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Normally Podcast: The Left Versus Tesla Dealerships · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on normally the show What
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  Speaker 1: Normalist Takes for when the news gets weird. I am
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  Speaker 1: Mary Catherine.
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  Speaker 2: And I am Carol Markowitz. How are you doing, Mary Katherine?
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  Speaker 1: I am all right. You know I've taken up some crafting.
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  Speaker 1: How do you do? Yeah, I'm doing. I learned how
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  Speaker 1: to latch hook, which is like the super tacky seventies
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  Speaker 1: form of like embroidery that's like real fuzzy, like a
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  Speaker 1: shag carpet. And I'm gonna make myself a really ugly
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  Speaker 1: pillow and then I'm gonna put it on my couch
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  Speaker 1: and my husband's gonna be like why, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like, that is homemade. Yeah, I'm going to love it.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to learn to love it. I golfed this
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  Speaker 3: weekend for the first time ever.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that have you golfed? I do not golf.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wish I could, but I've never really taken.
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  Speaker 2: It up, so it was my first time. I had
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  Speaker 2: a really fun time.
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  Speaker 3: And I know we joke about me being soft in
• 0:59
  Speaker 3: the Florida weather, but I was like in a little
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: outfit and it got like seventy degrees in windy and
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  Speaker 3: I had to had to leave. I had to leave
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  Speaker 3: the course because I was so cold, like through my
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  Speaker 3: bones cold. I'll just say I was with some northern
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  Speaker 3: friends who were visiting and they were cold too.
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  Speaker 2: Just so everybody knows, I'm not okay.
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  Speaker 1: Not the window, the window get you. I am really well.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Hat would be proud of both of us for
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  Speaker 1: doing offline activities. Yes, look at us.
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  Speaker 2: We touched some grass.
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  Speaker 1: We did. I'm gonna touch my shag pillows soon. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be great. I'll show you guys what I've done.
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
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  Speaker 3: So Over the weekend there was also some more Tesla violence.
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  Speaker 1: I saw offline activity.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, offline touching grass, but in the violent sense activity.
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  Speaker 3: These protesters are getting progressively more violent, and of course
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  Speaker 3: all the Democrats are calling them out on this, because
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  Speaker 3: that's sorry, I couldn't even finish that thought. No Democrats
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  Speaker 3: are calling them out on this, or very very few
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  Speaker 3: are in any case. But I saw an old lady
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  Speaker 3: get assaulted. I've seen multiple Tesla's get defaced and keyed
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  Speaker 3: and that kind of thing, which is it's sort of
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  Speaker 3: getting to wear. These people might just be really dumb
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  Speaker 3: because Tesla's have eight cameras on them, and every one
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  Speaker 3: of these incidents is being like videoed from multiple angles.
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  Speaker 1: So they have they have cameras that activate when you
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  Speaker 1: vandalize them. Guys that're like, hi, we're checking on who's
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  Speaker 1: doing this. It's so good, great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's getting bad and scary, and the media
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  Speaker 3: is also I can't even deliver the joke they're on
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  Speaker 3: it because instead they're they're largely saying that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Tesla's wearing a real short skirt. The Washington Post had
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  Speaker 3: a headline, Trump escalates threats against those who destroyed Tesla,
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  Speaker 3: Like Trump is escalating the thoughts Trump.
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  Speaker 1: There's also this straw man that like, hey, Elon Musk
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  Speaker 1: can't ex expect to be you know, incendiary and uh
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  Speaker 1: and political, and by that I mean like not literally incendiary,
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  Speaker 1: like the the things that people are throwing it as cars,
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  Speaker 1: and not expect people to have an objection. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about an objection. I don't think I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Elon Musk cares about protests or boycotts, right,
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  Speaker 1: those are within your rights. Vandalism is a very different thing.
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  Speaker 1: So that's not There's a lot of stuff that's not
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  Speaker 1: just protesting going on here.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I have boycotted companies in the past. I
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  Speaker 3: haven't fire bombed anybody. I haven't assaulted anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't even cursed.
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  Speaker 3: At anybody in the street who was using the product
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  Speaker 3: that I didn't like. Because that is a crazy thing
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's a crazy thing to do, right.
