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State of the Program 2023 · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner Podcast along with my partners Brian Siegler, Jonathan
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Talley, and in the building tonight.
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This episode is brought to you by Doctor Lord Jeremy Count at
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the Main Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
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I'm Jeremy. You are Jeremy 301.
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Yay, Jeremy. That's right.
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That's right. I said it last year.
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I'll say it this year. He pays the bills, he fills your
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pills. He Jeremy counts.
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And once a year, the episode pretty good is all his tally.
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Jeremy, how's everybody doing tonight?
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Oh, man, I'm feeling good. I got a little.
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I got a little Hardywood Bourbon barrel GBS rolling on this side
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here. So Tally, we're doing good.
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Tally what you sipping. On man, we started off.
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We've already started with a little Eagle rare.
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That's what we started with earlier.
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But we going to bust open this special gift for my brother.
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This is a very special Hennessy Hip Hop edition.
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Got knobs on the cover. Oh shit.
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So hey, hey. In the program.
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Hey, let's get going. We got to do it proper, man.
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We got to do it. Proper.
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Let's get it going. This year I've actually decided
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to be a little more responsible with being responsible to me is
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drinking a 12 or a six pack before I do this.
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But. Right now I'm drinking Parkway
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Brewing out of Roanoke. Get Bent IPA, my favorite beer
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ever. It is so unabashedly hip.
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It would make Andrew Parent blush.
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I love. This.
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Gear. It is wonderful.
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Stay away from the Jameson, please.
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Stay away from the Jameson I'm. Staying away.
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From it, I'm still going black out.
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House I'm. Most.
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Here, Tally. This is what I'm doing tonight
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boys. Little.
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Old Oh, OK. Hundred 100 proof.
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I got some Coors Lights 2 sitting over here.
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The banquet beer we poured heavy the first time.
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First of all, 365 days ago. This was not a fucking fun
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episode to do. It was fun.
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It was. Fun.
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It was fun in a. Different way it wasn't.
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It was fun in a different way. It wasn't fun to talk about it.
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Was fun to do. It was fun to get.
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You had moonshine last year. That's how bad it was.
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He had moonshine. I drink an entire 5th of Evan
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Williams white label in three hours.
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That was fucking dumb. I don't know how much.
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I don't know how many. James.
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All right, I was staying full Fran Scotch, but to this year,
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before we start anything, the boys look back, raise a glass,
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get into a bowl in a few days here.
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By the way, I lied to y'all. My ass is going to the bowl now.
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You going to the bowl? Now, Yes.
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Story Real quick. So.
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Story time. Story time.
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Quick story so. I couldn't go for a couple
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reasons. A kids have doctor's
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appointments. Well, the doctor screwed up.
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The doctor's appointment scheduled like a week early.
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Wife couldn't make it. She had to reschedule late.
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Great. Cool.
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Thought about going. Saw the prices.
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That hurts. That hurts a while.
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I just paid for a bunch of kids toys for Christmas.
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Jeremy knew how to go to that this year.
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But all of a sudden my cousin who lives down in Charleston
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gives me a call. Hey man, what's going on?
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I'm like nothing. He's like, you want to go to the
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bowl game? He's like, of course I do.
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I'd love to if I could, but I'm like spending 100 bucks driving
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up there back. Brian can't go because he's got
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shit already going on that day. He's like, what if I told you I
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have free tickets? Say what?
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Come to find out one of his cousins, one of his wife's
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cousins is actually AAT, an athletic trainer down at two
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lanes. You got two free tickets.
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So he's like, he's driving up here.
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We're going to go together. I am excited to go.
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I've been looking at the forecast.
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It's going to rain like crazy. Yeah, he always goes with the
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secret lab chair. Y'all didn't know that.
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Always with the secret lab chair.
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But boys, we got a fun episode tonight.
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We got a lot of special guests. But Jeremy, what's been going on
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in your life the last 12 months? I think some shit changed,
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right? I got a baby now.
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How's that? Treating you.
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It's been awesome, actually. Like, I wake up early anyway, so
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I just like wake up at like 5 or 6 and I take care of her for a
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little like few hours. And then I go into work and it's
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not so bad. I go to bed early like an old
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person, want to eat dinner at 5:00, but, you know, whatever.
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Jerry said. I got old real quick.
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Yeah, it's not a bad adjustment. I kind of like being old, being
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old. I'm grouchy enough it works.
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You sleep when that baby sleep. Yep, that was you did all right.
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We've adapted well, Emily said. Great with her, like she's
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coming along, hitting all her milestones, doing most of them
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early. I'm happy.
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Fuck, I'm even happier that we're back on track.
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Hell yeah. Back on track and just a few
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days ago obviously, I mean I watched the whole thing and I'm.
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I know Brian was trying to watch it, tell him that you were
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jumping on it. But the the class of 2024, I
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mean big, big class, man. Big class, big class, small
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class, small class, big class from a standpoint of how would
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it be for the program. It means a lot to the program.
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It means a ton to the program because of where these guys are
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coming from and that overall ranking the overall ranking is
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is in the top 30. I mean that's Brian you always
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talked about it's the key 88 right at 88 number world and
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this is like an 87.9 class right there, right there.
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So it's it's a lot of fun stuff and some of that is kind of
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bullshit. But we're we'll get to that.
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We're going to get to that. We going to talk about it.
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We're definitely going to talk. We're going to let some shit fly
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on that. I'm, I'm, I'm damn sure about
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that. So Jeremy, I know when we can't.
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Now we all. We all met up at Purdue by the
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way. The last time most four were in
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a room together was at the farmhouse Purdue weekend.
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We were taking Jameson shots. Then we worked.
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We were taking Jameson like triples in glasses.
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I ain't going to lie, I felt a little out of place when we went
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to farmhouse, 'cause I ain't see no fucking black people.
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I think it's because all of the black people's in the back
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cooking, 'cause that was some fucking good food.
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When they brought that food out. What are?
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You talking about we have a robust black population in
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Christiansburg. Well, I didn't see no black
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people in farmhouse. I've seen a whole bunch of rich
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white people and they. That is Farmhouse.
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So yeah, I was a little looking around a little bit kind of, but
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but once we got in there and and got the drinking and that food
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started coming out, hell that I it was right on point.
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But yeah, the the food was good we we were taking Jameson shots.
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I think there was some tequila mix in there at some point
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somehow I. Don't.
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Know maybe, I don't know, something got mixed in there.
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The only thing I remember about that weekend is the the the
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freaking, the the microburst that came through in South end
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zone and hailstones pelleting us.
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Yeah, we we were getting. Clipped from the side, The whole
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side just hanging out there and Jeremy, you think unfortunately
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you didn't get to go to that game.
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Did you make it to any games this year with, with?
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I didn't. Get to go to any games this year
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because of the baby. We had a scene where we were
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going to go and like my mom got a kidney stone and then dad got
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like fucking COVID slash flu slash whatever he did a few
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different times and so we did not get a chance to go to any
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games and so my tickets that I pay thousands of dollars.
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For every year. I just gave away.
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Well, you're that good of a person though.
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You just give them away to people that will go scream their
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lungs out. Selling good tickets is tacky.
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If you get tickets as good as I get, if you sell them, it's
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fucking tacky. Give them to your friends,
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they'll appreciate. It there we go, there you go,
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there you go. But that, that, that's you
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didn't get to go to that game. But I think when we sat there
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after that weekend, you know it was like one in one and and you
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and you didn't know where you where, where we were.
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I remember, I think I texted the white big not long after that
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and I I I was not in a good place with the team mentally.
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None of us were in a good place for a while.
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And and then she had started changing.
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And then she had started changing.
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And then what happened? But you know, we got a lot.
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We're going low tonight. Y'all, y'all.
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If you've ever not, first of all, let's just, well, can't do
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anything about that. But if you've never listened to
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this episode before, if you are the faint of heart, you probably
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want. To go ahead and turn it off.
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Right now I'm going to just go ahead and let you.
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Know no. What was?
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This thing last year that sent me the card.
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Oh, that was amazing. That was the best thing ever man
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ever. I think his name was Joseph or
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something. Joseph.
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It was Joseph. But Joseph sent you a card.
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First episode he ever listened to of our podcast.
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It was Jeremy. When he was on with us for
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staying the program last year, he was like, I'm not listening
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to it again. I'm gonna send Jeremy a card.
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Author anymore. And it was just like
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motherfucker. I was on there doing most of the
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cursing. What are you talking about?
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But if you This is the first time you've ever listened to
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watch this, this, this gets sideways.
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Because every thought that's in our brains, not only our brains,
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the folks we're going to bring in.
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Did we let it flow tonight? Because we we went through.
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Ever since August, we've been focused on game game game game
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games, Tally, Drain and Hennessy.
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We're having fun. We're staying loose.
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And in over the last, over the course of this year, there were
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guys popping up in the mentions of our episodes and all of a
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sudden we started looking at last names and started noticing
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their Facebook and their Twitter and like, wait a second, I think
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that's and I think that's. But we they, they they we hit
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them up and said do y'all want to come on tonight.
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And they did. So without further ado, we got
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our first two guests kind of walking into the bar state of
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the program, introducing First from Houston, TX.
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He is the father of #1 hiring drones.
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QB one. QB one hiring drones.
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He is an assistant coach down in Texas and I had your Kevin.
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I'm sorry I had your Twitter up to give your school a shout out
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and I'm going to do that before I pull you on because that's
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just who I am. He is the an assistant coach for
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Clearbrook Football and Clearbrook Minton's track.
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He is Kevin Drones. Mr. Drones, How are you tonight,
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Sir? I'm good.
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How y'all doing? We are doing well.
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We We really. Appreciate.
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Hey, drones. What's up?
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We good? So you got your shirt.
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Oh, yes, Sir. Yes, Sir.
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Shirt came through today. Y'all see it QB one?
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Hey Kevin. Kevin looked out for me.
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They've been wearing these things all season and I just get
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to asking questions. I'm like, hey man, when you get
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that shirt from, he said. You know what I got you.
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So my guy Kevin looked out for me.
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I appreciate you. We appreciate you coming on.
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Hey, you got the family in the house?
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OK. We got some more Ronnie Super
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Anti right there. OK.
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Nice. Nice.
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But Kevin you started popping up and I mentioned and watching
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weekly and hey we really appreciate that.
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We hope you know the our our thoughts on this stuff is we've
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all been long time Hokie fans and the steps we saw Kyron take
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this year were unbelievable. It it it it hearkened us back.
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I mean, I go back when in the heyday when the Hokies were
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running 1011 games a year, going to national championship, it it
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it made me think about that again.
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So we appreciate you joining us now.
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We got one more person to bring on, and just a few days ago,
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this young man's son committed to Virginia Tech.
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This young man's son is the greatest wide receiver in VHSL
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history. Now I'm giving y'all some hints,
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right? Pretty big hints.
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Pretty big hints. His son attends Green Run High
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School. He will be enrolling early in
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just a few weeks. I loved Coach Pride the other
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day, joking with all those guys. Y'all ready for 6:00 AM workout,
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6:00 AM workouts. Man, they're coming fast.
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But his son is healing Brody Adams and if y'all heard him,
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he's been on some of our spaces before, just a few days ago with
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Tally. Mr. Chris Lester.
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My God, what's up fellas? How y'all doing man?
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Doing good. Thank you so much for jumping on
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with us tonight. Like Curtis has already talked
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about this this is loose. We're going to keep it loose.
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But we appreciate both of y'all jumping on with us.
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Just loving to reminisce about where we've been this year and
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where we're going next year. I mean that this is what this is
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all about and and just having some fun drinking some beers
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drinking some some some spirits here.
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So it's what we like to do before the holidays and we thank
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you for joining us and sharing your wisdom and and everything
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you got to say about this program and and and the boys
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that you've helped raise and and and and grow into the men that
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they are on the field and off the field.
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Well hey man, I'm, I'm excited to be on with you guys, man.
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Big fans of y'all, Definitely a big fan of Mr. Drones man.
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You know, hadn't had a chance to tell him.
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But man, super excited about him, man.
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His family's amazing and his kid was one of of many reasons why
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we decided to come to Virginia Tech.
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I'm glad to have you all appreciate it.
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Amen. Glad to be here from home.
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Glad to be here. Thank you, man.
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Thank you. Glad to be here.
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Love hearing that and it is home.
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So I want to start with because you just mentioned it kind of
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there, Chris, about Tyron's a big reason and I am pronouncing
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it right. Correct, Kevin.
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Kyron's like Byron with the kids.
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What you told us that night, Kyron, Because whenever.
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We got the tie rod. The thing where we were saying
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Tyrod, it's actually Tyrod. We were like Tyrod.
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What? They still say Tyrod.
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They still mess with Kyra's name.
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It's going. To continue to be but but for
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this podcast we got corrected quickly and we've not messed it
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up. But I want to hit Kevin real
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quick because Kevin a year ago Kyra made the decision to come
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to Virginia Tech in just a few short days ago the portal.
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It was a big portal day, but can you just He was already down at
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Baylor, so you had went through the high school stuff and we're
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going to talk about that a little while, Chris, But what
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was it like? Because he's been at Baylor,
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he's already in school and I'm sure you had a lot to you're
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you're his dad. I'm sure a lot was discussed.
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But how did that process go last year?
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You know, Kern kind of chose Baylor.
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I tell people it was almost like a prearranged marriage because
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it was COVID. So he never got to visit
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anybody. He never got to go on campuses.
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He everything was FaceTime, Zoom calls, virtual visits.
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Even when he committed to Baylor, I had to pay for us to
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go to the game and we had to go in with everybody else.
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Like we never even met the coaches.
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So the first time he met Aranda in person was the day we dropped
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him off. And that's great.
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You know, two days after he signed, Fedora was gone.
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So it was, you know, if it had, if it worked, the best thing
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that happened for him was, you know, that Thursday night he got
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in that game against West Virginia and nobody else was
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really playing. So that was the best thing that
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happened. You know that pretty much that
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night I think I kind of knew. Well, we kind of already knew.
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We were just hoping he can get on the field and get filmed, you
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know, because the one thing that was scary about the portal, you
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go in and you hear these horror stories and you're like, he
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hadn't got any films. So I don't want to go in and not
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have an exit plan. So, you know, once that
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happened, I felt better about it.
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It's still scary. You know that Monday morning
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when you officially in and you know, I remember talking to him
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about 11:00 and he was like and I thought I'd have more, you
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know, calls coming. But then he had lunch with
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Tebow. About an hour later, I talked to
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him and. His whole voice.
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Changed and I was like. Thank you.
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You know at the time that I had two.
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Boys in the portal, so it. Was it was extra nervous, you
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know? It was, you know, I was
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actually. I thought that.
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Karen was going to meet PJ Flett for Jeremiah.
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So it was. I was all over the place.
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So, but yeah, so it was a scary feeling.
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But you know, Virginia Tech's the only visit he ever took, you
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know? Good.
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That would be glad we fucking glad.
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It was gig. They made a big impression.
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You know, Tebow being down there, the first day, that was
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huge for Kern because he didn't want to post anything.
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He didn't want offers because other people were offering.
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He wanted it to be genuine and organic.
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And you know, we went there. It was big for Coach Pry and
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them to to have us there first, you know, because we knew some
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of the other ones. Kern was the elite 11 with one
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of the other quarterbacks that they were bringing from Penn
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State. And, you know, so it was huge
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for us and it went a long way for Kern, for them to bring him
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in first. And you know when he, they put
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#1 on him and he went to Lane Stadium for the photo shoot and
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they didn't realize he had been number one since Lily, and he
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didn't. Really be number.
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One. So when they did it, I was.
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Like, man, that brings back memory.
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I've got chills. And he was like, they give me
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#1, it's done. Yeah, I'm going to tell you a
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little bit from from our perspective and a fan
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perspective of what we was looking at while y'all was going
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through that. So just had went through a
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season three wins, didn't get to play the last game against UVA
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because of a tragedy of still RP to the young men there.
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So we were kind of, you know, we did end the season on a high
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note, which was great as far as the win versus Liberty.
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But again, you only won three games, lost a lot of close
19:25
games. This podcast, as well as a lot
19:29
of fans included, knew we needed a playmaker at quarterback.
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Like we knew it. You know, no disrespect to any
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player or coaches that are on the staff or players that were
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on the team. I know those young men put their
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hearts on the line, but we knew we needed a playmaker.
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I'm going to go ahead and say I told them we need a black
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quarterback. I'm just saying that's what I
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said. But when I say that
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realistically we needed a dual threat quarterback.
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So when we see a offer go out to your son, to Kyron, we
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immediately start digging for film.
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You know, high school stuff. We start digging for, you know,
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him playing against West Virginia.
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We start looking at message boards.
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We start. We started looking at what the
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fans at Baylor had to say when he was leaving because.
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When you get involved in, in, in, in like we are in, in
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football, like you just search, you ain't got nothing to do but
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search for stuff. So like, the Baylor fans were
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distraught. It was like, oh God, why is he
20:30
leaving? You know, he was going to be the
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future, blah, blah, blah. So us as fans, this BCP podcast,
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we were thinking like, oh, we know we got something, but you
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got so many fans that are just kind of die hard, hokey fans
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that just going to say whatever's in front of me,
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that's what I want to take. Y'all can't talk bad about
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anybody here. Y'all can't say that we need
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another quarterback. We got a quarterback and I'm
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like, if they put this kid on the field, I'm telling y'all,
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y'all are going to see that he's different.
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He got something different. I'm.
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I've seen it and he's got something.
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How do you know? Because I watch a lot of fucking
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football. That's how I know.
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And I've seen the film on the kid.
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He's got something different. He comes from a great family
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that knows football. He comes from an athletic family
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that's got college athletes all over his family.
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It's exactly what you want in your quarterback.
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So when we seen him get in the Porter and we seen him y'all
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kind of sneak up and take that visit to Blacksburg, when Jeremy
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probably heard the music playing and they started telling us
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about that was. Hilarious.
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Why? I realized what Hokey Nation was
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about. That was why.
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Oh yeah, like I didn't even know currently the picture.
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He took a picture of his feet at the airport and we started, I'm
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looking on message boards and they're going, hey, we know that
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there's a 655 flight going up, man.
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Like I said. I don't know what Y'all was
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dealing with, but on our end it was going nuts, like people
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watching Evan Watkins the whole time.
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People are tracking, people are tracking lights on the kids
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page. They knew your wife New you.
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We do. People follow.
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We do. We follow.
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We follow. Listen, hulking nation is is
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unbeaten. We we a little rabbit.
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We a little rabbit. Dude, I got so many.
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I got so many. Messages over his clips.
22:26
When the game in West Virginia, we were just breaking it down.
22:29
We're just like, what was he looking at here?
22:32
Every day arguing. Mission making.
22:34
We were doing this constantly. Me.
22:37
Absolutely. So we we we got a lot of chats.
22:39
We don't we're on Twitter a lot. I I was beating the drum of QB
22:44
one the second I saw the West Virginia tape.
22:47
The second I saw the West Virginia tape, I was beating
22:50
that drum because because me and Brian talked about this, he's
22:53
like he went in cold that game in Morgantown, which for all of
22:57
us down here, Jeremy, I think, did you go there as an undergrad
23:02
to a game to Morgantown? Yes, I've I've went to
23:05
Morgantown. A few times.
23:07
For a few for a few shows. I've never actually went to a
23:12
game though, But Morgantown's Wild, It's Wild and.
23:17
Especially when. You half of the clubs you own is
23:20
Vt gear. It's wild.
23:25
West Virginia Looks like somebody stepped straight out of
23:28
the hills Have eyes. I don't never have to fucking go
23:31
to West Virginia. It's.
23:34
Like hot tubs in it. It's insane.
23:37
It is dirty. It is a dirty town and not New
23:41
Orleans dirty. That's a fun dirty.
23:43
It is a. Dirty town in a bad way.
23:46
But, but Brian and Tally were like watching that, watching
23:50
that game. And it was like, he's cold
23:52
making these throws, he's cold. It was.
23:57
It's the poise to me. It was the poise to me.
24:00
It was the poise. He would.
24:02
He never looked like the moment was too big.
24:05
Playing from behind, playing on the road, playing in that
24:08
environment. It never was too big for him.
24:10
And that was big for somebody coming in cold like that.
24:12
For me, you know, when you talk about like mechanics and when
24:16
you talk about like everything else, like you, those are things
24:20
that you can grow into Once you're once you're a starter,
24:23
once you're a player. But you can't.
24:26
It's really hard to coach the poise in those types of moments
24:30
and when you have that, that's something that you really it's
24:33
it's it's it's it's hard to replicate and when you have that
24:36
in a quarterback, that's really important.
24:39
Yeah, he he's always been, you know, never too high, never too
24:43
low. You know about this.
24:46
I mean we were in a playoff game his junior year year we wanted
24:48
and you know, he throws 2 picks in the first half and I think
24:53
everybody thought I was fixing to go in there and you know, be
24:57
the be the big bad wolf. Didn't I just, I just took him
25:00
to the bathroom and said, hey, you built for this moment right
25:02
here, hey, take care of the ball and go win the game.
25:05
And he just looked at me and was like, I got you and it was like
25:08
second-half he put on his cake and I just couldn't believe it.
25:11
I mean, but he's always just kind of been almost too much.
25:15
Like, I remember being him being young and we had to tell him
25:18
like, hey, you scored a touchdown, you got to celebrate
25:21
with your teammates, like you just run off the field.
25:24
Like that's what it's supposed to be in business and union.
25:26
I will say though, even kill like that is so important on
25:29
offense, like defense you you want somebody with a lot of gas
25:33
offense having that even kill demeanor.
25:35
Is important like tie rods demeanor.
25:38
That is a good way to put it. Super, even kill.
25:41
But look, we don't want to. We got somebody else on here, so
25:44
we want to we want to throw some stuff at you as well.
25:46
Chris, a little bit different from you because you got a high
25:50
school student that was able to take some visits, a lot of
25:54
visits, had a lot of people knocking at your door all year.
25:59
You are there in Virginia, so you kind of know what the
26:02
Virginia landscape looks like as far as football, high school
26:06
kids as well as the college stuff.
26:09
And you said some earlier. You say it.
26:11
You know drones was a little bit of the reason why y'all looked
26:16
at Virginia Tech. Ask you a little bit about
26:18
y'all's journey of how y'all committed.
26:21
You know what I'm saying? And and and how you felt about
26:24
Virginia Tech being the the, the pick.
26:28
Oh well. Listen, I I consider been
26:30
listening big to Kevin all night about that situation because
26:34
Kyron was a a huge part of it but for for us.
26:38
But our situation was one thing that I always took when we took
26:43
visits, different places. I was out, like taking notes
26:46
about everything. And the one thing that I took
26:48
was from a Virginia Tech favorite, Patton Narduzzi, do
26:54
your homework. And I and I, and I'm going to be
26:58
honest with you, Kevin, you can kind of attest to this.
27:01
I could not understand how any person does this by themselves.
27:04
I don't care if you're a single father, single mother.
27:07
I don't know how you do this because I'll be totally honest
27:10
with you, without my wife, we probably have been somewhere
27:12
totally different because she had the ability to vet people.
27:16
And I'm just a big football nut, so I'm going into places, right?
27:20
I'm looking at the helmets, the gloves, the kid.
27:23
The kid is like, hey, I just want to be here for the
27:25
pictures. And I'm like, I but she really
27:28
vetted people and watch them. So Narjoozi told me, you know,
27:33
hey, do my homework. And so I did my homework.
27:35
So when we came up to Virginia Tech in June of 22 I I was just
27:41
I'm be honest with you, I had. I didn't want anything to do
27:43
with Virginia Tech. Quick background story.
27:46
Sean Mitchell is the was the all time leading passer for
27:50
touchdown completions and yards in the state of Virginia.
27:53
That's my nephew and Beamer had gave him a scholarship offer.
27:59
He was going to Virginia Tech and I was hyped about it.
28:02
Fuentes came in, pulled his offer.
28:04
Now he ended up going to William and Mary, went play ball one of
28:07
Connecticut, got, got his masters and he's doing great.
28:10
But I hated the fact that he was 511.
28:14
One is too short and he didn't get, he didn't get the offer, so
28:18
I wasn't really feeling Virginia Tech.
28:19
So but when we went up there, I wasn't man.
28:22
I was like man, bump this. I'm just going over here just to
28:24
go up, if it makes you feel. Better We weren't really feeling
28:26
Fuente either. We're.
28:30
In agreement with that. But I think the one thing that
28:33
we always did, like when you talk about West Virginia, there
28:36
were visits that we took that we got out the car, we were praying
28:39
and say, hey man, we just up here just to make sure that they
28:42
see us get the pictures and people know who we are and
28:46
that's what we did. But from the moment we stepped
28:49
on campus at Virginia Tech, man, it was, it was just, it was
28:56
crazy because I was like I told Keelan this.
28:59
I said, man, listen, you can go anywhere and play in the
29:01
country, but if you come up here and play well, you'll be a
29:05
legend. And I told him that the very
29:07
first time I can. I said you will be an absolute
29:09
legend. Here they are dying for kids
29:11
like you and you'll go do it. But I think our process was, you
29:16
know, we went a lot of places. We saw a lot of.
29:19
Different facilities. We would grade everything and we
29:22
would come back and look at it. I mean, we were committed to
29:25
Ohio State at one time. We was committed to West
29:28
Virginia one time. We was committed.
29:31
I mean, like to ourselves, we were going to be like, yeah, I'm
29:34
going here, yo, I'm going here, yo, I'm going here.
29:37
And I I can tell the story, you know now.
29:41
There was never a point where I felt pressure from this staff
29:45
for him to come. Like the when we were going
29:48
three and eight, I was sitting and watching the game and I
29:51
wanted to see pride crack. That's what I wanted to see.
29:54
I wanted to see how he would act if there was a tight game.
29:58
They blew it and who he was going to throw underneath the
30:01
bus. And if y'all follow me on
30:02
Twitter, I'd say that all the time.
30:03
And he never cracked. He never blew up on his team.
30:08
He would. And everybody said, oh, he's a
30:10
salesman. He says I got to be better.
30:13
I'm learning. I'm understanding it.
30:14
So through that whole year, I was like something different
30:18
with this, with that dude right there.
30:20
So when we went to other places, went to Penn State, they made us
30:23
feel like we should be honored that Penn State wanted us.
30:26
And we didn't feel that. We didn't feel that.
30:30
I ended up meeting Chance Wiggins up there, though.
30:32
That was a good thing I got. I got a chance to meet him, meet
30:35
his mom and things of that nature.
30:38
When we went to Alabama, we were going to take Alabama's visit.
30:42
I don't care what nobody said. We were taking that visit.
30:44
Now. We would never ever going to
30:46
Alabama, but we were taking that visit because we wanted to see
30:49
how the sausage was made and I wanted the front of them.
30:52
Yeah, I wanted the son of my friends to say I had a picture
30:54
with Nick Saban. I'm going to be totally.
30:57
Honest. Dude, I was talking.
31:00
I was talking. Cold trash to my homies.
31:02
I was like, yo, I got a picture with Tricky Nick.
31:05
I'm the man it was. Funny to me.
31:09
We, we were going to go to Florida State.
31:12
Just couldn't work the details of that.
31:13
Tennessee was super duper arrogant.
31:16
They were like, hey, well, you know, if you don't come out
31:18
here, tell us 10 hours away, you know we won't commit the offer.
31:23
And Sheila was like, I'll drive to Ohio, I'll go to Ohio State,
31:28
But Tennessee ain't Ohio State. So me and him, our bond grew
31:32
closer going to Ohio State because we went up one night at
31:34
night through the mountains. We had to take the Turnpike.
