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Building virtual power plants with AI and blockchain · AI for Founders with Ryan Estes

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Welcome back to AI for Founders. I'm Ryan Estes.
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Today we're going big on energy. My guest is Alex from Soulmag
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dot AI calling in from Bucharest.
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And he's building virtual power plants that let neighbors trade
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solar in real time. Think 12 houses topping off your
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EV while you sip coffee, all orchestrated by a small gateway
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device in a cloud brain that routes electrons like ways
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routes traffic. We get into how peer-to-peer
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energy swaps can pay prosumers closer to 85% of market price
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while Solimag takes a transparent 10%, why utilities
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charge 30 to 40% for distribution, and how micro
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grids scale from 100 homes to 10,000.
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We talked pilots in Brooklyn, Sweden and the Netherlands.
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Europe's 2026 rules in a path from 25,000,000 rooftops today
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to 100 million in five years. You will learn the hardware
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needed, the regulatory hoops, and how AI can price energy by
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distance. This is for climate tech
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All right, we're rolling. Alex, how are you?
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Welcome to the show. Great, great, great.
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How are you? I'm doing very well now.
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Where are you calling from today?
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I am in the Dracula's home, it's a Romania Bucharest.
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I don't know if you already visited, but if not you should.
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I would love to, you know, I'm not particularly gothic, but I
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could be. If you use this.
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You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Amazing. Now you're here to talk about
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your company, Soulmag, and I'm really excited about this
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because it's a it's very novel and I don't know if I understand
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it all the way. So why don't you just start us
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off with an introduction to Soulmag AI?
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Yeah. So after I did my first, let's
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say, exit you, and if it wasn't so big from my first company,
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for two months I was staring to stars and I was trying to
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discover a great meaning for my life.
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And in that point I discovered Kardashian's scale.
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It was a Russian science fiction guy which wrote it in 1964.
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And he said that the the type one of the civilization will
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have the capacity of harness the whole energy from from our star
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on earth. And I said, OK, the energy will
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drive me away, far away from from from this point.
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So I start with Sol Mug, which is, which has a simple vision to
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transform our civilization from 0.73 where we are to a type 1.
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And what actually is it's a platform which builds virtual
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power plants. And that means we are collecting
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the datas from solar panel owners and the we are simulates
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us as a big plant. Yeah.
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And here we are. We are in the beginning of
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revolutionizing the way of transferring energy between you
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and your neighbor. And that's that's the name of
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peer-to-peer energy transfer. Unbelievable.
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That's so cool. So basically you're harvesting
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multiple people's solar panels and bring them into one.
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Is it is like a repository or is it kind of peer-to-peer?
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So like if I am in excess I can give sell it to my neighbor kind
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of thing. Live, it's a live thing because
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if, if you have let's say that you have your EV, your
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electrical vehicle in, in charging mode and you need more
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power than you are producing with your solar panels.
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If even if you have solar panels.
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And in that point you can harness yeah, from other 12
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houses in your name in your community or something like
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that. Or in another way, maybe you
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have some floating houses on a, on, on a lake and you could use
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and share the energy between you and your, your neighbors using
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the platform. Yeah.
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Incredible. So what's, what's the hardware
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component? Because I'm thinking about
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Denver kind of how solar power's done.
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I've got some solar panels up there and I think it's just a
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charge back to the utility company.
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I and I honestly don't know how that works.
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It seems like magic to me. So if I was to like bring
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Soulmag if it was available here, what do I need hardware
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wise to make it happen? Yeah, So we find this problem
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since the beginning and is the same thing as Graham Bell had
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with his phone, the same problem when he invented the phone, the
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first one, it was impossible to call another, another guy.
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So he also sold another device, another phone to that guy.
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But in that point you just could call your friend or your mom and
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you wish to call all of your friends.
