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The Women of Urban Legends: Part 2 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane.
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Speaker 1: Never told your production of Higher Radio. Okay, Annie, I
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Speaker 1: really wanted to ask you this on the last episode,
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Speaker 1: and I forgot and I was excited about the movies
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Speaker 1: because you know, we're talking about all the legends. But
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Speaker 1: have you ever gone on any of the ghost tours
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Speaker 1: that are offered and or have you gone on your
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Speaker 1: own adventure in an where they're supposed to be else
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Speaker 1: booklore or a legend or a haunt on your own? Yes,
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Speaker 1: yes to all, yes, yes, someone who likes her I
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Speaker 1: have done a lot of ghost tours. Um like Savannah
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Speaker 1: and Louisiana are coming to mind, because those are kind
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Speaker 1: of big lots of ghost stories and Laura around those areas.
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Speaker 1: I've done that. I think I did some when I
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Speaker 1: was in Europe and one when I was in a
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Speaker 1: cave system in your and that's probably the most afraid
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Speaker 1: I've ever been, but I think had more to do
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Speaker 1: with the caves and lessen. And then, like I said,
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Speaker 1: I I do like scary things, so I have I
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Speaker 1: have a friend Katie who's been on the show, and
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Speaker 1: she also likes scary things, and I think we build
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Speaker 1: each other up. Like I think sometimes where nothing is happening,
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Speaker 1: we both convinced each other something is happening. So we're
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Speaker 1: convinced we've seen a ghost, even though like not even
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Speaker 1: sure I believe ghost. Sorryal, but like when I was
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Speaker 1: a kid, we convinced each other we've seen this ghost.
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Speaker 1: We went like we convinced ourselves there's all kinds of
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Speaker 1: haunted stuff in our woods, and we would go and
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Speaker 1: investigate and pick up clues and find like a turtle,
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Speaker 1: what's blood on it? Ghost? Things like that with blood.
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Speaker 1: Oh the turtle shell had blood on it. I still
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Speaker 1: haven't freaked me out. And then we found a mailbox
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Speaker 1: that was buried and it just had these business cards
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Speaker 1: that said do as I say and not as I do.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a murderer. Things like that,
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Speaker 1: and then I definitely there were some urban leugends around
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Speaker 1: where I grew up, and one most of them just
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Speaker 1: involved like don't go into Dawsonville Forest at night, but
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Speaker 1: there was one where you would go. Probably a lot
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Speaker 1: of people have heard this because I think like any
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Speaker 1: town that has the right hill for this has tried it.
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Speaker 1: But it was like you would go and park on
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Speaker 1: this hill and put yourself in neutral and it would
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Speaker 1: pull you upboard or something. And there's a scientific reason
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Speaker 1: for why that works, but of course there's also like
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Speaker 1: ghost stories around why it works. So I did that once,
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Speaker 1: and I mean it was pretty weird, but I didn't
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Speaker 1: really scare me. I was just like, yeah, So I
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Speaker 1: don't typically do like the savantage ward where they just
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Speaker 1: carry you, know, you ride in the horse cart and
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Speaker 1: they'll tell you about buildings. I didn't do that. Have
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Speaker 1: I done those? No, I've never done those because I'm like,
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Speaker 1: it's just getting on a horse and looking at buildings,
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Speaker 1: which is nice, but I'm like, that's not a thing
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Speaker 1: I want. Because I for the longest time devoured every
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Speaker 1: episode of ghost Hunter. Oh yeah uh, And I would
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Speaker 1: watch all those and it was hilarious because like every
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Speaker 1: time anything scary happened, there was nothing. You could barely
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Speaker 1: see anything, and I was like, what you're supposed to
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Speaker 1: look at? I don't understand the investigation party you're staying.
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Speaker 1: So I really was like, I can do this. Let
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Speaker 1: me do this. And then like there was another one
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the show. I loved
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Speaker 1: him and he would actually travel around the world, but
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Speaker 1: it would just be like finding that. So if they
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Speaker 1: would do uh, you know, the whole finding the jetty
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Speaker 1: and the force in China. I know he visited the
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Speaker 1: Suicide Forest in Japan for a while and like did
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Speaker 1: those things and super eerie things. But of course the
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Speaker 1: night vision stuff maybe even every year still let me see.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, why why am I watching this?
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Speaker 1: But you know that intensity. So I was bound and determined,
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Speaker 1: like I want to go to these things. So for
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Speaker 1: my birthday, two of my good friends, I decided to
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Speaker 1: purchase Ghost Toward essentially a ghost walk which happened at
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Speaker 1: night near Halloween because it was near my birthday, so
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Speaker 1: during the October September time. And it's in Roswell, Georgia.
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Speaker 1: So for those of you who do not know the
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Speaker 1: area very well, Roswell, Georgia is one of the small
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Speaker 1: mill towns that actually never burned down during the Civil
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Speaker 1: War when Sherman marched through it was salvage, so the
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Speaker 1: mills still exist and the older buildings still exists. A
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Speaker 1: lot more history there than pretty much all of Georgia
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Speaker 1: because it was burned down sadly enough. Don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: it happened, it had happened, but all of those to say,
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Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of historical things, and the
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Speaker 1: mills of Roswell remains, so of course we get a
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Speaker 1: good amount of tails come from that area, which I love.
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Speaker 1: So we did a whole tour and I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I don't think this woman was an actress, Like she
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Speaker 1: was definitely just like dry talking about whatever is happening.
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Speaker 1: So she was a historian, but she was also very
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Speaker 1: into the ghost world. So she would take us on
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, not middle of the night,
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Speaker 1: I guess, like e a p m. Seven seven a
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Speaker 1: pm when it was super dark, got her flashlights. We
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Speaker 1: had to have our flashlights, and we toured around Roswell
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Speaker 1: and at one point, like we went by the mills
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Speaker 1: and she told the story of a young boy running
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Speaker 1: out the door and her and her crew witnessed it.
