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ITB: Can Hurts, Eagles Build Off Some Of Their New Pass Game Concepts Vs. Chargers? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: game again. And Adam, there's a lot at stake. Eagles
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  Speaker 1: are on a three game losing streaks for a long
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  Speaker 1: time since we've said that. But I just want to
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  Speaker 1: all of them. You need to get to this last one.
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  Speaker 1: It was really fascinating of the offensive version. And Adam,
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  Speaker 1: I imagine, you know, to take what Greg said and
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  Speaker 1: bring it into this discussion. I've had a tough time
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  Speaker 1: reconciling the fact that the Eagles, as Greg pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: as we showed visually for those who watched on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: they actually added some real NFL, high level NFL pass concepts,
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  Speaker 1: and they even admitted it and talked about it this
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  Speaker 1: week so far in press conferences. Jalen Hurts acknowledged it
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  Speaker 1: to an extent. They brought that, and there were some
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  Speaker 1: really good throws that Jalen Hurts executed off that. But
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, not only did they've
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  Speaker 1: turned the ball over four times, five times twice on
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  Speaker 1: one play, which is a little bit flucish, but it
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  Speaker 1: didn't really solve say, their first their third down issue.
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  Speaker 1: They were awful on third down and they really didn't
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  Speaker 1: open it up for a great running game. It was
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  Speaker 1: a trick play run game that big run. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like I think you and I both had
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  Speaker 1: the same thought, like if you do, you have to
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  Speaker 1: you have to give this more more time. These are
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  Speaker 1: good things for the offense, but it's also they have
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  Speaker 1: to prove and Jalen Hurts has to prove that he
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  Speaker 1: can use these weapons make those throws again, but then
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  Speaker 1: also limit the turnovers and then hit a few more
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  Speaker 1: open players.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's interesting because people are like, oh, they
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  Speaker 2: you know, they did this, they did that. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there were some new concepts, but understand people, they've had
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  Speaker 2: plenty of calls that were really good that Hurts didn't
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  Speaker 2: execute that. That's the thing that people are missing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, you saw them hit slants.
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  Speaker 2: You saw the Hurts throwing beside the numbers. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: those throws have been there all season, the tape, we
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  Speaker 2: punted this out and people yelling at us, the Hurts
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  Speaker 2: truthers or get mad at us. Now it's funny. Now
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  Speaker 2: they're coming out in our side with Greg and they're
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  Speaker 2: actually complimenting them. Okay, I say with you, man, he's
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  Speaker 2: got to hit these throws.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, And then good on Greg right to
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  Speaker 1: point out that he felt that Jalen Hurts played a
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  Speaker 1: better game than people are giving him credit. This is
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  Speaker 1: the guy who everybody says, oh, you you're old school
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  Speaker 1: at the position. You don't like jail Hurt And then
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  Speaker 1: on the worst day ever from the fans like, I
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  Speaker 1: actually think he made a lot of high level throws.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But so the point was that the Eagles are
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  Speaker 1: trying harder, They're they're clearly for the first time making
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  Speaker 1: an attempt to open the pass offense to put in
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  Speaker 1: that are you see other NFL teams run and you
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  Speaker 1: can't call it a colossal failure just because they lost
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  Speaker 1: the game. Uh, just because they turned the ball over
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  Speaker 1: four times. Not all those turnovers came on plays were
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  Speaker 1: those new compliments?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? And they weren't on him, all on him and
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  Speaker 2: they Hurts. That's another thing that people just just jumping
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  Speaker 2: real quick. Yeah, this is what I said. I think
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  Speaker 2: people are pointing out because they like that I said this.
