Latest / DISGRACELAND / Sublime: Hoodlums, Police Helicopters, and Getting Dirty at Denny’s
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis. The stories about
- 0:14Speaker 1: Sublime are insane. At their first show, they incited a
- 0:19Speaker 1: riot so massive that forty cops and a police helicopter
- 0:23Speaker 1: were needed to break it up. They've vanalyzed their record
- 0:26Speaker 1: label's headquarters and managed to land the sixth album deal regardless.
- 0:31Speaker 1: They once did unspeakable deeds to a Denny's kitchen using
- 0:35Speaker 1: their mobile home septic tank. Their lead singer, Bradley Knowell,
- 0:39Speaker 1: racked up a rehab tab of nearly half a million
- 0:42Speaker 1: dollars thanks to his gripping heroin habit. Sublime's musical legacy
- 0:49Speaker 1: is inseparable from their reputation as hoodlums and heatonists, in
- 0:53Speaker 1: part because those are precisely the people's Sublime wrote songs about.
- 0:58Speaker 1: With their new fangled sky ah punk, they preached the
- 1:01Speaker 1: gospel of Long Beach's CD shores. Unlike any band before them,
- 1:07Speaker 1: Sublime was born in California, raised in California, and before
- 1:12Speaker 1: they could get much farther, Sublime died in California. Two
- 1:17Speaker 1: but before their untimely end, Sublime made great music. That
- 1:23Speaker 1: loop I played for you at the top of the
- 1:24Speaker 1: show that wasn't great music. That was a preset loop
- 1:29Speaker 1: from my melotron called Panni Raid Parade MK.
- 1:33Speaker 2: One.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I played you that loop because I can't afford the
- 1:37Speaker 1: rights to the Crossroads by Bone Thugs and Harmony. And
- 1:42Speaker 1: why would I play you that specific slice of translucent
- 1:46Speaker 1: ghost Cheese? Could I afford it? Because that was the
- 1:50Speaker 1: number one song in America on May fifth, nineteen ninety six,
- 1:55Speaker 1: And that was the day that Sublime singer Bradley knowl
- 1:59Speaker 1: unknowingly formed for the final time. In this episode, massive Riots,
- 2:05Speaker 1: police Helicopters, Unspeakable Deeds, rehab in the Preachers of Long
- 2:10Speaker 1: Beach Sublime, I'm Jake Brennan in This.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Is Disgrace Landing.
- 2:40Speaker 1: If Bradley Noel's face had hit the sand any harder,
- 2:43Speaker 1: it would have left Mark. A sprinting body slammed into
- 2:47Speaker 1: him from behind. He flew face first into the beach,
- 2:51Speaker 1: gobbling a mouthful of sand. His vision went black for
- 2:54Speaker 1: a moment, but his well trained ears told him the
- 2:57Speaker 1: rest scream shrieking teenage girls, shrieking frat boys fleeing Fourth
- 3:03Speaker 1: of July picnics, college kids sprinting while spilling their precious beer,
- 3:08Speaker 1: Looters trying not to spill their bounty, bodies colliding, broken bottles,
- 3:12Speaker 1: slicing open bare feet. Firecrackers lit before the chaos snapped
- 3:17Speaker 1: in the background. Those pissed the cops off the most.
- 3:21Speaker 1: One fell to the ground next to Brad and popped
- 3:23Speaker 1: directly in his ear.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Fuck that was loud.
- 3:27Speaker 1: He couldn't see Long Beach's finest, but he could hear them.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Beach goers knocking into helmets and chest protectors, clinking handcuffs
- 3:35Speaker 1: For the unlucky.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Ones who couldn't run fast enough.
- 3:38Speaker 1: The cops were trying to herd or riot to where.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Brad had no clue. The cops didn't seem to know either.
- 3:46Speaker 1: They were on the Long Beach Peninsula, for Christ's sake.
- 3:48Speaker 1: There weren't many places to put four hundred people, so
- 3:51Speaker 1: they suited up and started making arrests instead. Half of
- 3:58Speaker 1: these people hadn't done anything wrong. Half of these people
- 4:02Speaker 1: had just been on the peninsula to sea Brad's new
- 4:04Speaker 1: bands Sublime perform. To throw back a few beers on
- 4:08Speaker 1: a paid holiday didn't matter to the cops. Anyone present
- 4:12Speaker 1: could have been one of the rabble rousing moters who
- 4:14Speaker 1: had torn apart the center of town. Something about the
- 4:18Speaker 1: rugged reggae rock Sublime had dished out that evening gave
- 4:21Speaker 1: onlookers an itch to act out. In itch, they scratched
- 4:25Speaker 1: by smashing the windows of nearby stores in between smashing
- 4:28Speaker 1: empty beer bottles on the street. First there were ten
- 4:32Speaker 1: cops staying cool, trying to keep everyone cool, and then
- 4:36Speaker 1: that one fucker lighting off fireworks ruined it for everybody.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Around nine pm, forty more officers arrived and they were
- 4:44Speaker 1: itching to bring some new faces downtown. Anyone who didn't
- 4:48Speaker 1: vacate the peninsula in the next ten minutes.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Was leaving in the back of a cruiser.
