when she was traveling and
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  Speaker 1: exploring new places because she particularly loved to travel, so.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't really post photos of like daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Not so much. And I'm not saying like anyone needs
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  Speaker 1: to have their baby take over their Instagram feed by
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  Speaker 1: any means. It just seems like it tends to happen
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  Speaker 1: naturally more often than not, that people start uploading a
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  Speaker 1: lot of photos of their kids, and that didn't happen
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  Speaker 1: with her.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she could be I mean, I don't know, probably not,
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  Speaker 2: but like she could be, a lot of parents choose
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  Speaker 2: not to post their kids online exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not judging whatsoever. It just might have been an
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  Speaker 1: indication of what's to come to see. Yeah, in Cristel's case,
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  Speaker 1: there was very few photos for her daughter that were
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  Speaker 1: being posted. Okay, Now it was obvious outside of social
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  Speaker 1: media though, that Crystal didn't want her life to really
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  Speaker 1: make a shift into parenthood. She was still too caught
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  Speaker 1: up with herself and what she wanted to do, and
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  Speaker 1: primarily that travel life. Okay, so we reported incidents in
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  Speaker 1: late twenty twenty two. When Jalen was almost one year old,
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  Speaker 1: Kristen had a friend or neighbor, an acquaintance sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: This neighbor was kind of a friend, acquaintance whatever. Right,
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  Speaker 1: She had this neighbor friend babysit for the weekend. So
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  Speaker 1: Crystal was going to go off, you know, have a
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  Speaker 1: kid free weekend, and this person was going to look
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  Speaker 1: after it, no problem, catch up with you on Monday.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of thing, right, Yeah, I mean that's that sounds nice, right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no for a parent, so oh yeah, all
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  Speaker 1: the power to you. Totally definitely not judging, but I
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  Speaker 1: am judging here with what comes next. Because the weekend
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  Speaker 1: went fine and Jalen was being looked after and everything,
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  Speaker 1: But when the day came for Crystal to be picked
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  Speaker 1: or to pick her daughter up, yeah, she never showed up. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: calls were made, messages were sent, but Crystal never answered.
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  Speaker 2: That's brutal.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, reported weeks went by with Crystal avoiding any
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  Speaker 1: sort of contact from the babysitter. Weeks weeks she just
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  Speaker 1: left her daughter in their care with no communication, far
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  Speaker 1: longer than anticipated. And this babysitter was like leaving messages
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  Speaker 1: like I can't afford the formula to be feeding your baby,
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  Speaker 1: Like I literally cannot afford to go buy it right now,
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  Speaker 1: Like what can you? Like, what the hell's going on here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're expecting you're kind of like doing a
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  Speaker 2: favor for like a weekend, right and I'm sure she
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  Speaker 2: had supplied, you know, what the baby needed. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: then to be gone for freaking weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know how long quote unquote weeks is exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it was two weeks, a week and a half,
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  Speaker 1: three weeks, I'm not sure, but I do know quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote weeks, it was the timeline, and it was long
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  Speaker 1: enough that Jaylen actually began, sorry, Jayleen, sorry, I actually
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  Speaker 1: began calling the babysitter like Mama.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA really? Okay, Well, that's that's like a pretty extended
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  Speaker 2: amount of time, you think I.
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  Speaker 1: Would assume that's a very long time. If that's the
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  Speaker 1: case that's actually occurring.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's so sad.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this apparently was not uncommon behavior, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: for this extent maybe, I mean sure, like the weeks, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was uncommon. But Jayleen would be left with
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  Speaker 1: neighbors and family members often to be looked after. Neighbors
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  Speaker 1: would babysit when she went to work, and Jayleen would
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  Speaker 1: be left hours longer than she was supposed to, hours
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  Speaker 1: longer than they were told, and they were just like,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on? When are you showing up? Where are you?
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  Speaker 1: And should like come dragging her her ass back? Finally
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  Speaker 1: sort of thing right at the last hour sort of situation.
