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Unsigned518 - Episode 156 - Scott Bravo · Unsigned518

• 0:01
  Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73 he loves punk rock music fighting the 13 cabin in the dazzle jazz rock now on the beat guitar with the short wind radio bass his motherfucking envy scrolling look at motherfucker cuz here he comes Andy Sculling wearing his or his.
• 0:26
  Speaker B: Welcome to unsigned 518. I am here with Scott. Bravo. How's it going, man?
• 0:32
  Speaker C: It is going splendidly.
• 0:34
  Speaker B: And Calvin, I mean, everybody who listens to the show knows Calvin, but Calvin the podcast dog is hanging out, certainly. So we may, we may get some interventions from him.
• 0:46
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 0:46
  Speaker B: Some sniffs or maybe even a bark or two. You never know. Sometimes he does that. Oh, yeah. He wants to get up on the couch.
• 0:53
  Speaker C: Is he allowed? Oh, yeah. Oh, come on, bud. Come on.
• 0:55
  Speaker B: Go ahead, pal.
• 0:57
  Speaker C: Don't be nervous. Come on. He's like, is it a trick?
• 1:01
  Speaker B: I don't know.
• 1:02
  Speaker C: Is this a trick? Come on, buddy.
• 1:04
  Speaker B: There he goes. All right, now that Calvin's settled in, we can get going.
• 1:08
  Speaker C: Animals and babies, believe it or not, love me.
• 1:11
  Speaker B: Yeah. You know, me too. And it's, you know, it's funny, I'm not a parent. Calvin's the first pet that I've ever owned. But my whole life, animals and babies have always. And with the babies, it always made sense because I'm always like, I'm just very close, like on the maturity level with that, you know, like, so they fucking get me.
• 1:29
  Speaker C: They see a team member. Totally.
• 1:30
  Speaker B: They're like, hey, that guy's just like.
• 1:32
  Speaker C: That baby's got a beard.
• 1:34
  Speaker B: Yeah. I bet you he thinks like, poop is funny too, you know, like, you're right, baby, let's hang. But so we just met, you know, five minutes ago or so. But I have, you know, we've been following each other on social for a while and, you know, I got. I'm going to have to say I like your fire.
• 1:52
  Speaker C: Oh, thank you.
• 1:53
  Speaker B: I do want to talk maybe a little later on how you deal with people on social media, because I applaud it. A lot of people say you just ignore the quote unquote haters and you attack them head on and pull some, say, encourage them, pull them out of their dirty little shadows and expose them. And I think that's, to me, that's the way to go.
• 2:17
  Speaker C: All right. Yeah, we could talk about that.
• 2:19
  Speaker B: So we'll talk about that later. But I think what we want to do is, you know, I always tell people to tell the story however they want, but I want to hear your story with music. You know, how it Shapes to where you are, I guess now.
• 2:34
  Speaker C: Okay. So as a musician, I fell in love with music very early. I had a much older babysitter. He drove. You can. You'll picture this guy just by. Just by this. He drove a. His last name, he was Cosimino. He drove an Irox Z. He drove a 1985 white Irox Z.
• 2:53
  Speaker B: Nice.
• 2:53
  Speaker C: So he's exactly who you're picturing. Cut off denim shorts.
• 2:56
  Speaker B: I was just going to say denim definitely in there. Maybe a Def Leppard back patch or something.
• 3:00
  Speaker C: And he would. He would bring all these. He'd come over with a backpack full of WASP and Ozzy Osbourne and all these things and terrified I'd never seen. I grew up in a very, very small town in upstate New York. So I had never seen somebody like Ozzy Osbourne before. And I just got into music, much to my parents dismay. Real rock and roll, heavy metal. Then I got older and I discovered the guitar. I had a friend that had a guitar and I like to plink and plank around on it. And once I started doing guitar, playing guitar and I realized I can do this by myself because I was a weird kid. I didn't have a lot of friends. So once I realized I could do this by myself, there's no standards, there's no. No one telling me I'm doing it wrong or judging me. I just. That's all I did. I took it everywhere, man. I. I used to walk up and down the street playing it. I took it to school with me. I took it everywhere. And it was. All I wanted to do was play guitar from about 15 years old.
• 3:57
  Speaker B: And when you say, you know, you picked it up and. And like the. No one can tell you what to do or no one can tell you. That's like a recurring theme kind of that I. That I hear with people a lot on the show is it's that freedom.
• 4:09
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 4:09
  Speaker B: To just be able to fumble through and whatever and, you know, you don't have to have that like rigid, you know, like learning something. And I do think the fundamentals are good to learn later.
