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ITB: What Do Oddsmakers Expect In 2026 For Hurts, Barkley, DeVonta Smith, Other Eagles? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

0:09
Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is It's back.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?
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Speaker 1: It's Jeff Mosher, It's Adam Kaplan, and we are finishing
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Speaker 1: our two part Eagles Props series and we're looking at
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Speaker 1: individual props for Eagles players as opposed to the first
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Speaker 1: podcast where we looked at the props for team success
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Speaker 1: compared that to the year before. We determined, Adam that
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Speaker 1: Vegas is not as high on the Eagles overall success
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Speaker 1: this year as they were last year. And now we're
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Speaker 1: gonna look at this is like a fun fantasy football
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Speaker 1: type thing. We look at individual players and what Vegas
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Speaker 1: is expecting of their individual seasons.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's always interesting to see how these they
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Speaker 2: think the players are going to do. One year, they
0:52
Speaker 2: thought Barkley would suck. One year, they thought you'd do better.
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Speaker 2: You know, it just depends on the year. That's just
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Speaker 2: it's kind of funny how it works out. But yeah, boy,
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Speaker 2: I just it's funny. Two years ago, I thought I
1:02
Speaker 2: knew they missed on Barkley. They were basically doing the worry.
1:06
Speaker 2: I get it. He ended his career poorly with the Giants.
1:10
Speaker 2: He had a bunch of injuries over his career, obviously
1:12
Speaker 2: very talented. Now, no one could have predicted what he
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Speaker 2: would wind up doing. But if I recall correctly, I
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Speaker 2: think it was one thousand point five. This was the
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Speaker 2: over undertotal. Like I love the over now, trist Be
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Speaker 2: told I liked the over last year didn't hit. He
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Speaker 2: didn't have a good year, But we didn't know what
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Speaker 2: was coming. And that's the beauty of doing these early.
1:32
Speaker 2: You just don't know exactly how it's gonna look. We're
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Speaker 2: doing this, yes, after the A. J. Brown trade, but
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Speaker 2: before training camp starts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Barkley being one of them. But there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of players to make some money on two years ago,
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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of players to lose some
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Speaker 1: money on last year. As Barkley's rushing total last year
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Speaker 1: he was way short of. So let's look at this
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Speaker 1: year and we'll go through some of the bigger names.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. Let's talk about his NFL MVP odds, because
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Speaker 1: I find a fact here based on these odds to
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Speaker 1: be quite fascinating.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be the NFL MVP, which is the ap
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Speaker 2: NFL MVP that's actually recognized for players incentives. That Hurts
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Speaker 2: his plus thirty five hundred which to me, if let's
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Speaker 2: put it this way, if the Eagles are a thirteen
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Speaker 2: or fourteen win team, that I would bet that he's
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Speaker 2: having a fantastic year. He's getting the timing part of
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Speaker 2: the offense, which is the most important for him. Yep. Sure,
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Speaker 2: they could run the ball better they're going to than
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Speaker 2: they did last year. How could they run it worse?
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Speaker 2: And the defense should be very good to elite. But
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Speaker 2: if they're going to be a deep playoff team. We
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Speaker 2: understand this is only based on the regular season, but
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Speaker 2: if they're a thirteen win team or more, Hurts is
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Speaker 2: going to get some recognition for MVP.
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Speaker 1: Has to Yeah, And so two things stand out about
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Speaker 1: this to me plus thirty five hundred. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you are really thinking the Eagles are going to be
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Speaker 1: good this year and the new offense is going to
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Speaker 1: help Hurts like you were saying that you want to,
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Speaker 1: that's a good way to win some easy money, man.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if the Eagles are really good and good
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Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl, he could easily be the NFL MVP,
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Speaker 1: especially since he hasn't won it yet and there will
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Speaker 1: always be some kind of it's finally his time. He's
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl Champion. He's in the two right, so
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Speaker 1: you throw onn like fifty bucks on plus thirty three thousand,
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Speaker 1: five hundred. That's great. The second thing that stands out
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Speaker 1: to me, Adam, is that he is he has the
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Speaker 1: third shortest odds out of the four NFC East quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: to win it, because number one would be Dak Prescott,
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Speaker 1: way higher at or lower however we want to describe it.
