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Indiana-Northwestern Preview with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (The IU Report, '3.53) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_04]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU report with Grant Shows and Mike Hudsel, their preview of the Hoosiers Big 10 opener against your question on Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's a little bit of a late edition of the IU report this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Indiana takes out North Western on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here, we're gonna break it down, we're gonna preview it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Grant Shaw, with my cuts with nightbikes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In the end, opens up conference play against North Western.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess right off the bat, just tell me how you feel about it going into the odd Friday night game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to it just from the standpoint of it's a step up in competition that we've seen so far this year and right, it is a conference game.
0:53
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where it starts to get real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where people, I think, will actually start to pay attention to Nina this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really feel like they've just kind of been off the grid and doing what they're supposed to do, but who cares, they've beaten three teams they're supposed to be taking care of business and shut out two opponents and the fan base got upset for reasons, I guess, because they didn't win by 60, which was kind of stupid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just looking forward to it because obviously this is when it starts to matter, if you can make the college football playoff for the third straight year, you've got to just start winning these games, I'd go with Western as a better team than I think maybe people thought it was going to be coming into this year, at least they played that way so far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's an interesting matchup because we talked about it a little bit.
1:50
[SPEAKER_02]: On the recap of Western Kentucky, you have Chip Kelly coming in with the worth Western, and he's a pretty known commodity for his offensive mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Coach and the NFL has been a great college coach at the work in almost one national title there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Balls to Cam Newton in the title game, and would do UCLA and did what he could with that program that was going through its own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: issues, but a national title winning coordinator at Ohio State was the coordinator that obviously kind of bullied Brent, Brent Haynes as defense and that game in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they get their work cut out for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the best test we're going to see so far this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm looking forward to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see how this plays out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you what at some
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[SPEAKER_03]: is what it seems like or your favorite NFL team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and maybe thing with Bill O'Brien too, like he's coached at every school in America.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But anyways, yeah, this is a good test here Indiana's going to face eight in child's or quarterback who they've seen the last two years at Michigan State and he's kind of heard Indiana in the last two years at Michigan State.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He heard him in
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[SPEAKER_03]: But a part of that was also Nick Marsh who's now on Indiana, he hitting with a, you know, he hitting for a touchdown in that first game in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were up 10 nothing to start the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was the first time Indiana had trailed all season long and it was up in East Lansing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then last year, he's still on Michigan state with with the Jonathan Smith as the head coach and he busted off over a 60 yard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: touchdown or just a long run and that game I can't remember as a touchdown or not, but he's a guy that's kind of heard Indiana at times.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now you put him in that chip Kelly system.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: David Braun, their head coach Kurt sigdetti set on Thursday on his coaches or yeah on his radio show that he tried to hire David Braun twice at James Madison.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he knows this guy's capable of being a good coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They'd be kind of a
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to say allows the Colorado team to just be to not very good Colorado team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We know and they're not very good and they beat him 41 to seven.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They did probably what their specialists do and win the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think people thought they would blow them out like that, especially their last game on the lake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This North Blaster team is going to be well prepared coming into this game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could see them giving Indiana problems here, but man, when I watch just clips tonight and I don't know if you've seen a Mike of Stignetti in his radio show, he's someone that he seems really relaxed going into this game, probably as relaxed as he's been on that show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I listen to all of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's about as relaxed as I've heard him before I've actually heard the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: which I think is a good fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Indiana is had a good week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope they've had a good week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see on Friday night, but what a test.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you look at it statistically, Indiana leads every statistical category except two on Northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I get that Northwestern's only played two games, but I think that's enough to match it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The only two categories that Northwestern lead
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think 457 yards passing per game Indiana's like 440 and then also fork down conversions, which I'm not sure you can really count that North Lessons 1 for 1 Indiana's like 4 for 6.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of hard to scale that, but nonetheless Indiana has the advantage and they're what 22 23 point favorites this week is am I correct on that is around the three touchdown