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Speaker 1: Of course, all of these different tales. And at one
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Speaker 1: point we were at a I want to say, it's
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Speaker 1: a some kind of antique store, so it was preserved
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Speaker 1: and antiques are there and you can see them in
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Speaker 1: the building, and she's pointing her flashlight up, which was
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Speaker 1: a gigantic flashlight it starts flickering and doing the flashing,
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Speaker 1: and it like she kept hitting it, and she genuinely
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Speaker 1: seemed annoyed, but she wasn't like associating it. It's a
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Speaker 1: ghost story that she just did this to the point
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Speaker 1: that my friend and I looked at each other and
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Speaker 1: started backing away and looking out at the windows because
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Speaker 1: she was talking about seeing an old man in the
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Speaker 1: window whatever whatnot. And she was like, well, I guess
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Speaker 1: somebody need new batteries. And then we talked to for
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Speaker 1: a minute and then walked away, and the the flashlight
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Speaker 1: started working again, to the point that someone was coming up,
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Speaker 1: walking up on us, and she thought she knew them,
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Speaker 1: so she flashed. She pointed the flash at it and
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Speaker 1: using at him, and it turned out to be a cop,
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Speaker 1: and he got very angry and yelled at the other
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Speaker 1: scary part of the tour, like our person was about
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Speaker 1: to be arrested. But like she did all of that.
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Speaker 1: So for a few minutes, I was like, did we
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Speaker 1: were worried I encounter a ghost or was she just
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Speaker 1: like an actress? I don't know, I don't know. So
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Speaker 1: I did that one, and then there was a whole
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Speaker 1: legend that happens at the University of Georgia. Of course,
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Speaker 1: you know, you have to have tons of legends at
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Speaker 1: your schools, and it's always someone who died by suicide
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Speaker 1: was not found for days later. And yes, I know
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Speaker 1: they did because we did a comparison. But there was
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Speaker 1: one because there, at one point in time, there was
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Speaker 1: a building and I never understood this, and when I
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Speaker 1: see anything like this anywhere, because I've seen a couple,
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Speaker 1: I get really freaked out. There was a stairwell that
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Speaker 1: just went to a wall and that was the end
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Speaker 1: of it, and everybody's like, what is this? And so
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Speaker 1: the story was told that it used to be a dormitory.
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Speaker 1: An exchange student was there. He had hanged himself and
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Speaker 1: because everybody was on vacation, no one saw him. But
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Speaker 1: of course his corpse smelled up the place, so they
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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it. So they just sealed it off.
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Speaker 1: And that's the legend of that because no one could
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Speaker 1: find the entrance. And and I've been there because we
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Speaker 1: were like what is this? And so of course we
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Speaker 1: had that and we try to find the spirit there.
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Speaker 1: Find that spirit though, good, I guess. So that reminds
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Speaker 1: me of when we did our episode on the Winchester House,
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Speaker 1: that's that feels very like stor to nowhere. But we
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Speaker 1: were all like, why does this exist? What is this?
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Speaker 1: It's probably something very simple, probably, I mean to be honest.
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Speaker 1: They're like, is this and it was cheaper to do
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Speaker 1: this because it's damaged? Okay, fine, yeah, fine, stories I
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Speaker 1: did go to I went to the Stanley Hotel, which
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Speaker 1: is what the Shining is based on. I went during
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Speaker 1: July because it's only open, just like in the movie,
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Speaker 1: the snows get so bad you can only get there
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Speaker 1: in July, I think. Um. And it was really really
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Speaker 1: funny because we did a tour of it and the
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Speaker 1: very kind tour woman went out of her way to
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Speaker 1: just be like, there are no mean ghosts here, only
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Speaker 1: nice ghost I don't know what Stephen King, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what happened to him that night. I think he
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Speaker 1: was just stressed. But they are only nice ghosts. They
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Speaker 1: just are children. They like candy. You just I don't know.
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Speaker 1: And it was so funny because they kept and I
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Speaker 1: get why, because they were like, we want you to
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Speaker 1: have a good they have to know that. Like everyone
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Speaker 1: there though shining, and like one person is like hotels
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Speaker 1: and people like there's the attic. Some part of the
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Speaker 1: movie is based on it and it has read just
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Speaker 1: people keep writing red rum on it. And she was
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Speaker 1: so annoyed. She was like, it's not like that at all.
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Speaker 1: Stop be smart, I would go. It was very very cute, honestly.
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Speaker 1: All right. So all of that is a lead into
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Speaker 1: our part two on women in urban legends from all
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Speaker 1: around the world. If you haven't listened to part one
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Speaker 1: and go check that one out. And just a really
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Speaker 1: brief repeat of our disclaimer. There will be some gruesomeness
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Speaker 1: we've already touched on some so apologies. Nothing too in
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Speaker 1: depth though, and also, as we said in the last one,
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Speaker 1: we tried to get the best sources we could. But
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Speaker 1: these are urban legends, so by nature it's hard to
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Speaker 1: find like proof, and in fact it purposely almost doesn't
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Speaker 1: exist because they're an urban legend. It's just the story
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Speaker 1: people will repeat over and over, usually because of some
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Speaker 1: morality tale or some lesson some anxietal fear that we're
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Speaker 1: having is anxietal a word. I just made it one
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Speaker 1: um in her in our society, so you know that
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Speaker 1: being said, all of these are just I mean mostly
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Speaker 1: they're just stories that we tell and they do like
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Speaker 1: scars and that's fun. But you know a lot of
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Speaker 1: facts being here. Not too many facts now, yes, um.
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Speaker 1: And also we've done a bunch of past episodes related
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Speaker 1: to lots of stuff we're talking about. We shouted those
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Speaker 1: out in part one. You want to listen to more
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Speaker 1: and you haven't heard those, go check them out because
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Speaker 1: we we love these kinds of things and we've talked
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Speaker 1: about it a lot. So all right, So I actually
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Speaker 1: this one is an interesting one, um, But I wanted
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Speaker 1: to include it because one of my favorite things about
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Speaker 1: urban legends, and we talked about in the last episode
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Speaker 1: are these like rules are things you can do to
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Speaker 1: protect yourself or bring favor or whatever it is. I
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Speaker 1: don't know why, but there's something about that that I
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Speaker 1: find really interesting, especially as we've said, I don't believe
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Speaker 1: in them, but I still don't want to mess with it.