- 4:53Speaker 1: As people scrambled across the beach, the remaining troublemakers retaliated
- 4:57Speaker 1: with a slew of carefully aided roaming candles, and Brad's
- 5:01Speaker 1: band Sublime, had been the soundtrack to the chaos up
- 5:05Speaker 1: until a few minutes ago. At least the melee swarmed
- 5:09Speaker 1: around him. It hummed like an agitated drunken bee hive
- 5:13Speaker 1: in a wait. That was the police chopper descending from overhead.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Time to get the hell out of here.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Brad dragged himself to his knees, squinting through the sudden
- 5:22Speaker 1: sandstorm grains of sand stung his eyes, chopped his lips. Then,
- 5:27Speaker 1: from behind another body, a hand gripped his shoulder. This
- 5:31Speaker 1: time Bud goal his drummer, vans loaded. Let's go, he
- 5:36Speaker 1: shouted over the date of the chopper. He pulled Brad
- 5:38Speaker 1: to his feet. They sprinted across the sand, forced a
- 5:41Speaker 1: path through the throng of bodies. Then Brad spotted him.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Their van pulled over on the side of the road
- 5:47Speaker 1: a few blocks ahead their new north Star. He and
- 5:51Speaker 1: Bud scampered past broken store windows, skipped over forties broken
- 5:55Speaker 1: in the street, over coolers and solo cups. It was
- 5:59Speaker 1: a game of fourth of Live Frogger. Some dumbass who
- 6:02Speaker 1: hadn't learned their lesson was still rocketing fireworks from a
- 6:04Speaker 1: nearby rooftop. As Brad and Bud approached. Eric Wilson, their
- 6:09Speaker 1: bassist in today's Getaway, driver, threw open the backseat door
- 6:13Speaker 1: with expert timing. Brad and Bud stuck the landing, crashed
- 6:17Speaker 1: into the back seat, slammed the door immediately, and for
- 6:20Speaker 1: a moment it was silent. Bud and Brad panted, Fuck,
- 6:24Speaker 1: you're waiting for drive, Bud said between breaths. Eric was unfazed,
- 6:29Speaker 1: he twisted around from the driver's seat to face his bandmates.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Pretty good for a first show, right. Not every Sublime
- 6:39Speaker 1: show erupted into chaos like the first one. That one
- 6:42Speaker 1: earned its own nickname, the infamous Peninsular Riot of nineteen
- 6:46Speaker 1: eighty eight. Seven arrests in the books, multiple articles in
- 6:50Speaker 1: the local papers, none of which mentioned the band's involvement.
- 6:54Speaker 2: If you could call it.
- 6:55Speaker 1: That, most of their early show were like today, in
- 7:01Speaker 1: a neighborhood far from the Long Beach Peninsula. The house
- 7:05Speaker 1: has changed, but the environment was always the same. Moldy
- 7:09Speaker 1: basements with no breathing room, sweaty bodies packed to fire
- 7:13Speaker 1: hazard levels, condensation on the walls thick enough to make
- 7:17Speaker 1: you queasy.
- 7:18Speaker 2: It would be no rock club club today.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Sublime was in the seatier section of town, nestled far
- 7:24Speaker 1: away from the watchful eyes of the police. Brad liked
- 7:27Speaker 1: it better around here, anyways, where everyone was on equal
- 7:31Speaker 1: footing street parks, surfers, skaters, gangsters, all pressed shouldered to
- 7:36Speaker 1: shoulder in basements, in backyards inhanalling the same secondhand smoke,
- 7:41Speaker 1: pissing in the same clogged toilets, drinking from the same
- 7:45Speaker 1: keg of cheap beer in some cases.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Shooting up with the same needles.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Brad watched it all unfold with solemn arm, smoking a
- 7:55Speaker 1: couple of joints.
- 7:56Speaker 2: That was one thing.
- 7:58Speaker 1: You could smoke two joints before you smoked another two
- 8:00Speaker 1: joints and what.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Made you giggle? He munched on a few too many.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Potato chips before passing out on the sofa heroin. Though
- 8:09Speaker 1: heroin was a straight up life ruinner, Brad respected that
- 8:13Speaker 1: kind of power more accurately.
- 8:16Speaker 2: He feared it. Hell.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Even the riddle and he had taken as a kid
- 8:20Speaker 1: changed the way he saw drugs. He was popping those
- 8:23Speaker 1: every day at only ten years old, for add and
- 8:26Speaker 1: he knew how dependencies worked. So when the needles came out,
- 8:31Speaker 1: sometimes Brad averted his gaze, but more often he watched
- 8:36Speaker 1: took mental notes. He was bad at hiding his fascination.
- 8:40Speaker 1: The partygoer studied him back, and they noted the way
- 8:43Speaker 1: his left hand was cocked at an awkward angle and
- 8:45Speaker 1: he played guitar. A careless fall from a tree as
- 8:48Speaker 1: a teenager had damaged his wrist, which never healed properly.
- 8:52Speaker 2: It had literally altered his bone structure.
- 8:55Speaker 1: He could have had it corrected by a doctor if
- 8:57Speaker 1: you wanted break it again, and said it early this time,
- 9:00Speaker 1: but he didn't want to. When an audience listened to Sublime,
- 9:05Speaker 1: they heard themselves. They heard neurly stories, sweetened by Brad's
- 9:09Speaker 1: smooth like honey voice. Sublime didn't pedal that some kissed
- 9:13Speaker 1: candy coated bullshit about California the way the television did.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Sublime dressed down tinsel Town with trash tails, wrapped it
- 9:21Speaker 1: all up in a style that was too fast to
- 9:23Speaker 1: be true reggae, but too tropical to be true punk.
- 9:27Speaker 1: People heard pages torn from their own diaries, taken right
- 9:30Speaker 1: from the streets because Sublime paid attention. Brad paid attention.
