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- 0:00Coming up... Is Bigfoot the Antichrist? Bigfoot!
- 0:03You heard it here first! Bigfoot is the Antichrist!
- 0:06Is Bigfoot the Antichrist? Alright, buckle up
- 0:09for this one. This episode's a little different
- 0:12because for the first and probably only time
- 0:16never to be repeated ever again, we've recorded
- 0:18this episode all a little tipsy. We're talking
- 0:22about cryptids. And a whole bunch of other random
- 0:24stuff. Somehow we start talking about giant frogs.
- 0:28And end up talking about Bigfoot being the Antichrist.
- 0:31Stick around. This is a doozy of an episode.
- 0:34We're back on our serious shenanigans. Serious
- 0:39shenanigans. Actually more on there I think.
- 0:42But whatever. Back to serious topics next week.
- 0:44Are you ready kids? Aye aye, Captain. Hey, we
- 0:48started an episode out like this already. Did
- 0:51we? Yeah, well, it's natural, okay? We all grew
- 0:57up on Spongebob. Well, okay, so to make things
- 1:01different, last episode we started off shitposting
- 1:05about an article that triggered us. Maybe today
- 1:10we can talk about a ribbiting new article. That
- 1:15is exciting. And we wanted to leap on the opportunity
- 1:20to discuss it. I'm sorry, I'm still stuck on
- 1:26ribbiting article. Not to leap on. That was pretty
- 1:32witty too, but the ribbiting was really spot
- 1:35on, honestly. Ribbiting. It's probably the best
- 1:40pun you've ever made. What? So, the episode's
- 1:48done. That's it. That's it. Thanks for listening
- 1:52to this episode of the Paranormal Lens, where
- 1:54I successfully made a good pun. And I'm funny.
- 1:58No crickets needed. Only frogs. I didn't say
- 2:01you were funny. I just said that was the best
- 2:04pun you've ever made. What? Are you saying Ben's
- 2:06not no funny person? I'm joking. It's pretty
- 2:10funny to me. Did you hear what I said? No crickets,
- 2:16only frogs. We're talking about the frog man.
- 2:19Ribbit. Only frogs? Ribbit. Frogs. Ben, so if
- 2:24we ever have any cricket sounds in this episode,
- 2:27instead of putting the cricket sounds in, you
- 2:29need to put ribbit sounds in. Like what? Ribbit.
- 2:36Ribbit. That was an interesting frog sound. You
- 2:40want to do that again, Ben? No, I don't. That's
- 2:42not the normal frog sound. No, no, I want to
- 2:44hear that again. Play that on repeat. No. Does
- 2:48Angela want to try to one -up me? I was going
- 2:54to say that kind of sounds like something I would
- 2:56have said. She's rubbing off on me. I used to
- 3:03have a good frog impression. I don't think I
- 3:05could do it anymore if I tried. Try it. Well,
- 3:07what's your current one? Um, not doing it. No,
- 3:16this is like a podcast. Oh, really? I had no
- 3:20idea. What do you mean? What's a podcast? Welcome
- 3:23to our podcast, where we take deep dives looking
- 3:25at various topics through a paranormal lens.
- 3:30We have a bit of contemporary current events.
- 3:34uh current news to discuss today we wanted to
- 3:38talk about cryptids uh but we didn't really know
- 3:41what we wanted to talk about and then i saw an
- 3:43article literally posted today that ohio fucking
- 3:48ohio we're in michigan so we can talk crap about
- 3:52ohio everyone knows our feelings about ohio brie
- 3:55do you like ohio i hate ohio so much We already
- 4:01went over this. We did. I can count the amount
- 4:04of good experiences I've had in Ohio on one finger.
- 4:08We do think Ohio is the most cursed state, even
- 4:12if it's not the most haunted, though, right?
- 4:13You did say that last week on the record. But
- 4:17Ohio wants to be the first state in America to
- 4:25have an official, like, signed into the legislature.
- 4:30approved official, in all regards, official state
- 4:34cryptid. So, this is real. As of today, literally
- 4:40today we're recording this. It's going to come
- 4:42out in a week from now, but still. As of today,
- 4:46State Representative Gene Schmidt is preparing
- 4:48a bill that would have the Loveland Frogman listed
- 4:57and stated in... official government writing
- 5:00in a real bill the loveland frogman will be the
- 5:07first official state cryptid not only of ohio
- 5:11but of all of america california tried doing
- 5:14this like a year ago with bigfoot i don't think
- 5:16they ever succeeded in it i haven't seen an update
- 5:18but the california cryptid should not be bigfoot
- 5:22in fresno nightcrawler Save that for, like, Washington
- 5:27State. Washington has Bigfoot. Right? Yeah. Actually,
- 5:32every continent has some sort of sighting of,
- 5:34like, a Bigfoot creature. Yes. Except for, like,
- 5:38Antarctica and stuff, but... They probably do.