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Speaker 1: So I just find that it's such an interesting piece
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Speaker 1: of human nature. So we're talking about the Mistress of
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Speaker 1: bur Mountain, and I did have a lot of trouble
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Speaker 1: hunting down info in English for this one. Even though
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Speaker 1: there are some fairy tales that you can find in Russian,
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Speaker 1: but I did want to include it because it has
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Speaker 1: a lot of contradictions and superstitions around it. The Mistress
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Speaker 1: of the Copper Mountain, also known as the Malachite Maid,
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Speaker 1: or also a lot of times referred to as the
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Speaker 1: ancestor a parallel of the ASoft Girl, is a mountain
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Speaker 1: spirit frequently associated with the Earl Mountains. The Copper Mountain
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Speaker 1: is the oldest mine in the Earl Mountains, and this
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Speaker 1: mistress is both beautiful protector and demonic punisher. Yes. In
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Speaker 1: Slavic mythology, she is described as an extremely attractive young
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Speaker 1: woman with green eyes, a lizard crown, and a malachite dress.
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Speaker 1: Jewels and lizards feature very often in her story. In
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Speaker 1: some versions, she's got like an army of lizards that
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Speaker 1: does her bidding swards. What is without lizards? I know, people,
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Speaker 1: a lizard apparely does a thing. Huh it is? I
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Speaker 1: can't wait till you watch silent anyway, So this this
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Speaker 1: mistress is viewed as something like a saint for male
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Speaker 1: miners and a protector of mountain treasures. Treasures she may
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Speaker 1: allow the mining of or not, depending on a lot
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Speaker 1: of moral judgments. She'll make the Mistress did not allow
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Speaker 1: for other women in her domain. Men who longed for
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Speaker 1: her patronage were not to marry. She appreciated kindness, goodness,
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Speaker 1: and skilled craftsmanship and would reward all of those things.
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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, she punished those that did
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Speaker 1: not adhere to her rules and were unkind, and she
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Speaker 1: would punish them with either loss of luck or wealth,
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Speaker 1: or even death, even death. Children were told that making
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Speaker 1: any loud noise near the mountains would incur the Mistress's
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Speaker 1: wrath because she didn't like loud noises, which I find
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Speaker 1: funny because that's another contradiction because I feel like mining
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Speaker 1: can get quite loud. Right. She quote brings woe for
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Speaker 1: a bad man, which, yeah, we talked about. That's a
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Speaker 1: recurring theme and a lot of these about it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's true. In pavel, Baso first published The Malachite Box,
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Speaker 1: which was a series of fairy tales, and one of
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Speaker 1: them featured the Mistress of the Copper Mountain, a tale
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Speaker 1: Baso had grown up hearing. He went on to include
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Speaker 1: her and several other stories, and he claimed that her
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Speaker 1: story was a sign that miners just missed women, and
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Speaker 1: then she represented wealth and beauty. Many men saw after
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Speaker 1: a partner. There's also an interesting essay because there's been
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Speaker 1: some research done on this legend. A lot of it
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Speaker 1: went over my head because i I'm not familiar, super
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Speaker 1: familiar with Russian culture, but there's been some research that
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Speaker 1: she she represented like Western beauty specifically, which was interesting.
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Speaker 1: The Earl Mountains do you have a long history of
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Speaker 1: being central to that region's industry, whether it was the
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Speaker 1: mining of jewels or later materials for the military. And
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Speaker 1: it makes sense that this story really took off, that
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Speaker 1: it took root and solidified itself in the national psyche,
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Speaker 1: that men working in the minds would hold on to
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Speaker 1: this idea of a beautiful woman who would keep them
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Speaker 1: safe if they were good and punish the bad, which
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you would never think was you mining, It
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Speaker 1: was dangerous. Many miners died due to the conditions. Some
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Speaker 1: of you even speculated that workers saw her as a
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Speaker 1: defender for their rights, even in like the USSR and
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Speaker 1: times like that. Something she is an embodiment of Christian values.
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Speaker 1: Others think that she has undeniably pagan roots. According to
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Speaker 1: a paper written by Mark Lipovetski, she represents three Freudian
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Speaker 1: ideas death drive because that's where she lives. Sex drive,
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Speaker 1: men's desire for her, and castration anxiety are a loss
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Speaker 1: of power. So again, there's just a lot going on
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Speaker 1: in this one kind of seemingly simple story, but there
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Speaker 1: are reasons these stories are created and get told over
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Speaker 1: and over and over again. Right, that's interesting. I like
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Speaker 1: it though, mm hmmmm. It was really fascinating read and
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Speaker 1: it made me want to look more into the whole
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Speaker 1: history of these mountains. And I was like, this is
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Speaker 1: a different podcast you've got here, but I was looking
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Speaker 1: at like old mining charts. Of course you did, um did.
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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about La dam lunch, y'all.
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Speaker 1: I'm struggling with the French and I really want to
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Speaker 1: make it Spanish, so I apologize beforehand. Um. And she
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Speaker 1: is also known as the Woman in White, and yes,
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Speaker 1: there are several variations, as we've already talked about, uh
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Speaker 1: this lore and it exists throughout different cultures, but for
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Speaker 1: right now, we're talking about the French lady and actually
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Speaker 1: within French culture, but there are several versions of the
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Speaker 1: Woman in White as well. But there is a differentiation
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Speaker 1: between Woman in White and laydown Blanche. But as with
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Speaker 1: most folklores and legends. Uh, there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: crossovers and variations, So apologies in advance if you think
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Speaker 1: that we have messed it all up. But this is
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Speaker 1: what we saw, so this is what we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about. But for this one, the don blanche are
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Speaker 1: typically seen on bridges or by bodies of waters. And
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Speaker 1: then there are some versions that also say they reside
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Speaker 1: by caves, caverns, or ravines, so good to know that too, um,
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Speaker 1: and they are dressed all in white and it's in
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Speaker 1: these locations much like our ferry vampires that we mentioned before.