31:37
I've never been so happy to see small towns in my life going
31:40
through the mountains of of Virginia, getting up to Ohio
31:44
State. He would you know, he was he
31:46
loved Ohio State. But by doing our homework, we're
31:49
able to you know break that down so we would turn around.
31:53
It was in. We came back up in March and I
31:57
think we took one summer visit and I met Kyron.
32:00
So I. Meet Kyron.
32:01
Right. And he's just standing in the
32:04
weight room on the wall with Ollie Jennings and he's just
32:07
standing there like nothing's going on.
32:10
He's just so cool, so laid back. And I said it's something about
32:15
that kid right there. There's just something different
32:18
about him. And Key was like, what you mean?
32:20
I said. Because he's not over the top.
32:23
His demeeter is low. He had his work bag.
32:25
He had already Him and Ali had already worked out.
32:28
And I said I like that kid. I like that kid a lot, he said.
32:32
And you know, Keelan's a football player and Kevin, you
32:34
know how that is. Football players just look at
32:36
football players like, OK, he's a football player.
32:38
Got to your player. I don't know who he is, but me,
32:41
I did all the things Y'all did. I wouldn't watch this Elite 11
32:44
tape. I watched this West Virginia
32:46
tape. I was like, yo, that dude right
32:48
there might be the truth. And you know, everybody's
32:51
looking for that next guy, you know.
32:54
And because of the history of Virginia Tech and things of that
32:57
nature, So I was like, yeah, he kind of reminded me of coming
33:00
in. Coming to Castle was really,
33:01
really good. So but his demeanor is what got
33:03
me. And man, the process was easy,
33:06
man. When we got, we did our four, we
33:08
had four official visits. I I was always honest with
33:12
everybody. I told them ahead of time if I
33:16
was coming, if I was coming. Our first visit was Pittsburgh.
33:19
I called him. I said we ain't going to Pitt.
33:22
Narduzzi was really mean to people that I saw and I and I
33:26
told them early, hey, we're not, we put you on the list, but
33:29
we're not coming. Ohio State, we had kind of
33:32
looked at the numbers. You know, three of the top #1
33:35
wide receivers in the country had gone up there.
33:38
They had the number four. They had a lot of guys.
33:41
And I I never shield away from competition.
33:44
But I understood this one part. He's a Virginia player.
33:48
If he goes to Ohio, even though he was from even though he was
33:52
born in Ohio and he lived in Ohio, he was an Ohio Prada.
33:57
So they're just going to say, hey, this is the number one
33:59
recruit, #1 wide receiver out of Virginia, that's great.
34:03
They got a guy up there right now, Noah Rogers, he's the
34:05
number one guy out of the 23 class or 22/20/22 or 23 class
34:11
from North Carolina. He went to Ohio State and he
34:13
can't get on the field. So I told Key, I said, listen,
34:16
the goal is if you want to go to the league, you got to be able
34:19
to get on the field A. Lot of kids that come out of
34:22
Virginia right now. Yeah, absolutely.
34:25
And. They get it.
34:26
Oh yeah, that was. Well that was that.
34:28
That's, that's another crazy story because that was the first
34:31
offer he got was from UNC. And we were kind of like, yeah,
34:34
UNC, UNC. And then we got there and wide
34:36
receiver coach never called me. I kind of said OK we're we're
34:39
not going to deal with them. But we we're from there.
34:42
Because Kevin, I don't know if you caught this.
34:44
If they don't call and talk to me, I don't really feel that
34:47
they're interested in me. If the recruiting assistant or
34:50
somebody like that, they call, OK.
34:53
But if I don't talk to the OC or the head coach or the wide
34:56
receiver coach, they're not really that interested in us.
34:59
So why do you say that? Because.
35:01
When Karen left Baylor, they they wanted to have a meeting
35:05
with us. So I'm thinking we're going to
35:06
have a meeting with all of us and.
35:10
It. Turned out it.
35:10
Was I never. I never once talked to the OC
35:13
and never talked to the head coach and.
35:15
It. Was just the quarterback coach
35:17
calling me and I'm like, I've been talking to you.
35:20
I'm I'm done with you. We've already moved on from this
35:23
you. Know on the.
35:27
Field, you know, on the OC didn't reach out.
35:29
So I was like, I'm done, you know, I talked to.
35:31
Her. Random.
35:32
So I was like, I'm good and I want to, I want to say something
35:36
right quick. Why?
35:37
Why? Something that Chris said
35:38
earlier that I talk about in some spaces, and I know these
35:42
two guys can talk about as well. I I wasn't recruited on the
35:47
level that their kids have been recruited.
35:49
But when you go through recruiting stuff, like I came
35:51
from a single mom home, you know, and my mom didn't know a
35:54
lot of stuff. She didn't, she didn't know
35:56
about visits, She didn't know who to talk to.
35:59
So it was like, OK, this coach is going to be the one that's
36:02
going to help you. Like if you don't have the
36:05
people that's showing you the right stuff in in schools know
36:09
that. They know when they have
36:10
somebody that's vulnerable. Like when you have a a father
36:13
that's a football fan or a father that's a football coach,
36:17
You know what I'm saying? These, these sometimes the
36:19
schools get intimidated to recruit the kids because they
36:23
don't want to. They just want that kid.
36:25
But we can mow with him and do what he want.
36:27
We don't care about his family, his mom and things like that.
36:30
We don't want that input. We just want to take them and do
36:33
what we want with them. So when you talk about having
36:36
that family around, when I talked about how our coaches
36:39
recruit, like recruiting is a it's a long game, man.
36:43
You got to know who cut the kids hair.
36:45
You got to know the father, You got to know the uncle.
36:47
You got to know where they get the sandwiches from in their
36:50
family. Because you don't know who is
36:51
going to have the influence on that kid or who is going to be
36:54
the one that's going to talk to that kid that's going to make
36:56
that kid open his eyes to the school.
36:58
So for you, that's what he did. Yeah.
37:03
Yeah. He was like.
37:04
I got to know like. If something's going on and like
37:08
we can't keep a hold of him, like and like he's getting to
37:12
college and doing whatever, I need to know.
37:14
Like, he's got a good relationship with his mom.
37:17
Like, I need to know, hey, does this kid, like, does he have a
37:24
lot of connections to like, his family, his friends, everything
37:27
else? And that's a lot of things that
37:29
they looked at. And family relationships are
37:31
huge in these situations. And I think that's overlooked a
37:35
lot of times. Definitely, Chris, you were.
37:37
Talking about vetting. They didn't even realize it
37:41
until I told them. After Karen got there, I talked
37:43
to him and hook experience. Because I wanted to know the
37:46
good. End of that.
37:47
So I wanted to know if and they had nothing bad to say and I'm
37:53
like this kid just transferred from there and they didn't have
37:55
anything negative to say. Well, they should went to
38:00
Virginia Tech. And got in the.
38:02
Situation had to leave. He's at Illinois.
38:04
I talked. To his parents.
38:06
That had nothing to say bad. So it was like, you know, even
38:11
the people that had to leave didn't have.
38:13
Anything. Negative to say so everything
38:15
that I so that's what you know, people don't realize.
38:18
Like I reached out to a little bit of everybody because, again,
38:22
just like the Baylor situation, Karen wanted to go to Auburn.
38:26
They don't go to Auburn. And the day he was ready to
38:29
commit, I was like, Karen, they're hot and cold on.
38:35
Miles on every. Other year, yes and I, yeah.
38:38
And there you go. We know Chad's not going to be
38:41
there because. If he was going to be there,
38:42
then Chandler wouldn't went to Oklahoma, right?
38:45
He's not going to be there. So are you really ready to go to
38:47
Auburn? You've never been, you've never
38:49
played a game since you were three where nobody was there.
38:53
And I have to be real with you as a dad.
38:55
Because if I don't. Tell you I.
38:56
Don't want you to walk out the locker room the first time and
38:58
we're not there. Nobody's there.
39:00
And then you feel some kind of way and you're that far away
39:03
and. It's a Kim.
39:04
That's why he went to Baylor, because it was in state and it
39:07
was he was 17 years old, leaving in January and.
39:12
He just wasn't ready. But at this time, when he got in
39:15
the portal, now he's 19, he's been in college two years and it
39:18
was a business decision. He was just trying to get on the
39:20
field. He wanted a true competition,
39:22
not a sales pitch, just a true competition.
39:24
Are you going to really let me compete for the job that's also
39:27
talking about that? Go ahead, Curtis.
39:29
Awesome to hear. What I want to do Kevin, Chris,
39:32
y'all met him a lawyer earlier. We're going to bring some other
39:34
folks on because I know they have some questions and want to
39:36
talk to you all about some stuff and we got other stuff we're
39:38
going to talk about this season. So Brian, let's bring them on.
39:43
Let's start with our coaching buddy from down at North
39:45
Wilkesboro High School, long time friend of BCP podcast coach
39:49
Robbie Compton. Hi, everybody.
39:51
There he is. There he is.
39:53
We also have one. Of the Co.
39:55
Host. Of two deep.
39:58
PB. Coming back again?
40:01
What's? Up, fellas.
40:02
How you doing? Oh man.
40:03
What's going on, man? You.
40:05
Mentioned a little. Bit earlier.
40:07
We got Dan from the Terrells, from the Terra Dome, my dude.
40:11
My buddy, my hey, what's up? What's good?
40:13
Baby, how we living? What's all going on?
40:16
We're all living, I. Wanted to bring y'all on 'cause
40:18
I know mid-day I got, I got a coach in my left corner here, so
40:24
Kevin, Coach Robbie, coach Robbie, Kevin.
40:26
I know y'all go y'all probably going.
40:28
Robbie's been there for some. Of his players, Pete and Dan
40:31
have their pods, awesome pods and I know they've got
40:34
questions. But let me ask this from both of
40:36
y'all and and kind of in general because we some of y'all got in
40:40
to meet some of these coaches. Robbie, Dan, Jeremy have.
40:44
Let's talk about Tyler Bowman because Kevin, that is your
40:49
son's OC. Chris, that's going to be your
40:51
son's OC in this upcoming season.
40:53
And one of the big stories was, and you said it day one when
40:58
Kyron went into the portal, he was there and every everybody
41:01
knows about that. All, all of us fans on those
41:04
boards. We were like, wait a SEC.
41:06
Bowen's in a plane going down to Waco today.
41:09
Shit, he wants that kid. Bad.
41:13
Bad. What?
41:13
Let's talk. About Tyler Bowen and the
41:16
relationship, because obviously he's got to have a relationship
41:18
with both of y'all and I know Robbie got to meet him back at a
41:22
coach clinic last year. Dan, you've met him before.
41:24
What's Tyler? Come.
41:25
Off as to y'all meeting him, not only the football player but the
41:30
human being. And I'll let you go ahead and
41:32
start Kevin, just really. Genuine.
41:35
You know, open, open relationship.
41:38
You know, I it's funny, 'cause it was two kids in the portal
41:42
and I know me and Tally were going back and forth.
41:45
Kids were going in the portal. If I had a relationship with
41:47
them, I was shooting it too. Boeing.
41:50
It was like, hey, if y'all want in on these guys or y'all, if I
41:53
can help in any kind of way, let me know.
41:55
And you know, it was that openness that I haven't had with
41:58
other coaches. And like I said, I got, I got
42:00
two kids that are in two different schools in their
42:03
second school apiece and I didn't have that relationship
42:06
with those guys. But I feel comfortable and it's
42:09
no threat. I'm never going to be, you know,
42:12
I'm a coach, so I always tell them the last thing I want is
42:16
I'm never going to be that parent to hover over and do all
42:18
of that. Your decisions are your
42:20
decisions. Everything's going to work
42:22
yourself out like it should. You know in the end.
42:25
As long as you keep doing your work, everything else will work
42:28
yourself out. But Boeing?
42:29
The whole off, that whole staff. I'll tell you, Coach Pry.
42:33
Everybody. 'S open book and when I say make
42:36
you feel at home and like family, like you don't have,
42:39
don't hesitate to call them and they actually mean it.
42:41
It's not just something they say like.
42:43
And that's across the board that's defense.
42:45
You know, my friend brother is Marv.
42:47
So I get there and talk to him. I mean, I'm around those guys
42:52
all the time, you know, because I'm at every game.
42:54
So in being able to see and talk and and I was so happy for them
42:59
this season, you know, seeing how level they were, you could
43:02
see them getting better and wasn't showing up on wins early.
43:05
But you can see it happening. It's just it's got to just take
43:08
its course. And then when that pit game
43:10
happened, you can kind of see it turn.
43:11
They just needed some, they needed some confirmation of what
43:15
they were doing with work and it kind of worked and you know you
43:19
have some slip UPS but that happens.
43:21
But now you see the momentum with everybody coming back.
43:24
We got a great recruiting class coming in and I think everybody
43:28
is turning for the better and everybody's kind of seeing it.
43:30
I mean even talking to, you know, you talk to parents in
43:32
our, in our, you know, we have our own parking lot and all that
43:35
stuff and you know you go out there, this is the most.
43:38
Optimistic the fan base has been since 2012.
43:43
After the sugar. Bowl I mean, we could, we can
43:45
say the ACC Championship game in 2016, but honestly, whenever we
43:50
were there and we lost, I was just kind of like we were
43:54
probably going to lose. It feels like we.
43:59
Are legitimately building a program and it's just like we
44:03
are like striking out and maybe doing it feels like it was back
44:08
in the day whenever I first came here in O 4 what we were.
44:12
That's what it's feeling like right now.
44:14
It's the trajectory. Everything feels like we're
44:17
heading on the upper path right now and I think that's.
44:19
Something. That we haven't really
44:21
experienced in a while and I mean let me let me throw this at
44:24
you Chris because I know with with the 757 connection for the
44:29
longest time we have had struggles recruiting that
44:33
especially after in the 2000s where that was our bread and
44:36
butter. I did for a for a decade it was.
44:40
Dry. It was dry.
44:43
Yeah, so. I mean, talk about that a little
44:45
bit. I mean, it was.
44:47
You, you said it best. I mean, you know, like, I'm not
44:50
originally from here. I mean, I'm from Charlotte.
44:52
I'm from North Carolina. So the Navy brought me here.
44:55
But from 1999 to 2006, man, listen, man, this was every time
45:01
you turned around, it was Virginia.
45:02
Take something, Virginia, take this, that and the third.
45:05
So like I said on Twitter, a lot of time it's like a time
45:10
machine, the 23 class and those guys brought us back to the
45:14
beginning or the heyday or we aren't quite there yet, but
45:18
we're just so excited about Virginia Tech football.
45:21
But going back to what you were saying man with with Tebow, I
45:26
mean this this staff is a staff of men and and Kevin I think you
45:31
can follow me on this. You know you feel good when you
45:34
talk to them that you going to get a straight answer from them.
45:36
You're not going to get no song and dance.
45:38
You're not going to get no him in and hard.
45:40
They're going to shoot it to you straight.
45:42
And so that's what I love about Tebow and and I love the
45:47
progression that he's taking because you got to remember he
45:50
loses his quarterback coach in the in the in, you know in the
45:53
middle of the summer and he's saying hey, I'm going to be the
45:56
quarterback coach and the OC. So now I got two different guys
46:00
quarterbacking. I got a pocket passer and I got
46:03
a dual threat guy. And for him to turn around in
46:06
midstream, to turn around and said, OK, this pocket passer
46:10
thing ain't working. Let me work to to my other
46:13
quarterback's strengths and to flip his offense to be able to
46:16
do that. Because the one thing Tebow will
46:18
say to you more than anything else, Kevin, he says that I'm
46:21
going to get you to rock. That was every time he texts me.
46:24
It's like, let me get you to rock.
46:26
So I just called. Hey, you going to get me to
46:28
rock? And he's going to get the ball
46:30
into his Playmakers hands, but he needed a guy to be able to do
46:33
that. So you know when I was going on
46:35
Twitter and seeing folks, I was like, hey, listen, if Grant
46:38
Wells works out well this year because he's got better weapons
46:42
because dude, he had one guy who turned around the year after
46:46
quit football. He had another wide receiver man
46:48
who was a a hard working guy And a big part of why we liked it
46:52
there, because when we first time we met Daquan Lofton, he
46:55
was in there working. He was in there working out
46:57
trying to get better, trying to do his thing.
46:58
But he was limited, you know, and we all saw that, you know,
47:01
I'm not not no knock against him.
47:02
He was limited. So you give Grant Wells premier
47:07
pieces. You know Ollie Jennings, Jana
47:10
Lane, who killed Miami, who's a, who's a blazer, You get a Avatar
47:14
and Taquan Felton, you know what I'm saying?
47:17
I mean a flat out monster. You can't help but get better.
47:21
I play basketball, so I knew I was better if I had guys who
47:24
could shoot on the wing. So I understood that.
47:27
So you get those pieces of place.
47:28
If he works, it works out. But.
47:31
If something happens. That the other guy gets in.
47:34
It was going to work out anyway, man.
47:36
People excoriated me on Twitter like, oh man, you don't know
47:39
nothing. You don't know this.
47:40
I'm like, I'm just trying to be positive about either direction.
47:44
But for Tebow to turn around and take his offense second game of
47:47
the season, flip it, and within two games give you the monster
47:52
that's going to score at minimum 30 points if it's in their
47:55
favor. I I you can't.
47:57
You can't do nothing but get that guy.
47:59
Your hats off to that guy. I know, I know.
48:01
I was actually on the programs and I was full on, just like for
48:05
a while I was really upset with the way things were going and
48:08
then everything turned around. I mean, it is full on at this
48:13
point. It is full on Trust I.
48:16
Mean. Like you got I get a.
48:17
Lot of. Go ahead, Go ahead, Chris.
48:21
I was going to say I get a. Lot of I get a lot of
48:23
interaction on Twitter. I think the most interaction
48:26
that I've ever got on Twitter on any post that I've post was I
48:30
posted a picture of Kyron and said this should have been my QB
48:36
one and they they ate me up. It was.
48:43
It may have had like 500 likes, but it was so many people in
48:47
there. I was getting so many messages
48:49
and I kept telling people I was like, I watched too much
48:52
football to argue with y'all this kid.
48:55
That's. The piece though, That's the
48:58
piece, if you weren't just saying, Nah, let me, let me go
49:01
real quick. Let me go real quick.
49:03
Let me go real quick. This podcast.
49:06
After the spring. Game said it Howard Jones should
49:10
be cute. We said it.
49:11
It's Robert. Rules if you ain't never been in
49:13
a fraternity meeting, Kevin, you know what I'm talking about.
49:15
Listen, man, I. Mean we got, we got to be, we
49:18
said listen, we got to be real, we got to be real talking.
49:22
People were saying, did you see him in the spring game?
49:26
You know, did you see Kyle? I said he and we said fuck yeah.
49:28
We did. That's why we're saying this,
49:31
he. Got a he got a non contact
49:32
jersey on, I said. There's not. 1.
49:35
Player on that defense that's going to tackle him.
49:37
I said, did you say he looked like Cam Newton?
49:40
Like he he's just his physical stature.
49:43
If you watch a football player, I said he is not going down with
49:46
with somebody grabbing him, like grabbing his jersey.
49:50
It's very it's not very often that that kid is going to go
49:53
down. So that's the conversations that
49:55
we was having and when he got in, oh, go ahead.
50:00
I was just saying like when people were doing all of that
50:03
and I was listening to, you know, I listen to everything
50:06
and. And.
50:07
My boy Chris Coleman was was eating him up, you know, and the
50:14
spring game and I was just going to you can't simulate what he
50:19
does in a practice or spring game because you're going to
50:23
have a quick whistle. What you think is a tackle in a
50:25
tackle, what you think is a sack and a sack.
50:28
What he, unless you know him and you've watched him play, you
50:31
don't know. I remember Karen calling me and
50:34
saying he and Marv got into it because they called him short on
50:38
1/3 down and he said he looked at Marvin was like, you know,
50:40
your guy's not tackling. I love that but.
50:46
That's and. I was like, they can't mimic
50:48
that. So when you know, mimic it.
50:51
When? If you go.
50:52
Name it If you I knew he's a gamer.
50:54
He's a gamer. It's a lot like whenever Hindon
50:57
came in and Hindon just came into the games and he was
51:01
dominating. That's what it reminds me of,
51:05
but I got. I got to bring, I got to bring
51:07
Pete in right here because I want Pete to talk just a little
51:10
bit because he's been super on with so much stuff that he said
51:15
this year, even though he put a ugly picture out drinking beer
51:19
out of a mannequin's ass or something like that.
51:23
He's been. He's been super on with.
51:26
So much stuff to be said. With the comparison of the team
51:30
and he said something about Kyron, maybe the last time he
51:34
was on, when he said it's not so much that the team just changed
51:40
when Karen got in. But they believed in him.
51:43
The team believed that he could lead him to a win like Pete.
51:46
I'm going to let you talk a little bit about what you said
51:48
and what you said this year. Yeah, well.
51:52
What I said on the podcast a couple weeks ago, and we talked
51:54
about that, is just that when players believe they can win,
51:57
they will just play better. And I think there was part of
52:01
the team, and we saw it in the Purdue game.
52:03
We saw it a little bit in the ODU game that there was a little
52:07
bit of a lack of juice and and we saw it Once the pit game
52:11
started and the offense looked a little bit different, it's like,
52:14
oh, OK, these guys actually believe they have a chance to
52:16
win. And I think Kyron was a huge
52:19
part of that. And I actually wanted to one,
52:24
I'm glad Fedora never got a hold of your son there, Kevin,
52:26
because we're not. I'm not a huge fan of Larry
52:29
Fedora, but that's. But that's a different topic.
52:31
And I'm glad he's at Virginia Tech.
52:33
But the pit game, I think one of you guys said it, it was
52:36
validation. You trusted the process
52:38
throughout. But leading it up into the
52:41
season and this is something I think the guys wanted to do, was
52:43
a state of the program in a retrospective.
52:46
Kyron didn't win the starting job, and that was because you
52:50
can't simulate his strengths in practice, just as you said.
52:54
And so even if he is a gamer, he's a gamer.
52:57
That's fine. He is a gamer.
52:58
But the other fact of the matter is he's also just he was also
53:01
just better. He was better.
53:03
He wasn't able to exhibit it in practice and a lot of people
53:06
said that was because he didn't have the experience.
53:08
He could throw the ball as well as as Grant Wells.
53:11
We had seen Grant Wells plays. Because you don't light up your
53:14
teammates in practice. Yeah, you don't.
53:17
You don't. Do you don't?
53:17
Do what Kyron did to that Purdue linebacker as he was running
53:21
towards the boundary and literally said Mr. Drones, if
53:25
you were there, that if I'm going out out of bounds, I'm
53:27
going through this guy, I'm going through.
53:30
And. And I remember Tally sitting
53:32
next to me at that game and he said holy shit, like he just
53:36
like he looked at that kid and said fuck you, I'm going to go
53:39
through you and I'm going to get out of bounds to stop the clock.
53:42
Now I'm going to, I'm going to pick some real quick Robbie.
53:45
Robbie got to see Kyron at spring and we talked to Robbie
53:50
and Robbie I I can't remember what you said back then but it
53:52
was just like he's a hoss and the ball said.
53:56
Coming out of his hand. Being there like like.
53:58
I said. I've I've.
53:59
I've. Been involved.
54:01
In Virginia. Tech football in some way for
54:05
all three coaching staff that we all know.
54:07
I've been. Coaching high school.
54:08
Ball since 2:00. 1005 and I've had kids recruited by Beamer in
54:12
this crowd, by Puente, in this crowd and and now with Coach
54:17
Pratt and I mean. Karen seemed to fit a lot more
54:24
of. What they were used to doing and
54:26
when I watched them in practice, you could just see their
54:30
composure, the way the ball came out of his hand.
54:33
The way he was getting to. Receivers.
54:34
It was different than what Wells was doing.
54:37
And and I told. I told Brian and Curtis right
54:39
afterwards, I was like it's just a matter of time.
54:43
You know, they're they're giving, they're giving Wells the
54:46
benefit of the doubt and and he was a great kid.
54:49
You could tell there that Wells was a leader, like he talked to
54:52
the guys in a way that they listen.
54:55
But you could just see the pure athletic ability and the things
54:59
that that that that Kyron. Was going.
55:02
To bring in and. It was just a matter.
55:05
Of time until until Coach Bowens could get everything worked out
55:09
and knew. That.
55:10
That was going to kick in to what they needed and.
55:16
Well, can I ask? Kevin, a tough question based
55:18
off what you're saying, Robert, is just that you saw the bad
55:22
offense last year with Grant Wells.
55:24
It was one of the worst P5 offenses in the modern era.
55:27
It really was. If you go through the numbers,
55:30
the SP plus whatever, it was terrible.
55:32
You come to this season, the first few weeks of the year, we
55:35
have a quarterback. He gets hurt, we put in Kyron,
55:37
whatever. First four games.
55:39
Again, it looks bad. It can't move the ball.
55:42
There's no consistency. All the numbers in advanced way
55:45
look terrible. Did you ever waver, either as a
55:49
parent or did you ever see Kyron Waver in the process with Coach
55:53
Tebow? No the.
55:56
You know, even in the Rutgers game I I talked to, I can't
55:58
remember where I was, who I was talking to.
56:00
But even in the Rutgers game, the first half looked like his
56:04
first half starting. You know, let's be honest, he
56:07
hadn't played in two years, 2 1/2 since his senior year.
56:11
So it looked like that. But then he started getting
56:14
comfortable in the second-half and you could tell when he
56:17
started the Marshall game, I went, I was actually, I went to
56:20
the Florida State, Clemson game. So I'm watching.
56:23
On TV, on my phone. And he started off good.
56:27
But you know, they and I knew Tebow as a coach.
56:32
I know Tebow's still working. It out he's got.
56:35
Two different quarterbacks. So now he's got to try to figure
56:38
the offense out in a short period of time so you could see
56:41
them getting better. They put up more points.
56:43
They were in the game, had a chance right there at the end
56:46
and then we go into. The Pit Game.
56:50
The Big Pit game was. When Pratt told.
56:54
Him. Because Karen, at that time, is
56:56
still looking over his shoulder. He doesn't.
56:59
Know if Grant's. Back, he doesn't know if the job
57:02
is so now. He's out there trying.
57:03
To be perfect. So, and I'm saying like, you
57:06
can't, you just got to go beat you.
57:08
Well, credit to that staff and that's the talk Tebow and him
57:13
had with it. Like just relax and go beat you.
57:15
You're going to. Because that's.
57:17
They knew you. Know, they tell.
57:18
You. They knew you.
57:19
Know when Pratt said that. He apologized to him after the
57:21
game. Pride told him.
57:24
This team is going to we're going to win games, we're going
57:27
to win games behind you. We're going to win next week
57:29
because of you, because of that or designation.
57:31
That's why he apologized because that or designation on the
57:33
starting QB he. Apologized.
57:36
Because he felt. Like we're losing.
57:37
He's like, how am I going to get a job?
57:38
And we're we're we've lost two games since I've been starting
57:40
and the pit game was kind of when he, you know, he was
57:44
different once the hotel. But when he kind of unleashed
57:48
and did those celebrations and all that stuff, that was really
57:51
like 2 1/2 years of pent up. I hadn't been able to play
57:54
because that's not really him. He hadn't done all of that.
57:57
But he was just being cutting loose.
58:00
Like, OK, if I'm going to get, I'm going to get loose.
58:02
I'm not. I'm not.
58:03
He was loose then. Because he was loose.
58:05
Like when he when you talk about that, like he had gotten to a
58:08
point where he knew he wasn't looking over his shoulder
58:10
anymore so he could just go out there and play football again.
58:14
Yeah. And then that that that's.