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  Speaker 1: And one news interview actually with a neighbor showed how
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  Speaker 1: they claimed it was Jaylen's grandma who generally looked after her,
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  Speaker 1: and not her mother Crystal at all. Okay, yeah, huh,
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  Speaker 1: So I do want to preface that Jayleen was well
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  Speaker 1: cared for, thankfully.
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  Speaker 2: Just not by her mom, right, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So it would have been Crystal's mom, yeah, who generally
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  Speaker 1: did the care of Jayleen.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean you do hear about that sometimes, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like the person wasn't ready to have a kate or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: so then the grandparent has to step in.
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  Speaker 1: Right, definitely. No, I'm not judging anything as far as.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not judging either, but I'm just like you
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  Speaker 2: do hear of that happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's always situation. However, it's not cool to
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  Speaker 1: abandon your child and be like, can you babysit the weekend?
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  Speaker 1: Weeks later enough?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you have to communicate properly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's also not cool to be like, hey, mom,
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  Speaker 1: can you look after my kid because I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: just go party and then just not come back. And
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  Speaker 1: you just keep doing that over and over and I'm
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  Speaker 1: taking advantage, Like, that's not okay. You want to go party,
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  Speaker 1: have a good weekend, leave your kid with your your
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  Speaker 1: parent form the look after. Fucking power to you, but
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  Speaker 1: step back in that role and be responsible, you know. So,
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  Speaker 1: So now, Jalen, I do want to preface this as well,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen wasn't the only daughter that Crystal had. She had
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  Speaker 1: an older daughter as well, but there isn't much information
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  Speaker 1: out there regarding them, Okay, and this story is Jalen's
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  Speaker 1: story after all, So keeping the sister anonymous and this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing is quite understandable.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I did just want to preface that that Jalen
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: had an older sister. Don't know the age, don't know
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  Speaker 1: the name, but yeah, it was case.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know, do you are you aware of like
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  Speaker 2: the older sister was living with them?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So it would have been a total of I believe
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  Speaker 1: it would have been five six people in the house
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  Speaker 1: because you have the two grandparents, you have Crystal, her
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  Speaker 1: sibling and two daughters.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yep, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But regardless of all that situation, regardless of the older sister.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, the new or sorry, the school
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  Speaker 1: year was coming to an end. You know, summer holidays
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  Speaker 1: are coming, right Jaylen Jayleen? I really want to call
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  Speaker 1: her Jaylen. I'm pretty sure it's Jayleen. So Jayleen was
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  Speaker 1: only sixteen months old and her mother, Crystal, you know,
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  Speaker 1: working as a substitute teacher, as I mentioned earlier, if
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  Speaker 1: you recall, was looking forward to these summer holidays, not
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: to spend with her daughter though, not to have the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: time off and you know, be the loving mother or
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: family person or whatever it was for Crystal. Instead, she
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: was looking forward to one of her favorite things, traveling. Traveling,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: traveling of course, right, so she had a million places
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: in her mind that she wanted to travel to, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: one of the top ones that was on her list
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: of the moment was Puerto Rico. Okay, See, she had
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a new boyfriend that she was talking with online and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: heading over there meant a new vacation with her newest
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: love interest.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Sounds kind of romantic, I guess.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Eh yep, similar to as what had happened before to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: conceive Jayleen. So she booked her vacation for June eighth
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to June eleventh.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: June eighth to June eleventh, okay, like she would have
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: just finished the school year then, yesah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: So she had left a few days early to earlier
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: than what she had booked. The vacation in Puerto Rico
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: was June eight to eleventh, but she left early to
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: head to Detroit for a few days with friends before
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: catching her flight. Okay, so a ring doorbell camera footage
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: on the house that they lived and shows her leaving
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: on June sixth, twenty twenty three, with suitcase in hand,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: ready for her adventure.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: This case is like quite new, hey, very much so?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, very much. It's we're talking last year. Yeah,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: this happened a year ago.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Oh okay.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So however, like always, she left Jayleen in the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: hands of others to care for the Only problem is,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: though there was no one else around for the job.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: The rest of the family was already out of the
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: house and away, taking Crystel's oldest daughter with them, which
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: left just Crystal and Jaylen in the house. But now
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: that Crystal was leaving, it meant that sixteen month old
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Jayleen was being left in the house alone.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. So she just decided, like wow, it is
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: actually unbelievable. So no one was there. She's probably like
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Burnt Bridges with so many people watching this little girl,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and she just decided that she would just fuck it
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: and go anyway.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if she had tempted to find
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: anyone to look after her. She just, I mean, before