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So he, he goes to a community and he installed those, those
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phones in the whole community and create a network is the
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same, the same thing of what we are doing with our gateway
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device which should be installed at your home nearby your solar
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panels or our device which should be installed at your home
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if you don't have solar panels. Based on that, we are collecting
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those datas in, in a cloud. We have the aggregator license
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and we can switch the energy between you and your friend
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telling him or seeing that in in his behavior that he will arrive
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home at 3 and he will start start charging his car and he
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needs more energy and he you will be his supplier.
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That's that's the way. Yeah, it's very it's very new,
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especially for Europe. We will have that the
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legislation for that since 2026, the project name it's Picasso.
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We didn't find the how it works in US for now even if we are
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incorporated in Delaware, but yeah, it should work.
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It's a brilliant idea. I'm, I'm surprised no one has
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done this before. Is, is there a considerable
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pushback from the utilities? I'm assuming that they want that
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energy, right? I mean, right now, especially
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with all the compute that's in use from AI and everything else
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like energy is of premium resource, you know, so, So what
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does compliance been like? What were some of the early
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hoops you had to jump through to get it off the?
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Yeah, imagine that we actually we're fighting with the energy
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suppliers on the same energy because you you have your
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contract with your energy supplier now and the having so
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mug you'll just enter in a new entity and you'll share your
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energy in that area creating from small micro grids to large
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scales on the full country based on that.
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Thinking also about Indonesia where they installed so much
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solar panels that the the grid output, the grid power goes to
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1/2 because everybody has now solar panels there.
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We also have this fight with with energy supplier.
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But yeah, responding on on your question, we just use about 40%
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from our total production on Earth.
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So we don't actually need those this power yet.
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The servers, the a a servers are not using so much power now.
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But maybe and what I'm thinking it's the humanoids part could
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could start using this big number of terawatts and that's
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why we actually need to create those consumers.
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So I think this is a great direction.
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There are only 50 million electrical vehicles and there
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are 1.5 billion cars all over the world.
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Those 50 million are consuming 7 times of Romania or as Germany
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consumed now. So it's nothing those electrical
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vehicles are are not using so much.
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So yeah, we need to discover a way of using those, the surplus
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of energy. I had a talk with somebody about
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the total servers which are using not so much, not more than
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the electrical vehicles. The biggest consumer on earth
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are still the factories, the steel factories and yeah, those
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in those big guys. You bet, you bet.
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Now, is there a blockchain component to this?
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Yeah. We think about that because
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we've seen that Cibium network creates this dependency between
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a user which would use the router to be part of a network.
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They sold about 2 million equipments, but we didn't see
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this big connection between that yet, maybe even because the
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market it's not so mature. I'm believing this web tree and
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crypto technology and block chain technology, but more as a
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store of value for now. Like it's good to, it's fun to
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invest in bit brand Ethereum or in other rock chain rock chains.
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But yeah, because of the volatility, it could create a
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different perspective of the project now.
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Yeah. You know, I can see I just so
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many use cases. This is such a cool product,
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particularly for me. So I just moved from downtown
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Denver out to the sticks in this neighborhood called Sterling
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Ranch. It's out in the country and it's
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a brand new whole development neighborhood that they're
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building. And it's unique because it's, I
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think one of the, it's one of the top, our first five
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communities that's basically been built top to bottom as kind
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of like a smart community. And what they're calling smart
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far as it has like fiber optic Internet, everything is wired
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for that. Every single utility is on an
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app. It has shut offs and it's all
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run through your phone. Everything has solar panels.
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It's all, you know, very water sparse.
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It has its own water source. It's very independent for a, a
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neighborhood. Now the vision is for 8000 homes
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and there's about 1800 homes here now.
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And they're building them very, very quickly.
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So as a result, there's probably about 40 or 50% capacity.
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About half the houses are brand new and just sitting empty, but
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they all have functioning solar panels on top of them.