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  Speaker 2: And they just think they're so right. It's it's really crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm nervous because this kind of thing obviously conspire a
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  Speaker 3: lot of control.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody can actually get very badly.
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  Speaker 3: Hurt, and then we're all going to be like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: this we saw this coming the whole time, and nobody
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  Speaker 3: did anything, and so I am worried about it.
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  Speaker 1: And well, you and I have lived through various right
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  Speaker 1: leaning protest movements that are treated completely differently than lefty
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  Speaker 1: protest movements. If you just take the tea parties versus Occupy.
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  Speaker 1: Occupy had no permits to be anywhere, was living in
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  Speaker 1: parks for months on end. There were sexual assaults and
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  Speaker 1: other assaults happening on the grounds pretty frequently, even some deaths,
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  Speaker 1: huge crimes happening. Just people live in in parks all
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  Speaker 1: around this great nation and that was like beautiful and empowered, right,
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  Speaker 1: But Tea Party folks go out to an event and
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  Speaker 1: like clean up after themselves and like the Republic is
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  Speaker 1: going to fall, and so the difference in treatment is
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  Speaker 1: really bad. Another example is the twenty twenty protests. So
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  Speaker 1: people who protested lockdowns by driving their cars around cap
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  Speaker 1: and honking their horns because they were still abiding by
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  Speaker 1: the basic rules of like we're not going to congregate.
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  Speaker 1: Those were the end of the Republic. But the George
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  Speaker 1: Floyd movement that became riots aoka.
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  Speaker 3: It's mostly peaceful, right wild.
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  Speaker 1: How they're treated. I just want to give you a
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  Speaker 1: stat real quick. I was reading an NPR story entitled
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  Speaker 1: from Seattle to Miami, anti Musk protesters gather at hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of Tesla locations. Can you guess for me what paragraph
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  Speaker 1: this piece addresses the violence? Never it does actually get
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  Speaker 1: into it.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Good, twentieth paragraph, twentieth paragraph. Some of the anti Musk
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  Speaker 1: backlash has been violent. Tesla vehicles, dealerships, and charging stations
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  Speaker 1: across the US and in Europe have been the target
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  Speaker 1: of arson and vandalists. Some have taken to spray painting
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  Speaker 1: Schwasta because on Tesla sedan's and cyber trucks. It then
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  Speaker 1: goes on, wait for it, it then goes on to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that they make the leaders of these protests
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  Speaker 1: the victims, because Musk, by objecting to the violence, has
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  Speaker 1: raised the cost for the organizers of these protests because
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  Speaker 1: some people might think they're involved in the violence, and
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  Speaker 1: if those specific people aren't involved in the violence, then
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  Speaker 1: he's being irresponsible and he has caused problems for them.
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  Speaker 2: His skirt really is that short?
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  Speaker 1: I mean the reversing victim and offender is like amazing,
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  Speaker 1: pretty priceless on this one.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, like the thing is that the Trump administration
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  Speaker 3: keeps referring to this as domestic terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get rid of the word domestic. It's
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  Speaker 2: just plain terrorism.
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  Speaker 3: It's trying to get a political outcome through violence, through
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  Speaker 3: violence intimidation, very standard definition of terrorism. When we say
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  Speaker 3: domestic terrorism, it makes it sound like not as bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's not foreigners trying to hurt us, it's internal It's
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  Speaker 3: literally just the dictionary definition of terrorism. And I think
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  Speaker 3: the punishments need to get severe for this because you
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  Speaker 3: can't have a society where people think it's okay to
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  Speaker 3: harm other people because they don't like a third person's opinion.
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  Speaker 3: I just think we've gone to a crazy place and
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  Speaker 3: this needs to be cut off at the knees.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I saw someone objecting because Florida categorized
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  Speaker 1: some vandal vandalism as a felony, and it's like, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see when that happens, fewer people do the very expensive
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  Speaker 1: vandalism in the future. That's how that works. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, it's not just the cars. They're going after
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  Speaker 1: the owners of the cars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Who, I don't care if they're liberal. You should a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them are. You shouldn't be assaulting them or
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  Speaker 1: coming at them in public.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get to.
