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Bama Bob recaps college football, Scott Dochterman talks Hawkeyes & Mr. Monday Night presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I'm Millie Condon, Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network, hour
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number two, bottom in the hour. Scott Dr. Man covers college
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football for The Athletic. He was at Kinnock Stadium on
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Saturday afternoon, so we'll get his thoughts on that College
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Football Playoff as well as we March on here.
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He'll join us about 1:30. Mr. Monday Night makes an
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appearance about 10 minutes or so before 2:00.
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Right now. Let's get Bama Bob in here as we
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recap the weekend in college football. 48 hours from now.
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We'll be previewing what's coming up in college football in
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a short week. How are you, Bama?
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Doing great was a good weekend too, isn't?
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It really is. Last week wasn't bad.
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There were certainly some highlights in in all the
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conferences. But yeah, this this one coming
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up here special to say the absolute very least.
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Well, Trent, let's start in the Big 12.
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Of course, we've talked about Iowa State as they looked as
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well as as good as they've looked in in a long, long time.
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Nice win from them. How about the rest of the
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conference, Trent? Anything.
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Stick with you. You know, we mentioned that BYU
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just don't like watching them that much.
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I I guess there's something about them.
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I don't think they're one of the best 10 teams in the country.
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But that aside, I want to shout out Arizona State.
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Yeah, that was close game for a while.
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It was you lose Levitt, he's likely going to enter the
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portal. There's rumors tumult happening
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there and they're an upset away from playing with all the
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injuries that they've had in the conference.
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So what do? They, I think they need a BYU
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loss. It's an upset.
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I'd have to look for sure. But they need an upset.
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Regardless, though, with this team banged up, I didn't believe
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in them in year #2 I thought there was going to be a step
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back. And with all these injuries, to
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be this close to another appearance at Arizona State.
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We've seen this program for all our lives.
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Yeah, once a decade they have a special year, and then they fall
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right back to being Arizona State.
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And how about Jeff Sims, who we thought stunk and had and both
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of them stops prior to? Kenny Dillingham, who's a
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football coach. Yeah, no question about that.
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But what if he's Arizona? He's going to be getting some
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calls too. I think so.
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Too, He coached a lot in the SEC and you need to find people for
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these jobs. Yep, Arizona's had a nice turn
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around in their season as well. Colorado stinks.
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Utah, Kansas State. What a shootout. 100 points
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where 98 scored in that football game.
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Bama, the Big 12. Yeah.
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Again, this is what we thought it would be.
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And, and although there is a little separation, I think
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there's more separation than we thought because you going into
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this last week, you've got two teams that if they win, they're
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in, right. So Texas Tech, I don't see them
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losing in West Virginia. I don't see BYU losing to
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Central Florida, who I think has to make it.
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I mean, they got to make a trip from Orlando to Provo right over
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Thanksgiving weekend. How motivated are they going to
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be? So I, I think the big question
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is if, if, if we get that championship game of Texas Tech
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and BYU and if BYU, if BYU loses, are they going to be left
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out as a two loss team? And you know, we can debate that
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probably later, but I just think it's, it's is it fair?
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No, but listen, I mean, the committee has an SEC problem
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that we'll get to in a minute. But I think if BYU wins, I think
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then Texas Tech is going to get in at large, I think, which I
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don't. And not that they've got any
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great wins more than BYU does, but you know, they just look
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better. I guess they passed the eye
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test. They've been higher ranked all
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year and everything else. So I don't I don't know that one
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is the best scenario was fair. I don't think anybody wants to
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see Utah in that Big 12 championship game.
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And I agree with you on Arizona State.
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They were my pick to win the conference.
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I don't think it's going to happen.
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And you're right on Dillingham. There are some SEC teams that
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have him on their radar. It looks like Auburn might be
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kind of honing in on on some of all the coach at Tulane.
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But Dillingham is on their radar.
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Would he leave for Auburn? You know, it would be a shame if
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he did. I think he likes it out there.
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I think he is, you know, he's, he's trying his best.
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It's just can you sustain it? Can you sustain success out
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there? But you also may have a bit of
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an easier path to a playoff at Arizona State than you would if
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you get into the meat grinder at a place like Auburn or Florida
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or wherever else. But overall, not a bad weekend
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for the conference. And it really looks like we're
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we're going to get BYU and Texas Tech in that championship game.
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And that's going to be, there's going to be some bids on the
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line in that game, some playoff bids, not only for the Big 12,
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but for probably the SEC as well.
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To the Big 10, Trent, your thoughts?
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Big 10, Well, I'm already looking forward to this weekend
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and everything that's on the line.
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But with a look back upon it, we talked about Nebraska.
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Just a complete no show. That is an embarrassment.
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Speaking of embarrassments, Bielema taking his group up
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there. There's still a lot to play for
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and you get bludgeoned by Wisconsin.
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Did the Badgers, we were scoffing at it.
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We were making fun of Wisconsin football.
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Did they make the right choice? Right to do so at the time.
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But did they make the right choice?
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Look, you're not going to be able to go out.
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You're not going to be able to outspend LSU and Penn State.
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You're going to be at best, what, eighth in line to get your
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coach? Let's invest.
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Let's spend on the players. And.