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Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott is only plus twelve hundred and Jaden
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Speaker 1: Daniels plus two thousand. So how about this? How about this?
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Speaker 1: He is as far from Jaden Daniels at thirty five
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Speaker 1: hundred as he is from the fourth quarterback, Jackson Dart,
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Speaker 1: who's fifteen hundred below him at five thousand. How can
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Speaker 1: you be as close to Jackson Dart as you are
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Speaker 1: far from Jaden Daniels when you're Jalen.
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Speaker 2: Hurts and Dangels is coming off of a injury plague season,
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Speaker 2: the commanders were terrible. How could he have better odds
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Speaker 2: than Hurts? I just don't understand that. I'm mystified at
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Speaker 2: that one. Look, if you're based on us first year,
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Speaker 2: I could understand that where he was close to elite
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Speaker 2: as a rookie last year was not as good. They
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Speaker 2: didn't help them, and honestly, now I know that they
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Speaker 2: know they're going to have to add a receiver of
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Speaker 2: some degree. They can't go in with this group. They
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Speaker 2: need to help McLaurin out and help the quarterback out.
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Speaker 2: But that's just ridiculous to have the shorter odds and
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Speaker 2: it hurts, And it's funny with Mahomes like he's coming
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Speaker 2: off of a major injury, like comeback player of the
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Speaker 2: Year maybe, but he's only plus one thousand. In fact,
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Speaker 2: the shorter odds are Josh Allen a plus eight hundred.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, six, yeah, yep. I mean this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: I think I honestly think there's better if you're just
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Speaker 1: doing this for making money. I mean, Matthew Stafford fourteen hundred.
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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody thinks the Rams are going to be
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Speaker 1: the top team, and you're always looking for the guy
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Speaker 1: who's gonna put up some huge numbers. I mean, Goff
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Speaker 1: could Mayfield that there's just a lot of interesting names
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Speaker 1: here that I'd almost feel more comfortable with in the
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Speaker 1: top three of album and Herbert.
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Speaker 2: Right now the next one. You know, if you're just
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Speaker 2: going by pure numbers. That's where Offensive Player of the
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Speaker 2: Year comes in. That's why you might see receiver win run.
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Speaker 2: You know, there are other positions that could win it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the Offensive Player of the Year one. It's funny because
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Speaker 2: it's so different if you look at the way that
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Speaker 2: they've graded these players comparatively to the MVP award, right,
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Speaker 2: it's fascinating. So Jamiir Gibbs is number one, a plus
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Speaker 2: seven point fifty, just to give you comparison, Hurts is
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Speaker 2: to be Offensive Player of the Year. Let me make
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Speaker 2: sure I have this right, mean, let me roll this down.
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Speaker 1: Well as you roll it, as people understand. Because quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: almost always win MVP, the voters choose a piss additional
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Speaker 1: player to win Offensive Player of the Year a lot
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Speaker 1: of the times. So you're not gonna see I don't
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Speaker 1: think you see a quarterback on this list until plus
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Speaker 1: sixty six hundred at Josh Allen. All right, and then
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Speaker 1: you can get through probably like twenty five names, including
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Speaker 1: guys like Devon h and Nicocollins receive rice before you
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Speaker 1: even get to Josh Allen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because Hurts his plus ten thousand, and
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Speaker 2: so's Javonte Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Garrett Wilson's coming off on
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Speaker 2: a knee issue. It's kind of funny that too, but
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Speaker 2: again it's a numbers driven one. It hurts it to me.