- 9:39Speaker 1: One of the band's earliest tunes, Date Rape, got their
- 9:42Speaker 1: crowds all kinds of worked up. It was vulgar skanky,
- 9:46Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for the creeps. Its stomping baseline obliterated
- 9:51Speaker 1: the unpleasant subject matter and jolted awake. Even the most
- 9:54Speaker 1: stoned and stupefied crowds in inevitably got the neighbors banging
- 9:58Speaker 1: on the front door, bitching about the no Either way,
- 10:02Speaker 1: people were talking about Sublime. People told their friends, who
- 10:06Speaker 1: told their classmates who told their friends a new party
- 10:09Speaker 1: would be booked before Sublime could even encore at the
- 10:11Speaker 1: current one. After a year or two, it was official.
- 10:16Speaker 1: It wasn't a party in Long Beach if Sublime wasn't playing,
- 10:19Speaker 1: and if the cops didn't break the party up, and
- 10:21Speaker 1: they often did, Sublime would usually leave with two hundred
- 10:24Speaker 1: dollars in cash in their pockets and three bellies full
- 10:27Speaker 1: of beer. But Brad got something more out of it.
- 10:30Speaker 1: He got stories, real stories, the hookers, the dealers that
- 10:35Speaker 1: depressed the drug he cataloged at all he saw the
- 10:39Speaker 1: same things as the kids he performed for saw they
- 10:42Speaker 1: had a mutual understanding. But Brad needed more from Sublime.
- 10:47Speaker 1: He didn't want to be a star in California. He
- 10:49Speaker 1: wanted to be a star from California, out preaching the
- 10:53Speaker 1: gospel of the fiend's friends and fuck ups he surrounded
- 10:56Speaker 1: himself with. When he looked inside himself, envisioned to prophet,
- 11:01Speaker 1: he'd be their underdog, their champion, the most qualified.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Man in the LBCNE.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Brad's bed frame rattled as he kicked the sheets off.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Sweat coated every part of his body, his forehead, his
- 11:42Speaker 1: chest pooled on his stomach. Beads formed around his brows
- 11:45Speaker 1: and then dripped into his eyes with a salty sting.
- 11:49Speaker 1: If he wasn't crying already, he was now. The sheets
- 11:53Speaker 1: were still sticking to him. He thrashed around more, which
- 11:57Speaker 1: spurred on a muscle spasm in his left leg.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Fuck.
- 12:01Speaker 1: He gripped the edge of the bed while he wrote
- 12:02Speaker 1: it out, knuckles white teeth gnashing. The spasm hurt like
- 12:07Speaker 1: a motherfucker. It hurt almost as bad as the heroin withdraws.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Somewhere along the line, his morbid fascination with the drug
- 12:16Speaker 1: had gotten the best of him. When Brad shot up
- 12:19Speaker 1: for the first time, he hadn't pictured this. He hadn't
- 12:22Speaker 1: pictured much of anything.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Really.
- 12:24Speaker 1: He just wanted more, more from himself, more from his band.
- 12:29Speaker 1: He knew better music was in there, buried inside of him.
- 12:32Speaker 1: He just needed to draw it out, so he drew
- 12:35Speaker 1: it out by injecting himself with dope. Brad's concerns about
- 12:41Speaker 1: not reaching his full potential as a musician had tipped
- 12:44Speaker 1: the scales. He no longer feared heroin. He feared what
- 12:48Speaker 1: his career would be without heroin. It was nineteen ninety three.
- 12:53Speaker 1: Time to make real moves. Those first recordings, they were good,
- 12:58Speaker 1: but they didn't dig deep. In jo Won't Pay the
- 13:01Speaker 1: Bills was admirably scrappy, but the album wasn't about to
- 13:05Speaker 1: pay any of his bills either. Forty Ounces to Freedom
- 13:08Speaker 1: had been his most recent project, but even that record
- 13:11Speaker 1: hadn't left the West Coast. They nailed the style, sky
- 13:15Speaker 1: punker or whatever their fans were calling it these days,
- 13:17Speaker 1: but the storytelling needed a lift. Sublime had real skin
- 13:22Speaker 1: in the game now. John Phillips and an our intern
- 13:25Speaker 1: from Gasoline, ally in no relation to anyone in the
- 13:28Speaker 1: Mamas and the Papas, had taken serious interest in the band,
- 13:32Speaker 1: such an interest that he casually invited the band to
- 13:34Speaker 1: his house in Los Angeles to perform. Sublime had graduated
- 13:39Speaker 1: from Long Beach basements to Hollywood Hills living rooms. They
- 13:43Speaker 1: were so close. The knowledge made Brad lean into his
- 13:46Speaker 1: lopsided relationship with heroin even harder. He leaned in so
- 13:51Speaker 1: hard that he couldn't tell where the benefits ended and
- 13:53Speaker 1: where the drawbacks began. Heroin makes you more creative, or
- 13:58Speaker 1: so with the attic logic, so of course you take
- 14:01Speaker 1: more heroin. But the heroin also makes you nod off, drowsy, dumb,
- 14:05Speaker 1: so you lay off it for a while. But the
- 14:07Speaker 1: withdrawals make you itch, make you sweat, make you puke,
- 14:10Speaker 1: make you crazy, so you score more, shoot up, you
- 14:13Speaker 1: write some of the best songs of your life, and
- 14:15Speaker 1: then you can't even stay awake long enough to record them.