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Let's see what happens. And this team has responded
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since Bickel's coming back, they have responded.
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I think we were wrong maybe on that.
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Front. Perhaps.
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Perhaps. Yep.
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And they'll finish Minnesota, right?
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Yeah. From the X game.
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What weekend? Oh, man, What about Oregon?
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USC, Bama, Let's start with your Oregon USC game.
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Obviously, it was huge for USC. It was big for Oregon.
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Yeah, Oregon. Did they send the message
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they're not going to play for the Big 10 championship in all
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likelihood. I mean, I don't see Purdue
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upsetting Indiana. I just don't.
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What about Michigan beating Ohio State?
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I'm not going there. You know who would play in the
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Big 10 Championship if that happens?
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What would it be? It'd be Indiana, Oregon.
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Sign for that game, kind of be kind of be kind of fun.
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I don't think it's going to happen, but Bammy, your thoughts
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on the Big 10 this past week? Yeah, I think Oregon, I think
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they solidified their spot no matter what.
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Now I say that and let's say we do get, you know, the upset that
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we talk, you know, Michigan, Michigan wins, right?
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And they get into and that puts Oregon, I guess into the Big 10
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championship game. You know, they lose, let's say
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they lose to Washington and they lose that game.
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Now for a sudden, you know, there are three lost team,
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right? I think they're in no matter
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what. I think they're fine.
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I think they're just fine not being not making the Big 10
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champion. I really I really do.
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I think it's I think they're Georgia.
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Georgia doesn't want that game. Ole Miss doesn't want that game.
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OK, they're they're all fine where they're at.
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I think they're all in, but it's going to cost them, you know,
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potential home game and I that's a that's a big issue.
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I listened to me a story is as much as Oregon is continues to
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be USC, they've really had their own they kind of had their
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destiny in their hands. I think they win that game.
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I I think I think they would have been in because I think
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they beat USUCLA and that gets them to 10 and two.
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And once again, it's not the disaster it has been, but once
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again, Lincoln Riley can't win a game.
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He absolutely has to win and to, you know, to to get into a
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playoff and and you know, are they happy with that?
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Maybe they seem to be. I don't hear his name on any,
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you know, any hot list, you know, around the SEC or anywhere
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else. And then of course, you, you
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know, you know, I don't know that he's on a hot seat at USC.
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But listen, you mentioned Illinois and Nebraska, the 2
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probably the most disappointing teams in the country this week.
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I mean, Illinois, I'm not sold on Wisconsin still, I understand
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they've been better since they announced that Pickles coming
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back. But you know, let's see it next
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year, right? Let's just see, let's see them
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take a a bit of a leap next year versus this year.
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Nebraska, I don't know what that was.
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I mean that that it was bad. I don't it was bad is what it
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was. You know, Indiana, Mitch Perino
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for all the crap that I think, you know, that the SEC is taking
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for wedding weekend and I get it.
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And you know, they're throwing shade at, you know, what is the
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Chattanooga State I think is or whatnot.
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Yeah, but I think was Indiana on the bye week, am I right?
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Yeah. So what's the difference?
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Right. I mean, seriously, what's the
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difference? You play a nobody or you take a
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bye week. Anyway, we'll get into that
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later. Just makes my blood boil.
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Michigan's the key to this guy's Michigan beats Ohio State.
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I think they're in the playoffs and then that's going to put
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probably 4 Big 10 teams if they don't, I think the Big 10s down
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to 3. And that's going to open the
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door for a bunch of other, you know, again, the SEC problem
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that this committee has right now.
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And who's the 4th? I mean, they're just not a four
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team unless Michigan pulls an upset.
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Yeah, you're not just putting it.
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You're not putting a four team in there just because they
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should have a fourth that no, it's team's resume and it's not
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going to be there and it's going to be SEC heavy and the country
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will be annoyed by it. But BMI, you guys are used to
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that. Well.
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I. I think it, I think it.
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Yeah, Right. Exactly.
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I think in Michigan beats Ohio State.
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I think the big thing gets 4th. I think they're going to have
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India. But if they don't, they're
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getting 3. And you can't put a, you cannot
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put a fourth one in. No, I don't think no matter
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what. So, you know, it is what it is.
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Yeah. We're, you know, we're used to
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the hate down here, so we'll just get more of it.
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So it deservedly so sometimes, I'll say that.
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Mentioned earlier, the Minnesota Northwestern game was fun, if
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for nothing else that the ending of it and the fact that
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Northwestern punched their ticket to bowl eligibility at
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6:00 and 6:00. There's a Wrigley Field was part
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of the venue that got my attention.
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All right, let's get to the SEC, Trent.
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Before we finish up in the ACC, we'll throw Notre Dame into the
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mix in that one. Your thoughts on the SEC this
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past weekend, Trent? There wasn't a lot to watch,
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let's be honest. And we talked a little bit
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earlier about Oklahoma. That defense is just so elite.
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Yeah. And if Metir can continue to get
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better, maybe there's a team that not going to win a national
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championship. Did he run the ball more this
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weekend than he had? A little, a little bit, yeah.
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What do you have in the game? 18 carries, more than I even
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thought, not only for 60 yards and sacks are included in there.