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Speaker 2: He let's put it this way. In twenty two, we know,
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Speaker 2: you know, he got hurt late, but it wasn't like
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Speaker 2: he threw for five thousand yards, but he was, so
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Speaker 2: it was just such a great year. If you watched
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Speaker 2: it visually with him and AJ Brown together, Yep, it
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Speaker 2: was a monster year for the deep ball and all that. So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it'll be fascinating to see what happens. But because of
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Speaker 2: as you said, it's surely it's it's more a skill
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Speaker 2: position position skill position award hurts his only plus ten thousand.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, he's either gonna win MVP or
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Speaker 1: he's not. I don't see him winning Offensive Player of
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Speaker 1: the Year unless he and another quarterback have such unbelievable
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Speaker 1: years and there's really not a running back or receiver
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Speaker 1: that does, which is very hard to envision. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to passing yards because I'm sort of flum mixed by
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Speaker 1: this side by the number a years.
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Speaker 2: Who but it makes sense because well, oh, yeah, because
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Speaker 2: think about it, right, passing yards thirty one point thirty
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Speaker 2: one to fifty point five.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I was reading this, Okay, so that's three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifteen yards per game, but I got thirty one.
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Speaker 2: No, no, it's for the season, thirty one to fifty last year.
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Speaker 2: Just just to understand hurts at thirty just thirty two
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Speaker 2: to twenty four. Mkay. Even in that monster season, he's
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Speaker 2: thirty seven oh one and that was with AJ Brown.
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Speaker 2: And there are a lot of questions in the passing
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Speaker 2: yardage number. I don't like. This is a no MP
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Speaker 2: means no play right, thirty one to fifty point five,
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Speaker 2: the overs minus twenty so so so the nut. So
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Speaker 2: people are betting it over. That's why they're their favorite
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Speaker 2: to its favor to go over. It to me is
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Speaker 2: a no play the unders minus one hundred. I just
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Speaker 2: don't like it because it's really hard to when you
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Speaker 2: don't have AJ Brown. Yes, we like DeVante Smith. How
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Speaker 2: much health is he gonna get? M hmm, that would
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Speaker 2: worry me. That's that's that one I'd pass pass.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I don't. I just stay away
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Speaker 1: from that altogether because his passing numbers are so scattershot
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Speaker 1: all throughout, like it's they can drop or raise between
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Speaker 1: three to four hundred depending on the season. So it's
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Speaker 1: it's just too erratic for me to to put to
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Speaker 1: even you know, try to like make money off of
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Speaker 1: if I.
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Speaker 2: Were to ye next one passing touchdowns twenty same way.
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Speaker 1: About that, By the way, what's that? I feel the
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Speaker 1: same way about passing touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: It's just right, Well, here's the see, here's the problem.
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Speaker 2: If you look at it's his first year is a
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Speaker 2: full time starters twenty one, look at only passing touchdowns
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Speaker 2: sixteen twenty two, just twenty two with aj Brown. Now
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Speaker 2: he had a he had a big good yard this
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Speaker 2: year at thirty seven oh one. Twenty three was so
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Speaker 2: erratic and he turned the ball over. But he had
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Speaker 2: his biggest passing order season at thirty fifty eight, and
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Speaker 2: then he took the massive dip with obviously with Barkley.
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Speaker 2: Passing game regression just twenty nine ozho threeis pathetic, like
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Speaker 2: the three under three thousand yards. I don't care how
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Speaker 2: good your running game is. That's embarrassing, like that can't right,
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Speaker 2: And last year was not great. Issues with the passing
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Speaker 2: Game's what's crazy. Now, obviously, when you don't have as
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Speaker 2: many attempts, the completion of savage usually will go up.
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Speaker 2: And Hurts had a great completion percentage of thirty eight
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Speaker 2: seven seased to be sixty eight seven. We know the
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Speaker 2: table wasn't great. That confirmed it. And then twenty five
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Speaker 2: just thirty two to twenty four this season the odds makers,
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Speaker 2: as we said, thirty one to fifty. Now the passing
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Speaker 2: touchdown at twenty two point five. Last year he had
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Speaker 2: a career high of twenty five. But I was with
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Speaker 2: AJ Brown and they haven't really adequately replaced him. But
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Speaker 2: as I said earlier, if Hurtz throws on time, you
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Speaker 2: could actually have a great season. That's what it's going
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Speaker 2: to come down to. Twenty two and a half touchdowns,
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Speaker 2: the overs minus one oh five and the unders minus
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Speaker 2: one fifteen. I think he's somewhere twenty two twenty three.
