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It's a Different Taylor Hicks · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast this week on Yo
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  Speaker 1: Gabble Gabble.
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  Speaker 2: If you keep calling your friend's work so she'll pay
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  Speaker 2: you your money back, does that harassment? If Judge Mathis
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  Speaker 2: opens up the dictionary and what happens if you sue
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Hicks?
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  Speaker 1: Does he make you proud? Judge Ross tells real people
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  Speaker 1: thank justice? This is.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, Hey, is Taylor hits really in Ross's courtroom? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: It's a different Taylor hits. Oh sorry, man, Patrol. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to get really, I'm sorry to get you excited.
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  Speaker 2: And mine's a really short when it didn't I don't
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  Speaker 2: ever plan that, I just walkay, No, it happens sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yogable Gable a very simple show where we tell each
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  Speaker 3: other courtroom cases. We try to figure out the verdicts.
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  Speaker 3: I watched one dand and watch it. Dan watched one.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't watch it, And you get to play along
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  Speaker 1: And that's high shirt. That's Dan. You got Mathis today,
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  Speaker 1: I got Mathis. I also have a review. Please leave
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  Speaker 2: hard I wake up my husband. Anyway, this review is
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  Speaker 2: circling the airport with no place to land. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: making a marvelously fantastic show and helping my ADHD brain
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  Speaker 2: to shut up, Jesse, so kind, love it, And yes
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  Speaker 2: I did go to Mathis's courtroom, as I am one
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 1: I love Judge Mathis.
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  Speaker 2: What a wonderful court room, What a wonderful judge, What
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful world, people are saying. Christine Chow Is suing
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  Speaker 2: her former bff Janella Silva for five for five hundred dollars. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. There's some math that's a little wonky.
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  Speaker 2: Janella is countersuing Christine for thirty five hundred dollars for harassment.
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  Speaker 1: Christine, that's more than five hundred, way more.
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  Speaker 2: You got it, Christine says, Listen, Janelle and I have
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  Speaker 2: known each other for ten years, went to high school together.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I could trust her.
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  Speaker 2: She took advantage of me and and she used me
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  Speaker 2: and it was no good. Math is like, what happened?
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  Speaker 2: He's She's like, well, in July, I received a phone call.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, no, no, no, I know it's gonna happen here.
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  Speaker 2: Did anything else happen in your friendship in the ten years?
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  Speaker 2: Or was it all amazing? And then this?
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  Speaker 1: And Christine's like, it was all amazing until so ten years?
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  Speaker 1: Is issu? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: He makes me feel like, I mean, I think we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be friends for everybody. Yeah, I can think about
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  Speaker 3: one thing that can happen. Let's just let's just enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: Until that day, couscass, you know what I mean? Janella says,
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  Speaker 3: we were really close. There was a friend group of six,
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  Speaker 3: but in that six, Christine and I were the closest.
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  Speaker 3: We told each other everything, and she goes, I told
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  Speaker 3: her a lot of things in confidence because I thought
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  Speaker 3: I could trust her, like personal things from my life.
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  Speaker 3: And masis just like like what and Janelle is like, well,
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  Speaker 3: there's secrets.
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  Speaker 2: And he goes, so she kept the secrets and Jella
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  Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, she kept the secrets. He goes, well, great,
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  Speaker 2: so there was no issues there. He goes, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to tell me, I won't. He does a weird bit.
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  Speaker 2: I won't tell anybody if you want to tell me.
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  Speaker 2: It was weird. It's a weird thing that he did.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, it's on TV. But also it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of creepy. Sorry, now he doesn't always hit home runs,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So uh.
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  Speaker 2: Janella also says no problems or anything before this, So
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  Speaker 2: both both are like friends for ten straight years than this.
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  Speaker 2: I received a phone call from Janelle. She was like,
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  Speaker 2: my car is being repossessed. I need six hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 2: not five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: So before and then the Demon case, yeah, they came back.
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  Speaker 1: It was a double extracise. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: It's very similar to a vampire reality show we watch
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  Speaker 2: called re Emerged to Bite where the vampires were killed
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  Speaker 2: and they come back and they live.
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  Speaker 1: In the real world house. We don't have time.
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  Speaker 2: Later we could talk about it. Emerged to Bite and
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  Speaker 2: check it out. Six hundred dollars she needs so they
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  Speaker 2: won't take her car. Yes, we can't do it right now.
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  Speaker 1: We can't.
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  Speaker 2: We can't, we can't, we can't do it. And so
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  Speaker 2: Christine's like, I lent her the money. I lent her
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  Speaker 2: the money. It was six hundred dollars so they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: repossess her car. And she didn't pay me at all. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any money. But then she told me she
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  Speaker 2: would pay me back. She told me she would pay
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  Speaker 2: me back. I waited and waited from July all the
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  Speaker 2: way to January. So for six straight months she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: pay and in January she shows up and gives me
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  Speaker 2: three hundred bucks, so half of it, no problems. And
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  Speaker 2: then matthis goes, how much has she paid you to
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  Speaker 2: this day? She says three fish fifty and he goes,
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  Speaker 2: all right, six hundred minus three fifty is two fifty.