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: heading out the door, Crystal made sure Jayleen was put
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in her playpen, but that was generally a place for
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: little Jayleen to be put in play or nap or whatever, right,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: or or a moment for you know, mom to get
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a moment to herself or grandma or whatever.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, a safe place while you're like making dinner
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now instead this playpen is it's going to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: serve as Jaylen's prison cell for a toddler.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Like, what did she think was going to happen? I
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: don't know, just didn't give a shit she.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Did, She didn't care to think. I don't know if
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: she didn't care, but she didn't care to think.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you wouldn't even have to think very.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Hard, No, you wouldn't, you know. It's very obvious. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: my child needs looking after. If I leave, what's going
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to happen?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, But.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what's happening here. Crystal went out the front
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: door with her suitcase as I mentioned already seen on
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the ring camera, and she hopped into an uber and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: went on her way, leaving her daughter.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Behind completely alone at like sixteen months.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: You bet you so. As the days passed, she was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: having the time of her life. She hung up with friends,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: spent time with her new boyfriend, walked on beaches, ate
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: good food, swam in the ocean, had some drinks, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: all the vacation y type stuff, and probably again more
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like adult time with her new love interest. Right, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: she of course, made several posts to her social media pages,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as she often did, showing all the good times that
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: she was having. There was even one post she made
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on June ninth, three days after she left home, that
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: shows her on the Isle Verde Beach in Puerto Rico.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I just butchered the pronunciation of that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: because I am not Spanish. I am Canadian, so my apologies.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But in that post, she added a caption that read
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: this quote time enjoyed is the true time live now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I want to preface that her native language is Spanish.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That is translated she posted in Spanish. That's translations.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So yeah, oh my gosh, the amount of things that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I want to say right now, Like but I just
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, what do you want to say? Well,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: this like it's so inappropriate, Like it's so inappropriate, but
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: like this this chick is just fucked Like she's like
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a complete bitch. Yeah, So like and that's sort that's
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: me like downpling what I want to actually say, but like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: what the actual shit she there?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: To put it in the easiest terms and downplay it
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but still keep the veracity of the words I want
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to say. She's an absolute fucking monster, and that is
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: putting it nicely, very nicely.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I just like, I can't even comprehend that you would
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: be able to just disassociate so much from like what
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: could be going on at home and just going and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like enjoying yourself and not like having a care in
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the world. I know that is. It's mind blowing. It's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: mind blowing. It doesn't even seem like it is something
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: someone of a right mind should be able to do.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I agree. So we are currently three days since she
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: left her daughter at home alone, and the days continued
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to pass by as Crystal enjoyed her vacation until finally
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it was over and it was time for her to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: come home. She caught her flight and flew back to Detroit,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: where her journey started, but instead of catching an uber
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and heading back home, she decided to stay a few
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: extra days there to keep the vacation going and enjoying
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: more time with her friends before finally calling it quits.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: It would be a grand total of ten days that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Crystal was on vacation for leaving her daughter abandoned in
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the house without anyone. It was ten days that Jayleen
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was left alone at sixteen months old.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Man did she like think maybe that the other family
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: members were coming home or something, because I really am
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: having a hard time comprehending this.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Again, I don't she didn't think she did, as far
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: as I can tell, because I've watched some interviews with
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: her and everything. I mean, maybe not interviews, well, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: mean kind of some interviews quote unquote interviews if you will,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: like with police and stuff. But she just didn't think.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: That's the best way I can put it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: She just did not think she might literally be the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: most self absorbed person in the whole entire world.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, when Crystal returned home on June sixteenth, twenty
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: twenty three, she found Jayleen still in her playpen, right
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: where she was left. She was severely dehydrated and severely starved.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Her eyes were sunken in and laying in an extremely
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: soiled playpen as she had nowhere else to go and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: nowhere else to relieve herself. Crystal found her daughter laying motionless,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: she wasn't breathing. In a panic, Crystal dialed nine one one,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and here's that call, h.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Empire. Sorry what I said, I'm talking to help you?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Are you going like you say? Okay?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And the thing that's more ring. Okay, scary, Crissle, Crisle,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: your lasting crazels. Please tell me a fish.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Anything you tell me? Going on? So we.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Like going on?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so hard. But now I can get in the audience.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, she knows it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Why why why I'm ashamed coming over.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Their mom and they.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Are mom mom. Yeah, I'm.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: So.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: The quality of the audio that I got a hold