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Speaker 2: That's where I see it. That's another note play for.
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Speaker 1: Me, all right, I agree with you. I just think
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst's passing stats are very, very difficult. And then
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Speaker 1: when we get to the rushing stats, eight this is weird.
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Speaker 1: So eight and a half touchdowns, rushing touchdown, rushing touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: He's minus one ten over, minus one ten under. I
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Speaker 1: don't even know what to make of that. It's like
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Speaker 1: Vegas doesn't really know where they think he's like right
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Speaker 1: in that area.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's if you really look at it. When you
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Speaker 2: look at his rushing numbers, he took a major dip
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Speaker 2: because the tush push was bad the recent the success
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Speaker 2: rate was way down. Also, Goddard getting all those red
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Speaker 2: zone touchdowns hurt him. Now I say that, and he
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Speaker 2: still had eight rushing touchdowns. The number, as you mentioned,
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Speaker 2: is eight and a half over or under at minus
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Speaker 2: one ten. I would like the over if I had
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Speaker 2: to take it. It's a small play that the Hurts
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Speaker 2: is so hard to figure out offensively because you have
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Speaker 2: a new scheme. Is you gonna get it? Can he
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Speaker 2: do it? Is he capable? Yes? Can he do it?
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Speaker 2: Will he do it? We'll see. The only one I
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Speaker 2: actually like slightly is the over eight and a half
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Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns and then to finish Hurts off the rushing
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Speaker 2: yardage at four hundred point five, the over and the
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Speaker 2: under is minus one ten. Well, he's never had less
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Speaker 2: than four hundred point five. Effect. Last year, in a
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Speaker 2: down year, he had his lowest rushing temp number, he
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Speaker 2: only had one hundred and five rushing attempts in sixteen games,
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Speaker 2: he still had four hundred and twenty one yards. YEP,
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Speaker 2: yards per carry average was not good at four point zero,
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Speaker 2: But again I would like the over at four hundred
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Speaker 2: point five at minus one ten, just because the offensive
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Speaker 2: line has to and it will block better for the run.
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Speaker 2: It has to. How could be any worse?
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Speaker 1: Come on, I would agree with you. I think in
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Speaker 1: his worst year he still had he had eight rushing touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: Every other year has been double digits, and every other
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Speaker 1: year has been at least six hundred rushing yards. So
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Speaker 1: I mean those are to me if you think he
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Speaker 1: just even if he doesn't run way more, just a
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Speaker 1: little bit more, then he surpasses these totals pretty easily.
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Speaker 1: I would say, yep, all right, let's move on to
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Speaker 1: say Kawon Barkley some really interesting So, like you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: two years ago, it was like a thousand, It was
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Speaker 1: so easy thousand mon plate it. Yeah, he bested last
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Speaker 1: year though, it got inflated to fifteen hundred point five
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Speaker 1: and the over was plus one hundred on that not even.
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Speaker 2: A lot of Now, what is it that high. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I wonder when we take did we take the show
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Speaker 2: in the middle of July last year before.
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Speaker 1: Track at the same time last year? Yep?
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Speaker 2: Wow, because I felt like he could get over that.
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Speaker 2: Oh well. So so first one up though, on Barkley's
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Speaker 2: offensive Player of the year at plus fifteen hundred. He's
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Speaker 2: the same monds as Jays Sam and Justin Jefferson. I
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Speaker 2: don't see it because he's just getting older twenty nine,
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Speaker 2: and where the offensive line is, it's not gonna be
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Speaker 2: the same. It's two years ago. Obviously, it's going to
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Speaker 2: be better than last year. I don't see it. The
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Speaker 2: rushing yards though, and eleven hundred point five the overs
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Speaker 2: plus one hundred, I love that one. The others modest
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Speaker 2: one t want to come on, folks, the hell could
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Speaker 2: he be that bad this season? Right?