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Speaker 1: They also love to dance. Dancing is a big portion
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Speaker 1: to this, but in this instance it isn't a way
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Speaker 1: to put you in a trance. But if you refuse
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Speaker 1: her or you try to stop before she wants to stop,
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Speaker 1: she's going to throw you into the water and drown you,
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Speaker 1: or have an animal coming and assist to make them
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Speaker 1: eat you. Okay, okay, so just just dance. Okay, you're
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Speaker 1: just gonna need to dance. But where did they come from? Well, yes,
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Speaker 1: this is a great question because unlike many of the
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Speaker 1: other legends, we don't have much of a backstory for
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Speaker 1: the dumb blanche. They don't really have a really origin um.
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Speaker 1: We don't know if he was burned by a lover
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Speaker 1: or she was locked away from attending a ball because
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Speaker 1: this is what I'm imagining, say, she loves dance, and
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Speaker 1: unlike the other lady in white stories in France, which
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Speaker 1: apparently typically has the tragedy of an unfaithful husband and
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Speaker 1: the death of their children, which causes her to lash
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Speaker 1: out against other men and children, which is what this
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Speaker 1: lady in white does in France. They she goes after
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Speaker 1: and may cause an accident or some something for them
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Speaker 1: to get hurt or die. We don't have that same
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Speaker 1: backstory for this specific folklore. And they typically don't have
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Speaker 1: a preference in gender and just likes dancing and according
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Speaker 1: to one side, is complicated dacy. So I don't know,
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Speaker 1: just like you need to know ball room dance or salsa.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can break out with an eighties
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Speaker 1: Roger rabbit dance. I would be great at that though,
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Speaker 1: But and you have to keep going until she is satisfied.
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Speaker 1: And one of the best known dums is La Dame
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Speaker 1: de Prickney, who actually, y'all, my friends, is bad. I
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Speaker 1: just said y'all. So I feel like there's a reference
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Speaker 1: to how bad it is who actually likes to haunt
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Speaker 1: streets and not necessarily bridges. And according to one guide
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Speaker 1: about ghost travels, and I want to go to this
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Speaker 1: by the way, it states that quote, she has no
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Speaker 1: backstory and no history, but somehow a legend began of
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Speaker 1: her appearing on what is present day russ Saint Quentin
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Speaker 1: Bayou in the northwest of France, and that allegedly she
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Speaker 1: would greet those who would attempt to pass through the
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Speaker 1: Narrabra ravine with an extended hand, and it accepted, she
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Speaker 1: would dance several rounds of the most elaborate dances, keeping
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Speaker 1: the human for extensive periods of time, before eventually letting
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Speaker 1: her partner go. If it refused, however, she would pounce
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Speaker 1: onto her victim before throwing him or her into the
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Speaker 1: ditch filled with briars and thorns. Right, So it's a
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Speaker 1: very interesting kind of legend with no real backstory other
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Speaker 1: than they are the beautiful version of a troll out
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Speaker 1: of bridge, I guess. And instead of answering the riddles three,
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Speaker 1: you have to dance elaborate dances. So I guess we're
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Speaker 1: gonna have to figure some of those things out. So
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Speaker 1: also while we're talking about women in specific colors, where
19:42
Speaker 1: you can talk a little bit about the Lady in
19:44
Speaker 1: Red just for frenzies. Um, yes, there are those legends
19:48
Speaker 1: with the lady in Red, and I believe we've mentioned
19:50
Speaker 1: her in our episode in the Power of Red, like
19:53
Speaker 1: just kind of the whole stereotype and what it often
19:56
Speaker 1: is in legends, except there's a version, and it's the
20:00
Speaker 1: typical version. There's no real like area that they haunt necessarily,
20:04
Speaker 1: but if you go there's lists on lists on the list,
20:06
Speaker 1: and there's a lot in the US that I've noticed,
20:09
Speaker 1: um that there are either a jilted lover or a
20:12
Speaker 1: prostitute who was killed in a fit of passion, or
20:15
Speaker 1: sometimes just a vain woman in red, which we've heard
20:18
Speaker 1: that concept of like oh, she looks she's looking at herself,
20:20
Speaker 1: the red lipstick type of and then when she appears,
20:24
Speaker 1: she's either dressed all in scarlet or in a blood
20:26
Speaker 1: red dress, or she's covered in blood sometimes and she
20:29
Speaker 1: that's what based the red right, and it's typically the
20:32
Speaker 1: ghost who appears throughout different cultures, but not necessarily do
20:36
Speaker 1: anything delicious like there have never been any real tales
20:38
Speaker 1: of them doing anything harmful, but just likes to haunt
20:41
Speaker 1: specific places like again hotels and theaters. Yeah, yeah, I
20:45
Speaker 1: looked into that one. And I looked into the Lady
20:46
Speaker 1: in White based on because that's the first episode of Supernatural,
20:50
Speaker 1: right is the Lady White White? Yeah? And I what
20:53
Speaker 1: I found basically was a bunch of like very specific,
20:57
Speaker 1: unverified stories about checkers or like seeing them on the road,
21:01
Speaker 1: not even necessary checkers, but like seeing them by the
21:04
Speaker 1: side of the road. And that's very common actually in
21:07
Speaker 1: a lot of urban legends are just ghost stories. Yeah.
21:10
Speaker 1: So that's pretty much all I could find as well.
