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Love and Rockets Book Club #71 - V2 #1 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

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Marisol: Yep.
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Tad Eggleston: Good morning, everybody! Welcome back to the Love & Rockets Book Club on 22 Panels. I'm joined by Maria Pena from
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Tad Eggleston: Malta still?
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Tad Eggleston: Malta. I just know that you're going to be traveling elsewhere soon, so I wanted to make certain… Malta still?
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Tad Eggleston: And Marisol is on Zoom with me, but actually, like, she's the person that's on most regularly that I probably could arrange to be in the same room to record with. You know, we're both in the Chicago suburbs.
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Tad Eggleston: I don't know if either of you, have been paying attention to,
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Tad Eggleston: my wife has taken over the 22 Panels Instagram, so we now have, like, a real Instagram presence and, like, graphics and stuff, and the graphics she made for Love and Rockets
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Tad Eggleston: Plugged us is recorded from three continents.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, great. Oh, wait a minute, what's the third continent?
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Tad Eggleston: Well, it depends on which continent you're on.
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Maria Pena: Oh, okay.
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Tad Eggleston: We're not recorded from 3 continents at any given
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Tad Eggleston: day, but throughout the book club…
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Maria Pena: We've been in, yeah, we've been in Australia, continent, now we're in New York.
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Tad Eggleston: Right.
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Tad Eggleston: The other thing I was gonna bring up, because I actually went through and numbered all of the… I've been cleaning up our, like, episode tags and whatnot. Do you want to guess how many book clubs we've had?
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Tad Eggleston: And Marisol, I think you've been around for, if not all of them, like, all but one or two that I did with Maria and not you.
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Tad Eggleston: when Johnny and Andy were still showing up more.
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Marisol: Yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: But.
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Maria Pena: How many?
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Tad Eggleston: Anybody want to guess how many we've had?
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Maria Pena: Oh, God.
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Maria Pena: I have no idea. Probably.
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Maria Pena: Six… Better.
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Marisol: Double digits? I don't know.
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Tad Eggleston: Well, of course it's double digits. We had 50… 50 issues of… Of…
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: The, the first Lovin' Rockets…
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Maria Pena: Yeah, so it must be a random.
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Marisol: That's fine.
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Maria Pena: 17.
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Tad Eggleston: We have had 70.
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Maria Pena: Exactly.
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Marisol: Thank God.
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Tad Eggleston: We've had 70…
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Marisol: I don't know if we'd hit…
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Tad Eggleston: pockets.
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Maria Pena: Only one recorded, er, one released out of order.
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Tad Eggleston: Because somehow, Issue 47.
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Tad Eggleston: had lingered around, and I realized that it wasn't there after we put up our first… our talk with Beto. Like, where's 47?
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Tad Eggleston: That was actually our.
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Marisol: 40.
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Tad Eggleston: 8.
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Marisol: Read.
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Tad Eggleston: recording.
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Marisol: True.
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Tad Eggleston: Because there was one issue that, for time constraints, we split into two.
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Tad Eggleston: I had completely forgotten that until I was going through.
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Tad Eggleston: But, yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: So yeah, this is our 71st meeting.
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Tad Eggleston: Of the Love & Rocket Sport Club.
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Tad Eggleston: Which is just, like, crazy cool to me.
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Tad Eggleston: We have a book club that's gotten together this morning.
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Maria Pena: your staying power.
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Tad Eggleston: That's right! And we jump into Love and Rockets.
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Marisol: Number 1.
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Tad Eggleston: Volume 2, I love this cover.
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Maria Pena: Yes, it's.
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Marisol: Gorgeous.
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Maria Pena: So back to… sold back to the original 11 rockets covering, but with All Maggie.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, only all men.
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Maria Pena: Yeah. Mechanics, Maggie.
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Tad Eggleston: Right.
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Maria Pena: Teenage Muggie, Maggie.
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Maria Pena: And all the others.
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Tad Eggleston: Wrestling manager Maggie.
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Tad Eggleston: Drunk man.
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Marisol: Yep.
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Maria Pena: Drunk Maggie. Long-haired Maggie.
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Maria Pena: Naked, in a.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, hiding her nudity, Maggie.
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Tad Eggleston: And actually, this starts off…
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Tad Eggleston: with my all-time favorite Maggie image.
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Maria Pena: That is gorgeous.
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Tad Eggleston: I just…
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Tad Eggleston: like, it's the epitome of Maggie, because, like, even as we go through this, she's not actually in one of her best spots, but Maggie, no matter… no matter what else is…
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Tad Eggleston: going on? Has that ability?
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Tad Eggleston: to… Steal moments for herself.
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Tad Eggleston: I have no idea what she's thinking about here, but, like, you know that she's just, like.
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Tad Eggleston: I'm closing my eyes and thinking of something that makes me smile, and then I'm gonna have to face the world again.
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Maria Pena: She's feeling the sun on her face.
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Tad Eggleston: Right.
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Maria Pena: Is that easy?
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Marisol: a moment.
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Maria Pena: Easy's home.
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Maria Pena: Is that EZ's house, or… or is it…
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Tad Eggleston: Might be.
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Tad Eggleston: But it might be Maggie's, too.
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Maria Pena: Yes.
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Tad Eggleston: It's actually probably Maggie's. I don't think she's moved into the apartment complex yet.
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Maria Pena: Yep.
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Maria Pena: And.
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Tad Eggleston: But yeah, that's… that's, that's… that's one of the… the…
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Tad Eggleston: defining features of Maggie to me, is that…
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Tad Eggleston: She's not always optimistic, she's not always happy.
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Tad Eggleston: But she's never incapable of moments of joy.
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Marisol: Right.
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Maria Pena: Yes, yes.
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Tad Eggleston: And that's… that's, like, a real thing. There are lots of people who, like, go through the shit Maggie goes through, and, like.
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Tad Eggleston: Can't find joy at all.
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Maria Pena: Hmm.
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Tad Eggleston: You know… I mean, very next page, like…
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Tad Eggleston: when she's having to call Julie Rhee, you know, she looks about as down as you can possibly be. Really? Yeah. Do I have to do this?
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Maria Pena: And she's… This is an option.
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Maria Pena: She's having a nap during the day, so I don't know whether she was in a very good.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this…
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Tad Eggleston: Well, and it could be between jobs. I mean, we haven't gotten a clear, clear…
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Tad Eggleston: picture of where Maggie is in her life. I mean, she's certainly, first thing, she's going to the bar to see Hopi.
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Maria Pena: He's drinking a little bit.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: And they have a little, a little.
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Marisol: Little moment together in the bathroom.
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Maria Pena: Okay, in the bathroom, which is.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, until she says Julie Rhee.
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Maria Pena: Yes.
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Maria Pena: So, Julie Rhee wants Easy to appear in her TV show.
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Maria Pena: And I hope he's not happy about it. And
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Maria Pena: And then… so then Easy stays at Maggie's, and that… that was very strange, like…
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Tad Eggleston: It does not grow, but does… does have night screaming.
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Tad Eggleston: Yes. These are some great panels, too.
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Maria Pena: They fancy.
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Marisol: That's too bad, is that one.
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Tad Eggleston: I was just out at CXC,
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Tad Eggleston: Cartoon's Crossroads Columbus, and one of the exhibits at the Billy Ireland right now is called Motion Lines, and it's just all about, like, motion and comics, and I don't remember if there was any…
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Tad Eggleston: Jaime on the wall, but… but, like, this one would fit so perfectly. The screen…
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Marisol: Oh, yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: You just see Maggie speak.
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Marisol: With, like, the rocket. Just a launch into the air?
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Tad Eggleston: Right?
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Maria Pena: Yeah, launching off the panel into the ether, yeah, from the.
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Tad Eggleston: Right.
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Maria Pena: And it surprised me when I said, I was like, oh shit, what's going on?
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Tad Eggleston: Right.
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Marisol: Oh my god.
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Maria Pena: Oh…
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Tad Eggleston: The, the, the, the launch, the launch of the feet up is just…
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Maria Pena: Annie?
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Maria Pena: Yeah, and each…
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Tad Eggleston: For that matter, he's…
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Maria Pena: Goes through various, panels.
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Tad Eggleston: I don't bring up his lettering a lot.
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Tad Eggleston: And I probably should a little bit more, but, like, the way he does the screaming and the Maggie screaming over the screaming in these panels is just…
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Tad Eggleston: Brilliant.
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Maria Pena: Yes, pure comic book, you know. Right. The language of comic book, like, a real, mastery of it, yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: Even the slam there at the end, when she slams the door in between battles.
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Maria Pena: Great.
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Marisol: That's just… So funny, the pause and the scream, and then picking it back up again.
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Tad Eggleston: Right, right.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, yes, when…
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Tad Eggleston: Well, she needs to stop for breath.
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Marisol: Yep.
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Maria Pena: to stop, and easy stops, just for a moment.
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Marisol: starts again, and then Maggie flings back into some furniture.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: No, I mean, this is, yeah, it's a, it's like a masterclass in, you know, how to convey stuff, sound, and… Yeah.
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Maria Pena: movement, sound, balloons, everything, all beautifully. And I love the way, Easy's, hair just blends into that, that shadow there.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
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Maria Pena: Fantastic. That's great.
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Tad Eggleston: And then we've got the Julie Rhee show, which, oh my god…
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Maria Pena: What the hell was that? Like, they're all talking crap about… like, like, they're… like, friends…
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Maria Pena: just talking about crap, and they don't even look at EZ.