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that's about right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess follow up like, do you think that Indiana is gonna be able to cover this week?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The funny thing with North Western is I'm so used to North Western be in a team that
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[SPEAKER_02]: just when you watched them play, especially in the Fitzgerald area, era, they just, they were good, they were always good, they were ardenos, they were tough to be, they played really, really physical football and but you have expected their games to not even be an HD because it just seems so like old school, like just pounded out, full back, off guard, dive plays, because offensively
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[SPEAKER_02]: like to describe Northwestern football through the years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, I applied at school Iowa in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now what you've got, they've been kind of, you know, faster pace, they score 41 in the game against Colorado.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they had 36 in their opener.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're putting points on the board, which is a little fighting because their head coach is proven through the years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can really coach a defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: during his time there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, the other thing I thought was very, very funny is Sig is talked this team up this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not really like him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't really seem to talk a lot about the other team that they're playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He talks a lot about who they are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: what they need, what they need to do, what they're improving on, what they've been working on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's really talked of Northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to you and I, we've talked off the shows like, man, I'm a little concerned about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Satan doesn't really talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Northwestern fans are like the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, God, he knows something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna destroy us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He never talks about anybody like this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna burn us to the ground.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just funny to read the the two perspectives like that because I think we're so used to you know, sighing so buttoned up about everything and not talking about the other team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it any and I got to cover look, they haven't covered any game this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're Owen three against the spread now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Howard game is a little bit of a misnomer because they only played a 10 minute fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They probably would have covered that number of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they haven't gotten, you know, a win against the other Owen three against the spread this year is going to surprise me if they don't cover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but is it going to surprise me if this is one of those games where six been hiding something and they come out like they did in the Illinois game last year and just absolutely would shed somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not going to surprise me either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have, like, if I was betting, I haven't bet this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been staying away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I was a betting person, this game isn't even on my board.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even look at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to enjoy to watching it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One of the numbers that stood out to me that I heard this week was Indiana has only
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[SPEAKER_03]: the opponent in the red zone that sees the four times, only four times is the opponent gotten inside the 20 yard line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're outscoring opponents, the 145 to 16 and again, north blasters only played two games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're outscoring the opponent 75 25.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, tough to gauge.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Indiana 26 tackles for loss this year defensively, they've kept their, they've kept these teams between the 20s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've got nine straight quarters without allowing a point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand, they played Howard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand they played Western Kentucky.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand they had the game in hand against North Texas in the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But this team
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[SPEAKER_03]: right and they want an actual championship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this defense is talked up to what it's supposed to be speaking defensively.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Steven daily and Kellon Wyatt are eligible on Friday night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Will they play?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know honestly from being there at two of the three home games so far.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen Kellon Wyatt on the field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know you've noticed him on TV.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen him on TV.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I missed the honestly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I missed that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much going on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Indiana, having them now where you know, you hopefully can have them the full season, I'm sure something will come about where their eligibility will probably be in question again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But for now, they are good to go on Friday night, and that could be a big difference maker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can be and I mean, you want as many great players as you can get at all times that's kind of done this thing that I've ever said on the show is like, hey, you want good players on your team.
11:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you do and there's two that are really, really good that they just got back because of, you know, as we played at the on longest writing episode of suits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that has ever been played out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's back, can they got their guys?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's been an injunction or a request for stay and who knows, but like you said this week, they've got them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's gonna be important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the run game is gonna be crucial to try to stop Chip Kelly loves to run the football and if they can get clicking in any way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the more different, different to lined up that you have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've let's do a couple other pods and everything and they've talked about how.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We kind of have been spoiled for the last few years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the guys that Indiana brought in and the portal have played well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The case day guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Burnham from Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've all made plays and they've all done well, but we were been so used to just
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we just think, oh, okay, these guys are going to come and they should have 15 so all have 15 sacks by now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We should tie Rick Tucker should be, uh, you know, wearing them in 99 because he's worn sap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know why we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're messing with the, no, that's not, that's just not how it works.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, these guys have come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've rotated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've all done the roles and done them pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if we're being honest, you know, the unfortunately, a little bit of the basketball message board crowd has started to leak over to the football side of things and if Indiana doesn't win every game 63 to nothing and then it's a failure, be pretty happy with it with what you have right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a 3-0 football team opening conference play that
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[SPEAKER_02]: statistically one of the leaders to make the college football playoff again this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's as much as you may want to complain and say this team's got issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got if they have issues every team and country has issues right now, they just happen to be just happen to be just happen to be better than a lot of those teams.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Grant and Michael be back sometime this weekend with their reaction to the IU North Western game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Not sure exactly what time, so make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, in sixth hit on his radio show on, you know, tonight, I guess on Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When he got here and you see a picture of the stadium and there's less than 10,000 people stop bitching about a 38 to nothing win, you know, that's where you're at.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You could still be there with less than 10,000 people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this game is probably not being played prime time on a Friday night tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If Indiana does it do what it does and just stays where it was,
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[SPEAKER_02]: not big noon game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is your big 10 noon kick-off, big 10 network game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe even on one of the spillover channels who knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is, yeah, this is big 10 network written all over it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like 20 delay to, you know, yeah, it's with and again, horrible broadcasters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just celebrated an anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: None of us like to talk
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[SPEAKER_02]: the Akron game anniversary of the series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, Indiana, Indiana's won the last two against Northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 2019 in Bloomington, they beat in 34 to 3.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, you remember this one, they went up to Evan's then two years ago, sticks first year and beat him 41, 24.
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[SPEAKER_03]: North Blaster gave them a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I wasn't a heck of a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: North Blaster did not go every time you felt like that Indiana team, like, they just felt like, okay, they're gonna outrun their who they're playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And North Blaster never let them out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it was just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: every time in the end, I felt like you had that game close to being put away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Norse Western just went right down in school.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, okay, now it's a 10-point game again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got to keep the ball out and do their current.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just,
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Northwestern, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this program has people talk about and marvel about what Vanderbilt accomplished the last couple of years, but Northwestern's been this team in the big 10 since the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the worst programs in the history college football, probably in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they beat Notre Dame just out of nowhere when Pat Fitzgerald was a player and a season open or a few years ago, a few years ago, close to 40 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And ever since then, yeah, they've had some crappy teams thrown into the mix every now and then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But for a private institution in the conference that they play in, now granted geography helps because they got placed in the West for all those years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they've always been competitive, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Indiana had that really good team in 21, 2020.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sorry, 21 was, we're going to talk about the 21 season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana had that great team in 2020 when they lost the only getting lost in the regular season was Ohio State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wanted to see Indiana and Ohio State again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was Western Gabriel, Ohio State, a heck of a game in the Big Ten title game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a program that's tough to dislike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you've ever met anybody or watched anybody or followed anybody on social media who went to Northwestern, you'll quickly learn to dislike Northwestern, but the program itself is you have to give it a lot of respect because there's a lot of reasons for them not to be competitive, but they're competitive every year, and you got to tip your head to them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree, it's not a game that you want
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[SPEAKER_03]: This early on in the season, don't question since 2000.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I guess Indiana versus the Northwestern since the turn of the century, they've only beaten them four times, but they beat them two times in a row.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, like you probably remember this better than I do, but maybe you felt like