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You know, if they had, you know, Soulmag, then we could be
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harvesting the energy that are otherwise the houses are sitting
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there unoccupied. That's charging my 3 electric
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vehicles and my electric bikes and, and everything else, you
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know. So from a from a consumer
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standpoint, is there am I, am I getting a better price from my
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neighbor if I'm purchasing my neighbor's power as opposed to
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going to a utility? Yeah.
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For, for that example today an energy supplier gives you about
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30 to 40% from the price which he sells the actual actually the
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energy, which is not fair because for your energy is
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creating about 170% profit or more than than if you do.
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So we just charge 10% for every transaction on our platform.
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And we are trying to push forward the legislation on the
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distribution part because yeah, you will use the infrastructure,
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but it's a big difference between carrying the energy from
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a nuclear plant 200 kilometers away in the middle of of the
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city then just transferring it to your neighbor.
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They should have different, different costs for the
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distribution part. So yeah, it's actually you will
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get about 85% for the normal price referring to the exchange
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market for for the energy exchange market which you are
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working where we are. You are working, yeah.
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It's such a big idea. It's just incredible now.
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Where is this available right now?
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There are some pilots all over the world.
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One of them I think in Brooklyn was one of the 1st 5 pilots also
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they've tried them in Sweden. There are also some labs in in
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Netherlands. But now since we discovered that
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more and more people are using solar panels and they are
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willing to have this autonomy since different wars starts
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starts on different places on on Earth, I think yeah, they, they,
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they could start being on a scale or because more and more
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company appear with this solution.
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Now one of the biggest have sold already 11,000 devices and
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they're starting to map the yeah, they're starting to map
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for those communities and start to create this opportunity for
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them. There are only 25 million people
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with solar panels and arts from 8 million.
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So we are still very, very early.
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What? Yeah, imagine that we will keep
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having this growth till the next five years and we will reach 100
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million as there is predicted and the yeah, we will scale
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those communities on from I know 100 homes, 1010 thousand.
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And after that you interconnect the whole the whole city between
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yeah using this local production of energy.
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But even then, I I I still have some issues on doing my reason
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of reaching this type 1 civilization level.
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Because if we really wish to arrive in that point, sorry for
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talking too much, please interrupt me right if you.
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Please go ahead, keep going. So we we have a three to 4%
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growth of energy year by year on Earth.
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We are producing now 20 terawatts per hour.
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For reaching this level of Type 1 civilization, we should gain
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8700 X more. But if we keep this 3 to 4%
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growth in 300 years we will be able to absorb the whole energy
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from the sun, from the sun. But using solar panels for that
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it will be impossible because we need, we will need with this
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efficiency from the solar panels, which is about 24%, we
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will need 23 Tera surfaces so it could absorb the whole energy.
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So that means we we really need to compact them in, in a way.
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So we need to scale up to the outer space necessary and we
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need to try to use the nuclear way of creating energy or other
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ways, I don't know, sending some monoids on Mars and start to put
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them to start R and DS R&D there with nuclear plants or something
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like micro nuclear plants because it's very risky here,
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yes and. But for the beginning, yeah, we,
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we are here because the the whole network start to be
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congested because those prosumers or people which have
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solar panels on the roof are only injecting energy in the
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middle of the day. And we are trying to give them
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lessons on how to use those energy, this energy, keep them,
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keep the surplus in batteries using them and create the whole
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network. Very smart.
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For for the next 10 years or now, yeah.
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So cool, now take me back. So you have an exit from your
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company, a small exit, but enough to give you a little bit
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of space. And you said you were looking
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for meaning and you came across like this Type 1 civilization,
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which I'm familiar with a little bit.
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Talk about what you were feeling at that time and and how you
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kind of started to make sense of your next steps.
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Yeah, I was starting my first company as a joke.
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We was students and me and my friend have enough parties in
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our apartments. So any some points?