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  Speaker 2: Some people the the the and this is not an
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  Speaker 2: for years. We love sports radio. But sometimes when you're
• 5:45
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  Speaker 2: in angry because you see what's in social media. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: they're killing Hurts, so we have to kill Hurts, right,
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  Speaker 2: we gotta scream and yeah he stinks, he's bad. We
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  Speaker 2: don't do that here. We we focus on teaching. The
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to listen to us. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to learn to be smart, keep going. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Good job, Bobby, so that, but so again. To bring
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  Speaker 1: it back to this week, they're gonna play a Raiders
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  Speaker 1: team that is not good at all. I will say
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  Speaker 1: I've watched the Raiders a couple of times this year.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about them, for as bad
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  Speaker 1: as their aster is and I think this is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a testament to Pete Carroll, and I
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  Speaker 1: really like their defensive coordinator Patrick Graham.
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  Speaker 2: He's good is good.
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  Speaker 1: And if you look at some of their games against
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  Speaker 1: really good opponents, they have been in those games. They
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  Speaker 1: just don't have enough. They've lost to the Broncos twice
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  Speaker 1: by seven points and three points. Okay, the Broncos are
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  Speaker 1: arguably the best team in the AFC. They lost to
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers thirty one to fourteen, but that game was
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  Speaker 1: actually fourteen to seven at the halftime. They lost to
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars by one, so they have played sometimes. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: of course they have a couple of blowouts because they're
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  Speaker 1: not good. They lost the Bears by one, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And by the way, they're one of
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  Speaker 1: only two teams this year to somehow beat the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: That was Week one, which is my favorite express a
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  Speaker 1: Week one of the con job. So my point is
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  Speaker 1: we can all look at this Raiders game and say,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, you know least leagals get a gift. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they they're probably gonna win the game. I'm gonna predict
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  Speaker 1: them to win the game. But this Raiders team is
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  Speaker 1: probably not gonna come here and just be like here,
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  Speaker 1: you guys go. You know, Max Crossby plays like like
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  Speaker 1: it every day is his last day in the game
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  Speaker 1: of football, like you know what I'm saying. And the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line hasn't exactly blocked really great times this year,
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  Speaker 1: so this is a it's a game like the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: can't just walk off the bus and expect that they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna win. They've got to fix their problems. And as
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  Speaker 1: Jalen hurts, Adam, I don't know if you heard what
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  Speaker 1: he said on Wednesday, he definitely talked about being more
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  Speaker 1: detail oriented. And I know this is all coach and
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  Speaker 1: players speak because my lot has been saying this all
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  Speaker 1: year long. More focus, more detail. But this is not
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  Speaker 1: the time to like, you know, Lax, you've added something,
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  Speaker 1: work on it, let it matriculate, and test it out
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  Speaker 1: again against the Raiders and see if you can continue
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  Speaker 1: to grow this thing.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I'll say about Hurts, which which it's just
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  Speaker 2: been time tested. When he's decisive, that belief comes out
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  Speaker 2: of his hand and go wow, that that anticipation pass.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I remember I've watched the DeVante Smith pass like seven eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in my off yeah. I so behind me,
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  Speaker 2: I have a you know, I have a recording studio tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I can't be over there, but so you know,
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  Speaker 2: my recording students don't have a TV. So behind me
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  Speaker 2: is my TV, right, mm hmm. I watched that play
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  Speaker 2: because I've forison fives. I could replay it. I stopped.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was taping the game, so I I
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  Speaker 2: might have missed two minutes. I was mesmerized by that
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  Speaker 2: throw by Hurts. I was like, that's anticipation, that's Brady,
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  Speaker 2: that's Manning, and that's brave. Okay, and staff Stafford is
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  Speaker 2: not at their level anticipation, but he's pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if if if Jalen had looked the other way
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  Speaker 1: and made that pass, then it would have been Stafford.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, yeah, yeah when he does that and then
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  Speaker 2: I look past. But I was just like, and people
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  Speaker 2: always ask, why can't he do this a coach? Their
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  Speaker 2: coaches can't answer this. They don't know. But here's the
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  Speaker 2: thing we didn't mention with Greg. It shows a mental growth.
