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The Late Debate | 25 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Place.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Danikity Georgio tonight, joined by cayleb Bond and Joe
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  Speaker 3: Hid to brand gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly sid Arthur or Martha on this show.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, so you could be Arthur and Martha if.
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  Speaker 4: I could want that, I could be both, and then
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  Speaker 4: i'd be they.
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  Speaker 3: Then indeed exactly, But you know what it is, Joe's
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  Speaker 3: because you're an all rounder.
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  Speaker 4: I am an all rounder.
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  Speaker 3: So you know we love to put you in the cricket. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: well actually I was.
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  Speaker 4: Actually I was equally bad at all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can't be good at everything, Joe. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we've got to be modest about the others. We've got
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  Speaker 3: to be modest out. We've certainly got to be modest
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  Speaker 3: about these things, all right, coming up tonight, Bob Hawk
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  Speaker 3: once said, any boss who sacks a worker but not
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  Speaker 3: turning up to work is a bum. Does the same
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  Speaker 3: sentiment apply for tomorrow's Soccer's World Cup match? The official
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  Speaker 3: opening of the Australian War All Memorials Redevelopment had a
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  Speaker 3: lengthy welcome to country, but it was missing one thing.
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  Speaker 2: The national anthem and the net.
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  Speaker 3: Zero fantasy is going real well in the UK in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of a record breaking heat wave and electric
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  Speaker 3: bus has burst into flames. But first Victorian teenagers who
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  Speaker 3: go undercover purchasing tobacco and alcohol to catch out dodgy
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  Speaker 3: retailers will no longer be deployed. The Herald Sun has
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  Speaker 3: confirmed the state has started rolling back all mystery shopping
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  Speaker 3: programs involving miners under the age of eighteen, and it
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  Speaker 3: concerns the children and their families would be targeted by
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  Speaker 3: underworld criminal gangs now. The initiatives have previously been run
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  Speaker 3: through local councils to catch retailers selling controlled goods as
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  Speaker 3: the tobacco war heats up, but this Mystery Shopping Minus
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  Speaker 3: program has already fallen well.
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  Speaker 2: Short of its targets. Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: Only one nine hundred and sixty two of a planned
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  Speaker 3: three thousand test purchases were completed in twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 3: to twenty six. According to Victorian budget papers. The number
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  Speaker 3: of test purchases was lower than the target due to
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  Speaker 3: safety concerns and a reduction in council participation. This measure
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  Speaker 3: is being discontinued to reflect changes in regulatory activity in
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  Speaker 3: line with other jurisdictions. Counsel insiders told the Herald Son
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  Speaker 3: the move to employ underage or pseudo underage people to
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  Speaker 3: undertake the job was once common, but it had simply
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  Speaker 3: become too risky.
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  Speaker 2: I've got two points to make on this bozarring.
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  Speaker 3: First, Firstly, I had no idea that they were putting
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  Speaker 3: teams undercover for this activity. What parent, in my view,
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  Speaker 3: is saying to their kids, no worries, haun feel free,
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  Speaker 3: will sign you up. You can go as a covert
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  Speaker 3: pseudo you know, undercover person when they know that the
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  Speaker 3: risks are involved, especially in the tobacco industry. And my
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  Speaker 3: other point that I would make is why hasn't the
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  Speaker 3: Victorian government just taken the bull by the horns sought
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  Speaker 3: this out. Caleb, maybe get on the phone, call the
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  Speaker 3: FEDS up, call Federal Labor and say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: We're done with the tobacco wars. We're done with the
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  Speaker 3: fire bombings of all these local stores. We are going
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  Speaker 3: to dump this tobacco excise and get a move on
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  Speaker 3: on this.
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  Speaker 1: Well. I don't disagree with you on that point at all.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I wrote a column today for news dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Dot you that said, get rid of the tax entirely,
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  Speaker 1: because well, we know it doesn't work. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: over the era Jim Charmers and Mark Butler and Julian
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  Speaker 1: Hill and Colego La la la la la. Would anyone
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  Speaker 1: suggests that maybe the tax is causing all of this.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't have a problem with the kids going
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  Speaker 1: out and doing these things. I think it's a real
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  Speaker 1: shame that they're having the heavies put on them by
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  Speaker 1: you know, Kazim Hamad and all these criminals down in
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  Speaker 1: Victoria going around knocking on doors. And he's now locked
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  Speaker 1: up in Iraq, thank god. But you know, I reckon
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  Speaker 1: honest kids trying to do their bit for the community
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  Speaker 1: and getting paid in the process to try and weed
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  Speaker 1: out elicit tobacco. They're solid citizens. I think that's fantastic
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  Speaker 1: that kids would be get going out there and earning
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  Speaker 1: a crust and doing their bit to try and combat
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  Speaker 1: the illicit tobacco trade in Victoria.
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  Speaker 4: You don't think that there are perhaps certain questions that
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  Speaker 4: might arise, just a few sort of red flags. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: at least on twenty one Jump Street, they were adult
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  Speaker 4: cops just pretending to be teenagers. But these guys are
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  Speaker 4: actual teenagers being used to conduct undercover six. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I want a thing I would have loved to have
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  Speaker 4: done when I was a teener, just how I know,
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  Speaker 4: it's batshit crazy. Anything you think is a good idea
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  Speaker 4: as a teenager is its?
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  Speaker 1: How fun would that be? And you're getting paid to
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  Speaker 1: basically be an undercover cop? I mean as a teenager,
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  Speaker 1: that would be wonderful. Maybe not so wonderful when you've
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  Speaker 1: got some you know, Middle Eastern crime gang figure door
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  Speaker 1: and saying I'm going to fire bomb you if you
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  Speaker 1: come around next time. But that might all be part
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  Speaker 1: of the fun.