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Tad Eggleston: No, and, and the statistics?
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Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, with.
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Tad Eggleston: percentage of people in Encino wear sunglasses?
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Maria Pena: 42%, yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: Let's, let's have the bikini-clad woman walk across with a percentage.
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Maria Pena: What's… what's the… what's that girl's name?
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Tad Eggleston: That's, frogmouth? I forget. Frogmouth, yeah. Her real name.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, Violet? No.
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Marisol: Anyway…
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Tad Eggleston: Violence sounds right, actually.
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Maria Pena: V, it starts with a V. I don't know if it's Violet.
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Tad Eggleston: Vivian.
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Maria Pena: Vivian, that's right.
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Maria Pena: Vivian, yeah. Yeah, that was the weirdest… is that because at the time, it was the era of cable TV and.
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Tad Eggleston: I think so, I think it was the era of cable access, and there were definitely some, like… dumb…
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Maria Pena: shows.
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Tad Eggleston: That would have… that would have serious, like, local fandoms.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, I guess it's the equivalent of having a YouTube channel. Right.
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Tad Eggleston: Right, very similar.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, I never went through that.
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Tad Eggleston: And I just, I felt so bad for Maggie, who, like, was there only because…
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Maria Pena: Izzy had said, I'm not.
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Tad Eggleston: going without you, and then it turns out that Julie had seen her and was pissed as hell that she was there.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, it humiliates, or…
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Tad Eggleston: And impressed with the fact that, like, Izzy… Izzy's like, oh, I put you through that.
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Tad Eggleston: Because I don't know if that's something that I would have expected Izzy to…
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Maria Pena: No, that's right.
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Tad Eggleston: get upset about But maybe finally getting that book… I mean, Izzy's an interesting…
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Tad Eggleston: Character that we learn so much about through snapshots.
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Tad Eggleston: You know, every once in a while, she gets her own story, flies on the ceiling, or… you know. So we know… we know about…
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Tad Eggleston: her going to Mexico, her failed marriage and kid involved in that, and yeah, the abortion, and…
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Tad Eggleston: We know Happy Izzy, and we know Crazy Izzy, and…
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Tad Eggleston: You know, we know that she's kind of a writer all through it.
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Tad Eggleston: Like… I… I would love to get…
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Tad Eggleston: more is E. And I know we get some more over…
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Tad Eggleston: coming issues in years, but she hasn't really been a focus lately, which is not terrible.
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Marisol: Oh, because…
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Tad Eggleston: He's had cool focuses in.
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Marisol: New books, too.
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Tad Eggleston: A couple of characters that we haven't met yet, who have become major, major characters.
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Tad Eggleston: But, like… Izzy… has…
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Tad Eggleston: it's, like, amazing that Izzy never feels like her character is wrong, because you can easily imagine how she has changed since that previous Izzy that you've seen.
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Tad Eggleston: You know, you get just enough clues to go, okay, this is… this is not the Izzy that threw them out of the house and was…
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Tad Eggleston: blah blah blah, or this is not the Izzy that was putting all of the… the…
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Tad Eggleston: The… the milk cartons on the wall, you know,
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Tad Eggleston: And this is still an Izzy that makes sense, but at the same time, we just have so many gaps in how you get there.
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Marisol: Yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: You know… Whereas with Maggie and Hopi.
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Tad Eggleston: with Maggie and Hopi, we, like, see all of their changes, and with, like, Julie Rhee and… and… I'm forgetting the names of so many of their other friends.
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Tad Eggleston: Right. They, they just… they don't actually seem to change that much.
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Maria Pena: No, I mean, jewelry is still the same airhead. Right. there was one more theme in this, in this, story, which was that everybody's always asking about Hopi. Oh, Hopi was so cool, and Hopi this. Yeah, yeah. And, you know.
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Tad Eggleston: Well, and, and you know.
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Maria Pena: It affects Maggie a little bit.
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Tad Eggleston: after the time at the bar, where, like, Hopi with the eyepatch, being the badass, and…
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Maggie being the day drinker.
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Tad Eggleston: like…
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: That's… that's such an interesting… dichotomy to then have everybody asking about Hopi.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, and even easy, even easy goes, I should have put you in the book, not Hopi, instead of the.
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Tad Eggleston: Right.
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Maria Pena: chapter about Hobie. Right.
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Tad Eggleston: You should have dedicated the chapter to you, not Hopi.
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Maria Pena: That's right, yeah.
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Marisol: Hmm.
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Tad Eggleston: I know.
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Tad Eggleston: Well, and this goes back to what I know I've said a number of times, and I think it's kind of… Maggie's the rock, and Hopi's the wild child.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: He's the one that takes care of everybody, and Hopi's the one that everybody loves.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, she's the one that makes that impression, and Maggie's a bit in the background.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
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Maria Pena: But I think Maggie…
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Marisol: Related to Hokie.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: But I think Maggie, Maggie… has,
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Maria Pena: You know, inspired more, deeper love from…
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Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.
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Maria Pena: Like, people are obsessed with Maggie, you know? Like, whoever's obsessed with Maggie are obsessed with her.
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Tad Eggleston: Obsessed with Maggie.
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Tad Eggleston: I'm one of those people. I'm obsessed.
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Tad Eggleston: Hope he's cool, but… but, like.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, exactly.
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Tad Eggleston: Maggie is one of my favorite characters in all of comics.
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Maria Pena: And she looks so beautiful in that, in that, third, the shot, and then…
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Tad Eggleston: She looks beautiful in every shape.
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Maria Pena: Fair.
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Tad Eggleston: has ever been in. I, I don't, I don't care…
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Tad Eggleston: I don't care if she's supposed to be fat, or supposed to be skinny, or whatever. I don't think he's ever drawn Maggie in a way that I don't think she's fucking gorgeous.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, she's gorgeous.
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Maria Pena: Totally.
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Tad Eggleston: It's very huggable.
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Tad Eggleston: Always…
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Maria Pena: Internationally.
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Tad Eggleston: pokeable.
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Maria Pena: Very.
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Marisol: Meh.
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Maria Pena: Fond of her.
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Marisol: Very friend-shaped.
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Tad Eggleston: Then our Q&A about where they came back, that we talked about a little bit off the air.
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Tad Eggleston: I love it. It turns out that essentially they came back because Love & Rockets brings them in!
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Tad Eggleston: The title's a cursing a button at the same time, says Jaime.
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Maria Pena: Yes, because Gilbert complains that people weren't… weren't buying the other, you know, titles. You know, I mean, he sort of doesn't complain, but he kind of implies that.
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Tad Eggleston: He states the reality that, like, the other ones… Weren't selling as well.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: And there you go, so,
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Maria Pena: So, yeah, that was the most interesting kind of…
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Maria Pena: thing to glean from this Q&A.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Well, and as we said before, I get it, because there was something very, very…
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Tad Eggleston: comforting about coming back to 11 rockets.
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Tad Eggleston: having both Jaime and Beto in the same issue, different kinds of stories, without having to go track down different issues to have the different stories.
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Maria Pena: Again, spending all that money, man, on this extra COVID. I'll be honest.
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Tad Eggleston: Well, there's that, too, but, like, even.
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Maria Pena: I'm getting a…
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Tad Eggleston: Same amount of money, I…
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Tad Eggleston: Okay, this is one of those places where I'm gonna break for breaking news, just because this is something that we're gonna certainly be talking about next week on Love and Rockets. Trump has deployed troops to Portland, authorizing full force, if necessary.
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Tad Eggleston: For what I don't know…
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Maria Pena: Okay.
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Marisol: Yeah…
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Tad Eggleston: But I do… and, like, I probably wouldn't have brought it up if it was any other city.
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Tad Eggleston: But I remember at the end of… Trump's first term,
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Tad Eggleston: he kept insisting that Portland was on fire because of the… the…
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Tad Eggleston: the Black Lives Matter protests and whatnot, and, like, there's a huge comics community in Portland, so, like, comics Twitter at the time was just filled with people taking walks and going, this is Portland.
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Tad Eggleston: Do you see any fires? Nope.
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Tad Eggleston: And sometimes even walking down to the one place where there was a protest, and going, see? There's the protest, everything you're seeing on the news is in this angle, and then just turning around to go, see? There's nothing going on over there. It's just this block.
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Marisol: Oh, man.
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Maria Pena: Yeah, okay, yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: So yeah, that just put this episode in a time and place, and
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Tad Eggleston: Unless either of you have further comments, Move on, I just…
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Maria Pena: saying before, you know, every morning I wake up and I look at the news and go, what did he do today? What bullshit?
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: Something else.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. I'm saying everything but a way.
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Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, you know, like, in Malta or… Or…
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Tad Eggleston: Or when you're in Australia, you know, enough happens while you're asleep that, like, the first stories that happened while you were asleep…
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Tad Eggleston: are old news now. They're 7 stories down on… they're page 22 now, even though they happened this morning.
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Maria Pena: It's crazy.
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Tad Eggleston: Yeah, like, it happens way too fast to keep a hold of… keep track of.
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Marisol: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Tad Eggleston: So, yeah. Yeah, yeah, just centering us in reality for a moment before moving on to what is probably my
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Tad Eggleston: Favorite.
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Tad Eggleston: Beto non-Luba family story.
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Maria Pena: I thought you were gonna say the non-story, because it was just like, what the fuck is happening here?
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Tad Eggleston: Coolio Day! This is… this is definitely one… that,
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Tad Eggleston: It's a long-form story that he tells through parts. I've only actually ever read it as the graphic novel.