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of is not the best quality. It's very echoey. I'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: going to try in impost to do a little bit
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: of adjustment here for everyone to make it a little
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: bit more clear what you're hearing. What's going on is
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Crystal is in an absolute manic panic, screaming my baby's dying.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Help me, my baby's dying. The nine to one dispatch
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is trying to get an address, name and what happened.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: But Crystal's English isn't the greatest. Being you know, from
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Ecuador and a Spanish speaking first individual, She's doing very
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: good with English as far as I'm concerned, especially in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: this sort of situation where she is panicking, but she
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is at a loss for some of her words, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of Spanish being thrown around,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: which is the jumbling in the background that I can't understand.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is just jumbling inaudible, maybe it's not Spanish.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it's hard to really get an
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: understanding of what some of the things is that she's saying.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But she is panic. She's like, come on, come on,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: please help, Like now she's dying. She said, she's not moving.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: She's white. She's white. She's like, please send someone now.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And yeah, did she leave out the fact that she
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: was just vacationing for the last ten days.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll touch on that here in a second.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Because honestly, like listening to that, I feel like my
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like my heart should feel like pretty sad and stuff, right,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: but I it honestly just I felt like it just
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: kind of increased my hatred towards her.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: See, I do feel the opposite. I had sympathy for
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: her there because, as I said, I don't think she
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: she thought well, and that's that's what makes me think
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: she didn't think about what would happen, because you said earlier,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: it's if you think about it for a moment, it's
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: clear on what can happen if you leave a child
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: alone at that age in a house. And I don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: think she even thought about it. Well, I that's why
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: That makes me feel like sick, because I can't comprehend
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: someone not thinking that through.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Oh I agree, I agree, But this is what makes
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: me think that she didn't think is because of her
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: response here.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Jeez.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So needless to say though, once they were once they
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: understood the address and everything, police were quickly dispatched to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the home. They knew something horrible had happened inside, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: they were preparing themselves when they were walking through the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: door of that home. But as one detective described in
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the courtroom later on, this is this was one of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the worst things he had ever witnessed in his entire career.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Oh and that's just one thing too, Like her actions
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: aren't just affecting like her and her daughter, they're going
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to be They're affecting so many more people too, write
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: like this little girl also had like you know, grandparents
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that loved her and stuff.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And the older sister and auntie.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now these these like first responders are having
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to go in there, and it just yeah, it's a
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: spiral effect of just like destroying and affecting so many
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: people's freaking lives.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: It is, so they did find little jay Lynn as
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I described earlier, and I'm not going to put you
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: guys through the description again because it was heartbreaking the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: first time, but she was withered away for a lack
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of better terms, and shortly after the ambulance arrived at
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the scene, she was unfortunately pronounced dead at only sixteen
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: months old.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Dang wow.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: The investigation into what happened quickly began. How could this
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: little girl end up in this withered state that she
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: was in. It was clear that some sort of neglect
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: was occurring, so the investigator started asking Crystal questions. Now,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: police bodycam footage shows the questioning occurring while they are
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: still at the scene and the time is only two
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: hours after the nine one one call was placed. Investigators
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: are asking questions regarding Jayleen, her health, and how she
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: came to be so frail leading up to her death. Right,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Crystal is seen in a rather calm manner, which is
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: surprising considering the circumstances of what just happened and how
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: she was on the nine to one one call. But
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: instead of being panicked, she was calm and in dealing
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: with the police and everything. She was describing how she
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: was caring for Jayleen during her declining health the past week. Now,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: this is where I had to take my break and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: walk away from my research, because this is where I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: got so fucking mad, because she is now calm and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: lying to the police. According to her, she had been
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: home and Jaylen had been sorry. Jaylen had been vomiting
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and not eating at all. She'd been giving your tylenol,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: trying to get her to feel better, but she just