58:15
Amazing to see because I mean we saw as as the year progressed
58:19
just that comfort and the leadership really come out and
58:23
on they have. I tell you that group because
58:25
they're close that all of them like you know it's the line,
58:29
it's it's base Shoal, it's felt in his lane, it's Ali, it's you
58:33
know. Osnell.
58:33
He he was so happy when Gosnell got his first touchdown, you
58:37
know, it was, it was like that was on his mind.
58:41
Like Gosnell hadn't scored since he's been in college.
58:42
Like we got to get him in the inside.
58:46
It was you. Know he they're just they have a
58:48
junior like APR all those guys defensively like it's it's.
58:53
A. They have a great ball and.
58:55
That is what you want, and it kind of.
58:57
Reminds. Me and, you know, I remember
59:01
when, you know, carrying them with the Baylor, they were
59:03
coming off that horrible season and then all of them ran it
59:07
back. It was the same thing like all
59:09
them. Dudes, came Petri.
59:10
And all them dudes came back. And then they ended up winning
59:14
the Sugar Bowl and Oklahoma State in the Big 12.
59:17
But it's kind of this kind of reminds a lot of older guys
59:19
coming back. They they kind of all join
59:22
forces and like it's. Still.
59:23
Special again, you got older. Guys going back with a really
59:27
solid youth. I think.
59:29
That's the big thing and I'm actually, well, we'll kick it
59:32
over to Dan here a little bit because Dan hadn't hadn't got a
59:34
chance to jump in here. I I want Dan to talk a little
59:37
bit of like Dan's talked to a lot of the coaches.
59:40
He talked to a lot of the players.
59:41
So Dan, tell me a little bit about some of those
59:45
conversations that you've had with some of those coaches over
59:48
the over the time and how that kind of relates to what what
59:51
we're talking about here with kind of the the team kind of
59:55
taking that next step once Kyron drones took over quarterback?
1:00:01
Well I remember spring game panel pre spring game panel.
1:00:07
Pete asked. Who's going to be QB?
1:00:09
One? And I said Ali Jennings didn't
1:00:12
come to Virginia Tech to catch passes from Grant Wells.
1:00:16
He did. Say that.
1:00:17
I said I remember how I was there.
1:00:19
I was next. To it and.
1:00:21
People label me as like. Grant Wells fanboy #1.
1:00:24
Just cuz I never shit on the kid.
1:00:26
That's not really what I do. Like, if you're play bad, I'll
1:00:28
say it, but I'm never going to like be like, oh, this kid
1:00:31
fucking sucks. Like, you know.
1:00:32
But after I saw that one series from Kyron in the Purdue game, I
1:00:38
tweeted we can't ever go back. He's the one and he's been the
1:00:44
one the whole time. And I think like everybody was
1:00:48
like, Tebow sucks. We got to get rid of Tebow.
1:00:51
He's not the answer to this offense is crap.
1:00:54
But then like come the Purdue game, or not Purdue but the
1:00:59
Pittsburgh game. We saw like the shit open up and
1:01:02
like we started seeing all this stuff.
1:01:04
And Kyron, he doesn't get shook ever.
1:01:07
Like he's just the same dude. And I feel like the whole team
1:01:10
was like our leader. I feel like Grant got in his
1:01:14
head a lot, whereas Kyron doesn't, no matter what good or
1:01:19
bad, like his dad was saying like he's always been even kill.
1:01:23
But it was kind of crazy. Like everybody took on this
1:01:26
mentality. Like, yo, like, this dude
1:01:29
believes nonstop, 100% no matter what.
1:01:32
We believe nonstop no matter what.
1:01:34
And it showed because we took on the identity of we're going to
1:01:37
beat your ass for four quarters. Like, regardless of, you know,
1:01:40
we lost a couple. But at the same time, it was
1:01:42
like we played physical. We hadn't seen physical hokey
1:01:45
ball forever. And not only do we have the
1:01:47
skill players to run it up, but it was just like a dominant
1:01:51
between Basil Kiren and Malachi. Like, they were just like
1:01:55
putting defenses in the dirt. And eventually we were able to
1:01:58
break a couple, you know, and it all came to fruition at AUVA
1:02:03
when we just ran them out of their own building.
1:02:06
And I had talked to the coaches before the season and they were
1:02:11
kind of just like we just met. We need to make a bowl.
1:02:13
Like, let's just make a bowl and then recruiting.
1:02:16
It'll take off. And when we.
1:02:18
Were like one and three where I was leaving the Marshall game.
1:02:21
I was a little dead inside. I was like, what the hell is
1:02:23
going like? What are we going to do?
1:02:25
And then it was just like, I don't know what happened, but it
1:02:28
just changed. And we, a light came on and we
1:02:32
just never looked back. I mean, we took our lumps
1:02:34
because at the same time, we're still trying to rebuild the
1:02:36
roster, right? But we beat the shit out of bad
1:02:39
teams. And that's what you need.
1:02:40
That's what you're supposed. That's what good teams do.
1:02:42
So good teams do. And.
1:02:44
So, and now everybody's coming back, bro.
1:02:46
Come on, run it. Run it.
1:02:48
Back 100% and and Dan that game is we played good enough to win
1:02:53
that game Mr. Drones. Kevin you said a little while
1:02:56
ago it was the pit game and and there's been questions amongst
1:03:01
his fan base, podcast community, Twitter community, When are you
1:03:04
going to know? Like when are you going to know
1:03:07
or pack? And it was a part of that pit
1:03:10
game. It felt it because we we get the
1:03:13
lead and the next thing you know the sack fumble happens And it
1:03:19
was like, I know I think Tally I felt like you and this is 3
1:03:22
months, this is 6434 months ago now.
1:03:24
Tally texted me oh shit, not again.
1:03:26
And then the next drive they went out there and it was just
1:03:29
it was just like this. They they mentioned the NC State
1:03:31
game. We went out there.
1:03:34
We drove down the field. It won't a problem but I'm going
1:03:37
to flip to something real quick because it felt like the Pit
1:03:39
game but I want to talk about 2024.
1:03:41
Let's get Chris back in here for a little while.
1:03:43
Chris and and Kevin too, 'cause obviously your son's obviously
1:03:47
had some interactions and we've all been watching, but once.
1:03:52
Keelan. Committed.
1:03:54
And he was in the. Boat.
1:03:56
And he was like, this is where I'm going to be.
1:03:58
Who did he connect with in the class and who did you get to
1:04:00
meet, whether it be parents, players, where it's like that?
1:04:04
Kids going to be a. Dog when he gets down to tech.
1:04:09
See what? Like y'all?
1:04:10
Like somebody just asked me today, like, who are you
1:04:13
affiliated to? I've been like floating in
1:04:16
meeting everybody, just real, real low key.
1:04:19
Like I met, you know, Kevin's wife.
1:04:21
She was like, hey, can I use that picture for this?
1:04:24
I'm like, yeah, no problem. And then I just introduced
1:04:27
myself. I like being able to just to
1:04:29
float in and meet people and just be a guy.
1:04:33
But for for I guess guess for us was we we connected with like I
1:04:38
said I met Chance Wiggins at Penn State at his at his junior
1:04:42
day. Gabe Williams is is really,
1:04:45
really huge. By going into these spaces and
1:04:48
going into the listen to your podcast, I met y'all.
1:04:51
So I was able to meet you know Don VI, met Dan by listening to
1:04:55
his podcast. So it's kind of like meeting the
1:04:58
the guys and meeting the kids because to them I'm just a
1:05:02
parent, but to kind of just watch them progress and stuff
1:05:05
because I'm a huge fan of damn near every kid on here, You
1:05:09
know, I love Emmett Law's story. You know, I'm a big fan of.
1:05:12
I'm a big fan of Quinton Reddish because he's from Charlotte,
1:05:15
because like I say, Seven O 4 dudes of Bill Devon, he's going
1:05:17
to be a dumb. He's going to be a dumb.
1:05:19
Yeah, he's going to be. Make sure he don't get parted.
1:05:22
In anybody because he like to hit somebody.
1:05:25
He going, he going to knock people out.
1:05:27
Josh Clark, I met his dad because he, he coached the TC
1:05:30
Williams. So you know I'm a big, you know,
1:05:32
remember the Titans guy and you know movie guy.
1:05:34
So I met his dad, met him. So I met a lot of these kids,
1:05:38
you know, the lineman I, you know, I introduced myself to
1:05:41
them. So it's kind of like I've been
1:05:43
able to meet all of them. So for them to get these sixteen
1:05:45
kids, I mean even with. Kamari Copeland.
1:05:50
When they got here you know the other day for for their visit I
1:05:54
made sure I introduced myself to them and talk to them and you
1:05:57
know so I'm I'm kind of really into this class but I I always
1:06:01
give reverence and honor to the 23 class because they got in the
1:06:05
boat when this was going nowhere Dude let me let me let me
1:06:09
explain something y'all man. When that when we went one and
1:06:12
three. Y'all y'all reference back to
1:06:14
the pit game that he changed for KD1.
1:06:18
For me, he changed at the Florida State game I'm watching
1:06:21
at home and I see the look on his face after losing that game.
1:06:25
Kevin, I know you probably saw it too.
1:06:28
He was pissed. He was mad, 'cause he felt I can
1:06:32
compete with these guys. And I said I told my wife right
1:06:35
there, and then I said, oh snap, that dude, He's the guy.
1:06:39
I said we will not be the same. That dude is different.
1:06:43
Like I saw him. And like you said Dan, when I
1:06:46
met him the first time he was out, he just finished throwing
1:06:48
with Ollie. You're right.
1:06:50
He never came. He never came.
1:06:51
Virginia Tech to play with Grant Wills.
1:06:53
He came for Kyron. Drones.
1:06:54
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, right.
1:06:58
Right. Well, we know we.
1:07:00
Know we went, we followed Aaron. Cove.
1:07:04
Absolutely. The mentality.
1:07:05
Of the players, matches, the mentality of the coaches.
1:07:08
I'm going to share a text right now and it's not inside
1:07:10
information at all, so I can share it.
1:07:13
I texted Cheetah after ODU and I was like, locked them down on
1:07:17
Saturday. Relax.
1:07:19
I was like lock them down on Saturday, Coach, I was like love
1:07:22
that for Dory and Cheetahs look good, he said.
1:07:24
They played well, but we still have work to do.
1:07:26
I took this job to be elite, not just OK, we're still a work in
1:07:30
progress. And I was like, see, that's what
1:07:33
I'm talking about. I mean it.
1:07:35
It's. Great.
1:07:36
So everybody's. Bought in, Everybody's bought
1:07:38
in. So it was like so because me and
1:07:41
coach mines and I hate with y'all I call.
1:07:44
I talk to fontel every day. I mean Fontel's like my like my
1:07:48
brother no but no no, it I mean he got a relationship with the
1:07:51
kid but and I got like 5 names for Keela, like I call them the
1:07:56
phenom Neo. I call them all kinds of
1:07:57
different names but me and Fontel talk every day and I
1:08:01
ended up really interacting with the bad boys the whole time.
1:08:04
So when they went one and three and I, I was hitting those guys
1:08:09
every day, like yo stay in the process.
1:08:11
You know, when Ali went down, you know, I really talked to
1:08:13
those guys a lot. But I just watched them change
1:08:16
after that Florida State game because they felt like they
1:08:19
could compete with those guys, but they felt like they can
1:08:23
compete and they were pissed that they didn't play better.
1:08:25
The only time I felt like to me personally, I don't know about
1:08:28
y'all. The only time I felt like they
1:08:30
kind of packed it in and I asked them personally, Kevin, I I went
1:08:33
and asked. I said and then did y'all, did
1:08:35
y'all, did y'all ask, packing in against Louisville and I was
1:08:38
talking to one of my favorite coaches there, Xavier, Debbie.
1:08:41
He said, Man, they saw them get off the bus and physically they
1:08:45
didn't think they were ready to play with them and you could see
1:08:48
the way that they played. So this is still a very, very
1:08:51
young team, but they're A-Team, they're a young team.
1:08:54
But there are kids that are like growing into this thing and
1:08:57
every every phase of this football team is learning and
1:09:01
growing together. So that's why everybody coming
1:09:04
back like you said Kevin is to the point is buying because they
1:09:08
like a now we got our leader now we spent time with each other,
1:09:12
now we believe in each other. Now let's go take the next step
1:09:16
and take this. So me personally as a dad and
1:09:18
and and dropping my kid off, you know as the absolute that's wide
1:09:23
receiver to come out of Hampton Roads since Portcy Harbor.
1:09:27
You know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
1:09:29
You know. I've been, I've been drinking.
1:09:31
So, you know, you know what I'm talking We all been drinking.
1:09:33
We all been drinking. That's the thing.
1:09:35
Let me I'm going to hit that. Hold on.
1:09:36
I'm talking that talk. Now I'm going to hit everybody
1:09:38
up. Because I I got a feeling
1:09:40
Chris's guy in this class is chance because of it's the wide
1:09:43
receiver room. It's you got the Penn State
1:09:46
trips, Let me hit y'all 1 by 1. This is Kevin.
1:09:49
You're going to go last because you're on the team and it's
1:09:51
tough to follow recruiting and keep up with you kid.
1:09:53
Brian Favorite player in this class?
1:09:56
Man, I'm excited. To see Tyler Mason, to be
1:09:58
honest, like he has went out there and torched that crew at
1:10:04
that level in North Carolina, like video game numbers.
1:10:09
If we if we can, if that can translate at all against that
1:10:12
step up in competition, it's going to be filthy.
1:10:16
Riley, I'm going to go to you next because Tyler's in your
1:10:18
neck of the woods. Tyler and Mr. Dandy a couple
1:10:21
times and there are. Some people, they call him Mr.
1:10:23
Dandy because of the things it does.
1:10:24
That's just get the head straight, those those.
1:10:29
Two are going to be. Impressive to watch.
1:10:31
It ain't no doubt. But.
1:10:34
These receivers, they. Got coming in with this 24
1:10:38
class. I mean, you got a lot of
1:10:41
receivers coming back. But you got some.
1:10:44
Kids. Coming in that are going to push
1:10:46
every aspect of them and I know coach minds from.
1:10:52
From his time. At ECU when I was there in
1:10:54
Greenville, and I mean, he's going to get the absolute best
1:10:59
out of everybody. So I'm really.
1:11:02
I'm really excited to see some of those receivers coming in
1:11:04
there. And just one thing I.
1:11:06
Wanted. To add, Chris, you're talking
1:11:09
about how you talk to those guys, receivers, the coaches,
1:11:12
the things like that, but we're talking about the state of the
1:11:15
program. That tells you right.
1:11:17
There where the program is now compared to where it was before,
1:11:21
because as a coach that was having since recruited to try to
1:11:25
go to Virginia now and I couldn't, I couldn't hardly get
1:11:28
some of them on the phone occasionally.
1:11:31
And now they've got kids that are there that are talking to
1:11:34
parents of other people. They can help them and motivate
1:11:37
things. That tells you where the program
1:11:39
is right now, and and and what's changed and why things are
1:11:43
improved, that is. What that pro that?
1:11:47
State of the program is different now than it was just
1:11:51
three. Years ago.
1:11:55
Cheers for that, right? Cheers.
1:11:57
To wrap PB, you look at this class 2024 Who's your guy?
1:12:01
It's hard not to look. At Gabe Williams because one of
1:12:04
his just his rating and and his tape is so impressive.
1:12:08
But two because of our linebacker play this past season
1:12:11
and this is not a disrespect to any of the current guys on the
1:12:13
roster. There's a lot of athletic
1:12:16
linebackers on this roster that may not have a full grasp of the
1:12:20
defense yet. But someone like Gabe could come
1:12:24
in and be a game changer and he, with the way he's seem to be
1:12:28
loving all Virginia Tech and and recruiting other guys to come to
1:12:32
Virginia Tech, I'm rooting for the kid, I really AM.
1:12:35
And so it's an easy answer because he's the top recruit in
1:12:38
the class, but I think it's a very important position going
1:12:42
forward. Not that any of the other ones
1:12:43
aren't, but I did want to. But we we kind of been loving
1:12:49
all both of the the kids of these two men that are on the
1:12:51
show. And I asked kDa tough question.
1:12:54
I kind of have a tough question for for Chris before we get to
1:12:57
Dan's maybe favorite player in the class.
1:12:59
It's just that we see the four guys coming back in the wide
1:13:03
receiver room, the bad boys, they're all back.
1:13:05
That's exciting. Some of them know their targets
1:13:08
are going down for next year because it's simply not enough
1:13:11
footballs to go around. Keelan coming in now he's the
1:13:15
new guy and he he he might have more talent than all of them,
1:13:19
but he's still the new guy and he's the young guy.
1:13:23
That is he. Going to be OK with that kind of
1:13:27
competition and coming in and and maybe not getting on the
1:13:31
field as much as he would at some other schools.
1:13:39
Hey man, I'll tell you all this so y'all can totally understand
1:13:41
it. I I I.
1:13:44
Am so excited that all four of those guys are coming back
1:13:48
because you got to understand, I know what his ultimate goal is
1:13:53
and so it's different between being a high school kid and
1:13:58
being a college athlete because you go from being and coach.
1:14:02
You know what? Both coaches y'all know this.
1:14:04
You go from 100% of the people playing to 7% of the people that
1:14:08
you know playing. These are you go from being my
1:14:11
best friend Rod Clay said to me this years ago.
1:14:14
You go from being the man to being one of the men.
1:14:18
And so you get to get 15 years of college experience inside of
1:14:23
that room from Ollie Jennings to get Daquan Felton, Jalen Lane
1:14:29
and Steven Gosnell, All four of those guys going through that
1:14:32
first six months of being away from home on the college campus,
1:14:36
going through all that, as well as the practices and everything
1:14:40
else to come along with it, he going to need that.
1:14:43
So for me, I'm going to be totally honest with you.
1:14:46
I told him point, we talked about it one day and I was like,
1:14:49
hey, how do you feel about it? He said my chance is going to
1:14:51
come. He said, I love the fact that
1:14:53
they're coming back. I love the fact that I get to
1:14:56
sit in that room and I get to learn how to be a college
1:14:59
athlete. So I said what do we do?
1:15:02
He said we we were special on special teams.
1:15:04
We make sure every Rep we Rep like it's a game time Rep and
1:15:08
then we we get our opportunities.
1:15:09
We get opportunities. And I'm set, man, I'm, I'm
1:15:12
totally set. So if he comes on the scene this
1:15:15
year and he gets the kind of time on the field that Aiden
1:15:18
Green got, but he's able to play in the X and he's playing,
1:15:22
playing at the X outside and playing inside of the slot, then
1:15:26
I know he's going to get his touches.
1:15:27
Because I know he going to get on somebody's child who's, you
1:15:30
know, who's really not a football player.
1:15:32
He's really an accountant, but he's on a football scholarship,
1:15:35
going pro and something. Other than sports.
1:15:39
So I know he's going to get that.
1:15:41
Then he's got a Heisman candidate quarterback for a
1:15:44
while. You.
1:15:48
Know and then he gets the point that he's going to get the
1:15:51
opportunity to work inside of that.
1:15:52
So I'm I'm totally excited man. I I you know I saw somebody say
1:15:57
on Twitter earlier today and we drinking you know about who UVA
1:16:02
got and I was like I saw that kid when he was in high school
1:16:06
but I knew he played at private school so I know what private
1:16:09
school and and and if I know what rich he he played in
1:16:12
Richmond so you got Hermitage you got Highland Springs you got
1:16:16
all those other schools you could have went to.
1:16:18
Yeah but he went and played. With the.
1:16:20
Yeah, he went and played in a private school.
1:16:22
So I said OK, he ain't played against nobody.
1:16:24
And then he goes down to North Carolina and he don't get on the
1:16:27
field. Nope, there's something.
1:16:28
Wrong with. That so I so you know that but
1:16:31
that's neither here nor there but going back to what you said
1:16:34
I think it's the best thing for him as well as chance and I also
1:16:38
think what ends up happening those guys that are there they
1:16:41
got to get they it he what mines is done is pushed to any of
1:16:45
them. You gotta, you gotta reach to
1:16:48
the level, he said. He always says that the standard
1:16:50
has been raised. The stand the.
1:16:53
The, you know, Navy guy, the tide raises all bones.
1:16:57
There you go, baby. So the.
1:16:58
There you. Go.
1:16:59
So yeah, Tide has been raised. Quan Felton is going to raise
1:17:03
the tide because he's a he's a can't go back All Star.
1:17:06
He can't come back to church on the Portsmouth and do nothing
1:17:09
because he don't want to go work in the shipyard, right.
1:17:11
He ain't trying. He ain't trying to do none of
1:17:13
that. He trying to go pro.
1:17:14
So Ali Jennings noticed his last chance for him to get seen and
1:17:17
get good tape. So the the tide is raised.
1:17:20
Stephen Gosnell knew, knows who he is.
1:17:22
Jay Lane could have went went to the pros this year he came back.
1:17:26
So my kids used to get a master's class in how to be a
1:17:30
college athlete, and I was hoping you.
1:17:35
Would answer that question exactly like that And so I'm so
1:17:40
I'm so happy because that's basically what I was thinking is
1:17:43
that the veteran leadership and to learn from Steven Gosnell his
1:17:48
story from this past offseason and fontel minds saying is the
1:17:50
best offseason he's seen out of any athlete like that is a great
1:17:54
kid to be in the room with your son and and learn from.
1:17:59
Yeah, my, my, my. Going into the season, the guy
1:18:02
who I was loving all morning, I told mines.
1:18:04
I said man, I love Tucker Holloway.
1:18:06
I love Tucker Holloway. To to life, man.
1:18:08
If you watch Tucker Holloway practice, man, he he's a go
1:18:11
getter, man. He he's gonna go get it and do
1:18:13
what he has to do. But you know, but Tuck.
1:18:15
Yeah, yeah, I mean y'all we looking as a punt return guy,
1:18:18
but Tucker Holloway works as hard as anybody else out there.
1:18:21
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:18:23
Yeah. All right, let me pitch you.
1:18:25
Down. I'm gonna go down.
1:18:26
Let's talk Dan. Dan now don't suck up, Dan.
1:18:33
Who's your favorite player? This year in this class.
1:18:35
Well, if you. Would have asked.
1:18:36
Me four days ago I would have been like Keeling or Chance,
1:18:39
because those are the two I'm closest with as far as the
1:18:43
recruits go. But any man, or any kid that
1:18:47
will take a train five hours. Why'd you take my duel, man?
1:18:52
Why do you take my guy, man? If you take a train.
1:18:57
If you take a. Train 5 hours to go to school to
1:19:01
make the best possible future for yourself.
1:19:03
You were built different. And Emmett Laws.
1:19:06
He's not the tallest dude people knock his height but that dude
1:19:10
like dog. Give me Emmett Laws.
1:19:12
I'm excited about that kid Such. A such a.
1:19:16
Position of need to like the combination of those two
1:19:20
factors. I think is going to be really
1:19:21
big for him because that's a position where we need some
1:19:24
depth and he seems really hungry and he's been a player.
1:19:29
So I think I think he's going to have a big opportunity.
1:19:33
Chris, I'm going to go back to you real quick, man.
1:19:36
And I mentioned chance, but I'm, I want you to look at just the
1:19:39
just the overall structure of this class.
1:19:41
And as you look at all these gentlemen coming in and
1:19:45
obviously you intermingled with, you know, the parents, the kids,
1:19:49
the families, was there anyone else that stood out to you?
1:19:52
Obviously, you know, I know Chance stood out to you a lot.
1:19:55
Was there anybody else that stood out to you when you when
1:19:57
they committed or when you met them like and that is a that's a
1:20:00
good kid. That kid looks physically built.
1:20:04
Anybody. Kamari Copeland.
1:20:07
OK, Kamari. Kamari Copeland.
1:20:12
Kamari Copeland's path to getting here, of wanting to play
1:20:16
ball at this level and doing the role that he did to get there.
1:20:22
You know, he he's my guy. I root for him more.
1:20:27
I root for him like crazy because he knew what he wanted
1:20:31
to be able to do. The look on his face, man.
1:20:33
When he got on campus, when I saw him Saturday, it was like he
1:20:37
was in absolute heaven. He didn't want to go anywhere
1:20:41
else, you know, He knew this is where he wanted to get to.
1:20:45
So Kamari Copeland, man, is the kid.
1:20:49
Like, I love them all. I'm being honest with you.
1:20:51
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Every last one of them, from Mr.
1:20:55
Dancy to to Tyler Mason. I mean, I love them all.
1:20:58
I know all of them. My wife's like, who that?
1:21:00
Oh, that's Aiden Lynch. Yeah.
1:21:02
You know, Yeah, you know, I know him.
1:21:04
That's the. 672. 90 kid from Jersey, Honey.
1:21:08
Yeah, Jersey. The the couple of kids that, you
1:21:10
know, the guys from Ohio, she's like, oh they're from Ohio, but,
1:21:13
but Kamari Copeland is my guy. To come from where he came from,
1:21:16
to go through what he went through and for him to get a
1:21:18
chance to fulfill his dream, you know, to a man, you know, and I
1:21:23
mean I have I wasn't as blessed as much talent as maybe some of
1:21:26
you other guys. But to a man, that's my guy.
1:21:28
I I root for Kumari Copeland like crazy, Kevin.
1:21:31
What about you, man? Did you get a chance to interact
1:21:33
with any of these guys or did you know, obviously?
1:21:37
The quarterback room. Did did did you get to?
1:21:40
Did Kev? Did Kyra have any interactions
1:21:42
with Davi this year or yeah, through?
1:21:45
Kern. You know he, You know he was.
1:21:48
He. Was big on meeting Montavius.
1:21:52
He was actually we we FaceTime. When he was when Peoples was
1:21:56
there with an APR, he was actually an APRAPR.
1:22:01
Lives right under underneath him.
1:22:02
In the apartment. Downstairs.
1:22:04
But he he was in AP Rs talking to peoples about trying to get
1:22:07
him to come. And so I kind.
1:22:10
Of. Knew the back story and you know
1:22:13
the Sam Brumfield and you know those are the, you know,
1:22:18
honestly I I was big in the portal because I wanted to reach
1:22:21
out and help. You know, like I told you know,
1:22:24
Tebow was like do you mind reaching out to parents once we
1:22:26
zero in on people you know and tell them about your stuff.
1:22:29
I was like I had no problems just send them my way.
1:22:32
So I was big in the portal. Not so much the high school.
1:22:35
Now, Chris, of course I know that.
1:22:37
Oh man. I'm the absolute work.
1:22:40
I will drive your kid all way. To black.
1:22:59
I'd ask Chris. Just tell.
1:23:01
Just tell me what? The refillable gas card number
1:23:03
is and we'll we'll get you set up kind of Go ahead.
1:23:06
No, I was just saying. I was pumped with the the portal
1:23:08
pickups we got. I thought, you know, we we
1:23:12
addressed the needs that we needed.
1:23:13
You know, Sam Brumfield's is with that experience and and
1:23:16
what he brings and he goes anywhere.
1:23:19
Like, you know, the last Middle Tennessee State guy we got, it's
1:23:22
going to be great. And you know, Peebles is huge
1:23:27
with that experience and you put him on the line with APR and and
1:23:30
the way Colt Nelson played a game.
1:23:33
Just like the cold. Coldplay, Colt Nelson played at
1:23:36
the end of those last couple of games.
1:23:37
You know, I'm a defensive Burgos game.
1:23:40
Burgos games. Burgos.
1:23:41
Stepped up corners coming. Back.
1:23:43
And you know I hate canteen left.
1:23:46
I'm still holding out hope. Privately, I'm still holding out
1:23:49
hope that you know. And he come back.