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Northwestern game was one you could get on your way to six when we were still thinking that way, is that right always always you're like, well, you know, they do get Northwestern this year and it didn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: North, Western and Iraqers and they go into the Northwestern game to be like three and four at that point, they're on a four game losing story.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can get this one back and then we got Purdue at the end of the year and the Splatoon games and home this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, no, no, no, we go to Northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'd be down 21 to three and half time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what the hell, man?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're getting ready to open a new stadium.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the last game they're going to play.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had granted it's a road game, but this is the last game they're going to play before they open their new stadium next Friday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They actually play back to back Friday games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They play tomorrow on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're probably listening to this on Friday to be honest with you, but they play tonight on Friday and then they'll play a week from now against Penn State to open up the season or open up their new stadium this season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that new stadium looks sick, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When thinking about North Western is that they're a private institution, they don't lack for donors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, and it's a, and it's obvious.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it would have been a sicko's dream to go to a game there on the lake.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, it looked like an incredible atmosphere just second to none.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never probably going to see anything like it again, but they absolutely knocked that experiment out of the park.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Imagine going there like Thanksgiving weekend though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's why well, when it got cold is when they started playing it regularly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now they don't have to do that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They would play like they're last two or three games in November.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They would play him at Rigley and make that monstrosity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't remember that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They played Michigan there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe last year or the year before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess it's a sequel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was not to me that a bulldozer Rigley failed a year ago, but that's another subject for another podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Last thing before we move on and I want to talk about something else kind of basketball related here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait, before we can go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Daring to freeze like do a Carly Gordon and like stand on the sideline and listen to a headset and take some notes and find out what kind of game plan you have to put in place to actually beat Northwestern at something because the basketball program doesn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: let's like intern to freeze for a game and figure out a break down to how to beat north-western at something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's core prediction for Friday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's going to be lopsided and it seems like a game that Indiana should win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I'm not going to this game with any, and maybe I should be, but I'm not going to this game with any sort of fear of a loss, but I don't like the number being
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go something along the lines of thirty-one thirteen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I will take Indiana to win on Friday night against Northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_03]: forty-one seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you've got the cover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got the Northwestern cover.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was playing on the middle.
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[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I was a 34 16.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I could see all that's being possible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This game does scare me from the standpoint of I'm super sticious and I've got to I've got to break the superstition a little bit this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's what scares me just, but I don't control the outcome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you don't last thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you knew that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't control the outcome of the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just the podcast, you know, still unbeaten since the podcast began undefeated till it's not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, keep it rolling.
22:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Last thing I wanted to hit on here kind of basketball related is now maybe finally we can detach Steve all for his name from the Indiana job when it opens up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to retire after the 2627 season at Nevada.
22:27
[SPEAKER_03]: no one probably really cares at this point, he's been gone for so long, but like literally, my dad has worshiped him since he was a kid and still talks about him and actually I've kind of gotten and like actually got to know him a little bit, he worked his camp for a long time when he was at Manchester and then
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he worked the camp when it was a Franklin at one point.
22:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was it Franklin during the summer because I was a taking summer classes and the offered camp would always come through town.
23:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
23:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We've had a running joke in the family that I've got an aunt and uncle that lived, well, lived, I guess.
23:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you why, in Newcastle and the way they would talk about all
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[SPEAKER_03]: their grandson.
23:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was kind of as the running joke that it was their grandson.
23:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, then my great aunt died and, you know, maybe Steve just can't handle it anymore.
23:29
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I had to hang it up.
23:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
23:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.
23:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I've reached that magic point where you start to see in here things that make you feel old.
23:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that I'm now old enough that Steve
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: makes me just feel like Matthew is a little man.
23:51
[SPEAKER_03]: But by the way, he is now the same age as Bob Knight was when he coached his last game at Indiana.
23:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane to me.
24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane.
24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and Grant, we say, now that we know it, it's never going to happen, were you ever in the camp of Indiana should bring in Steve Allford?
24:17
[SPEAKER_03]: But then after Archie between Archie and Witz and I wasn't, I definitely between Witz and Indivaries, I wasn't absolutely not.
24:27
[SPEAKER_02]: No, at that point, I just feel like the ship had sailed.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that I thought Indiana was going to go the route and I was kind of on board with it for the first time when they hired Archie.
24:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if they wanted to go that route, they would have went that a long time ago.
