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Hannah’s Haven - Saying Yes? · The Cattitude Diaries

• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: No matter the story, that's what we do.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: We rescue, rehabilitate, and rehome vulnerable cats and kittens at risk of euthanasia.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: Text us on 0422-928-492 to find out more.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Hannah's Haven.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Hi and welcome back to episode two.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you everybody that tuned in to the first episode.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: I was aiming for just 10 listens and it's been absolutely smashed, and that's something I never expected.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you, each and every one of you.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited about this little side quest.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um the feedback has been pretty positive.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: But one thing that puzzles me, nobody has officially come forward with a correct answer for our code word competition.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, we had a code word.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to have another one this week, so you'll actually have two chances, but you need to text after you've listened to each episode, text me through a name of one of the cats that we are speaking about within the episode.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: So episode number one, nobody has come forward to claim that yet.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: So keep that in the back of your mind.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: I also wanted to have a chat to you a bit more about our first ever community day that is happening on the 10th of October.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to be securing the space from 10:30 a.m.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: until 1.30 p.m.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: There will be street parking available.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: There is also a couple of car parks from a school just around the corner that is within walking distance.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Now the location is going to be at Cat Lovers Veterinary Clinic in 18 Overport Road in Frankston.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Our beautiful vet team there has graciously opened up the space for us to use, and they're also going to provide some one-on-one pet advice and health checks for anybody that registers through their interest, and we can book you into the system.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're also going to have a sausage sizzle and cold drinks available on the day at$2 each.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: All money raised will be going back towards the care of the cats that are within the haven.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: We're also going to be offering free microchipping for anybody that needs it for any animal.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: We would much rather that those animals get a chance to come back home to you than to end up in a system where they are just no longer respected, needed, or wanted, unfortunately.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: Also available on the community day will be free health advice from our vets and the team.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to be offering free nail cutting.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the day, we just want everybody to have a great time and come together.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: Anybody out there that is a little fan of Miss Willow, our special needs kitty, she's going to be making a special appearance all the way from the other side of the state with her mama.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: But they've promised that they will be there so everyone can come along and have a little bit of one-on-one time with the lovely Willow.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: And we are hoping that we're going to have a couple of cats that are ready for adoption available to meet and cuddle with at the clinic.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: So hopefully we can get them into some homes because they have been waiting.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, this episode, we are going to be focusing on quarantine versus intake and what that means, the differences, and what it actually takes for us to say yes to taking on a stray or a cat that doesn't have anybody of their own, what's involved and what we need to do on our end to make sure that it's as smooth as possible and at the end of the day the cat can get a chance to be loved and in a home where it's going to live forever safely.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sit back, relax, take a listen, and as usual, if you've got any feedback, we'd love to hear from you.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: Our email is info at hannershaven.com.au.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's info at hannershaven.com.au and you can reach us by texting 0422 928492.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's to register your attendance at our open day to win your own t-shirt, some of the merch from Hannershaven.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: And any other questions that you'd like to know.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's ask the vet, any advice, just general questions that you have a bit of trouble trying to find if you do a Google search.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_01: A big thank you again to Marie, one of our lovely foster carers, for coming along and helping out with the content of today's topics, which we are hoping you can get a bit of education from as well.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: What is the difference?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: So tell me, when you get animals, what's the what what what happens?
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Right, in order to say yes, there's a few things.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: First, we need to have the space, we need to have the time available to be able to re rehabilitate them, we need to have the funds available for anything that pops up.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um now insane space that could be as much as they have to quarantine in a crate for their two weeks because they could be at risk of spreading something to the cats that are already in care, or vice versa.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and especially if they've come in as a straight, there is no medical history.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know where they come from, we can only approximate the date of birth, we don't know what they've been exposed to.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we do a two-week quarantine period because within the 10 to 14 days, if there's anything, it's when it's gonna come out.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: So even if they're exposed the moment five minutes before we pick them up and take them in, that exposure is still valid, and that's gonna come out within 10 to 14 days.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so usually within that time period, we know if we're gonna have to keep our eyes open for you know little telltale sides.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: We've been so so lucky um since we did our massive, massive clean out in when was it, 20 2024?