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  Speaker 2: It shows he trusts the system. This is what Steve
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  Speaker 2: Young talked about. Steve Hung was a wild child with
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay when he got there in the mid eighties,
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  Speaker 2: before he got to Bill Walsh. Ste he said he
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  Speaker 2: never really trusted the Bill Walsh system until maybe year
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  Speaker 2: three or year four. Once he did, that's when he
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  Speaker 2: had the famous video when he put the blindfold on
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  Speaker 2: and he hit Jerry Rice over the middle, he said,
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  Speaker 2: because I knew the West Coast system so well. Well,
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  Speaker 2: not that we're comparing him to Steve Young, but hurts.
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  Speaker 2: It shows that he's probably trusting a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: That shit matters. Excuse my language. He's talking to coaches
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  Speaker 2: you and I have done for decades. Now. You know
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  Speaker 2: when they start trusting it because they do things they
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  Speaker 2: weren't doing very well earlier. We saw in the Minnesota
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  Speaker 2: game that passed a J. Brown this past to Smith
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  Speaker 2: was like, Wow, that'shigh level quarterback play. We can't guarantee
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  Speaker 2: you'll ever do it again, but you have to feel
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  Speaker 2: like he's starting to trust the system in base on
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  Speaker 2: what you just said. But he said Wednesday, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you want to hear. Doesn't mean he won't
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  Speaker 2: throw three picks next week. Probably won't happen. Yeah, and
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: we'll break down the game with Greg. I mean, I
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: know they're personal pretty well and Greg Olsen, Greg Olson,
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator is super aggressive, like he's not I'm
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: I know he had a fire Chip Kelly because he
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: was terrible Greg greg Olsen not the Greg Olson on
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  Speaker 2: on Fox. But Only is a old time I want
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  Speaker 2: to throw the ball. He'd been flipper for the flipper
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  Speaker 2: very close. Only is super aggressive throwing it now. It
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  Speaker 2: may rain. The weather is supposed to be mid thirties dreary.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope it doesn't rain.
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  Speaker 1: Ye.
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  Speaker 2: I know we'll get more to this with Greg on
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  Speaker 2: Friday or Saturday, whenever we do the pregame show. With
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  Speaker 2: the personal battle offense, it'srocious, mostly trocious, but he can
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  Speaker 2: make it look better because he is his thing is
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  Speaker 2: throwing it and we'll see what happened. I just want
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  Speaker 2: to put that out there because we're you just talked
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  Speaker 2: about how they could be competitive. Okay, you know I
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  Speaker 2: want to play off that they they and we'll see
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  Speaker 2: if we'll get to the Raiders injury port. They have
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  Speaker 2: a couple interesting players on offense that just haven't gotten
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  Speaker 2: the job, and Genty everybody knows about. But they have
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  Speaker 2: some interesting receivers. But you know, Colton Miller, and we'll
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: get to their entry. But he's been out since week five.
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  Speaker 2: He may be playing this week, so we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to their injury report.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. My biggest to just wrap it up, My biggest
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  Speaker 1: concern would be for Jalen that because of the four turnovers,
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  Speaker 1: that he goes back to not wanting to trust those throws.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, don't be risk averse, right, because it's been on
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  Speaker 2: my mind.
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  Speaker 1: It was beautiful when he trusted it, you know, and.
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  Speaker 2: None of us can say whether he'll do it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. He's never trusted the system. Part of it's
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  Speaker 2: and I heard Mike Gil ask you this question or
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  Speaker 2: bring it up. Part of Jalen's problems. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: I know, for facts I ask people, is having so
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  Speaker 2: many different play callers. He's never had anyone for two
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  Speaker 2: full seasons. Remember Stiching didn't have two full seasons season
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  Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, that matters like that, And sometimes
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: you're ever thinking, you know, that's something we've heard from
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  Speaker 2: you know about other quarterbacks before. Sometimes they overthink. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but I could tell you
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  Speaker 2: who that they're not very good at corner of the raiders.