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But yeah, he's running a little bit more like that Oklahoma
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defense, though, more than anything.
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My biggest take away, though, is just the quit.
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I mean, Kentucky, what an embarrassment.
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LSU 1310 against the Hilltoppers.
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Just yuck. Who does LSU have this week?
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Oklahoma and Norman. Oh boy, yeah.
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That's a team. Now what?
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Kentucky is they did come in eight and two.
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So I mean, they're not like one of these, you know, Eastern
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Illinois teams, that's true. But.
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They also lost 25, six to Florida International.
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I understand. I'm not, I'm not excusing it.
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I'm saying LSU kind of a win they maybe had to have not, not
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that anybody's on those jobs are on the line or anything because
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they're going to come in and clean house anyway.
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But yeah, that was that was shocking.
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I kept kind of waiting for them to pull away and never did.
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Missouri, Oklahoma close game to him and to Texas, Arkansas, that
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was that was kind of eye opening.
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That's a really good rivalry obviously with the Jerry Jones
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factor in there and Art's threw for just under 400 yards.
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Is he figuring it out, boys? He's.
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Getting there a. Little bit, I guess.
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I mean, you would hope so by now, right?
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I mean, where do we 11 games in? I know they've had a tough
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schedule, but I mean, it's not like he's devoid of weapons.
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And I still go back to, I'll say this, he's improved since
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Gainesville, right? He made some bad decisions in
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that game. And I think that game is going
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to cost him a playoff that I don't think it matters what they
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do this week against Texas A&M. This is I think is a pride game
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only. I don't think they're in no
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matter what happens. And This is why I think the
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committee has an SEC problem. You look back at last week.
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I mean, you know, Alabama, you know the concern there.
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And I watched, you know, more of that game than I should have,
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right? The game was never competitive,
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but Ty Simpson threw two more interceptions.
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Eastern Illinois. Yeah, this last two weeks have
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not been good for his Heisman candidacy.
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I. Don't Well, right.
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And what it's really not good for is the Iron Bowl this week
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because that that's a night. Game too.
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Let me stop you. Isn't it?
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It is. How many times has that game
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been played at night? Or not a lot, but.
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It is. It's in which usually it has
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been 2:30 right in those CBS days because either 11 or the
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other or both of them. And that was the prime time CBS
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game, you know, mainly Alabama, but you know, a few times Auburn
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where there was a lot on the line.
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And that was so it wasn't now it ends in the dark, right, because
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of the, you know, it ends at six, you know, 6630 at night.
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But there's very few prime time kickoffs.
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And I'm going to tell you this game is in play, buddy.
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I mean, there is just no question.
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And we'll get to it Wednesday. This game is in play, and
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Simpson and Alabama really need to clean up the rack.
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But the reason I think they've got an SEC problem is Alabama,
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if they win out, they're in and there's nothing anybody can do
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about it. And they're not going to
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eliminate anybody by winning, right?
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I think Tennessee Vandy this week, man, I think the committee
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would like Tennessee to just win and take Vanderbilt out of the
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equation because otherwise a 10 and 2 Vanderbilt with losses to
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Alabama and Texas, that's a playoff team, right?
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And you've already got George, you've already got Georgia A&M
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and Ole Miss are solidly in. You've got Oklahoma sitting
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there with two losses and Alabama can play their way in.
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And there's nothing anybody can do.
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So it's I mean, it, we're getting ready for it down here.
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You're going to get, I think you're going to get 5.
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You could get 6 SEC teams. But you know, this past weekend
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there's just, you know, Vandy again keeps winning and and I
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mean, probably, I think I don't know if he's going to win the
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Heisman. No, I don't think he will.
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But he's going to be in New York and man, just get ready for that
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show because you saw it, I mean, when you saw it as Senior Day
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with his whole family going there, 1819 people.
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And by the way, can Brian Kelly be more of a turd for not
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showing up for his son on Senior Day for LSU?
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He didn't show up for that. No, he didn't.
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His son walked out by himself, unesported on senior night.
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Brian Kelly couldn't be bothered to show up.
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And maybe he was trying to save, you know, any booze or whatever
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from LSU. Thing I bet that's what it was,
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showed up. Yeah, I mean, I don't Brian
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Kelly's an ass, but who? Cares though, I mean but.
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It's about your son. It's about your son at that
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moment and he you're right, it would have been booze that would
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have been rained down as your son's being announced.
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That's also tough. But your son is wearing a free
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Brian Kelly T-shirt, you know, OK, that he's showing up.
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So, I mean, what is he going to care, right?
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I mean, you know, again, the guy's got $49 million.
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He's not hurting. But I just think you could have
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shown up. And I understand that there
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would have been some some booze, but I think there would have
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been a few, maybe enough class, which is hard to say to a place
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like LSU. They're not really known for it,
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you know, I think, I think maybe they could have shown a little
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more class. But yeah, he didn't, he didn't
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show up for whatever reason. I'm sure it was because of the
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reaction that that his son would have received.
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And but again, just hard to be a fan of that guy.
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ACC Trent, Georgia Tech fell behind 28 zip, got back into the
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football game. Then they exchanged every time
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it looked like maybe they're going to be able to pull this
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one out. Pitt had an answer.