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Speaker 1: Plus he had he had He had that last year
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Speaker 1: in one of his worst years. So I mean, unless
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Speaker 1: they're anticipating another either a time share more or age injury, whatever,
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Speaker 1: but I would definitely take the over on at plus
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Speaker 1: one hundred. On eleven hundred point five, yeah for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just I understand like that this he
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Speaker 2: had eleven he had eleven forty last year in sixteen games,
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Speaker 2: only four point one yards per carry. The average yards
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Speaker 2: per contact what it was three point nine the season before,
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Speaker 2: obviously way down, But when you really look at it,
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Speaker 2: they they were historically bad run blocking because uh, when
14:21
Speaker 2: you look at Cam Jurgen's, his tape is terrible. Last
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Speaker 2: season run blocking healthier. Dickerson's healthier, and my lot is
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Speaker 2: back laying. I get it. He's another year older.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: I to me, it's a lot. That's of all the
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Speaker 2: ones we've talked about, including the team props. HM. I
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Speaker 2: love this Barkley one over eleven hundred point five. I
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Speaker 2: love it same here.
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Speaker 1: I also love the next one. There's rushing touchdowns seven
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Speaker 1: and a half over as one oh five. He had
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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns last year and a bad year.
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Speaker 2: I mean that's rushing touchdowns, right, only rushing touches in
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Speaker 2: the under minus one twenty five he now Now, the
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Speaker 2: only negative is because we don't know how much the
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Speaker 2: tush push will be and we know they're going to
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Speaker 2: use it. But it was so bad last year. The
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Speaker 2: fact that the tea it was so bad last year.
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Speaker 2: The teams went up and you could have pushed me
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Speaker 2: over with a feather. I didn't think that would happen
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Speaker 2: before the season started last year, but they were so
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Speaker 2: bad at the club Stock declined to even push it
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Speaker 2: for the owner's meetings in March. Bring it back, we
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Speaker 2: could stop it. Teams probably figured it out, and plus
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Speaker 2: now they're going to be healthier, so maybe they do
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Speaker 2: better with In fact, the half time you would think, Yep,
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Speaker 2: I do like the over. I really do over left.
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Speaker 2: So give me eleven and one yards that's the over.
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Speaker 2: I'll take that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I are in on Barkley, not because
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Speaker 1: it's it's some kind of amazing year, but because the
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Speaker 1: numbers are low based on what I.
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Speaker 2: Don't know about the rush touchdowns, I'm gonna I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: pass on it. I like ones where the odds are
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Speaker 2: stacked for you, and I love the over.
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Speaker 1: Eleven hundred point five okay, Yeah, I mean seven touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: If he gets eight plus one oh five, I mean
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Speaker 1: you're getting money if he has eight touchdowns. I feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, when I say getting money, you're getting more
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Speaker 1: than you're putting down for eight touchdowns.
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Speaker 2: I understand. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I honestly, you're right. I don't love it as much.
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Speaker 1: As rushing yards. But I still like it.
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Speaker 2: If eight or more, yeah, eight or more plus one
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Speaker 2: oh five yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, Davante Smith. This is this
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Speaker 1: is fascinating because the first prop you're gonna give is
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Speaker 1: for Offensive Player of the Year. Last year, Jackson Smith
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Speaker 1: and Jigbo won that award, and I almost feel like,
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Speaker 1: what are the odds that it's going to go to
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver again? You know that's that's tough, but
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Speaker 1: it could.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's going to be targeted. Mark plus sixty six
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Speaker 2: hundred is DeVante Smith. So every one hunt, you bet
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Speaker 2: you get sixty six hundred back plus your back back.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I I like it, man, I like it.
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Speaker 2: I like the I kind of like that I could
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Speaker 2: see twelve or thirteen hundred yards here for sure, even
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Speaker 2: potentially more than that. Yeah, I do like it.
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Speaker 1: It's happened before where wide receivers won it back to
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Speaker 1: back twenty twenty one, twenty two, Cooper Cup, then Justin Jefferson.