- 5:41They have Yeti. They have Yeti. No, Yeti is Himalaya.
- 5:44Yeah. Which is Asian. Abominable. Abominable?
- 5:49See, that's Northern Hemisphere. Oh. Ben's clueless.
- 5:58I am. Cryptids are not my jam. But I can get
- 6:03behind the frogman. When I hear cryptid, honestly,
- 6:08the first thing I think of is frogman. Because
- 6:10it feels like... Really? Really? Because I love
- 6:14those type of cryptids, where it's like, you
- 6:17think this is just a 12 -year -old on ChatGPT.
- 6:25AI generating, you know, half frog, half man,
- 6:29half dog, half man. Oh, can you generate an image
- 6:34of a dog with a human head? You know, it's like,
- 6:37these all sound stupid and AI generated, but
- 6:40I love them. I love, I can get down with those
- 6:43more than like a big, big foot. I don't know.
- 6:50I like the sound of Frogman, though, to be honest.
- 6:53I kind of want it to be real. Yeah, I think he's
- 6:56a silly, goofy guy. I don't necessarily believe
- 7:01that the Loveland Frogman is real, but I think
- 7:05he's fun. I think he's great. There's nothing
- 7:08wrong with the Loveland Frogman. He's just a
- 7:11guy. He's just a guy. No, according to this article
- 7:15about how the state... representative wants to
- 7:18make the frogman an official state cryptid which
- 7:24we'll unpack that later should states even have
- 7:26official state cryptids but he they went on to
- 7:30say like it sparked tourism there's two two official
- 7:34frogman festivals already but here's the catch
- 7:38they only happen on leap years why because it's
- 7:44a fun leap Frog leap here. Oh, I didn't make
- 7:48that connection. But anyways. Gosh. This is dumb.
- 7:55This is a dumb episode. We're just having fun.
- 8:00Yeah. But anyways, they interviewed a local barber
- 8:03in Loveland. And in his article, the article
- 8:06ends on this quote. The barber said the first
- 8:11modern sighting of a four foot frog. was in 1950.
- 8:16End quote. That's it? That's the whole quote?
- 8:22That's the whole quote. The whole article is
- 8:25about how they want to make the frogman. They
- 8:27don't even explain what the frogman is in the
- 8:30article. They just say they want to make the
- 8:33frogman an official state cryptid. Then the whole
- 8:36article, you're wondering, what is this thing?
- 8:39Why is the government proposing bills to make
- 8:42this thing an official state anything right then
- 8:46the only answer you get is a quote at the end
- 8:49that says the first modern sighting of a four
- 8:52-foot frog was in the 1950s so then you're left
- 8:57wondering wait there's no article is the government
- 9:02really focusing on a 1950s four -foot frog fuck
- 9:07yeah they are is to distract us from all the
- 9:10other terrible shit that's going on I don't mean
- 9:13that in, like, a good way. I don't think you
- 9:17could mean that in any good way, Angela. Well,
- 9:19okay, this is what I meant. This is what I meant.
- 9:22Like, people could say, oh, they're doing this
- 9:26to distract us from, like, all this other stuff
- 9:29and trying to make us feel more happy and having
- 9:31good news, but then it's more of, like, no, actually
- 9:34they're trying to just distract us from... Huh?
- 9:44Wow. But this isn't new. Do you want to go back?
- 9:49I found an article from when, you know, California
- 9:51tried making a Bigfoot and officials say cryptid.
- 9:54This is how. Yeah. When was that? This was last
- 9:57year. So this is like a recent ish. Same time.
- 10:00I'm telling you. Same time. Oh, is it? government
- 10:04distraction isn't is it a cryptid resurgence
- 10:09of of interest who knows um i mean i think it
- 10:13like both are reasonable like explanations because
- 10:17also you know cryptids and like paranormal stuff
- 10:20has had a resurgence in the past few years since
- 10:24covid i don't know if you guys saw that i know
- 10:27i saw it with paranormal society because i was
- 10:30still in school like in college at that point
- 10:33So with the resurgence of paranormal, it opens
- 10:35that other gateway into other paranormal stuff,
- 10:40such as cryptids. Yes. Aliens and all that jazz.