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  Speaker 2: You're suing for five hundred dollars. Christine says, yes, two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty for what she owes me two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty for emotional distress. He's like, what's that about.
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  Speaker 2: She said, well, I didn't need the money at the time.
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  Speaker 2: I was happy to let her borrow it. But it's
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  Speaker 2: been such a hassle. I've had to contact her numerous times.
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  Speaker 2: It's been such a burden. It's really weighing on me
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  Speaker 2: having to get this money back from a friend. And
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  Speaker 2: to this point that Judge Matthis says, so emotional distress
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  Speaker 2: by definition has to be an extreme or outrageous act.
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  Speaker 2: Not paying your bills isn't extreme or outrageous. It's actually
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  Speaker 2: common if people could get emotional distress payments because someone
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  Speaker 2: didn't pay their bills, every bill collection agency would be
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  Speaker 2: in court asking for emotional distress payments. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: You're not suing for five hundred, you're suing for two fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Christine says, okay, let's get to Janella's countersuit. Say, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I did borrow six hundred because of my financial situation.
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  Speaker 2: I just couldn't pay it ever, set a date. I
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  Speaker 2: paid her three hundred and fifty dollars and then things
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  Speaker 2: started to escalate. She started harassing me at work, He goes, well,
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  Speaker 2: why didn't you, Like, when's the last time you made
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  Speaker 2: a payment? She said may. She said well, why why
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  Speaker 2: didn't you make any more payments? Janelle said, well, my
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  Speaker 2: mom and I were dealing with their own situation and
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  Speaker 2: then my mom finally paid off my cars. Who wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: get repossessed again? He goes, do you work? She said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I work. He goes, well, then why did the like
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  Speaker 2: why couldn't you pay her? He's like, well, I just
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  Speaker 2: had to get this money and they were going to
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  Speaker 2: repossess the car. He said why they clearly you weren't
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  Speaker 2: paying the car, like you weren't paying the money in
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  Speaker 2: the car, And she got here's the money going that
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  Speaker 2: she's ranking and so she said, no, I lost my job.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they repossessed the car.
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  Speaker 2: So she doesn't have a job, and he said, one,
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  Speaker 2: they don't repossess the car when you lose your job.
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  Speaker 2: They repossessed the car when you fail to pay. They're
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  Speaker 2: hoping that you have a relative that will swoop in
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  Speaker 2: and pay the car. They don't want to repossess the car,
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  Speaker 2: they want your money. Just because you lost your job
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean they repossessed it. You weren't paying it. She
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, I got my job back and then
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  Speaker 2: I ended up paying it all. So I got my
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  Speaker 2: car out. I have my car. He's like, but why
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  Speaker 2: did they repossess it in the first place. He's trying
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  Speaker 2: to get this information. She just keeps saying she lost
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  Speaker 2: her job. It goes on and on his circle. He goes, or,
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  Speaker 2: why didn't you pay her back? And she said, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I under two fifty. She started harassing me.
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  Speaker 2: How did she rask you? Well, she was calling my job.
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  Speaker 2: She wouldn't state who she was, but she's the only
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  Speaker 2: person that calls me Janey, not Janella, and that's how
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  Speaker 2: I knew who it was. Yes, okay, my boss in
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  Speaker 2: fact had to come and tell me I couldn't receive
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  Speaker 2: any more personal calls and she needed to stop. And
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  Speaker 2: it was to the point where I almost lost my job.
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  Speaker 2: Matthews says, Christine, did you call her job? Christine said,
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  Speaker 2: I did call her work a few times. I was
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  Speaker 2: never asked by anyone to stop calling. I more often
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  Speaker 2: called her personal number. She was no longer responding. The
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  Speaker 2: judge says, if you owed somebody a couple hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 2: do you think it would be acceptable for someone to
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  Speaker 2: call your work anytimes, any a single time, if you
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  Speaker 2: owned somebody a couple hundred dollars. Christine says, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I do. A few times they call my work a
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  Speaker 2: few times, that would be normal. He said, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if most people would agree with you. He's ready
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  Speaker 2: to rule.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, man, that's tough. Well, we're throwing out the countersuit.
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  Speaker 3: Chuck says that I think it's clear that we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: throw out the other one, the emotional distress, so we're
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  Speaker 3: left to the two fifty. I'm gonna give it to her,
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  Speaker 3: even though I think there's a chance that matthis says
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  Speaker 3: that you harassing somebody at work voids your two fifty.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give her the two fifty because it
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  Speaker 3: seems pretty cut and dry that she has owed that money.
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  Speaker 2: He does not throw out the counterclaim for thirty five
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars. What he says is you called her work
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  Speaker 2: multiple times. That is harassment. He grants her the two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars that she's owed, and then he
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  Speaker 2: grants the defendant two hundred and fifty dollars for harassment.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody walks away with nothing, and Mathis is as hard
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  Speaker 2: as he's ever Mathist.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, fair enough, fair enough, Judge Mathis. Let's
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  Speaker 3: head over to America's Court show.
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  Speaker 1: I would love justice.