1:23:53
Run it back. Let's Let's get everybody but
1:23:57
Peebles and Sam. Brumfield and hey, don't don't
1:23:59
do that. Don't do that.
1:24:00
Don't say get everybody, but I know you know who I'm talking
1:24:03
about. You know we talking.
1:24:05
About you You watch this show Enough.
1:24:06
You know what I'm talking about, You know?
1:24:08
Yeah, I know. I.
1:24:09
Know hey. I'm going to talk to.
1:24:10
My boss man because Jeremy pays some of our bills Over here,
1:24:13
Jeremy recruiting class portal Who are you excited to see?
1:24:18
You drained, Elizabeth. Excited to see.
1:24:22
I'm excited that. We're actually bringing some
1:24:24
offensive lineman in. I hate.
1:24:28
This shit talker offensive line. I hate to do it.
1:24:31
Because I appreciate everything the offensive line does all the
1:24:35
time, but we are a few years removed from the vice squad that
1:24:39
was so good and does not get enough appreciation.
1:24:42
In a lot of ways, I'm. Glad we're.
1:24:45
Bringing in some offensive lineman, because that's what we
1:24:48
need. We have to win the battle with
1:24:50
trenches because we have the skill positions already.
1:24:55
We've got them, yeah. You're right.
1:24:57
Win the battle with the. Trenches.
1:24:59
And guess what? We've got a championship.
1:25:02
And Kyron runs. Enough.
1:25:03
We don't need them getting hit in the backfield too, you know
1:25:05
what I'm saying? So let's let's protect our we
1:25:08
bring these kids on and. We actually have them go.
1:25:11
We've got the skill positions, we got the playmakers.
1:25:13
We can actually do this. We can have an actual playoff
1:25:17
run if we do it right. And I'm glad we're filling those
1:25:20
positions because guess what? We're spending the money to do
1:25:23
it. We're going to do it right.
1:25:26
Next year is a very big year for us.
1:25:30
We have to do. We are 90 minutes.
1:25:38
In this is normally the the the part of no return Here we got.
1:25:43
To fire everything off, right? Here.
1:25:48
So. Drinks.
1:25:51
He's a lot. More.
1:25:54
Hold on the first thing. Jeremy said immediately.
1:25:56
This hold on, Robbie. The first thing Jeremy was
1:25:58
talking about is we are on the trajectory back to where we
1:26:01
were. That means Jeremy.
1:26:03
Doesn't have to drink as much as we used to because it used to be
1:26:07
a lot of drinking because it was like, yeah, our asses has
1:26:09
followed this team for 20 years. Like, what the fuck is this?
1:26:12
Hey, Curtis, remember the first state of the program where it
1:26:15
was just me, you and Jeremy? Oh God, no.
1:26:19
After Fuente was supposed to be. Fired, but wasn't 2020.
1:26:22
Oh my God. It.
1:26:25
Was bad as last year. Tally I was so.
1:26:28
Mad mad you. Were drunk all Jameson.
1:26:31
Because that was like. COVID year.
1:26:34
Yeah, it was. And also I'm.
1:26:36
In healthcare, I was dealing with fucking COVID year and then
1:26:38
COVID year and then it. Was us.
1:26:42
Hiring. It's.
1:26:44
Us three, we all got no. We had a press conference to say
1:26:47
we were keeping him on the day the buyout dropped.
1:26:49
That's what that's actually what we did first, first.
1:26:53
Retainment. Cop.
1:26:54
Press conference. Ever.
1:26:55
Oh God. So.
1:26:57
By the way, I still to this day, if you look at Whip Babcock's
1:27:00
face, Whip Babcock was ready to fire.
1:27:02
He looks like he had a gun to his head, man.
1:27:06
Somebody had a gun to his head to go out to that press
1:27:08
conference. His body I'm gonna chase.
1:27:09
Him real quick. Hold on y'all look the fuck
1:27:12
down. God damn like being a Sergeant
1:27:14
on in a God damn 30 run Tally. Tally.
1:27:17
Kurt, I'm gonna come after you, man.
1:27:19
Tally. Hey.
1:27:21
Recruiting class. Portal class Who's your
1:27:24
favorite? Oh, oh wait, Kevin mixing.
1:27:26
It up there, baby. Shake it up.
1:27:29
Did we already did? Pete already give him.
1:27:31
I never said Gabe. I said.
1:27:31
Gabe, you were. You were me.
1:27:34
And you were left, yeah. You didn't say Gabe.
1:27:37
Yeah, I forgot about. That so?
1:27:40
I don't know, man. I guess it's so much good stuff
1:27:42
that goes into this recruiting class.
1:27:44
The people that we got coming in, like, I like a lot a guy
1:27:47
like Chaz Wiggins, because he reminds me that body size
1:27:52
reminds me kind of what Quan gives us.
1:27:55
We didn't have a lot of big body receivers for a long time.
1:27:59
So to see us get a receiver or see us get somebody that's going
1:28:02
to feel the place of somebody who's leaving, that's good.
1:28:05
But if I had to just pick one person out of this class, I
1:28:09
guess I would probably go with Gerald Johnson, just the the
1:28:13
defensive lineman. I mean, if you watch his, if you
1:28:17
watch his tape, man, like he's nasty, He's nasty and like.
1:28:22
When you look at somebody. Like APR?
1:28:24
Yeah. When you look at somebody like
1:28:25
APR, we watched him come out of high school and we always miss
1:28:29
on those type kids. You know like you see somebody
1:28:32
that has that potential and we miss on them and they go to
1:28:35
Florida or they go to we see them pop up at Wake Forest or we
1:28:39
see them pop up at Pitt. We don't get those type kids
1:28:41
where you know I know I think it was between US and UVA for him
1:28:45
and he and he and UVA has got some nice lineman in the last
1:28:48
couple of years that I think you know turned out to be decent
1:28:53
defensive lineman. So to see him choose the Hokies
1:28:57
and and stick with it, like I'm excited for him to put some more
1:29:00
weight on. I'm excited for him to get in
1:29:02
there and mix it up, number 75. Seven, all of these kids.
1:29:05
Man, I was about to say. That beach, I was about to say
1:29:09
that the. Two top recruits.
1:29:11
In this class are in the. 757 we have not said.
1:29:15
That in a long and Kamari's number we.
1:29:18
Are he's 7572? Yeah.
1:29:21
He's sure, yeah. He's like come.
1:29:22
On in high school. Yeah, I'm glad, Kamari.
1:29:23
Came too, because we how many times we heard that Virginia
1:29:26
Tech was my dream school. And then we were like, oh shit.
1:29:29
And that's what. Everything said and.
1:29:31
I. Mean I I always said the same
1:29:32
damn thing. I mean, I always back in the
1:29:34
fold now, but I always said the same damn thing at the gate.
1:29:38
This is what I'll. Say though, no, you good.
1:29:40
This is what I'll say. Like, because I've said that
1:29:44
we've had Matteo on our show a couple of times and I always say
1:29:47
the same thing. And him.
1:29:48
I always fuck with him. Like those ratings, number one,
1:29:51
don't mean shit once they get on campus.
1:29:54
You know what I'm saying? The ratings don't mean shit.
1:29:56
Once they. Get on campus.
1:29:58
You know what I'm saying? So offers tape different things
1:30:02
that they do in high school is what somebody like probably this
1:30:05
panel looks at. You know, you look at a kid like
1:30:08
Keaton Adams, if he would have chose Ohio State or Alabama,
1:30:12
there's no way his rating. There's no way his.
1:30:16
Rating is where it's at, so you know what I'm saying.
1:30:19
I used to take I. Used to pay so much attention to
1:30:22
like the stars or where our class is and things like that.
1:30:26
But once you start looking at these kids, body of work, when
1:30:29
you start like, again, I'm not just trying to beat the drum
1:30:33
that we're right. But we was fucking right.
1:30:35
Go back and look at Kyra drones in high school.
1:30:38
Go back and look at him in high school and he played in Texas
1:30:41
against some of the best high school kids that are.
1:30:44
And you going to tell me that this kid didn't have something
1:30:47
special? I don't care.
1:30:49
I don't know what his rating was.
1:30:50
I don't care what his rating was.
1:30:51
I'm just telling you when you start evaluating these kids or
1:30:55
looking at these kids as a fan, you have to look at the body of
1:30:58
work. You go look at what Chaz
1:30:59
Wiggins. Chaz Wiggins is a monster.
1:31:02
If you go look at what he's doing at the wide receiver
1:31:04
position he is doing some shit that other wide receivers can't
1:31:08
do because he's 63 and and and and damn near 210 lbs like he's
1:31:14
a big body receiver. So the the rating system fucks
1:31:17
me up a lot of times and I, you know, I know the only reason I
1:31:20
brought that up because we say the highest rated player we got
1:31:23
or this is the IT don't even matter because all of them
1:31:26
should have been higher than they were because they started
1:31:28
there. And then when they commit to a
1:31:30
certain school, because they don't have enough fans, they
1:31:33
fucking drop the rating. So guess what?
1:31:35
247. Fuck.
1:31:36
Y'all Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy, you know.
1:31:40
What Karen reminds me of. He reminds me of what we wanted
1:31:44
Demetrius Davis to be, and we ended up.
1:31:47
Being way. Better.
1:31:50
Well, he's way bigger. Yeah, way bigger.
1:31:53
But. He ain't just.
1:31:55
Like Demetrius, Davis was like 5-10.
1:31:58
He was like. He was like the kid back to the
1:32:03
day whenever he did. Can be like.
1:32:05
I would say this, yeah. You talking about I?
1:32:07
Wish I loved. It's.
1:32:09
Just like, so much better than we even hoped.
1:32:13
So I'll say. This.
1:32:14
I hope somebody loves everyone on this panel the way Brad
1:32:17
Cronnelson loved the 510 quarterback because.
1:32:22
He loved the five. 10 quarterback with a limited arm
1:32:24
talent, man. So I want to I want to make a
1:32:26
point because Tyler was bringing it up and we I'm going to man,
1:32:29
y'all know, y'all Kevin, Chris, this is what I got to do.
1:32:32
I deal with all these guys, bring them to fuck in and we
1:32:34
will talk about. Something this is.
1:32:36
Why Curtis is here, man and. Tonight I'm on Bourbons.
1:32:40
So. Here's the deal, right?
1:32:41
Let's talk about it because we're going to talk about this.
1:32:43
Let's talk about the star system, because I don't like
1:32:46
that shit. Because hey, go look at Kyron.
1:32:50
When he came over, Kyron was a four-star quarterback.
1:32:54
Kyron produced in Hyrum on a. State Title.
1:32:58
He wasn't long at. He was not that long at Baylor.
1:33:00
It's not like he was there for three years and rode the bench,
1:33:03
rode the bench, rode the bench he went to.
1:33:05
He had a game in West Virginia where he played good cold.
1:33:09
I think what irritated. A lot of us this year, Chris,
1:33:12
your son unfortunately took the unfortunately took the brunt of
1:33:16
it. So did Gabe Williams.
1:33:17
For a while there, these guys were elite players, top 300
1:33:21
guys. They committed to Tech in just a
1:33:24
few days later. Tally's texting me.
1:33:28
Fucking shit, Brody. Just went down like from a 92 to
1:33:31
an 80. 9. Gabe went down from a fucking 93
1:33:35
to a This is the shit that we all need to talk about.
1:33:38
And I'm going to pitch it. I'm going to.
1:33:40
I want to start with my two coaches.
1:33:43
Kevin. Robbie because y'all have to
1:33:45
deal with it. Kevin.
1:33:48
Robbie. Kevin, your son did it.
1:33:50
Robbie, you've had two kids who have went to the highest level
1:33:54
of football. Then they went to the NFL.
1:33:56
And if they go to the wrong place.
1:34:00
Oh, son, you're going. To get you going, you won't get
1:34:02
dropped. Are there anything they're?
1:34:05
Doing other than what we think of of is you didn't commute to
1:34:08
Georgia or Alabama or Texas, so we going to drop your ass?
1:34:11
Yeah, that's. That's.
1:34:15
Exactly what it is like. End of the.
1:34:20
Day go you. Go to the.
1:34:23
Place that's going to prepare you the best to do what your
1:34:26
ultimate goal is it. Doesn't matter.
1:34:29
Where the school is or what you know, it doesn't have to be the
1:34:32
top school. Nobody says you have to go to
1:34:34
Alabama to to be in the NFL. You don't have to go to Georgia
1:34:39
to be in the NFL. At some point you just got to
1:34:41
get on the field, but you got to be ready to to produce once you
1:34:44
get on the field it. Doesn't matter where that.
1:34:46
Is. You just want an.
1:34:47
Opportunity. And you?
1:34:50
Know kind of like you know like my thing was when when both boys
1:34:54
got in there, you know Jeremiah was looking to increase the
1:34:58
level of competition from UTEP to prepare himself for the NFL.
1:35:03
He was further along in his career than Kyron was.
1:35:06
Kyron was just looking for an opportunity to get on the field
1:35:08
and prove that he could play. You know they were in they had
1:35:11
different passions going into the portal and they were looking
1:35:14
for different things. You know Kyron just happened to
1:35:17
find a a home and and. A.
1:35:20
And A and a great coaching staff and fan base that was best for
1:35:23
him. Jeremiah found the whole line
1:35:26
coach that was best for him. You know his thing.
1:35:28
He had never played for a black hole line coach, OK?
1:35:32
You. Know so.
1:35:33
It was. And it ain't many of them at
1:35:34
that level that's crazy. He had never.
1:35:38
So. You know, and that's why he went
1:35:41
there like he he could have went other places he went, he went to
1:35:45
Ohio State and Miami and Oregon, all that stuff.
1:35:47
But he chose the coach, not the the program.
1:35:54
You know what? I'm saying and it.
1:35:55
Just so happened it was. Crazy.
1:35:56
They both ended up in the ACC because we didn't think that
1:36:01
like you know when they both in the border, we're thinking it's
1:36:04
going to be somewhere around here, UA to Oklahoma State
1:36:07
somewhere like that. And then we get a random call
1:36:10
from Virginia Tech and it was like and I grew up watching
1:36:13
Virginia Tech. You know, I was watching the
1:36:15
night the the lightning hit course of the Star 2. 1000.
1:36:22
I don't know what. A humpty is but God is one of
1:36:23
them. When we were in.
1:36:24
That indoor. Facility.
1:36:25
When it stormed, that's all I was thinking about.
1:36:28
I was like, damn, it's happening again.
1:36:31
Hey Sigler, we. Didn't we didn't walk enough
1:36:32
around in the indoor facility to find Kevin that night?
1:36:35
No, we didn't. We found Kenny indoor likes that
1:36:37
night. We didn't find Kevin.
1:36:38
We did find Kenny, man. We we we found Kevin.
1:36:41
I interviewed Brian. Steinspring and he was talking
1:36:43
about that night or whatever and he said that Mike Vick was
1:36:47
internal. Mike Vick was in the tunnel.
1:36:49
He's getting hyped and and Steinie was like, hey man, like
1:36:52
it's going to be a massive delay like there's lightning out
1:36:55
there. Like you got to chill.
1:36:56
And he was like, don't matter, can't it can't, it can't hit me
1:37:00
like. He's like the lightning angle,
1:37:03
he said. Lightning angle hit me.
1:37:05
Can't catch me, baby. When?
1:37:07
When it comes to those. Ratings and stuff man.
1:37:10
I I've been through it with with kids and and they.
1:37:13
Focus. I've had some of them focus so
1:37:15
much on it, you know. We've tried to tell them.
1:37:21
That. The best thing I can think of to
1:37:23
look at it is like when you're taking.
1:37:25
AP. Classes compared to regular
1:37:27
classes. It's weighted.
1:37:30
So when? Certain people.
1:37:31
Make you certain offers and you go to.
1:37:34
Certain. Places the.
1:37:35
Weight of. That offer carries more in that
1:37:38
rating then. Unfortunately.
1:37:42
Then what they put on the field and show?
1:37:44
And I I don't. Like that part of it, the whole
1:37:47
thing with the stars and things like that.
1:37:50
Look at what the kids doing on the field.
1:37:52
Look at how the kids practicing. Look at how the kids for you
1:37:54
that's going to tell you the story of what you're going to
1:37:56
get when he gets on the field. Not that number that I mean I
1:38:01
I've. Seen kids?
1:38:02
I had, you know, I coached kids a day.
1:38:05
They were, too. Small.
1:38:06
They were. Not.
1:38:07
Fast enough, they were. Ratings weren't high.
1:38:10
Enough to go to these schools that they.
1:38:12
Wanted to go to or. They thought they could go to.
1:38:15
Two of them right now in the. NFL Both of them have played in.
1:38:18
Super Bowls. So tell me that that kid didn't
1:38:21
measure up to. What you thought?
1:38:23
Because of some number on that. No.
1:38:26
I I don't. I mean that That's 20 years of
1:38:28
high school experience and see if.
1:38:29
They. Some of them get those numbers
1:38:31
and it never pans out. I had one that.
1:38:33
Went to Virginia. Tech years ago.
1:38:35
Numbers through the roof. He couldn't.
1:38:37
Listen to what? Anybody would tell it coach,
1:38:42
Coach Foster, that's why. I've.
1:38:45
Ever brought? In.
1:38:46
So tempted to work. With.
1:38:48
He goes and I seem. Attempted because it's not going
1:38:50
to last and it didn't, so I mean sorry, Coach Kev told.
1:38:56
That story on me, man, He told that story about your guy on me,
1:38:59
Robbie, I remember. Hey Chris.
1:39:01
But let me ask you how that affects though.
1:39:02
Does is someone like actually? Both of.
1:39:05
Y'all because you know. Chris.
1:39:09
Keelan coming out this year and then Kevin just coming out.
1:39:13
Kevin Cowan coming out just a few years ago.
1:39:15
Do they watch it? Do they care about it?
1:39:17
Because the honest truth is I'm going to sit here.
1:39:20
Keelan Adams was a 94, I hate to say that number, And now he's an
1:39:25
89 somehow. What changed with Keelan Adams?
1:39:27
He's playing the same competition.
1:39:29
He's burning them the same fucking way.
1:39:31
He's breaking state records left and right.
1:39:34
Fucking records. He's a fucking Allstate for his
1:39:37
third year, and because he want to go Virginia Tech and not
1:39:40
Alabama or not Georgia or not Texas or not Florida, we got to
1:39:45
lower him down because he ain't that good.
1:39:46
He ain't that good. That kid just fucking broke
1:39:48
records. Go back to all of the guys who
1:39:51
have played wide receiver in this state.
1:39:54
There's a. Lot of them.
1:39:55
There's a lot of good ones. Does he look at it or does he
1:39:58
say screw them? I'm going to show them on the
1:40:00
field. OK, so I'm going to tell you
1:40:02
his. Progression go for it.
1:40:06
When they first came out. When they first came out with
1:40:08
his the class and he was the number 11th ranked player in the
1:40:11
country country. In the country.
1:40:16
And for a minute he was like, I'm not getting the offers.
1:40:20
I don't know what to do. And that really bothered him.
1:40:22
Then he got before he took his first high school snap.
1:40:26
He got nine offers before he took his first high school snap.
1:40:31
Then he was like. OK, I got these nine offers.
1:40:34
Then he turned around and he did the only thing that ever knocked
1:40:40
Keeling down. And I always blame my whenever
1:40:43
he has something that goes left and I'm not there, Kevin.
1:40:47
I blame me because I feel, as his father is my responsibility
1:40:51
to protect him. I was working.
1:40:53
My wife took him to Baltimore, to a Under Armour camp and he
1:40:57
ran the 40, right? And I wasn't there to not have
1:41:02
him run the 40 because the 40 is a test that you really only need
1:41:06
to take one time. You run it one time and that's
1:41:09
all you ever have to do is you never have to run it again.
1:41:11
So he ran the 40. His time was atrocious and they
1:41:15
ranked him as he was slow. He wasn't this but if you look
1:41:19
at any of his tape, any of his huddle tape, Keeneland has never
1:41:22
been walked down in the in the years I've watched him play
1:41:26
ever. No one's ever caught him from
1:41:27
behind ever. So and and really be honest with
1:41:31
you, he's faster now than he was last year.
1:41:34
He's just more explosive than he was last year.
1:41:36
So when Keelan went to that camp and Under Armour knocked him and
1:41:41
hit him for that 40 because they were like, oh, if you run this
1:41:44
40, you can go to this All American game.
1:41:46
He'd be in the ninth grade. He's like, I just want to go to
1:41:48
All American game. He didn't know if he just kept
1:41:50
playing. He was going to get the
1:41:51
opportunity to go to the All American game.
1:41:53
So he turned around, they knocked him down, they they
1:41:57
raided him and he wasn't this, that and the other.
1:41:59
And then he kept working his way back up.
1:42:01
So there was nothing he ever did wrong.
1:42:03
He doesn't do a lot of social media stuff.
1:42:06
He doesn't, he doesn't like doing interviews.
1:42:08
I have to fight him to get him to do interviews, to make so
1:42:11
people will talk to him. You got him.
1:42:14
I've been trying. To get him to go on everybody's
1:42:16
stuff so they can get to know him.
1:42:17
So yeah, yeah, Dan, Dan, Dan Dan's the guy.
1:42:21
And but it was just to the point with him.
1:42:24
He got to the point he says I don't care about the rankings
1:42:27
because I'm already committed and I'm going to college and
1:42:32
I'm, I'm good with the fact the only thing he was pissed about
1:42:35
is when he took his star. Excuse me.
1:42:38
So I'm the one that gets pissed about the star situation because
1:42:42
to me, if he didn't do anything egregious off the field like
1:42:47
this, I'm stupid. Which he doesn't do.
1:42:51
Then what he's done on the field has been nothing but stellar.
1:42:54
You know, he, you know, you know, he's, he's been an
1:42:57
excellent ball player on the field.
1:42:59
I always say this, like this. He caught more passes than Percy
1:43:02
Harmons. Percy Harmons was the first guy
1:43:04
I looked at when I came here to Virginia Beach.
1:43:06
I saw him catch a bubble screen, make a step and go away from
1:43:10
him. I said, oh, that's what the NFL
1:43:11
speed looks like. I said OK.
1:43:14
That's what I. Said So.
1:43:15
I said OK if he can pass him and get the yards and the
1:43:19
touchdowns. Everything else is, is, is, you
1:43:21
know, through the room. Right.
1:43:23
So what? What I've always learned here,
1:43:25
and I don't know, Kevin, if you feel like what happens down
1:43:28
there in Texas, the 757 hates their own, OK?
1:43:32
And we taping this so they'll be able to say it.
1:43:34
The 757 hates their own. And I say that because all the
1:43:39
great players that have ever come out of here, they don't
1:43:41
come back. They don't.
1:43:43
Come back? To do do stuff in the area.
1:43:46
They love Iverson, but the other guys they they, you know, Xavier
1:43:50
DB is right there in Virginia Tech.
1:43:52
There shouldn't be a player that comes out of Phoebus that
1:43:55
shouldn't go to Virginia Tech because Xavier DB is an absolute
1:44:00
stud. But because this area hates
1:44:03
their own players, they don't come back.
1:44:05
That's crazy. So I.
1:44:07
Mean. Think about it.
1:44:08
Y'all don't understand. Alonzo Mourning.
1:44:10
If y'all didn't know he's from Chesapeake.
1:44:12
You thought he was from Miami, right?
1:44:14
D'Angelo Hall. I haven't seen him here in Ever,
1:44:17
right. Dre Blige just came here to rape
1:44:19
the area when he was playing. Rape is the appropriate.
1:44:22
Word rape the area. Rape the area when he went to.
1:44:25
Carolina So those guys don't come back because those guys
1:44:29
hate their own great players here.
1:44:32
So for him, when they took his star, he was pissed and and low
1:44:37
key. Yeah, low key.
1:44:40
I'm going to be told I'm going to say this to you Also on here.
1:44:42
I'm glad they took it, and I'm gonna tell you why.
1:44:45
That kid. He's a different kid When he got
1:44:48
a chip on his shoulder ready to eat, he's.
1:44:49
An. Absolute different animal when
1:44:53
you tell him he can't do something.
1:44:56
So they took his star, they knocked him down.
1:45:00
They said he wasn't this. And so he'll say, OK, if I'm
1:45:04
that, let me prove it to you. Let me show you what I got.
1:45:08
Yeah, let me show you what I got.
1:45:09
So he he's going to come up there now, like I said, for me
1:45:13
and and and Kevin, you understand what I'm saying?
1:45:15
Yeah, Number 6:00 in the morning, that's going to hit.
1:45:18
I always say this everybody that 2:00 in the, everybody's got to
1:45:21
have their 2:00 in the morning moment.
1:45:24
Mine was 1988. I'm flying from Charlotte, NC to
1:45:29
go to San Diego, CA for boot camp.
1:45:32
I'm there. I drove off.
1:45:33
We flew all day. I got there.
1:45:35
I laid down at 12, o'clock 2:00 in the morning.
1:45:37
They run down the hall with a garbage can bag and get your ass
1:45:40
up, get your ass up and get ready.
1:45:42
And I woke up and I was like, I don't know where I'm at and I
1:45:45
can't get my ass home. So I got to figure it out and.
1:45:49
And. So that's what he's got to have
1:45:51
happen. But I don't think.
1:45:54
I think, like I said and I told y'all before, I think being in
1:45:56
that room, excuse me, with those group of guys we'll be fine.
1:46:01
But the star system, I'm just waiting when it's officially
1:46:04
he's at school so I can talk trash to 24/7, all three and
1:46:08
rivals because I hate all of them, because I think it.
1:46:11
I think it really messes with kids psyche because they have no
1:46:16
idea what to do, what to do, to get seen, to get ranked, to get
1:46:20
rated and all that stuff matters, All that all.
1:46:24
That all that. Stuff matters when they when
1:46:26
they're like you'll see guys, you look look at their write
1:46:29
ups, like if you look at his 24/7, Keelan's 24/7 write up,
1:46:33
they didn't rank, they didn't compare him to a pro player.
1:46:37
They they compared him to a guy in College in fucking Penn
1:46:41
State. Excuse me, I've been drinking.
1:46:43
That's what it's about. Tonight.
1:46:46
He's in Penn. He's in Penn.
1:46:48
He's in Penn State. God damn it.
1:46:50
And so I'm like, how you going to compare him to a guy that's
1:46:53
in Penn State that hasn't broken out when you try to give him a
1:46:55
comparison? You gave all the other jokers,
1:46:58
pro guys, oh, this guy, this guy, this guy, you know, But
1:47:01
y'all gave him a guy in college who you know, who's having a
1:47:03
hard time figuring, you know, whether he want to stay or want
1:47:06
to go. He can't get the boy.
1:47:07
He got the ass quarterback, all that kind of stuff.
1:47:10
So it kind of pissed me off. But it doesn't affect him like
1:47:14
it affects me. He's like, I don't care.
1:47:17
I'm going to college. I'm, I'm, I'm, I got a free
1:47:19
ride. So, you know, yeah, I I got, I
1:47:23
got. Well, I don't have a free ride.
1:47:24
I got a ride. I got to work.
1:47:25
Exactly. But I got a.
1:47:26
Great chance that. I ain't got to go to school and
1:47:28
pay no and no and no college students and that.
1:47:31
And that's. And that's that's his mindset.
1:47:33
That's what we That's why I. Wanted to leave that Dwight
1:47:35
Victoria quote up there. Curtis, throw it back on me.
1:47:37
I'm throwing it back because I'm also messaging Dwight.
1:47:40
See if you want to hop on with us tonight man.
1:47:42
Man, that is my. Hey, listen, that is my guy,
1:47:44
White as we. Do I love them so?
1:47:48
Much man for them, just. Spending time When?
1:47:50
You're talking to me, man. I love those cats, man.