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: wouldn't eat, she would throw it up. All of which
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: were lies. She hadn't been looking after Jaylen at all
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in the least, she had abandoned her and she went
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: on vacation instead. And she was now calm about this,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: not concerned about her daughter. She was concerned about her
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: own ass.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, And that just like flipped that quickly in
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: two hours.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Two hours afterwards, body cam shows her calm as a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: fucking cucumber, covering her ass, making up these fucking stories,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: which tells me immediately after nine one one, as soon
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: as she caught her breath, for a minute before police
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: were even arriving, she was in her head making these excuses,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how she can get out of
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: this totally. She was not concerned about her fucking daughter.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: So this is where I lost my shit on this case.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Well see, and that's why I'm still almost feeling like
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: that call was just a bunch of bullshit. Like I'm
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure that she wasn't just being
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: like acting in drama to some ex she might have.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Been, because when I heard that call initially I thought
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it was real.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure now because it if like she
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: processed how this is going to benefit her in the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: long run, and now that she doesn't have a kid
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and she can just like I mean, she still is
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: an older kidding, she still does have another but like
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: she can just like go on vacation or do whatever
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the hell she wants. Probably more so she was going
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to do it anyways, That's very true.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think she had a care in the world
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to even concern herself about her children. I still do
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: stand by that. I don't think she thought because she
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: didn't care to think, and the moment she had to think,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: it was about herself. Still. Yeah, So it didn't take
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: much digging for investigators to find out the truth.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Oh God, no, no, it wouldn't.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a matter of you know, oh my child
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: is sick. I've been caring for her after all this. No,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: her social media was filled with posts from her trip.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: They found footage on the ring camera of her leaving
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for vacation coming home from vacation. The ring camera had
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: even captured many events with Jayleen crying inside the house alone,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: including one at June ninth at approximately one am, when
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: they believed it captured Jayleen's final cries before she died.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: No.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, they found plane tickets, flightlests, receipts, you name it,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: all proving that Crystal had never been there for her child.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: In fact, she wasn't even in the fucking country. No.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Because the thing is, if like she was that sick
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: and like trying to care, like she would have probably
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: taken her to the doctor exactly.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: That also brings in the question, if she was this sick,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: if she was losing all this weight, if she was frail,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: not eating, why the fuck did you not do anything?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: My gosh, this just is like just makes you just
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: so sick.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Eh, this is this is not the most gruesome case
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: we've covered, but this is one of the.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: One of the worst.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: To me, This is this is almost up there with
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like Sylvia Lichens because of the I mean, don't get
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: me wrong, she was fucking tortured in that basement, But
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: this little girl was just abandoned without a single fucking
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: thought by her mother.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because what that little girl went through would
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: be horrible.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, horrible. And I do want to preface like, you
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: cannot compare cases. It's just some cases really fucking tug
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: at your hearts, and this one's tugging at my heart
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in that degree, is all I'm meaning. So, I mean
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: she was lying through her teeth just to cover her
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: own fucking ass. Now, the autopsy of Jayleen showed that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: she had died due to starvation and severe dehydration. Now,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: remember she was only sixteen months old, and I don't
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: know what she had weighed. I don't know what an
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: average sixteen month old weighs. But she had lost seven
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: pounds since her recent doctor's visit in April, barely two
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: months prior. Seven pounds less than that recorded weight when
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: she went to the doctor's.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and probably even more so than that, because
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: in those two months, like kids, they gain weight, I
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: feel like fairly quickly at that age, right, and stuff
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: is it growing?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So Crystal was, of course and rightfully so swiftly
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: arrested as a result of all the findings. It was
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: on June eighteenth that she was arrested and charged with
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the murder of her sixteen month old daughter, with prosecutors
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: not ruling out the possibility of the death penalty.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, I just feel like she should be okay
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: for someone that age to not be like fed or
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: liquids or anything, right, It's like for an adult, you
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: could last longer, I think, right, So they need to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: figure out the equivalent and lock her into some frickin'
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: room for that time. I'm serious, No, I get you.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like she needs to realize what the fuck