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Speaker 1: But you don't. I'm going through the list of offensive
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Speaker 1: Players of the Year, and I'm not finding too many
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Speaker 1: instances of wide receivers winning back to back. In fact,
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Speaker 1: that's the only one I can find in the last time.
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Speaker 2: All right, it'll be tough here, I'll hear all right,
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Speaker 2: so it'll be tough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just history. History says it'll be tough, but not
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Speaker 1: a bad number. And if you want to throw a
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Speaker 1: few bucks down and you know, try to maximize it. Well,
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Speaker 1: I like the receiving yards.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the one I love that this is this actually
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Speaker 2: might be smart, stronger than Barclay's rushing yardage. Receiving yardage
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Speaker 2: for Devonte Smith one thousand point five the over. Okay,
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Speaker 2: it's seems to be like a lock if you play
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Speaker 2: even sixteen games minus one twenty the younders plus one hundred.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't. He's not copeaing for targets with aj Brown.
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Speaker 2: He will be in by far easily their top targeted player.
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Speaker 2: He had seventy seven receptions last season, played all games,
17:59
Speaker 2: all seven team for one thousand and eight yards. Come on, man,
18:02
Speaker 2: he's going over. He's going over in one thousand and
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Speaker 2: five easily.
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Speaker 1: You're not you're gonna have to lay down more than
19:25
Speaker 1: the actually win. However, However, receiving touchdowns at him might
19:31
Speaker 1: be the ding ding ding, because I.
19:34
Speaker 2: Do like it, don't love it. It's it's it's five
19:38
Speaker 2: point five now, he only had four last year. He
19:42
Speaker 2: did of eight seven, seven and five to run off
19:45
Speaker 2: his career. It's five and a half the overs plus
19:49
Speaker 2: one hundred, so basically, six touchdowns are more. You're getting
19:53
Speaker 2: plus one hundred, so you're getting double your money. Yeah, yeah, so.
19:57
Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 2: You bete hundred, you get a hundred plus your bat back.
20:04
Speaker 2: I would lean towards it. I don't love it's he's
20:07
Speaker 2: because you got the you got the push, push, you
20:11
Speaker 2: got Goddard who came out of absolute nowhere to shock
20:14
Speaker 2: the world with all these touchdowns. He never really did it.
20:17
Speaker 2: He's never a big touchdown guy, right, Plus with a
20:19
Speaker 2: new play caller who the hell knows.
20:21
Speaker 1: Listen, he's gonna have a game even if the Eagles stink.
20:23
Speaker 1: He's gonna actually if the Egle stink, somehow he'll wind
20:26
Speaker 1: up having even more yards, right because he'll be behind
20:29
Speaker 1: or whatever. But he's gonna have a three touchdown game.
20:31
Speaker 1: He's gonna be half in a game. Huh, yeah, I
20:34
Speaker 1: believe it.
20:35
Speaker 2: Totally have to look for I will have to look
20:37
Speaker 2: for that problem. But then finally with davantage lead the
20:39
Speaker 2: NFL and TV receptions plus four thousand, Yeah, that ain't
20:44
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
20:45
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, that that's that one. I don't like. But
20:49
Speaker 1: I couldn't if it was in receptions. Maybe there's a
20:52
Speaker 1: discussion there not yeah exactly, but yeah, well he's always
20:56
Speaker 1: good for one big game, and I think you can
20:58
Speaker 1: now with no. A. J. Brown absolutely see.
21:01
Speaker 2: It is so the way the oddsmakers do this, they
21:03
Speaker 2: add some and so we'll do this. We'll do this
21:05
Speaker 2: in late August, right before the season started. So that
21:08
Speaker 2: that is DeVante s fifth now the rookie, mckaye Lemon,
21:10
Speaker 2: the first round pick, offensive rookie the year plus eleven
21:13
Speaker 2: hundred McKay levin, mckaye Lemon.
21:17
Speaker 1: I don't love it.
21:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's nice. Odds I don't see. I
21:21
Speaker 2: don't I do see fifty perceptions or more to lead
21:25
Speaker 2: rookies in yardage plus six fifty. I also don't he's
21:29
Speaker 2: a possessed receiver. I don't see it.
21:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't love it. Although I would you could argue,
21:34
Speaker 1: you could make an argument that his biggest competitors will
21:37
Speaker 1: be Carnel Tate, right, and they're not. I don't know
21:43
Speaker 1: how much better that offense is gonna be. I mean,
21:45
Speaker 1: he still has to compete with Ridley and the offense
21:48
Speaker 1: has to work. Who else? Jordan Tyson in New Orleans
21:51
Speaker 1: would be my best bet to lead all wide receivers
21:55
Speaker 1: in yards. I'm trying to think if there's anyone is this.
21:57
Speaker 1: By the way, passing yards are just yards, all.
22:00
Speaker 2: Receiving yards, and that includes running backs and tight end.
22:03
Speaker 2: So that's the other problem. If there's a brock Bowers
22:05
Speaker 2: type of rookie tight end, Yeah, yeah it.
22:08
Speaker 1: Plus you got to watch out for those Browns guys
22:11
Speaker 1: who are going to be heavily targeted because they have
22:13
Speaker 1: nobody like Yeah in Conception in Boston. Yeah, that's tough.
22:17
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
22:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, to lead rookies and yardage plus six fifty receiving
22:22
Speaker 2: yards six fifty point five, the over and the unders
22:24
Speaker 2: minus one ten I see five fifty six hundred. That
22:28
Speaker 2: means that to me is a pass. This one's comic. God,
22:30
Speaker 2: idn't know why they had it on there. To lead
22:32
Speaker 2: on TV receptions plus twenty five thousand.
22:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, put a dollar on zero, add an
22:39
Speaker 1: extra zero and then yeah, I.
22:40
Speaker 2: Know, I know, I know, I know that would be
22:42
Speaker 2: crazy if someone got that, and then yeah, I don't
22:45
Speaker 2: really like any of those those and then got it.
22:46
Speaker 2: See this one's fascinating, Dallas Goddter. I'll be interesting to
22:52
Speaker 2: see how this happens. Touchdown number total four and a
22:56
Speaker 2: half overs minus one twenty five and the unders plus
22:58
Speaker 2: one of five. So if you like the over means
23:01
Speaker 2: five touchdowns and more, you're giving up juice. Yeah, I mean,
23:07
Speaker 2: it's really insane. Eleven touchdowns, you know, I'll there weren't.
23:14
Speaker 2: They're technically touchdowns, but some of the not real passes
23:17
Speaker 2: in the pop past week, he crosses the grain, they
23:20
Speaker 2: do a shovel pass right plus four shovel pass. Yeah, eleven,
23:26
Speaker 2: think about this, folks. Over over his career four five, three, four, three,
23:30
Speaker 2: three two and eleven.
23:33
Speaker 1: Well, that's what makes the plus one oh five on
23:37
Speaker 1: the under four and a half touchdowns pretty interesting to me.
23:41
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll probably I would ignore it, probably, but
23:43
Speaker 1: I mean he's been under five touchdowns one two, three,
23:46
Speaker 1: four five six out of eight years. Last year was
23:49
Speaker 1: an anomaly. I know, looking under four and a half
23:53
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, you're gonna give me more than I'm
23:55
Speaker 1: putting down for that.
23:56
Speaker 2: I might, I might be h that's a that's a
23:59
Speaker 2: no play to me. To lead the NFL TV receptions
24:01
Speaker 2: at plus fifteen thousand gonna happen zero, Yeah, exactly. Now
24:07
Speaker 2: finally to push this off. Yeah, Carter Jalen Carter Defensive
24:11
Speaker 2: Player of the Year plus twenty five hundred. I just
24:16
Speaker 2: with with the with the shoulder, it's all gonna be
24:19
Speaker 2: a Miles Garrett obviously because of the trade. We'll see
24:21
Speaker 2: what happens. Then Cooper, Degene and Quinnon Mitchell plus sixty
24:25
Speaker 2: six hundred. See, Quinnon doesn't get regular season interceptions, he
24:30
Speaker 2: doesn't playoffs. We talked about on Tuesday show. I guess
24:34
Speaker 2: about Quinnon's hands not being great. It's the only part
24:37
Speaker 2: about him that's not great. But then he did great
24:39
Speaker 2: in the playoffs with with interceptions and Coop playing a
24:43
Speaker 2: new position no more corner safety and Nickel. He's a
24:48
Speaker 2: high he's a high profile. I could absolutely see that.
