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Uh oh, the Bears might have an injury bug infestation · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Wendy city podcast presented by fan side that you know that man right there that is Alex Shapiro I am Kenneth Davis J.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hood did ask about you this week Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, he was like what's going on Alex?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex is good So shout out to hoodie check out that episode of under the trenches with hoodie and uh But we're over here to Wendy city pot and we're gonna talk about as Alex will put it uh ohs all right
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, some of her summertime vibes might be ending a little bit early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a tap at early, hopefully not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is really us coming back with of course the pads are on three full practices with pads this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had eight practices so far, the beloved, and they've been some injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where the elbows come in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Biggest one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, just mention nice to meet you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kobe Bryant, Super Bowl champ, bear safety, big time off season acquisition is out for eight to ten weeks, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking basically, round November, Halloween is when he could possibly return.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I think here we've talked at Nazium about
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's another guy still out too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's known factor in his in S. Kyla Gordon, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But talked about the durability of the defensive backfield, last season, and this is a crazy part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we distance the durability of the backfield, they weren't durable last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they still were one of the best turnover backfields within the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but they also had guys ahead, even if they hadn't played together because you look at brisker was out, uh, basically a year and a half, but they had been around each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had, they kind of knew one another's tendencies, um, and that's going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So these guys still were just learning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've heard Dylan Thineman talk about getting used to what Kobe Bryant does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a aspect that's going to be lacking now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, if you think about it, usually that guy that's going to be in a backfield, seeing everything and I'm referring to Kobe Bryant making sure everybody's in the right place, he's not going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, guys, he used to hear his voice, and how he likes to run his ship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's a huge issue, Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that this isn't a situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I guess,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope Springs Eternal, he didn't tear something, which is good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not out for the season as it be a tour as ACL, MCL are both are Maniscus, but still he's going to miss significant amount of time with the secondary that was already beliegared so far your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, the bears certainly avoid a worst case scenario, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: As you mentioned, tears, knee injuries can be so bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we could have been talking about a season ending injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not that, but it is super far from ideal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mainly because
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been kind of down on this defense already and the lack of additions that they made on the defensive line and the lack of the past rush and we're going to get to more lows on that a little bit later, but hey Kobe Bryant's here so yes, they lost a lot of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: guys who were ball hawks last year, Tremaine Edmonds, they lost Nishon right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost Kevin Byard, these guys who accounted for an incredible amount of interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, at least they got Kobe Bryant back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he should help replenish that turnover department, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now he might be gone for a quarter of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been talking about,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, are the bears going to need to score 40 points because the defense might not keep up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe now the bears are going to have to score 50 points a game over the first quarter of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it just makes, in my opinion, a weakness even weaker, which is not what you want to be happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think another under talks about thing,
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[SPEAKER_01]: rated bad part of this situation, and you touched on a little bit, still in Theoneman's development, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is your first round pick, and playing, you know, in the NFL, there is a learning curve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care how good you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a learning curve for a lot of players, and I think we expected Kobe Bryant to be a part of that development plant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You spoke to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't even learn from Kobe Bryant, learning about that communication from Kobe Bryant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Kobe Bryant's gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bear is number three, by the way, is also missing an action Elijah Hicks has been on pop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you're down to your safety four, Kim Lewis, who had been filling in a little bit at Nicola.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you got to move him around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lot of, a lot of moving parts to this, and you're rookie who you spent serious draft capital bringing in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This might impact his development.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This might mean Dylan Thineman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a slower start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: then maybe Burris fans would have hoped because of he could hit the ground run in because he's had this phenomenal training camp with Kobe Bryant one of the best in the biz and now he's you know just flying around week one that's great but now maybe he'll be flying around week six week seven as you know he continues to develop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's a multifaceted I think it's a multifaceted issue for the Burris here with Kobe Bryant missing a significant chunk of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, and this is something that we've talked about in the past, I, okay, this is just my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe with the injury history of Kyla Gordon, they were trying to factor that in what they were doing with this defensive backfield through the draft for free.