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  Speaker 4: But how did anyone not see that coming? How on
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  Speaker 4: earth did anyone involve the counsel of the cops, whoever
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  Speaker 4: it might be, not say, hang on a minute. We're
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  Speaker 4: dealing with organized criminals here, organized crime. We're dealing with
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  Speaker 4: an industry that specialized. I mean, the only thing that
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  Speaker 4: it specializes in more than illegal tobacco and vapes is
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  Speaker 4: fire bombing. And who are we going to send at
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  Speaker 4: the coal face to test that? I mean, what if
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  Speaker 4: they got sprung?
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  Speaker 3: What if they But the other thing, the other question
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  Speaker 3: that I have is how are kids actually being enrolled.
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  Speaker 2: What's the process. Are they child actors or something? Are
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  Speaker 2: they signed up.
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  Speaker 4: To some sort of bond?
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  Speaker 2: You were you were a child, well you were a
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  Speaker 2: child actor?
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  Speaker 1: What were you were?
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  Speaker 3: You were just a child genius? This guy is an
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  Speaker 3: absolute genius.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we talk about Joe being able to do everything.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's actually.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about blow and smoke up me.
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  Speaker 2: Caleb was on ROD when he was younger. You may
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  Speaker 2: have been signed up as an undercovered.
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  Speaker 4: That's whys all for it, because he could have gone
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  Speaker 4: full method.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and you know, I believe that entrepreneurial spirits
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  Speaker 1: encourage and if the kids want to earn a crust
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  Speaker 1: by going out and doing their bit to weed out
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  Speaker 1: a list, I think that's a good thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come on, they're honest citizens. These are the kids that
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  Speaker 1: they've got a policing problem in Victoria. We know that
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  Speaker 1: they can't get enough coppers to sign up. So if
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  Speaker 1: we can get the sixteen year olds go and have
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  Speaker 1: a taste of being a copper before they go in
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  Speaker 1: as a job, how good is that?
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  Speaker 4: Why stop there? Just lower the age for becoming a
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  Speaker 4: police officer to sixteen or fifteen. If you can work
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  Speaker 4: at maccers. You can work on the back with the
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  Speaker 4: Victoria's a new slogan going into the election campaign.
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  Speaker 1: You probably might.
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  Speaker 4: Stop at backers kids. You can sign up boys, and
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  Speaker 4: it'll be like those little thing literally soldiers that the
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  Speaker 4: Nazis used to put on the uniforms at the end
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  Speaker 4: of World War Two.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think we we're in big trouble in
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  Speaker 3: Victoria to your point, Joe, when we've got twenty one
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  Speaker 3: Jump Street representing the crime wave.
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  Speaker 1: Look, they are, they are in big trouble. And I
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  Speaker 1: know we're making fun of all of this and saying, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: what are they? What were they thinking getting kids involved?
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  Speaker 1: But you know, and I've said this many times, I
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  Speaker 1: feel so sorry for the States in this situation because
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  Speaker 1: it's not their fault that any of this has happened.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, traditionally, and your good mate Chris
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  Speaker 1: Minds has talked about the fact the Excise has caused
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  Speaker 1: all of this, but you know, traditionally, an enforcement of
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  Speaker 1: all of these things he's been done by health bureaucrats
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  Speaker 1: because it wasn't a problem. You didn't need to get
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  Speaker 1: coppers to go in and deal with this stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you've got more than two
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  Speaker 1: hundred fire bombings across the country because the tax has
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  Speaker 1: gone up so much, which is caused by the federal government,
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  Speaker 1: and then the states are expected to spend the money
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  Speaker 1: to enforce it. So instead of cops, you know, dealing
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  Speaker 1: with murders and rapes and things, they're going around to
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  Speaker 1: tobacconists and telling them to shut up shop like that
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  Speaker 1: is very generous.
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  Speaker 4: But I've got the feeling that Victoria is just so utterly,
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  Speaker 4: utterly cooked as a state, as a government as there
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  Speaker 4: is that even if the federal government did nothing, their
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  Speaker 4: shops would just spontaneously give I just burst into flames
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  Speaker 4: of their own accord because you know, in a piece
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  Speaker 4: of kind of you know, theatrical representation of the state's
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  Speaker 4: economic position.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, maybe then I'll be able to rebuild
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  Speaker 1: in Victoria. But I think it's quite funny that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone goes, oh, big tobacco. Well, then the ABS recently
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  Speaker 1: found that eighty percent of the tobacco market in this
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  Speaker 1: country now is illicit. So it is in fact Middle
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  Speaker 1: Eastern crime games that are a big tobacco in this
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  Speaker 1: country these days. Now, if that didn't get you going.
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  Speaker 1: This one probably will. It'll make your blood boil, I suspect.
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  Speaker 1: On Tuesday there was the grand opening of the new
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  Speaker 1: five hundred million dollar atrium and Anzac hor at the
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  Speaker 1: National War Memorial in Canberra and there was a lengthy
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  Speaker 1: welcome to country that was given and went on for minutes,
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  Speaker 1: but curiously they did not play the national anthem. Very
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  Speaker 1: strange because the Opposition leader Angus Taylor was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Mark Levy on two GB he was equally perplexed.
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  Speaker 5: You're asking a bloody good question as to why it
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  Speaker 5: wasn't it should have been. This was an important event.
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  Speaker 5: It was a five hundred million dollar redevelopment of the
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  Speaker 5: War War Memorial, which is such an important memorial, and
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  Speaker 5: it needed to be a commemoration or a opening from
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  Speaker 5: across the Parliament with the support of everyone in the Parliament.
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  Speaker 5: And we didn't even have a national anthem.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is very odd any kind of major
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  Speaker 1: sporting event welcome to country, national anthem. I mean even
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  Speaker 1: at school assemblies you have the national anthem. You would
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  Speaker 1: think of all the places the National War Memorial where
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  Speaker 1: they opened up an Anzac Hall, you think would deserve
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  Speaker 1: the reverence of the national anthem, but instead they get
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  Speaker 1: a lengthy welcome to country, no national anthem. Something is
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  Speaker 1: really wrong here, well.