1:47:53
I like. Everyone of you have been very
1:47:55
vocal on Twitter and other space like other platforms about this
1:47:59
whole thing. I remember they dropped Keelan
1:48:03
and Keelan hadn't had any new tape in like 7 or 8 months.
1:48:06
So I'm like, where's your? We railed on that.
1:48:08
Shit. I mean, we railed on it.
1:48:09
Dan railed on it. He reeled on it. 3 words.
1:48:14
No, they dropped. Him. 3 words ball don't lie.
1:48:17
No, dude, they dropped. No, they dropped him.
1:48:19
They dropped him after he. They dropped him after he he
1:48:23
broke the touchdown, right? Yeah, that was crazy.
1:48:25
Clown. Clown Dick, baby.
1:48:27
Yeah, yeah, I I turned around. I clicked on it and I was just
1:48:31
scrolling. I was like, they dropped him.
1:48:34
So you know, his Mama is like, y'all got me.
1:48:37
His mom's real bad. She like she she goes off
1:48:40
because she felt like they're attacking her baby.
1:48:42
Kevin, you know how that is. You don't attack my baby.
1:48:44
You know, no matter what, I've had some serious.
1:48:47
Talks don't mess. With Obama, man.
1:48:49
Don't mess with Mama, Mama and girlfriend.
1:48:52
I had some. Serious talks?
1:48:55
And then when you look at it on the other side, the kid who we
1:48:58
had committed for a long time, Marcella's Barnes.
1:49:03
OK, yeah, they start writing up stuff.
1:49:06
They had him as a three star the whole time and then they start
1:49:08
writing up stuff about him going to Georgia and then he jumps to
1:49:11
a four-star. I say, you son of a bitches,
1:49:13
like what are we doing? Like y'all just making it
1:49:18
obvious. Y'all making it obvious what it
1:49:20
is. So come on, man.
1:49:21
Like I've had. Yeah.
1:49:23
I've I've had, I've had guys say, hey, listen, the reason
1:49:25
they drive them because he went here, I said, what the fuck?
1:49:28
What does that mean? Watch the fucking tape.
1:49:31
You know what I'm. Saying like watch the fucking
1:49:34
tape his tape. Is what his tape?
1:49:36
Is and you know and and it it it goes from there.
1:49:39
So it's just to the point where when if it gets back, when it
1:49:43
gets back, not if. But when you get back to the
1:49:45
point that we're winning 8910 games, we're winning game, we're
1:49:48
winning bowl games, we're being decisive.
1:49:50
Then when kids decide to come here then coaches y'all know the
1:49:54
narrative will change. Well, hey, I mean shoot, I'll be
1:49:57
honest with you. There's been kids this past
1:49:59
cycle who jumped out The Who in the portal.
1:50:02
They're hitting me like, hey Chris, you know, hey coach, hey.
1:50:06
And I ain't coaching nothing. Can you go, can you go call and
1:50:11
talk to such and such and such and such to get me in?
1:50:13
And I'm telling them point blank, hey man, ain't no room.
1:50:18
And they look at me. What you mean ain't no room, I
1:50:20
said. There.
1:50:21
Is no, there is no room. So we doing the state of the
1:50:24
program. I, you know, I'm like there's a
1:50:26
cornerback. Yeah, there's a cornerback.
1:50:28
Yeah, Yes, I said there's a cornerback.
1:50:30
Hey, there's no room in that room.
1:50:31
They said, what you mean? I said, 'cause they got this
1:50:33
guy, they got this guy, they got this guy that they got last
1:50:36
year, you know, they got a Dante Lovett, they got a Braylon
1:50:38
Johnson, they got, they like, God damn Chris, how you know?
1:50:40
I said because it's what I do. I ain't got nothing else to do,
1:50:43
you know, I'm watching it. I said no room.
1:50:45
They're, they're. They're not.
1:50:46
Going to bring you in and they got these over here.
1:50:49
Who jumped in the boat when? Nobody.
1:50:53
Else. Wanted.
1:50:58
To. Jump in the boat.
1:51:05
Oh, hey, we said. We keep it loose, man.
1:51:07
If they want to jump on, hey, here we are, Dwight.
1:51:09
I messaged Dwight earlier and I say, Dwight, you going to the
1:51:12
bowl game? He didn't get back to me because
1:51:14
I know his son's playing. Oops.
1:51:15
No, no, no. We own right now.
1:51:19
His son is driving. Through the lane and dunking on
1:51:22
kids, I was. I meant to respond.
1:51:25
And I got tired of I I looked at the message.
1:51:27
When you say you want to get on, I said, Damn.
1:51:29
I never responded to your first question.
1:51:30
Yes, I will be at the ball game. Yes, I'll be there.
1:51:40
We made nothing. That's fine.
1:51:44
That's fine. Yeah.
1:51:45
The white I'lbr so. Listen.
1:51:48
I used. To write for 247 Sports Now.
1:51:51
Before that I was I wrote for Rivals, so I wrote for Rivals on
1:51:54
Hokey Haven. I had a a column called
1:51:59
Victoria's Viewpoints and it was when Brian Moore ran Hokey Haven
1:52:04
and he left and 247 popped off. I joined 247 with CCY.
1:52:09
Evan and some other guys had a great time and because I did
1:52:13
stuff, I used to do football camps back then and that's why I
1:52:16
got the behind the scenes stuff for how it works.
1:52:19
And I used to get into it with those guys.
1:52:21
Not Evan, not Evan Watkins. But like, for example, this guy
1:52:26
I heard you fist. Thought Evan Watkins in a
1:52:29
parking lot. That's what I heard.
1:52:31
What? Nah.
1:52:32
Nah, Evan, I said. I.
1:52:33
Heard you fist, thought Evan Watkins in the parking.
1:52:36
No, no, no, no, no. No.
1:52:37
Jeremy. Evan's my God.
1:52:40
Evan's my God. But like I just got into it.
1:52:42
A few guys for other sites and I would say y'all y'all are so
1:52:47
biased. Like for example, one year.
1:52:50
I don't know if y'all remember this.
1:52:51
Oscar Smith had Josh Wett. JC Coleman.
1:52:54
Yes, Sir. Andrew Brown.
1:52:56
Andrew Brown. They.
1:52:58
Had another guy that. Went, he went to Tech.
1:53:01
He's a four-star receiver, right.
1:53:03
He ended up not playing long. They played Centerville in the
1:53:06
state championship at UVA. Centerville smoked them right
1:53:10
the whole year. Centerville was the Mornington
1:53:11
State for most of the year and I got into it with my guy that
1:53:15
runs the the, the the Cavs corner.
1:53:18
Brad and I said why did y'all not cover any Northern Virginia,
1:53:23
especially Centerville? I said what kind of he's like,
1:53:26
well, we just couldn't get up there.
1:53:27
I said y'all y'all kill me, but y'all can't get to certain
1:53:29
schools but y'all have y'all find a way.
1:53:31
We're getting a a lot of coverage to schools that are
1:53:35
going to give y'all a lot of bump.
1:53:37
So for example I have nothing against Oscar Smith.
1:53:39
Oscar Smith, One of the best programs in state year in a year
1:53:41
out, they going to give you. They will give you buzz, though,
1:53:44
but they're going to give you a buzz.
1:53:45
Because they had Andrew Brown, Josh Sweat, JC Coleman, Jason
1:53:48
Coleman, Shout to my brother. But like if if you're going to
1:53:52
be in this business, be fair, be non bias.
1:53:56
That's I'm a 757 guy, but I'm not biased against the 8O47-O3
1:54:01
or even Southwest Virginia. That's my own thing.
1:54:03
And so, Dwight. You're you're you're saying
1:54:07
basically that in some ways the way these rankings work, and for
1:54:11
one thing, having only five stars seems a little
1:54:13
inappropriate. It like it seems you're a three
1:54:16
or a four that there's variation exactly.
1:54:19
But that's besides the point. They base a lot of this off the
1:54:23
committable offers. It's not just offers, it's
1:54:26
committable offers. So that way when you accept that
1:54:29
offer from Georgia or whatever it may be, they'll bump you.
1:54:33
So they're basing their ratings off of other people's work.
1:54:37
And so if you, if you want to do that, that's fine to base it off
1:54:42
someone else's work. But you got to be upfront about
1:54:44
that, that we're transparent. We're moving these kids up and
1:54:46
down because of where they're getting offers that we know are
1:54:48
committable and they're doing it.
1:54:50
But that's not what they say. They say this is our ranking,
1:54:53
and when they get more NFL draft picks right out of their top
1:54:56
247, they take credit. But you're basing those rankings
1:54:59
off of the committable offers, which means you're using the
1:55:02
coaches evaluations for a school like, but also at that point.
1:55:06
But go ahead. Go ahead, Jeremy.
1:55:09
It's a little. Too personal?
1:55:12
Yes, it and it's. Subjective to to every school
1:55:15
and their needs and the way they evaluate.
1:55:17
For Virginia Tech, it's going to be about whether we hit with Pry
1:55:22
and his staff. If we believe that their
1:55:24
evaluations are correct, we're in a position where none of our
1:55:27
guys, because of the way this system works, it's always going.
1:55:31
To be. More challenging for us to get
1:55:33
the 8 four stars, the 9, four stars in a class, because
1:55:38
unfortunately Keelan Adams is going to commit and he's going
1:55:41
to drop and this guy's going to commit and he's going to drop.
1:55:44
Sure. So.
1:55:45
Here's the thing. And.
1:55:46
This is my issue and I hate saying this, but I'm I'll always
1:55:49
keep it honest, especially when I jump on this joint with y'all.
1:55:52
The issue I have. Just because I play football
1:55:55
does not mean I know everything and I know how to evaluate
1:55:57
talent. Doesn't mean I can coach.
1:55:59
You guys have just as much as insight that I do.
1:56:02
However, my issue is some of those guys, many of those guys
1:56:07
that are covering these these these little websites and and
1:56:10
these different like recruiting sites, they don't have the
1:56:14
insight or wherewithal to understand how you should
1:56:17
evaluate. So for example a couple years
1:56:20
ago I I was doing the Kyle Bailey Show before he started
1:56:22
covering the Panthers and the Hornets and he used to have the
1:56:25
show in in Blacksburg and I I. Jumped on with.
1:56:28
Kyle, Kyle. Kyle's my one of my closest
1:56:30
friends. I jumped on with Kyle and I
1:56:31
talked about a lineman, a tech guy who I like.
1:56:34
Based on the film. I immediately got a text.
1:56:37
I'm not going to say the guy's name but he worked for Rivals
1:56:40
and he was like really Victoria really he has offers from
1:56:43
Bowling Green, JMU blah blah blah and I said but yet y'all
1:56:48
hype. Another guy who is a four-star
1:56:52
who I seen get work every time I saw him play in the camp and and
1:56:56
and the thing about this is that y'all looking at he got big 10
1:56:59
off us. I said if you look at the where
1:57:01
he plays in the Midwest he's playing against lineman the size
1:57:04
of my 13 year old daughter. He's not really against dogs.
1:57:08
So. When he gets to cut and.
1:57:10
Showing up. I was right again.
1:57:11
My point being some of these guys, many of these guys get
1:57:14
these jobs because they're fanboys.
1:57:17
They don't know how to evaluate. And this is what I think and
1:57:19
this. I'm going to stand on this right
1:57:21
quick. That's what I think Brendan Hill
1:57:23
was trying to say, but I think he's so outspoken.
1:57:26
Some fans, tech fans, got mad. I know what you're.
1:57:30
About to say I'm saying tech. Does not need five and four
1:57:33
stars, he said. Many of these guys are labeled 5
1:57:36
and four stars. Aren't the dogs Y'all think they
1:57:38
are. They're not.
1:57:41
They're not. You know what I'm saying?
1:57:44
Yeah, I'm a trust a guy. Like when?
1:57:46
When B Hill. Said stars don't matter.
1:57:48
It wasn't that stars. Don't matter, you.
1:57:51
You don't need to get the best players on campus.
1:57:53
It's that you need to look beyond just what the stars say,
1:57:57
and you especially. Need to look beyond what the
1:57:59
folks say when you're at Virginia Tech.
1:58:01
Like I I go ahead Dan, I feel like a lot.
1:58:04
Of these there's that watching because I'm he's a Texas kid.
1:58:07
For an example, Cam Ward. His high school was very run
1:58:12
dominant I believe. So he didn't have the numbers.
1:58:14
He ended up at Incarn Ward. This man is nasty preaching wing
1:58:18
team. Go.
1:58:20
Ahead preaching. He preaching.
1:58:21
Damn. That's current kid.
1:58:22
That's right. Yeah.
1:58:26
Cam Ward is Karen. 'S cousin.
1:58:27
They ran the wing T Yeah, no shit.
1:58:32
Who sent all? Black people over.
1:58:40
There. Full circle, full circle.
1:58:43
Where's? He.
1:58:43
Going. Where's Cam Ward going to end
1:58:45
up? Is it going to be FSU?
1:58:46
Is it going to be Miami? It's.
1:58:50
Going to be somebody we. Play.
1:58:54
I need him out of the AC. I need him out of the ACC, so.
1:58:59
You know why you want him? The ACC It's going.
1:59:03
To be. December next year, Charlotte,
1:59:06
all this truth right here ain't going to be there because we're
1:59:09
going to stay in Robbie's house for the night, drive down for 90
1:59:12
minutes. Now we we we going to be, we
1:59:13
going to be in the stands next to each other talking about
1:59:16
this. That's what we fucking adult.
1:59:18
You damn. But I I'll give but but yeah.
1:59:20
I'll, I'll give Y'all. Go ahead.
1:59:21
Go ahead. I'll be quiet.
1:59:22
Go ahead, Chris. Go ahead, Chris.
1:59:24
No, no. But what y'all?
1:59:25
Was saying about and and what and Dwight was saying about what
1:59:29
they what they say. Is that the only reason?
1:59:31
He never got his fifth star beforehand and and I had one of
1:59:35
the writers from 2470 says. Well, he doesn't run track.
1:59:38
And Keith was like, why do I need to run track?
1:59:42
No one has ever caught me from Watch the Tape.
1:59:45
Yeah. My tape, he said.
1:59:47
My tape stands alone that that, that, that.
1:59:51
I've never been walked down from behind.
1:59:52
And I work on explosiveness all the time to get bigger, faster
1:59:56
and stronger. People don't talk about.
1:59:58
Game speed versus like raw speed.
2:00:00
Don't run track. People don't talk about that.
2:00:01
Enough game speed is a different animal.
2:00:05
It is but. But also I mean Kevin can also
2:00:08
understand listen man them dudes, those dudes and Dwight
2:00:13
back in the day they didn't had this.
2:00:15
I mean that that kid, he looks at me, he gets pissed at me when
2:00:18
I'm like, yo, this your schedule for the week?
2:00:20
And he looking at me like, yo, hey man, I got I don't want to
2:00:24
go to. Training three times.
2:00:25
This week, man, I don't want to go.
2:00:27
Do this. I I physically hurt.
2:00:30
You know Kevin you you got Karen in the back of the car.
2:00:33
He's just laying in the back of the car like somebody.
2:00:35
It is, it's. Funny and and we talked to her.
2:00:38
We do these character talks and each coach.
2:00:41
Has a. Person you know you have respect
2:00:43
me you got to talk about. So this is right after Karen.
2:00:48
'S senior year to. Spring and I I'm coming out of
2:00:52
basketball and they're like, hey, you got to talk today like
2:00:55
5 minutes. I'm going to go talk to the
2:00:56
team. I don't know what to talk about.
2:00:57
So I was like, look, I think a lot of you kids are so hype on
2:01:03
getting recruited and not the work that goes into it.
2:01:07
Like you want the pictures, you want the the notoriety, but you
2:01:13
don't understand what goes behind it.
2:01:15
And I said I can just tell you from my house that year, that
2:01:21
was the COVID year, so. We lose to Katie.
2:01:25
Which is one of the premier programs in Houston, in Texas.
2:01:29
So we lose the KD on a Saturday afternoon.
2:01:33
Karen's already graduated. He's headed to Baylor.
2:01:37
He's one of the lead 11 finals, top 11 in the country.
2:01:42
And. Sunday.
2:01:44
Morning. I wake up to the ring on my
2:01:47
phone and he's leaving on this first workout.
2:01:51
I I don't know the. Last time I had to tell Karen to
2:01:53
work out. Like he's going to.
2:01:56
Go do that on his own, like, like.
2:01:59
When he went to. When he went off to school at
2:02:02
17, the first thing I was like, look, I don't worry about you on
2:02:07
the field. I don't worry about you working
2:02:09
out. All that is what you do when I
2:02:13
told him at 17 was you got to fall in love with the film and
2:02:17
the process of learning the position because you've gotten
2:02:21
away with some stuff in high school.
2:02:24
Now you got to learn how to take it and learn the classroom part
2:02:27
of the offensive, the quarterback being a quarterback.
2:02:31
I don't worry about the other stuff.
2:02:33
That stuff will take care of itself.
2:02:35
So I want. These.
2:02:37
Kids and I I'm a recruiting coordinator and I try to tell
2:02:40
these kids like don't get caught up in going to take these photos
2:02:43
and these pictures and do all this stuff and what these write
2:02:46
ups say I. And I you.
2:02:48
Know y'all probably see me on Twitter.
2:02:50
I just say, hey, chop wood, yeah.
2:02:53
OK. Yeah, I mean, if you get down
2:02:55
chop wood. Like, we're not even worried
2:02:57
about it. Go to work.
2:02:58
Head down, chop wood let's. Put put the.
2:03:01
Do what you do. If you do what you do ours, We
2:03:04
go to Elite. 11 and that's the COVID year.
2:03:07
So we had to do like a video, like it wasn't a camp.
2:03:11
So we had to video him running a 40.
2:03:13
We had to take pictures of his hands and all that stuff and he
2:03:17
gets the call that. He made it so.
2:03:20
We go to Tennessee. And that.
2:03:23
Year. The.
2:03:24
The. Family.
2:03:25
Could stay in the room with the kid.
2:03:28
Well, I got a hotel in. A different hotel.
2:03:30
I got a room in a different hotel because I want him to
2:03:32
focus on the competition. I have.
2:03:35
AI have a conversation, It's funny, Y'all, said Demetrius.
2:03:38
Dave, I have a conversation with his dad and his dad's like, oh,
2:03:41
I say, hey, we, you know, we're going to go back to our hotels
2:03:45
and he was like, you're not staying with him.
2:03:47
I was like, no, he's like, he's like I said now I want him to
2:03:50
focus on his competition. I don't want him, you know, us
2:03:53
having the. TV.
2:03:54
On or, you know fighting with his sister or whatever.
2:03:57
And he's like, they already know that the 11 or you can tell your
2:04:00
kid whatever you want to tell. At the end of that first.
2:04:04
Day the list comes out, Karen's like dad.
2:04:07
They got, they got me #5, I said.
2:04:09
All them fucked up. Right, right.
2:04:13
Right. Right.
2:04:18
Listen, man. I want to say.
2:04:21
I want to say something right quick.
2:04:22
Y'all. So when you when you hear
2:04:25
stories like that of of men being involved with their kids,
2:04:30
I don't know how many people are involved like with sports, if
2:04:35
you're just fans, you have to listen that stuff like that to
2:04:39
understand recruiting. Because anytime I talk to Y'all
2:04:42
about recruiting, anytime I'm on Twitter, I talk to y'all as a
2:04:45
fan, but I also talk to y'all as a dad of a kid that is involved
2:04:48
in sports. My son is 13.
2:04:51
He's never played football like where we are.
2:04:54
You they, they ban football. When you're small, it's you.
2:04:57
You play flag football until you get to a certain age.
2:05:00
He's in 8th grade this year and he made all city as a wide
2:05:04
receiver. He wanted to be a quarterback.
2:05:06
He's left-handed. He's tall.
2:05:08
He wanted to be a quarterback. They put him at wide receiver.
2:05:11
For a kid that can't throw, he just knows how to go up and get
2:05:14
the ball. Now I told him, and I'm just,
2:05:17
I'm I'm saying this for a reason.
2:05:19
I told him because everybody tells me that I'm too hard on my
2:05:22
son because I told him, look, you you, you need to fall in
2:05:27
love with the journey. You keep thinking about the the,
2:05:30
the, the glory. Of it You want to talk to me?
2:05:35
About what the shoes look like that you going to wear.
2:05:38
You want to talk to me about your your wristband?
2:05:40
You got to fall in love with that journey to get there.
2:05:43
And I told him, I said excuse my language.
2:05:46
You going to get stuff just because you're my girl?
2:05:49
I'm. 6/2. I'm 6, two £350, you going to
2:05:54
have a certain body because that's what your all of our
2:05:57
families big. You going to be tall, you going
2:05:59
to be strong, you know what I'm saying?
2:06:00
You going to have a little bit of athleticism.
2:06:02
You going to get that just because of your genetics, but to
2:06:06
go to the? Go to the next level.
2:06:10
And how to work. So when I hear these, when I
2:06:12
hear the white talk about his son, I talk, I hear Chris, I
2:06:16
hear Kevin. When y'all ask about recruiting,
2:06:19
when we own these spaces or when we on Twitter and people talk
2:06:22
about recruiting or how do we do this and man listen, when you
2:06:25
got men that's involved with their kids, that recruiting shit
2:06:29
is totally different because they know something that she's
2:06:32
not going to get into. So I'm glad Kevin spoke on that
2:06:40
and and tell you right I coached my son in football and
2:06:42
basketball when he was elementary and middle school,
2:06:45
aged right around the town, he got the high school, he kind of
2:06:48
he stopped playing football. That's what was his better sport
2:06:50
at the time. But he leans the basketball.
2:06:52
He leans the basketball he grew. 7 inches.
2:06:54
So he's 6-7 and then he. But when he was younger, he did
2:06:57
football, basketball on track. And being related to me, Mike
2:07:01
and Marcus, it was, you know, football came natural.
2:07:04
But Long story short, to Kevin's point and to your point tally
2:07:09
about the fatherhood and the and the and the male guidance of
2:07:13
being a dad. It's tricky.
2:07:15
And This is why it's different. That's why I have great insight
2:07:17
with recruiting. So, for example, my son plays
2:07:20
basketball, so most of us in our family are football players.
2:07:24
So Isaiah is killing it on the court.
2:07:26
So the last two years he's heard from American JMU, Mount Saint
2:07:31
Mary's, Boston College, a slew of HBCUS, some D2 S He's heard
2:07:37
from a ton of schools. And because I've been through
2:07:42
the process, he has a good head on his shoulders.
2:07:44
He's humble, but he's got a lot of dog in him.
2:07:47
He's got a lot of confidence, but it's hard because of social
2:07:50
media where he sees a guy where last year against Largo Cam
2:07:55
Ward, who's one of the best players in the DMV, Isaiah
2:07:57
fouled him out in overtime and got MVP of the game.
2:08:00
This was on NBC Regional, so all of East Coast he got MVP.
2:08:05
Then he also had other games where he dropped 20.
2:08:07
They lost in the States right? That summer he played the last
2:08:10
two years on DC Premier, which is the Under Armour circuit.
2:08:14
With that being said, he was getting contacted by Georgia
2:08:17
Southern, tons of schools, but for every school that reached
2:08:21
out, then after a month they would disappear.
2:08:24
They would take somebody out the portal.
2:08:25
The portal and the nil, which I'm in favor of, has really hurt
2:08:30
kids high school. Like if my if my son had played
2:08:34
before the portal, he would have 15 offers by now.
2:08:37
Now here's the here's the catch. You have to be involved because
2:08:42
his mother and I, we're on him and we keep him locked in.
2:08:45
He's got the right mindset because since he was seven years
2:08:47
old, he's been around DeAngelo Hall, Tyrod Taylor, Michael
2:08:50
Vick, the Sean Jackson, Roddy White he's going to take.
2:08:55
So he. Understands it's a he he loves
2:08:58
the game. I don't have to wake him up to
2:08:59
get shots up. He he watches film He he knows
2:09:03
it's a grind. He'll understand when the lights
2:09:05
are on. So for example, the other night,
2:09:08
Tuesday night, they played South Lakes with the top two teams in
2:09:11
Division Six and he had 17-7 assists, 6 boys, 2 steals, 2
2:09:17
blocks against Jordan Scott. Jordan Scott had 28.
2:09:21
However, Jordan Scott has an offer from Maryland and 15 other
2:09:25
Power Five schools including Michigan State and Florida
2:09:27
State. My son, that dunk you saw in the
2:09:30
lanes when he crossed them up, he dunked on it after that game.
2:09:35
By the time. Midnight came around.
2:09:37
He had gained 30 new followers between D1 and D2 Schools,
2:09:41
Maryland, Coastal Carolina, a bunch of mid majors, some some
2:09:45
Big 10 schools. And at the end of the day, the
2:09:49
reason why the head coach from South Lakes that we beat sent
2:09:54
out a blast to these college coaches.
2:09:55
Y'all need to get on Isaiah vet. Now here's the catch.
2:09:59
Here's the catch. A lot of people hit him up,
2:10:02
called him. So they're going to offer him,
2:10:04
we're going to be by your school.
2:10:06
They had practice day, nobody showed up.
2:10:08
Now it's the holidays. They may be there in January.
2:10:11
But The thing is, you have to have a father or you have to
2:10:14
have somebody that has the rationale in their ear.
2:10:18
Because Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, friends,
2:10:22
trainers, podcasters, they're always evaluating these kids and
2:10:27
saying what they think. And the kids have to have
2:10:30
somebody in their household in their ear constantly.
2:10:33
Or you going to have what you see with these kids going to UNC
2:10:37
going here going here going here going here and then by the time
2:10:41
they they don't they don't have no career.
2:10:43
You know what I'm saying? And and I just wanted to I know
2:10:45
I didn't want to make it about me and my son.
2:10:47
But Tally. Tally no that's for her.
2:10:50
That's good. Tally man.
2:10:51
That's why we got you here. Your your.
2:10:53
Your kitties. Nice.
2:10:56
And I'm a basketball. Guy, you're kitties.
2:10:58
Can I say something while? We talking about I'm not a
2:11:00
father but also so I know Dwight that that tech that tech they
2:11:04
called on your on your kid for pulling up on Loren was weak but
2:11:08
it. Was it?
2:11:13
Was we It? Was we but.
2:11:16
What I was going to say was I only played through high school.
2:11:20
I wasn't a world beater or nothing.
2:11:22
My dad and I, we have a great relationship now.
2:11:24
From age 6 to 26 we were not so good.
2:11:27
I saw him like 4 * a year family reunion.
2:11:33
Me and you were right, right in the same boat, so he would
2:11:35
always give me. Money.
2:11:36
When he saw me, he got Oh yeah, here's 100, here's 150.
2:11:39
I'd be like, that's cool. But like you never came to a
2:11:42
game. Ever.
2:11:43
All I ever wanted was my dad to come to a game never came and my
2:11:47
mom was there all the time. But the one thing that stuck in
2:11:49
my head was dad was never there. But so I appreciate all you men
2:11:54
on here that have kids and you're actively involved in
2:11:56
their sporting lives and Dan is preaching.
2:12:01
Right now because. Because I don't know, I don't
2:12:04
know if y'all know, but Siegler had a very similar similar
2:12:07
experience. My dad was definitely involved,
2:12:11
but not not someone that I saw very often.
2:12:14
He lived in Richmond. I I grew up in Halifax County.
2:12:19
I saw I saw my dad at a game once or twice a year.
2:12:22
So shout out to Chris. Shout out to Kevin for being
2:12:26
there. Shout out to Tally for being the
2:12:29
dad that he is. Shout out to Curtis for being
2:12:32
the dad that he is. We'd be, We'd be.