- 14:19Speaker 1: But whether or not it made sense to quit Heroin
- 14:21Speaker 1: dependent on the day, dependent on the hour, depended on
- 14:23Speaker 1: what Brad ate for breakfast. A few hours ago, kicking
- 14:28Speaker 1: seemed like a good idea, and now, lying in a
- 14:31Speaker 1: veritable swamp of sweat, skull throbbing, muscles twitching not so much.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Stepping outside to score on the streets of Long Beach
- 14:39Speaker 1: would be so easy. Brad tried to relax his muscles
- 14:44Speaker 1: for a moment, unclenched, his jaw exiled, no use. The
- 14:48Speaker 1: needles kept drilling into his skull. His body felt locked
- 14:52Speaker 1: in a tremor. Why was he doing this to himself?
- 14:55Speaker 1: It wasn't going to change anything. Rehab hadn't even changed anything.
- 14:59Speaker 1: He knew that from experience. He had already gone once
- 15:01Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two and left after a few days unsuccessful,
- 15:05Speaker 1: and relapsed too many times to count. Why couldn't he
- 15:08Speaker 1: get his shit together? Budd had he had stepped away
- 15:14Speaker 1: from the band for a while, did his time in rehab.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Sure it was taken a couple tries, but he was
- 15:19Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life. And Eric, he
- 15:21Speaker 1: never even touched her when to begin with Smart Kid.
- 15:24Speaker 1: They still got into trouble. That was their brand, after all,
- 15:27Speaker 1: that was their band, but not the kind of trouble
- 15:29Speaker 1: Bradley was dabbling in. There were little patterns the band
- 15:33Speaker 1: began to notice. Their gear had started to grow legs
- 15:37Speaker 1: before shows and show up in local pawn shops. Miguel's
- 15:41Speaker 1: Sublime's manager would have to track down amps and instruments
- 15:44Speaker 1: before curtain call and buy them back on his own dime.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Bradley's father had noticed, too, trinkets disappearing from his house
- 15:52Speaker 1: when Brad visited, antiques that no one would even notice
- 15:55Speaker 1: were missing until long after they were gone. The guilt
- 15:59Speaker 1: nod at Brad's stomach while he pot at the air.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Remorse smacked him harder when he was this delirious, When
- 16:05Speaker 1: he was quote unquote doing time, as he called it,
- 16:08Speaker 1: Blue Dog, his beloved dalmatian, hopped under the bed next
- 16:11Speaker 1: to him and watched with concern. There was another thing.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Brad had started getting virgins high, people who had never
- 16:19Speaker 1: tried heroin before. It was an unspoken rule and sublime
- 16:23Speaker 1: circle that he didn't shoot up newbies, and there was
- 16:26Speaker 1: even a term for people who did what Brad was doing, badfish.
- 16:30Speaker 1: But Brad couldn't contain himself. He wanted to share the
- 16:33Speaker 1: forbidden ritual that made him so giddy that dizzy ascent
- 16:37Speaker 1: to euphoria brutal. But there was no euphoria now. He
- 16:43Speaker 1: felt his body was crashing, like being dropped on cement
- 16:47Speaker 1: over and over again, like being bowled over on the
- 16:51Speaker 1: beach that day of their first show, Christ that felt
- 16:53Speaker 1: like a lifetime ago. And for every ounce of certainty
- 16:56Speaker 1: he had about becoming a star, he had two ounces
- 16:58Speaker 1: of doubt that he'd never be able to get truly clean,
- 17:01Speaker 1: and that he was destined to be a junkie forever.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Speaking of ances, he could really go for one right
- 17:07Speaker 1: about now. Stepping outside would be so easy. He sat
- 17:12Speaker 1: up in bed and waited until the room stopped spinning
- 17:14Speaker 1: to speak, Come on, Louis, let's go for a walk.
- 17:22Speaker 1: October nineteen ninety three. John Phillips stood outside of the
- 17:26Speaker 1: door of his uncle's office at Gasolene Alley for the
- 17:30Speaker 1: third time that day. He raised a trembling fist and
- 17:33Speaker 1: knocked on his uncle's store. Randy Phillips the store, the
- 17:36Speaker 1: president of gasoline Alley's store, as John let himself in
- 17:41Speaker 1: a gaggle of suits, turned back to look at him wordlessly.
- 17:44Speaker 1: We have to make time for Sublime. They're restless, John said.
- 17:48Speaker 1: He tried to find a way to put it nicely.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Randy shook his head without even looking out from the
- 17:53Speaker 1: paperwork in front of him. The R and B group
- 17:55Speaker 1: Shy was currently in the building, and at that very
- 17:58Speaker 1: moment in pop culture was the cash cow. Young women
- 18:02Speaker 1: were flocking to the vocal group with fistfuls of cash
- 18:04Speaker 1: in the early nineteen nineties, and as such, Shy was
- 18:08Speaker 1: the priority. Besides, Randy Phillips didn't rearrange his day for
- 18:12Speaker 1: filthy skate punks. John Phillips's uncle didn't get it. None
- 18:16Speaker 1: of the suits staring at him got it either. John
- 18:19Speaker 1: bet the farm on this band. He hand picked Sublime
- 18:22Speaker 1: to be the first band he himself ever signed. He
- 18:26Speaker 1: had heard, the potential, seen, the potential. Forty ounces to
- 18:29Speaker 1: Freedom was unreal the next Nirvana, John thought that or
- 18:33Speaker 1: a scussy kunt of beach boys. They packaged California in
- 18:37Speaker 1: an honest way that made locals proud and outsiders jealous.