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How about the fake punt from Marduzzi and he calls himself a
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dumb ass in the post game press conference that looked like they
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were going to blow it. But you know what?
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He was right about the game last week.
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Didn't matter. It didn't matter.
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Absolutely, he was right. It's all in front of them.
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It's all in front of them. Also for my Duke Blue Devils,
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the dream is still alive so. What do they have to do?
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They got to win. Yep, we need favorites to win
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outside of one upset and SMU makes their way out to Cal and
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Sega. PAL telly and company.
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And Wilcox just got fired. The coach just got fired.
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If we get a dead coach bounce, Cal pulls the shocker.
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Here are your ACC standings. Virginia is your lone 7 to one
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team and then we have a five way tie at six and two with Pitt,
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SMU, Georgia Tech, Miami, Duke. Based on the tiebreaker opponent
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win percentage in conference, the Nuke Blue Devils will be a
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win away from playing in the College Football Playoff at 8:00
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and 5:00. Assuming that they outranked the
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group of Five, the yes, and what would the committee do in that?
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Case and the ACC out. At least the ACC champion out.
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The champion can put fascinating.
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Can they stop putting Miami in the bracket tomorrow in that
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Snoopin TV show? Well, I'll TuneIn and watch
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Trent. I'll be watching Fuse.
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Zama, the ACC was what for you? Disappointing from Georgia Tech.
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The start you mentioned they kind of fought their way back
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into it, but you don't see a Brent T team just dominated like
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that. And I mean, when it was 28,
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nothing. I mean, there was no resistance.
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First of all, thank you for texting me because I didn't
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realize. Yeah, I mean, it was just
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nothing, right? And and I'm watching this.
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And then, of course, you know, you flip back and you know that
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they're again, they just couldn't get a stop when they
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needed. I don't know if they're looking
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to head to Georgia, but regardless, I mean that was that
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it probably cost them a game. It cost them a path, I think to
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the to the ACC championship game.
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You know, you mentioned Duke. I mean, again, this conference
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doesn't deserve a playoff team. I think we can all agree on
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that. I think they're going to get one
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no matter who went, even if it's Duke, What are you going to do?
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You're going to, you're going to put the American Conference.
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They would, but yeah. But I mean, that's the group of
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five. So.
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So you're going to get a two group of five teams then?
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No, just one. I think the highest ranked group
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of five team will be the ranked high.
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Will be one of the four, one of the four will be one of the
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four. Top.
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Yeah. Well, there you go.
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OK, You know, I hope that happens.
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I really do too. And I haven't.
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It sounds like we're not that far out of the realm of
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possibility. Now, Duke would obviously, I
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think have to win sure, in the ACC championship game for that
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to happen. But anybody can beat anybody in
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this, this crappy conference. You know, maybe we can, you
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know, not talk about him next year if we can get Trent off the
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bandwagon. Well, he'll be he'll be leading
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this, leading the parade, so. Oh yeah, that's true.
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That is true. Man Band next year.
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Notre Dame did Batman. Were they sending a message?
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Is that why they just kept scoring?
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I mean, they're beating Syracuse does nothing for them unless you
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beat them by, in this case, 63. I mean, I don't know if that'll
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get the committee's attention. I, I don't think it's ways it
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shouldn't. I'll put it that way.
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It shouldn't sway anybody. Notre Dame's going to be in and
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we can all argue it. Listen, whether you beat, you
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know, beat them 35 to nothing, 42 to 370 to 7, whatever it was,
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it just it doesn't matter. Syracuse is terrible and you
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know, Notre Dame's going to finish ten and two and they're
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going to have the two losses to to, you know, A&L moves a
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potential SEC champion and of course, Miami close loss there.
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Who they beat. Their best win right now is
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Navy. I mean, I think if you really
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look at it, I mean, USI mean US USC, I guess, but based on
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record, it's Navy. He's got 3 losses.
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So, but you really stack that up and who they beat.
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But you can say the same thing about Ohio State really.
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I mean, and so we all know Ohio State's going to be, you know,
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probably going to buy no matter what happens, assuming they beat
19:29
Michigan. But again, were they sending a
19:33
message? Maybe, but anybody on the
19:36
committee that goes, wow, look at what they did 70 to 7.
19:39
I mean, if if you're looking at that, then I think you, you're
19:43
just you don't belong on the committee And you we could I
19:45
tell you what we're there's a lot of people down here arguing
19:48
that there's some people that don't belong on that committee,
19:50
like the guy that came out and was, you know, all of a sudden
19:53
criticizing Alabama's run game as a reason for knocking them
19:57
down to 10. I'm like, really, that's what
19:59
we're looking at now. Their inability to run the ball.
20:01
Forget the fact they're winning. It's how they're winning all of
20:04
a sudden. So, but you know, that's.
20:06
For another day, they control their own destiny and can shut
20:08
everybody up. Talk to you on Wednesday,
20:10
brother. Yeah, take care guys.
20:12
Thanks a lot. Good to talk to you, Bama.
20:13
Bob, Trent and I take him spin around college football.
20:15
Real quick on this. JJ McCarthy isn't in concussion
20:19
protocol. Oh, really?