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  Speaker 2: They have size, they definitely have size, but there are
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  Speaker 2: gonna be opportunities there. And then on your point, as
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  Speaker 2: we move on here, does he take advantage of it?
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  Speaker 1: imagine as angry as the Eagle fan is right now
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: already at their own team, imagine how bad it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: I would have loved it. I would have yeah, oh oh,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: he would have got booed that. They would have booed
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: him like crazy. Yeah that is that's that would have
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: been wild. Man. We one of these days we'll have
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: to have a chip our Chip Kelly stories. Yeah, he's
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a he's a he's a different guy. I always got
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: along with him, but man, he's so hard to figure out.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: And I'll leave it at that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, A unique fellow for sure.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: The other transaction obviously the Eagles. If you're seeing they
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: waved Cam Ademitas the long Snapper. I like the jokes
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: people are putting on social media. That's true accountability, you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: for Jake Elliott's missie. But what it really was is
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: because Charlie Hewlett was in the ready to get into
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: the practice window, so you imagine everything we should be
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: ready pathetic with him and yeah or else what would
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: they have He was a full practically right in Wednesday practice.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't work any just like you know, they
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: did not work out any well. I know they got
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: home at seventh They landed like seven thirty or something
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: on Monday morning, so they didn't work anyone then, But
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: they didn't work at anyone out on Wednesday, So that that
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: would tell you that it's probable that Charlie Hewlett will
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: be available for this game. And by the way, Hewlett's
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: injury I abdomen that it's not a lot that this happened.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: But usually when they say abdomen, it's I don't want
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to say sports herny because doctor Myrs will be mad. Yes,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: core muscle searchery, Yes it could have been, but because
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: that's because it's been really two months. That's typically six
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: eight weeks is what it takes. Although I know doctor
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Myers has got people back if they really needed to
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: athletes the spec sooner if it was like if he
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: had to, But so Hewlett was designated for return. He's
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: trending well Miles Hinton will not play this season. He
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: was not activated in time this practice period expired. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: hate this rule. You might have heard me if if
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you listened to my injury update last week for the
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Charger game. It's just dumb, like, okay, you're not letting
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: him back. He was not activated. Okay, but why can't
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: he practice? He said, he's a rookie, Well, why can't
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you let him practice it? What's wrong with that? You
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: penalize him? Stupid?
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I would suspect Adam it's because they That is their counteractive,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the NFL's way of counteracting the practice, the stash, the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: phantom injury stash.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: But but but yeah, but you can't. He can't play
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: or practice, So what's the difference.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Well, but if he was, if he could practice, then
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you could get something there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: You know you're saying, why can't he practice? If they
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: allowed him to?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, if if if they Eagles let
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to expire, right, so the Eagles knew, h yeah, he's
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: on i R. He's done. He was designated for return.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: He had They had twenty one days to make a decision.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: They felt he wasn't ready for whatever reason, he wasn't ready,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: but so what so, so the rule is stupid. Okay,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I'm good with he can't play, Okay, twenty one day window.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: They didn't think he could play. He's not allowed to play,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: but you you won't let him practice? Why set the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: player back? He's a rookie. It's not fair to the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: player because by the way, last week he didn't play,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: but he practiced, so he so he he wasn't allowed
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to practice day because he was the uh period expired.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: It's just dumb. It it's a setback to the player.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: It's why pause.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: He's on ir though right that he can't practice.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: No, But here's my point though, yes he is, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: they designated him for return. Why not let him? Why
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: not say, okay, you're not allowed to play because you
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: weren't activated within twenty one days, but why not let
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: him practice?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I get that, but I feel like then
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: then you can especially the Eagles, because they always do
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: these kind of things like you're open the door to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: be able to circumvent Like if he could practice, then