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  Speaker 3: Something is I actually find this quite offensive. The national
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  Speaker 3: anthem is something that we should be proud of, just
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  Speaker 3: as we should be proud of this country now, our
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  Speaker 3: ANZACs and soldiers who continue to fight for us, and
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  Speaker 3: who fought for us, they represented the land of the
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  Speaker 3: young and the free, as our national anthem has said,
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  Speaker 3: and I actually think this is very disrespectful to veterans
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  Speaker 3: that we didn't honor them in a way where we
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  Speaker 3: could all stand up at that event and sing in
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  Speaker 3: the national anthem, and yet people had to sit there
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  Speaker 3: as we all do politely and listen to a very
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  Speaker 3: lengthy welcome to country.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course there were indigenous people who fought in the
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  Speaker 3: war that that's not taking this away. But in the end,
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  Speaker 3: we have a national anthem for a reason, and I
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  Speaker 3: have yet to hear from the Australian War Memorial as
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  Speaker 3: to why it was omitted, and I think that they
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  Speaker 3: should actually give an explanation, given that this was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be the opening of their major redevelopment and nobody
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  Speaker 3: said anything.
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  Speaker 4: I suspect it's the sort of thing where it's not
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  Speaker 4: like they were singing other songs that weren't the national anthem.
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  Speaker 4: I suspect it's the sort of thing where they would think, well,
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  Speaker 4: this is an opening of a building, we don't sing
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  Speaker 4: the national anthem. Openings of buildings will have a welcome
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  Speaker 4: to cap we will have a welcome to country. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that is where the kind of thinking falls over,
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  Speaker 4: where they're just not reading the mood of them at
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  Speaker 4: the moment where people do feel like and again, I
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  Speaker 4: don't have any problem with welcome to countries. I welcomes
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  Speaker 4: to country either don't find them offensive or they don't
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  Speaker 4: trigger me at all. But there are clearly a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people who who do find that it's in some
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  Speaker 4: way infringing upon their sense of being truly Australian or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: So why on earth you wouldn't if you are going
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  Speaker 4: to have a welcome to country, also ensure that you
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  Speaker 4: have the national anthem as well. It just seems to
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  Speaker 4: me like more of and again, this would have been
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  Speaker 4: organized independently of the actual federal government, would have been
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  Speaker 4: organized by the War Memorial people itself, but just and
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  Speaker 4: a failure of our I don't want to cultural elites
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  Speaker 4: for one of a better term, or our institutions people
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  Speaker 4: at the top of the tree to properly appreciate, to
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  Speaker 4: properly realize just how much stress and anger and discontent
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  Speaker 4: there is simmering at the bottom. And again, this is
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  Speaker 4: something that the government needs to dress, but it's also
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  Speaker 4: something that all institutions need to address. I was talking
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  Speaker 4: to people, you know, just about, for example, the huge
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  Speaker 4: corporate buy into the Voice Reverend and just how toxic
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  Speaker 4: that was for people on the ground who just saw
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  Speaker 4: it again as being lectured to by people who were
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  Speaker 4: doing much better in life than them and then had
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  Speaker 4: the goal to sort of lecture down at them and
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  Speaker 4: tell and tell them what good corporate citizens they were,
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  Speaker 4: what progressive, you know, inclusive people they were, and that
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  Speaker 4: anyone who dared to question it was, you know, it
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  Speaker 4: was like Hillary Clinton would say, it deplorable. So I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a wake up call for everyone in every institution,
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  Speaker 4: public and private in Australia to realize that this kind
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  Speaker 4: of virtue signaling, if you like, not that you know,
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  Speaker 4: that is how it is seen. Even if I'm not
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  Speaker 4: particularly troubled by it, but that kind of stuff is
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  Speaker 4: becoming really really and I think if one nation has
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  Speaker 4: taught us anything, it's that Australians want to be able
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  Speaker 4: to be proudly Australian unequivocally and not be sort of
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  Speaker 4: lectured to on these sours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm also surprised that nobody's talking about this
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  Speaker 3: because it hasn't really been reported at all in the media.
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  Speaker 3: I only saw it on I think it was The
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  Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph's website. But I think that there should be
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  Speaker 3: actually more outrage towards this, and I think there would
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  Speaker 3: be a lot of veterans out there who would be
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  Speaker 3: highly offended as well.
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  Speaker 1: I take your point Joe that you know it's not
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  Speaker 1: customary to play the national anthem at the opening of
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  Speaker 1: a building, But of course it wasn't just the opening
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  Speaker 1: of a building. It's the war memorial rights, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a commemoration of those who have served and those who
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  Speaker 1: have given their lives to this country. And so you
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  Speaker 1: think if ever there was a moment where there is
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  Speaker 1: the opening of a building where you would take the
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  Speaker 1: time to play and sing the national anthem in deference
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  Speaker 1: to those who have served this country, that would be
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  Speaker 1: the time. Now, you know, Bayratzi should probably be God
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  Speaker 1: saved the King because that would have been that many
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  Speaker 1: people who gave their lives to this country were serving.
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  Speaker 1: But but you know, if ever there was a time
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  Speaker 1: for it, that was the time. And I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: that they either didn't think of it or deliberately omitted it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if I find it hard to believe that
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  Speaker 1: they would deliberately omit it like they thought about it, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do it, But why wouldn't they put it up?
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  Speaker 4: I can just guarantee you at every sort of organized
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  Speaker 4: corporate or high level departmental event or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 4: it is just so just baked into the running order
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  Speaker 4: that you start with a welcome to count it is.
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  Speaker 4: It is just like it is just a template where
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  Speaker 4: you take that thing, which.
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  Speaker 1: Means it's lost to me because it's just done it.
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  Speaker 4: But the national anthem is just not on that template.