20:20
You imagine, Trent? So what are we doing here?
20:24
Suffered symptoms on the way on the flight home last night.
20:27
What did you you found an unbelievable stack.
20:31
This is amazing. This is amazing.
20:34
This is from Anthony Amico on Twitter.
20:37
JJ McCarthy now ranks 850, first out of 852 in EPA per drop back.
20:43
Estimated pass per attempt per drop back since the year 2000.
20:47
The only player below JJ McCarthy is Jamarcus Russell.
20:52
852 quarterbacks all. But don't compare him to
20:56
Christian Ponder. Don't bring up some of the draft
20:59
bus. That's what Viking fans continue
21:01
to think. You're cooked.
21:03
He stinks. He's bad.
21:04
Friend, he cannot go through his progressions.
21:07
He has absolutely no touch. He's cooked.
21:11
Max Brosmer, come on down. It's got to be right.
21:14
It's got to be. Oh, and Speaking of that, so
21:17
last year about this time, I was steadfast that if Darnold, if
21:21
you're going to move on from him, you don't want to pay it,
21:23
that you keep Daniel Jones. And obviously in hindsight, they
21:26
should have done it. You know, the quarterback that
21:28
they need to get this offseason. That the Vikings need to get the
21:31
Vikings. Need to go out and get a veteran
21:33
if you're not going to draft somebody.
21:34
What? What?
21:35
What? What conference?
21:36
The American Football Conference.
21:37
All right, so let me get in front 'cause I'm going to narrow
21:39
this down and I'm going to surprise you, 'cause I'm going
21:41
to pull this out of my, you know what?
21:43
Hang on a second. Now, he's not in the east.
21:46
Nope, he's not in the north. No, he's, I'm going to come back
21:57
to that one. All right.
22:01
I'm, I'm stumped. He's in the South.
22:03
He is in the South. That's the only place.
22:05
Who is it? It's Davis Mills.
22:08
Yeah, Davis Mills look good. He's he's been OK.
22:10
He's been OK, even, you know, he's held, he's held the ship,
22:12
he's held the Fort rather. Go back to when he got thrust in
22:15
there against your Broncos. You remember that.
22:16
I do. And and the inexplicable
22:18
decision by them to throw the ball backed up at their own 10
22:20
yard line. That game's going overtime and
22:22
we could be having even a more different they're three and O
22:25
since he's become the starter and very well should be 4 and O,
22:28
but I think they should have won that game again, the Broncos the
22:29
last they didn't. So as a starter 3 and O Davis
22:32
Mills, 27 years old, he's been solid when he's had to come into
22:36
the past. There's the guy, there's the guy
22:38
to go. They.
22:38
Drafted him to be the guy, didn't.
22:40
They did, and then he got Stroud, what, two years later?
22:43
Two years. Later, 2 years later I think,
22:45
and they get Stroud back. You know how I feel about this
22:48
Houston team, Trent. I'm really high on this group.
22:50
That defense is great. That defense is really good and
22:52
the receivers are OK and the running back's OK CJ Stroud, I.
22:57
CJ. Stroud the rookie.
22:59
Yeah. He was OK, he won rookie of the
23:02
year and now sophomore, you're stuck.
23:05
I like what he marks. Don't like that offensive line
23:09
you? Know defensive, that defensive
23:11
as good as there's in the league.
23:13
I'll take a time out Scott Docman next.
23:15
Miller and Condon, glad you're with us on the Iowa Sports Radio
23:17
Network. Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome
23:19
back. Just passed 1:30 on a Monday.
23:22
Off the bench, top of the hour. Lucas and Sean take you in till
23:26
5 O clock. Mr. Monday night's going to make
23:27
an appearance coming up here in 15 minutes right now.
23:30
Scott Dockerman joins us from The Athletic.
23:33
He was in the press box at Kennick Stadium on Saturday.
23:36
We'll get into that College Football Playoff speculation
23:39
with the unveiling of the latest rankings coming out tomorrow.
23:42
And Doc's got Iowa in Florida and Iowa State in.
23:47
They played the day before. Where do you have Iowa State
23:49
doc? It's against Missouri.
23:51
Nowhere is that game. Texas The Texas full in Houston.
23:56
That's that's how you see it as a pursuing along those bowl
23:59
lines. Just real quick on this, if does
24:02
Iowa, Nebraska matter as far as winners gets Florida loser gets
24:08
Las Vegas. Is is that scenario in play do
24:12
you think Doc? Yeah, I think so.
24:14
And it's it's especially the case after Wisconsin beat
24:19
Illinois over the weekend against Illinois.
24:21
So Illinois would would have had an edge probably in Vegas more
24:27
than it would have in, you know, in, in Tampa when it came to
24:32
that. Because then, you know, you can
24:34
jump an 8, an 8 and four can jump a nine and three, but a
24:38
seven and five can't. So that would be different.
24:41
But now that they can only be 8:00 and 4:00 at the most, if
24:44
they beat Northwestern, then you know, I, I think that it means
24:49
that the winner goes to worst, we'll go, the winner will go to
24:54
Outback and the loser will probably end up in Vegas.