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you could see the Eagles stockpiling a lot of guys
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: saying they're injured, having their window expire, then having him
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: out there practice knowing that they can't.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I get that, but just so you know, just so
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you know, the league checks up on this stuff. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: remember talking to a club about this a couple of
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: years ago. It goes, no, you he can't stash. No,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's what happened is is you either have to take
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: The league gets the practice, they get all the practice footage. Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they know if you're doing that shit. And and by
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the way, the league does show up pretty utterly to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: make sure you're not doing something worth the entry. But
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: it's another little secret, right that the league doesn't talk about,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: which is absolutely hundred percent true because I've I've talked
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: to them about it. I just think it's unfortunate because
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it kids like this need they need work, you know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: But I know you're saying, like, if he's real close,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: why not just activate him, just have him inactive because
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: right because remember he's he would have to take up
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a rush. But if you activate him to the fit
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: fifty three, then yes, I just feel bad for the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: kid that he won't. But just to move on from this, yeah,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I just feel bad for him because if he's like
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: ninety ready up sorry, twenty one day when windows up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Although you can't play the season. We're also not gonna
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: let you practice. That's the thing. I just think it's wrong.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that, I hear what you're saying. It's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: funny because egos are gonna wind up having basically an
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: entire offensive line full of guys on the team but
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: who are not gonna play, from Willie Lampion at center
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to another one Drew Kendall. You got two tackles hitting
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Cameron Williams right, who are never gonna play this year.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's some other guy I'm not thinking of,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: but they could literally have him a whole offensive line
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: worth of guys who don't play this year.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. All right, let's get to the main injuries.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, Wednesday's practice report, just for everybody knows,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: it's an estimation, but it is an estimation of if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: they had a practice because of what they did was
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: a walkthrough. So if they were to have practiced on Wednesday,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter and Lane Johnson would not have been participants.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: They were listed as did not participate. I think it's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: pretty base on what we've heard and talked about. Very
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: unlikely about Jillen Carter playing this weekend and Lane Johnson,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: we'll see, right, I mean, not being able to be
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: out there on the first day the walkthrough or makes
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: gives me a little pause, but I guess we got
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to see as the week goes on.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't give you any indication whether it be
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: ready or not. But based on what Aaron Borgman told us,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: a former assistant trainer for the Eagles and Chiefs, you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: gotta hear this. We're gonna put the for Patreon, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: we're gonna give you that he did. We went over
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of players. We're gonna put the link. If
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you're not a Patreon member, we're gonna put the Lane
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Johnson one out for free. You gotta hear this thing.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I've known about this century since du Saley had it,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you know, back in two thousand. But man, the details
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: that he had stuff I was never heard before, like I.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Was, including the history of the name.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, well I knew that, but the stirrups and because
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Mike Momola brought it up, because that ended Mike's career,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: and Mike told it, Andrew was was Andrew. Maybe it's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: just me and my I can't remember. Andrews knows me
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: knows me and Maurice and Mike doing the for WBCB,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and I asked him, I said, didn't you have a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: list Frankie goes yet? And in my career, I'm like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: oh my, oh man. And he explained it because you
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: have to remember, Mike mcmolla was an explosive edge rusher.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: He wasn't obviously a great player, but he was very seerful.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: People thought he was a bust. He wasn't a bust.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It's just no. Yeah, he had a bad injury and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: back then, uh, before we move on, that's they weren't
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: quite up. The league wasn't quite and medical science wasn't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: quite up on that for athletes the list franc injury right. Anyway,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I just want to mention you. You got to hear
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: this couple. Hopefully you get out by Friday. It is
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: phenomenal what Aaron did. Oh no, wait, we already have
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it out there, right, Yeah, you know, it's it's up
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: people listen, folks go And but one more little nugget
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: for you. Look at the shirt he's wearing, and we'll