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His mother came in Bucharest, the capital of Romania, and
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start yelling at us because it was a almost a lot of alcohol on
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tables and stuff like that. And we said, OK, we we should
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build an app so somebody could came at your home and clean the
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stuff and we just make it. And the one of the investors
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here in Romania, Colleen Fusa, which has other investments, he,
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he see an opportunity in that we scaled 26 people.
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Now it moves on a home management, 100 apartments and
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stuff like that in the management.
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And in that point, I, I sold my equity and I tried to find a
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bigger way of helping Polar. And yeah, I discovered that
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growing our civilization not for maybe I will not be here over 70
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or 100 years, but there should be someone who boosted the Boost
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US order because 7000 years ago we discovered fire, the first
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source of energy and now we've multiplied by seven point 5.7
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million times the energy that we are creating here.
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So it's like a small heart which start popping and now we arrive
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in in a bigger way. And looking further to year
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12,000 as Asimov was written in Foundation or different science
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fiction books, we should go out from there as soon as possible
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to evolve more. And I think it's for for sure in
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the next 100 years we will be multiplanetary.
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Well, you say we. I'm not going anywhere.
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I've seen the surface of those planets.
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Looks terrible. I'm gonna go.
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I'm gonna go up to the mountains and go fishing.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, you you can also do that
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thing, I don't know, in, in on another planet or Yeah, you, you
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could just stay here and chill out because you'll you'll you've
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been bored here. I don't know if I would have the
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defining together. And I, I love the ambition.
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So, so you're, you're feeling you, you become inspired by
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energy and power and delivering humanity to the stars, which is
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amazing. I, I love astronomy, you know,
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and always have since I was a kid.
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How did this idea of power sharing solar cells come about?
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And what were your next steps? Did you then go on to raise or
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how did you start to build a team and resources around the
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idea? Yeah, so we are a team of two.
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We are looking to we started the pre seed round now where we have
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an Angel committed with actually there are two angels committed
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with 60K from a total of 150 K. It's a small round and we are
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looking to find other angels all over the world with big vision,
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but also with some background on growing start-ups because yeah,
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we wish to push it's it's unless to a series B or somewhere like
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that. And yeah, we actually will
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install tomorrow the 1st device. So we could start to get the
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behavior from from the user and start to optimize the energy
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consumption from them side with a 30% from what we would predict
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now. And from that point, we could
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just, we, we already have 3 partnerships with the solar
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panels installers because they will be our distributors.
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We have a request of 100 devices already from one of them.
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And since we were have those first batch of devices, we will
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go further to scale up models so we could raise the Series A seed
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round of 1,000,000 and so on. Yeah, we were.
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It seems like for this is a logical acquisition for, you
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know, a solar panel manufacturing company.
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Were you able to secure patents on the technology?
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Yeah, we've actually our first Angel.
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It's teaming Euro, which sold some patents to Facebook.
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He was working in Sweden for Volvo for 10 years and he
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actually creates the simulator for Volvo Cars, which will enter
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on the streets now autonomous. And he sold all the spectrum of
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patents which implied the generation of image on each type
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of screen from glasses because he also gets some rewards from
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Apple to every type of projection of the image.
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And yeah, we have him in our team, he will show us how to do
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that. But for patents, there will be
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needed unless 300K. So we could have them all over
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the place. But the most important thing in
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this business, it's actually the network because yeah, it's a
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simple device, you can build it, but if you don't have actually
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the virtual power plant and the control of the entire structure,
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you you don't have nothing. And this device, yeah, some of
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the people that was question questioning us, why are we don't
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go directly to Victor and our frontiers, which are Inverter's
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brands and get the datas. And yeah, it's a security
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bridge. It's like going to Elon Musk to
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request the data from Tesla. She would have said, yeah, OK,
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you can get the datas, but you can't control this.
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So that's why we are going one by one in each home who puts
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those devices to get the agreement from the user and to
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create actually the network. Because we will be based not
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only the not only for the pricing growth, but also for
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this type of community because there are other kind of people
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in in this sector which are thinking autonomously.