24:57
A win is a win. I would get to win 2017, but fun
25:00
fourth quarter, big comeback even down, you know, 1710 you're
25:05
like, well, this at best is going to overtime and they get
25:07
to win the regulation. So a lot of there, but there
25:10
were three quarters before that and outside of Canton region, a
25:12
whole lot of negativity. What do you think?
25:15
I mean, you could hear the Bluebirds, they were out in full
25:19
in full force passing game couldn't get going again against
25:22
a defense that had not been very good against the pass this year.
25:25
Would have a loss meant anything if they would have found a way
25:28
to put that one in the L column, Would it would it change the
25:31
perception the offseason anything or hey, good to get the
25:35
win. But in the grand scheme of
25:36
things, that really it doesn't mean much, positive or negative.
25:41
I don't know. I mean, I think winning is
25:42
better than losing in this In this case, it's was helpful.
25:47
I mean, you know, throughout the course of the year, there's
25:49
always games that every good team has to face their worst
25:55
day. And it's how you get through
25:58
them that matters in the long run.
25:59
I mean, you could say that about, say, Indiana playing Penn
26:02
State. That was a game that they had to
26:05
get through Iowa had to get through Penn State.
26:06
So I, I think the other day they didn't play very well, certainly
26:10
on offense. And I don't think Mark Gramsci
26:11
had his best day at all in the 1st 3/4.
26:14
But they got through it and I think that's what matters.
26:17
You know, we could, you could dwell on the what ifs and the,
26:20
and the hyperbole of the situation.
26:23
It wouldn't have been helpful. I mean, I'm sure people would
26:26
have complained about it, you know, all offseason and they
26:28
probably still will anyway. But overall, I don't think it's,
26:32
you know, the fact that they won matters.
26:34
I think this is the week, though, that matters for
26:36
perception more than anything else.
26:38
I mean, lingering into the offseason, lingering into the
26:40
bowls, if you lose to Nebraska, I think it's it's the
26:43
difference. This, the outcome this week is
26:47
what determines for Iowa the difference between a Goodyear
26:50
and an average year. I mean, if you're, if you win,
26:54
you go to Nebraska, you win your eight and four with four close
26:58
losses to good teams, it's one that you'll feel like you're
27:02
right there. But if you go seven and five and
27:05
Nebraska is one of those losses, it doesn't have the same impact.
27:08
It means that you were just five and five against power
27:12
conference, the competition, and that really doesn't matter in
27:14
the grand scheme of things. Was this Carson Shire's best
27:17
game as a Hawkeye, do you think? Yeah, he's finally starting to
27:21
his athletic ability, has finally figured out how to play
27:24
with the position that he's in. He's missed a lot of, you know,
27:26
tackles in the past. He's overrung, you know, and a
27:29
lot of that's just experience. But he was all over the place
27:32
and he played really well and we're finally starting to see
27:35
why. The coaches were very high on
27:37
him athletically for a long time.
27:39
And he's fits the description quite well.
27:41
So I, I think I can see him playing himself into maybe a
27:45
draft selection the way he's playing and, and his upside is
27:48
clearly, you know, moving up. And you know, there's, there's a
27:51
couple of Iowa linebackers who are in the NFL right now as
27:55
mainly special teams guys, Nick Neiman and Christian Welch just
27:58
the same name too. And he's right up there athletic
28:01
wise. And I think he's got a chance to
28:03
to make a roster based on 4 special teams and potentially
28:06
playing linebacker. We go into the final week,
28:09
rapper week of regular season and you're hearing it a ton in
28:12
the SEC Don't really want to get to that conference championship
28:15
game. Is that's something that is
28:17
going to become more and more the case if we continue with
28:20
this 12 team structure that getting there, taking an L
28:24
though it didn't hurt teams a year ago that maybe this is
28:27
something that is going to go the way the Dodo Birds and
28:29
conference championships and then eventually we will get to
28:32
that 2020 fourteen playoff because championship games go
28:36
away. How do you look at it going
28:37
forward and hearing, especially down in the Seca lot of rhetoric
28:40
and we don't actually want to play in that game.
28:42
Yeah, the SEC is different when it comes to the championship
28:45
game because it is so embedded into the structure and into the
28:49
culture of that league. I mean, it was the first one to
28:53
do it and it and it's done it so successfully.
28:55
And whereas the Big 10, it's kind of hit and miss this year
28:58
will be off the charts. But in other years it's just
29:00
been, you know, I'm just kind of a man, you know, last year it
29:04
wasn't packed. It was a great game and two good
29:06
teams. But you know, I, I think
29:09
eventually though, there, there has been discussion and there
29:13
continues to be a lot of excitement among some athletic
29:16
directors that why just stop at 16?
29:19
Why not go to 24 like that one AA or the FCS playoffs?
29:23
And because that's something you can really sell and, and, and
29:26
continue and I have to fire a coach early.
29:28
You can, you can still have a chance if you're LSU or, you
29:31
know, even Penn State. So I think that's probably the
29:34
path we'll get down to now. I, I think there's a way that
29:37
that could kind of marry it all. And I don't know if.