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: We've been so lucky that we haven't had to deal with any of those horrible diseases and stuff.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: Also put that down to um the donation of the crates that we were given by a previous vet.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um the stainless steel was stainless steel, you know, they can't reach each other from side to side, all that kind of stuff.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: So they've made a big difference as well.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: But it's also education, like I try and educate people and say, you know, you gotta imagine that every single germ that you come into contact with is a colour on your clothing, right?
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got red for cat flu, you've got green for fleas, you know, and then if you've been and looking at all these other cats and then you want to come and meet another one, gotta kind of keep in the back of your mind that every single cat that you've touched previously, whatever they have, they might not have anything, but still, it's you're bringing you're carrying that with you to the next one, and then to the next one, to the next one.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I think I have changed things up as well with making the space available for specifically meet and greet, so it's like you're not bringing all those potential pathogens.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's like the the risk of you bringing anything into a vulnerable cat is very slim because the cat that you're coming to meet has already had their vet work done, they've already done their quarantine, they've done everything, so I know that they're safe.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's that's just yeah, that's a whole big thing.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: So the quarantine is at least 14 days.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: So say on say day 10, they're displaying signs of you know an illness or something, their count starts back at day one.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, right, okay.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: They have to have a two-week period of clear clear health, yeah.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: So there's no de sexing, there's no nothing until they've had 14 days.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and it's not fair on their system either.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, 14 days it might sound like a long time, but if the cat's whole entire world is gone, that's the end of the world for them.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: They've got to learn to adjust, and that's why sometimes putting them into that crate for the two weeks, that's safety for them.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: They know that that's their space, they don't have to share it with everyone else.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: Getting back to your quarantine, yes.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: So this is no different to what I do in my house with the wardrobe and the ensuite, which is a lot bigger, they're in a reasonable size enclosure.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh it's kind of nice for them for the first few days to just have a small area and get to know and then bolt on a little bigger area.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I just went in um now, and you've got all these ginger kittens all over the floor roaming around, uh playing with the bigger cat, there's an I don't know, the the there's your cat, and then there's a bigger cat.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: So they all come out and they have their their playtime eventually, but uh yes, you need to make sure that nothing's gonna be spread around.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and especially with those littles, because they were bottle babies, so they didn't get mum's milk with all the antibodies and stuff in it.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so they're they're the most vulnerable, so I kind of think that's ground zero.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: So when a bottle baby or littles like that come in, they are completely separate from the rest of the house.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: They usually go to my room because nobody gets allowed in my room, because believe it or not, I'm actually allergic to cats.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was just the ones with the big fluffy fur.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's all cats.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: So ragdolls, chinchillas, bourmin, all of that, mm-mm.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because their fur's airborne, so I'm actually allergic to it, and I always say, What a way to go out, you know.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Doing what I love.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yes, but anyway, they go into my room because they're feeding every two to three hours, and then once they've hit about six, seven hundred grams, they're usually put into my room.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Then when they get to about seven hundred grams, they get a vax.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: That is when their two weeks starts.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: So their two weeks only starts from their very first vax.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: So when they have a vax, they need at least 10 to 14 days for it to get into their system.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: They're still not covered from everything, they can still get everything because kittens need to have three.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: They need to have three within three months because then that's going to protect them for what they need.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, however, because we did that deep clean and stuff, it took a long time for me to be able to feel comfortable in my mind as well that my house was safe, um, and let them run around because I was just terrified, you know.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: There was the ringworm here for so long.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's like you get rid of it and you turn around, somebody else has got it.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and with bottle babies too, we find that it lives dormant in their ears because mums aren't grooming them all the time, and because when we bath them, we don't wash their ears because it gets infected.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: So, usually they have that first vax, and then boom, it's like overnight you wake up and you're like, What the hell happened to you?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: They just look all motley and you know, you've got these big bits of fur missing.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_01: So then that's something that you then have to keep doing because then you've got to protect yourself.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, in my room where I have my en suite for the bathing and stuff, they get their Medicaid bath wash, then I have to have a shower and change my entire clothes.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not unusual when I have bottle babies and say they've got ringworm and stuff that this is just to make sure it's all off you before you go and touch the bottom.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Because if I walk out to the other end of the house where the kittens are, boom, that could that that's it, everyone's got it, and I'm back at ground and you know, so I could be changing clothes like five or six times a day because I need to just decontaminate and stuff.