- 10:45That's a good question, too. I know this is a
- 10:49heavily debated thing. Paranormal. Some people
- 10:56are in the camp that paranormal... It's an umbrella
- 10:58term. It means ghosts. It means cryptids. It
- 11:01means aliens. Some people think that those are
- 11:04separate fields entirely and that if you hunt
- 11:07ghosts, why are you hunting Bigfoot? If you hunt
- 11:09Bigfoot, why are you hunting ghosts? You know,
- 11:12that kind of thing. Do you think they should
- 11:13be separate? Do you think paranormal means everything?
- 11:16This podcast, we feel the need to touch on everything,
- 11:19I feel like. They should not be separate. No,
- 11:22I don't think they should be either. Paranormal
- 11:24is an umbrella term. It literally means something
- 11:28that is abnormal. Like an unexplainable. It's
- 11:33paranormal. And so cryptozoology, which actually
- 11:40is a real term. That is a real term in science.
- 11:46And this is what... para means this is coming
- 11:51from a google search it means beside alongside
- 11:53beyond an abnormal that's literally what it says
- 11:57word to word so it it's it's a wide it's a wide
- 12:02term yeah so people who think it's literally
- 12:05just focusing on one little section area i'm
- 12:08sorry but you're stupid i i was gonna i was gonna
- 12:11say i'm sorry offended you but god i'm not sorry
- 12:16god damn people this might offend me actually
- 12:19because i i was in the camp that um paranormal
- 12:22should be split that um ben knock it off dude
- 12:27i this is me i know it's a hot take i know i
- 12:30know we're not even married but i'm about to
- 12:32divorce you over this What? A few episodes ago,
- 12:36we were saying we are a group that do not agree
- 12:39on everything. That's fair. But also at the same
- 12:43time, this should be one thing that we agree
- 12:44on. We should agree on this, Ben. Explain why,
- 12:48first of all. Yeah, explain why. I can't take
- 12:51cryptids seriously, because here's the thing.
- 12:53Ghosts are literally an existential question
- 12:56that is every person, it matters to every person,
- 13:00right? Ghosts, what happens next? Afterlife.
- 13:03There's so much to do with ghosts and the paranormal
- 13:05that have to do and affect your daily life, right?
- 13:09Your life can change in an instant if any question
- 13:12we are asking gets answered tomorrow, right?
- 13:16So on a scale of 1 to 10, how important and serious
- 13:19is ghost hunting? 10 out of 10. How important
- 13:23is discovering that there's this strange ape
- 13:28living in the Himalayas? I'd say one or two out
- 13:32of ten. One or two out of ten. It doesn't change
- 13:34my life at all. I think it could be very, very
- 13:35important. Okay, you know new animals are discovered
- 13:38every day. It can shift people's minds. It makes
- 13:40people think out of the box. New animals are
- 13:42discovered every day and your life doesn't change.
- 13:44It is not an existential conundrum to contemplate
- 13:47the existence of an ape. Well, maybe not for
- 13:49the population, but for some individual people,
- 13:52yes. Yeah, so pause. Pause. There are just as
- 13:56many people who do not care about the existence
- 13:58of ghosts as there are about the people who don't
- 14:02care about the existence of cryptids. With ghosts,
- 14:08yes. Discovering them, finding out if they're
- 14:11real, finding out what's after is interesting
- 14:14to a lot of people. But there are a lot of people
- 14:17who just don't care. You can say the same thing
- 14:20with cryptids. The thing with cryptids as well,
- 14:22like I said, they are... It is a real section
- 14:26of science, just like biology or zoology. It's
- 14:31the step before zoology. It's the study of that
- 14:33animal that we don't know about before we can
- 14:36actually put the scientific facts as to what
- 14:40it is to it. Take the giant squid. That used
- 14:45to be a cryptid. People were terrified to go
- 14:48in the ocean because they thought this kraken
- 14:51was going to come snatch them. And then, lo and
- 14:57behold, giant squids are a real thing, and you
- 15:01really don't need to be afraid of them. So that
- 15:04does impact people. But just as many people care
- 15:07about that, as, like, that discovery, as people
- 15:11caring about ghosts. So, like, I don't understand
- 15:15your argument. What I would say is, they just
- 15:19redid the carpets in our apartment building,
- 15:22and... I'll say I don't care about carpentry
- 15:26at all, but I can acknowledge that there's certain
- 15:29benefits to the people that devote their life
- 15:33to carpets and people care about carpets. I see
- 15:36Bigfoot in the same vein. I see carpets. Okay.