21:12
Speaker 1: But again, listeners, if you've got like a specific story
21:15
Speaker 1: or something you want to add, please list right. It
21:19
Speaker 1: seems like the Lady in Red is nicer than the
21:21
Speaker 1: Lady in White, so maybe we would rather see the
21:23
Speaker 1: Lady in Red, which is not so much the Lady
21:27
Speaker 1: in white. She will make you do some things, She's sad,
21:33
Speaker 1: She's gonna make you feel feel a certain way about it,
21:37
Speaker 1: all right, So I wanted to talk about the Nari
21:40
Speaker 1: Fun or Nary Fun apologies in advance. Um, we did
21:46
Speaker 1: want to cover things from all around the world. But
21:48
Speaker 1: that does mean the pronunciation might not be there. And
21:52
Speaker 1: I tried to look up the pronunciation for this and
21:54
Speaker 1: I could not track it down. And a lot of
21:56
Speaker 1: this story was hard to track down as well. But
21:59
Speaker 1: I did want to talk about it because when I
22:00
Speaker 1: was reading about it just immediately caught my attention. So
22:03
Speaker 1: the nary fahn are the macaifon. It's the type of
22:07
Speaker 1: tree in Buddhist mythology that grows fruit shaped like young women.
22:13
Speaker 1: They sprout from their heads and grow from there. And
22:16
Speaker 1: this tree grows in the mythical forest at the Hima Faun,
22:20
Speaker 1: where local men cut them off and eat them. The
22:24
Speaker 1: nary faun also show up in the vest Centaur Jataka,
22:27
Speaker 1: planted around the place where the body Satva vest Centaura meditated.
22:34
Speaker 1: Sorry again trying the best good win and one version
22:37
Speaker 1: of the tail. The Buddhist god Indra had a home
22:40
Speaker 1: at the edge of the forest with his wife vest
22:42
Speaker 1: Centara and their two children. The Centara couldn't enter the
22:46
Speaker 1: forest without being in danger of horrifying male creatures, or
22:50
Speaker 1: in some versions of the story, just lustful men who
22:53
Speaker 1: had acquired powers by meditating. But we're still like lustful men,
22:56
Speaker 1: which I thought was a very funny and terrifying commentary
22:59
Speaker 1: of men are just monsters in this case okay um
23:06
Speaker 1: and so to protect her injured, planted twelve nary fund
23:09
Speaker 1: trees that would grow fruit that looked like his wife
23:12
Speaker 1: so that she could be safe while picking fruit. The
23:15
Speaker 1: idea being the monster's foreman would pick the fruit and
23:19
Speaker 1: take it home, thinking it was wes Centura and leaving
23:22
Speaker 1: the real Vsentara alone. But they would take the fruit home,
23:26
Speaker 1: have sex with the fruit, and consequently fall into an
23:29
Speaker 1: enchanted sleep for four months and lose their powers. Over
23:34
Speaker 1: the years, there have been a few news stories of
23:37
Speaker 1: the purported discovery of the trees um that grew fruits
23:40
Speaker 1: shaped like women. You can buy a lot of markets
23:43
Speaker 1: around their sell I mean generally fake, but yeah, you
23:46
Speaker 1: can buy buy uh kind of like carvings or even fruit.
23:51
Speaker 1: There are a few trees that are rumored to bean
23:53
Speaker 1: eary Fund and several hoaxes around that. Uh. Nary fun
23:57
Speaker 1: are very prevalent in Thai culture. Yeah, they appear in
23:59
Speaker 1: common x sold as gifts, popular ambulet and charm um.
24:03
Speaker 1: So it's another example kind of this story that is
24:07
Speaker 1: just really taking heart in in a particular place, which
24:11
Speaker 1: I also find fascinating. Yeah, that's very fascinating. M Also,
24:17
Speaker 1: this kind of reminds me of what the short stories
24:19
Speaker 1: that we had, and the birds were the women. The
24:22
Speaker 1: birds were the women. It was one of the bloody tails.
24:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he turned the women into birds to
24:31
Speaker 1: keep them. Mm hmmm, I do you remember that that
24:34
Speaker 1: That's what it reminded me of. And for my last one,
24:38
Speaker 1: I decided to because y'all, there's something about Japanese ghost
24:42
Speaker 1: stories that scared the hell out of me. So they
24:44
Speaker 1: for some reason, Like I just recently watched Juan and
24:49
Speaker 1: it's so old and in comparison to a lot of
24:52
Speaker 1: the other movies and the effects are not over the top,
24:56
Speaker 1: but it scared me, like to the point that I
24:57
Speaker 1: was like, I have to watch something else before I
24:59
Speaker 1: can go to bed. But I love them so much
25:02
Speaker 1: because they just to me our extra eerie and I
25:05
Speaker 1: don't know what it is about how they just make
25:08
Speaker 1: it seem like. But because of that, we're returning back
25:12
Speaker 1: to another Japanese ghost or Japanese legend, which is Kashakona
25:17
Speaker 1: or the slit mouth woman, so super specific um. Now,
25:23
Speaker 1: the spirit has been around according to one report, for
25:26
Speaker 1: over eight hundred years, like people have been talking about
25:28
Speaker 1: it for a while. I did see another report saying
25:30
Speaker 1: that it was started around century. So this is an
25:33
Speaker 1: old tale and she is known as an unreal unio
25:37
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out, y'all, or a malicious spirit.
25:41
Speaker 1: And it's often seen wearing a mask or some type
25:43
Speaker 1: of face covering, and it's often seen carrying around a
25:46
Speaker 1: sharp object, so it could be a large knife, some
25:48
Speaker 1: say scissors, very long scissors, but she's carrying something sharp.
25:52
Speaker 1: And now her origin story is a cautionary tale for
25:55
Speaker 1: the women to a not to be vain and be
25:59
Speaker 1: don't cheat. So those two things co hand in hand.
26:02
Speaker 1: H So this beautiful Kachu saki Ona was married to
26:05
Speaker 1: a samurai and she was known to be very vain,
26:09
Speaker 1: but she was also very beautiful, so both of those things.