• 4:23
  Speaker C: Right.
• 4:23
  Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, I think the fumbling around is important because think of how many people like, you know, took piano lessons and fucking hated it.
• 4:33
  Speaker C: Right.
• 4:33
  Speaker B: You know, like your girlfriend is raising her hand. Hi, Melissa. Don't she.
• 4:39
  Speaker C: Melissa is here.
• 4:40
  Speaker B: Yeah. We don't pretend that we're like a professional operation ever present, by the way. So if you need to chime in, feel free. Oh, boy. This is not a sanitary Studio. But yeah, they're like people who took lessons first. And you end up fucking hating it because you're like, this is. You know, but if you just had a piano sitting in your room or a keyboard in your room and you're fumbling around with it and you started making your own sounds and then you were like, I'd like to learn more about this. And then you took piano lessons. To me, I think that would be the way to go.
• 5:17
  Speaker C: You know, anything. Was it Aristotle that said, anything learned under compulsion will have no hold on the mind? Yeah, there was the freedom. There was the, this is mine. And everything I do, it comes from me. And then once I learned how to craft songs and started writing my own songs, that is the best feeling in the world when you're like. And it's, you know, people accuse musicians of having egos and. Well, kind of, because we take silence where there is nothing and we make something. And that's kind of hard not to be. Like, I created this magical thing.
• 5:49
  Speaker B: And I mean, ego doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. You know what I mean? An inflated ego or like a narcissistic ego could be.
• 5:56
  Speaker C: But like an unearned ego.
• 5:58
  Speaker B: I wouldn't necessarily want to go see an artist that's like, yeah, it kind of sucks.
• 6:04
  Speaker C: Hope you like it.
• 6:05
  Speaker B: I don't even really like it. You know, like, you know, I'd rather.
• 6:09
  Speaker C: Sorry about this, everybody.
• 6:11
  Speaker B: I'd rather see somebody be like, yeah, I wrote this song. Yeah, it's a great song, you know, check it out.
• 6:16
  Speaker C: And plus what we have, I mean, like we talked, we'll talk later about social media, but when you're, when you're a presence on social media, you have to, we have to deal with. So like very few people are going to go into work on Monday and hear about how they suck or how, you know, someone's gonna come up to their desk and just berate them. We have to deal with a lot of stuff that people don't have to deal with. And I think that sort of help makes you sort of build up this exterior, this self confidence that can appear to be arrogance or ego. Sometimes it is, but it can also just be insecure, self defense, you know, because we do have to put up with a lot.
• 6:50
  Speaker B: Yeah, and that is true. I mean, and you know, I guess we can talk about it now. But like, you know, you take when someone says something shitty or something stupid or, you know, and I mean, it's so easy for people to just write something stupid and like, I always say, like, in my head, like, you know, and we were talking, you know, as you get older and you know, you're not. Not as angry or not as actionable about my anger. Like, I always think, like, would that person say that to me if we were sitting.
• 7:20
  Speaker C: Never at a bar? Of course not, like, no, For a variety of reasons.
• 7:24
  Speaker B: Yeah. And not like, you know, like, oh, look at me. I'm physically intimidating. You would never say that to me in person. But, like, it's true, right? You wouldn't say. You wouldn't just sit down next to some. Or like, if you. You were playing guitar at a bar and someone wouldn't just walk up to you, be like, the. Your nails are pain.
• 7:40
  Speaker C: Right. Nice nails. Right.
• 7:42
  Speaker B: And then like, turn around and go sit back down. Like, nobody would ever fucking do that.
• 7:46
  Speaker C: I did have one guy in Connecticut who kept yelling Tom Petty covers, and I wouldn't do it. And then he sat right in the front row and he'd start. He leaned back and started doing this, like, looking at me in the eyes, making his. So that happens every now and again. But. So I had.
• 8:03
  Speaker B: But respect to that guy for like.
• 8:06
  Speaker C: Yeah, it was funny putting it out.
• 8:08
  Speaker B: There and not being a keyboard warrior.
• 8:11
  Speaker C: I don't mind that you suck. If you want to tell me I suck at the guitar, let's talk about it. How do I suck? Because maybe I do. Maybe I do suck. And you have something to offer me if Tommy Emanuel comes on my live and goes, you suck. Well, let's talk about it, Tommy. But the things I get into are like, the social issues. Like, I am not gonna. I do have causes, and I'm very vocal about my causes. And I do. I was raised. My parents were extremely. The other side of social justice. Anything but. They did tell me to stand up for myself. And I was a boces kid. You guys have boces up here. So I was a special ed kid my whole life, and I watched my classmates get picked on mercilessly. And I never stood for it. I never put up with it. And as an adult, I'm not going to put up with it either. So if I see something horrible, yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to talk about it. You know, it gets me into trouble, but not real trouble.