- 18:41Speaker 1: These white collar basterds just didn't get it, which was
- 18:43Speaker 1: the bad news for them, missing out on a chance
- 18:46Speaker 1: to sign a band like this. But it was also
- 18:49Speaker 1: bad news considering that a few floors below them. At
- 18:52Speaker 1: that very moment, Sublime was shall we say, redecorating John's
- 18:57Speaker 1: office again louder this time, Bradley said, flicking the cap
- 19:01Speaker 1: off another beer, gesturing for Eric to hit play on
- 19:04Speaker 1: Robin the Hood for the upteenth time that day. They
- 19:07Speaker 1: had come prepared with their newest effort and had promptly
- 19:10Speaker 1: popped it into John CD player. What they hadn't considered
- 19:14Speaker 1: is that they had showed up unannounced. Suits don't do
- 19:18Speaker 1: spontaneous They don't do same day deals either, but that
- 19:22Speaker 1: had been the expectation when Sublime, lou Dog, and a
- 19:25Speaker 1: handful of other confidants strolled into Gasoline Alley headquarters that day,
- 19:29Speaker 1: ready to ink some contracts and cash some hefty checks.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Brad in particular wanted that hefty check he already knew
- 19:36Speaker 1: what he'd.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Spend it on.
- 19:38Speaker 1: In the hours since they arrived, the band made themselves
- 19:41Speaker 1: a little too comfortable in John Phillips's office. Furniture had
- 19:45Speaker 1: been rearranged, Bottles cluttered every open surface, Popcorn crumbs, cigarette
- 19:50Speaker 1: butts and ashes littered the carpet. Serve them right for
- 19:53Speaker 1: not having a proper ash train. But as their stash
- 19:56Speaker 1: of liquor and weed ran low, so did Sublime's pace.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Where's the bathroom in this place? I got a piss,
- 20:03Speaker 1: Eric said, setting down an empty looks like Ludog does too,
- 20:06Speaker 1: he said, gesturing to the Dalmatian, who had started to
- 20:09Speaker 1: shift around uncomfortably doing the I gotta go a squirm.
- 20:13Speaker 1: He'll be fine, Brad said, with a twinkle in his
- 20:15Speaker 1: eye that insinuated that it would not be fine. Rather,
- 20:19Speaker 1: the carpet would not be fine. As Eric returned from
- 20:22Speaker 1: the bathroom, he could smell the pot from down the hallway,
- 20:26Speaker 1: and then he smelled the dog shit, and then he
- 20:28Speaker 1: saw the dog shit. Time to bounce all the way
- 20:32Speaker 1: out of the parking lot. Something caught Brad's eye, the
- 20:34Speaker 1: glimmer of a classic BMW that just so happened to
- 20:37Speaker 1: be parked in Randy Phillips's reserve spot. He slapped a
- 20:41Speaker 1: homemade Sublime bumper sticker on his pristine rear rim, a
- 20:45Speaker 1: second subtle insult to pair with the dog shit reeking
- 20:48Speaker 1: in the office. John faced the wrath of his uncle
- 20:52Speaker 1: later that day. Finally, someone say incredibly. Nine months later,
- 20:57Speaker 1: John miraculously secured a six record deal for Sublime. The
- 21:02Speaker 1: suits looked past the incidents for the sake of shutting
- 21:05Speaker 1: them up. John didn't care. Neither it Sublime. This was
- 21:08Speaker 1: the big win they had been waiting for. John stopped
- 21:11Speaker 1: by his uncle's desk one afternoon as he drew up
- 21:14Speaker 1: the contracts. They're worth it, but I have to warn
- 21:16Speaker 1: you they do have some issues. They can be a
- 21:19Speaker 1: bit of a handful. John's uncle, Randy Phillips, looked up
- 21:22Speaker 1: from his desks this time.
- 21:25Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit, We'll be right back after this word
- 21:30Speaker 2: word word.
- 21:36Speaker 1: November two, nineteen ninety five, Portland, Oregon, Sublime pulled into
- 21:42Speaker 1: the parking lot of a deserted Denny's, just a few
- 21:44Speaker 1: miles from Roseland Hill, where they had just crushed their
- 21:47Speaker 1: most recent show with Lords of Brooklyn and Wesley Willis
- 21:51Speaker 1: The Green LCD Clock on their dashboard read two two am.
- 21:57Speaker 1: It was time to indulge in a great American touring tree, addition,
- 22:00Speaker 1: eating diner slob in the wee hours of the morning.
- 22:04Speaker 1: But one particular Denny's was denying Sublime that rite of passage,
- 22:09Speaker 1: This sad excuse of a Denny's had closed an hour
- 22:12Speaker 1: prior a waiter reluctantly let them inside. Anyways, what kind
- 22:17Speaker 1: of horseshit is this Denny's closed? Wasn't that the whole
- 22:20Speaker 1: point that they were never closed? No one chooses a Denny's.
- 22:24Speaker 1: You were forced to go to a Denny's because nothing
- 22:26Speaker 1: else is open. They had a twist of waitress's arm
- 22:29Speaker 1: to even seat them. In hindsight, they should have high
- 22:33Speaker 1: tailed it. Then, the late night breakfast they received was inedible,
- 22:37Speaker 1: even by touring band standards. Soggy pancakes, merely hash browns,
- 22:42Speaker 1: overcooked bacon that resembled well worn leather.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Wardo, one of Sublime's faithful roadies, ordered chicken fried steak.