26:12
Speaker 1: And one day, because she could, she cheated on her
26:17
Speaker 1: husband at the time, and when he found out, yes,
26:20
Speaker 1: he was very angry and enraged and gave her something
26:24
Speaker 1: that is called the Glasgow smile. I didn't know there
26:27
Speaker 1: was a name for this because obviously with the things
26:29
Speaker 1: like the black Dahlia, we knew of this type of crime,
26:33
Speaker 1: and it seemed heinous to me at that point in
26:35
Speaker 1: time as well. But okay, which is when someone causes
26:39
Speaker 1: a scar because they cut into your face that looks
26:42
Speaker 1: like a smile, yes, by cutting from ear to ear horrifying.
26:47
Speaker 1: And then he turned around and said to her, who
26:50
Speaker 1: will think you're pretty? Now? Um? Of course, in another
26:53
Speaker 1: version it said that she's cut up by another woman
26:56
Speaker 1: who is jealous of her doing a medical procedure. And
27:00
Speaker 1: she is also, in these legends sometimes given sharp teeth,
27:03
Speaker 1: which would scare the hell out of me, to be fair,
27:05
Speaker 1: and now she haunts people by asking them the same thing,
27:10
Speaker 1: do you think I'm pretty? While wearing a mask? So
27:13
Speaker 1: if you run into a beautiful Asian woman, as says,
27:16
Speaker 1: do you think I'm pretty that had a face covering,
27:18
Speaker 1: I would run away. If they say no, she kills
27:21
Speaker 1: them with this sharp object she is carrying. Um. If
27:24
Speaker 1: they say yes, she'll take our covering off to show
27:27
Speaker 1: her a scar and asks again. And if they if
27:30
Speaker 1: they say no, she cuts the face and kills them.
27:33
Speaker 1: If they say yes, she cuts their face to match hers,
27:36
Speaker 1: and I believe they also die there saying all those okay,
27:40
Speaker 1: now there is a way to avoid being cut. So, y'all,
27:44
Speaker 1: we're here to help you. If you run into this woman.
27:48
Speaker 1: Instead of saying yes or no when she asks you
27:51
Speaker 1: if you think she's pretty, say so so or average
27:54
Speaker 1: or you're okay, which will give you some time to
27:56
Speaker 1: run away from her, as she's gonna be ok from
28:01
Speaker 1: this answer. Yeah, I know, I was like, what. Or
28:04
Speaker 1: you can try to throw some money at her and
28:06
Speaker 1: that can work, or some hard candies apparently it has
28:10
Speaker 1: to be a specific candy called become, which is a
28:13
Speaker 1: caramelized sugar candy from Japan. So I guess we need
28:17
Speaker 1: to invest in some things. Or perhaps saying the word
28:20
Speaker 1: palm made three times and I don't understand why I
28:23
Speaker 1: try to find this one and there was no reason
28:25
Speaker 1: behind it, and this palmade is typically a French things.
28:29
Speaker 1: I was like that, okay, whatever. Cool. And according to Wikipedia,
28:33
Speaker 1: because you know, they have a lot more legends than some,
28:37
Speaker 1: the first written mention of her didn't appear until nineteen
28:41
Speaker 1: seventy nine. But again, the legend in itself has been
28:44
Speaker 1: around for a while, and according to one telling of
28:47
Speaker 1: this legend, there was a period of time not too
28:51
Speaker 1: long ago, once said two thousand seven, when children were
28:55
Speaker 1: being escorted in fear of this type of monster, because
28:58
Speaker 1: there were records showing of children that were similar to
29:02
Speaker 1: this type of tale, saying that there was a woman
29:05
Speaker 1: roaming around asking children things and then following them home
29:09
Speaker 1: and murdering them essentially. So again, it's not saying that happened,
29:13
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's true because it was
29:15
Speaker 1: all from this legend site. So but it did put
29:18
Speaker 1: that in there, and it could be one more of
29:20
Speaker 1: those again urban legends when we say my cousin's sisters, friends,
29:24
Speaker 1: whatever type of conversation. So doubt that happened, but it
29:29
Speaker 1: did scare him enough that the day I actually did
29:32
Speaker 1: escort some of the children. Again, So apparently Juan and
29:35
Speaker 1: the grudge and the ring were kind of based on
29:38
Speaker 1: these legends. You can see it. You can see the variation,
29:41
Speaker 1: maybe not of the face and all of that, but
29:44
Speaker 1: like the woman who cheated or who was found to
29:46
Speaker 1: have cheated, all of that, and so the husband murders
29:49
Speaker 1: them in like a brutal way, and she comes and
29:52
Speaker 1: murders everybody else as well sometimes. So yeah, this is
29:57
Speaker 1: kind of that basis um. And if you ever see
29:59
Speaker 1: any of the drawings again, some of the legends, some
30:02
Speaker 1: of the movies. It's pretty scary, like it freakes me
30:05
Speaker 1: out for sure. Yeah, yeah, I've seen I've heard of
30:08
Speaker 1: this one before and it that like freaked me out.
30:23
Speaker 1: Oh all right, Well for my last one, it's kind
30:26
Speaker 1: of a cheat because I like to cheat here because
30:30
Speaker 1: it's three Oh my god, Annie, But they're related. They're related,
30:36
Speaker 1: so and they're kind of similar to what we talked
30:38
Speaker 1: about with law Urona and the last one. But all right,
30:42
Speaker 1: we're talking about Pinegal, lamat Shu, and Lambia. And let's
30:46
Speaker 1: start with Lambia. So you've probably heard of this one.
30:50
Speaker 1: It was in It's been kind of the name has
30:52
Speaker 1: been used for a lot of things nowadays, and it
30:54
Speaker 1: was in like the horror movie Dragged Me to Hell Lambia.
30:56
Speaker 1: But all right. In Greek mythology, Lambia was the beautiful
30:59
Speaker 1: holly out after queen of Libya and a mistress of Zeus.
31:02
Speaker 1: Is like a lot of Zeus mistresses. Haara did not
31:05
Speaker 1: like her and punished her by killing or kidnapping her
31:09
Speaker 1: children except for Silah, and transforming Lambia into a monster
31:13
Speaker 1: that feeds on children or in some versions, Zeus did that.