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Maria Pena: Okay.
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Tad Eggleston: Curious to read it like this.
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Tad Eggleston: Because essentially, it, it, it, like, it's called Julio's Day, but, but it essentially takes you through a hundred years of his life.
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Maria Pena: Huh?
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Maria Pena: Interesting, okay. I didn't know that, because I was like, first of all, why did the uncle throw the kid into the ravine, and then, and then…
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Marisol: Okay.
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Maria Pena: And then, kind of, found him in… in… in brackets, you know. What, what the hell?
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Maria Pena: And is it… Did he… he didn't switch him for another baby, I imagine.
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Maria Pena: It's like, is that the same baby?
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Maria Pena: Surely he died.
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Maria Pena: Surely it would have died if it was thrown down this…
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Maria Pena: It is just the weirdest thing.
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Maria Pena: else going on? A little…
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Marisol: Confused by that.
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Tad Eggleston: And… and this is one where… where I think we're gonna start…
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Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's, it, it, it, it also…
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Tad Eggleston: Has a healthy dose of magical realism throughout the whole thing.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
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Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
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Maria Pena: crazy guy speaking in tongues, or whatever. Right. Having a… having a fit.
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Maria Pena: That was weird.
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Marisol: Yeah.
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Marisol: A strange little story.
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Tad Eggleston: Like, the, the, the little… The, the slightly bigger kid.
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Tad Eggleston: kicking… kicking Julio because…
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Maria Pena: He doesn't…
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Tad Eggleston: up.
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Tad Eggleston: Because, his friend makes a joke about them getting married.
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Maria Pena: Yeah.
23:24
Tad Eggleston: But then, you know, a few pages forward, you're gonna get me in trouble one day.
23:30
Maria Pena: And there, yeah, he's got his arm around him. And that kid looks like Fortune, we gotta say.
23:36
Tad Eggleston: Disgusting Fortunato.
23:39
Maria Pena: Yeah, I guess…
23:40
Tad Eggleston: And I want to say, it is in… it is in the… in, like, the Luba universe.
23:46
Tad Eggleston: I think it… I think it even gets, like, seriously established there at some point.
23:51
Tad Eggleston: But it's, like, a different village.
23:54
Tad Eggleston: And not… Not a tie.
23:57
Maria Pena: Levant.
23:58
Tad Eggleston: Right.
24:01
Maria Pena: Yeah.
24:02
Tad Eggleston: But yeah, the crazy guy's… I love the…
24:07
Tad Eggleston: He could have 100 fits a day, and I'd still marry him.
24:11
Maria Pena: Yeah, that girl, the, he's… he's her… the sister, Julio's sister, she's just got a crush on this crazy guy.
24:20
Tad Eggleston: With us knowing so much.
24:21
Maria Pena: Let me.
24:21
Tad Eggleston: That you don't even know, is it because he's cute? Is it because he's a nice guy when he's not having a.
24:28
Marisol: That's fair.
24:28
Tad Eggleston: blank.
24:29
Maria Pena: Yeah.
24:30
Tad Eggleston: I mean, this is just… in many ways, it's a setup. We get… we have at least 4 really strong characters that you want to know more about. You've got Julio, his sister, this crazy guy, and the uncle.
24:44
Maria Pena: The uncle, yeah. The uncle. What was his motivation?
24:48
Tad Eggleston: Right. What was, what was going on there?
24:52
Maria Pena: And the sister's really clued in, like, she's, like, she knows that the uncle had something to do with it.
24:59
Tad Eggleston: Right.
25:04
Maria Pena: Yeah, so yeah, interesting, story. I didn't know that it continued. As a standalone story, I was like, what the heck? Yeah.
25:14
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
25:15
Tad Eggleston: No, it's.
25:16
Marisol: Also, we'll have some of those questions.
25:18
Tad Eggleston: One of… one of my favorite…
25:19
Maria Pena: Yeah.
25:20
Tad Eggleston: Beto volumes is Julio's day.
25:23
Tad Eggleston: And I want to say it wound up… when it came out as a hardcover, it was, like, one of the things that won all of the awards.
25:31
Marisol: Oh, wow.
25:32
Tad Eggleston: Like… With Jaime, people still talk about Death of Speedy.
25:42
Tad Eggleston: with Beto, it's split between people talking about
25:46
Tad Eggleston: Poison River and people talking about Julio's day, when they talk about, like, individual Great.
25:54
Maria Pena: Yeah, I mean, I mean, in human diastropism is pretty epic.
25:59
Tad Eggleston: My theory on why that one doesn't get talked about as much is people are afraid to pronounce it.
26:07
Maria Pena: She's here to go, who knew?
26:11
Tad Eggleston: Let's just talk about Poison River.
26:14
Maria Pena: And Julio said, easy.
26:17
Maria Pena: True.
26:18
Tad Eggleston: And for that matter, I mean, my theory on why Death is Speedy gets talked about so much more than so much other highway stuff actually just has to do with its, like.
26:29
Tad Eggleston: One of few clearly delineated storylines with a title.
26:34
Tad Eggleston: that's…
26:34
Maria Pena: Yeah.
26:37
Maria Pena: Yes, but it culminates in Speedy's death.
26:41
Maria Pena: And… and the aftermath. Like, yes, it has a… it's got a trajectory towards speed is there.
26:47
Tad Eggleston: Because as good as it is, like, I don't think it's the best of its work.
26:53
Tad Eggleston: I don't think it's anywhere near the best word.
26:56
Tad Eggleston: You know, it was his best of his work up to then.
27:01
Maria Pena: Yeah.
27:02
Marisol: But then he has…
27:03
Tad Eggleston: He kept getting better, he kept doing weird things.
27:07
Maria Pena: Yeah, I think it is a very marketable.
27:12
Tad Eggleston: Right.
27:13
Maria Pena: Sort of package, yeah, that probably has.
27:15
Tad Eggleston: I mean, honestly,
27:17
Tad Eggleston: you know, we still have a ways to go to get to these, because I think they're collected in news stories and
27:26
Tad Eggleston: maybe even starting into… to Volume 4, but, like.
27:31
Tad Eggleston: Two of Jaime's more recent collections, the Love Bunglers and Is This How You See Me, are, like.
27:40
Tad Eggleston: To me, among the best work he's ever done.
27:44
Tad Eggleston: If not the best work he's ever done. Because they just build on everything before them.
27:51
Tad Eggleston: And still keep it interesting. You don't even have, like, new characters or anything in, I think, either of those books, or at least minimal numbers of new characters. It's still primarily Maggie's stories.
28:03
Maria Pena: Mmm.
28:05
Tad Eggleston: In her late 40s and early 50s.
28:10
Tad Eggleston: I can't wait to get to those with you.
28:14
Tad Eggleston: Cause they're just… they're so good.
28:16
Tad Eggleston: Which is the other thing.
28:17
Marisol: I'm excited.
28:18
Tad Eggleston: I'm so happy to be back to loving rockets, rather than… Then, like, the, the…
28:25
Tad Eggleston: all of the different titles in between, because it means I know that, like, We're… we're a set.
28:34
Tad Eggleston: you know, right now, we're… I think there's… there are 20 Love & Rockets Volume 2, there are 8 news stories, and there are 15 Love & Rockets Volume 4, so…
28:46
Tad Eggleston: like…
28:48
Maria Pena: Wait, where's Volume 3?
28:51
Tad Eggleston: Volume 3 is the news stories.
28:53
Maria Pena: Oh, okay, okay.
28:54
Tad Eggleston: Right.
28:55
Tad Eggleston: So, like… We're legitimately about a year or so, depending on how many
29:03
Tad Eggleston: Weeks we take off from being, like, Up to date.
29:10
Marisol: Yeah.
29:12
Tad Eggleston: And that's gonna be fun.
29:16
Tad Eggleston: So how about our Mario story? That I think…
29:19
Tad Eggleston: I don't know if Gilbert did the penciling and inking, or if he just inked.
29:26
Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
29:27
Tad Eggleston: TV, Inc.
29:29
Marisol: Yeah.
29:30
Maria Pena: Yes.
29:32
Tad Eggleston: You know, the fixes…
29:34
Maria Pena: I think the layouts are really clear, and I think it's more than inking. I would say he did.
29:40
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I have a feeling Mario wrote it, and Gilbert did all the drawing.
29:45
Maria Pena: Yep.
29:46
Maria Pena: But, I, I found this story…
29:51
Marisol: Mario style.
29:53
Maria Pena: Yeah.
29:54
Maria Pena: I think the first splash looks a little bit like Mario Star, but it also looks like early Beto, in a way. Heavy inking.
30:04
Maria Pena: The first flash, you know, the doot, boop, boop.
30:09
Maria Pena: I found it, hard to follow at the beginning.
30:15
Tad Eggleston: a little bit.
30:17
Maria Pena: But… Yeah, it's very dense in terms of geopolitics and whatever is going on there.
30:27
Tad Eggleston: I mean, you know…
30:28
Maria Pena: Relatively this.
30:30
Tad Eggleston: Mario is definitely the one… I mean, I think we noticed this a couple of times.
30:35
Tad Eggleston: Way back in Volume 1, Mario is definitely the one that's most… Most common… drawn to write, like.
30:46
Tad Eggleston: If not, like, nonfiction of geopolitics going on, like, very timely geopolitical stories.
30:55
Maria Pena: Hmm.
30:56
Tad Eggleston: And I feel like… this…
31:00
Maria Pena: Yeah, this is…
31:01
Tad Eggleston: I know one of those.