24:49
[SPEAKER_03]: They would have went with it after my Davis and not went with Kelvin Samson.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: It was never gonna be, it was never gonna be then, because Greenspan was the 80 and Greenspan hated allford.
25:00
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a few there that went back to their mobile days.
25:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't think it was gonna be after Samson because allford was too smart to take the job then.
25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Marine was the only person crazy enough to try that, but I thought after Creen was the time that Indiana could have brought him in and made it, see, and I never thought all for it was a great coach.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was maybe a top 50 coach, I acknowledged basketball, but I thought, you know, what would it, would it matter?
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like if you could put Steve offers name on Indiana basketball, would that regain a little bit of the Luster around the state of Indiana, that the program was clearly losing, because they've done nothing since Tom Green left to restore any of that Luster of anything.
26:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, people have kind of forgotten about it.
26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But to pair all for with the brand, I felt at that time was kind of the right time to do it.
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why they didn't.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: They really thought they got the guy.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: They got the younger guy.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They got the guy that they thought was going to be there for 20 years.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really wish they'd got rid of RG after 20 minutes in hindsight.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: But man, that just seemed like the only time
26:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll never be on the the allford should have been there train, uh, allford was a great coach at Manchester.
26:40
[SPEAKER_03]: He got him to an actual championship game.
26:42
[SPEAKER_03]: They actually were the better team going into that game.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Fun fact.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was the coach at Manchester and they played
26:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Why can't they played what's constant platville in the D3 national championship and the head coach of platville was bow Ryan over on so it was Steve allford versus bow Ryan in the national championship game in 95 and I've talked to guys I've got I know guys who are coaches now who played on that team and was an assistant on that team and they still talk about Steve allford like he is the end all be all and
27:23
[SPEAKER_03]: All he really was is maybe a top 50 coach.
27:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he was in a week coach.
27:28
[SPEAKER_03]: He never got to the final four.
27:30
[SPEAKER_03]: He net, I don't think he ever got past the sweet 16.
27:33
[SPEAKER_03]: He coached Lanzo ball at UCLA, kind of blind squirrel that found a nut.
27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just good enough to be at the level he's been at, like an Nevada or New Mexico.
27:45
[SPEAKER_03]: They hated him at Iowa.
27:46
[SPEAKER_03]: They absolutely hated him at Iowa.
27:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how I felt about him at UCLA,
27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: good for him.
27:53
[SPEAKER_03]: He's had a great career.
27:54
[SPEAKER_03]: They build a house in Trafalgar, Indiana.
27:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine he's probably moving back here.
27:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really go for it.
28:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Not a great Walmart at the new castle by the way.
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy who's going around the state reviewing Chinese buffets.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was in Huntington recently.
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I sent you the video grant.
28:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to do that for every Walmart in the state of Indiana.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to get to your every gym before I can do every Walmart.
28:36
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know.
28:39
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good idea.
28:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
28:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I get the same time, right?
28:42
[SPEAKER_04]: You go to the gym.
28:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say, I mean, that's a gym.
28:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You get many repeat trips places.
28:49
[SPEAKER_04]: You hit the Walmart on your way to the gym.
28:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm telling you right now, I'm still putting Bloomington number one and the worst I've been in is probably Coke Amel.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We will not be sponsored by the Coke Amel Walmart, here it is.
29:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I like the Marion Walmart, it's nice of the people at night.
29:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you got the call to report Greg and I'm upset about one thing Grant.
29:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't get to talk about how Donald Trump asked Miami the national championship.
29:20
[SPEAKER_04]: The starting event at 45, so if you want to, we got 50 more minutes.
29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that real quick.
29:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I chose to wear it.
29:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw where Trump's going to the Texas Tennessee game and Steve Sarketian said whatever Trump moves in the stadium.
29:38
[SPEAKER_03]: They cut communication.
29:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Well Steve Stark, Steve Starkesean said that Mario Chris the ball told him that their communication went out on the final drive of the game, ultimately Carson Beck through the interception that we've seen every day of our life since.