31:16
Speaker 1: Not only that absolutely delighted in hunting and terrifying them,
31:20
Speaker 1: so she not only was hunting them, but she liked it.
31:24
Speaker 1: In some versions, she gouged her eyes at the loss
31:28
Speaker 1: of her children. She gauged her eyes out and essentially
31:30
Speaker 1: lost her mind, leading her to eat the children of others,
31:33
Speaker 1: and some stories, Harra actually has the body of a
31:36
Speaker 1: woman and the tail of a serpent. In many descriptions,
31:39
Speaker 1: she never closes her eyes so she can see the
31:42
Speaker 1: terror of her victims, or she was cursed with insomnia
31:45
Speaker 1: essentially or never being able to close her eyes. Um
31:48
Speaker 1: so yeah, and other versions of the legend. Zeus granted
31:51
Speaker 1: Lambia the power of prophecy and the ability to remove
31:55
Speaker 1: her eyes, since she had been cursed to never close them,
31:59
Speaker 1: so she would always obsess over the death of her
32:01
Speaker 1: children in an attempt to appease her liked. I don't
32:04
Speaker 1: know about that, man, I don't think that's enough. But anyway,
32:07
Speaker 1: on top of hungering for the blood of children, Lambia
32:09
Speaker 1: also had a voracious sexual appetite and enjoyed sucking the
32:13
Speaker 1: blood of men. She was often painted as a deadly
32:17
Speaker 1: seductress and gave birth to a class of supernatural demons.
32:21
Speaker 1: Her story and fear around it has endured and evolved
32:25
Speaker 1: for thousands of years. The word itself can sometimes yeah,
32:30
Speaker 1: refer to this whole class of demons in which is so.
32:32
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is used for for other things and creatures
32:36
Speaker 1: these days. But okay, let's speaking of Let's move on
32:40
Speaker 1: to Lamashtu or she who are races, a demon that
32:46
Speaker 1: was often blamed for illness during childbirth and miscarriages. She
32:50
Speaker 1: bore seven names, so she was sometimes called the seven
32:53
Speaker 1: witches in Mesopotamian times. She was a daughter of one
32:57
Speaker 1: of the greater gods on you, and she manifests does
33:00
Speaker 1: a creature with the head of a lioness with the
33:02
Speaker 1: ears and teeth of a donkey, a hairy body and
33:05
Speaker 1: clawed bird feat. She was believed to cause all kinds
33:09
Speaker 1: of terrible things, like poisoning of water, tetanus, destroying plants,
33:13
Speaker 1: causing nightmares, and a fever that would not go away.
33:17
Speaker 1: She primarily targeted unborn children, though she was set to
33:21
Speaker 1: sneak into the homes of pregnant women to touch their
33:23
Speaker 1: stomach seven times to kill their children. She would kidnap
33:27
Speaker 1: breastfeeding children and kill them by forcing them to drink
33:30
Speaker 1: her own toxic breast milk. She sometimes murdered the mother too,
33:35
Speaker 1: and feasted on the flesh and flood of men who
33:38
Speaker 1: may or made out have been the father. They're just
33:40
Speaker 1: men in general. I think many wore amulets to ward
33:43
Speaker 1: off lamash do pazuzu and yes, that one from the
33:47
Speaker 1: Exorcist of the King of Evil. Win Demons is often
33:51
Speaker 1: depicted driving her back to the nether world. According to
33:56
Speaker 1: one source I found, and it was a German source
33:59
Speaker 1: from red so much later so a grain of salt um.
34:03
Speaker 1: There was even an incantation against the marsh too great
34:06
Speaker 1: is the daughter of Heaven, who tortures babies. Her hand
34:09
Speaker 1: is a net, Her embrace is death. She is cruel, raging, angry, predatory,
34:14
Speaker 1: a runner, a thief. Is the Daughter of Heaven. She
34:16
Speaker 1: touches the bellies of women in labor. She pulls out
34:19
Speaker 1: the pregnant women's baby. The Daughter of Heaven is one
34:21
Speaker 1: of the gods, her brothers, with no child of her own.
34:24
Speaker 1: Her head is a lion's head, her body is a
34:27
Speaker 1: donkey's body. She roars like a lion. She constantly housed
34:30
Speaker 1: like a demon dog. And lastly, let's touch on the
34:38
Speaker 1: Malay figure of Pinagallen. I couldn't find much on her,
34:41
Speaker 1: but she sounds terrifying and the drawings that exist of
34:43
Speaker 1: her are terrifying. This is a creature that takes the
34:47
Speaker 1: form of a woman's head with long hair, and her
34:50
Speaker 1: intestines and spine trailing behind her as she glies. She
34:54
Speaker 1: like removes her head from her body at night, and
34:56
Speaker 1: so it's just her, her head and her spine and
34:59
Speaker 1: intestine floating around. A vampiric creature smells like vinegar. Some
35:05
Speaker 1: say that panagolon is created when a woman meditates, and
35:09
Speaker 1: of that a vinegar, that perhaps a woman was once
35:12
Speaker 1: so deep in meditation that when a man walked in
35:15
Speaker 1: and startled her, she jerked so hard that she decapitated herself.