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: she did. Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: No, my laugh at your response is not because I'm like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Nicole. No, I fully fucking agree. But
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it's funny you say that because I have a quote
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: at the end of this that kind of goes along
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: with those fucking lines. Well, yeah, we're going to touch on.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So anyways. After being arrested, her bond was set for
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: a million dollars, with a trial date set in January
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four of this year. Okay, now, it
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: was postponed a little bit into February. But however, it
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter because a trial never came to be because
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: four days before she was set to see the inside
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: of a courtroom, Crystal took a plea deal.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I thought you were going to say that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: she took her own life. No, yeah, okay, which was
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: shocking to me.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: You know, she didn't do that. She took a plea deal.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: How the fuck would she even get a plea deal.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Well, she agreed to plead guilty to aggravated murder and
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: endangering a child, which she would it would remain. It
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: would mean that the remaining charges that were actually being
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: placed against her other than those two, would be dropped.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: So the charges that she initially being charged with were
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: aggravated murder, endangering a child, two counts of murder, and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: one count of feloness assault. So this means that the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: two counts of murder and one count of feloness assault
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: would be dropped, leaving her only with the aggravation murder
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and endangering a child. Now, taking this plea meant that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the chances of receiving the death penalty significantly dropped, if
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: not faded off the table altogether.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: So, on March eighteenth, twenty twenty four, Crystal received her sentence,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and on this day, Crystal's defense team presented not an
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: excuse on this whole incident, but reasons why this may
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: have happened, an understanding if you will. They have course
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: played the mental health card, saying that her mental well
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: being was lacking. She went on the trip because in
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: her mind, if she was okay, it meant her daughter
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: was okay too. Bullshit.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Excuse me for a minute, I I was like, holy shit,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: are you okay? I thought you're actually choking.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Jeez, well I'm choking on what?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's some big time bullshit right there.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what they're alluding to is that some
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: quasi fucked up, out of sight, out of mind kind
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: of thing. And they were all so saying, you know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: she was on some medication and stuff, some pretty heavy
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: medication then like for for mental health. Then was off
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it just prior to this trip. But that doesn't explain
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: her prior incidents with child abandonment, the two weeks, three
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: weeks whatever it was, of just the threat someone else's house.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: She has a history of this exactly. No matter what
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the defense said, and no matter what Crystal had to say,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: they they did not try to make excuses. I want
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to do say that, but I think that's because they're
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: in sentencing. They're not defending themselves in court. It's she
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: already took complete she's guilty, she's admitting guilt, so there's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: no use, right right. The only painted a picture of understanding,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: which to their credit, the defense did do a very
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: good job. The defense in the first few opening lines,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: like the opening statement, it almost sounded like a prosecutor,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like he was like, really scolding, what fucking happened? So
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit. I watched the video on
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the speech. It was it was well done. Props that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: defense attorney, well fucking done. However, nothing in my mind
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: can excuse what Crystal did. Mental health, these issues are real. Yes,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I do understand that. However, a sixteen month old child
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: starved to death in a bed of their own soil
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: because their mental health lacked and she needed a vacation.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Excuse me. Fuck no, that's not an excuse. That's not
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a painting a picture of understanding. It does not excuse actions,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't make me understand positions what so fucking ever. Sorry,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: that was a bit of a rent on my end.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I know, well, my heart is just like so heavy,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: so heavy.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So Crystal also got up and did say a
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: few words. She did, of course speak Spanish, being her
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: main language, with someone translating for in the courtroom. I'm
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: not going to really talk too much about what she
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: had to say, but I will say that she did
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: say in her statement in court that God and her
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: daughter forgives her. I fucking doubt that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: You don't.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: You don't have the right to fucking say that. I'm sorry,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: you're just like, I'm very angry over this.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've now moved from the angry to
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: just like sadness. You're just like finger up, like just
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: like looks in your shit.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like you you make your sixteen year old
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: month daughter starve to death, and what you say a
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: couple hail Mary's and you're forgiving.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: You just think that you can be forgiven for that?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: That's something. I that's something.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Anyways, when everyone had their their turn to say a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: few words, it was finally time for the sentencing. Crystal