29:57
[SPEAKER_03]: The signal came back on his radio show and said that that's bullshit, right?
30:02
[SPEAKER_03]: That didn't actually happen.
30:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And that it was the Malachi Tony touchdown that kept the game close.
30:12
[SPEAKER_03]: He ended up scoring was when Trump left the game because he left early.
30:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if people don't really hear that.
30:17
[SPEAKER_03]: He left early and the communication went out, Malachi, Tony scored the touchdown and then it came back on right on the kickoff.
30:25
[SPEAKER_03]: So if anything, it almost costs Indiana to ask some championship.
30:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I think that stuff really matters?
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not, but I think that stuff is kind of funny because you don't really know that stuff.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the cool behind the scenes things that you get to hear about.
30:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It is interesting because, to hear SIG talk about, yeah, I happened to like six minutes left and it was the drive that the defense gave up a quick touchdown.
30:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It was after the Mendoza dive, I think it was the ensuing drive, but there is video that I watched right before we went on tonight and it's during that last drive, right?
31:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They have to call a timeout to avoid a delay, or they may have taken it a delay.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even remember, but Crystal Ball has his head set off.
31:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He's pointing at the head set.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: He's screaming at the referee, and almost like we can't get the play in.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I don't know, like, I really truly don't know.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: There's situations where teams lose communication all the time.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, one side doesn't have it.
31:30
[SPEAKER_02]: The other side can't have it, so as long as it doesn't work both ways.
31:35
[SPEAKER_02]: you really can't say much about it.
31:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what hands signals are for.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But Donald Trump can't really leave at the same time as everybody else either.
31:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, talking about security risk, you're, you know, a sitting president just trying to file out with about 80,000 other people.
31:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, I think it's a non-story, I think it's, sort of kind of being a liney, whiny little, you know what, that he tends to be, but uh, it was interesting to hear come out, and it's just more can and fodder for these people that say, you know, because don't we're getting
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: what the game plan was because of Mark Cuban's AI ventures.
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They knew what Oregon was going to run because they were listening to the head of the set.
32:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So at some point soon, we're going to have like a top 20 video of conspiracies, conspiracies as to why Indiana won that in 2001, that national title last year because there's just been no explanation that ends with them actually being the best team.
32:47
[SPEAKER_02]: The goal post will always get moved for that.
32:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: It honestly just kind of has become stenonymous with Indiana now.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you familiar with the social media guy Eddie Links?
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I don't sound familiar, but I don't know if it's top my head.
33:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of these guys that just Indiana can't win in his eyes, like there's a reason that they didn't actually win the title last year.
33:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I actually block all those guys so I can't see them fit.
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know his newest one that came out this week was,
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: No Indian players are starting in the NFL this year.
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just further proof that Signetti can only win because everybody's 26 years old.
33:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, like, the very first common is the starting left tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs literally played it in the end of last year and was a backup in some spots.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's just funny to read.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: going into week four of the season after and people still can't rationalize that it happened.
34:01
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll never make sense for people except maybe us.
34:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't make sense to me still.
34:11
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, by the way, Mike, you got a route for, I'm giving you a hypothetical.
34:17
[SPEAKER_03]: You got a route
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad I didn't say the first word that came to mind because Greg would have to edit it out of the podcast.
34:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But this will be the one week where I won't root against Purdue.
34:40
[SPEAKER_02]: That's as close as I can say.
34:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't root for Purdue, but I won't root against them.
34:44
[SPEAKER_02]: How's that?
34:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I literally hope that if it all possible both teams lost the game.
34:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I understand, like, that's the dream scenario.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Although, not likely.
35:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it just, it doesn't happen grand.
35:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They get rid of the tie years ago.
35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: They may have got rid of the tie before you were born at this point, but it's the one instance where if Purdue won, it would almost be worth it because of how funny it would be.
35:22
[SPEAKER_02]: to see Notre Dame Blues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I love Susie.