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  Speaker 3: Just be a little angry child either yelling or hitting
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  Speaker 3: people in the street.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We have a society.
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  Speaker 3: There are rules, so yeah, and I think the more
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  Speaker 3: we accept, the more we get bad behaviors. So this
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  Speaker 3: really needs to be a wrong message needs to be sent.
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  Speaker 3: This is unacceptable, this is terrorism. This is something that
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  Speaker 3: is going.
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  Speaker 2: To be stopped, and I hope the Trump administration does that.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and come right
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  Speaker 3: back with normally.
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  Speaker 1: All right up next, we have lefties gone wild.
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  Speaker 2: Oh the lefties.
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  Speaker 3: They are so close, so close, so close to getting it,
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  Speaker 3: but never really quite there.
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  Speaker 1: Left he's gone wild or is it left, he's gone right.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of what it feels like in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of these situations.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. And we're not going to be bitter
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  Speaker 3: about it, Mary Catherine much. We're not going to be
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  Speaker 3: bitter much that they're saying all the same things we've
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  Speaker 3: been saying for like generations. But let's start with your
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  Speaker 3: buddy Bill Maher. You're on his shows sometimes and you
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  Speaker 3: guys have a cute relationship. I think you're you have
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  Speaker 3: a friend, friendly back and forth in general. And I'm look,
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  Speaker 3: I am a fan. I enjoy watching him. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's smart at I think he says smart things. He's
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  Speaker 3: going to have dinner with President Trump. And apparently Chris
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  Speaker 3: Rock set this up, which is it was kid Rock.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yes, kid Rock set this up.
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  Speaker 2: No, Chris Rock had nothing to do with it. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: Chris kid Rock set this up.
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  Speaker 3: And it's kind of cool that they're getting together.
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  Speaker 2: Trump, however, had some things to say about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he has a truth post where he says, I
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  Speaker 1: got a call from a very good guy and friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine, Kid Rock, asking me whether or not it
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  Speaker 1: would be possible for me to meet in the White
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  Speaker 1: House with Bill Maher, a man who has been unjustifiably
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  Speaker 1: critical of anything or anyone Trump. I really didn't like
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  Speaker 1: the idea much and don't like it much now, but
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: thought it would be interesting. The problem is, no matter
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  Speaker 1: how much he likes your favorite president, me, he will
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  Speaker 1: publicly proclaim what a terrible guy I am, etc. Very
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  Speaker 1: much like the Democrats at my recent address to the
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  Speaker 1: Joint Session of Congress, where I stated correctly that no
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  Speaker 1: matter what I said or did, they wouldn't stand, they
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't applaud, they wouldn't smile or laugh, and certainly it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be in any way nice. Who knows, though, maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'll be proven wrong, he says, anyway, I'm doing favor
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  Speaker 1: for a friend, so they're going to get together. I
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  Speaker 1: do like mar because I feel like he is one
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  Speaker 1: of the lefties in the Hollywood constellation. It's still like
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  Speaker 1: a left leaning guy for sure, who says common sense things,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: and that has made him a pariah to many of them.
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  Speaker 1: I like that he is unpredictable. You don't exactly know
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: where he's going. To fall on anything, which makes him
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: much more like a normy voter actually, and taking a
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  Speaker 1: moment to spend time with the President of the United
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  Speaker 1: States to probably have some vigorous debate I think is
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  Speaker 1: totally worth doing and something Democrats should have done since
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what drives me a little crazy about Bill Maher
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  Speaker 3: is that he is very tied to his identity as
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: a lefty, and it gets that.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I am very tied to my identity as a conservative.
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  Speaker 3: If I had if the conservative world went the way
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  Speaker 3: that the world went in the last few years, and
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: I had to kind of face that I couldn't. I
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: couldn't stand with these people anymore. And I still had
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  Speaker 3: the same beliefs, but I couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I could no longer exist with them. I think I'd
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: be challenged by that too. So I get it.
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  Speaker 3: But he's always like so close, but never quite there.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to play a clip of him talking to
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  Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom.