35:21
Speaker 1: I'm leaving her body in the vinegar, And that as
35:24
Speaker 1: a creature, she soaks her organs in vinegar to make
35:27
Speaker 1: it easier to reattach them after returning from hunting. In
35:32
Speaker 1: many of the stories about her, she is the result
35:34
Speaker 1: of women practicing black magic. In some versions, it is
35:38
Speaker 1: a woman who seeks beauty by adhering to a vegetarian
35:41
Speaker 1: diet for forty days. If she eats meat, before that
35:44
Speaker 1: time is past, she is cursed, who forever spent her
35:46
Speaker 1: days as a monstrous creature eternally hungry for the flesh
35:50
Speaker 1: and blood of pregnant women and children. She might pose
35:54
Speaker 1: as a nanny or a nurse wife during the day,
35:56
Speaker 1: then snatching a child with her invisible tongue through indow
36:00
Speaker 1: or reaching up through the floorboards with her intestines. To
36:05
Speaker 1: keep her away, people with lock windows and doors and
36:07
Speaker 1: board up any entry points like in the floor. Braver
36:10
Speaker 1: folks might try filling her body with glass, like if
36:13
Speaker 1: you can find the body that she left behind, you
36:15
Speaker 1: fill it with glass so that when she returns to
36:17
Speaker 1: reattach her ahead and everything, she dies. But yeah, I
36:22
Speaker 1: thought it's just been interesting. As we said, there's just
36:24
Speaker 1: these common themes throughout and from these stories, there's just
36:28
Speaker 1: so much fear and misunderstanding around illness and pregnancy and
36:31
Speaker 1: miscarriage and childbirth, which you know, in ancient times people
36:35
Speaker 1: didn't know, they didn't know why people were experiencing these
36:38
Speaker 1: things or how they worked, and I'm sure, I mean,
36:42
Speaker 1: it would be terrifying, And these are the stories we
36:46
Speaker 1: told people came up with. But it's pretty freaky. Yeah, yeah,
36:53
Speaker 1: I want to have nightmares, but I'm also gonna watch
36:55
Speaker 1: more movies. But okay, to end it off, I thought
36:59
Speaker 1: we would talk a little bit about bloody Mary, um
37:02
Speaker 1: and not necessarily the origins, and we will tell a
37:04
Speaker 1: little bit about that because I think people typically know,
37:07
Speaker 1: but everybody has some type of I feel like this
37:11
Speaker 1: is one of the bigger of the say it in
37:15
Speaker 1: the mirror see shows thing type of thing. Did you
37:18
Speaker 1: ever try this? Yes, I think, as I said, and
37:21
Speaker 1: the last one I did try it. And so for people,
37:24
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming most people know what we're talking about,
37:26
Speaker 1: but if you don't, it was like this game you
37:29
Speaker 1: would play has been popularized in many movies and TV
37:32
Speaker 1: shows where you would look in the mirror and you
37:36
Speaker 1: would say bloody Mary, either three times or five times,
37:39
Speaker 1: depending on the version you heard, and that if she
37:42
Speaker 1: would show up, and it was usually like a dark
37:44
Speaker 1: haired woman in a white dress covered in blood. And
37:47
Speaker 1: for me, for some reason, like if you did it
37:50
Speaker 1: and you thought it worked, but you weren't sure, you
37:52
Speaker 1: were supposed to get in the tub like say bloody Mary. Again,
37:55
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I got in that tub because
37:57
Speaker 1: I freaked out. I regretted it immediately. Did you do it? Yes,
38:06
Speaker 1: I just did. The mirror version freaked myself out. I
38:09
Speaker 1: could not stand in the bathroom in the dark or
38:11
Speaker 1: anyway with the mirror for the longest time because I
38:13
Speaker 1: freed myself out for so long. Um, And of course
38:17
Speaker 1: it's that whole idea. I know different versions what was
38:20
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Again, I thought she would appear behind
38:23
Speaker 1: you in the mirror, and I recall thinking she was
38:27
Speaker 1: going to kill you. So I'm not sure why we
38:29
Speaker 1: were all about this, but yeah, okay, so yeah, mine
38:33
Speaker 1: was that she would appear and come out of the
38:35
Speaker 1: mirror and kill you, like you were going to die,
38:38
Speaker 1: which is dumb, so why would you try to die?
38:40
Speaker 1: It's I think it's that fear because I was just like,
38:42
Speaker 1: I want to be afraid because I didn't really believe it,
38:46
Speaker 1: but it did scare me. Yeah, I scared me. I
38:48
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily not believe it, but I didn't necessary like,
38:51
Speaker 1: I didn't think too hard to do it. But it
38:53
Speaker 1: scared me to be in the dark in the bathroom
38:55
Speaker 1: with the mirror because you could also see your own
38:57
Speaker 1: damn reflection a little bit even aier, but just so
39:02
Speaker 1: you know, it does originate to Queen Mary Um and
39:05
Speaker 1: kind of some of the things that played into who
39:07
Speaker 1: she was what happened with her apparently includes like she
39:10
Speaker 1: had really bad mistrel pains. She apparently had thought that
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Speaker 1: she was giving birth to a baby but never did
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Speaker 1: um and she had symptoms of as if she was
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Speaker 1: going to have a child. She also was the daughter
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Speaker 1: of King Henry, who she you know, he did all
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Speaker 1: he beheaded every woman essentially, and then she was shying
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Speaker 1: to like according to this, they says she had daddy issues.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this for them as in like she's trying
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Speaker 1: to find affection through other men because of the loss
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Speaker 1: of love of her from her father. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: marry and persecution happened underneath her, which involved dty men
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Speaker 1: sixty women being sentenced to the stake, and so she
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Speaker 1: became Bloody Mary. So she has a whole history and
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Speaker 1: that's kind of the origination. But honestly, that connection never
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Speaker 1: made it to me, like it was so separate from
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Speaker 1: the that is like what but there's different things like
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Speaker 1: this could be this and this is why. But she
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Speaker 1: was nicknamed essentially Bloody Mary because of all the persecution
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Speaker 1: she did against the Protestants. But there you go. I
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Speaker 1: want to know, have any of y'all done this, any
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Speaker 1: of these things and nothing you've seen it? Because I
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Speaker 1: think if you've seen him, you to die. But something
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Speaker 1: weird happened. Yeah, yeah, I mean the power of these
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Speaker 1: stories is amazing because if it's you know, bloody Mary
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Speaker 1: is that old? And then I think I had a
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Speaker 1: particular and a lot of people do. It was like
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Speaker 1: not her at all. It was a woman who had
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Speaker 1: been murdered and was looking for vengeance and just these
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Speaker 1: themes that we see over and over and over again.
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