2:12:34
Nas down here, you know what I'm saying?
2:12:38
I'm saying there's a lot of love here and I just want to know the
2:12:42
basketball that are doing right now everybody's crazy.
2:12:46
I'm. I'm.
2:12:46
Going to switch gears here in a minute, but I did want to say
2:12:48
this just about like I said, talking about my son.
2:12:53
My son has never played travel basketball.
2:12:55
He's been a a baseball player, tall, left-hander, that play,
2:13:00
that, that play. Hey.
2:13:13
You know what man, it's crazy because like I said, my son man
2:13:16
like he was, he was doing his thing in baseball like rec
2:13:19
league stuff and a couple of parents is like he's too good to
2:13:22
play with these kids. Y'all got he need to go and get
2:13:25
some work and baseball is a lot of money.
2:13:27
You know it is a lot of money that we've had to pay.
2:13:30
But if that's going to get him to the next level and we can get
2:13:33
him a college, get him into college without paying for it,
2:13:36
that's what I'm searching for. But I I say that for a reason.
2:13:39
He's a baseball kid but he's he plays every sport now and this
2:13:44
year in basketball you know he's he's he's staying out a little
2:13:47
bit. He's always been a little bit
2:13:48
chunk he's staying out a little bit.
2:13:50
You know, he's got taller. He's about 6 foot now and he
2:13:54
plays every position on, yeah, he's playing every position on
2:13:57
the court. And Huntsville, where we live,
2:14:00
is a big basketball city. There's a lot of basketball
2:14:04
players that's come from here and a lot of these kids start
2:14:07
getting ranked. In the 7th grade.
2:14:10
Like we got 8th graders and 7th graders.
2:14:13
We've got 7th graders and 8th graders that's ranked and Duncan
2:14:16
and and they try that that dads are positioning to move up to
2:14:20
varsity all type of stuff. So we played we played a school
2:14:23
here that one day and my son, my son's school that he goes to,
2:14:27
there's not a basketball school. You know the the main reason is
2:14:30
the high school that they go to. The middle schools are broke up
2:14:33
into about four different middle schools.
2:14:35
So they got a couple of athletes at every middle school, blah,
2:14:37
blah, blah. So the team that my son is on is
2:14:40
not very good. And I told him before that game,
2:14:43
I said, listen, I always send him some little devotional and
2:14:46
he used to get mad at me because he would think that I'm, I'm
2:14:50
trying to coach him. I'm trying to make him do
2:14:52
something. But now he craves it.
2:14:55
He said, hey man, you didn't send me.
2:14:56
He said you didn't send me nothing.
2:14:58
You ain't send me nothing. You got to send me something.
2:14:59
So he's playing the school. They got two kids that are
2:15:02
ranked in in the state on that team.
2:15:05
One little boy, he he's very good.
2:15:07
He can already dunk. He can do a lot of stuff with
2:15:09
the ball. And I told my son, I said, let
2:15:11
me tell you something. I said you can go play this,
2:15:13
these kids and you going to lose.
2:15:15
They got 20 people on their team and y'all got six.
2:15:18
You're going to lose, I said. But you as a person can't lose.
2:15:22
Go bust, they. Ass, I said.
2:15:24
I said you should be looking at that little boy and whatever he
2:15:27
scored, you should score. I said Don't listen to your
2:15:30
coach. If he tell you to pass the ball
2:15:32
and that little boy score, you fucking score.
2:15:34
I said you bust his ass all game.
2:15:36
That's what I want you to do. And that little boy scored, I
2:15:38
think 13, he scored 13 and you may have had six rebounds.
2:15:42
My son had 15 and 10 and they coaches came to me after the
2:15:46
game and said, man, you got a dog on your hands.
2:15:48
I said y'all been paying for this.
2:15:50
This is what we do. This is what we built.
2:15:53
I bring all that up to say the players that we're getting into
2:15:56
this program are built like that.
2:15:58
They got men that's behind them. That's showing them that's what
2:16:01
we need and that's the kind of players you want.
2:16:04
But I want to switch gears a little bit because we've been
2:16:06
talking about rankings and players in the class for a
2:16:09
little bit. I just want to go ahead.
2:16:12
Do I let y'all get get to that? And I can't wait to hear that.
2:16:14
I just want to add one last point.
2:16:16
What coach Kevin was talking about, why his son Kyron and
2:16:20
then other players like that, I think the average fan doesn't
2:16:25
realize I'm not talking about even back in the 90s when I
2:16:28
play. I'm talking about in general.
2:16:30
And I don't think the average fan, parent or even player in
2:16:35
high school, whether it be football or basketball, really
2:16:38
understands the grind of playing and being a collegiate athlete.
2:16:43
Now I don't think like I see all that stuff on Twitter and I
2:16:46
don't think fans understand what what what Kevin meant about
2:16:50
being in love with the game. Like y'all know who my cousin is
2:16:53
right? And he everything came natural
2:16:56
to him. But when he fell in love with
2:16:58
the game, even though he was lights out in Atlanta, you saw
2:17:01
what he did in Philly being a more complete quarterback
2:17:04
because he began to fall in love with the game and plus God gave
2:17:08
him a second chance. I see a lot of guys I don't
2:17:11
judge kids jumping the portal because sometimes it's about
2:17:13
being close to home. You got a family member sick or
2:17:16
you in the position coach don't vibe or they just got too many
2:17:19
guys at your position. I don't have a problem with it,
2:17:22
but I do think there's something to be said about what Tally and
2:17:26
Kevin said about like, I sent my son stuff.
2:17:29
I said, hey man, you need to pray.
2:17:30
Make sure you talk to God. Thank God for that great game.
2:17:33
Make sure you stay humble. I don't mind you talking trash,
2:17:37
but but stay locked in, you know, thank this person.
2:17:40
Go talk to your coach. Like, be humble.
2:17:42
But because when I got the text and this is going to sound
2:17:46
funny, I joke about it. But I'm being dead serious.
2:17:49
I'm from Newport News in Hampton, VA, so I knew I
2:17:52
experienced a lot of childhood trauma.
2:17:54
So for me it was like, I'm a graduate tech with some degrees
2:17:58
and I'm going to leave here with no charges and no children, all
2:18:01
right? But let me say this.
2:18:09
Let me see, but let me say this it.
2:18:12
Was I? It was not easy all the time at
2:18:15
Tech. People don't realize this.
2:18:16
I may sit on your show, Curtis, but I almost transferred from
2:18:20
Tech my red sophomore year and I'm playing.
2:18:23
I'm in the rotation. But I felt I should be starting.
2:18:25
You know why I felt I should be starting?
2:18:27
Because I was good. But the people back home in
2:18:31
Newport News and Hampton kept saying, man dawg, man, you
2:18:35
should be starting, bro, they tripping.
2:18:37
And I almost, my dumb ass, almost transferred to Hampton
2:18:40
University because everybody was doing it.
2:18:43
Now here's the point to Tally 1996.
2:18:46
This is tally. And Kevin's point, I call home.
2:18:51
My dad's a pastor 50 something years.
2:18:53
Been preaching. He says to me, he said, the hell
2:18:57
are you talking about? You coming back home to go to
2:18:59
Hampton. You had Tech.
2:19:00
You, you're lettering. You're playing against Rutgers
2:19:03
and Boston College and Syracuse. You're playing, you going, you
2:19:06
got two years left. What do you, why you want to
2:19:08
come home? And again, that's the part about
2:19:11
having if it's not a dad or father figure.
2:19:14
And I think sometimes these kids miss out because I'm telling you
2:19:17
right now, that's why I love Signing Day.
2:19:20
But some of these kids are going to get here at Tech or Maryland
2:19:23
or Norfolk State or Boston College or Syracuse, whatever,
2:19:27
and they're like, damn, I got to get up at what time I got up at
2:19:31
what time I got. And I don't think people
2:19:35
understand like, it is a business.
2:19:37
It's a business in high school now.
2:19:40
So I just. Put my texts.
2:19:42
On that man you know and and and.
2:19:45
And like you, man. Y'all y'all have killed it.
2:19:48
I can't add nothing to it, man. I I just wanted to tell y'all
2:19:52
through this whole process, you know the guys I've reached out,
2:19:54
I've talked to, you know, I don't, I don't reach out to you
2:19:57
like telling me and you just connected and and stuff, man.
2:20:00
I just appreciate y'all man because I know through this
2:20:04
whole process, you know, I've been able to kind of reach out
2:20:07
to guys and say hey, I know I'm doing the right thing.
2:20:11
You know it it was just like like 3-4 months was like 3
2:20:16
months ago. Me, me, me and Keelan was
2:20:19
sitting here. I was like, hey man, you know,
2:20:21
I've been watching you, man. And like, you're really, really
2:20:23
good. And that dude jumped up off the
2:20:26
couch, man, and hugged me and said bring it in, big fella,
2:20:29
bring it in, he said. I've been working my ass off
2:20:31
just to hear you say that. And it kind of threw me because.
2:20:35
I. Was like.
2:20:36
I was like you out here busting everybody ass out here.
2:20:39
I I think, he said. It don't matter what they think.
2:20:43
It matter what you think. So I know Jim.
2:20:48
He just left off here because you know, and probably the baby
2:20:51
walk open needed some milk and his wife was probably about to
2:20:53
be exactly. He got a.
2:20:57
Less than A1. Year old, he he is grinding
2:21:00
every day, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:21:02
Man, I'm going to be honest with you, man.
2:21:03
I'm. I'm a father of five and I say
2:21:06
this to every, every guy. If you got parents, you got
2:21:09
children. You having Adam enjoy the ride
2:21:11
because this thing's afflicted. This thing is absolute every
2:21:15
day, man. I am reminded of that, like I
2:21:17
got a 10 year old and every day I'm like, how the hell do I have
2:21:20
a 10 year old this? Thing is a flicker my.
2:21:23
My daughter, my daughter, graduated from, from, from,
2:21:26
yeah, from Community College the other night.
2:21:28
And I was like, God Dang, man, I remember I was, you know, when
2:21:30
when she had that first, you know, milk, milk, hind and pass
2:21:35
out on me, you know what I'm saying as a baby, man.
2:21:37
And and it is, you know, this thing is a flicker bed and I'm
2:21:40
about to drop this kid off in two weeks, man.
2:21:42
And I'm, you know, my wife's like, don't cry.
2:21:44
I say I'm trying not to, but I'm going to end up crying.
2:21:46
It's going to happen. It's going to happen.
2:21:49
It happens. More than nobody.
2:21:52
Nobody on this show is going to judge you.
2:21:53
For that, because you guys don't have that.
2:21:56
Hey, listen, y'all. Just go and get ready.
2:21:58
I'm crying. Don't even get it out.
2:21:59
Absolutely the. Guy's on I'm.
2:22:02
Going to cry. I have on this show.
2:22:03
I got three kids, Tally got two, Siegler got one over there.
2:22:07
We will ever judge you for anything like that.
2:22:09
And it's it's one of those things, man, you can joke me on
2:22:12
the side. Though oh, I'll joke, I mean.
2:22:14
We'll plan on you, but we'll still do it too.
2:22:15
Don't worry, we'll find you Elaine's.
2:22:18
Hey. If I'm, If I'm.
2:22:19
Being honest, here's a great car.
2:22:21
Go ahead. Hey, Brian.
2:22:24
Put. Up put up the the, the quote
2:22:27
that I think Coach Lewis put up. I want you to do you see?
2:22:31
What do you see? It says don't listen to the
2:22:34
coach shaking my head. Yeah, put that up because I'm
2:22:37
going to go on a rant for a minute, then I'm on.
2:22:39
I'm going to ask Pete a question.
2:22:41
OK. So when I was talking about my
2:22:43
son, you have to understand when I say my son, that's my son,
2:22:49
that's my son. I feed him.
2:22:51
I know what he can do. I know what he can't do.
2:22:54
Some of these coaches that are in middle, We're not talking,
2:22:57
we're not talking about college. Yeah, we're not talking about
2:23:00
college. We're not talking about coaches
2:23:04
that are are raising men. We're talking about a social
2:23:06
science teacher that is getting paid an extra couple of dollars
2:23:11
to coach a basketball team after school.
2:23:13
And if you're coaching in Virginia?
2:23:15
You know what I'm talking about because you're getting maybe
2:23:18
1500 stipend to to coach that sport.
2:23:21
Come on, man, if. That yeah.
2:23:22
When you say, when you say don't tell, don't tell your son not to
2:23:26
listen to the coach. I don't tell him not to listen
2:23:29
to his coaches in that setting in that game that we're talking
2:23:33
about. Yes, I told my son don't listen
2:23:36
to him when he tells you y'all need to hold a ball and only
2:23:40
there's no shot clock. We just going to hold the ball
2:23:42
and try to beat them when you already down 20 points?
2:23:45
No Sir, son, when you get the ball you go score.
2:23:48
Don't listen to him because he don't know what he's talking
2:23:50
about right now. So yes, I did tell him that.
2:23:52
But we going to switch gears a little bit and I want to ask a
2:23:55
question. We'll start with Pete right
2:23:57
here. We'll start with Pete.
2:23:59
Well, I'll start with myself then I'm going to throw it to
2:24:01
peak because we are talking straight of the program.
2:24:06
What's one of the plays from this year, either good or bad,
2:24:10
that kind of gave you, you know, either a great feeling or a bad
2:24:16
feeling about where our team was going?
2:24:18
And I'll tell you mine the play that I.
2:24:22
Kind of looked at this. Year and kind of summed up how I
2:24:24
feel about this team and I said all right we we we in the right
2:24:27
direction. Are we playing Pitt?
2:24:29
And Kyron hits that first touchdown pass, I think the
2:24:32
Felton and he starts walking down the field.
2:24:37
And from what we've heard from what we've heard of Kyron, he he
2:24:40
don't celebrate much. He don't talk a lot of trash.
2:24:43
He was talking shit to every pit player.
2:24:48
That. He had, and I know he was.
2:24:50
I know he was telling them, keep your fucking eyes out of that
2:24:53
backfield because you got to worry about this arm too.
2:24:56
I know that's what he's saying on the way down that field.
2:24:59
That was if I had to sum up this year one play, it would be that
2:25:05
play and not just the play because it's a great play, but
2:25:08
afterwards, like I said, he hit the bow and arrow, then he's
2:25:11
going down the field and he's talking shit and and and what's
2:25:13
crazy to me is I'm thinking, but he got to play against them the
2:25:17
whole game. This is at the beginning of the
2:25:18
game, he. Got to play.
2:25:20
Against the lineman at the beginning of the game and he
2:25:22
talking shit all the way. Give me what you got.
2:25:25
Give me what you got, I'm. Looking at his body language and
2:25:29
I said I know he looking at that lineman and then looking at
2:25:32
them, them cornerbacks and telling them you better keep
2:25:34
your fucking eyes out of that backfield because hey, we going
2:25:37
to add this bitch out on y'all. So that was my play from this
2:25:40
year that I had had to bring up. Pete, what you got for me?
2:25:45
If you remember the. Beginning of the Syracuse game,
2:25:47
there was for one, we were after them all game on defense.
2:25:52
And there was a play where APR kind of did a spin move, got to
2:25:55
the quarterback. I think it was the first play of
2:25:57
the game. It was the 2nd.
2:25:59
Play. It was the 2nd play of the game.
2:26:00
Second play of the game. And that play, I don't think he
2:26:04
got credit for the sack he might have on an intentional
2:26:06
grounding, but it was it was a tone center and I remember
2:26:10
thinking like the defense has been struggling this year, even
2:26:13
against Pitt. How well we played and had the
2:26:15
the play you were just talking about Offensively, we were good.
2:26:19
We gave up some plays in that pick game.
2:26:21
The Syracuse game was pure domination.
2:26:23
And that play just right off the bat to set that tone with that
2:26:27
spin mode, spin move, I was like, I was blown away.
2:26:31
I was there and I saw it from where I was sitting and I was
2:26:33
like, oh, this could be a different kind of night and it
2:26:35
ended up being a different kind of night.
2:26:37
So that's the play I think back to.
2:26:39
That's why Brian. Decided to buy in poker that
2:26:41
night in the basement. He wound up that night it.
2:26:45
Really. Was it?
2:26:46
Was one of those nights like, all right, I I will see how this
2:26:49
plays out. I'm not sure if I will play
2:26:50
tonight and then that happened. I'm like, all right, I'm in
2:26:54
deal. Me in, bitches.
2:26:55
Let's go. All right.
2:26:57
We're going to go to band, man. What play you got?
2:27:01
What's your play for the? Year that just set it off, I'm
2:27:03
going to give you. A2 Parter The part that I knew
2:27:07
it was going to be different was the last drive of the Purdue
2:27:11
game. Even though we lost, Kyron came
2:27:13
in. You knew he had the vision, he's
2:27:16
making plays. It was very clear quarterback
2:27:19
one was #1 Kyron Jones the then Fast forward UVA game.
2:27:28
Anthony Calandra talking all that shit during the week.
2:27:31
Remember 2019 bowl game. Lynn Bowden junior talked all
2:27:34
that shit. Took our lunch money, Took our
2:27:36
lunch money come UVA game. Anthony Calandra talking about
2:27:40
all they going to be talking about this.
2:27:42
Well yeah, they were talking about this, buddy. 55 Reasons
2:27:44
Why You should Shut the fuck up. Like, you know, Like, you know.
2:27:47
Like they? Took that personally.
2:27:49
APRAPR was getting personal fouls like Kyron, Drones was
2:27:53
running it up like special tootin train was full steam
2:27:58
ahead. Like we took that personally and
2:28:00
we said Nah, we're Virginia Tech, you're not going to talk
2:28:02
about us like that. And that's when I knew Virginia
2:28:04
Tech was back. Or on the way to be back all.
2:28:09
Right, Robbie, what you got? Robbie Rowdy Rowdy What?
2:28:11
You got? This year, I don't know if I
2:28:14
have. Virginia Tech.
2:28:15
I don't know if I'd go. To.
2:28:16
One play more than I remember, a particular kick return where
2:28:23
they take back and score and then.
2:28:25
Afterwards. They're talking to the young man
2:28:27
about, you know, about how he did something so amazing and
2:28:31
returning that. Oh no, we lost.
2:28:40
Oh. Even bus football, man.
2:28:42
Don't even bus. Is he?
2:28:50
Oh man, come on. Man, there you.
2:28:53
Go the minute. That young.
2:28:54
Man, the minute that young man turns around and says OK, there
2:28:57
you go. There was 10 other.
2:28:59
People on that field that made that thing work.
2:29:01
That was when I knew it was different.
2:29:03
That was that play that I knew. I didn't know it immediately,
2:29:07
but you find out afterwards, that's where you know
2:29:10
everything's going, right? That's where things have
2:29:12
changed. There we go.
2:29:19
Eleven guys. Playing for, playing for
2:29:20
something else. That's what it's all about,
2:29:23
Dwight. This year, man.
2:29:25
Playing. Play that.
2:29:27
Said. I mean, we went six and six.
2:29:29
It ain't great. Nah.
2:29:31
But where? We were.
2:29:32
And where we built back up to and where we are in recruiting,
2:29:36
it's trajectory right I, I've and three.
2:29:38
Last. Eight Game, I say.
2:29:39
The Colts. That's right, five.
2:29:41
And three last eight. That's right, last 8.
2:29:43
Game. I think for me, I've been saying
2:29:45
this for years, Virginia Tech and most college football, it's
2:29:49
it's a combination of things. And the first thing I would say
2:29:52
when drones became the starter, I felt like early on, and I
2:29:56
understand why Pride was doing it, because there's seasons when
2:29:58
you sometimes need your backup quarterback or even games where
2:30:02
somebody's helmet comes off cramping, whatever or, you know
2:30:06
a shoulder injury or something. So I wasn't like like dismissed
2:30:09
Wells. But when I I kept saying and Don
2:30:12
V and Tally's Twitter space is that when pride names Drones are
2:30:17
starter and it becomes his team. Watch how he takes off and I.
2:30:21
Feel. Like if you look at UVA and
2:30:24
other programs in the ACC, when you look at how long UVA has
2:30:28
really been trying to rebuild and get back to the Marcus
2:30:32
Hagen's or Aaron Brooks days, you think about those two names
2:30:35
I just named, right? That's how long I would even
2:30:38
throw and grow. The one thing I told my boy Mon
2:30:41
hawk and some of my UVA guys is y'all have not really had a
2:30:44
quarterback to build around. And after we lost Gerard Evans,
2:30:49
I kept saying, yeah, we got nice quarterbacks, we need a
2:30:52
quarterback and finally we have drones.
2:30:54
Who my cousin and I think he is special.
2:30:57
I've told him that I've special. Now here's the other thing I
2:31:01
noticed to to Tally's question. The culture and the mindset at
2:31:07
home is very reminiscent of what tech used to be.
2:31:11
No more did you see at home where we were winning 20 to 17
2:31:15
and then we get a late field going, We hold on with a
2:31:17
defensive stand. Pride was running it up on
2:31:21
people. They were throwing the ball 20
2:31:23
when they were up 2128 points. They were doing onside kicks,
2:31:27
fake punts, trick plays. And I felt like there was a
2:31:32
culture and a mindset, you know, that showed that OK, they're
2:31:35
really trying to build something.
2:31:36
And then finally, the last point I think to tell this thing is
2:31:41
the fact that yeah, kids are leaving, but those kids should
2:31:45
be leaving. The kids all coming back.
2:31:48
The coach is starting to take shape where like Clemson, I said
2:31:52
this on my part this week. Like Clemson, when they ran the
2:31:55
ACC for years, Dabble was a master at keeping some of his
2:31:59
future pros and even kids. That could have left the
2:32:02
graduation to come back for one or two more years where you saw
2:32:06
Tuten. Tuten.
2:32:07
And everybody and and Ali and all those guys are coming back.
2:32:11
So now you starting to see guys that want to be in Blacksburg,
2:32:15
which means they're having fun and they feel like there's
2:32:17
something that they can run it back with.
2:32:19
So the coaches there, the quarterbacks there again.
2:32:22
I said this when I did the broadcast.
2:32:24
I did the ESPN3 broadcast in 2013 and we have Motley at
2:32:28
quarterback and we had the white kid Mark.
2:32:33
Now what's his name? The 1.
2:32:35
Grant, not Grant. The other one, Michael Brewer.
2:32:37
Michael Brewer and I thought Brewer was good but I felt like
2:32:42
we needed a dual threat quarterback.
2:32:43
I just feel like, other than drunken Miller, Will Ferrell.
2:32:46
And we we. Do better with.
2:32:48
With dual threats we do better with dual.
2:32:49
Look at the history of Virginia Tech if you want to do.
2:32:52
If you want to do the history historically, Virginia Tech will
2:32:55
hit the game with dual threat quarterbacks 93.
2:32:58
Yeah, Maurice. De Chazo.
2:32:59
Chazo. Alcar, Maurice and Marcus
2:33:02
Marisa, Yeah, the one thing that got me on the recruiting visit.
2:33:13
And. You know, I'm not saying it
2:33:15
because you know for Ray stuff, but no, I don't know another
2:33:20
school that when you. Go in the.
2:33:22
Quarterback room. That's got 3 black quarterbacks
2:33:24
on the wall, man. Don't, don't.
2:33:28
When I walked in, I was like. They got Vic, Randall and Taylor
2:33:33
and. You know.
2:33:41
Me and Me and B Ray. Got a close connection so you
2:33:43
know ran yeah yeah and I'm telling let me I'm gonna put the
2:33:47
other child I'm gonna bring it in.
2:33:48
I'm gonna got to wrangle all y'all in cause y'all 'cause.
2:33:51
Chris, Kevin, Y'all hold on between.
2:33:53
I'm gonna tell you between that and.
2:33:55
Beamer sending us a video. And.
2:34:04
Their. Goal.
2:34:10
On our visit. We're on at 5:00 AM and we're
2:34:13
going and it's funny, 'cause I know y'all probably don't know
2:34:16
the inside joke. I don't know.
2:34:17
We get a deer going to Roanoke. Oh, job, yeah.
2:34:21
That don't surprise me. But that don't surprise me.
2:34:24
Yeah, so we get a. Deer on the exit but.
2:34:27
When? They got in the car, They're
2:34:29
like, hey, you got a video. What Y'all have seen and Frank
2:34:33
Beamer sent a video and my wife's like, who is that?
2:34:36
I was like, because I'm from Texas.
2:34:38
You're like, hey, it's like RC Slocum.
2:34:41
It's like that's like, you know Bobby Bowden, that's up there
2:34:45
for you. That's huge.
2:34:46
Yeah, he he sent a video, you know, and and Dwight and Dwight.
2:34:50
Could wax some poetic about what was what was what, what happened
2:34:53
right there. So we'll we'll let Blake ride
2:34:55
after you finish. Hey, that video.
2:34:57
I'm telling between that and and it was just the the welcoming
2:35:02
that you know and and we we hit it off with Ali's mom and you
2:35:08
know just everybody like Felton, like I I sit in the stands and I
2:35:13
got an NFHS account just to watch Jalen Lane's dad on his
2:35:18
playoff run to win the state championship.
2:35:21
You know. And I'm texting him and then we
2:35:23
meet him and Hatterby's. Family, you know?
2:35:26
I'm sitting in. Front of Felton's dad I can tell
2:35:28
you this students dad about knocked me over.
2:35:31
We end up hitting the kid at Boston College that was sitting
2:35:35
in. Front of.
2:35:35
Us standing in front of us is me and and T Rex and she, he bumps
2:35:42
me like look at it and I go like 3 trying to catch myself and it
2:35:48
was crazy. But I mean that's just the it's
2:35:50
the fan like you know going to those games and it's just where
2:35:54
the program is right now and I and I hadn't been around for 20
2:35:59
plus years. But you know, it's it's it's
2:36:03
different from where we were at Baylor and it's just it's it's
2:36:07
even though it's hard for me, it's hard for our family because
2:36:11
you know, I I play on Friday night, we want to win everybody.
2:36:14
Wants to win. Everybody wants to win every
2:36:16
damn week. I get home at 12:00.
2:36:20
I'm at the airport at 3:30 in the morning.
2:36:23
And I'm planning to. Charlie and got to drive 2 1/2
2:36:25
hours to Blacksburg. Hard for you, man.
2:36:27
Hard for you? You know, But it makes it work.
2:36:30
Then I'm on the first thing smoking Sunday out of there,
2:36:32
'cause I gotta get back Sunday. I love that.
2:36:35
I love that man. All right.
2:36:37
I I love the dedication from you, from y'all.
2:36:39
I mean that. That's what I have so much
2:36:40
respect for Chris and Kevin both.
2:36:43
I mean what y'all bring to the table from us just from being a
2:36:46
dad? Like that.
2:36:47
Matters. And.
2:36:49
I. Appreciate that.
2:36:50
And just from being. A friend.
2:36:52
Yeah, all. Right caller.
2:36:54
Caller this year. What was that moment?
2:36:59
I started it off. You've been drinking too much.
2:37:04
Had a had? A Curtis.
2:37:05
Damn. Curtis.
2:37:07
Curtis. It's my turn.
2:37:08
All right, you talk, man. Go ahead.
2:37:14
Run your mouth. By the way, that's how much.
2:37:16
There you go. Granddaddy baby.
2:37:19
You getting? It in to the side.
2:37:20
And everything I I said. It Hey, we got Donnie, man.
2:37:24
We got Donnie in here, man. Oh yeah, no, I.
2:37:26
Know the White's in here. All right, this is what I'll
2:37:28
say. It's either the drive or the
2:37:31
plate. After the fumble return, Kyron
2:37:34
unfortunately gets popped. He he loses the ball.