24:50
Speaker 2: I'd put some money on him. Absolutely. Dejeene of the
24:56
Speaker 2: two of them, you get, I mean ten buck ten bucks.
25:02
Speaker 1: The reason I do with Mitchell is because this award's
25:05
Speaker 1: gonna either go to a pass rusher, right or a cornerback,
25:09
Speaker 1: because that's ninety nine percent of the time what it is.
25:12
Speaker 1: And I don't see Carter as an interior pass rusher
25:16
Speaker 1: who's not Aaron Donald. He's great, but he never gets
25:18
Speaker 1: like and he at least he hasn't yet. He's not
25:20
Speaker 1: gonna give you eleven and a half to thirteen and
25:21
Speaker 1: a half sacks like Donald.
25:23
Speaker 2: Is because he's a double team.
25:24
Speaker 1: Then he's not that kind of like. He's more of
25:27
Speaker 1: a violent player than like the way Aaron Donald was
25:30
Speaker 1: so fast to the quarterback, right, but certain won it
25:33
Speaker 1: two years ago. I don't even think he had that
25:35
Speaker 1: many interceptions that year. He just nobody threw on him.
25:38
Speaker 1: He was that good. Uh oh no, he did. Yeah, yeah,
25:40
Speaker 1: he had four interceptions. It's just that he had one
25:42
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two return yards and then he was
25:45
Speaker 1: all part of a dominant defense. So if you're asking
25:47
Speaker 1: me between the three, I would, especially for the money
25:50
Speaker 1: you'd get, I would go Mitchell at plus sixty six hundred.
25:53
Speaker 1: I would not go to Gene because I can't see
25:56
Speaker 1: some hybrid safety nickelback winning it over a pass rusher
25:59
Speaker 1: or a your corner who plays the outside all the time.
26:02
Speaker 1: So I like the Mitchell one best.
26:04
Speaker 2: Coop's the better athlete of the two of them.
26:06
Speaker 1: I position doesn't lend itself to unless he gets like
26:12
Speaker 1: eight picks, you know what I'm saying.
26:13
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, yeah, that that's not gonna
26:15
Speaker 2: happen big plays or breakups or you know, he's a
26:17
Speaker 2: good tackler. We'll have to see what happens. But so
26:20
Speaker 2: that does it for the player props. Again, when we
26:22
Speaker 2: do this in late August, where we're gonna we'll find
26:25
Speaker 2: new ones because I want to get the right I
26:27
Speaker 2: want to get the SAX stats. I want to get
26:29
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I like to get SAX stats, you know.
26:34
Speaker 2: And by the way, we'll see all healthy is we'll
26:36
Speaker 2: have a better idea of how he looks a training kit.
26:38
Speaker 1: Great stuff. Really liked it. We did this last year.
26:40
Speaker 1: I had fun and it was even more fun this year.
26:43
Speaker 1: Allow allows us to see how other how the odds
26:45
Speaker 1: makers view the Eagles, both individually as a team, and
26:48
Speaker 1: then compare their analysis with ours. So that's always that's
26:52
Speaker 1: gonna do it for this episode of Inside the Birds,
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Speaker 1: the Leading Podcast and the Eagles Intel, and as always,
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Speaker 1: we thank you for flying with us inside the Birds. Wait, wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: a little tease, I forgot. I don't want to end
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Bloom. If you want to know why it never
27:24
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Speaker 1: this interview, because it's not just like he wasn't good enough.
27:29
Speaker 1: There's a specific some reasons that went into it that
27:33
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