29:40
The the the. Leagues are apartment for it,
29:42
but I always liked the Big 10's proposal in 2020, what they
29:46
called Champions Week. I always, I always wondered if
29:49
that last week of the regular season, instead of having it
29:52
being kind of de facto rivalry week, you make it a match up
29:55
week. And you know, the Big 10 wants
29:58
to do the, the, the six teams, you know, play three games, you
30:02
know, where you get the automatic bids.
30:05
But if you can't get that, then maybe the next, next thing is
30:08
let's let's match up the 18 teams across the board with
30:12
teams of your comparable records.
30:15
Like let's say Iowa plays Michigan this week instead of,
30:18
you know, they played that Nebraska last week, things like
30:21
that. I think that may be one way to
30:23
solve it where you're not playing an extra game but you're
30:26
still getting those high impact games.
30:28
I'll get to a Saturday with you. I want to get to the game.
30:33
Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan's found a way to win this football
30:36
game. The last four times it's been
30:37
played, Ohio State's been I think #2 or #3 and, and all of
30:41
those games ranked going into it.
30:43
Ohio State obviously number one this year.
30:46
You can argue the schedule with the exception of the Texas game
30:48
that they haven't really been tested.
30:51
What do I, I get that it's a rivalry, but man, Doc and I'm,
30:54
I'm sure we've said this before, I don't see how Michigan stays
30:57
with Ohio State this week. How do you see this game?
31:01
I think Ohio State blows them out not close.
31:05
Michigan's a nice team. They're they're a lot like Iowa
31:09
is and has been, you know, pretty good defense can run the
31:12
ball. I I think Iowa is a little bit
31:14
better. I think Iowa is a little more
31:15
physical than they are up front on offense anyway.
31:19
So I think that would be a good game.
31:20
But but this one, I mean, the only reason why they they won
31:23
last year is because Iowa, Ohio State had a bad offensive
31:26
coordinator and and Chip Kelly, I mean, he could have and, and
31:30
now he's a free agent and, and, and he's, you know, you know,
31:34
that wasn't exactly the nicest guy to his players, let's put it
31:37
that way. I don't see any tears, you know,
31:40
from either Columbus or Las Vegas for him exiting.
31:43
But he had a horrible game plan. I mean, run the ball in the up
31:48
the middle against Michigan, who had the 2 best defense tackles
31:51
in the country, not use they Michigan was without the best,
31:55
one of the best corners in the country and you still didn't
31:58
attack him with those receivers Mecca Buca and Jeremiah Smith
32:02
and Carnell Tate. And, and so, you know, and then
32:05
the pressure really got to him. I, I just don't think that's the
32:08
case this year. They're going to Ann Arbor.
32:10
I think they're going to be explosive.
32:12
I think they're going to be accurate.
32:13
And, and I, I would be really surprised if it's within 3
32:16
touchdowns. I'm.
32:17
With you. You have your bracket up, your
32:20
projected bracket up at the athletic dock, and I've been
32:23
joking about this for a month now.
32:25
There's still a possibility for Duke to win the ACC.
32:28
Now they need a big upset. They need Cal to knock off SMU,
32:30
but it's out there in Berkeley and late night game.
32:33
You just never know. That could come to fruition.
32:36
If Duke does do that, gets there, then beats Virginia, The
32:39
ACC championship game are we talking about, then the American
32:42
Athletic Conference champion and James Madison in front of Duke
32:46
and the ACC is completely shut out?
32:49
Very much so it very much could happen and and I wouldn't
32:52
completely rule out San Diego State either.
32:54
They don't have one lot in the Mountain West, but I think James
32:58
Madison, I mean, I think we all kind of think of them a little
33:00
bit higher than we do South San Diego State.
33:03
But of course, I you know, this is not written in stone that
33:06
that it should be the power for that get that automatic.
33:09
It's it's 5 best conferences. We've always assumed it is, but
33:13
if if Duke somehow and then wins the the league title, I I don't
33:19
think that it deserves at all to be in there.
33:22
I mean, you know, people were kind of chiding Tony Petiti when
33:25
he was talking about his proposal that Iowa would have
33:27
been the sixth team in in the big 10 little mini tournament
33:32
last year. And if Iowa would have won, it
33:34
wouldn't have deserved it would have been eight and four.
33:36
It wasn't that bad. But but Duke, I mean, getting
33:38
beat what, 45 to 16 or 19 by Illinois earlier in the year?
33:43
I just don't see them being in that case.
33:46
And frankly, outside of Miami, that league doesn't really have
33:49
a true playoff team. I mean, they've all lost
33:52
decisively in the last few weeks.
33:55
I I just, I think that, you know, I mean, what you really
33:58
want and it probably not going to happen, is Miami just somehow
34:01
squeeze its way. Yeah, because it is the best
34:04
team. But even then, they've lost two
34:05
games to SMU and Louisville. Louisville's lost four straight
34:09
or whatever. So yeah, so I just don't.
34:12
If Duke gets there, yeah, I think James Madison can
34:15
certainly pass him up. Anyway, Notre Dame falls out of
34:18
it and when them hanging 70 on Syracuse, was that meant to send
34:22
a message? And if so Doc, at this point of
34:24
the game, does it matter how many?
34:25
Because they're not going to move up by beating Syracuse, But
34:28
if they beat him by 63, does that help?