2:37:37
It goes back instead of withering, instead of faltering,
2:37:42
instead of running the ball and being safe and all that bullshit
2:37:49
53 yard touchdown pass Kyron to Jalen at the pit game extends
2:37:54
the lead back to 14. Them motherfuckers ain't coming.
2:37:58
I love drunk Curtis, man. You ain't.
2:38:01
Drunk enough right now. I am no.
2:38:04
Because that play, Curtis Curtis said.
2:38:07
I didn't drink enough evidence. Ziegler tally that play
2:38:11
happened. We fumble the ball.
2:38:13
What are y'all texting me? Ah, fuck, we thought it was.
2:38:16
Coming down, we thought it was we did we all?
2:38:19
Thought Pete. Pete, you're right.
2:38:20
You're right. We thought.
2:38:22
We thought, Oh my God, it's gonna happen.
2:38:23
We're like, all right, so we're so used to like being
2:38:27
conditioned to like the bad turning into the worst, right.
2:38:31
We're we're so conditioned to that it.
2:38:33
Didn't. We was losing Lane I.
2:38:35
Couldn't. Text anybody.
2:38:37
It came. It came old school.
2:38:39
It came old school at Tech when something bad happened.
2:38:43
Something better happened. Kyron went into that situation
2:38:47
with Jay Lane, went into it. 53 yard touchdown pass.
2:38:51
We on a 14. Nor do you know what the fuck to
2:38:54
do. He didn't because he knew his
2:38:57
offense couldn't score. Yeah, they got, they got a.
2:39:00
Lucky shot on that play before Arduchi's a clown.
2:39:03
Dick, Yeah. All right, all.
2:39:06
Right. All right, hold on.
2:39:08
We we got to get tuned because we have not.
2:39:10
Are we going to talk shit about Dardisi?
2:39:11
We're going to have like a 30 minute.
2:39:13
Yeah, because Chris should be here or whatever And be quiet.
2:39:16
Hold on. Hold on.
2:39:16
Hold. On.
2:39:17
Hold on, hold on. Take my moment.
2:39:18
We have. Take my moment.
2:39:19
We have Kevin this year, Chris, yo play this year.
2:39:24
You now you got to stay at Kevin.
2:39:25
You got to stay with Kevin. No, he doesn't.
2:39:27
Do us Kevin League. Kevin ends because Kevin's got a
2:39:31
guy on the team. It was 3.
2:39:34
Plays for me it was it was 3. It's 3 plays for me.
2:39:38
First pass Kyrie gets in against Purdue, hits, hits Daquan right
2:39:44
up the scene bow. I was like I was.
2:39:46
Like, oh shit. I was like, oh snap, hey, can I
2:39:51
say something? Like quick, can I say something
2:39:53
like quick just on that, hey, when he went, went, yeah, when
2:39:57
he got in, when he got in and he did that.
2:40:00
I started texting people and said y'all motherfuckers told me
2:40:03
he couldn't pass the ball. Y'all told me this motherfucker
2:40:07
couldn't. Throw you son of a bitches,
2:40:09
That's what I said that. Go ahead, Chris, it's.
2:40:11
It's it's 3 plays. That one was number one.
2:40:14
Second play is the look on his face when he lost to Florida
2:40:17
State because he was 38, hot. I knew he was a super duper.
2:40:21
He was competitive as hell. I said, oh, I love him.
2:40:24
And here's the last one, the North Carolina State game.
2:40:28
When the second-half they? Let him let loose of the ball.
2:40:31
I was like, hey, we ain't going no damn where else.
2:40:34
There is no place else in the country I'm going because they
2:40:36
going to let this dude cut it loose.
2:40:38
So it may have been like for us it was the wins, but it's the
2:40:42
way I watched him progress as a quarterback.
2:40:45
And so that was the thing for me to watch QB One be that guy.
2:40:50
Step, step, step. I know I'm like when I saw him,
2:40:54
when I saw him last Saturday. I asked him what he was going.
2:40:58
To go do for the offseason. And he told me he's going to go
2:41:00
work with Cam, Cam, Ward and Shadora.
2:41:03
I was like, oh shit. I was like, I was like, yeah,
2:41:07
hey, hey, dude, I was so hyped. I was like, you know, because
2:41:11
I'm. I said, I said, Chris, you on
2:41:14
there with me because a lot of times after the games win or
2:41:15
lost me and you were together. I said Yep, once it becomes this
2:41:20
team, Virginia Tech would do themselves a huge favor if they
2:41:25
build and brand around him. I'm telling you, I don't.
2:41:28
I don't miss. I called Eddie Royal.
2:41:31
I still got the. I still got the text.
2:41:34
My phone, the white said. The White said they still
2:41:39
haven't endorsed him. QB One for real, he said.
2:41:42
This kid is just out there playing, he said.
2:41:44
When they start really endorsing him, he's a star.
2:41:49
And The thing is. Even if his dad.
2:41:51
Wasn't here. I've been saying, I've been
2:41:53
saying all year when he took over because of the way the game
2:41:58
is played now with the Rpos, the mobility he has, plus the fact
2:42:02
is is he is my son is a fan. He said, Yo, my dude is so cool
2:42:07
and calm and collective, but yet he can run up on it and push a
2:42:09
defensive tackle from Wake Forest.
2:42:11
He can get in. He has the marketability where
2:42:15
tech. Now it's not just about back
2:42:18
when I played it was Beamer, Ball, lunch, bell.
2:42:20
Now you have to now you have to mark it because if you market
2:42:24
and brand a player, you're going to get more views, more kids
2:42:28
will be like, yo, I want to do this.
2:42:30
Case in point, they're people now that were babies, that were
2:42:34
kids that still talk about the impact Tyrod and Mike Vick had
2:42:37
on Virginia Tech. Mike ain't played in.
2:42:40
Years. You know what I'm saying?
2:42:42
Yeah, so 2 decades. If you do this right.
2:42:46
With drones he can be that guy. I I I know I was on the island
2:42:51
and I wasn't anti wells on some like oh I hate.
2:42:54
It was more so like he fit. And I remember Billy from Suns
2:42:57
this Saturday was like well, I don't think much will change if
2:42:59
he becomes a quarterback. I said yes it will because he
2:43:02
will open up running lanes. That's what he would do because
2:43:05
the linebackers have to honor him on his own.
2:43:08
They have to honor. They have to honor him on his
2:43:10
own and that's why. He became the guy.
2:43:16
Billy. Billy catching strays.
2:43:18
No matter. I'm sorry.
2:43:19
I'm sorry if you talked about. It on this program we talked
2:43:23
about all this program No 3. Up top talked.
2:43:27
About it, hey. Kevin, I'm.
2:43:29
Going to be for. Real.
2:43:30
Can we stop for one moment? QV, one's dad.
2:43:33
Kevin, when was it? What play?
2:43:35
Whether you were in this stadium at Lane or, you know, I don't
2:43:39
know if you made it to Rutgers or Marshall.
2:43:42
When was it? When you saw your son make a
2:43:45
play one way or the other and said this is it, He's not losing
2:43:49
this job. He is here.
2:43:53
I'm going to. A couple of things go ahead, so
2:43:56
I'll go back to the pit day, so me and my daughter go and we go
2:44:01
see him before the game. And.
2:44:05
It's it's it's Kern. Like, I see.
2:44:08
Oh, he's back. Like this is him.
2:44:11
Shadow Creek, 2020 Shadow. Creek, this is high school Kern,
2:44:15
like, they've cut him loose for real because he's like, I feel
2:44:19
good going to go up here, rest, whatever.
2:44:22
And he stepped off that bus. And when when that hokey walk
2:44:26
and he stepped off the bus and he had those white Prada
2:44:28
sunglasses on and I looked at my daughter and I said, Oh yeah.
2:44:32
Yeah, he was on one. And then he was on one.
2:44:34
He did the celebration. I was like, oh, he really
2:44:37
feeling himself. Then he did the Jordan thing and
2:44:38
I was like, oh, he really feeling himself today.
2:44:41
They had to let him get comfortable, yeah.
2:44:43
So. My plays.
2:44:45
Would be the back-to-back spikes.
2:44:47
They show spike that he didn't get penalized on, and in current
2:44:50
spike which they had to penalize since then they hit the referee.
2:44:55
Oh. It would be.
2:44:57
Those. Two.
2:44:58
And the other moment was when they went to Boston College.
2:45:03
They took care of business like they did because I felt like the
2:45:07
team needed that. They need to understand we can
2:45:11
go on the road and be the team like it should be.
2:45:14
Because I before that, all I heard about was Castellanos and
2:45:17
how it was. Yeah, he was that dude.
2:45:21
They went there. As a team and put a beat down on
2:45:24
Boston College and I had a great time.
2:45:25
This is my Cheers cup right here.
2:45:27
I went to Cheers and had a ball. Oh yeah, I saw that.
2:45:30
I saw that picture dog. I saw this.
2:45:32
I had. I went to.
2:45:33
Cheers and had a ball at night. Had the best crab boil I've had,
2:45:37
but I I plan to do another one when I get to Maryland Christmas
2:45:42
Eve, so I'll be there. I do like a good.
2:45:44
Yeah, Bill Gates are by. The way I'll be there.
2:45:49
But yeah, that's my. That's my.
2:45:51
Three months, that's your three months you got.
2:45:52
To come out with me in Annapolis.
2:45:54
I'll be there. Hey, hit.
2:45:57
Me up, Curtis going to be there too, Curtis.
2:45:59
Is going to get me I. Am I?
2:46:01
Kevin, I'm driving in that morning, so I'll hit you up.
2:46:05
Dwight, I'm going to hit you up. Yeah.
2:46:07
Dan, when are you going to be in?
2:46:09
I'll. I'll.
2:46:09
Get on Tuesday. Afternoon, I'm going to.
2:46:11
Be in Wednesday. Morning.
2:46:15
Listen, this. As always, the state of the
2:46:18
program is one of our funnest episodes.
2:46:21
All of y'all. We we lost Jeremy,
2:46:23
unfortunately. You know what?
2:46:27
Shout out. The Jeremy.
2:46:28
Shout out the Jeremy I. Love Jeremy?
2:46:29
I don't. Know Jeremy pays.
2:46:31
The bills here around these parts, so hold on.
2:46:34
We always got. To show Jeremy tell, I got.
2:46:36
To show you something. Oh, there it is, I still think.
2:46:44
I still think mine look better. I still.
2:46:47
Got to say mine. Look better, my wife wanted.
2:46:49
Me to show you all. These.
2:46:51
So this is this the bold prep. This is what we're doing with
2:46:55
shit, yeah. Oh, hey, Kevin.
2:47:04
Just. Flex it on us right now, Kevin.
2:47:05
Flex it on man. Kevin said I got everything.
2:47:12
Here, man. Let's do this, yeah.
2:47:14
I gotta say, so I I hit, I hit you up, whatever I need to do.
2:47:23
Listen, we we do this every year.
2:47:25
The state of the program means a lot.
2:47:27
And what the state of the program says for us is where we
2:47:30
are. A year ago, this one a fun
2:47:33
episode. We were three and 8/3.
2:47:37
And. Eight.
2:47:37
It kicked us in the God damn fucking nuts.
2:47:40
And it was just like in our lifetime between me.
2:47:43
Ziegler, Tally, Jeremy's drunk ass ain't here.
2:47:48
We've never seen three wins as a program.
2:47:51
We've never seen that because we go back to nine.
2:47:54
We go back to the mid 90s where it was Sugar bowls, Gator bowls,
2:47:59
Peach bowls, Orange bowls, all the good stuff.
2:48:03
And we sit here and. We're like, what?
2:48:05
What is this? What happened?
2:48:07
And then this year happened, and we saw it.
2:48:11
Transform. We saw a transformation, Robbie
2:48:15
telling us that drones, kids is different.
2:48:21
Fan. Interviewing Pete, talking.
2:48:22
About it. Tally talking, I mean all.
2:48:25
Of us looking at film, man, like all of us talking about film,
2:48:28
like we're like when. We look at this.
2:48:30
Team, it's different. It's different with this kid at
2:48:34
the starting quarterback. And then it happened.
2:48:36
Real ball watchers, no. And then we.
2:48:39
Absolutely Dan's. Dan's right.
2:48:42
And then? Week 3, it happens.
2:48:44
And then those two weeks of like confirmation, it's like moving
2:48:47
around, moving around, hit hits. And then fiving through.
2:48:51
The rest of the season. Hey fellas, I I.
2:48:55
Don't mean to cut across, but I I really want you to.
2:48:57
It really happened before then. Because you know us as men, you
2:49:03
know, it's hard for us to admit when we're not, when we're
2:49:06
wrong. So when Pry comes out and says,
2:49:09
you know what, I need to be a better head coach, hey, I need
2:49:13
to turn this over to Mars, you know, and let them take their
2:49:16
bumps and bruises along the way to get to that point.
2:49:20
That's what really changed it, the getting getting talent.
2:49:24
Because I cannot tell you the number of times he called my
2:49:27
house and said, listen, don't don't give up on us If we can
2:49:33
sneak, if we can sneak you in and put a unknown name on you
2:49:36
and let you go run down the field, kids will do it, 'cause
2:49:40
we ain't Got Talent, we ain't got the talent.
2:49:42
But for him to understand I need to learn this and I got to get
2:49:45
better at that. This coaching staff understood
2:49:49
they needed to get certain people and for them to go on the
2:49:51
portal. I mean we we watch it every day.
2:49:54
Shout out to Kobe, man who who put the the Twitter feed up
2:49:58
about the portal. Yeah, respect to Kobe.
2:50:00
Kobe has been crushed. Yeah.
2:50:02
He out there? Doing God's work, they shot out
2:50:05
for 30 people. They going to end up getting
2:50:07
maybe four. I know they got two more guys
2:50:10
coming in already. Oh.
2:50:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we know.
2:50:14
Yeah, Yeah. We talked about it.
2:50:16
We're not breaking news here, but we talked about it.
2:50:18
Yeah, Yeah, we talked about it, but the.
2:50:21
The thing about it is that they they go out and target certain
2:50:25
cats. Because I'm going to be honest
2:50:26
with you, before they shot a, you know, shot a offer to a kid
2:50:31
out and from Baylor, I ain't know who Kyron Jones was.
2:50:35
I ain't had no clue. Who he was.
2:50:37
But they. But they do their research and
2:50:39
they dig it out. So, man, shout out to this
2:50:41
coaching staff, changing this thing, man.
2:50:43
And it's never the guy who follows the legend.
2:50:46
That's great. It's the guy that follows, the
2:50:49
guy that follows the legend that is.
2:50:52
Am I right? Yeah.
2:50:56
I said. I said at the end of the day, I
2:50:59
might have been again when the Twitter space with you.
2:51:03
I said one thing Pride will need to do, and Beamer had his and
2:51:08
other coaches across the country had this.
2:51:10
I said he's got to get his Mount Rushmore recruit.
2:51:14
I. Said that, he said.
2:51:17
I said he could be. The the first of the Mount
2:51:20
Rushmore. Because for Beamer it was Mike.
2:51:23
It was Cornell Brown. Maurice Cesajo.
2:51:25
It was Austin. Kevin.
2:51:27
Jones, You know, you look at that.
2:51:31
Yeah, so you. Look at Kyron Jones.
2:51:33
He could be the first of the Mount Rushmore.
2:51:37
We talked about that on this. Program man we talked about.
2:51:41
Who's going to be the? Corey Moore of this fucking pry
2:51:44
regime and look. Right.
2:51:45
Tell you how important it is Syracuse.
2:51:47
I'm I'm going back to my original point Syracuse missed
2:51:50
on my cousin Donna May now always says how did he who got I
2:51:54
said I got him. Donna McNabb, I beat you twice,
2:51:57
right. So here's the thing.
2:51:59
Syracuse never recovered from that.
2:52:01
They never recovered. They got, they got Troy, they
2:52:04
had a guy named Troy Nunes. And then after that they went
2:52:07
through a a shit load of quarterbacks.
2:52:09
They never recovered from not getting Mike.
2:52:11
Look at UVA. Look at the schools who never
2:52:12
really gotten that guy. Greg has been very fortunate.
2:52:15
Gerard Evans. And then, you know we went
2:52:17
through some some tough years and then you get Kyle.
2:52:19
Ron. It was up and down.
2:52:20
You got a hit? You got a hit and we hit on
2:52:23
Mike, we hit on Brian Randall, we hit on tie rod and listen,
2:52:27
tie rod was a five star, but you still got a hit on him and and
2:52:30
and and we did. And it's funny when we're
2:52:33
talking about what when we'll know we're back.
2:52:36
That is a very difficult question.
2:52:38
Some people think we might have already seen that moment, maybe
2:52:41
at the UVA game or earlier in the year.
2:52:44
But do you remember back in the 90s And they're trying to define
2:52:47
pornography, right? And it's a very hard thing to
2:52:50
define. You know it when you see it,
2:52:52
you. Know it when?
2:52:53
You see it and I think when we are back we will all know it
2:52:59
when we see it. And we might.
2:53:01
And some of us might have already seen it in that 55 point
2:53:03
performance, but I think it's still to come and and we will
2:53:07
know when we see it, I'm be honest.
2:53:11
With you I I think. I think I think the the the Noah
2:53:15
see it point and I'm going to just call it as it is Clemson
2:53:18
come to town we whip Clemson ass that's what.
2:53:23
It's going to be for hey. Can I talk my?
2:53:24
Shit for a second, talk for shit.
2:53:26
Talk for shit day. You got you with me, coach.
2:53:28
You with me, coach. So last year you last year we
2:53:32
were. Three and eight, right?
2:53:33
Yeah, I've been joking. No, no, two years.
2:53:35
Ago, we had three names, 60 starts, Yeah, yeah, I've been.
2:53:38
I've been joking recently that I love Pride.
2:53:40
Before it was cool. Yeah, that's.
2:53:42
Fair. I There were a few of us that.
2:53:44
Were never we never wavered? And we went three and.
2:53:48
Eight. And then there was a game last
2:53:49
year that that 2023 class put out a video, said Hope, help us
2:53:53
on the way we're coming. Everybody was like, what the
2:53:56
fuck? This is some bullshit.
2:53:57
Everybody's like 85, like, you know what I'm saying?
2:54:00
But a lot of everybody said it was Dicky.
2:54:02
Everybody said it was Dicky Dick.
2:54:04
A lot of these dudes, you know, like they, they made an impact
2:54:08
this year. And then you bring in a guy like
2:54:10
Karen who ends up being him. And now we have a quarterback
2:54:14
that everybody between from the coaching staff to the fan base
2:54:18
is absolutely united behind for the first time since what Tyrod
2:54:21
and Logan. So the the future for me and we,
2:54:26
we just plugged a lot of gaps with Peoples Copeland, maybe a
2:54:30
couple more. We got Bromfield coming in to
2:54:32
play the mic. Like, for us to not be very,
2:54:36
very excited for the future would be crazy.
2:54:38
Like, I'm ready. I'm ready.
2:54:40
The opium inject me, baby. Like, let's go.
2:54:43
Hey, yo, real quick. You got to.
2:54:45
Wrap up but look. Shout out to the fans because
2:54:47
I'm going to tell y'all something.
2:54:48
After the Military Bowl, I sat with my family was twenty of us.
2:54:52
I sat in that rainstorm. I was soaked.
2:54:56
We had a chance to win the game. We call it time out.
2:54:58
We on the we on the 2 inch, we on the 2 inch yard line.
2:55:02
Ryan Willis goes on the center, which I'm happy about.
2:55:04
We fumble the ball. This is after we got a turnover.
2:55:07
Cincinnati was a 10 or 11 win team that year.
2:55:09
Ten wins team right we we we if we go and score we go up two
2:55:13
scores and we win that game. After that game I vowed I would
2:55:17
never go back to a tech game until something changed with the
2:55:20
coach. I had not I had not been to
2:55:22
Blacksburg. I I I stopped going to the
2:55:24
spring game. He said this on our program You.
2:55:28
You called the spring game, Dwight.
2:55:30
That was your thing. I called.
2:55:31
It but I I I was mad. It wasn't about alumni and how
2:55:35
we were treated. I was mad because if you ever
2:55:38
build something or you're part of something that's bigger than
2:55:40
yourself, it is emotional for me.
2:55:43
So I'm not that guy. Like I look at these guys now
2:55:45
that's playing Caleb. What's all these young guys?
2:55:48
I'm happy. I was happy when Dwayne Brown
2:55:50
and Anthony Davis was killing and why I tell her it's not
2:55:53
about me, it's about the program.
2:55:54
So I was to the point where it wasn't my feelings was hurt my
2:55:59
my love for what I helped build was hurt.
2:56:01
Like my was. It was it.
2:56:04
Show Show me what? I'm used to, yeah, so like.
2:56:06
And then I kept seeing guys on Twitter, Not the new guys there
2:56:10
now, but they'll stick with us. And then the next day, I know
2:56:13
they they leaving the program and I'm talking to guys and
2:56:16
that's when Don V gave me the scoop on what was going on.
2:56:19
So Hokey Nation, though they have never wavered, they keep
2:56:23
coming back. They're a big reason why our
2:56:26
brand is still reputable because they keep showing up at 11:30
2:56:31
kickoffs Thursday night. Now you're giving them a product
2:56:34
watch. And for those going watch how
2:56:37
crazy the Military Bowl going to look this next week.
2:56:39
Yeah, we're selling. Out, We're selling out all.
2:56:42
Those games after a three win season, yeah, and all those six
2:56:45
sell. Out and.
2:56:47
Think about Blacksburg and how hard it is to get to.
2:56:50
And I always say this to my friends like, we don't get down
2:56:53
there that much because it's hard to get to.
2:56:55
But when you get there, it is special.
2:56:58
And you have to, you have to, you have to earn your way to
2:57:01
get, you got to sit on 81 all the way down to get there.
2:57:05
But once you get there, it's special.
2:57:07
And that creates. A different kind of environment
2:57:09
that only the people that go know about.
2:57:12
And I'm with Dwight. You can, you know it when you
2:57:15
see it, when you make it, but you can also know it when you
2:57:18
see it when it stinks. And I think a lot of us knew
2:57:22
something was fishy. And fortunately we're not there
2:57:25
anymore and it feels good to be on the other side.
2:57:29
I sat in that rainstorm too, Dwight.
2:57:31
Man, listen, the Kentucky game, I was like, yo, I'm not even one
2:57:36
of them guys. I'm not going to lie to y'all.
2:57:37
I don't do all, Dwight said. The.
2:57:39
Kentucky game. That's oh man, you know, like,
2:57:41
yo, for real. We should that game should have
2:57:44
been can't shipping the all out brawl dog because I know how we
2:57:46
had the game back in the day. Now what?
2:57:48
Killed me. Was OK, We lose the game with
2:57:50
complete control, then your boy come to the podium.
2:57:53
They were like sorry about the loss, coach, he said.
2:57:55
Nobody died. What are y'all talking?
2:57:59
About like oh. Really.
2:58:02
Also. There should have been a fucking
2:58:04
axe Absolute scrap on the sideline after that.
2:58:06
Lynn Balin. Shit.
2:58:09
That. Should have escalated to
2:58:11
uncontrollable levels. There should have been.
2:58:14
There should have been offensive lineman and defensive lineman
2:58:17
breaking Lynn Balin. I would.
2:58:19
I would have broke somebody's fucking arm off.
2:58:21
No, no. No seagull.
2:58:22
Just. Be.
2:58:24
Now let him downside. Get in your face.
2:58:26
You would have fucking destroyed him.
2:58:28
Yeah, that was. The shit back then, it is not
2:58:32
nailed because we have turned a we have turned a corner in the
2:58:36
program of the culture. We're back where we were.
2:58:40
It sounds funny, right? We're back to where we were in
2:58:43
the terms of the. Chemistry.
2:58:45
Not. Maybe not all the way with the
2:58:47
time. Right.
2:58:48
No, I'm going to I'm. Going.
2:58:51
To say something, Dwight. Dwight said something.
2:58:54
Yeah, Dwight said something to me, man.
2:58:56
I guess it may have been last year at the OR this year at the
2:59:00
beginning of the season, he said.
2:59:01
I think everybody was kind of arguing about who was going to
2:59:04
coach what or what quarterback coach we were going to get or
2:59:07
what coach was going to bring in.
2:59:09
And Dwight was like, it don't matter what coach we bring in.
2:59:13
I mean, you got your head coach. We got to get talent.
2:59:16
We need talent. That's what we need.
2:59:18
It don't matter. Who?
2:59:19
It don't matter who's coaching the kids if you don't have
2:59:22
talent. So for I mean great kids from
2:59:26
last year, last year's team, but when you go into this off?
2:59:31
Like Pete said, I'm. Not saying that we're back, but
2:59:34
going into this next season, we're going to bring some camera
2:59:37
crews in because we got star power.
2:59:40
Like if you look at Aly Jennings, if you look at Aly
2:59:43
Jennings and that game that he played, how many people he had
2:59:48
at that game, like the ACC Network was eating that up.
2:59:53
Because he has talent. But they like look how many
2:59:55
people he's got here and he's a good talker.
2:59:57
And then when you see Kyrie, he get on, he get on and he starts
3:00:00
out, you got to have some of that.
3:00:02
You going to have some kids on the All ACC?
3:00:05
Watch list before the game. You going to have some kids
3:00:08
maybe on the all America we had some all American.
3:00:10
Dorian Strong was all American like you got, you got fresh.
3:00:15
You got fresh recruits? Yeah, you got high.
3:00:17
Profile recruits coming in, you've got something that a
3:00:21
camera crew is going to want to come in and talk about and going
3:00:24
to want to film, and it's just not going to be manufactured
3:00:27
hype. It's going to be actual hype.
3:00:29
What we do with it, we'll see. But I remember when they used to
3:00:32
go cover David Wilson and say, hey, look at his car.
3:00:35
He had the old school car. I remember on, on, on the, on
3:00:39
ESPN. And they will follow.
3:00:41
Him around and talk about what he was doing.
3:00:45
We had the year. Like A2?
3:00:46
1001 camera or some shit, but that was like fucking you got.
3:00:50
Yeah, you got to think, man, like next year we have stars
3:00:55
that people are going to want to know about.
3:00:57
They don't want to know about Kyron drones.
3:00:58
They're going to want to know about Bayshaw, too.
3:01:00
They're going to want to know about Quanfeld.
3:01:02
They're going to want to know about Allie Jennings.
3:01:04
They're going to want to know about at least those owning APL
3:01:09
they want. To know about White shot the
3:01:13
Curtis they want. To know about White.
3:01:18
Chocolate Chocolate. Yeah.
3:01:20
So I go back to my to my original statement.
3:01:23
You know, like kind of what Pete's saying.
3:01:25
We'll know when we see it, but we're going to have all the
3:01:28
tools to get there because you're going to see a lot of
3:01:31
media covering these kids. I got prediction, but I'm
3:01:33
waiting till September. Go ahead.
3:01:35
I'm not going to say it now. I I feel it in my OK, OK, I feel
3:01:39
it. And I let.
3:01:40
I don't miss. I don't miss when I make these
3:01:42
predictions. I think he, I think he texted me
3:01:45
before. I'm not going to text him today
3:01:47
before he's not going to make it public.
3:01:50
But he does what he's talking about.
3:01:52
Hold on. Wait, A.
3:01:53
Second. Hold on.
3:01:53
Wait a second, we. Know Dwight will be back on in
3:01:57
April or excuse me, August of next year to make all his
3:02:01
predictions. When we go March, April, it's
3:02:05
always a Dwight episode. Look man, we always have Dwight
3:02:07
on in March, April every year. I'm not like I said.
3:02:10
His dad could be in Afghanistan right now.
3:02:12
I'm not saying it because he's on this joint, right?