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  Speaker 3: No foreign concept there, Judge Ross Residing. We got Reggie
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  Speaker 3: Hillson who was suing Taylor Hicks. Not that Taylor Hicks
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  Speaker 3: for five hundred dollars. Another too close to home story
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  Speaker 3: for us Dan. This is Reggie suing his ex business partner.
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  Speaker 3: I got four and they were fifty to fifty partners.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do you remember when we tried to get
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  Speaker 3: on Judge Judy with us. Yeah, that was a fun time.
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  Speaker 1: Well this is we should have gone to America's Court.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun.
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  Speaker 3: So Reggie issuing his ex business partner. There were roommates
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  Speaker 3: for two years, then they went into business. When Reggie
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  Speaker 3: had an idea, Reggie's cousin gave him a box of
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  Speaker 3: collectible toys. His cousin was a big fan of collectible toys.
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  Speaker 3: He was moving, didn't have room for all of them.
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  Speaker 3: He gave him the ones that he didn't need anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Little did he know Taylor was really into collecting and
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  Speaker 3: flipping toys. Okay, cool, Taylor explains, that he once sold
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  Speaker 3: some childhood toys for twenty five hundred dollars and he's
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  Speaker 3: been chasing that high ever since.
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  Speaker 1: That's the good stuff, exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: So they get to talking about this, they start flipping
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  Speaker 3: the toys and it's going well. So they decide to
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  Speaker 3: start a business together, and they're gonna split the business
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  Speaker 3: fifty fifty, got it, got it? Okay, So they both
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  Speaker 3: say they got their fifty percent of the profits for
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  Speaker 3: the first two months.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, easy piece, easy peasy. Month three comes around and Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: Hicks with holds the full amount of money for back
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  Speaker 3: rent Ode.
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  Speaker 2: What.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Reggie does admit to missing a month, but Taylor
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  Speaker 3: agreed to pay him back.
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  Speaker 1: Reggie agreed to pay him. Reggie him back. Reggie agreed
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  Speaker 1: to pay Taylor back. That's right, you said, Taylor agreed
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  Speaker 1: to Oh sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Reggie agreed to play Taylor back two hundred fifty dollars
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  Speaker 3: a month until.
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  Speaker 1: He got paid.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So he uh paid for two months and
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  Speaker 3: then he stopped paying, so he wasn't five hundred dollars okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So Taylor was fed up with this and just instead
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  Speaker 3: of giving him five hundred of the one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 3: that they made month three.
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  Speaker 1: He just kept it, okay, And uh.
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  Speaker 3: So Reggie is paying for is is suing for that
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  Speaker 3: five hundred dollars that he just kept.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: So they're basically Reggie's like, I do owe him money.
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  Speaker 3: I was paying and so I don't know what you
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  Speaker 3: want me to do about this, and Taylor's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: it just it made more sense to me to just
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  Speaker 3: withhold it and then we can, you know, move full word,
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  Speaker 3: because now I've I've got my money back.
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  Speaker 1: I took it, took it out of the business. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly. That's exactly would be.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you owe me five hundred dollars and I
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  Speaker 2: just it was like a fifty to fifty minus five
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars, yes, and I just took it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, you can't do that. That's exactly. That's what
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  Speaker 1: we have contracts and stuff that contracted.
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  Speaker 3: They were because it's like they're basically just selling toys
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  Speaker 3: and they're splitting the profits fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not like, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, they're not salary, they're not paying each other the
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  Speaker 3: same amount, they're not holding anything in the business. It's
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  Speaker 3: just whatever we make, we split it right down the middle.
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  Speaker 3: And so Taylor decided that he's gonna just be but
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  Speaker 3: he was paying.
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  Speaker 1: He was paying, but he missed a month.
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  Speaker 2: And then he So this is tricky because if they're
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  Speaker 2: just taking the cash and split in the fifty to fifty,
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  Speaker 2: but there's no written to green. Yes, Taylor Hicks cannot
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  Speaker 2: just decide how he's getting paid.
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  Speaker 1: The Soul Patrol needs a captain. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta know. You got to give the d back
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  Speaker 1: is five.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred dollars back in order for him to make payments
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  Speaker 2: in the manner that he wants to make them. Judge
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  Speaker 2: Ross is right, rule, Yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: Jude Ross is ready to rule.
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  Speaker 3: Judge Ross says, the gabble has to fall in favor
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  Speaker 3: of the plaintiff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to. That's right, exactly what you thought.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, you have to give him his five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: And then here's what you do, Taylor. You sue him, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: for the amount of money. You should the countersuit. You
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  Speaker 3: didn't do that, but he hasn't. He didn't he's not
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  Speaker 3: paying you, so you can't sue him and get your
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  Speaker 3: money back.
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  Speaker 1: But in this case, you can't just.
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  Speaker 3: Decide as fifty to fifty owners to just withhold money.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do it? Can you do it? And there's
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  Speaker 1: your case's case this week, A quick one this week?
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  Speaker 1: And what can you do?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you do sometimes the way that's the gooy the
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  Speaker 2: gavel crumbs, the way the gavel crumbles is exactly right.
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