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Yeah. Yeah, well, and I love it too
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because it it like creates incentive to advance solar
31:53
technology in the solar market in general, largely because now
31:56
it's decentralized, right. So now if I'm producing enough
32:00
for my home, that's great. But like if I've got like a real
32:02
good source, like, why wouldn't I expand to your point, Why
32:06
wouldn't I put a boat on a lake with all these solar panels that
32:09
now I can distribute to my peers and basically not have to kiss
32:13
the ring as much? You know, you can go out there
32:16
and, and create a little side hustle if you will sell an
32:19
energy with solar panels. And I think as the, the
32:22
technology only gets better and better and cheaper and cheaper,
32:25
like this becomes like an an amazing resource, particularly
32:29
in America where there's, you know, 3 grids.
32:32
You know, you got, I think east or you got east West and you got
32:35
Texas and Texas. Every year now is like almost on
32:38
the verge of collapse. You know, they're probably
32:40
coming out of it now. But like, I don't know if you've
32:42
been to Texas in July and August, but it's like a
32:45
miserable place to be. It's insanely hot, you know, So
32:48
everybody runs their AC at the same time and their grid can
32:50
barely handle it, you know? So this seems like an
32:54
interesting decentralized solution that you know, not only
32:57
like solves the problem for power, but also creates
32:59
opportunity through capital markets.
33:05
Yeah, True, true, true. Do you know how how many
33:09
prosumers are in US? No, I don't.
33:16
Yeah. I I will find out after this
33:18
call what I know. What I know is that there are
33:24
1,000,000 in Netherlands and there are the bigger biggest
33:29
number in Europe. For now we have 250 K in
33:34
Romania, which is great because five years ago there was none.
33:41
So we were unlocked this space. What else?
33:50
You know, yeah, I didn't have a. Question.
33:54
Go ahead, Sorry. Can can I say, yeah, I will let
33:58
you go after that. About the AI part, we we are
34:02
starting to look on a geometrical deep learning
34:06
algorithm which is used by ways you know ways acquired by
34:10
Google, which is for routing the traffic.
34:15
That's software works like they they are getting the data from
34:20
your car identify the best route to the to your destination and
34:26
we will find the match between how the energy could flow
34:29
exactly like that in the network because in that way you should
34:33
pay more or less on your energy. It's it depends from where
34:38
you're getting this energy because as I told you getting is
34:42
from 200 kilometers away from a nuclear plant should be more
34:47
expensive than getting from your neighbor.
34:49
So yeah, we should, we should allocate that one excellent with
34:56
the. Yeah, totally agree.
34:58
Now this is such a big idea and you're such an early stage.
35:03
It's great to talk to you right now.
35:05
The audience of this podcast is vast and has lots of resources.
35:09
What would be helpful to you right now really getting to the
35:12
next phase? Is it would it be Angel
35:15
commitments? What what would be the the the
35:17
best way this audience could help you?
35:22
Yeah, as I told you, we are looking for an Angel and yeah
35:27
that there will be a great opportunity to find somebody
35:31
actually for from US because we are incorporated especially
35:37
there because we are looking to target the US market after
35:41
closing this precid round. But also or they could join our
35:49
wait list on the websites even they are consumers or prosumers
35:56
or they already have solar panels on the roofs.
36:00
And they could also reach us if they are real estate development
36:07
company or if they are an EV charging station company or if
36:13
they are manufacturing as you said solar panels manufacturer
36:19
company or solar panels installers.
36:22
So all of those spectrum which wish to get the platform and
36:27
create them or community already and to distribute these those
36:33
gateways, yeah, they could reach us and you know everybody,
36:40
anyone who wish to get involved in the project in in a way.
36:46
Well, I will definitely make sure that that gets translated
36:50
so that folks can reach out to you if, if they're in a position
36:54
to do so, 'cause I, I, I think this is like, it's a brilliant
36:56
idea. What I want to do now is go to
36:59
the lightning round and we're going to start with the founder
37:02
challenge question. Are you ready?