3:02:14
I'm telling you I know what I see, bro.
3:02:17
I don't miss. I told everybody about Strowman.
3:02:20
Nobody, believe me. I told people about David Wilson
3:02:24
and Eddie Royal before he got there.
3:02:25
I don't. I I told people about my cousin,
3:02:28
the guy that writes for the collegiate times in 1998.
3:02:31
I said it's an article I'll I'll post it.
3:02:33
I I think I did before. I said he will change the
3:02:36
program. He'll take us to the national
3:02:37
championship. He'll he'll be up for the
3:02:39
Heisman. I said all the things he has
3:02:40
read and the guy told me after I walked away, he said, Yo, I
3:02:44
thought you was on that shit. He said he.
3:02:50
Told you if it wasn't Ronald Curry, it didn't matter.
3:02:55
If it wasn't Ronald Curry, it didn't matter.
3:03:09
I said when I. Know something?
3:03:11
I'm telling y'all. Watch what drones do, Michael.
3:03:13
Michael Vick was running scout team and blood, Foster said in a
3:03:17
in a coaches meeting. He said Frank.
3:03:19
Either we are the worst tackling team in the nation or that kid
3:03:22
is special and frank. Said and Frank.
3:03:25
And. Frank said.
3:03:26
We are a great tackling team and that kid is Special 1998.
3:03:30
Was a great tackling team and that wraps up this episode. 3
3:03:35
hours, 6 minutes. Chris.
3:03:39
Kevin, Charlie, PB, Dan, Dwight, Jeremy, Robbie, everybody that
3:03:47
joined us tonight, it wrapped his side out to my.
3:03:51
Kiki crew, go ahead. They've been in.
3:03:53
They've been in the chat room all day.
3:03:56
They. Killing me I've been seeing.
3:03:58
Them everybody that you. Bringing along for the ride, I
3:04:01
appreciate that. They gonna ride, ride or die
3:04:05
with me wherever I go. So I told y'all all black people
3:04:08
are kid aren't part of the Drones family.
3:04:12
Going to the game. Love that.
3:04:14
No. Doubt.
3:04:18
You ain't black. I gotta find the white.
3:04:24
I gotta find big drink the damn military Bowl.
3:04:29
I need a Kevin drone. Episode come.
3:04:33
On listen. Damn.
3:04:34
This is. What?
3:04:36
This is like Aaron got. Sick the week he was supposed to
3:04:39
do y'all show. And he was.
3:04:41
So locked in on trying to get to the bowl that he said he was
3:04:45
going to reach back out after they finished.
3:04:48
But. He he still wants to do y'all
3:04:50
show. Listen we'll we'll.
3:04:53
We'll say both, Katie. 'S what?
3:04:55
What? What?
3:04:56
What? Let's do in in February when
3:04:58
he's a month into hardcore training.
3:05:01
But listen, it's just been three hours, 7 minutes it's been.
3:05:05
Also, this is what this episode so much more to say.
3:05:09
We have been. I've been trying to recruit.
3:05:17
Pete, I've been trying to Pete the BCP.
3:05:19
So hey, I'm just telling Pete. Was dropping.
3:05:24
Some Buy your monologue. I love P, Man.
3:05:27
You would be those. Of these fucking can I can I say
3:05:31
one more thing before? We sign off real quick.
3:05:33
Yeah, you went when? Clemson's When?
3:05:35
Clemson's dynasty started right It started with a with a
3:05:39
quarterback in Taj Boyd, and it started with a wide a wide
3:05:42
receiver in a Virginia. Quarterback and we got 2.
3:05:45
Fathers, here we got, we got a quarterback's father, we got a
3:05:49
wide receiver's father, and you know what else all fell into
3:05:51
place after that? The Lions came together and
3:05:53
everything. That's where things start.
3:05:55
They start on the outside and they come to the inside and
3:05:59
that's what we got coming back for next year.
3:06:02
And I tell y'all this, man, I can.
3:06:04
See I can. See it building already and I'm
3:06:07
just pumped and I'm so happy to be here he's.
3:06:09
Trying to hold it because see, he keeps on saying, hey, when we
3:06:12
know it, when we see it, we know it.
3:06:15
This. Motherfucker, it's happening.
3:06:17
I understand he. Said what he's saying.
3:06:18
Is it's happening right now. That's what he's saying.
3:06:21
It's not just the beers. Not.
3:06:24
Just the beers. Hey if you new to this.
3:06:27
Program. I want you to go back.
3:06:29
I want you to plug all of our shit.
3:06:30
We've had Pry on. Pry is a very candid coach.
3:06:33
He's going to tell you the truth.
3:06:34
He's going to be real with you. We've talked.
3:06:36
We've had the right on before the season.
3:06:38
I've fought. I'm talking about plenty of
3:06:42
motherfuckers on Twitter talking about what this team was going
3:06:45
to do. I said we going to get to a
3:06:47
motherfucker bowl game. I'm telling you, I don't care
3:06:49
what I got, We get to a bowl game and guess what?
3:06:52
Sally said. We get.
3:06:53
To a bowl in spring. We last year fucking.
3:06:56
Bowl game. Everybody was looking at me
3:06:58
crazy. We.
3:06:59
Let's go back to the the episode before the season.
3:07:03
Yeah, let's check the tape. Let's of the three hundreds said
3:07:06
it. PB.
3:07:07
Said we're going to get to a bowl.
3:07:08
We, a lot of us said we're going to a bowl.
3:07:11
We got to a bowl this year. I didn't see it.
3:07:14
Dan said it if you would have. Told me a year from.
3:07:16
Now we here. I didn't believe it, but we got
3:07:19
here. We got here.
3:07:20
We're in. Annapolis we.
3:07:22
Should maybe be somewhere else, but let's not get into all that
3:07:28
'cause I love drunker. I'm over the feeling good.
3:07:30
In my favor, are you about? To go get.
3:07:33
Another I love drunker from feeling good.
3:07:36
Oh. Hey, hey, hey.
3:07:37
Chris, Brian and Robbie have dealt with drunk Curtis, I
3:07:42
guarantee you. More than a few times.
3:07:47
You know what? We we've been here.
3:07:49
We've done that. We bought the T-shirt, man.
3:07:51
We we took man. Has to fucking be man.
3:07:53
Opens a second model. We ain't making for about.
3:08:00
Three hours I get. No, no, it's over with.
3:08:03
It's over with. I'm telling you, man.
3:08:05
Hey, this is this what I this what I want to say to this.
3:08:08
What I want to say to I don't. I don't know who's already
3:08:12
making preparations. I know Chris is.
3:08:15
I don't know who else is but Nashville next year.
3:08:19
I need everybody to be there. I see.
3:08:21
I see. I see in the.
3:08:25
In the comments, y'all already saying it's going to be the Kick
3:08:27
it crew. We can name it whatever y'all
3:08:29
want to. I'll tell you it's two hours a
3:08:30
work from my house. Somebody don't got nowhere to
3:08:32
stay. Give me a call.
3:08:33
You can come stay with me, 'cause I need us to.
3:08:36
I'll put. My head down where you live.
3:08:40
I'll put my head down where you live.
3:08:41
Hey, it's too much. Fucking country music.
3:08:43
In Nashville, I need us sitting down playing some rap music.
3:08:47
I need us sitting there slapping the screw.
3:08:49
Come on, man. Come on.
3:08:52
Man, yeah, man. I hear you Kevin.
3:08:59
I'm. Still tipping all.
3:09:00
Way to Nashville next year. I need us to be up in.
3:09:03
I need us somebody's ass. You locked in everybody.
3:09:08
In this. Room tonight.
3:09:10
Everybody on this. Whole everybody on this Whole.
3:09:13
Yeah, we'll be there. Screaming and.
3:09:15
Louder and. Proud and we say let's go.
3:09:18
OK. Yes, Sir.
3:09:23
God. Damn it, I'm gonna be a motion
3:09:25
picture. Listen.
3:09:27
This. Was.
3:09:28
Awesome Tonight, State of the state of the program is good.
3:09:33
The state of the program right now feels great because if you
3:09:35
feel the energy coming from this room right now, we feel it.
3:09:39
Caring the quarterback. Hey, Kevin.
3:09:41
Kevin who is Who is was that callus knows Who is that?
3:09:45
That's my boy. So OK, I got to meet him.
3:09:49
You've been rolling deep, man. I love that you've been.
3:09:52
I got comments in there. I love it old time.
3:09:54
So, Mario. Mario and Andrew Callus.
3:09:58
They go with me. To the Florida State Clemson
3:10:01
Act. We fly I'm.
3:10:03
Up all night, we fly to Atlanta. They don't have any rental.
3:10:07
Cars, It's the week after the big flood in Atlanta.
3:10:12
No rental cars. So I I.
3:10:14
Have. I'm I'm off the ship.
3:10:17
So I missed the Old Dominion game because I get on the plane,
3:10:21
planes, on the tarmac and. We we 3. 4 hours delayed.
3:10:27
I'm like, I'm not missing kickoff.
3:10:29
I'll just go back home. I've already missed the Hokie
3:10:32
walk. I still got to get to Charlotte,
3:10:33
drive 2 1/2 hours. I'm going to miss everything,
3:10:36
leave me off the plane. So all of that has happened.
3:10:39
We get to Atlanta and then this happens.
3:10:42
So I'm like, I'm from the missing.
3:10:43
So both games are kicked off. So we go to a bar like I'm
3:10:46
outside, Callas tells me. We we get over to the bar, we go
3:10:50
to the sports bar and I got both games.
3:10:52
I got the Florida State game on. I got the Marshall game on
3:10:55
current scores right away. So people in there going crazy.
3:10:59
Hey, high five, my boy pulls up. Mario pulls up in a truck.
3:11:05
He's like meet me outside. I'll be damned.
3:11:08
We ain't come out of this way and we ain't watching no gaming
3:11:10
goddamn bar. So we drive all the way to
3:11:12
Clemson. We get to Clemson at the end of
3:11:14
the fourth quarter. I'm.
3:11:16
Literally there. Just for the overtime?
3:11:20
I get to see my. Son going on the bus.
3:11:23
I've watched the game on my damn phone, Currents game on the
3:11:27
phone as I'm trying to get in the stadium.
3:11:29
Wow. See the end of the game.
3:11:32
They win. Get on the bus, we drive back to
3:11:35
Atlanta, go to the cigar bar, have a great time, miss our
3:11:39
flight. The next morning we had two good
3:11:40
retires. Got to get another flight.
3:11:45
Those my ride or die dudes. That's the kicky crew.
3:11:48
I love that, I told. Them I'm going to.
3:11:50
Be able to have a good time so they.
3:11:52
Like. Are we drunk with y'all We need
3:11:55
to be on the show We drunk with no.
3:11:58
Doubt we? Drinking.
3:11:59
So they've been drinking. With us the whole time.
3:12:02
Good. Well, the kicking.
3:12:03
Crew. Is formally invited to the
3:12:04
tailgate at the at the military boat.
3:12:06
So and they will be. They they will be in the
3:12:09
building slide. Well, y'all make.
3:12:12
Y'all make sure y'all pull a little lookout for your boy.
3:12:14
I'll be, I'll be. I don't know how I'm gonna work
3:12:16
that day. I'm just.
3:12:17
I'm just Chris. Chris, it's.
3:12:19
On Wednesday, Chris, nobody's going to.
3:12:22
Take that back. Take it back.
3:12:23
Take it back. Chris the other day was on tally
3:12:27
space, sleeping. Shit.
3:12:30
Bitten. True.
3:12:31
Oh my God, Chris. Holy shit.
3:12:35
You weren't fucking testifying, man.
3:12:38
Listen, man. I I I it's just to me to me and
3:12:43
and I I know y'all y'all are in it but that went went that was
3:12:47
just such a big time for us and and guys going what we're trying
3:12:51
to do and the direction we're trying to grow in and and I I
3:12:55
just I get mad when I see so many kids in so many different
3:12:58
situations. You know, like I said, that big
3:13:00
thing when and I love Drake, Brock as a guy, as a man.
3:13:04
But when he came and raped, raped my state in 2022, I, I, I,
3:13:09
I'll say, I'll say this personally.
3:13:11
I was talking to my wife the other day and Teon Holloway came
3:13:15
to me. He played with Keelan and Green
3:13:17
Run and he wanted to decommit from North Carolina.
3:13:22
And. He said to me, I don't know if I
3:13:24
should go. And I was like, well, why don't
3:13:26
you want to go? He's like, well, I don't know if
3:13:28
I'm being able to fit there now. Unbeknownst to anybody else.
3:13:31
He was hurt, He had a bad shoulder.
3:13:33
So he took that year to get his shoulder right and be able to
3:13:38
play. So now he, he took that year,
3:13:40
got his body right, learn some different things and now he's
3:13:43
going to Louisville. And that's fine for me because I
3:13:45
want him to go and get done with need to get done.
3:13:47
But I told him at that point, don't decommit.
3:13:49
I said if you decommit now and they find out you're hurt,
3:13:52
you're going to drop down, you're not going to get the same
3:13:54
training table as going to the next thing.
3:13:56
And so I think like coach, like Kevin does you, you take pride
3:14:01
in, try to make sure these kids make the right decisions.
3:14:03
But when you know on on the back end that certain things are a
3:14:07
certain kind of way, it pisses you off.
3:14:10
So I'll just stay here right now and then put it it's tape, this
3:14:13
recording. I'm always going to have a
3:14:15
certain kind of feeling about Chris Cole not staying and going
3:14:19
to Virginia Tech. I'm always going to feel like
3:14:21
because I know the guy who helped helped put that put that
3:14:24
together. It always pisses me off because
3:14:28
he did that I. I will.
3:14:30
I will. Say that, and if anybody ever
3:14:33
want to know the back story to it, I take I take pride.
3:14:37
Yeah, I take pride in any, any family that ask me anything
3:14:42
about this recruiting thing. I will tell them exactly what
3:14:46
they need to do. But I think, Kevin, I know you
3:14:48
probably have it too, like people, and you got two kids.
3:14:51
Shout out to Kevin 'cause he's got he got a set, he got 2IN.
3:14:55
The portal too? Yeah, two in the.
3:14:57
Yeah, two in the portal. He got a daughter in college.
3:14:59
Too, yeah. Your daughter in college, about
3:15:01
to be in college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:15:04
We got, we got some. We got some things I know.
3:15:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got some stuff, Right.
3:15:09
We're just trying to get the. Zero on the fee receipt.
3:15:11
There you go. I I think.
3:15:16
I think what ends up happening in Kevin contested is people
3:15:19
will look at you and say, oh, your kid is at this point
3:15:22
because of this, that and the third.
3:15:24
And a lot of times nobody gives you any guidance in this.
3:15:28
You're walk. You're like blind in this, so
3:15:30
people will tell you certain stuff and it's not true.
3:15:33
And then when you get your kids to a certain point, they just
3:15:36
think, oh, they just gave this all to you.
3:15:38
Now nobody gave us shit. Let it ride, Kevin.
3:15:42
Kevin, Can I say something real quick?
3:15:43
I've been Kevin, to have two kids at the collegiate football
3:15:48
level. Man, kid.
3:15:49
Come on, man. That's the level of.
3:15:51
College sports. That is impressive, man.
3:15:55
Bow to you because three kids, three Division One.
3:15:59
Athlete 3 Division. Ridiculous.
3:16:01
Oh my God. Ridiculous.
3:16:03
Insane 2 at. Football.
3:16:05
That are doing things at programs.
3:16:07
Yeah. I mean football in general.
3:16:09
Having two at football in general is ridiculous.
3:16:12
Have another one. Ridiculous.
3:16:15
Having another one. They're doing great stuff.
3:16:19
You my wife. Is up there.
3:16:20
Saying his Mama? Exactly.
3:16:22
Yeah. No respect to her.
3:16:25
She's right. No, don't.
3:16:26
Just respect you, Kevin said. She's right.
3:16:28
She's right now. Is she?
3:16:30
Right, that's right. Dad.
3:16:31
Dad can, We didn't say. Y'all this is like.
3:16:34
And I and I want to put this out there because I know parents are
3:16:37
out there watching. Like this?
3:16:40
Nil stuff. We took we had a crash course in
3:16:44
January. Baylor didn't do it.
3:16:46
And UTEP didn't do it. We didn't know what it was.
3:16:49
All we knew was what we Googled or.
3:16:53
What we had seen on. Twitter, or what we had seen on
3:16:55
Internet in that first conversation threw us off.
3:17:01
Like, I'm glad we wasn't on Zoom, because we're.
3:17:04
Ready. Yeah.
3:17:05
I didn't get that. Oh, they don't.
3:17:07
Understand. Because if we didn't, we don't
3:17:09
know what it is. And I want these kids to
3:17:13
understand. I tell all our kids, you know,
3:17:15
I'm in the Eastern area. And I tell these kids, I mean,
3:17:18
you know, I still close to those Shadow Creek guys.
3:17:20
I went to one of their signings yesterday.
3:17:22
The other day, one of my D lineman signed with University
3:17:25
Houston and I'm like, hey, when it comes to this, nil you?
3:17:30
Need to. Understand.
3:17:33
You need to think. About taxes.
3:17:36
Don't. Think about just the number.
3:17:39
Don't take all the long hanging fruit that just want to pay you
3:17:42
for a deal, because every deal is not a good deal for your
3:17:45
brand. So.
3:17:47
Do some. Homework behind it and have a
3:17:50
budget. That's the that's.
3:17:52
So funny, you said. I was just thinking.
3:17:54
About the tax thing today like that.
3:17:55
Is the tax. It's a huge thing.
3:17:57
I had to go talk. I I called my tax.
3:17:59
Lady when Karen committed to Virginia Tech.
3:18:03
Texas don't have state. Tax, yeah, ain't got no state
3:18:06
tax. Virginia got state tax.
3:18:07
I was. Like show no.
3:18:08
Duty show no due. Yeah, on my.
3:18:11
Account. Hey, can you do you handle?
3:18:13
Yeah. Tell me what this?
3:18:14
Tell me what this impacts us at. Oh.
3:18:16
My God, can you? Like and and then she had to
3:18:20
give us some guidance on, OK, you got to do this, this and
3:18:23
this. But these, I know a lot of kids
3:18:27
don't have that in their head like I have Karen.
3:18:31
Like look, you got to think about this before you purchase
3:18:35
this, understand the needs versus wants.
3:18:40
Doing. That and making them
3:18:41
accountable. Like, OK, if you want this, yes,
3:18:44
you earn some. Stuff.
3:18:46
I'm going to. Make you pay it.
3:18:48
Back. You want it earlier, then you
3:18:52
got to pay it back just because you're on a budget.
3:18:55
So if you want it early. Yeah, we can.
3:18:57
We can pay for it. But then you're.
3:18:59
Going to pay for. The next couple there's going
3:19:01
to. Be some something on the back
3:19:02
end. You got to pay it back.
3:19:04
So I need you to understand at 19 and 20.
3:19:09
How? Money works.
3:19:11
And. And and.
3:19:12
Get and talk to a financial planner.
3:19:14
I was on the phone yesterday with Goldman and Sachs.
3:19:18
You got to have a financial. Planner like I need you to
3:19:21
understand how money works and I don't.
3:19:24
I don't want you to squander. The opportunities that.
3:19:28
You have? When I left him at Virginia Tech
3:19:31
and I told both of them because Jeremiah turned down more money
3:19:34
to go to Miami than get Florida State, and I said look, I said
3:19:39
hey. You chose this.
3:19:42
I said, And God has blessed you with opportunity, and he's
3:19:45
paved. The.
3:19:45
Way for you to only think about schooling football.
3:19:52
Don't squander. It away the best thing, Karen.
3:19:55
Karen got MVP at the team banquet or whatever.
3:19:58
But when he sent me. His, his.
3:20:00
I say report card. Old school.
3:20:02
They don't do report card. Right, right, right, right.
3:20:03
Right. Text me the report.
3:20:05
Card doesn't mean they were laughing, 'cause I was, I had to
3:20:09
like I had a moment, 'cause he, he had four point O to get all a
3:20:13
yeah. Yeah, and I'm like.
3:20:15
Dude, that's better than the MVP.
3:20:16
Yeah, it is crazy because. You went to a.
3:20:18
Whole new state you went on the. East.
3:20:19
Coast, you. Played.
3:20:21
You went through all that stuff and you went 15 hours and got a
3:20:24
four point O You made exactly And you know, you know what's
3:20:27
playing the team is dude. Kevin Well, Kevin, Kevin, he
3:20:30
made the deal. No, we we we going, we going to
3:20:32
celebrate that shit. No.
3:20:34
Everybody clap that up. So.
3:20:36
Hey, you know. What's crazy?
3:20:38
Too academic, All Big 12. And when he left, I said
3:20:42
understand like that doesn't change you.
3:20:44
I just expect you to be all academic ACC.
3:20:46
It doesn't matter. Like make it happen.
3:20:49
So he's laughing, you know, 'cause that's how he is.
3:20:53
He's like, he said you told me to make all academic ACC.
3:20:57
I just went over and made Dean's list for you.
3:20:59
I'm like that's. What?
3:21:02
She goes in the. Corner now to.
3:21:04
Your bow. You know what's crazy too?
3:21:06
If you go look at Sam Brumfield when they was talking to him
3:21:10
when he was committing, they was asking him, you know, what made
3:21:14
you think Virginia Tech? And he kept saying I'm thinking
3:21:17
about life after football. And I think he was a fourth one
3:21:21
of those kids, too. You know what I'm saying?
3:21:23
When you Yeah, that's crazy. When you have leaders in your
3:21:27
program that think about stuff like that, it it does matter on
3:21:32
the field, but stuff like that matters as well.
3:21:34
So when you get high level character kids like that, your
3:21:38
program's going in the right direction.
3:21:40
So that's awesome, man. That's awesome to hear.
3:21:42
I didn't even know that, man. Yeah.
3:21:44
That's amazing. That's dope, that.
3:21:48
Is so dope. Hey.
3:21:48
Mama Jeremiah graduated I. Got to put him.
3:21:50
Out there, too, Jeremiah graduated Florida State last.
3:21:54
Yeah, he did. I saw that.
3:21:55
Yeah, he. Did shout out.
3:21:57
Jeremiah. Yeah, I told Kyrie that when I
3:22:00
saw him, I said, yo man, shout out to your brother, Bradley.
3:22:02
He looked at me. He was like, hey, you all over
3:22:05
the place. I say, dude, that's huge.
3:22:07
Don't think he's big. Hey, he was getting.
3:22:10
A lot of he was getting a lot of, a lot of in season shout
3:22:13
outs too, so I appreciate that he was he.
3:22:16
Was I appreciate. Jeremiah was getting a lot of
3:22:18
fucking accolades and that was amazing.
3:22:20
I love that, Yeah. We got, we got, we got to get.
3:22:24
We got to give Mama drones or flowers so she don't
3:22:39
jump on me. So 2 for two, man Virginia Tech
3:22:45
fans. Love, love themselves and
3:22:47
softballs. So we're we're in on that.
3:22:49
We are. Hey.
3:22:50
Man. That's that's right.
3:22:52
I'm. I'm gonna say something.
3:22:54
Yep, I'm wasting. Curtis.
3:22:56
No shit. Welcome.
3:22:59
Go ahead, Curtis. Go ahead, drunk Curtis.
3:23:01
Hey hey y'all. Y'all trying to get on my ass
3:23:04
out like. Kyle, let's laugh.
3:23:05
Let's. Laugh 'cause this time last
3:23:06
year, Curtis, I was like 1/5 of Evan White label into this
3:23:10
plastered. He was yeah, I was done.
3:23:12
I was done. I was done.
3:23:13
I had a great time. Tonight.
3:23:17
We have went three hours, 25 minutes, yeah.
3:23:23
Nobody. 'S going to listen to this whole
3:23:26
thing, you know? What they will, it's so.
3:23:29
Crazy, I'm telling you that, believe it or not.
3:23:30
We have a like. Kevin said we.
3:23:32
Going to chop in the screw, 50 people that.
3:23:34
Have not turned off tonight. That's.
3:23:37
Dope man. That's.
3:23:39
Fine, we got. 50 heads that have been hanging with us the whole
3:23:42
time. That's different.
3:23:44
That's. Different.
3:23:46
We got last year and we. Went.
3:23:49
We went less than this. Yep.
3:23:50
I'm feeling good, Chris. You have dealt two of those
3:23:55
tequilas down since I've been here.
3:23:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we go, if we go again, I
3:24:01
might have to finish this bottle.
3:24:02
Kevin Feeling. Good on the.
3:24:04
I'm good. Hey, Kevin.
3:24:06
Flex. It a little bit.
3:24:07
I like that. I like Kevin.
3:24:08
Flex it, Kevin, Brian, let me see what you done.
3:24:12
How much damage. I put away all the Donnies, man.
3:24:15
I put away all the Donnies. Some six teams tally, tally.
3:24:18
Let me see what you've done. I don't for.
3:24:21
A minute here. Did too bad.
3:24:23
Man, my boy has been talking about Tally.
3:24:29
They've been killing. Tally been killing.
3:24:34
The God damn, I finished a little bit.
3:24:40
Of that, Yeah, man, Robbie. Roddy, I'm having a good time.
3:24:45
Robert. He's always flexing on the new
3:24:48
beard man. He is the he with the beers is
3:24:52
like, fucking whatever. This is Brian.
3:24:54
You were doing the. Hardywood, right, I've been.
3:24:57
Rolling the. Hardywood I've got the Hardywood
3:24:59
and Son of the Universe I've been I've been repping Richmond
3:25:02
hard. Yeah, this is.
3:25:04
The Hardywood Christmas morning. So I had to do the Christmas.
3:25:06
I love Christmas. Morning, man.
3:25:09
Christmas. Morning is good shit, I've got
3:25:11
the the bourbon. GBS.
3:25:14
And then I've got the sin of the universe.
3:25:16
Donnie. Dude, those are some good.
3:25:18
Ones and old Granddad. You're drinking old Granddad.
3:25:21
Curtis. I thought I heard Curtis is
3:25:22
bringing old. Granddad man, follow me.
3:25:24
Back on Twitter, I'll. Highlight that old granddad.
3:25:26
That old granddad that turned him into my granddaddy.
3:25:29
Listen. Yeah, we.
3:25:31
Know. Gee, we see you, Kevin.
3:25:34
Yes, Sir, I. Appreciate y'all joining us.
3:25:36
PBI. Appreciate you.
3:25:37
Thank you. For having us thank you for.
3:25:39
Having us appreciate y'all. Joining us.
3:25:42
Robbie. Hey, I love you, man.
3:25:44
Second behind me in my wedding. Look, I love.
3:25:48
All y'all and it can't be understated how important Keelan
3:25:52
Adams and Kyron Jones are. This program they are.
3:25:56
God sends to the Hokie Nation, and they are not.
3:25:58
Take that for granted. We're not.
3:26:01
That wraps up this episode of the Boundary Corner Podcast with
3:26:06
myself, Curtis Wilson, Brian Siegler, Jonathan Calley, Robbie
3:26:10
Compton, Kevin Drones, Chris Lester, PB Dan from the Terra
3:26:19
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We. We swan baby.
3:26:27
We swan. I need one of.
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3:26:34
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3:26:42
It's been over 50. We just did.
3:26:45
Below 50. Damn y'all, why y'all got to go
3:26:47
below 50? We have been.
3:26:49
They know we're going to get. Off they're trying to go.
3:26:51
They're like. Y'all all drunk as shit.
3:26:53
We can't. They are correct.
3:26:55
Appreciate everybody joining us tonight.
3:26:58
Jeremy and Dwight, who had a hop off as always, let's go oh.
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Dee. The.