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  Speaker 2: Let's roll that.
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  Speaker 4: Given that we are in this dire situation, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like we don't have time anymore for the old bullshit,
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: you know, the old are you running for president? Well?
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: You know, there's an exploratory committee, and I'm looking at it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy with my job as governor. I mean, your
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: future is not in California. Your future is in Iowa.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just spends with the bullshit. We need someone who's
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: going to be the champion. Are you going to do
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  Speaker 4: it or not? Just come on tell us we don't
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  Speaker 4: have time for the bullship.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, I deeply respect that.
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  Speaker 7: I can't stand the bullshit as well, and I mean
• 11:58
  Speaker 7: that so look, but this is not my per or.
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  Speaker 6: Passion, it's not my meaning.
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  Speaker 7: It's not everything. Every the cynicism that's out there that
• 12:04
  Speaker 7: every movie's making is some move to some longer term
• 12:07
  Speaker 7: strategy or short.
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  Speaker 4: Term just that you're a guy who could do it,
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  Speaker 4: who could get it done? Who could will?
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  Speaker 7: I deeply respect that affect the question, but I don't
• 12:15
  Speaker 7: have any grand plans as it respects of that. I'm
• 12:16
  Speaker 7: trying to do the best I can and also trying
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  Speaker 7: to be accountable by the way. You want things to change,
• 12:20
  Speaker 7: you got to change, and that's what the podcast is about.
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  Speaker 7: That's my recognition of.
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  Speaker 8: Where we're weak.
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  Speaker 7: And I got to call balls and strike.
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  Speaker 3: Talking Gavin Newsom into running for president because they need
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  Speaker 3: somebody to like lead the charge.
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  Speaker 2: Gavin Newsome. Bill Maher spends a lot of time.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about what a hell hole California has come, and
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  Speaker 3: now he wants the guy who really turned it into
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  Speaker 3: that to run for president.
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  Speaker 2: I just I like him, he's smart. Well what is this?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's one yes. At any point has Bill Marvi
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  Speaker 1: been like, Hey, this guy's really good at his job, right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he thinks he's good at his job.
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  Speaker 1: I think he has a plot pausible chance in our
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: sort of ridiculous way we pick leaders and Democratic Party
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  Speaker 1: in particular in this case, to end up in that spot.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not good at his job. And despite whatever
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: you know, changing he's trying to do, he announces in
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  Speaker 1: that clip, and I think it's a symbol for Gavin
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  Speaker 1: Newsom that he doesn't like bs and then dispenses with
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  Speaker 1: tons of bs that in fact the exact bs that
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  Speaker 1: Mars said he wasn't looking for. Newsom was like, let
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  Speaker 1: me give it to you.
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  Speaker 3: It's really language that Newsom uses drives me absolutely bonkers.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to have another Newsom clip later, saw I'll
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  Speaker 3: save this for then, but wow, his like synergy, you know, mendacity,
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  Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: I just he is the absolute worst. I worry about him.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's a threat and a.
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  Speaker 3: Danger, and I could see him slithering his way into office.
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  Speaker 1: So not a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so, speaking.
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  Speaker 3: Of lefties who are facing some amount of reality, John
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  Speaker 3: Stewart was on with Ezra Kline, who has a book
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: out called Abundance.
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  Speaker 2: This book is like.
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  Speaker 3: Everywhere right now, and Democrats are talking to him about
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  Speaker 3: it as if the concepts in it are.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Kind of hearing about it for the very first time.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, the book has a lot of stuff
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: like it's a wake up call, right It's this democratic
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: policies aren't working, wake up call for the left. And
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: I am enjoying democrats kind of being faced with this,
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  Speaker 3: But like, how is this all news to them?
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of baffling.
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  Speaker 3: So let's roll part of a clip where Ezra talks
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: to John Stewart and he spends five minutes explaining how
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: states could participate in Biden's Build Back Better funding plan
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: and how impossibly difficult that was.
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  Speaker 2: We're only going to play the last minute or so
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  Speaker 2: of the clip.
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  Speaker 3: We just imagine four more minutes of this these bureaucratic
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  Speaker 3: rules that make no sense.