31:03
Maria Pena: Yeah.
31:04
Maria Pena: The good thing is that because, Gilbert drew it, it's definitely… a much more…
31:14
Tad Eggleston: You know, the…
31:16
Maria Pena: kind of storytelling in it.
31:18
Tad Eggleston: The… the capitalists buying off the… the…
31:22
Tad Eggleston: The military leader who then turns on Does his own thing anyway.
31:30
Tad Eggleston: Yeah. But then also the, the, the, like…
31:37
Tad Eggleston: You know, part of that is, like, the businessman that's there
31:43
Tad Eggleston: But then you also have, like.
31:46
Tad Eggleston: The story of his family home without him.
31:50
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, like…
31:52
Maria Pena: He's… who is… yeah.
31:56
Tad Eggleston: And that's kinda, go ahead.
32:01
Maria Pena: Sorry, no, I, I… go on, sorry, I, I'm forgetting.
32:04
Tad Eggleston: I was gonna say, it's kind of a very interesting…
32:09
Tad Eggleston: like, dichotomy. Here's your family at home without you. Here's…
32:15
Tad Eggleston: Like, everything going to shit on the other side of the world.
32:19
Tad Eggleston: And then, like, he discovers that, oh, there was a…
32:24
Tad Eggleston: bribe going on, and I have the money.
32:30
Maria Pena: Yep.
32:32
Tad Eggleston: As, as, you know, his wife discovers things about her father.
32:39
Tad Eggleston: And I feel like we're gonna wind up discovering more, since her father and daughter went off to find her husband.
32:46
Tad Eggleston: Like, this feels like the setup to a… to a deeper, more intriguing story, which makes me kind of happy that Gilbert's drawing, because…
32:57
Tad Eggleston: you know, Mario… Mario, I think, has done a number of stories where I loved
33:04
Tad Eggleston: Loved, like, the thriller, you know, the political thriller aspect of them.
33:10
Maria Pena: Yep.
33:12
Tad Eggleston: What the art took away.
33:14
Tad Eggleston: And… and I kind of feel like this one…
33:18
Tad Eggleston: you know, Beto's got the… The storytelling down.
33:24
Tad Eggleston: I'm really curious as to… Where it's gonna go and how long it's gonna last.
33:30
Maria Pena: Yes, yeah.
33:32
Maria Pena: Yeah, he's definitely… Keeping it very clear, visually.
33:38
Tad Eggleston: I do love this, this image of… of the daughter reading Twit.
33:44
Tad Eggleston: The… the grandfather looking every ounce the mafia Don with the coat over his shoulders, smoking the cigarette, and then just the lost father.
33:56
Tad Eggleston: It's, like, the sun.
34:01
Maria Pena: Well, he's looming, or is he remembering?
34:07
Maria Pena: I guess his… his memory, or whatever. I guess… I guess there…
34:12
Maria Pena: What is it, like a… like, in a… in a… in a movie, you know.
34:17
Maria Pena: It would be one scene juxtaposed over the other. Right.
34:21
Tad Eggleston: Right.
34:22
Marisol: Yep.
34:28
Tad Eggleston: And then finish up with, with the,
34:33
Tad Eggleston: The military guy, I knew we were being double-crossed. See that our police force is conspicuously absent for the next few weeks. Our people need to feel a little freedom.
34:49
Maria Pena: Huh.
34:51
Tad Eggleston: Bitch.
34:52
Tad Eggleston: I think is code for… we're not gonna protect them from the shit that's coming, so that… so that…
34:59
Tad Eggleston: Elko, please, please, send in the police!
35:04
Marisol: We will beg for our help later.
35:07
Tad Eggleston: Right.
35:09
Tad Eggleston: What'd you guys think of the… the… Beto's short here.
35:14
Tad Eggleston: That was hilarious.
35:17
Maria Pena: Yeah, it really is.
35:18
Marisol: Cute.
35:20
Maria Pena: The, word balloons were straight out of, nemo… .
35:28
Tad Eggleston: Well, and it's dedicated to his wife.
35:31
Marisol: Hmm.
35:32
Maria Pena: Yeah.
35:32
Tad Eggleston: And it's right around the time Natalia was born.
35:37
Maria Pena: Okay.
35:39
Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, I think this is, like, his weird story about becoming a father.
35:45
Maria Pena: your own.
35:50
Maria Pena: Yeah, very cute.
35:55
Tad Eggleston: And just completely whacked out back cover.
35:58
Tad Eggleston: That doesn't have anything to do with anything. Yeah.
36:01
Maria Pena: Sweet.
36:01
Marisol: Just fun.
36:04
Maria Pena: Yeah, I love the drunk… the drunken guy coming out of the…
36:08
Tad Eggleston: 10.
36:09
Maria Pena: brothel, I think, or something.
36:12
Tad Eggleston: And just cause, like.
36:14
Tad Eggleston: Betta was drawing way too much in this period. We're gonna take a quick look at Luba number 9 as well.
36:21
Marisol: Yep.
36:23
Tad Eggleston: I love this… I love the Ophelia of all of this.
36:30
Tad Eggleston: Yes.
36:31
Maria Pena: Yes.
36:32
Tad Eggleston: You know, writing your book.
36:34
Maria Pena: So… It's not like…
36:38
Marisol: who involved with everybody at this point? Yeah.
36:43
Maria Pena: for Donato, and he Fortunato!
36:47
Marisol: Yes. Robert Redford…
36:51
Tad Eggleston: passed away.
36:53
Tad Eggleston: Recently, and one of the stories that got mentioned a lot was,
36:58
Tad Eggleston: Apparently, he wanted to be in The Graduate.
37:02
Tad Eggleston: And Mike Nichols… Mike Nichols is like, no, you're wrong for it. He's like, well, I can act, I can figure out, and he's like.
37:11
Tad Eggleston: So what does it feel like when a girl rejects you?
37:15
Maria Pena: And he's like, what do you mean?
37:17
Tad Eggleston: And he's like… When a girl what?
37:24
Marisol: Oh my god.
37:25
Tad Eggleston: I, I, I don't understand.
37:28
Maria Pena: What are you talking about?
37:32
Tad Eggleston: When you want to have sex with a girl, and she doesn't want to talk to you, Huh?
37:46
Maria Pena: Yeah, no, he definitely wasn't good for… wasn't right for that part.
37:52
Maria Pena: And isn't that wonderful that Dustin Hoffman got it? Because that was perfect.
37:57
Tad Eggleston: Hell yeah.
37:59
Tad Eggleston: So… Yeah, I also, I like that, that Ophelia and… And… is this Socorro?
38:11
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Ophelia and Socorro understand that
38:15
Tad Eggleston: She got our brains from her mom.
38:18
Maria Pena: Yeah.
38:21
Maria Pena: That school looks really hard.
38:24
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
38:25
Tad Eggleston: Which is why I also love it on the next page, the Luba, immigration, taxes, cell phones.
38:34
Maria Pena: repairs and cell phones.
38:36
Marisol: Zoo!
38:37
Tad Eggleston: all of the different things that I know that I can…
38:41
Tad Eggleston: I mean, just like she had the bathhouse and the movie theater, you know? Luba's always been the one that can go, okay, this is…
38:51
Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean, it's easy for us to fall into all of Luba's…
38:57
Tad Eggleston: I mean, the same way, you know.
39:00
Tad Eggleston: Socorro's talking, like, no, a lady teacher asked what she looked like naked.
39:11
Tad Eggleston: You know, it's so easy for us to fall into Luba's wild side, and the fact that, like.
39:21
Tad Eggleston: She has… both a… And with Luba, it really is both. It's a… a…
39:34
Tad Eggleston: I have responsibilities, but I deserve to also enjoy my life, slash self-destructive streak.
39:42
Maria Pena: Yeah.
39:43
Tad Eggleston: She also sometimes takes it too far.
39:51
Tad Eggleston: for her own good. I mean, not too far as in I'm passing moral judgment, but, like, there are times where she's reached points where it's like, oh…
40:00
Marisol: No, no, no, this is not what I wanted.
40:07
Tad Eggleston: That's interesting, and I think…
40:11
Tad Eggleston: What, what do you think? Do you think it was an accident that, that, that, maricela…
40:16
Maria Pena: We're still running through.
40:19
Tad Eggleston: Ran into Kamo, or do you think Kamo found it?
40:22
Marisol: I don't think so.
40:23
Marisol: He probably found her.
40:26
Maria Pena: Yeah.
40:26
Marisol: casino… Maricela and Luba don't talk.
40:31
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I really feel like he's playing… .
40:37
Marisol: Peacemaker?
40:38
Maria Pena: In between her.
40:39
Marisol: them.
40:41
Marisol: They're trying to at least extend an olive branch or something.
40:43
Tad Eggleston: Right.
40:44
Tad Eggleston: Well, particularly because, you know, she's sitting there, lying there in bed, seeing him
40:50
Tad Eggleston: Almost made me give a shit about my mother for a second.
40:56
Maria Pena: Yeah.
41:00
Tad Eggleston: So, yeah. Kamo is, as always, way deeper than he seems. That was even true.
41:08
Marisol: Mia.
41:09
Tad Eggleston: was the pretty boy Fortunato wannabe.
41:12
Tad Eggleston: It's been particularly true.
41:16
Marisol: There's… there's… there's always been a lot of depth to combo.
41:20
Tad Eggleston: No.
41:21
Tad Eggleston: People's Burden.
41:25
Maria Pena: Yeah.