37:06
Yeah, that's cool. The The Founder Challenge
37:10
question is brought to you by kickcaster.com.
37:13
If you go to media.kickcaster.com/founder
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Dash Challenge, you can find it. We'll put it in the show notes.
37:20
So there's four categories. It's either tough, scandalous,
37:25
explosive or philosophical. What category would you like to
37:28
choose? Let's go to explosive.
37:33
Explosive. I love it.
37:36
OK, what's a time you've taken a shortcut that has backfired
37:41
spectacularly? OK, let me think our question.
37:58
And you can skip if you want. I can skip it, yeah.
38:07
I've got a better. 1. I've got a better one for you.
38:11
What's something? What's something you believe
38:13
about the future that most people think is crazy?
38:21
I, I think that we in some point we will have a global coin in or
38:32
a global measurement of transactions in watts in energy.
38:41
I think we would transform everything in energy.
38:45
And the Bitcoin tried to do this thing, but it's used so much
38:51
energy, it's not reliable on the transactional part, but it's a
38:55
good store of value for now. But I think in some point in a
38:59
globalization way, when there are we already have two planets
39:05
occupied, let's say, we could find the way of using the a
39:10
single way of addressing to each other in watts.
39:15
So watts would be like kind of like a coin on the on the chain
39:21
that could be exchanged. Interesting.
39:23
Yeah, it would have any type of name.
39:26
I don't know it would be something, but it it will be
39:30
general for all of us. If you were going into school to
39:37
university right now, your first year of college, knowing what
39:41
you know now, what would you study?
39:45
Yeah, you know, entering this in this energy sector, it make you
39:51
so serious in some points and that I would say that they would
39:55
love to learn how to sing or I don't know on.
40:00
Piano, guitar or something like that.
40:02
Or creating a band, doing something on artistic part,
40:06
playing in a movie or some art stuff.
40:10
Yet I because I'm an engineer and even if with my first start
40:17
up I I didn't use my background I still have this mind already
40:23
created. Then they need to put stuff in
40:25
place and create and expand a lot of things, yeah.
40:30
And yeah. I wish to be an artist.
40:33
Yeah, do you? Do you?
40:35
Music. Yeah.
40:36
Do you think they does it harmonize each other?
40:38
What what is the the benefit of having an engineering mind but
40:42
studying music in in arts? Yeah, I think I, I have a
40:49
creative mind that think it's it would help me or I I could
40:56
easily match with the creative part even starting now.
41:03
Yeah, I think that's why you address that type of question.
41:07
Yeah, Yeah, great. I love it.
41:11
I love how the the inception of your first business, it was, you
41:15
know, it it was, was it your mom or was somebody else's mom was
41:19
yelling at you for having too many beers around in the house.
41:23
Now this, this song, this audience loves business ideas.
41:29
Is there anything else that his mom is yelling him at about that
41:33
maybe you could turn into another business?
41:49
I don't know, maybe if there's an OCD kind of business, you
41:56
could, you could create something in that, that
41:59
direction or yeah, unlock your disconnect, your OCD or I don't
42:09
know, I was. Thinking of all the things my
42:12
mom yelled at me about, I'm like, man, there's got to be a
42:14
bunch of business ideas. Seem like she's never stopped
42:16
yelling, you know? Let's say you sold Soul Mag for
42:22
a billion dollars today. What do you do tomorrow?
42:27
This is it, yeah. I would directly go to find the
42:33
place, a big place on Earth where I could start to a factory
42:38
of of humanoids and I would start to try learning them how
42:49
to build a nuclear power plant or some stuffing in that
42:54
direction. So I could send them after that
42:56
with one of the Elon Musk or Bezos rockets to Mars and get
43:02
some place there to try to keep pushing my vision on throwing us
43:09
from 0.73 level of the civilization to type 1.