- 22:50Speaker 1: It arrived looking like it had just been retrieved from
- 22:52Speaker 1: the trash.
- 22:53Speaker 2: He swore there were.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Already bites missing, and that was it. Half the food
- 22:58Speaker 1: returned to the kitchen untouched. The band started hatching their
- 23:02Speaker 1: plan for a swift departure, but a new waiter interrupted
- 23:05Speaker 1: the grumbling, is that your motorhome up back? Or having
- 23:09Speaker 1: it towed? Oh?
- 23:11Speaker 2: Hell no.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Bud and Wardo rushed into the parking lot before the
- 23:17Speaker 1: tow truck could arrive. As they ripped open the motorhome's door,
- 23:20Speaker 1: Wardo got an idea. Wardo had caught a whiff of
- 23:23Speaker 1: the motor home septic tank. The overflowing basin dribbled a
- 23:27Speaker 1: mix of shit, pissed puke, and gnarly blue disinfectant. Every
- 23:30Speaker 1: time they turned a corner too fast. You could smell
- 23:34Speaker 1: it even if it hadn't spilled earlier that day, and
- 23:37Speaker 1: that if it had, well, let's hope you had a
- 23:39Speaker 1: military grade air freshener. The fucker was full, but not
- 23:43Speaker 1: for long. Put the sing in reverse, the pair backed
- 23:47Speaker 1: the motor home up to the back doors of the
- 23:49Speaker 1: Denny's kitchen. The motorhome septic tank pomp lined up perfectly
- 23:53Speaker 1: with the air vents at the bottom of the restaurant's doors.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Wardo stepped outside and removed the septic tank cap.
- 24:00Speaker 2: He tugged and the plunger and.
- 24:02Speaker 1: A steady stream of sewage spewed from the tank and
- 24:05Speaker 1: sloshed through the restaurant's kitchen doors. The remnants of one
- 24:09Speaker 1: hundred parties and hangovers painted the tiles of that Denny's
- 24:12Speaker 1: a nauseating shade of electric blue. When the tank was empty,
- 24:16Speaker 1: an inch of excrement coated the floor of the back entrance.
- 24:20Speaker 1: The band loaded into the mobile home and skid it
- 24:22Speaker 1: out of the parking lot. Between the tire marks, they
- 24:26Speaker 1: left a trail of bright blue goom. Nothing ever came
- 24:32Speaker 1: of it, no arrest, no mugshots, no mobile home car chases.
- 24:36Speaker 1: The police couldn't dust for fingerprints and raw sewage. Bad
- 24:40Speaker 1: behavior had always been Sublime's hallmark, but a pattern had formed.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Their stunts were getting dumber, and they were getting grosser,
- 24:48Speaker 1: and the consequences were nearly non existent. The more people
- 24:53Speaker 1: liked them, the more they felt like they had a
- 24:54Speaker 1: reputation to uphold, and the more they made good on
- 24:57Speaker 1: that reputation, the more people expect and ate it up.
- 25:02Speaker 1: And the haters ate it up too, nearly choked on it,
- 25:04Speaker 1: and that tickled the band the most. A bad reaction
- 25:08Speaker 1: was better than no reaction. Sublime knew that much to
- 25:11Speaker 1: be true. They had Kroq to thank for their newfound notoriety.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Earlier that year, a ballsy intern of the Los Angeles
- 25:22Speaker 1: Radio Giant had come forth with date rape. Despite being
- 25:26Speaker 1: seven years old at that point and despite the gruesome
- 25:28Speaker 1: subject matter, the song took off, first at KROQ and
- 25:33Speaker 1: then across the country.
- 25:35Speaker 2: People couldn't believe their ears.
- 25:37Speaker 1: This is a song about an incarcerated eight rapist who's
- 25:40Speaker 1: then raped in prison. On FM radio, had they heard
- 25:44Speaker 1: that right? They dialed in to hear it again. The
- 25:47Speaker 1: airplay moved the needle for Sublime. Overnight promoters blew up
- 25:51Speaker 1: their phones the way listeners were blowing up radio station
- 25:53Speaker 1: phone lines, eager to book Sublime for any show they'd
- 25:56Speaker 1: agreed to. In fact, the band was so grateful to
- 25:59Speaker 1: kro Q that when they were offered an on air
- 26:02Speaker 1: interview with Djjed the Fish, they spent the segment passing
- 26:05Speaker 1: around joints and cups of tequila.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Kroq may have.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Played songs about smoking joints and drinking tequila, but it
- 26:12Speaker 1: was understood that you didn't do either of those things
- 26:14Speaker 1: in the radio station. Furious at the disrespect, Kroq pulled
- 26:19Speaker 1: the song from rotation and djjed the fish was no
- 26:23Speaker 1: longer a fan, but it was too late. The acerbic
- 26:27Speaker 1: irony of date rape had already swept the nation. Warped
- 26:30Speaker 1: Tour had been the same way.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Sublime.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Sheeneigans quickly wore out their welcome and they were temporarily
- 26:36Speaker 1: removed from the lineup, all because lou Dog had bitten
- 26:40Speaker 1: a few people. Then the Band of Moon in the audience,
- 26:42Speaker 1: and they showed up to their sets and drunken stupors
- 26:45Speaker 1: and broke a table on the bus they shared with
- 26:47Speaker 1: Orange nine millimeter, and they missed only four dates. One
- 26:51Speaker 1: of their manager's smooth talked Warped tourist primary investor, who
- 26:55Speaker 1: realized that fans were demanding that Sublime be re added
- 26:57Speaker 1: to the bill. The massive way of popularity they were
- 27:01Speaker 1: writing drowned out all those pesky, petty repercussions. And if
- 27:05Speaker 1: anyone knew how to ride a wave while the tides
- 27:07Speaker 1: were in their favor, it was Sublime. Brad felt his
- 27:13Speaker 1: own destiny propelling him forward. He didn't realize the undertow
- 27:17Speaker 1: was yanking him backwards too Early nineteen ninety six, Peternale's
- 27:24Speaker 1: studio Austin, Texas, lyrics man lyrics are hard. Brad repeated
- 27:31Speaker 1: it like a mantra. If it was supposed to be
- 27:33Speaker 1: centering his mind, it wasn't working. Sublime was locked down
- 27:37Speaker 1: trying to record a full length album that barely existed.