41:25
Tad Eggleston: Being in love with her daughters.
41:29
Tad Eggleston: Her, her, her, her, her, her son's lover.
41:33
Marisol: Person.
41:34
Tad Eggleston: Is apparently her burden.
41:36
Tad Eggleston: also, like… Yeah.
41:41
Maria Pena: I didn't know what to say.
41:42
Maria Pena: I think this was just… That scene with, with Fritz and the gun was like, what?
41:50
Marisol: Yeah, like, why? Why do you have a gun?
41:54
Tad Eggleston: Fritz is into guns.
41:56
Maria Pena: preaches it to Guns, and she…
41:58
Marisol: next thing.
41:59
Maria Pena: and people got their boobs, and just like, is that, like, some kind of game? Some kind of sexy thing? I don't know.
42:08
Marisol: Yeah.
42:10
Tad Eggleston: I… Of Two Minds might have been my favorite story.
42:14
Maria Pena: Yes.
42:15
Tad Eggleston: I mean, the whole thing.
42:17
Marisol: fun.
42:18
Tad Eggleston: thought bubbles.
42:21
Maria Pena: Yes, and they're having conflicting thoughts.
42:24
Tad Eggleston: Right.
42:24
Maria Pena: they're both…
42:27
Maria Pena: you know, they're both kind of like, oh, she shouldn't be fighting, she shouldn't be fighting for different reasons. And then when she…
42:34
Maria Pena: She says, oh, she's not gonna fight. She's like, but why? Why isn't she fighting? You shouldn't just…
42:38
Marisol: You know, it's like, I can't believe that.
42:42
Tad Eggleston: And then Hector will talk him into it. Talk her into it. He better.
42:45
Maria Pena: He's better, yeah.
42:47
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, loss, you can't… can't leave on a loss.
42:51
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah, so it was…
42:53
Tad Eggleston: Rematch required.
42:55
Marisol: Beautiful.
42:55
Maria Pena: Yes, perfect, depiction of in two months, and…
43:02
Maria Pena: Literally two nights, Venus in it.
43:06
Tad Eggleston: I do have to say, I'm just noticing this, that, like…
43:11
Tad Eggleston: the Fortunato, with Luba getting up and leaving.
43:16
Tad Eggleston: I think is the only Fortunato I've ever seen drawn where he doesn't look
43:21
Tad Eggleston: 100% confident. It's like, oh wow, I got knocked out, and… and she's going away now.
43:30
Tad Eggleston: There's that little shiver, almost.
43:33
Maria Pena: Is it a shiver, or is he glowing?
43:36
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think it's supposed to be…
43:38
Marisol: form.
43:39
Tad Eggleston: But, like, the way his lips…
43:42
Marisol: Like, his facial expression.
43:44
Tad Eggleston: Makes it feel more like a shiver to me.
43:47
Maria Pena: Yeah.
43:48
Maria Pena: And then…
43:49
Marisol: aren't specialized.
43:52
Maria Pena: The title is from that, you know, backdoor Man.
43:55
Tad Eggleston: Hi. The doors.
43:57
Maria Pena: But the little girls understand.
44:00
Tad Eggleston: Hell, yeah.
44:01
Maria Pena: Which is there, yeah.
44:04
Tad Eggleston: So, like, it… I feel like it may be the one and only time Fortunato meets his match is in Luba.
44:12
Maria Pena: Yeah.
44:15
Maria Pena: Yeah.
44:17
Tad Eggleston: Guadala.
44:17
Marisol: Everyone else?
44:18
Tad Eggleston: Possible.
44:19
Marisol: Totally fine.
44:20
Tad Eggleston: pissed off at her students, but then goes and finds Fortunato.
44:24
Maria Pena: And it's funny that she's like, oh, your neck is not as big as my husband's, but her nipples are getting ready.
44:31
Tad Eggleston: Right, right.
44:32
Maria Pena: She's getting excited, and she goes, and Fortunato! Right.
44:37
Tad Eggleston: Didn't happen. How could it, if he's only an illusion?
44:42
Maria Pena: But it's just a dream.
44:46
Maria Pena: This story is all about, is fortunate or real or imaginary, isn't it?
44:50
Tad Eggleston: Well, and then, I love this one, too, where, like.
44:54
Tad Eggleston: they're… they're calling… they're calling, Maricel unclean for having… Tried to have a baby.
45:04
Marisol: And so.
45:04
Tad Eggleston: And she remembers Fortunato.
45:07
Maria Pena: And it's Renato, yeah, yeah.
45:09
Marisol: His whole damn family has slept with 14 Autumn at one point or another. I swear.
45:14
Tad Eggleston: But this, this page was my favorite, where, like, like, Ophelia is all, oh no, whatever, my muse, yeah, no, no, and, like, he still manages…
45:28
Tad Eggleston: Fortunato.
45:30
Maria Pena: I was just leaving Amelia.
45:33
Maria Pena: I know, even… Two, Ophelia? Jesus.
45:37
Tad Eggleston: You know…
45:39
Tad Eggleston: Their surface appeal will fade over time, but not even their inner beauty has ever compared to your grace, your passion, your radiance.
45:47
Marisol: Yep.
45:48
Tad Eggleston: Nice compliment, but Peepo hasn't aged since she was 18. You're not the only one with magic in your veins, and you have it in mind and soul.
45:57
Maria Pena: And so…
45:58
Tad Eggleston: Beautiful.
45:58
Maria Pena: Beautiful.
45:59
Tad Eggleston: firing. Ageless.
46:02
Tad Eggleston: Fortunato! Fortunato!
46:06
Maria Pena: You better does it again.
46:08
Maria Pena: Oh, man.
46:11
Marisol: That's a riot.
46:14
Tad Eggleston: Thank you.
46:16
Maria Pena: Yeah, so, yeah, is he real, or is he, just a… You know?
46:25
Maria Pena: Just the treatment of everyone's imagination. And then, even Camo can feel the Fortunato effect.
46:33
Tad Eggleston: Right. You know, and I just love… I love the look on her face, it's like, how'd you know?
46:39
Tad Eggleston: How'd you know?
46:39
Marisol: Yep.
46:41
Maria Pena: Is it because Camo slept with Fortunato?
46:44
Tad Eggleston: It might be. Maybe.
46:47
Maria Pena: And he can feel… He can feel his presence.
46:52
Tad Eggleston: Maybe, maybe fortunate enough…
46:54
Maria Pena: Luba.
46:55
Tad Eggleston: How about this? Maybe Fortunato is Kamo.
46:59
Maria Pena: Oh.
46:59
Tad Eggleston: It's, it's the unburned…
47:01
Tad Eggleston: I have to go back and look at early… I mean, I remember Kama with a mohawk, but, like…
47:07
Marisol: Yeah.
47:09
Maria Pena: Yeah.
47:09
Tad Eggleston: I feel, I feel like some of the… That's some of the… Facial.
47:20
Marisol: Teachers are very…
47:21
Tad Eggleston: The structures are really similar.
47:24
Maria Pena: Yay!
47:24
Marisol: And I think this part… This is the first time we… we've seen Kamu.
47:30
Tad Eggleston: Of course, that…
47:31
Marisol: I would work.
47:32
Maria Pena: That would also installs, yeah.
47:33
Marisol: Run.
47:34
Tad Eggleston: really, really…
47:35
Tad Eggleston: creepy, because that'd mean that Fortunato slash Kamo is banging a number of his daughters, so let's… let's…
47:43
Maria Pena: That's not the…
47:45
Tad Eggleston: are different people. I've changed.
47:47
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
47:50
Marisol: They have to be.
47:52
Maria Pena: Totally, yeah, yeah. No, but there's something going on there, and as you were saying, Marisole, he's actually uttered a word, not just
48:04
Maria Pena: Ron.
48:05
Marisol: It's not just silence or some, like.
48:08
Marisol: Noise or grunts, an actual word that we've gotten from him since he was burned.
48:15
Maria Pena: Yep.
48:18
Maria Pena: So, yeah.
48:21
Maria Pena: Interesting.
48:22
Tad Eggleston: But man, this is how you draw a sex scene.
48:24
Tad Eggleston: Like, start to finish.
48:27
Tad Eggleston: Like, like, like, from the… the… he's in the other room to… to…
48:31
Marisol: Yep.
48:32
Tad Eggleston: We're all done… Yeah, it's just…
48:35
Maria Pena: And they've swapped places, you know, she's in the foreground at the beginning.
48:39
Tad Eggleston: Right.
48:40
Maria Pena: The background is…
48:41
Marisol: the movement.
48:41
Maria Pena: The end, he's in the foreground, she's in the background looking at it.
48:46
Maria Pena: A nice little…
48:48
Tad Eggleston: Well, in a lot of ways.
48:49
Tad Eggleston: Where they most swap places is when they swap places in foreplay.
48:56
Maria Pena: Hmm.
48:58
Tad Eggleston: Luba is central.
49:02
Tad Eggleston: Up until the middle, where they go from
49:06
Tad Eggleston: Kamo going down on… on her, to him… her going down on him.
49:11
Tad Eggleston: And then for the rest of that row, they're kinda equal.
49:16
Marisol: It's more.
49:17
Tad Eggleston: and Lubo's… Luba's boobs, and her… her head's kind of down at the bottom.
49:22
Tad Eggleston: But then, Kamo is central to the bottom row, so, like, yeah, it's…
49:28
Tad Eggleston: That's kind of a brilliantly done 9-panel asymmetric grid.
49:36
Marisol: It's lovely.