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  Speaker 4: And someone again, someone should have had the wear with
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  Speaker 4: all to say, hang on a minute, this is the
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  Speaker 4: national this is the Australian War Memorial. We need to
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  Speaker 4: have the national anthem. But instead it was have just
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  Speaker 4: been yep, right, okay, yep.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look I know when we will be seeing the
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  Speaker 3: national anthem, and that is tomorrow at midday Eastern time,
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to be watching the soccer Wo's big
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  Speaker 3: World Cup match against Paraguay. Now, the timing of the match,
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  Speaker 3: it's in the middle of the day, and it's on
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  Speaker 3: a Friday, which got us thinking back to this very
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  Speaker 3: famous line.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you what, any bus who secks anyone but
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  Speaker 2: not turning up the day is.
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  Speaker 3: Above, yes, Bob Hawk nineteen eighty three, the America's Cup.
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  Speaker 3: But look, employers are so worried that people will indeed
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  Speaker 3: be taken as sicky tomorrow because of the Soccer's World
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  Speaker 3: Cup game. They're trying all new, different lucrative ways to
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  Speaker 3: try and make sure that you actually rock up at
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  Speaker 3: work and.
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  Speaker 2: Don't call in sick for the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Now, research actually by SBS World Cup Watches Right Association
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  Speaker 3: said fifty three percent of bosses agreed that workplaces should
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  Speaker 3: indeed make arrangements to let their employees what the soccer us,
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  Speaker 3: with one third of workplaces having booked a meeting to
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  Speaker 3: watch the clash.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the way of doing it. Book a meeting,
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  Speaker 2: book of teams.
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  Speaker 4: You might get a team to our mind to discuss
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  Speaker 4: the strategy of our key performance indicators going forward.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there were calls you might remember, for a public holiday,
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  Speaker 3: but they were denying. I think that's a bit over
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  Speaker 3: the top. I don't think you need a public holiday
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  Speaker 3: for this event. I think that's just too much. But
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  Speaker 3: businesses are doing live office viewings, and I actually think
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  Speaker 3: that that is fair enough. I don't think that productivity
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: will be particularly high around lunchtime tomorrow for the next
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: for the few hours.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: But you know, I understand people are patriotic.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Well, and I heard our good friend Paul Murray in
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the previous hour saying, you know, tomorrow midday, knockoff and
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: go and have an eighty star long lunch. And so
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I am here to announce that on Paul's advice, is
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: my colleague, that is what I will be doing tomorrow,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and so I would not be I will not be
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: present for the addition of the bond report at five pm.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the bosses will be perfectly happy with that,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: because Paul Murray told me, and now Denika is telling
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: me to do it as well. I mean, who's going
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to keep the wheels of this country moving? I hope
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: my producers, my producers don't get any ideas thinking that
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: they can slack off at midday tomorrow. We've got a
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: program to put to Okay, it's all right.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Get to the pub and if they win, no one's
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: coming back.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Well I hope that goes down all right with the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Sky News bosses. When I don't come back for the
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: show at five o'clock? What what are the things going
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to happen to me? If I don't come back for
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: my show at five o'clock? Back half cat and then.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: It's a time on the tradition.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I think I could do it quite well.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I need to stay You're honest, medication, but.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Nothing will change exactly the same.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Because you just don't want too much blood in your
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: alcohol stream? Is that you got lot? I live a lot.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: It's the last day of school as well. Kids took the.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Last day of school for me. I mean, where's where's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: my day off? If I don't put that play it
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: right ext.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: At five o'clock, everyone except famous TV hosts just get
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: out there. You can work. You make it up later.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: This is if Australia wins and we get through the finals,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: this is going to be this moment of incredible celebration
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: that we'll remember years to come and one day your
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: kids can say, Dad, is it true that you were
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: alive when Australia beat Paraguay and got to the final
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: thirty two of the World Cup. So yes, it was son.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: What did you do? I was in a teams meeting, Son,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Is that what you want to say?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: On? Actually? I do? I mean I think we should
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: revive the long lunch in general, and I do people do.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Hope people take the time to watch the game uncholutely bloody.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Industries are having long lunch.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: But this is the problem. I think there is a
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: direct correlation between in the decline of the long lunch
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and the decline of Western civilization.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: To be alcohol. You want a long lunch on a Friday?
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Look? No, well look, given that I now do a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: program on a Friday, yes it has become difficult. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the Friday long lunch. I mean,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: journalism was one of the few places left when I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: joined the industry teen years ago that you could still
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: drink on the job and occasionally get out for a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: long of which I was most appreciative. But you know
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that's I think we've got to get back to the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: eighties we've got to get back before we had fringe
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: benefits tax and we've got to get people out having
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: long lunches because it's good for the economy, it's good
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: for the workplace. It's where business gets done. And so yes,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I do hope people go out and watch the match
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and have a long lunch and get a few
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: schooners and wines and whatever into them. But I just
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: hope they think of me toiling away while they're doing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me ask you. Let me just ask
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you a very quick question.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Can we trust employees now to engulf and enjoy their
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: long lunch.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: While keeping productivity high? Literally you can, oh, look at
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: what's happened with work from home.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: It will led to different kettler fish there. They're not
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: all at home drinking. Are they're going to plant that?