- 27:40Speaker 1: He could blame the lack of new material on one
- 27:43Speaker 1: of two things. One, Brad was a family man, now
- 27:47Speaker 1: seemingly overnight, a bigger priority than music arrived. His longtime sweetheart, Troy,
- 27:52Speaker 1: gave birth to his son the previous year, a beautiful
- 27:55Speaker 1: baby boy named Jacob. Brad finally had his iron clad
- 28:00Speaker 1: reason to quit Heroin, so he had, or you could blame.
- 28:04Speaker 2: It on number two.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Bradley needed to be larger than life now more than ever.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Bradley the man, the musician, the scussy so coal singer
- 28:12Speaker 1: had become Brad the caricature in hell if he wasn't
- 28:15Speaker 1: going to deliver. Brad finally had his reason to continue
- 28:19Speaker 1: with Heroin, so he did that too. He made like
- 28:23Speaker 1: Sublime's mobile home and had put his hard earned progress
- 28:26Speaker 1: in reverse, and liked the mobile home. Shit went everywhere.
- 28:30Speaker 1: He dove right back into his old habits hard. But
- 28:35Speaker 1: when the needles came back out, Eric and Bud retreated.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Their contributions to the record became rope. They came in,
- 28:41Speaker 1: performed their parts, and steered clear of Brad, who was
- 28:44Speaker 1: nearly too high to handle, or worse, too high to
- 28:47Speaker 1: be remotely productive. They were well aware that the album
- 28:51Speaker 1: was currently in shambles at best. More importantly, Gasoline Alley
- 28:55Speaker 1: recognized it too. After five weeks at Pedernale Studio, the
- 29:00Speaker 1: label sent Brad home to clean up his act, clear
- 29:03Speaker 1: his head, and reclaim his writing chops. When Brad touched
- 29:08Speaker 1: down in California, Troy and Jacob weren't waiting there, for
- 29:12Speaker 1: Troy had packed her things and split until Bradley could
- 29:15Speaker 1: look her in the eyes and say he was clean again.
- 29:18Speaker 1: His up teeth relapse was her proverbial final straw. It
- 29:22Speaker 1: was Brad's too, for the final time. Brad kicked for
- 29:29Speaker 1: one moment in time. The entire band was clean, and
- 29:33Speaker 1: they finished the album clean, played it, sold out shows clean.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Months past. Brad's resolved didn't break. The label took notice
- 29:40Speaker 1: of that too. Tours of the East Coast in Europe
- 29:43Speaker 1: were arranged, and their slice of California was going global.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Brad bought travel books to pour over in preparation. He
- 29:50Speaker 1: bought something else too, a shiny new ring for Troy.
- 29:54Speaker 1: On May eighteenth, nineteen ninety six, they wed in Las Vegas.
- 29:59Speaker 1: He had been clean for three months. Brad did not
- 30:02Speaker 1: say it, It was written on his face, practically bursting
- 30:05Speaker 1: out of him. This was the happiest he'd ever been
- 30:08Speaker 1: in his life.
- 30:09Speaker 2: It was sticking. It was really sticking.
- 30:11Speaker 1: He had struck down one half of his destiny and
- 30:14Speaker 1: resuscitated the other. In this moment, he had more reasons
- 30:17Speaker 1: to celebrate than he ever had in his life. Sublime
- 30:21Speaker 1: had one tour left before it was wheels up for
- 30:23Speaker 1: the East Coast and then overseas a small slow of
- 30:27Speaker 1: shows up the California coast Child's Play. He kissed Troy
- 30:31Speaker 1: on their wedding day and again a few days later
- 30:33Speaker 1: before the band embarked on the tour. It was the
- 30:36Speaker 1: last time they had never seen each other. On May
- 31:02Speaker 1: twenty fourth, nineteen ninety six, Bradley Knowles smoked a crack
- 31:06Speaker 1: for breakfast. He was in a stranger's home in Chico, California.
- 31:11Speaker 1: A strange promoter offered him drugs. He accepted, and he
- 31:14Speaker 1: wouldn't stop again for the rest of his life. The
- 31:19Speaker 1: band watched with trepidation.
- 31:21Speaker 2: Was he doing He had a new son, a new wife,
- 31:24Speaker 2: and a new lease on life that he had.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Fought so hard for. Brad offered a flimsy counterpoint. Exactly,
- 31:31Speaker 1: it was so much to celebrate. He needed to diffuse
- 31:33Speaker 1: his excitement with that dizzy ascent again. And besides, Sublime
- 31:37Speaker 1: owed it to themselves to quote unquote party one last time.