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: we'll and Aaron gives you the story. It's crazy, yes, funny.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's yeah. If you watch the YouTube version, you'll
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: see shirt. I did cut the story out though of
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the shirt for the mainstream because that's oh okay, Pereon content.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: That's I got it. I got it, but it's really
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the shirt.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: We'll get the flashback.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: But I got it. When he said what it was,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I got I got it. What game it was? Yeah,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: although you know, it's funny with Merrion Merril and I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: hosted BCB on Tuesday. I thought the Randal punt was
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: against Buffalo. He said it was against the Giants. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: didn't look it up. I was hosting the show, so
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't have time to look it up. But folks
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: will remember that I think that Buffalo game in the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: early nineties was the Fred Barnett game. If I'm not
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: going to look it up here, but I just remember
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: watching it because that game was a Buffalo and we're
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: talking about but Randall had a ninety one yard punt,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: which is insane.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all read all right, Yeah, Yeah, that's right.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: So uh back to the injury report. Something that I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: view is not great is that Landon Dickerson was listed
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: as limited with the calf injury. And it's not to me, Adam,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's not great because he's just been banged up all
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: year and the calf is new, that happened in the game. Yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you can add that to back and knee and now
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: calf and limited. And you know, even if you you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: even if it trends toward playing.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I would be shocked if you don't play.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I tend to think you're right, but you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you know he's not one hundred percent. And now that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: another thing that he's dealing with. This is separate. This
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: is not the back, it's not the knee.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It's it's correct. And can I just say people are wondering, well,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: what's happening to Eagles offensive line? Look at their health.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Now we don't know what's going on with my line.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We're looking into it. He's not been on the injury report,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: but he's had a disappointing year. We we know about
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Stein's very average. We've talked about that, and he's playing
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: out a position it's not working great. Jurgons has been
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: medical okay, injury surgeries, not himself. Dickerson has not been himself,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and Lane Johnson's hurt. So do the math folks. This
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: is their shelf what they want for physically because of injury,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and then they got a new guy's not been great.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yep, that is true, so we'll say. And by the way,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: someone asked me, I think it was maybe Mike guilt
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: during our Football at four segment. It was a great question.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an answer to it. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't even know if a doctor could have a great
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: opinion on it. But has the the years and years
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: of tush pushes and the visions taking its toll on
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the offensive line, and you know, I can't say yes,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and I can't say no. I know Jason Kelsey argued
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that it's one of the safest plays in the NFL.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I kind of think that Jason's gonna argue that regardless
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: because he is going to articulate why. And it's true,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: nobody's suffered an injury on the play. But what we
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: can't say is the wear and tear involved of that
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: play and executing it and practicing it. Maybe it's a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: fair question. I just don't know, but I know he
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: hasn't beat up.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you have the extension of the winning
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl into February. They're beat up post season, surgeries,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: not having a normal off season. It's subjective, but there's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: really no way to know why they've broken down like this,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: rather than we told you folks when Dragons was drafted,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: there was a concern from scouting circles about his injury
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: history the lower body at at Nebraska and then Dickerson.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: We knew it was a medical. He would have been
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a mid mid to late first round pick if not
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: for four different knee surgeries. I mean that you just
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: we're not going to talk draft now, but they're going
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: to have to address this in the draft, like they
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: have to have better dapt them and that's just they
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: need guys who can play and play at a higher level.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're healthy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Agree on the good news front, Zach Bonn and Charlie
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Hugh that we just talked about him were listed as
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: full participants. So we will see as the week goes on.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And of course we always cover the final injury report
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: on the inside the Birds post pregame show with us