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I mean by that is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Denis Allen and of course Ben Johnson wanted this defensive backfield to be versatile as you know what you know what I'm saying like not a guy this guy's just this guy is that we could move these guys around and we can gain plan with these guys you know I'm saying like okay we got this safety we got dealing with the enemy we're not afraid about him or Kobe Bryant having to match up with a team that has a really nice tight in that's a pass catching tight in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, saying, or, you know, a Dylan, we've got to kind of, we're kind of in a base, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe we need to have, maybe we need to be in a fourth or base because this team is a really strong running team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in some sets, we're going to kind of need you to kind of shade over the nickel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, stuff in that, that way, and then when I'm saying, of course, they wouldn't be in the nickel, but I'm saying, of course, if the opposing teams has triplets or something out there, you're looking for him to be able, you know, to help you and provide with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the problem with that now is it's frustrating to them I would think because Kobe Brian is out and you would probably like we don't know where we're going to get from Kyla Gordon, but now you kind of got to show your back against the wall because I mean, doc, he was their big acquisition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let, like, he was the guy, this wasn't like an afterthought or he was a third free agent they bought in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was like, okay, like, doc, we thought Kevin Bire was going to be back here for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like the bears wanted him back here too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, dude, let's, yeah, you know, and that just in the time and of him signing the contract shows that they were in the mix for a minute before it was like, okay, they're not gonna come up and meet me here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think because of what I've done for that organization, I deserve it, they don't want to give it to me alcohol over here because I haven't put in the sweat equity that I did over here, particularly coming off the season that year at last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, age is fact they're in, but he had a tremendous season and his Hall of Fame career speaking of Kevin Barrett last season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what hurts the most about, I think both things, what you said as far as dealing with the minimum, we both about dealing with the minimum, getting used to what he needs to do and getting caught up fast within the NFL and the speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but also it takes away from the versatility because perhaps whoever's going to replace them if it's Cam Louis or Hicks is healthy and you want to move him over, they may not be able to do the myriad of things that Kobe Bryant could do with all the different positions in the defensive backfield that he played while he was a Seattle sea hog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, should we have a fraction Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, um, Braxton Jones has been getting majority of the reps at left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the remainder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Korean argument dodgy argument dodgy was getting the rest of I don't know why I'm the worst thing is the last couple years I've gotten worse that I used to stick names like it was nothing age If I was getting the wrong defeat it, it's yeah undefeated as you know it Brockton Jones it came back and he's been given him close to what they asked allegedly reading and I don't I don't know if it was Brad Biggs
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heming or Phil Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll show him in a Phil Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was bruising the trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't check the author.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize But it was they were they were breaking down how Raksan Jones was getting frustrated with Austin book of getting in that you know what and the decided to go punch in Some padded part of football equipment and after that he had to go and get checking out But it's not as bad as it could have been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still wonder what could it have been and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if he's not her for a protracted a little amount of time, fine, all right, I'm happy you got that passion in you, you know you there's a standard that you were even trying to live it because the bears need you to do that you don't I'm saying, yeah, if you're out for a decent amount of time, Brexit with the hell is you doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I get it, but they need you so bad, bro, like, man, left tack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he looks, Braxton Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I bet Braxton Jones knows better than anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, bear's fans with one of the left tackles for forever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he has to know from losing his job, the need of left tackles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just a little frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Promptures, of course, it's not sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more frustrating for that young man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I hope it's a short amount of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually interested, Alex, to see,
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[SPEAKER_00]: for an extended amount of time, him playing on the Long-Side Jail Thunney.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To be honest with you, I really want to see they compliment each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if having a Hall of Fame guard next to Braxton shows a significant increase in his efficiency at left,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely and just my understanding because I was trying to follow along with what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My understanding is that he got beat on a one-on-one drill and that's when he got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got hurt during the drill and then he threw his helmet because he was pissed he got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is a Lamar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this is a Lamar Houston situation where he was celebrating a sack down 30 points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you didn't just go to Mar Houston only.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to go back to the classic getting hurt in a completely meaningless fashion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he got hurt in the one on one drill and then like through his helmet and got pissed because he was like, I know I'm hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my understanding of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll, so let me make sure I give the props.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was from all three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I did do the properly is all three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So coach Ben Johnson wanted to turn up the intensity after a short session the day before and it bears a conscious that with the inside run drill period extended from 11 to 11 periods.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jones was shaken up in a one on one pass for a drill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was upset after being.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pushed back by defensive men, Austin Book on the first rep, he took out his frustration, punches and passing, padding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's around in the camera location.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After a second rep against Booker Jones was visibly irritated and emotional, offensive line coach Dan Rochard visited him briefly, Jones pays for a while, attempted a few more placets and then he went inside how it's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he was pissed that he got hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what's really tragic about this to be honest is