34:30
And is Notre Dame in? I think Notre Dame is in with a
34:34
win and they play what Stanford this yeah, yeah.
34:38
And if they beat Stanford, you know, Stanford of course knocked
34:41
off they won the other day against Cal And I I think that
34:47
if Notre Dame can can win this game and they're most likely in
34:50
and and that's and that's totally, you know, cool.
34:52
They, they, they've been playing like this.
34:54
And, and the big discussion is like the Miami Notre Dame one
34:58
is, you know, should a teams, how, how much does the team's
35:02
losses matter versus how much does the wins matter?
35:05
And I think it's a fair discussion because should Miami
35:09
always be ranked ahead of Notre Dame because it beat it?
35:12
Well, you know, Notre Dame lost two games by combined 4 points
35:16
to two really good teams, whereas as we said, you know,
35:18
Miami's lost 2 bad ones. And I, I think Notre Dame is one
35:22
of the 10 best teams in the country and deserves to be in
35:24
the, in the rankings, but it's, it's scheduled.
35:27
This does not quite add up to being higher than, say, maybe
35:32
getting a home. Scott Dockerman from The
35:35
Athletic. Doc, as always, thanks for what
35:37
you do for us. Happy Thanksgiving to you and
35:39
yours. Where are you going this week,
35:40
Doc? You staying home to cover it
35:42
all? You're going to be in Lincoln,
35:43
You're going to be in Ann Arbor. What are you doing?
35:45
I'm going to be in Minneapolis. I'm going to cover the, I'm
35:49
going to cover Minnesota and Wisconsin.
35:53
So that'll be pretty interesting.
35:55
So I've never seen the Axe game in person so.
35:57
Why not? Good stuff.
35:58
Thank you, Doc. We'll read your piece and if
36:01
your schedule allows, we'll talk to you next Monday.
36:02
Have a great Thanksgiving, Scott.
36:04
Thank you. Alright.
36:05
Thank you. Appreciate you.
36:06
And say hi to Phil for me. Phil Fleck.
36:08
Phil Fleck. Yeah, my best wife, buddy.
36:10
See you, Doc. Hey, bye bye.
36:12
Good stuff. Scott Dockerman there kind of
36:15
went off the off the board a little bit for that.
36:17
One he loves Phil Fleck. I like the game.
36:20
Yes, I, I I I love the. The trophy Second best, second
36:27
best. That high?
36:28
In college football. Number one, Pig Floyd of
36:32
Rosedale. Yeah, I like the axe.
36:35
You like the axe? It's a good one.
36:36
It's a good one, yeah. I'd have to get a list.
36:38
All right, while you do that, we'll go to break Mr. Monday
36:42
night. He's going to join us next with
36:46
the Niners and the Panthers. You're listening to the Iowa
36:48
Sports Radio Network. Hi, Miller Congan, welcome back.
36:51
Iowa Sports Radio Network. Mr. Monday night's music playing
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Iowa State. St.
36:57
John's coming up at 3:30. Iowa State, a 2 1/2 point
37:00
favorite. Their opponent tomorrow,
37:01
Creighton, is down 11 with a minute and a half left in the
37:06
first half against Baylor. But that aside, it's time for
37:09
football. Mr. Monday night.
37:11
Take it away the. Niners, I guess.
37:13
I don't know, I this is the worst month I've ever had
37:16
gambling. So it is.
37:18
I mean, it's not even close, you know, I'm just, yeah, I suck.
37:23
Well, at least you're able to look in the mirror and take you
37:26
all. And how'd you do in our picks?
37:28
Awful. Awful everything.
37:31
It's about all bad. Basketball.
37:33
No, sucks. Football Brutal.
37:36
Yeah, I'm terrible. Is there anything else you can
37:39
try to get out of? It No, absolutely not.
37:41
I'll keep gambling. Well, yeah, this is my this is
37:45
my hobby, right? It's a hobby that is costing me
37:48
money, like a lot of hobbies do, but it's just one week after
37:52
another. Awful, awful, awful, awful.
37:54
It's a historic run. One week after.
37:57
Another yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter do.
37:59
You have a will you bet this game tonight.
38:02
Either way, of course, yeah, might as well waste play it.
38:04
Yeah, sure, why not? I mean, playing these ugly dogs
38:07
hasn't worked. Yeah.
38:09
What I've done for, I don't know the better part of 25 years.
38:12
It's not like anything changed this year.
38:14
It's not the way that I look at things.
38:16
The way that I bet on things has changed.
38:18
I'm just awful and every single break that can go wrong has gone
38:22
wrong. And yet there's other parts too
38:24
where I'm not even close. I'm losing by 3040 points.
38:27
What was your worst pick of the week?
38:29
I mean, there's too many. Two dozen of them and pick them
38:32
maybe. I would Guess I can go through
38:33
here. Let's see, last week.
38:38
Oh, here's one for you last night.
38:39
Laid on me. That Davidson plus ten against
38:42
Utah State, they got beat by 34. Well, there was no sweat
38:48
involved. There's there's that just
38:50
another red dot. That'll do it for us off the
38:54
bench. Coming up next, Miller and
38:55
Condon, we're here Monday through Friday.
38:57
Well, this week, Monday through Wednesday, noon to two, talking
39:00
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