49:37
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
49:42
Tad Eggleston: Fritz and Peepo sitting in a tree.
49:45
Maria Pena: I don't see anything.
49:47
Tad Eggleston: They seem to be at the ocean.
49:50
Maria Pena: Not on the tree.
49:53
Tad Eggleston: I love the going backwards to everybody being young again.
49:59
Marisol: Yeah.
50:04
Maria Pena: So… so I guess… Bibo has asked.
50:10
Maria Pena: Fritz to break up with everybody, and…
50:14
Tad Eggleston: Well, at least to break up with her son.
50:17
Marisol: Yeah.
50:19
Marisol: And Petro's got some.
50:21
Maria Pena: Oh, yeah.
50:21
Marisol: people.
50:23
Maria Pena: That's right, and Petra has to…
50:25
Maria Pena: Well, people has to break up with the Igor.
50:29
Tad Eggleston: Yeah. And she learns English to dump him.
50:34
Marisol: Yep.
50:35
Maria Pena: No.
50:38
Maria Pena: Oh, and that's right, this one had a tweet at the end. Oh, that was really like, holy shit, oh. And then there's a texting with Gato and Guadalupe, and I was like, whoa!
50:48
Tad Eggleston: Guadalupe.
50:49
Marisol: Yep.
50:50
Tad Eggleston: All because she was essentially rejected by Sergio.
50:56
Maria Pena: Yeah.
50:57
Tad Eggleston: You know, she was essentially offering to leave Gatto for Sergio.
51:02
Tad Eggleston: But he rejected her, so she goes home and bangs her husband.
51:06
Maria Pena: Brings are messy.
51:10
Maria Pena: Yeah, and then, and then that's Venus.
51:15
Tad Eggleston: But, I…
51:17
Maria Pena: I mean, sorry, Petra.
51:19
Maria Pena: They would normally…
51:21
Marisol: Excuse me.
51:21
Maria Pena: Oh, sorry, go on.
51:22
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I would normally not bring this up.
51:25
Tad Eggleston: But… but it's one of the few…
51:27
Tad Eggleston: times that we see penetration from Beto, other than.
51:32
Maria Pena: We're playing?
51:32
Marisol: of them.
51:33
Tad Eggleston: And I… I think that's all because of the earlier… her telling Fortunato that her husband has a bigger dick than he does.
51:41
Maria Pena: Yeah.
51:42
Tad Eggleston: So it's like, see? He barely even fits.
51:46
Marisol: Yeah.
51:47
Maria Pena: No, no, I was like, whoa!
51:51
Marisol: I'm surprised!
51:53
Maria Pena: Yeah, no, that caught me by surprise. I was like, oh shit, look at that.
51:57
Tad Eggleston: Yep.
51:58
Marisol: Yep.
51:59
Maria Pena: become approved.
52:00
Tad Eggleston: And, like, among the least sexy images in the book, Like, even the next…
52:05
Tad Eggleston: Way more sexy. I mean, to take the actual penetration and somehow make it feel weird rather than sexy also takes talent.
52:16
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
52:17
Tad Eggleston: So happy with her.
52:19
Tad Eggleston: her…
52:20
Tad Eggleston: her body position there shows that, like, maybe not there yet. By the next panel, it's like, she's closed her eyes, and she's wherever she needs to be that she's enjoying herself, but she doesn't actually look like she's enjoying herself yet.
52:34
Maria Pena: No, she's not really that happy. I think she's, I don't think she looks happy at all, yeah.
52:39
Tad Eggleston: Right.
52:40
Maria Pena: Oof.
52:45
Maria Pena: So then… This bit, I mean, that's, petra?
52:51
Maria Pena: Dressed as a…
52:52
Marisol: In disguise again.
52:54
Maria Pena: in disguise.
52:55
Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah, that's right.
52:57
Maria Pena: Which was a kind of, you know, because she doesn't approve of people, and it's… Right.
53:05
Tad Eggleston: Right?
53:06
Maria Pena: And then… Which is a…
53:12
Maria Pena: Yeah, foreshadowing what's gonna happen in the next few days.
53:17
Tad Eggleston: Right.
53:19
Maria Pena: Which is panic.
53:20
Maria Pena: Took me by surprise again.
53:23
Marisol: Oh yeah, same.
53:26
Tad Eggleston: Don't hurt yourself writing your book too hard.
53:33
Maria Pena: Yeah, so… So, failure is, clapping, clicking away, and then… He has a heart attack.
53:44
Maria Pena: And then Venus… sorry, Petra gets a phone call, and… Oh, no, people!
53:51
Maria Pena: What happened to people? He's pretending to not know, because she must have done it.
53:57
Maria Pena: So I guess she's attacked people.
54:01
Maria Pena: Hello.
54:03
Maria Pena: I was like, what? What?
54:07
Tad Eggleston: Do be continued.
54:09
Maria Pena: Yeah.
54:10
Marisol: Mute.
54:12
Maria Pena: Yeah, that would suck.
54:14
Maria Pena: That ended in a very dark place.
54:18
Marisol: Oh, yeah.
54:20
Maria Pena: the back cover.
54:21
Marisol: A beautiful back cover.
54:23
Tad Eggleston: That's a… fantastic.
54:25
Tad Eggleston: Affiliate company.
54:26
Maria Pena: Farewell. Farewell, that covers, isn't it? Like…
54:31
Tad Eggleston: You know that a failure didn't make it out of the heart attack.
54:34
Maria Pena: Maybe.
54:36
Tad Eggleston: We'll find out.
54:36
Marisol: Maybe.
54:39
Tad Eggleston: We'll find out.
54:42
Tad Eggleston: So… Yeah. Do we want to start with Beto or Jaime?
54:48
Maria Pena: Yeah, that's… well, let's, let's, stay with Beto.
54:53
Maria Pena: Or… Let's see if there's any paddles here…
55:00
Marisol: Hmm.
55:07
Maria Pena: I think the Lover Rockets had some really good bet, okay.
55:12
Tad Eggleston: It definitely did.
55:13
Maria Pena: Although, I do like the panel above the trees and people sitting in a tree, because I love that.
55:22
Marisol: Yeah.
55:23
Maria Pena: Right.
55:25
Maria Pena: You will.
55:26
Tad Eggleston: Oh, that is good. Yeah, yeah.
55:28
Maria Pena: That's a really nice panel.
55:30
Marisol: Yeah.
55:32
Maria Pena: The two girls that were each other.
55:37
Maria Pena: Yeah, oh, I'm a bit gutted about Ophelia, I gotta say.
55:46
Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna go with this, this…
55:49
Tad Eggleston: I feel like this… this panel at the of,
55:55
Tad Eggleston: At the Me for the Unknown.
56:01
Maria Pena: Yeah.
56:01
Tad Eggleston: There's, like, some serious foreshadowing all in one…
56:08
Tad Eggleston: So I think that's…
56:13
Tad Eggleston: I just… I like how, like, they're on the boat, out at sea, you can see the water, and then the horizon is… or they might be on a bench, I can't tell.
56:23
Maria Pena: Hmm.
56:24
Tad Eggleston: They might be at a bench at the airport.
56:27
Tad Eggleston: or… or Seaport, or they might be… Because it's not… Completely clear.
56:34
Maria Pena: Hmm.
56:35
Marisol: Right.
56:36
Tad Eggleston: They could be standing, or they could be sitting. If they're sitting, they're on a bench. If they're standing, you're seeing the water behind them.
56:43
Tad Eggleston: and Dad's in the sky, and, like, it doesn't even really matter which, because, like, it's…
56:52
Tad Eggleston: it's kind of showing you that Dad is on the boat in, like, the Amazon, clutching…
57:01
Tad Eggleston: The money, and walking away from his family, etc.
57:07
Tad Eggleston: And again, I mean, we got the hint.
57:11
Tad Eggleston: that… that Grandpa wasn't all a good guy, because, like.
57:15
Tad Eggleston: When she was going around back, she saw him… Punch… punch your mom?
57:21
Maria Pena: Nope.
57:21
Tad Eggleston: But here, I mean, if he doesn't look like a mafia Don.
57:26
Maria Pena: Yeah, I know.
57:27
Marisol: No, absolutely.
57:29
Tad Eggleston: You know, and…
57:31
Marisol: The whole vibe.
57:33
Tad Eggleston: Is clearly not…
57:34
Marisol: Dumb, but also clearly…
57:37
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I'm still curious as to why she's part of the going after him.
57:45
Maria Pena: Hmm.
57:45
Tad Eggleston: You know, because what we'd seen before was her arguing about whether or not she was headed to Europe for the summer.
57:51
Tad Eggleston: Right.
57:55
Tad Eggleston: And now she's not headed to Europe, she's headed to South America to find her dad, but also still reading Twit.
58:04
Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
58:08
Tad Eggleston: That's… That's my beddo panel.
58:13
Maria Pena: Okay.
58:16
Maria Pena: Jaime panels.
58:18
Marisol: Hmm.
58:19
Maria Pena: Oh, so many.
58:20
Tad Eggleston: Well, is Marisol… is Marisol chosen a Beto panel? Are you… are you going with the…
58:25
Maria Pena: Oh.
58:26
Tad Eggleston: Are you good?
58:26
Marisol: I…
58:27
Tad Eggleston: pepo and Fritz sitting in a tree?
58:33
Marisol: I'm taking mine from… I don't remember what page it is, where all the…
58:40
Marisol: the girls, Maricela, Doralis, and Guadalupe, are there together with Ophelia.