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I think the takeout message drunk, they're going to be
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: more productive.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I've done my best work not on air, but writing
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: under the influence.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I think if someone would have a few stiff drinks,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: we might get a slightly more robust solution to Sydney's
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: shark crisis. Maybe if someone put a little bit of
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: something in the hit flask, you get a bit of
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Dutch courage and do what needs to be done, which
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: is killed them all. But yes. A series of great
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: white shark sidings at Bondai Beach as reignited concerns about
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: shark activity along Sydney's coastline. The beach was shut yet
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: again today, the third consecutive day, after another predator was
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: seen near surface. All the anecdotal evidence is that these
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: are getting bigger, they are getting closer to the shore,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and possibly they are being powered by AI.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Deliberately.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say it. It is time. I don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: care what it is. I am pro human, I'm not
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: pro shark. I don't care if they were in the
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: water first. We crawled out of the water however, many
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: billion years ago, so they've got no monopoly on it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: And I say we go in there, we shoot them,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: We net them, we fish them, we slice them, we
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: dice them, we eat them in batter, whatever it takes.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Oh Jez, just get rid of those evils. The one
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: in could you was the size of a car, A
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: small car, I'll grant you that, but a car. We
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: should not have sharks the size of a car swimming
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: between the flags.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm with you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You know, once upon a time we would have had
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: a beer with our battered shack, but now you're on
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the vodka these days. But I'll meet you halfway and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you and I think could eat our way through these
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: great whites, which we're not allowed to kill because we've
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: signed up to all these international treaties and things. Apparently.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: But if for three days in a row you've had
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the beaches being closed because of a great sighting, now
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure whether it's the same great
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: white that keeps turning up, but just go out and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: shoot the thing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: But the fact that these sharks have been picked up
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: on drones, which is why that they have closed the beaches,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: doesn't that suggest that shark mitigation practices are working as
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: it is because the drones have been indeed picked up
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: these sharks, therefore they've closed the beach down.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Well, sure, but that's but.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: How long ago was it a woman got torn up?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: That could you?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But again, and look, we've had this debate. We had
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: this debate, racer.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I am so I understand we are pro human life,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: but in the end, you take that risk when you
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: enter the water. There may be a probability that there
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: is a shark just as you hop into your car,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: that you might have a car accident. There is always
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: risks involved, and that is the risk that you take
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: when you enter their territory and their habitat.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we don't say all right, it's always going
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: to be a risk when you're get in the car.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: So away you go. Here's your VA. No seat belt,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: side road rules, no traffic lights, just you know, going
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: to swim between.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: The mapas swim between the flags.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: No, So we do so we regulate things and we
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: mitigate the danger. And the woman it could she was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: swimming between the flags and she got charmed.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So I mean to use the comparison if there were
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a group of I don't know what's the plural for kangaroo.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: What do you a murder of kangaroo?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: A mob of kangaroos. So if you had a mob
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of kangaroos who suddenly decided that they wanted to live
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: in the medium stripped down the Hume Highway or something,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they'd be out there and they'd all be shot dead.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Our national on the curative arms, correct, because they pandemic
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: proportions we call because they're ruining the earth or the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: grass or whatever, and yet we can't cull sharks when
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: they're chomping people's heads.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: You know what.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I've said this on air before.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I was a young reporter in perth Under the former
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Barnet government, the Liberal government there, and their catch and
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: kill policy was an absolute political disaster. Day after day
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: there was pictures of blood coming out of sharks splashed
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: lost the West Australian newspaper.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: They ended up backflipping on the policy, Joe, because politically
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: it hurt them. It was it was a really bad policy,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: you know what a dead still. They did kill several
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: sharks I remember over that time, over that time frame,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: but it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Was more the hippies up and down and go.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I don't consider myself to be a hippie and I'm
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: completely against that the shark cole.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with it, secret secret, But I was
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: reading in that article that a lot of it has
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: to do around this time of the year with bait
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: fish movements and that's why there's a lot of more
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: sharks coming coming closer into the shore and the moment again,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I just think it's the risks take. It's the risk
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: that you take when you enter the water. I just
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: think it's it is well.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I reckon we should eat them all, the bait, fish, sharks,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the whole lot.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I do my bit for the one giant seafood fricacy around.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Never a beach will be close hit well.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Washed down with a bit of Cooper's Palearm, good South
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Australian product. I reckon that'd be a good Saturday afternoon
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to be perfectly frank, particularly if the weather were nice.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Now over in the UK, they're getting a taste of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: what an Australian summer feels like, can you let it?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And they're losing their goddamn minds about it. I think
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I heard Peter Kredlen saying earlier this evening, who's currently
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in London for the art conference, that had got to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: thirty six degrees yesterday in London and they were all
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: losing their minds. They couldn't believe what was going on,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: so much so that apparently you've got buses catching on
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: fire now over there there was.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: An all it was an electric bus.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Electric bus caught fire in London because well, apparently they're
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: just not built over there to be able to withstand
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the heat, which is rather odd. We've got electric buses
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: all over Sydney and I don't see them blowing up
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: all the time in the heat. They just bit weak
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: over there in pommy Land. I think they can't believe
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: what's going on. They cannot cope with it, but they
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: don't want you to cope with it, it would seem
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: because under all these rules and regulations that they brought
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in planning rules and regulations when it comes to greeny stuff,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: apparently you're not meant to have an air conditioner unless
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it's the last resort. You're certainly not meant to use
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it unless it's the last resort. And there are literally
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: inspectors going around in England telling people that they have
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to take their air cons off of their homes because
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: they're illegal, and that they should have ceiling fans instead.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I know they're in a heat wave and they can't
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: have air cons. This is from the Telegraph cop beload
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of this. They report that in one string of cases
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that was uncovered by the Telegraph, a resident living in
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: North London was forced to permanently remove two air con
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: units from the back of their home. Planning inspectors working
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: for Camden Council said there was quote no justification for
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the air con units and that they failed to comply
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: with the local authority so called cooling hierarch. Now this
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: cooling hierarchy, by the way, is that you have to
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: use every other possible thing before you get the air con.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: So in an appeal, the resident was told to open
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the windows and balcony doors of their first floor flat
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: to ventilate the property quote by natural means. They then
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: said they were concerned about the security, but that was
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: dismissed and the inspectors said the risk was not as
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: great as those associated with ground floor windows and that