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Candelario was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: of parole and court judge Brendan Shehan had this to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: say to her. I remember when I said I had
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a quote to go along with you? Yeah, yeah, this
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: is it. Quote that judge. Just as you didn't let
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Jaylen out of her confinement, so too, you should spend
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life in a cell without freedom.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The only difference will be that the prison will at
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: least feed you and give you liquid that you denied her.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that like gives you goosebump. Say, yeah, I'm glad
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: that I'm not the only person that thought that way.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, the judge fucking said this in court, like
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that. Yeah, I want to applaud that, Jube
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like good for you. Yes, And that is the story
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of Jayleen Candelario.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: You know, and the whole time too, your presenting this
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: like like people struggle and can't have children, right like that.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: There are so many people out there that would have
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: wanted little jay Leen, right.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Someone would have fucking given Jayleen the world. Yeah, someone
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: would have loved her to the fucking moon and back.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Her mother didn't.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Well, Ben, oh my gosh, you could just like I'm
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I am, you could just saw like this is one
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of the most saddest cases.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I think, ever, it is I can't have met ten days,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: and I think that like the playpen, I didn't write
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: down the size. I had the dimensions at one point.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It's like like two and a half by four feet
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: this playpen, so like it's a standard playpen that you're
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: thinking of, right, that's her prison cell for ten days.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: She withered away.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, because when you had first like just
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: mentioned a little bit about the story, I was kind
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: of like, like it's terrible, like beyond terrible. But I
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, well, like maybe this little girl can
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: like you know, wander through the house of sorts, right
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and like find something to eat or whatever. Like they
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: she could have lived potentially, right, But then when you
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: said that she was in this like she can't get
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: out of the fucking playpen. No, like she can't get
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: out of the playpen.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: No, maybe this kid could have you're right, wandered through
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: found the dog food or the cat food, or the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: water bowl like something like that opened the drank out
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of something drinking the toilet, who knows could have served.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But she wasn't even given the chance to try and survive.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: She was imprisoned and abandoned without a second fuck, without
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: even a first thought.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: And you're right, like she obviously didn't think it, didn't
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: even think it through, because like I feel like if
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: she did, she maybe would have like left extra food
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: or water or something in the playpen. But like she
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: literally was just like completely oblivious. I do consequences.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I do want a preface. She might have left a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: bottle or something in the crypt or the playpen. I
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to load that playpen up with a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: lot of things.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: No, shit, here's a bottle, Like I know, there wasn't
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like extra food given. There might have been a bottle
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: or something given. That's it, if that happened at all.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's completely disgusting. It is so beyond comprehendible.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then to go into court and say that
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: my daughter forgives me.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you I'm sorry, but I would never be to
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: forgive something like this. I don't think. No, there's no way,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: because you're a complete monster one percent.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's why I was fucking pacing and
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: angry and walking away from my computer earlier today during research.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, can you understand a b now?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: M M, Yeah, Well, I was pissed off since going
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: to the gym about this case. So and I didn't
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: even know quite all the details. Yeah, it's a doozy
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: more than yeah, more so then.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: And Crystal hasn't even been behind bars for well since
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: her sentencing for six months, hasn't even made six months yet,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and she's got a lifetime to go.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And the thing too is like her parents probably would
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: have taken Jayleen.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Oh so I don't think they even knew of her
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: vacation or nothing.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Nope. Wow, Now I do want to touch on what
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you were talking about. What you were you You didn't
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: say anything about it, but the staring at my beard thing,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: re member, I was like, why are you staying with beard?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: And you're like, oh h Because I'm pretty sure it's
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: because she's an elementary school teacher looking after other people's kids.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was I to get my shit together during
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: this podcast because that that was jaw dropping that she
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: is a teacher.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yep, she is a fucking teacher.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Was a teacher? Was Yeah? When when I was processing
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of things at that moment, and I was
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: losing my cool inside big time. I know, I was
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: just apparently focusing on your beard.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: You were just fucking honed right in on it. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: was like, is there something in it? Like do you
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: have a spider crawling in it? Days there food?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: What?