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  Speaker 9: States must run a competitive sub granting propose.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my fucking god. At step twelve, by after all
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: this has been done.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, none of that could have happened along the way
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  Speaker 9: here we have now lost seventeen more applicants. So now
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  Speaker 9: thirty of fifty six have completed Step twelve. Step thirteen,
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  Speaker 9: States must submit a final proposal. All the proposals weren't
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  Speaker 9: enough to NTIA. Now that goes to three of fifty six.
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  Speaker 9: So we've gone in the last couple steps from fifty
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: six had gone to this point to three of fifty six.
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  Speaker 9: Step fourteen, the NTIA must review and approve the state's
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  Speaker 9: final proposal, and that is three of the fifty six
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  Speaker 9: jurisdictions and states are there. In summary, Colin states are
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: nearly at the finish line, and it says to stop
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: their progress now, or worse, to make them go backwards,
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  Speaker 9: would be a stick in the spokes of the most
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  Speaker 9: promising broadband deployment plans we have ever seen.
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  Speaker 5: And the scene, Yeah, so I'm speechless, as honestly, like,
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  Speaker 5: it's a far worse than I could have imagined. But
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  Speaker 5: the fact that they amputated their own legs on This
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  Speaker 5: is what's so stunning.
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  Speaker 3: So for those listening to this only on audio, John
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  Speaker 3: Stewart's freaking out throughout this whole clip. He's clutching his head,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: he's walking around, he's like slamming things.
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  Speaker 2: He has never heard of this ever before.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: And Jim Garrity tweeted this clip with the comment, A
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: key part of being a conservative is not being wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but being right too early before it is socially acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: That gets really old.
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  Speaker 3: We laugh at the now it can be told, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: we do laugh about it, and we try to find
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: humor in the fact that we're right about things, you know,
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  Speaker 3: years ahead of the left. But the left goes through
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  Speaker 3: this every single time, and it's just tiresome. Like you
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  Speaker 3: just learned that government is a wasteful boondoggle just now
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  Speaker 3: on your show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I do think that they truly believe when
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you name something build back better or inflation reduction or
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act, many of them just think that's good enough,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: done and done. Now we have affordable care. Whereas another
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: instance of being right ahead of the curve, I was like, yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: this Obamacare thing isn't going to work out great for
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: people like me who are in this actual market because
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of these various very clear economic incentives. They're like, oh, yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what happens. So we need more subsidies to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: fix the problem that we created, right Like, it just
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: always ends up going this way, it feels like. And
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: then Klein is a bona fide recognized, prestigious liberal thought leader. Sure,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and yet he's always a decade or two behind us
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: on these things. Because I've been making this argument about
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: government since I was legit sixteen years old.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I looked around me and like reaganlin like, we're from
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: the government and I'm here to help.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Are the scariest words in the English language that I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: might not know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: This, I saw it in my own life. I looked
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: around me and was like, I think the things we're
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: doing to help people aren't actually helping people. And that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is how I became conservative. And if you haven't looked
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: at these programs, which you, by the way, if you're
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: an Azer client or one of these folks John Stewart included,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you cheerleaded the whole time without saying this is how
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: it should work to actually help people. There's another one,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, the Harris broadband roll out. The Wall
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Street Journal famously covered forty two point five billion dollar
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: subsidy zero things built, right, So yeah, and I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the thing they're missing that they can't admit about their side,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and this is like the USAID problem and all of
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the Doge stuff. The job was to get these people
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: paid who stand in the way of getting things built.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And when they did that, everybody was happy, yep.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: And nothing else needed to happen because.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: That was the whole goal. It's yep. Yeah, I don't know.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to give them grace for finally getting there
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: because so many people still haven't.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But you just know, the next time Democrats are in charge,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: they're going to revert right back to form.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, and we don't even have to wait for Democrats
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to be back in charge of the country.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Here's a clip of as reclined.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: He went on Gaven Newsom show so to bring this
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: full circle to talk about the bad policies in blue states,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: and he still ends up being very gentle with Gavin
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Newsome and saying, you know, as he basically says to
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: his face that Gavinus's policies are failure.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: But he's also giving him kind of leeway to.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Say, well, this does happen in Red states too. Let's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: roll the clip.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Localism is determinative, and you pick on understandably San Francisco,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: but you can look at almost any city, including a