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the windows could be shut at night, and the planning
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: document said that the main issue quote unquote of concerned
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: for inspectors was where the quote the need for active
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: cooling is justified with particular regard to local policies on
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: energy and The Telegraph also has that another resident was
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: ordered to remove three air con units from their property
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: despite complying with all planning requirements. Camden Council planning inspectors
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: made particular note of the quote absence of ceiling fans
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in their home, even though it was not listed as
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a requirement. So under these greeny planning rules in the UK,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: they're now saying that you've got to have either your
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: windows open or ceiling fans before you can even consider
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: putting an air conditioner on your home. And if you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: do have one, you better only turn it on when
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's really done hot and you've done everything else with
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: What is this real life? They're going around telling people
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: either before or during a heat wave, or take your
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: air conditioners off your property.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: What So, what I'm trying to understand is so right now,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: in the middle of a heat wave, we've got students
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: being sent home from school because it's simply too hot.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: They've been told to go home.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: You've got construction workers knocking off the job, not being
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: able to work. They're being told to go home because
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: It is too hot. As soon as you get to
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: your home, you may.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: As well stay outside because you can't get cool because
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: you've got to use a fan, open.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: A window, give that a crack.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't work, well, too bad, because we're going
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: to take your airkon away from you anyway.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I just love how there's so much to love about
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: this story. I mean, honestly, you wonder why Reform is
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: the number one political party in the UK. It's this joy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like Victoria, you know, road tested on
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: the global stage. Like what if we took a little
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: statel like Victoria and made it into a whole country
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: and that would be the ukay. But so the amazing
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: thing is that you know, you've got air con as
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: a last resort, right, quite un quote quite unquote. So
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: you've got them removing permanently removing air conditioning units right,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: put in the proverbial, you know, bureaucratic gun to residence
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: heads and saying no, you've got to tear those off
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: your wall, and then say, you know you've got to
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: open the doors and windows. If that's not enough, I
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: know you've got to have ceiling fans. And only if
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: those two things and other things don't work, can you
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: use the air conditioning. But it's already been repaired of
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: the wall, it's already wrong, So it's already impossible to
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: use it as a last resort because they've demanded that
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: you tear it out. But the amazing thing is that
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: all this is being done by the people who are
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: saying that temperatures are going to get even hotter. The
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: world is burning. Whatever you do there out those air conditioners, I.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Just make it make sense? Is it the emissions caused
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: by an air con? I don't know how we possibly
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: do it in Australia or any other part of the whole.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, how they're just so obsessed with it. It's
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: beyond bizarre because it's your rubio. If indeed it's going
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to get hotter and hotter and hotter, as they say
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you need the air con.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Well you know what it's like in thirty six degrees
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: where they're here in Australia.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: They did this industry, there would be a revolution.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Can you can you imagine it? I mean, if you
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: don't like they're.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Only the ear cons down government can tain your.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: They can, yes they can, they can. But I remember
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: when I first moved to Cydney. My apartment didn't have
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: an air condition and it was the worst summer. It
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: was a really bad bush fire summer and it was
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the worst. Not you need an air I've not.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Had an air com the whole time I've lived in Sydney.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Well how have you managed?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: With great difficulty?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Because you in London you could pick up.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: But so you would know firsthand what it's like without
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: a wolf.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And because I of course come from cities with dry heats,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you know, Adelaide boy and I've lived in Melbourne and
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it's much more humid here in Sydney. It's absolutely bloody awful.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But the rentals I've lived in don't have air cons
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: so I've just had to battle through it. I'm living
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: like a palm.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Well they go Paradise for.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Caleb and you don't actually need air con. If you
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: want to reduce the temperature, all you need to do
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: is swap your beef for lentils. Oh that's revolution revolutionary.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: That is what the labor government in the UK again,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: what would happen if Victoria went global? Labor is encouraging
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: farmers to swap beef production for lentil production. I assume
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: it's production. I assume it's not what they're consuming because lentils,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I believe, probably produce more greenhouse gases when you eat.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: But anyway, it says the Department for Energy, Food and
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Rural Affairs has said farmers will play a critical role
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: in delivering this transition by adopting practices that reduce emissions
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: while sustaining productive and commercially viable businesses. So this will
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: this is all part of the government's farming Roadmap, which
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure a lot of farmers will be using
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: for purposes other than navigation. But they have basically said
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: that they need to move away from beef. Mean, all
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: know that cattle cows methane, which contributes to globalming. But
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: they're saying lentils, I mean lentils, really humble lentil. There's
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: dahal and then what else are you got?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Well, isn't this.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Just another labor example over there? How they're just just
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: trying to destroy prime British agriculture, and we know how
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: wonderful agriculture is over over in Britain. It also says
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: the Farming Roadmap includes commitments to increase the use of
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: robots on farms as well as improved soil health at
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the same time. But you know, this is a problem
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: with the left right. Cows are actually so vital for
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: food security across any country. You need them to support
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: a food network for the regions. Of course, it boosts
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the regions and it actually helps work in the regions,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: so that again labor is going after agriculture.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Beef is also the symbol of Great Britain. What got
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: roast beef is what got But it's why Britain won
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: the Napoleonic was and why we're not all speaking French.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It's just you're right. It is like Victoria going global,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: isn't it. I just can't get my head. I'm really disappointed. Well,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been watching, but there's a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: new season Clarkson's Farm out.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be shifting to lentil.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, but I can't wait for the next season
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: of Clarkson Farm, which presumably will come out next year,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: which will include Jeremy Clarkson complaining about the fact that
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: secure starm has called him up him to put bloody
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: lentils into his property instead of cattle. It is just ridiculous.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It's like living in an episode of The Young Ones.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it lentils men? Or was it mung bells? They
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: were all on.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: And repe rose the seeds eat the seed. Neil from
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: The Young Ones could be a farmer.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Well correct, and see the problem is that, in the
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: name of supposedly saving the planet, we've actually got to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the point where people want us to stop progressing and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: we're starting to regress, like it's we now have to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: accept so you can't have air con. So here we are.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: You know, we've fought for human endeavor and inventions and
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: things to make our lives more comfortable and more enjoyable,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and now we've decided that we're going to take them
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: all away because apparently they're bad for the planet. So
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: not only are we going to have to live supposedly
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: in a planet that's going to be hotter, they're going
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to make us all suffer in the process of trying
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to stop that from happening. No beef, no air conditioners
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: in the UK. I mean, what will they take away
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: from you?