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: too and Greg co Sell. So those are Eagles injuries.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So Adam Colton Miller, what what's for the Raiders because
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: he's a really good left Yeah, he's a study. He
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't get a whole lot of pub because the Raiders
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: usually stink and they're all out. But he's a good player.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'll give I'll give John Green credit because I got
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to tell you Colton Millerer Colton Miller, by the way
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: represented by former Niners and Raiders guard Jeremy Newberry. How
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: about that one? Oh?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so so basically, Miller is a tall,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: angular left tackle, was seen as not He was seen
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: didn't have great footwork, not functionally strong enough out of U. C.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: L A. And he turned out to be just a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: fantastic player the league. A lot of teams missed on him.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: You're right about that, dude.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I remember he buddy of mine, who's unbelievably sharp. He
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: said it was the worst evaluation he's ever done in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: his career. He said, I missed so bad. He goes,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I pride myself will never get anything wrong. He was
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: one of the five bad ones I've had in my career.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: He just didn't see it any You know when guys
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: miss they always go back with you. What did I miss? Yes,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: he said he went back and missed on that one.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: But I'll give trivia question without looking who's his.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Backup, Colton Miller's backup backup.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You said you won't get it Alan Barb So it's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: not Barber Barbara Barbara Stone for safe Yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Stillan foreside.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: He played for Stone fourth ice.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: No, he played for the Chargers, didn't he?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: No, No, he's this is a different guy Stone for
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Scythe was drafted by the Seahawks in twenty one. He
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: played for Pete Carroll. He is a He is a
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: huge duty six to seven. And it's funny because Pete
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: likes everything. He runs his running backs with size, his
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: lineman with size corners. But look Dylan Parham who played
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: for a guy Ryan Silverfield at at at Memphis and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Ryan now is at Arkansas.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeahs to him.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I know, good for he got Yeah, good for him,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: he got out of there. But their line is not great.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Jackson powers Johnson is on i R. He won't be
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: available for this game there. They're offensive lines in Africa.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: They're not going to done a good job over the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: years of developing it. But getting Colt Miller back potentially
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: would be great. Uh Gino Smith is as of now,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: is not expected to play with right hand and right
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: shoulder injuries. That's why Kenny Pickett came in, and they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: expecting him to start there. They're they're basically working on
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the assumption right now that Smith won't be available. Pickett's
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: going to get the ones. A kid I really like
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: is Dante Thornton. He's a rookie receiver who had a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: great training camp. He's got length, he's explosive, little bit raw,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: but he could run. He had a concussion he missed
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: last week. He's out of Tennessee. This kid could play,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: but he just needs to be developed. My man Trey Tucker,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: who who's explosive, played it. You see he starts with
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett. Pete Carroll can't quit his Seahawks. He just can't.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I know they're they're jack bets a little bit on
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the field, but yeah, I mean the besh was.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: But it's pronounced best, so so you know, yes, Yes,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: he was severely overdrafted. He should have been. Uh. If
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: he turns out to be one of the best slot
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: receiver in the NFL, hey I'll say I was wrong.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: He's a little bigger than he's a little bit bigger
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: than your normal slot. We'll see where he wells greg
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: where he's lining up mostly, but he should have been
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a fourth or fifth round pick based on the people
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I spoke with. It's there was some shock when he
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: went in the second round. I was like, wow, yeah,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: kind of situation. Yes, at a TCU, but you know
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: what they're They're just they don't have a lot left.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett won't make it. He'll be on the almost
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Lest he was a really good player,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: really good player.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And the Eagles can't lose this game. Man, they can't.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I said that, I'm sure when we did our
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: pregame show hang On two years ago Cardinal game, I'm like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: they're not losing that game. I'm sure. I picked the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Eagles and I'm shruck.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: This Eagles defense is so much better that even though,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like you know, maybe they maybe the offense is so
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: bad that he was win ten nothing, but they cannot lose.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, they just can't lose.