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Republican healt city like Huntington Beach, and the same rules
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: and restrictions apply there in the same frustrations. So from
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: the prism of left versus right, you take the shot
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: against liberals. But can't we argue that there is sort
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: of quality of consideration and nimbism that persists in rural
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: and red parts count.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: Well, let me flip this because to shadow box around
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: the fact that you know more about California governance than
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: I ever will in a thousand years ago in this
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: would be ridiculous. Why is it easier to build homes
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: in Texas and California.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: They have Well, you established that in the book in
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: Houston you make the point I think it was seventy
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: thousand permits in twenty twenty three, just seventy five hundred
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: in a much smaller city, San Francisco, but understandable contract
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: the city with more demand, more demand, and it's simply
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: because they have no zoning. They have land use consideration
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: has zoning, yeah, but not Houston in the context of that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: The thing I'm getting it here, which I really would
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: like your the thing you just said right about localism.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: It's so important and like this is so much the
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: conversation I'd love for us to have here because the
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: texture that you have been grappling with of why do
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: things that you want to have happen not happen is
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: I think a really interesting thing to add to it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: But when you're saying, well, you know, is this really
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: a problem for liberals. It's easier to build in Texas
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: and Florida. They're not just in California, but in California
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: or New York. Right, the cost of living crisis is
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: worse in blue states. And a little bit of that
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: is Blue states are a place a lot of people
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: want to live, but you should be able to in
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: places governing for the working class in theory and coin.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Is a point and just to level set, people are
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: listening completely agree this notion of the supply demand imbalance.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: I mean you're making an econ one to one argument,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: and that supply to imbalance is next level in the
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: state of California, which is simply not building enough housing.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: And that goes to I mean and you correctly identify
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: nimbiism and people, you know, incumbent protection rackets, so to speak.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: When Ezra Client says to him that the things that
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom want to happen are not happening, that's bad policy.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: What he is describing are policies that don't work. And
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: they could talk whatever they want around the subject. They
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: could pretend that it's just a coincidence.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, just because people really want to live in Blue
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: states and that's why they don't have enough housing. It's
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: just like supply demand econ one on one problem. Red
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: States saw far more internal migration from other from Blue
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: states during.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: The pandemic than the other way around.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: So spare me the supply demand. Red States figured out
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: a way to provide that supply. Your policies are bad,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: your ideas are bad. You need to move on from
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the things that don't work.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Can I just throw so many bs liberal speakers, localism
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: is determinative and level set. And my favorite, which is
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: like Client euphemizing what he's doing. When you're dealing with
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the texture as a texture, you've made decisions that have
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: been bad that have created this problem. And look, I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: do appreciate that someone like Klein is looking at the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: situation and going ooh, even though I'm sort of arguing
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: against interesting against my party. The thing we are meant
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to be doing is fixing the cost of living, is
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: building housing that we purport to once to build houses
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: so that people can have places to live and it
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: can be more affordable. And we are not doing that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: thing emphatically. He's communicating that over and over and it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: making a lot of people on the left mat. Yes,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: he's very late to it, and yes he cheerleaded for
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: many of these things, including the regulations. But like the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: way they're having this conversation, Yeah, totally ignores the fact
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that we're having a national conversation on the right and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: inspired by the action of Oh, that's right, Doge, that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: conceding the same thing and trying to fix it by
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: doing an audit of these federal programs, and they are
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: so up in arms about it. Brett Baer on Fox
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: News did a long form thirty minute interview with the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Doge guys, who I think should have been doing They
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: should have been doing their rollout this way earlier, just
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: having these very sober, calm engineers and billionaires talk about
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: what they're doing, because it inspired some confidence and it
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: makes the pitch, just as as reclient is making that
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: if these programs don't work because they're big and misused,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you get worked over and we don't want that. So
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: this is what we're doing to fix it. I think
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: they should invite Ezer to be part of Doge's invoke
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that language and be like, you know what, I think
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: we have an ally here right right?