- 15:40Let me finish me. Not if I don't care about ghosts,
- 15:47let's just say I don't care about ghosts. I'm
- 15:49a human. What we're talking about with paranormal
- 15:53investigating and ghost hunting, I don't even
- 15:56believe in ghosts, me. I don't believe in intelligent
- 15:58hauntings. But if tomorrow we were presented
- 16:02with definitive proof that humans turn into ghosts
- 16:06and there is an afterlife, it doesn't matter
- 16:08if I believe or care or not. I will be a ghost.
- 16:12You will be a ghost. Everyone will be a ghost.
- 16:15I will not be a Bigfoot or ever meet a Bigfoot
- 16:17because Bigfoot isn't real. And I can say it
- 16:19all day long. I can say ghosts aren't real and
- 16:21I will never meet a ghost. But one day I might
- 16:23just be one if the answers we are seeking come
- 16:29to fruition. What are you going to say, Angela?
- 16:31Well, okay. This whole... The thing that we're
- 16:34talking about right now, this current topic,
- 16:36is that you think these separate topics should
- 16:40be separated from the paranormal definition.
- 16:44First of all, you didn't really answer that quite
- 16:46yet. Yeah, because I don't think ghost hunters
- 16:49are qualified to talk about Bigfoot, and Bigfoot
- 16:51investigators aren't qualified to talk about
- 16:53ghosts. They all work together. It's all about
- 16:55the unknown, things that live beside us that's
- 16:58abnormal, that no one knows about. But let me
- 17:01finish my thought. what you're saying is like
- 17:03cryptids isn't belonging to the paranormal field
- 17:08they it belongs there so if if pair if cryptids
- 17:16in cryptozoology do not fall under the realm
- 17:20of paranormal what would you put them under no
- 17:23no no that i guess my point isn't that they don't
- 17:26fall under paranormal My point, though, is that
- 17:30they should be separate topics. And I don't think,
- 17:32as ghost hunters, ghost hunters are necessarily
- 17:36qualified to speak on cryptozoology. Just like,
- 17:40if you... That changes everything then, Ben,
- 17:43was what you were saying. But it shouldn't be
- 17:45lumped together. Like, as a ghost hunter, I shouldn't
- 17:47be, you know, forced to be, like, all lovey -dovey
- 17:52with Bigfoot and... believe in Bigfoot or be
- 17:54as knowledgeable about Bigfoot as I am about
- 17:56Go. No one's saying you need to. You totally,
- 17:59totally derailed this conversation. Well, because
- 18:02I think they should be separate. They should
- 18:04be separate. You were saying that cryptids and
- 18:06paranormal should be separate. They should be.
- 18:09That's what you were saying. If I never talk
- 18:11about Bigfoot again in my life, I would be happy.
- 18:13I actually would be. I don't care to talk about
- 18:16Bigfoot. No, here's the thing, Ben. It's like
- 18:18a fun thing. There's different groups within
- 18:20the paranormal. okay there's different groups
- 18:24okay some people focus on one group other people
- 18:27focus on one group one other people focus on
- 18:29specific groups can they intertwine together
- 18:32yes well but i don't think they ever do intertwine
- 18:36they do they definitely do they definitely do
- 18:39like even always not always and there are people
- 18:43who are in specific group i can give you day
- 18:47in the group i can give you one example of how
- 18:51three different categories of paranormal can
- 18:55intertwine we're going to talk about bigfoot
- 18:59bigfoot the cryptid has the potential and has
- 19:04the theories of being one a hide behind or a
- 19:09shadow spirit ghost hunting or two potentially
- 19:15a ufo so that's a third topic so he could be
- 19:20One of these three things. So these topics do
- 19:23intertwine. Do we talk about all of those things?
- 19:26No. We have never talked about UFOs. We don't
- 19:29know anything about UFOs or really care about
- 19:32UFOs. You did the trespass exercise in that mirror
- 19:36at that one park when the tornadoes were happening.
- 19:39That was a specific paranormal thing that we
- 19:42were doing, but you saw aliens. That goes into
- 19:44the alien. concept and group yes yes my does
- 19:50intertwine my question to i want to respond to
- 19:53brie so brie you bring a good point let's say
- 19:56someone comes up to you in an event and they
- 19:59say oh you're a paranormal investigator say yes
- 20:01and they say okay so Have you ever seen a UFO?