- 31:41Speaker 1: They had earned this. But and Eric vehemently disagreed. The
- 31:45Speaker 1: Clean Sublime had earned this. The Clean Sublime was the
- 31:49Speaker 1: reason the album was done, the reason that they had
- 31:51Speaker 1: two major tours on the horizon. But Brad had already
- 31:55Speaker 1: buckled over breakfast. He scored again that afternoon before their
- 31:59Speaker 1: show and a luma at the Phoenix Theater. Within a
- 32:02Speaker 1: few hours, everything had changed. Brad wasn't outside before the
- 32:07Speaker 1: show skating with fans. He wasn't letting them come inside
- 32:10Speaker 1: the motor Home to hang out like usual either. The
- 32:13Speaker 1: performance that night was tepid, The fans could feel a
- 32:17Speaker 1: shift in the energy. Hours passed, Brad kept going, kept scoring.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Eric and Bud wanted no part of it. They wrangled
- 32:25Speaker 1: Bradley into the Motorhome after the show and prayed that
- 32:28Speaker 1: he'd cool off by the time they reached their next destination.
- 32:32Speaker 1: When they parked at the Ocean Front Motel in San Francisco,
- 32:36Speaker 1: Eric and Sublime's manager Miguel parked themselves in bed.
- 32:40Speaker 2: No parties, no dope.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Bud passed out in the adjacent room he was sharing
- 32:45Speaker 1: with Bradley, a room that he currently had to himself,
- 32:48Speaker 1: since brad had been quick to vanish into the night
- 32:50Speaker 1: when he saw that his bandmates were too lame to
- 32:52Speaker 1: join him in some after show antics. The band didn't
- 32:56Speaker 1: see him again until ten am the next morning, when
- 32:59Speaker 1: he came rapping on the door. There were ten foot
- 33:01Speaker 1: waves today, he cleaned, with a childlike exuberance to put
- 33:04Speaker 1: down to the shore or take lou Dog.
- 33:06Speaker 2: For a walk.
- 33:07Speaker 1: Eric rolled over and flipped him off. Miguel ignored the
- 33:10Speaker 1: invitation too. Next door, Bud was passed out even harder.
- 33:15Speaker 1: If he had been invited along for the walk, he
- 33:17Speaker 1: hadn't heard it. He saw logs for a few more hours,
- 33:20Speaker 1: pleasantly undisturbed. It was afternoon now and the California's sun
- 33:24Speaker 1: peeked through the windows and nudged but awake. He opened
- 33:28Speaker 1: his bleary eyes and.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Chuckled at what he saw.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Brad, half undressed, bent over the bed, feet firmly planted
- 33:34Speaker 1: on the ground, ass out face smushed.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Into the mattress.
- 33:38Speaker 1: The poor bastard was too fucked up to even make
- 33:40Speaker 1: it under the covers. He stopped laughing when his eyes
- 33:43Speaker 1: wandered to the yellow phone coating his lips. A crust
- 33:46Speaker 1: had already formed at the corners of his mouth. Lou
- 33:49Speaker 1: dog whine curled up in a ball at the corner
- 33:52Speaker 1: of the bed. Bud frantically dialed nine one one, but
- 33:55Speaker 1: he knew it was too late. At twenty eight, Bradley
- 33:58Speaker 1: Noel was dead. Sublime's success, on the other hand, had
- 34:04Speaker 1: suddenly never been more alive. The press coverage poured in
- 34:08Speaker 1: every major news outlet ran a story on Brad's near
- 34:11Speaker 1: twenty seven club faith, while Bud, Eric and Troy mourned
- 34:16Speaker 1: their best friend, Sublime fans grieved by lighting up phone lines.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Just two weeks after Brad's passing, the band's second single,
- 34:24Speaker 1: What I Got, became the most requested.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Song on KROQ.
- 34:29Speaker 1: The sudden surge and popularity fueled Gasoline Alley's next move.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Eric and Bud had decided to disband, but the label
- 34:37Speaker 1: demanded a return on their massive investment. They had sunk
- 34:40Speaker 1: nearly half a million dollars into Brad's recovery alone. Never
- 34:44Speaker 1: mind the studio time budgeting on the release schedule for
- 34:47Speaker 1: the new Sublime, The album meant torpedoing their budget altogether.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Sublime released their self titled album as planned on July thirtieth,
- 34:55Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, and for almost three and a half years,
- 34:58Speaker 1: no one could forget about it.
- 35:00Speaker 2: It was impossible.
- 35:02Speaker 1: The album spent one hundred and seventy nine weeks on
- 35:04Speaker 1: the Billboard one hundred. The new hits, now known as
- 35:08Speaker 1: the Sublime Hits, made sure that the incessant airplay of
- 35:12Speaker 1: Santa Ria, Wrong Way and Doing Time were still moving
- 35:15Speaker 1: forty thousand albums a week. In the fall of nineteen
- 35:18Speaker 1: ninety seven, people across the country, in New England, in
- 35:23Speaker 1: the Deep South, in Nowhere Nebraska all fell in love.
- 35:26Speaker 2: With new songs.
- 35:27Speaker 1: They'd never be able to hear Brad sing live, but
- 35:30Speaker 1: his gospel has spread. Tragedy had that effect. Tragedy spreads
- 35:38Speaker 1: the word around just a hair too late. California had
- 35:42Speaker 1: known about Brad since nineteen eighty eight, but the world
- 35:47Speaker 1: learned Bradley Knowle's name from his obituary and that this
- 35:51Speaker 1: is a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan and this this Disgraceland.
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- 36:59Speaker 2: Rock a Row. He's a bad, bad man.