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, our last clip in this section, we can't
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: not play it. But Catherine Mayher she I think that's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: how she pronounced it or was it really good mar?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not sure, but it's not. It's not
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: mar like Bill Maher. But it's all the same. Okay,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: sorry if I'm getting that wrong. But she is the
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: CEO of NPR or the head of NPR. I don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: they call it the CEO. And she was grilled by
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Congressman Brandon Gill from Texas. And let's roll that clip
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: in case you haven't heard it yet.
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy?
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: I believe that. I tweeted that and as I've said earlier,
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: last half decade.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: It has evolved. Why did you tweet that?
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: be able to say.
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: Okay, do you believe that America believes in black plunder
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: in white democracy?
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: I don't believe that, sir.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: You tweeted that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: It's reference to a book you were reading at the time,
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: apparently The Case for Reparations.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: You tweeted about it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: You said you took a day off to fully read
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: The Case for Reparations. You put that on Twitter in
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: January twenty twenty.
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: I apologies. I don't recall that I did. I'd no
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: doubt that your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall.
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: Okay, do you believe that white people and inherently feel
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: superior to other races?
• 26:34
  Speaker 11: I do not.
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: You tweeted something to that effect. You said I grew
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: up feeling superior.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: Ha how wide of me. Why did you tweet that?
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: I think I was probably reflecting on what it was
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: to be to grow up in an environment where I
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: had lots of advantages.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: was just reflecting on my own experiences.
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: Do you think that white people should pay rep.
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: I have never said that, sir.
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: Yes you did. You said it in January of twenty twenty.
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, Yes, America, Yes,
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: our original collective sin and unpaid debt. Yes, reparations, yes
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: on this day.
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: What kind of reparations was it a reference to.
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: I think it was just a reference to the idea
• 27:21
  Speaker 11: that we all owe much to the people who came
• 27:24
  Speaker 11: before us.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It is a bizarre way to frame, which is we
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: all know what she was doing. We all know that
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: she could just say twenty twenty it was a crazy time,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know. But she's not.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: She's saying and her mannerisms are like, who would believe
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: this ridiculous stuff.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: That you're saying.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: By the way, if the girl you believed it, it'd
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: be one thing. If she was like a twenty something
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: when she traded this, and now she's a forty something
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: CEO whatever. Even then, I'd be like a kind of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: stupid and you should answer for them. But she was
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: thirty nine. Yeah, I think when she tweeted it, this
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is not decade, she was like between thirty seven and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: thirty nine years old, Okay, and she's like, oh gosh,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: where where did that come from? I mean, it is wild.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I would say it is peak liberal white lady to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: really say in January of twenty twenty that you're taking
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the day to fully absorb an important book about reparations
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and then have to admit under oath you did not
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: read that book at all. Amazing.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind to read the books.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Come on, like, no, that's what I said. The books
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: were for the zoom background, they were for reading, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they were for signaling. She was signaling at that time
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: it was advantageous to signal that, and now it's become
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: crazy to signal that, so she has to signal something different,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and she just wants to skip over her own reparations
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: for the fact that she was a crazy person in
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty and now is trying to act like, by
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the way, The other thing she said was that MPR
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: has absolutely she's never witnessed political bias in selection of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: stories at NPR. And someone confronts her with Uri Berliner,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: who left NPR for Free Press, with his stat that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: eighty seven of the DC based editorial positions were Democrats,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: zero Republicans, and she persisted in saying you did persist. Yeah, nonetheless,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: there was no bias. And that is just impossible, incredible,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: not worth listening to.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And the five years she's going to be like, who
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: said that? What that was half a decade ago.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: These are supposed to be the thought leaders, right. That's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the thing that they pile on top of this that
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: makes me so angry is that they're still sitting there like, well, well, well,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in the pristine timing of a lefty, I have come
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to the same conclusions that you came to with the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: very obvious evidence in front of you five years ago,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: whether it's lablic theory or regulation or bias it in PR,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: or the stupidity of twenty twenty. And they're like, now
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it can be told. And even though you were right
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: five years earlier, I still think you're stupid and below
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't appreciate it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I think that again, we'll laugh it off, but it's wrong,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: it's wrong. Yeah, we'll be right back on normally. All right,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: let's wrap up with a little bit of a later
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a later segment.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: We're gonna bring it up. We're gonna we're gonna share everybody.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Chapel Ron had some comments, and I think we're gonna.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Roll that clip. All of my friends who have kids
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: are in hell.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know anyone.