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Man? Well?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just yeah, I didn't even know what to
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: say because I was just like, you gotta be kidding me.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: You have to be kidding me.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Of all things, she's a fucking teacher.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is also mind blowing.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a fucking monster.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I'm glad she's gonna be behind bars for the rest
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of her life because she fucking deserves it.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because they need to have her in there,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: take away food, take away like her sink, her toilet,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: like she can maybe have a bed, I guess, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: that be that her.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Bed only put the walls exactly around her bed, and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: she'll know exactly what her daughter.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Felt, like I know, and see how long she she lasts.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think she'd make it longer than her daughter did.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Bet you her daughter would make it longer.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Bet you.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Her daughter's stronger than her.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And sometimes I'm like, that's not even
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: like I don't even think that's unjustifiable to go about
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: doing something like, like, I know we can't do things
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: like that, but gosh, I just feel like it'd be
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: so good for her to get a taste of what the.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Hell you get what you deserve sort of thing, and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the eye for an eye, I feel ye, But then
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: there's that humanitarian part of you. It's like, you can't.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I totally get both sides of the picture, which is
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: definitely along the sides of the lines of like the
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: death penalty is should it be abolished? But it still
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: stands today, and like the debate on both sides of that, Like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I totally understand both sides of the coin, but.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: We can't be doing inhumane things like that.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: But I do agree that the punishment should fit the crime.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: And sometimes in our society, I don't feel that the
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: punishment fits the crime because the crime was so bad.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: The punishment is they got it too good. They have
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: it too because she's just gonna sit in prison for
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the rest of her life. Doesn't have to worry about
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: anything except, like, you know, the the quirks of inside prison.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I get you, it can be rough, don't get me wrong.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't have to worry abou where next meal
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: comes from. She doesn't have to worry about, you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: do I have water?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: She may be one of the inmates though that are
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: in slight danger for sure.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Probably actually most likely because people who do shit to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: kids are usually not treated well in prison. Yeah, and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: that's probably because, yeah, the crime that they committed does
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: not fit what their sentences right the point. But yeah,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: kir enough, how.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Could you do that to like a sweet little sixteen
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: month I was going to say year old, but a
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: sixteen month old.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: She was barely over a year, one year, four months?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, my heart. Oh well, yeah, you're gonna
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: need to to kind of I don't even know how
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: you recover from having a research that.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either, but we'll figure it out
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a way. We really got to figure out a nice,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: chill crime case. Maybe that's what I'm gonna do. I'm
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: gonna go on a tie rade here, and I'm gonna
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: try and find a good, funny, a lighthearted kind of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: crime case. If you know of one, shoot us an email,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: shoot us a message, or something like that. So maybe
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: we can do that one. I'm not guaranteeing it's happening
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: next episode or even the one after that, but soon
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: in the works. Plus, we also do have that October
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: coming up where we're gonna hit on some paranormals, some
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: like spooky, so it will be a little bit of
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a distraction that month too, But before then, we definitely
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: have to get a little bit of a lighthearted one
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: here too.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well done, Thank you.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. If you guys want to take a
• 50:33
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• 50:35
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• 50:38
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• 50:41
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• 50:43
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• 50:47
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• 50:52
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• 50:56
  Speaker 1: an indie podcast, it's us producing, us researching, it's only
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: us taking care of everything.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you can go and watch me staring at
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Ben's beard like trying to figure out how I'm going
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: to get through this.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: You'll see my face of utter confusion, like what's going on?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, until next time, stay wicked.