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[SPEAKER_01]: The injury, the ankle injury is what kept Braxton Jones from playing to the fullest of his ability last season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he had this, the pretty devastating ankle injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was clear throughout the year last year that
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, to me, it seemed like he didn't trust the ankle that there was still a little bit of hesitancy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't the full trust, there wasn't the full get off, the full drive that you would normally see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that obviously impacted his performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now the thought was, okay, sign a one-year deal, this guy's healthy now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what he can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: healthy next to Joe Tuney, like you said, with more, just more time in the oven, more reps, more everything, and then an injury again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, Courtney Cronen, Brad Biggs, both reporting that
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it's not a significant injury, shouldn't miss a ton of time, but if it goes back to that same issue last year where it's like, okay, he's good enough to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's nursing this thing and he's not playing to the best of his capabilities then you're falling into that same pitfalls last season or there's the potential for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is a shame because then it turns into the left tackle carousel that we saw last season and I don't think anybody wants that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody just wants this is the Chicago Bears left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy won the job.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson Jones won the job or Jesrick Willes won the job and by all accounts, Jackson Jones was the front runner over training camp, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesrick Willes
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taking turns, as that number two guy, but it really looked like Braxton Jones was getting the lion's share of the first team reps. Now it's like, who the hell knows?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now is it gonna be Will's?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it gonna be a Magaji to steal Benedict Reenter this mix?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, it's just not what you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's raining camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's these are not the things you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And injuries are inevitable, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to happen, but this left tackle position just feels like it's been cursed for this team for so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And last year, listen, they were able to work around it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it seems like he avoided a significant injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, it's not a huge, huge issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, it's just another like, oh, here we go again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Braxton Jones isn't 100% Braxton Jones might not be able to play
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[SPEAKER_01]: his full potential, which is what, like, literally all parties needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bracks and Jones needed this for his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bearers need it because they need a starting left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're starting left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, the silver lining in this is the fact that they have a strong office of law.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that has been something they haven't really had since.
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[SPEAKER_00]: name, whatever year I'll improve was here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe a year after that, it was still kind of good when the guard moved the center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot the young man's name now, who moved the center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody, why here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, this was the Latin dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Kate from Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what his name was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Roberto Garza.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Garza, shout out to Garza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they still kind of had a decent line with burrows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When Olin left for New Orleans,
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's been a minute and they actually have a pretty good line, so again, and we've talked about this and you've heard it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It used to be what holds you going to fill in the office of line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about in the near future, so I got paid it right, but you got, listen, right now, Jonah Jackson is, it's looks much more like Detroit, Jonah, than Rams, Jonah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Center, it will be solved one way or another, hopefully with Garrett Bradbury, he last has a good season, but if not, maybe Logan Jones will be inserted, at least you got a guy back there in case anything happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a Hall of Famer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lime under the year basically last year when Tomo Jelthoony and then you got just one spot and the past we had spots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you had Darnell Wright not living up to the be in drip draft where he was at regardless of how you feel that's any wasn't good at times, but it wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't that it wasn't last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it wasn't all pro and then you had holes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like that was basically, oh, I'm in supply.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't I don't know right in holes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now doger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember the Dakota doger era.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I live for the Dakota doger era.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's Nate Davis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to start a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, don't bring up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, you know you're trying to make people make Davis.
16:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to elevate everybody's blood pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that made Davis one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, uh, you want to elevate your blood pressure to the five points.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about Lucas Patrick?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're making me, you, you know what you're making me do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're making me question, or okay, I guess it makes me think about mistakes that ramps me in person now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I interest you in a little germina fettie?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not germina fettie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, I mean, just think, but honestly, though, just think about the band aids that we're trying to cover up these wounds of that they were trying to do to make sense because the powder was being kept dry for no particular reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When we've always been like, you need this, you need office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you look at how different this team is with the really good offense in life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, it's night and day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mayor's offensive line last year being good, not just solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Being good, the run game came alive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Caleb Williams and Caleb Williams deserves some credit for this, but a lot of the credit comes up front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second numbers came way down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was time for Caleb Williams to get creative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was time for long developing plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It all starts up front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you are right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm being doom and gloom with the left tackle thing, but you're right from left guard to right tackle their solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's better than most teams can say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's better than what it's been here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, this isn't just gonna be the murky dismal show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are still some good things when it comes to this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also please chat, please remind us of all the names we've forgotten.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That go next to Dakota dozier that go next to your main Affetti that go next to I've already gotten them out of my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember the Larry the Larry boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's working here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remembrance and smoke came in and it was like, oh, no, you're not good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you and I were so dark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heaven's Jenkins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tevin Jenkins and the hype was so real with Tevin Jenkins and then the back, you know, the arrow was pointing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The arrow was pointing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The arrow was pointing up on the back and then bam, I are crash arrow was, but it pointed too high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It went to the sun and then they were Icarus and they fell to earth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tevin Jenkins, boy, do I remember?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was, I mean, he wasn't good at either position that you brought back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't a good center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't a good guard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He showed why he was a super sub.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you thought you can make him into a starter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, Roger Spiss and Money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you know, you can't be like, I won't, I won't agree based castoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not the way to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, with the organization that usually does everything through the draft, you probably should be like, I, yeah, let me get that up out of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they are like, yeah, we can replace that guy for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we have months as
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, months as sweat was getting the business from said, Donnell Wright, I think you beat him in three reps. And one on one is that, I know, I have served him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The youngsters out here serve in people right now, when you look at Donnell Wright, Austin Booker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
20:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and again, you know of the importance of Montes wet.
20:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so hopefully he's not being up for an extended amount of time.
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem like it.
20:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but again, this is camp.
20:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like regardless of the fact that these players nowadays stay in shape for the most part states closer there playing shape for the most part.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: They still have not been banging on
20:51
[SPEAKER_00]: wrestling other dudes after hike since last year.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like not at the consistent basis.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that they do some things and with their all season training.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: But it hasn't been to the level that is getting when you're talking about pads are on and guys are going at each other.
21:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, let's remember this, in OTAs and everything, these guys are in shells.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, these guys, they're in pads, going at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is different from what they've been doing.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see with your left tackle and your highest rated defensive end that these things, these issues can take place.
21:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And fortunate for the guys that it doesn't seem like either one will be gone for a decent amount of time.
21:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I still, I don't know if the we've already talked about, I hate it here in Annabelle,
21:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just, and this is a thing too, that's why I, this like, and I'll say, Mr. J.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hood, a lot of times, particularly those players don't come back, like, they're trying to rush back during the season.
21:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not really the same player because they mean for the most part, they're about his cardio is going to be gone.
21:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to say, like, his, he might have to be on this account for a bit.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, he's not going to be in the, he was proculating to get ready for the season.
22:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Now he has to do rehab, strengthen that whatever that part, lower lower butt leg injury that he has.
22:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He has to do all of that to get back to where he was trying, where he was at right now.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one asking a lot, but hey, they get paid a lot, but still, and that's, that's the problem I really have with it is, dang it, what's he going to be like when he gets back?
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And the last thing you want is, again, Chicago, if you prove it will, will forgive you.
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, it'll be, if he doesn't play, when he gets back and throw the remade of the season, he doesn't play at a certain level.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be mentioned.
22:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're smart enough to know what I'll do was, her, it'll take the next year.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll have to show out.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's going to have to show.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, he could come back and kill.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong.
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get it twisted.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He could come back and kill.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: but usually it doesn't happen like that hopefully it does and he plays like a man with his hair on fire, but that's really where it's like man, that's messed up because it's same to like even with Kyle Gordon's injuries, you had solved a lot of the issues in the defense of backfill for years to come.
23:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, that still is the thing, as long as he's not injury prone,
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Phenomen, Bryant Johnson is the name of my law firm, or should be Johnson, Phenomen, Bryant, Johnson, Bryant, Phenomen, you know, because I don't need jailing to run up on me in the streets.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I put some respect to my name.
23:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he comes for his first share.
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It comes for us.
23:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It comes for it.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He deservedly accounts first.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, that's just the thing that it makes me sad to think about the him being out and extended.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're right.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, absolutely value concerns, right?
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: as he's rehabbing, if he's able to, he'll be on the bikes, beyond the bikes, doing the cardio, but it's not the same as playing football and thudding people and call us to your body, call us in your legs like that's not the same.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be in the class, but that's not the same as being on the grass and actually walking it through and actually taking the reps, actually talking with your teammates,
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[SPEAKER_01]: these things that you can do.
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Mental wraps are just mental wraps.
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The bike is just the bike, and it's not, it's not the same.
24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I wanted more bars.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt you could have given us more.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you could have rammed more of that.
24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think after you dropped that first.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt that was pretty good.
24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that's why you had to keep going.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you saw something.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got to keep you had to keep going to the fellow fellas.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to keep going.
24:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to believe in yourself.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, listen, we've mentioned it to, um, Bears hit coach Ben Johnson was asked for a update or a college Johnson a paraphrase in and it was basically, Tyler Gordon.
24:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Kyle Gordon.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was, there, there's no update.
24:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh.
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would love to see Kyle going back on the field for, but for the remainder of the season, but again, they do not notice player.
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm talking about the coaches on this staff.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And at certain point, your past history means nothing if you can't help me right now with what I'm trying to do.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a hefty little nickel bill.
25:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't imagine he's on a thin ice.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a hefty little nickel bag contract.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You cut them my guy.
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I could use some of that on the other side of, I can draw you more I can draft that, right?
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: If my court and my coach don't want to go offensive right receiver for the first five rounds, you know I can draft it.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we got to pay a quarterback and a wide receiver one pretty quickly.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: If that wide receiver one turns out to be a wide receiver one this year, those are a couple contracts coming up all of these kinds of, I mean, listen, it'll be here sooner or later, and it's the great that they're on their rookie contracts, it particularly think this too, if they're playing well, all right, because now you go other other people like, yo, you know, you come over here, I get y'all, this Brit, you don't have to pay.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Coastal Luther burden there there's you know they're only year two so there's I know there's a little time for them to cook but I mean Caleb and Caleb and Rome are coming up and you know they're going to have fifth your options which pushes kicks the can down a row for a little bit but that bill That bill accelerates awfully quickly and then it's all of a like you said I mean like if Caleb Williams continues to be Caleb Williams.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to reset the market in some category or some category.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to receive resetting the market If there have to be a question of picking up their fifth-year option then these contract numbers we're talking about I'm going to be as fast because these guys will get signed in year four particularly Caleb Sure Caleb will get signed next year because think about right now.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Brexit's in the numbers and don't know is entering year four Right he's entering year four
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: when he was drafted in 2022.
27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I believe something about how long ago is that we were on air when you got drafted.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We were.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We were doing a live show for NBC Sports Chicago.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: To be honest, I don't remember what year it was.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I looked.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, right, wiki.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, like again, like,
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to move money around.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It, it, it, it, it, it, it won't be saying about you.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: J, more at this time.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: This three.
27:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That was 23.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Three.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:39
[SPEAKER_00]: 23.
27:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So think about that.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't wait.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the price only goes up and up and up and up and up.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The price only goes up and up and up and up.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where we're saying that.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the same thing we talked about these guys on year three that, hey, for all snaps this year, right?
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's going to be Caleb then Rome, and it's going to be Caleb and Rome
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But right, I mean, we're having this conversation about DJ Moore last year, just like, hmm, that contract is a little empty for a DJ Moore.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, there's some guys behind you that this is what I'm feeling for Kyla Gordon right now.
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even a question.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, bro, listen, I don't go give me, I don't go give me a nickel in the second.
28:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Or like, I'm giving me a nickel in the second, right?
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I might be able to try to get in the third, you know, I'm saying, but I can give me a nickel in, I mean, man, like, this, well, he's been her since he's been a bear, but man, since you got that brain.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I hate patin' your pot.
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish the best for Kyle Gordon, cause I don't think Kyle Gordon is doing his own purpose.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm going to nobody's trying to get hurt.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me steal this.
28:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think that's I think his body isn't where he needs to be.
28:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to let me say this and this is my opinion.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if I should say there is a level of this is the new reality of where your body is going to be and what can you get out of it?
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it how the bears of you and this and he's just viewing it like and he could be viewing it as I know it's not ready for me to really go out there and it can do it to do more harm than
29:12
[SPEAKER_00]: more harm than you don't do those flips them all too like when you if you get neck neck I sit at the back and I always thought that was a bad idea all right I always are used to always thought I'm bringing them up again I know I always thought I was like you know kid it that that's a lot on your body after you just probably just got an interception you ran it back your body and the oxygen's low and then you you spider-man and just relax a little bit you gotta do it all right
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: anything goes to forget out here.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Time for an extra point.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You can all right.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I got an extra point.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: My extra point is the wonderful reunion of the greatest rock band on planet earth.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That is rush.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I was fortunate enough to see rush when they returned to the United Center and honestly,
30:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It was everything I hoped it would be and more.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I was raised on rush.
30:09
[SPEAKER_01]: My father and my uncle are both progressive rock fans.
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know this about me, Kenneth.
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I like weird, progressive guitar music.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are the kings.
30:20
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are the kings.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They're Canadians, right?
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They are Canadians.
30:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They are from our friendly neighbors to the north.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Unbelievable power trio.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And for a long time, it seemed like Rush would never play again because their drummer Neil Peer, like the most tragic life of all time this guy, lost his daughter, lost his wife, had this horrible cancer that was incredibly painful.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So the point where he just went off the grid for like many years, just,
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: just motorcycling around trying to find himself and he would like apparently write the guys from rush like every few months, maybe once a year, just be like, hey, I'm alive.
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: See you later.
31:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He unfortunately died.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He passed away from his terrible cancer and rushers just like we can't be rushed without Neil Peart.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Until I heard a story that apparently they were
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And Sir Paul McCartney convinced them, you guys are performers, you guys are rock stars, you got to be rock stars again.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So they got a replacement a woman and a caniles and she was spectacular the absolute.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect fill-in for Neil, nobody can replace Neil Peart, but she did a damn good job.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: She hit all the fills, Tom Sawyer, she crushed it.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: She had them all together.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It is not an easy task, drumming for Rush.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: They are extremely complicated, weird, just technical songs, technical.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And they still got it.
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Getty Lee, the false seto.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: The falsetto of all falsettos still got it.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex Lifeson, guitarist, still got it, and it was just an absolute delight to watch the three of them.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: have clearly so much fun on stage.
32:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And be like, yes, we're back.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where we belong.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This is our happy place.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They did a wonderful tribute to Neil.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And the show was just unbelievable.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: The night I went, they did not play my two favorite songs.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Or at least my favorite song is the trees, missed the trees.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so you know what, they kept me wanting more if they come back.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going back because I got to chase the trees now, but I mean my goodness, um, what an absolute joy.
32:50
[SPEAKER_01]: What an absolute celebration of rock and roll.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: What an absolute celebration of one of the biggest legends.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: in rock music history and I just feel very fortunate and grateful that I was able to witness three people having so much fun at the absolute top of their craft.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It delivered on every single level.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know Rush, I encourage you to get into Rush because as I said at the beginning, they're simply the best rock band of all time.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Rush, for reuniting and thank you for putting on a wonderful show.
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Greatest Brockman of all time.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: All time, baby.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
33:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, who'd you go with?
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I went with my father and my uncle so this was that's why I asked to see if you went with them.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
33:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very cool.
33:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was like also really cool to share that with them, you know, my uncle's telling me stories.
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, 10 times and oh, when I saw him at, you know, this, you will buy and they did this, that and the other thing and I saw him here and I saw him there and, you know, trading all these stories and then to also share that show.
33:56
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and they were just so on point they again they were like so on point it was unbelievable these guys are all the cockers right these are old dudes there are a couple of old dudes and now this young woman with them but like you wouldn't be able to tell that this guy is like i think like seventy eight years old he's dancing around stage hopping around there having a blast the out the cockers still got it they still got father time in this in this case
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Father time is defeated.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Rush rush rush is staving off Father time.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, full of ibuprofen.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you this week for joining us here on the win the city pod was in about fan side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will be back to break down a big contract.