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: I actually don't know anyone who's like happy and has
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: children at this age. I have like like a one
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: year old, like three year old, four and under five
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: and under. I don't I literally have not met anyone
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: who's happy, anyone who has like light in their eyes,
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: anyone who has who has slept.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe they're not sleeping, but the rest of
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: it is just I you know, I just don't get it.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Because I heard this, I also I was her. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: even looked a little like her. I would say I
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: believed that having kids was a dead end and that
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it would be insane to have children who would want
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: to do something like that on purpose, Like that's insane,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: it's crazy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Obviously, it's so much better not to have kids. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: was so wrong. I was so wrong. It's indescribable how
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: wrong I was. How I have three kids, I wish
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: we had had four. We just literally ran out of time.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: And it's you know, I can't say every single day
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: is full of happiness, but every single day is full
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: of joy.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I wanted to talk about this because
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like you and I are good can be
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: good poster children for the fact that this is fun,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and that neither one of us coming up in our
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: twenties and early thirties with some sort of like tradwife aspirant, right,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like quite the opposite. You know, I always
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: thought I would have kids. I always sort of planned
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: to as a default, just because I loved growing up
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: with my brothers and I always wanted kids and to
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: them to have siblings. But it has been an unexpected joy,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I think because it is something that you don't experience
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: until you experience it. And I think a lot of
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: people say it's hard but rewarding, and that's true too,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to miss the part where I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: just have a ton of fun with my kids, right,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are hilarious and I enjoy hanging out
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: with them. Took them to the zoo this weekend, took
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: them to Mountain Mount Vernon last weekend.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I love Mount Vernon.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Just let them run around in a field and be outside.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And I hate that people like Chapelon aren't seeing that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: in their lives, and that the folks who listen to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: call her Daddy, which is the podcast this was on,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: will hear this from a very influential podcaster, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: podcast session with a woman that they look up to.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I just don't feel like they have the full information
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: about the fact that it can be just not just
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: rewarding and selfless, which it is, and that's a good
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: lesson to learn, but beautiful and fun and joyful.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Right she's twenty seven. She could clearly change her mind.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: At twenty seven, I was very I'm never getting married
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: or having kids.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I had this whole image of myself that I was
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: going to be a fancy old lady who wore full
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: silashes and smoked long cigarettes in the hotel.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: You can still be that, you can have it all, No,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: It turns out I could totally do that. I could
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: do that after the kids go to college like it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: going to be fine.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I think Chapel Road.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Let yourself change your mind if that's the way you go.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Don't hold on to belief so so strongly that you
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: have when you're young, because things can change at any time.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and oh, I wanted to say. I saw a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: piece in the Atlantic like two weeks ago that was
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in and I think it is one of the problems
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: with modern parenting and puts people in this place. It
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: was entitled like I tried baby lead weaning and it
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: almost destroyed my life. And this is just a philosophy
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: about how you get your kid from formula or breast
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: milk onto solid foods. Okay, it's not that big a deal.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You're overthinking it, right. If something like that almost destroyed
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: your life, I would say stop letting those decisions destroy
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: your life. Just do it or don't do it, right,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Not that big a deal. It's no a few weeks
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: of your life. I don't even remember.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I Like when people are like, oh, did you do
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: baby led weaning, I'm like, I don't even know.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Did I Like, is that what it was called? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. And one time I just started feeding them
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  Speaker 2: like baby food and that's that's what happened there.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, No, I just think people really get so
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  Speaker 1: in their heads and modern parenting is so the demand
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  Speaker 1: is that you be so hands on all times and
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  Speaker 1: entertaining them and like a pretty good dose of eighties
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  Speaker 1: nineties mom is what a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: For prearranged parenting. Make it happen well.
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