- 20:05Have you ever gone UFO hunting? What would your
- 20:07answer be? And how do you acknowledge someone
- 20:09that their first thought when they hear paranormal
- 20:11investigator is UFOs and aliens? I see. Hey,
- 20:16that's a great question. Unfortunately, that's
- 20:17not my realm of expertise, which we're not really
- 20:24an expert in anything. We can't say we're expertises
- 20:27in ghost hunting, but. Okay, so if we're in the
- 20:32camp, I guess we can agree that these are camps
- 20:34of study. Because we don't call ourselves paranormal,
- 20:36like, we can call ourselves paranormal investigators,
- 20:40but typically we say we're ghost hunters. Yeah,
- 20:44so like in science, there's chemistry and physics.
- 20:48It's kind of like the same thing, kind of, right?
- 20:50If like there's a chemist over here and a physicist
- 20:53over there. It's like thinking of it this way.
- 20:56I have a degree, a bachelor's in science. I studied
- 21:01animal science. So someone could ask me a question
- 21:04about biology, chemistry, biochem, physics, which
- 21:11I took all of those classes and be like, hey,
- 21:14tell me about them. And I'm like, I can't. I
- 21:19know things about animals. Yeah, that makes sense.
- 21:23I just, I don't think. Do you think there's a
- 21:26pressure to know in the paranormal just because
- 21:28there's three distinct camps? Absolutely not.
- 21:34Do you think it's fair to the - There could be
- 21:35something more than just three groups. Oh yeah,
- 21:38there's definitely more than just three groups.
- 21:40Do you think it's fair to the alien and UFO people
- 21:44that we haven't tapped into that? We've done
- 21:48one Bigfoot hunt, but we haven't done anything
- 21:50UFO -specific. I feel at this point that since
- 21:53we haven't, are they're not necessarily our target
- 21:57audience and since they're not our target audience
- 22:00i don't think they're going to be disappointed
- 22:01because they don't they've already scrolled past
- 22:06us they don't really care that's fair we are
- 22:09going to be doing a um dog man investigation
- 22:14search yes i do want to go frogman i am excited
- 22:18for that i Can take you frog hunting. I've been
- 22:23a frog. I want frog man, like a four foot. So
- 22:26do you have like a four foot tall, like little,
- 22:28like a net that you, you, how would you approach
- 22:32a frog man? Like what would be your, um, you
- 22:35know what? That's a good question. Cause well,
- 22:39one does, is he, is he an actual frog or does
- 22:44he have some sort of human intelligence? And
- 22:49also too, Frogman is supposedly like a magical
- 22:53being and can shoot fireballs. So how would we
- 22:58deal with that? Like Roman candle fireballs or
- 23:05like actual fireballs? So you play D &D, right?
- 23:10This seems like something veering into that territory.
- 23:14Yeah. Roll for initiative. Let me go back to
- 23:20this article, because I pulled up this article
- 23:21by the debrief .org about when in February, oh,
- 23:26actually on Valentine's Day of 2025, the California
- 23:31state representatives were trying to pass a bill
- 23:33to make Bigfoot their official state cryptid
- 23:37in California. And, quote, According to a draft
- 23:42version of the bill introduced on February 14th,
- 23:452025, Assembly Bill 666 would designate Bigfoot
- 23:49as the Golden State's official state cryptid.
- 23:54uh introduced by california assembly member chris
- 23:57rogers coinciding with the valentine's day holiday
- 24:00the bill's number 666 is appropriate given that
- 24:03this sequence of numbers is famously known as
- 24:06the number of the beast in christianity due to
- 24:08its appearance in uh many versions of chapter
- 24:1113 within the book of revelation in the new testament
- 24:13so i don't understand what that has to do with
- 24:17bigfoot well because on valentine's day last
- 24:21year There was a bill in California, Bill 666,
- 24:26the number of the beast, to make a cryptid an
- 24:31official state monster. Honestly, though, imagine
- 24:38the people freaking out about that. Like, I just,
- 24:44I can just imagine, like, very religious people
- 24:47just going absolutely crazy. Yeah, that's probably
- 24:50one reason it was turned down, too. Like, that
- 24:53was not good for the population of America. Is
- 24:57Ohio more likely to get this pass than California?