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: The hippies want us all to look and smell white.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Left have been going after after cows for years.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: They've been it's like they have declared a.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: War on can mean that I always thought they've got Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I always thought it would welcome back.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages, Caleb, it's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: all about the soccer roos.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Indeed, it is because people are getting geared up by
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: those long lunches on the front of the Canberra Times tomorrow.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Of course, it's his talk to the hand Soccer US
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: come to grips with Paraguay. Soccer U's defender Harry Sutta
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: will be on a mission to block everything Paraguay throws
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: at him in Australia's twenty twenty six feet for World
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Cup clash today today being tomorrow, of course, and if
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you happen to be in the nation's capital, there is
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a you butte big double sided poster inside of the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: newspaper for you to have a gander at. So twelve
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: pm tomorrow, I do wonder actually how much work will
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: get done.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: None zero zero. It's guarantee part's happening tomorrow apart from here.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: At Sky News, where I will be toiling away all day.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But as were my producers, you'll be here as well.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be here working on my show, but I
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: will also have the television on the sign.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, I think we'll all be doing that, but
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll have to keep an eye on the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: work as well.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think we have to keep an eye on you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: You're the one that's suggesting all these long lunches and
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: boozy affairs. For goodness sake, we are the one that's
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: in trouble.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Is it too? Early to call in sick.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: No, you can't announce yourself now. You bugget that one
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: up entirely. You got to keep that one from so
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: he's bugged it up.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: You should have.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Started coughing earlier on air and nothing would have been obvious.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at tomorrow's Australian headline. Their Peak
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Unions demand to Labor try again.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: For an Indigenous voice.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Terrific Trade unions have broken with Anthony Albernezi's decree that
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: the labor movement movement move on from the failed Indigenous voice,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: declaring a legislated or constitutional Aboriginal decision making body is
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: vital to ending racism in Australia.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: In the less than three years following.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: The constitutional recognition referendum was voted down by sixty percent
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: of the country in every state. The Prime Minister has
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: taken a different path on Indigenous policy, focused on economic
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: empowerment and veered far away from the identity politics of
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: the ullary statement of the Heart. But the Australian Council
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: of Trade Union it's the national peak body for unions
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and one of the most powerful players in labor, has
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: now declared the need for a voice of some form
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: and demanded the date of Australia Day be moved as
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: it reinforces structural racism.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Well here we go again.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Firstly, I mean, how well did the Voice to Parliament
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: go last time? As we've said, sixty percent. But consistently
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: we see unions, we see organizations, they're not listening to
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the will of the people. We don't want an indigenous
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: voice to Parliament. We've been there, done that. Yet We've
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: seen states, of course, Joe, that have gone down their
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: own pathway of the voice. But I'd be shocked if
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Labour bows down to the unions for this one.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: But seriously, stay in your lane.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: It is honestly the stupidest thing I have ever seen.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: And in terms of I say, this is someone who's
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: supported the voice. But you have got, for the first
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: time in history, a majority of blue collar voters voting
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: for one nation for the first time in history, a
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: majority of blue collar voters voting for a party other
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: the Labor Party the first time in Australian history, the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: first time since the Labor Party was formed by blue
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: collar workers. Most of them are now voting for one nation.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: And this is the crap that you think the union
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: movement should be preoccupied with this is what you think
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: should be number one on the agenda. It's just it's
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: like they are trying to write themselves out of relevance.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: It is like they are trying to just throw themselves
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: off a cliff. Read the effing room you moren.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Has Sally McManus taken leave of verse in it's just
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in fact, I'll get my team.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: The best ideas suggested that everyone just turned their taps
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: on in the middle of it. Is not worried.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I'd love to have her on the show tomorrow to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: have a chat about it, because I just like, why
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: would you trot this out now? Can you imagine Bill
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Keilty and people like.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: That going like Labour has got an existential structural crisis understanding.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I talked to people in the party all the time
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: about this, that one nation is taking what is Labour's
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: core heartland, It's core voting base, because blue collar voters
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: no longer feel that the Left is aligned with their
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: priorities and their concerns, and so they're going to one nation.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Even though one nation has far worse policies for working
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: class people, They're still going there because the language they
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: hear from the left makes them think that the labor
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: movement or people on the left more broadly, are totally
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: out of touch. And this is the crap that the
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: ACTU is worried about. It's just it blows my mind.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: It is just bonkers. Anyway, let's get to the Daily Telegraph.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Now ripped off at the pump. One in twenty fuel
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: bowsers is inaccurate. Roll great yard. Nearly one in twenty
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: fuel pumps is short changing motorists by delivering less fuel
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: than what is being paid for, while a third of
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: retailers are failing to fully comply with measurement regulations. And
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: National Audit has found about three thousand pumps tested at
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: more than four hundred fuel retailers, and of those, one
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: hundred and thirty seven had quote inaccurate instruments which resulted
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: in consumer disadvantage. So amazing, so bad. Of the ones
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: that were inaccurate, all of these one hundred and thirty
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: seven resulted in disadvantaging the consumer and not the retailer.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Oh surprise, surprise, those You should play two up with
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: those odds.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Especially a time as well where fuel is through the roof.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: You know, One in twenty that's a lot. That's that's huge,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: that's huge. You're being short changed.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Dodgy, dodgy. Imagine how many more schooners you could buy
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: watching the soccer tomorrow.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: For your late lunch if you hadn't been bloody ripped
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: your boozy lunch.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Toway. He's already prepressive. This is he's just he's still
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: preparing for his big day.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Even if even if you're ripped off, you know, by
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: twenty five bucks.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: That was a lot of money though, would probably.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Still just be one schooner.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these days it is on the front of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Mercury down in Tazzi tomorrow, something about a two thy one.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Someone sent off a message in the bottle and that's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: been Yeah, that's rather interesting. But how about this one
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: underneath it? Taz under wraps. Tasmania has withdrawn more than
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: four hundred thousand drivers license images from a national database
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: because of concerns about a facial recognition system. Between twenty
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty twenty, Tasmania uploaded about four hundred and
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand drivers license images to a section of the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: National Driver License Facial Recognition Solution, which is very nicely
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: abbreviated into the acronym of indy LFRS, which no one
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: has ever seated except for me. But the state government,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it says, is unconvinced by claims sorry that the now
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: operational system helps to protect people from identity theft and quote,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: prevent crime, increase road safety and improve identity verification. And
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I have to say I don't say this very often
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: about the Tasmanian government these days, but good on them
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for pulling out of this thing, because you know, facial
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for recognition is the next vanguard basically in government monitoring
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and policing, etc. I mean, it's already being used in
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: some parts of the world to monitor your mood so
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: they can target advertising in train stations. They've done that
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: on the Tube in London.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: And the social media band they used to face it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned about how all encompassing this has become.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, my face gets recognized all
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: the time and it's great, but.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: This was the main concern that I had initially with
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: even the social media band, was the facial recognition technology, like,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: where does that?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Where does it go? Where does that? You know? Whence
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: it's uploaded a.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Giant tech company, Well, you know, the funny thing about
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: that bottle. Though, by the way, this is this I
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: know actually put it on the list, but they put
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: they put a message in a bottle in twenty one,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: twenty five years ago. Do you know what the message said? Nothing?