43:14
Yeah, if you had the opportunity to go to Mars, would you do it?
43:26
Maybe if there are already 1,000,000 people there.
43:32
Yeah, yeah, you're. Not going to be the first
43:35
though. Yeah, yeah.
43:38
I'll not be the first. Yeah, it seems cool, but I'm
43:42
also afraid of heights, so I don't know if I'd enjoy that.
43:46
It seems very scary, you know? Yeah, yeah, now did.
43:51
Did you jump with a parachute yet?
43:58
No, definitely not. I'm not feeling that either.
44:02
Heck no. No way.
44:04
Yeah. Like I said, I like fishing, you
44:06
know, and I'll I I like the canyons.
44:08
And so I'll see people mounting or rock climbing, you know, I'm
44:11
like, you guys are crazy. Where you going?
44:13
The fish are down here. Like what?
44:15
What's to go up there? Why would you even do that?
44:17
I don't even understand it. If that's the real.
44:21
Nice, what are some AI tools that are helping you build this
44:25
company? I think lovable it's one of the
44:31
best websites builder, but more overdose AI markets, which
44:43
explodes with different builders, including courser and
44:48
so on. We already have also we also
44:53
have in Romania design verse, which creates more than lovable
44:58
one single page. Here is a hardware part and we
45:04
can't actually use so much a A for now.
45:09
Maybe in the future using some also some robots which will
45:14
build the gateways. It will they will be needed with
45:18
the we are not we are not using them so much now.
45:27
It's yeah for for building a company.
45:31
I think you need the weekend for just launching it with those
45:36
tools. And I show that to I, I build
45:39
something with my brother or I just sleep on it on in the
45:45
middle of the day. And I just created concert upon
45:50
call with him, which is a connection between the zodiacal
45:53
sign, but also with some personal character stuff.
45:57
And we build it in less than 12 hours, including the open air
46:04
and stuff like that. And I was addressing A
46:06
programmer and he was said, he said that we was we we could
46:12
build this in one year with a team before this artificial
46:16
intelligence and the AI stuff will appear.
46:20
Yeah. So as as I am thinking about
46:24
type 1 civilization that it could be possible now in 300
46:28
years with some disruptive technology which should appear
46:33
and for for sure they will appear with so much AI, it could
46:39
be possible maybe in less than 100 years to reach a big level
46:46
of civilization of evolution. Yeah.
46:50
Credible Alex, this has been amazing.
46:52
I really appreciate the time. What's the best place for people
46:55
to connect with you online? Yeah, they could find me on
47:00
LinkedIn. I'm Alex Nikwara there or I I'm
47:06
playing on TikTok, but I'm posting the Romanian stuff there
47:12
with sports. I I I just tried the kite surf
47:18
this weekend. It's it's very nice.
47:21
Yeah, did pretty hard after after it's counter intuitive
47:27
because in in in life, if you are trying to protect yourself
47:33
in some points you are you are getting your arms behind your
47:38
body and here when when the kites it's starting to gets you
47:43
out. You are thinking that you should
47:45
grab it, but normally you should push it because when you're push
47:50
it, it will go slow. If you're grabbing it, he will
47:53
expand and you'll get more windy.
47:56
So if if the hearts leave, the life hits you hard just to be as
48:04
you should be in kite surf and let it be just yeah.
48:10
It looks so fun. Yeah, yeah, you could do on on
48:16
your fishing experiences. It's too much work.
48:22
I'm taking it easy. I have a friend in in Chicago
48:27
which goes to fish someone. Oh nice.
48:31
Is that? Well, you should connect us.
48:34
They want to come out to Colorado.
48:36
I'll take them a blue lining up in the in the Backcountry.
48:39
That's what I like to do. Sure, sure.
48:43
I'll connect you after that, yeah.
48:44
I love it, Alex, thank you so much.
48:46
For your time. Thank you.
48:49
Thank you very much, Ryan. It was a pleasure.
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