- 24:59Well, no, no. Just the fact that the bill number
- 25:02was 666 already decreases its chances in being
- 25:05passed. Good point. Make it 333. Yeah, the angel
- 25:13numbers. Bigfoot is an angel. Someone probably
- 25:19thinks that. Let me look that up. I'm just saying,
- 25:24okay, what happened if Bigfoot was a fallen angel?
- 25:31Never know, never know. We don't know what he
- 25:33is. We never know. There's a Reddit thread, the
- 25:37first thing that comes up, on r slash askachristian.
- 25:43Are Bigfoot Nepulim? Nephilim. Nephilim? I've
- 25:48never heard of that. I'm not a Christian. I've
- 25:50never heard of this term. I don't even know what
- 25:53that term is. It's an angel. Okay. Or it's a
- 25:58term for an angel. Yeah, so this person's father
- 26:03got really into Bigfoot conspiracies, and apparently
- 26:06it's a known thing that... Bigfoot are these
- 26:10Nephilim. They survived the flood. Oh, this person
- 26:14says... Oh, so they're saying they're giants.
- 26:17Yes. But also this person says the Nephilim in
- 26:21ancient Hebrew writings act like bosses. They
- 26:24are kings and generals. They don't hide in forests.
- 26:26They take over society. And another person says,
- 26:29so like Trump? Huh? Another person says, my new
- 26:34favorite question posted here. And then someone
- 26:38replied to that saying, some people actually
- 26:40believe it, though. I'm generally so confused
- 26:43now. I understood the thing about them surviving
- 26:47the flood, but everything after that did not
- 26:49make any sense. It derails. It really derails.
- 26:53Welcome to Reddit. Yeah, the Nephilim were giants,
- 26:59larger than normal humans, having six fingers
- 27:02on each hand and six toes on each foot, otherwise
- 27:04appearing as human except for their giant stature.
- 27:07So this person says, oh, this person goes on
- 27:12to say Trump is not a Nephilim. You'll know one
- 27:15if you see one. I mean, well, here's the thing.
- 27:18There's a big theory that Trump's the Antichrist,
- 27:21and I find that really entertaining. Oh, boy.
- 27:26If we're going down the biblical route, I'm just
- 27:28saying. Is he a Bigfoot? I don't know. Sorry,
- 27:33I just made that connection. I'm sorry. Is Bigfoot
- 27:37the Antichrist or is Trump the Antichrist? That's
- 27:47my new favorite theory. Bigfoot is the Antichrist.
- 27:51Bigfoot. You heard it here first. Bigfoot is
- 27:53the Antichrist. That's not what I meant. I don't
- 27:58think we can make any more poignant statements
- 28:03than that. So thanks for listening to this episode
- 28:05of Paranormal Lens. So any final thoughts on
- 28:08the legislature in Ohio to make Frogman an official
- 28:12state cryptid? I think it would be fun. Should
- 28:15there be state cryptids? Ohio should be the first
- 28:18one. I think it would be a great trend. Is it
- 28:24necessary? No. But also, is having a state animal,
- 28:29state tree, state flower, are those necessary?
- 28:34No. They're just fun. So to have a state cryptid,
- 28:39I think that's great. If there's definitely going
- 28:43to be repeat cryptids, just like there's repeat
- 28:46state animals. Like each state doesn't, not all
- 28:50of them have a unique state animal. So not all
- 28:54of them are going to have unique state cryptid.
- 28:57There's probably going to be a lot of them that
- 28:59have Bigfoot as their state animal or cryptid.
- 29:04But California should not be one of those. They
- 29:08have the Fresno Nightcrawlers. Southern states?
- 29:12Like Florida and Texas and, you know, the other
- 29:17ones, they have their own special kind of Bigfoot,
- 29:21which is the skunk ape. Oh, I forgot about that.
- 29:25But you can smell that one from even up here
- 29:28in Michigan. Most likely. Huh. Okay, so we all
- 29:34agree it's a fun idea. Fun idea. Yes. Make these...
- 29:41official state cryptids. It's all fun and games.
- 29:45It's shenanigans. Yeah. Okay. I think it sounds
- 29:51great. Cool. Any final thoughts on, like, did
- 29:56you expect Ohio to be potentially the first one?
- 29:58No, I'm not surprised. Honestly, yeah, I'm not
- 30:02surprised either. Oh, okay. Like... Ohio people
- 30:07are a different breed, okay? Mm. tipsy thanks
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