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: So there's all these things, and this is why we get so upset when people are asking us for help, and we've got it, we can't just say yes or no straight away, it's like we'll get back to you, and then you know there's the people that are yelling and screaming and saying, 'Why do you call yourself a rescue if you're not gonna help with a rescue?' and it's like there's so much that goes on behind that yes or no that you're never gonna understand, and it happens all the time, like you go into the vet, people say, 'I've got a stray,' and they say, Sorry, we can't help you, you have to do XYZ.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want to do it, they just want to pass the problem off to us.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's it's really hard.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And at the start, when I first started, because I hadn't been taught the way you know how to do things the right way, there were a lot of things that we had to learn on the fly, and I've made it my purpose to go and educate myself as much as I can.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I've done online courses for decontamination and um how to treat ringworm and all of that kind of stuff, just so that I know that I've got that knowledge, right?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I can treat them now.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess, and the other thing is to if you've got a foster and they come out in ringworm and stuff, I can't just give you another foster, take the one back with ringworm and give you another one.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: We have to decontaminate your space, so it's just a whole lot of different things that I guess this is why I'm doing this because people need to get behind the scenes because you can see the cute fluffy kittens on the photos and read their stories.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: But what actually goes behind that is there's a there's like so much, there's so much paperwork to do.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and then unfortunately, you can do everything right, and they still don't survive, and it's not through anything that you've done, it's just the life that they've been dealt, you know.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: They could be born from a mum that's young, she doesn't have any vaxxers on board, she's got no immunity herself, she hasn't had access to proper food, so she's very malnourished, then the kittens are malnourished.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, mum could be full of worms that passes the worms and the parasites on through the birthing process.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: So these are all things that we have to, you know, put in the back of the mind before we can say yes, especially with the pregnant mum.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yes, they could be nice and friendly when they're pregnant, but then as soon as they have their babies, they become so protective that they will try and rip your face off because that's them trying to protect their babies.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: And we don't know have humans come along and taken their babies from them before?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, okay.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Has an animal come and taken their babies before?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's all of these things.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's why if we give them a safe space, we can learn from each other.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like they can know that I'm a safe person because I'm the one that's changing the litter boxes, checking on the babies, feeding them their food and stuff.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and and you do you get a connection with them, and it's like I'm I'm a sook at the best of times, so you know if my babies get adopted, I'm gonna cry.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: I always cry.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Whether it's yeah, I always cry.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like I love my babies.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, some of them I'm like, bye, see you later, good luck, and you go, Oh thank god.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Only because they've probably just been a lot of work.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, or you've got somebody like Lonnie that is an absolute velcro cat and he will not give you five seconds peace.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um that for me that's smothering, I can't deal with that, especially when you've got like ten other cats that are demanding your attention.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: So Lonnie was one of my uh foster cats, and uh I had had him for um some time and he was incredibly loving, you know.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: He'd sit and watch TV with you, and um he just wanted your company, he was in the same room as you.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for a while there I was thinking that he and Mal were gonna be bonded together because they would curl up together, they were very loving.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yes, it was time for Mal to come back and me to take a more needy one, and so um, yes, but Mal was very just everyone's dream cat, I would imagine, if you're looking for a cat.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he was lucky because they came back here for a little bit, and um Malik got adopted for um a lovely family.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's quite a few kids, so he's never gonna be needing love.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna have lots of hands to love him.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And Mr.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Lonnie got himself adopted.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so they came to meet somebody else, and it was some girls, and then they came with their mum, and the mum, no interest in other cats.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then Lonnie's like, hang on a minute, I'm making it my mission.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: And over the course of about 20 minutes, it went from no no no to okay, I can't leave without this cat.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so they adopted the one that they were going to adopt, and then they ended up saying, Well, can we take him too?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I don't think we have a choice, he's chosen you.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and living his best life.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: Love it, taking over the place, which we know he would have.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you again, everybody, for listening, and thank you again to Marie for the lovely conversation.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully there was something in there that you didn't know about previously that you've now learned.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um nothing better than education, as they say.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And good luck to each and every kitty cat and their new families that have left us recently.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: We love you all, no matter your story.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: As soon as you come through the door, you are loved, you are welcomed and wanted.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Don't forget that we're still waiting for our official winners to come forward for our code name competition.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: There is now two t-shirts up for Grab.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: We've got one from episode one and this one, episode two.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, you'll all come back to listen to the next instalment.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: And until then, take care, love your pets, and we'll see you soon.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Bye!