58:48
Maria Pena: I am.
58:52
Marisol: It's back a little bit, I think, here.
58:54
Tad Eggleston: Give me a second.
59:03
Tad Eggleston: Sorry, I'm typing really fast.
59:07
Marisol: Really fast. All good.
59:09
Tad Eggleston: Not actually that fast.
59:16
Tad Eggleston: So… here?
59:22
Marisol: It's loading from my end. There we go. Yep, that middle panel right there, where they're all together.
59:30
Marisol: And I just thought it was… it was nice that, like, even though.
59:33
Tad Eggleston: It is.
59:34
Marisol: Maricela is not.
59:35
Tad Eggleston: All with their surrogate law.
59:37
Marisol: her mother, she's… Yeah, she's still…
59:39
Tad Eggleston: Because among other things, you know that for Maricel, it's been really, really hard.
59:45
Tad Eggleston: Being away from Australia.
59:49
Tad Eggleston: Whatever she thinks about being away from her mom, being away from Ophelia has been… Really difficult for her.
59:58
Marisol: And she's still on good terms with her own sisters.
1:00:02
Tad Eggleston: Right.
1:00:09
Marisol: Yeah, I just really like this middle panel here.
1:00:13
Maria Pena: Okay.
1:00:15
Tad Eggleston: Alright.
1:00:18
Tad Eggleston: So… For me and Jaime, it's… it's that Maggie image at the beginning.
1:00:27
Marisol: Yes.
1:00:27
Maria Pena: Lovely.
1:00:28
Marisol: That's gonna be mine, too.
1:00:30
Tad Eggleston: This is… I miss Maggie.
1:00:33
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, that too.
1:00:36
Marisol: That's a fantastic panel for her.
1:00:39
Tad Eggleston: I was happy.
1:00:40
Marisol: and…
1:00:41
Tad Eggleston: And I think they know it, because that's been the cover of a couple of things now.
1:00:48
Tad Eggleston: That's just such… Such a great Maggie panel.
1:00:59
Maria Pena: Yep.
1:01:01
Maria Pena: Wow.
1:01:05
Maria Pena: I think my one is that one with EZ's hair, blending into that shadow coming off the… Yeah.
1:01:16
Maria Pena: I love that, I just… I love that. Oh, I mean, that whole sequence before is fantastic, like, you know, like, I love… I usually go for one, but it was like, I can't pick one of those, they're all…
1:01:29
Maria Pena: So, just… I like that quiet moment, and she's like, okay, okay.
1:01:35
Maria Pena: The way Easy looks so creepy.
1:01:41
Marisol: Izzy does creepy effortlessly.
1:01:44
Tad Eggleston: cash.
1:01:45
Tad Eggleston: It's like her defining feature.
1:01:48
Marisol: Yeah.
1:01:49
Maria Pena: Yeah, so she's looking especially witchy, you know.
1:01:55
Maria Pena: Oh, I love that one, yeah.
1:01:57
Maria Pena: Well, you should I just saw that other one with the… with the… when she's… when… anyway.
1:02:03
Maria Pena: Maggie's sleeping in the couch.
1:02:06
Maria Pena: Yeah. So anyway, okay.
1:02:09
Marisol: There we go.
1:02:10
Maria Pena: Yep.
1:02:12
Tad Eggleston: The OKK?
1:02:13
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:14
Tad Eggleston: Or the… Okay.
1:02:17
Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:19
Maria Pena: I might mention the other one as a sort of thing to look at, because it's… it's quite cute.
1:02:30
Maria Pena: What is that?
1:02:37
Tad Eggleston: I think Maricel agreed with me on this one.
1:02:40
Marisol: Yeah, we had the same one.
1:02:42
Tad Eggleston: We both, we both went with the opening Maggie.
1:02:45
Maria Pena: Can I mention then…
1:02:49
Maria Pena: Oh.
1:02:50
Tad Eggleston: Absolutely. And then, the one where Maggie's on the sofa.
1:02:54
Maria Pena: And you can see this shadow above the sofa, and it looks like, you know.
1:02:59
Tad Eggleston: I hope you don't mind if I sleep way over here on this nice, safe couch. Izzy?
1:03:05
Marisol: Yep.
1:03:06
Maria Pena: Thank you very much.
1:03:08
Maria Pena: And yeah, I love that.
1:03:11
Tad Eggleston: There's so many good panels.
1:03:13
Marisol: System.
1:03:14
Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, something… Sometimes when I read comics, I literally clip the panels
1:03:21
Tad Eggleston: that I love the most as I go.
1:03:26
Tad Eggleston: And that can be dangerous with Jaime, because I wind up literally just, like, clipping every panel.
1:03:34
Tad Eggleston: They're so good.
1:03:35
Marisol: Good!
1:03:36
Tad Eggleston: There are so many Jaime panels that I would happily frame and put on my wall, or put on a t-shirt.
1:03:42
Tad Eggleston: Make into a sticker, or, like…
1:03:46
Marisol: Hell yeah.
1:03:47
Tad Eggleston: like, one of the geniuses of Jaime Hernandez is that, like, not only is he a Brilliant storyteller.
1:03:57
Maria Pena: Hmm.
1:03:58
Tad Eggleston: But almost every panel is also its own work of art.
1:04:05
Marisol: Yeah.
1:04:07
Maria Pena: Yeah.
1:04:08
Maria Pena: They were beautifully designed.
1:04:13
Maria Pena: Perfect.
1:04:13
Tad Eggleston: So…
1:04:14
Maria Pena: We know that.
1:04:14
Tad Eggleston: Every page is its own work of art, but, like, literally all…
1:04:18
Maria Pena: space.
1:04:19
Tad Eggleston: panel.
1:04:20
Maria Pena: That first page.
1:04:21
Tad Eggleston: Smart.
1:04:22
Maria Pena: Yeah, you know, that panel bottom left.
1:04:25
Marisol: Yeah.
1:04:26
Maria Pena: Merry Christmas. I mean, I love that.
1:04:28
Tad Eggleston: Yeah!
1:04:30
Maria Pena: You know.
1:04:32
Marisol: Going in from the open door.
1:04:35
Tad Eggleston: I mean, seriously, if… I… I could… I could…
1:04:41
Tad Eggleston: decorate a very large house using exclusively Jaime Hernandez panels.
1:04:50
Tad Eggleston: I don't doubt that. Right? Make them, like, 8.5 by 11…
1:04:57
Tad Eggleston: Like, the way some people fill their walls with family pictures, you could do it with Jaime panels. You wouldn't even have to put them in any particular order. You wouldn't have to make it so you could read the story going through.
1:05:11
Maria Pena: No.
1:05:12
Tad Eggleston: Fill your entire house with just his panels.
1:05:16
Tad Eggleston: And nobody would think that, oh my god, what repetitive decor.
1:05:20
Tad Eggleston: It'd be like, oh my god, that's amazing. Is that the same artist as that one? Oh, it is! Wow!
1:05:26
Marisol: Yeah.
1:05:31
Marisol: Just beautifully done. Beautiful artwork.
1:05:37
Tad Eggleston: I, like, as we're flipping through, I just… the… the…
1:05:43
Tad Eggleston: you know, I think we talked about Maggie and Hopi getting it on. How good is this panel where they get it off?
1:05:51
Marisol: Thank you.
1:05:53
Tad Eggleston: Julie Rhee's precious little television show. Julie Rhee!
1:05:59
Tad Eggleston: Maggie's just sitting out there.
1:06:00
Maria Pena: Wait a minute.
1:06:02
Tad Eggleston: I liked this better a minute ago.
1:06:10
Tad Eggleston: Weren't you going down on me? That… that was… that was nicer than,
1:06:16
Tad Eggleston: I hadn't used her name yet.
1:06:20
Marisol: We're doing great, 30 seconds ago, and then…
1:06:23
Marisol: And I opened… I baked that mouth, and now we're here.
1:06:27
Tad Eggleston: Yeah…
1:06:30
Marisol: Oh, man.
1:06:32
Maria Pena: Great stuff.
1:06:34
Tad Eggleston: And I love the whole,
1:06:38
Tad Eggleston: I have to go to the back for a minute. I gotta pee.
1:06:42
Tad Eggleston: And then they're just there, and they both know that that's happening. It's like…
1:06:46
Maria Pena: Hmm.
1:06:47
Tad Eggleston: I mean, in some ways, because that's, like, That's… that's such the… the…
1:06:57
Tad Eggleston: Like, you're so used to that, with the hot… hot mail bartender, and the…
1:07:04
Tad Eggleston: The… the… the girl that's swooning over him, that, like, switching it to have it be…
1:07:11
Tad Eggleston: you know, the cool eyepatched Hopi, which I want to say the eyepatches… we learned that she has something, but it's, like, not a permanent thing.
1:07:21
Tad Eggleston: Did she have some sort of surgery?
1:07:23
Tad Eggleston: didn't we discover that, like, last issue? Well, no, because there wasn't a last issue. Way back in, like.
1:07:33
Tad Eggleston: God, what was after… What did we read after, oh, and Penny Century.
1:07:43
Tad Eggleston: I think this… I think, I feel like Penny at… er, not Penny, hopi at the Bar started in Penny Century, and there's some story behind that eyepatch. But overall, it just looks like Hopi being cool.
1:07:57
Tad Eggleston: You know.
1:07:58
Marisol: That's wondering what the deal with the eyepatch was.
1:08:01
Tad Eggleston: I feel like she got poked in the eye, or got glass in her eye in some bar fight or something, is the story that got told.