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Just said if you find this pot, or can you
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: send it to this address or call this number so
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I can find out where it ended up. Nothing. Not
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: like although that's pretty cool, but that's not like you
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: knows evolutionary No, my name is you know Edna. I
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: live in Tasmania.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: You have it's not revolutionist. Put that way.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the Gold Coast bulletin. Now
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: three hundred thousand dollars but no staff. A new three
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollar manager's position has been created at Gold
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Coast City Council, but no one will report to them.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: It's understood counselors asked officers about the new appointment, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: we're told the salary package was six figures at a
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: closed session recently.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Well that's it. I mean, there's a great gig if
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you can get it. You've got pretty much zero response.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand dollars and zero responsibility. No one, you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: no one has to report to you. You just sworn
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: about do whatever you want. I think it's great, and restore.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Your faith in council efficiency, wouldn't I know?
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Indeed that's the job you want. If you would watch
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the stoper tomorrow.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: It's actually the most efficient you could possibly get the
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: head of the Department of One.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Get it all done.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah that said, all right, we're going to take a
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: quick break. Coming up next, students given bake university degrees
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: at a graduation at a Queensland UNI.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: We'll tell you why next. Welcome back, Well, One Nation's fire.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: The liar campaign is haunting Anthony Albanesi.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Like a ghost. Have a look at these fire.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: The lyre trucks that rocked up outside of Parliament House today.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: This is the They are the same trucks that were
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: sent to mister Albanesi's Sydney office.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I guess it's a bit of.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: A revenge campaign, but gosh, we're absolutely loving it. This
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: campaign has now raised would you believe, five million dollars?
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Five million dollars, which is incredible. So there they are,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: the trucks rolling into Parliament House today. Anthony Albanesi, he
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: just can't escape them.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I can just imagine what the Prime Minister would use.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: I'll go get tracked, or you could I would twist
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: it and say, oh, look, if the people are giving
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: five million bucks to one nation, how bad can the
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: cost of living really good?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: That's actually not bad that bad at all?
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean, you know, it's probably more to the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: point that, you know, even despite the cost of living crisis,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: they're so incensed by what your mate has been doing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Very good last half empty handing their money over to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: one nation. But there will be plenty more where that
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: came from. I suspect. Now we'll be we've been talking
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: about the World Cup tonight, and now if you're going
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to go to the pub tomorrow, just be glad that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you're in Australia, where, despite swim Dusty One singing about
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the pub with no beer, you're probably guaranteed of a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: cold one. But it may not be so if you're
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: in certain parts of Vancouver, because apparently the Aussies are
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: drinking the buggers dry over there. A general manager of
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: a sports bar in Vancouver called Dublin Calling has said
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that he's been in a spot of bother because they noticed,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you know, that was busier than they even expected and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: He said that on Saturday at around three m Tyler
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Brower is the general manager. He said, around three pm,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: we noticed that we were getting pretty low on beers. Australians,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: he said, were purposely trying to drink us dry. So
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: we had to rush and get twenty kegs of lager.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And they've now ordered two hundred more kings to deal
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: with the influx, and no doubt they'll be in there
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: tomorrow trying to drink them dry again. You know, Ossie's,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they're doing us proud wherever they go.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: But this is why, this is why Ozzie's have a
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: reputation for being big drinkers.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Every time you're overseas. Overseas they go, oh the gosh,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the Oussi's drink a lot.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Very unfairly friend that we're trying to drink you dry.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: That's just kind of like a side effect. That's just
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: that just happens.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: They're doing their bit for the they're just.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Having a quiet on the plus side.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: On the plus side, these pubs would be absolutely stock
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: the amount of money that they're getting during this World
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Cup cupcab raking it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: In say that particular Irish pub is rolling in Clover,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Oh that was and finally not. As mentioned earlier, a
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: unifsity has been handing fake degrees to its students because
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: it never got around to the vice chancellor actually signing
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: the real ones. Deacon University again, just infer the evidence
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: that Victoria is just a completely failed state. Deacon University
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: students have received fake degree certificates their graduations in an
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: embarrassing move sparked by the recent resignation of Vice Chancellor
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Ian Martin. Hundreds of students were blind sided by getting
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: a degree that was just a generic degree. Others opened
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: envelopes to find there was nothing in them, and one student,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Michelle Reeve, flew all the way from the Sunshine Coast
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: in Queensland to get her Diploma of Psychological Science and
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: instead return whoops.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I mean only in Victoria when something like this happened,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: wouldn't it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Gentlemen, Thank you, thank you for your company. Stay tuned.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: The Rita pane Hey Show is next.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Good Night,