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  Speaker 2: I would dude. The Raiders have so little to The
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Titans actually have more talent than the Raiders. That's how
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: bad the Raiders are. They just play hard, they they genty.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny. Greg got absolutely and massacred when he said
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: he saw Hampton was a better player than Genty. He did,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: so I know it's early. I get it. Chip Kelly
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: was a disasters to play caller, but Genty is the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: only running back I've ever seen in place to contact.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It doesn't this is the NFL. It doesn't work.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. I mean I do think. I think
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: there are really good days ahead for him. I kind
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: of believe.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: He catch the ball a little bit though, so it's
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not like he's uh completely you know, reliant on just
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: smashing into guys and but you're right, when you play
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: with that kind of contact balance lever, you gotta make
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: guys miss too. Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Watch watch Hampton just came off ank surgeon. I know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: overall one great, but watch Hampton cod which means that's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: as scouting term change of direction because for his size,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it's phenomenal. It really once he wants. It's one of
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the rare times when teams give out, gave out what
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: they were going to do for the draft. They were
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: so hot on Genty. I think that's the way he
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: pronounces it. I assume it is, but we'll we'll figure out.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Remember Shaw Genty, the linebacker from the Bengals at one point,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: yes he was. But anyway, it's just it's tough to win.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: You don't have enough talent. It's just really hard. And
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I'd be shocked. I'd like you, I'd be shocked. There's
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: no way we're picking the You're not picking the I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: know you're the contraller and you're not picking the Raiders.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I will not be picking the Raiders to it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: We're actually going to fire you. By the way, I'm not.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It's funny because I said when we did our post
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: game show, I came this close to changing my pick
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: right before I had a gut feeling Gals would win.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: When it came back, I'm like, here we go. See,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. Why did I change it? Then I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: turned out to be with three of us were right.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Not only that, not only that, but both
• 33:11
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't never have the angry YouTube comments we
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: were getting, Oh yeah, yeah, well no, it's funny because
• 33:25
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• 33:34
  Speaker 1: picks you.
• 33:35
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• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a pick. Plus it also doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: like me, I kind of like to look for where
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I think the upset might be. It's not that I
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• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But ANALYSIS will say, I.
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  Speaker 2: Just felt like I get a gut feeling about hurt.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he rises to the moment when you least expect it.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I just felt and I know over all the you
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: can't excuse the turnovers he did there, there was some.
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  Speaker 2: We'll move on. There's not much left in the show.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: But I just wonder can he build on this? Yes?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Is he capable of it? Yes? Why he can't why
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: he doesn't do it? I don't know. But that's it's
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  Speaker 2: like that who is Bigfoot? You can't figure these things out.
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  Speaker 2: I love that line. I saw a line from the
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• 37:23
  Speaker 2: don't know he has it in him. That's what I'm
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: gonna tell you. You could call him a middle arrow
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: quarterback all you want. That's fine. I'm not gonna argue
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: with you. But to say he's not capable, it's complete nonsense.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: We pointed this out repeatedly this season. Look at that throw, Okay,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that one sucked. Look at this throw. Yeah, okay, so
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: he can do it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Let me let me let's end this on it with
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a really interesting stat that I saw from on because
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about a little bit. Do you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: know Tony holsman Escuerino from NFL. Uh, he's an NFL researcher.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I'm fun a lot those guys not. I may, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Go ahead.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: His Twitter handle or ex handle is at NFL Underscore
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: researcher and his dad is. Only two NFL players have
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: fifty or more carries this year that have gone for
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: zero and negative yards or negative yards zero or negative yards.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: This season, only two players have fifty or more carries.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Do you want to guess which two players those are?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Genty? Yep, because he's got a bad year, so I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: not surprised genty and the guy he's playing against.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, take one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: See this is and and the reason why I know
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: because they're so bad. But I know, you can't run
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: every off tackle. Last week outside zone they did great.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Inside forget they can't. They literally if the defense back
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: their lineman off ten yards, they still would get a
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: yard on it or zero. They just can't run inside
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: because these guys physically can't do it.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: They can't, but I don't know what you makes makes
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: for a whole lot of passing in store on Sunday
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: with it. Now, both these teams, well, the Eagles still
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: try to run some AFC T people I know about
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the Raiders and they're like, even for Pete, they don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: run the way you think that they would run. So
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll get back to that they if they have luck,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: we'll say good luck. Yeah, all right, that is gonna
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: do it for this episode of Inside the Birds of
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