1:08:10
Maria Pena: Right.
1:08:11
Marisol: Mmm.
1:08:11
Tad Eggleston: Like, we read it.
1:08:12
Marisol: Also, I'm just noticing. Months ago?
1:08:21
Tad Eggleston: So, I don't know.
1:08:23
Marisol: Hmm.
1:08:24
Maria Pena: I don't know, I can't remember.
1:08:28
Tad Eggleston: So… Yeah.
1:08:32
Maria Pena: I think because we…
1:08:34
Marisol: No idea.
1:08:36
Maria Pena: We jumped from, you know, time and space, and back and forth, and…
1:08:43
Marisol: Well, I also think, like, that panel there, when Maggie's measuring Izzy to see if she's shrunk or grown.
1:08:52
Tad Eggleston: Did she shrink? Did she grow?
1:08:53
Marisol: He just looks like a fucking corpse.
1:08:58
Maria Pena: Oh, for that matter.
1:08:59
Tad Eggleston: I love the…
1:09:02
Tad Eggleston: Let me put the sheets back on the bed. They're still pretty clean. I was gonna do laundry, but…
1:09:08
Tad Eggleston: Okay, I guess we don't have to have sheets.
1:09:15
Maria Pena: Easy, it's already off, you know…
1:09:17
Tad Eggleston: Oh, cool.
1:09:17
Maria Pena: Leaving.
1:09:18
Marisol: You are.
1:09:19
Tad Eggleston: But that also makes the measuring scene so much better, because you've got the bare mattress under Izzy.
1:09:26
Maria Pena: Yeah, it's just…
1:09:27
Marisol: Is he just having laid down on her back.
1:09:29
Tad Eggleston: Right.
1:09:30
Marisol: Not moved at all.
1:09:30
Tad Eggleston: Right, right.
1:09:32
Maria Pena: She's… she's, very deeply asleep.
1:09:38
Marisol: I feel like every time we see Izzy, she is more and more… Ghoulish-looking.
1:09:45
Maria Pena: Mmm.
1:09:46
Tad Eggleston: and…
1:09:46
Marisol: It's just very gaunt and… lanky.
1:09:50
Tad Eggleston: Nam.
1:09:51
Maria Pena: Yeah, well, he's… she's not a well woman, you know, is he?
1:09:56
Marisol: No.
1:09:58
Maria Pena: I think she forgets to eat, and, you know…
1:10:02
Tad Eggleston: I think she forgets a lot of things.
1:10:05
Maria Pena: Yeah.
1:10:08
Tad Eggleston: And I also think she can't forget a lot of things.
1:10:12
Maria Pena: Yeah.
1:10:12
Maria Pena: Excellent.
1:10:13
Marisol: part of the problem.
1:10:15
Maria Pena: Yeah.
1:10:17
Tad Eggleston: So glad to have Lovin' Rockets back.
1:10:22
Tad Eggleston: I was living rockets.
1:10:23
Tad Eggleston: It, like, rejuvenates me for… the next… .
1:10:29
Maria Pena: 24 hours of the.
1:10:31
Tad Eggleston: No, no.
1:10:32
Tad Eggleston: I was just thinking, well, yeah, I meant the next, right now, I think it's 42 issues.
1:10:40
Tad Eggleston: 19… 19 more Love & Rockets, 8 news stories, and I think we have 15.
1:10:48
Maria Pena: Don't make me do math.
1:10:51
Tad Eggleston: That's why I'm the one.
1:10:52
Marisol: I really didn't matter.
1:10:53
Tad Eggleston: Oh, that's Saturday.
1:10:55
Marisol: On a Saturday.
1:10:58
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but I'm autistic, I like math. I mean, I don't… I don't like math class, I hate math class, but I have…
1:11:05
Tad Eggleston: come to… to… to realize that I… that I like.
1:11:11
Marisol: Hmm.
1:11:15
Tad Eggleston: Oh, they're also.
1:11:16
Marisol: I'll let you do the math.
1:11:17
Tad Eggleston: original Locas.
1:11:21
Tad Eggleston: Which is the… the… the… it's just the Maggie and Hopi stories from, like, the first 50?
1:11:29
Tad Eggleston: So that's coming out in January.
1:11:33
Tad Eggleston: Good.
1:11:38
Tad Eggleston: Mmm, is 13 the most recent? No, no, there's 15. Yeah.
1:11:47
Tad Eggleston: So… Number 15 came out in… no, that's May of 24.
1:11:55
Marisol: I don't…
1:11:57
Tad Eggleston: So maybe we're up to 16.
1:12:00
Tad Eggleston: Gotta be.
1:12:02
Tad Eggleston: I don't think they're coming out THAT rarely.
1:12:09
Tad Eggleston: Though, actually… that's the one that's coming up… No.
1:12:16
Tad Eggleston: Most recently by… Release date, I don't know. Something like that. We'll figure it out as we go.
1:12:25
Tad Eggleston: All sorts of stuff, and…
1:12:28
Marisol: Yeah.
1:12:31
Marisol: More fun stuff to look forward to now.
1:12:34
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
1:12:36
Tad Eggleston: And then more fun stuff, and then more fun stuff, and then…
1:12:40
Tad Eggleston: When we actually manage to have read all of it, then we get to sit back and go, do we wanna… do we wanna read it all in a different way, where we read the stories together, rather than…
1:12:49
Tad Eggleston: Separate, like, because some of them are definitely a different experience when you read them like, all of…
1:12:58
Tad Eggleston: human diastrophism.
1:13:00
Tad Eggleston: like, together.
1:13:01
Marisol: In one chunk.
1:13:03
Marisol: Sprinkles.
1:13:03
Tad Eggleston: Oh, God.
1:13:03
Marisol: other issues.
1:13:05
Tad Eggleston: Julio's Day, in particular, very different reading.
1:13:10
Tad Eggleston: When you read it as a graphic novel.
1:13:14
Marisol: That'd be a good idea.
1:13:15
Tad Eggleston: So, that's how we can keep the Love & Rockets Book Club going, even after we run out of Love & Rockets, is we'll start the Love & Rockets reread in a different way.
1:13:27
Marisol: Let's do the.
1:13:28
Tad Eggleston: Complete stuff.
1:13:29
Marisol: stories.
1:13:29
Tad Eggleston: There are so many different ways to read it, too, that, like…
1:13:33
Tad Eggleston: You know, we can keep this going for a while, and by the time… by the time we've done all the different ways, we'll be ready to go single issue again.
1:13:43
Maria Pena: Yeah, when you kicked…
1:13:46
Marisol: Oh, man.
1:13:47
Tad Eggleston: I mean, all of the other… all of the other book clubs…
1:13:51
Tad Eggleston: Except Heavy Metal, where there's just so many of them that it's gonna be a long time before we actually hit them all. All the other book clubs that I have going, there's a part of me that's like, okay, when we hit the end of this.
1:14:03
Tad Eggleston: Like, what do we want to morph to? Like, Saga, and you miss Saga, Marisol.
1:14:09
Marisol: Damn, it's.
1:14:09
Tad Eggleston: I sent out the email reminder, but I forgot to text you individually. The bigger the group is, the less likely I am to send out an individual text, so pay attention to your emails.
1:14:20
Marisol: I'm working on it.
1:14:24
Tad Eggleston: I pay attention to my Google Calendar, not always my email.
1:14:28
Marisol: fortunately.
1:14:28
Tad Eggleston: Well, you know what? I send the Google Calendar invite, so all you have to do is say yes, and it'll be on your Google Calendar.
1:14:35
Marisol: Yeah, it should be there.
1:14:37
Tad Eggleston: Right. I'll have to…
1:14:39
Marisol: I'll have to see, because I don't know why I missed that last one. Yeah. I was expecting it, and I was excited for it, and then I don't know if just… I accidentally…
1:14:48
Marisol: Threw away the reminder that it gave me.
1:14:50
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, who knows? Who knows?
1:14:52
Marisol: to the.
1:14:53
Tad Eggleston: But yeah.
1:14:54
Tad Eggleston: where I was really going is, like, if the Saga Book Club enjoys itself, like, after 13 volumes, we gotta figure out something else. Like…
1:15:02
Marisol: Yeah.
1:15:03
Tad Eggleston: Maybe 14 volumes, because, like, they'll continue writing while we're going, but, like.
1:15:10
Tad Eggleston: you know, the Jack Kirby book club. After X number of volumes, we gotta figure out something else, you know?
1:15:18
Marisol: Yeah.
1:15:18
Tad Eggleston: That sort of thing. I feel like the Love & Rockets Book Club, even once we've caught up, we can still find ways to just explore Love and Rockets in a different way every week.
1:15:31
Marisol: Oh, absolutely.
1:15:31
Tad Eggleston: For a long, long, long, long time.
1:15:35
Maria Pena: We still get ahead of ourselves, we still got our feet to go, so…
1:15:38
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we still got a year before it becomes an issue, so maybe you guys will decide you hate me by then, but I hope not.
1:15:45
Maria Pena: No, I didn't.
1:15:47
Tad Eggleston: Who doesn't.
1:15:48
Marisol: the future holds.
1:15:49
Tad Eggleston: Please don't… please don't hold you guys deciding you hate me. I don't, I don't want that as.
1:15:54
Marisol: No.
1:15:56
Maria Pena: Alright.
1:15:57
Tad Eggleston: For Maria.
1:15:58
Tad Eggleston: And Marisol, this has been the Love & Rockets Book Club on 22 panels. We will see you after the next page.