• 9:04
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:05
  Speaker C: I'm not losing anything, you know, not with that.
• 9:07
  Speaker B: Not with. Not trouble with anybody of any kind of consequence. Just a bunch of trolls. That right?
• 9:12
  Speaker C: Yeah. Well, William Burroughs had a great quote. He said, people can hate me if they want. The question is, are they in a position to do anything about it, right? And then it's like, yeah, hate me all you want. That's, you know, what are you gonna. They hate Taylor Swift. I mean, how do you, how do you hate her? Like, if you're gonna, if you're gonna talk shit about Taylor Swift or Mr. Rogers, what hope do I have of getting on and off the Internet with no, you know, consternation?
• 9:33
  Speaker B: Yeah. And you know what is funny is like I, you know, I'm not like as vocal. Like, you know, I'm certainly like, I have my causes that I'm, that I'm vocal about. But like I, I don't get a lot of people talking too much shit about me. But my instinct now is to just block right immediately. So I don't even, I don't even respond. Just block immediately.
• 9:56
  Speaker C: I have certain lines where if you say something then there's no talking to you. There's some people you can't talk.
• 10:00
  Speaker B: Right, right.
• 10:01
  Speaker C: And there's no.
• 10:02
  Speaker B: Yeah. Cuz like really what you're saying, like your retorts to, to the people, clearly it's done, you know, with full on sarcasm, but the words themselves are offering a solution, you know, like, oh, if you think I suck, like, you know, let's, let's talk.
• 10:20
  Speaker C: Progression. What do I. Yeah.
• 10:22
  Speaker B: So in reality, it would be funny if some of the people were like, yeah, actually, you know, like when you went from that E7 over to that, you know, it'd be much better if you brought the suspended.
• 10:32
  Speaker C: Yeah, great. And that would be. I always ask him, I go, how come I'm friends with the, with the best musicians on the planet. Why aren't they in my comments? Like, it's like, I don't know at some point and I'm painfully immature. There's also that, like I should be to the point at this age where I go, I, I'm not entertaining any of this. But there is, I do have that, that spark of childishness that's like, okay, we could do this. I got, I don't play video games. I'm not reading enough books. I've got too much free time. We can do this. It's okay.
• 11:00
  Speaker B: Yeah, I use. There was a time like I got a. I was on Twitter. I mean, this is five, six years ago or whatever. But you know, there's a lot of issues happening and some that I was very vocal on. Like the, I won't get into it here because I don't need to divide anybody. But like I was being very. And like People were coming at me, and I found that the more vitriol that they were coming at me with, the more justified I felt in my comment. And, like, I began to, like, almost, like, need it. Like, I'd, like, wake up in the morning, and I'd, like, look at my inbox, and, you know, I'd be like, huh, this guy wants me to go kill myself.
• 11:43
  Speaker C: A lot of people try to rape me.
• 11:44
  Speaker B: I must. I must. I must have said something like, you know, pretty good, you know, and, like. And I found that I was, like, kind of liking it. You know what I mean? And then, like, I realized I'm like, dude, I can't. Like, this is a bad road for me to be going down.
• 11:58
  Speaker C: It'll make you physically sick.
• 11:59
  Speaker B: Yeah. And then so I just, like, deleted the whole app, and I was just like, I'm done. Oh, my God. Like. Cause I was literally like, hey, check it out. This guy told me to eat a shot.
• 12:09
  Speaker C: Run. I used to read the comments to my kids on the bus. I'd read the comments, and I'd have a response, and I'd put it up, and I'd let my kids respond to me, like, with grammar stuff. And I'd be like, hey, guys, what's the grammatically correct way to say this? And then I would go, what grade did you learn that in? And they would go first, and I would go.
• 12:28
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Because, you know. And again, the right thing to do is to just be silent, but it's. It's not. That's the right thing to do.
• 12:36
  Speaker C: And it's so clowned.
• 12:37
  Speaker B: Like, why do they get to be loud and obnoxious and, like, you know, we have to, like, you know, play by the rules and shit.
• 12:45
  Speaker C: Fuck that. Or they go, why do you hate so? And I go, I don't. I just. You're just silly. I don't hate you. I just think you're goofy. Like, it's. It's like, you don't hate a clown. If a clown runs out of the parade and throws candy at you, you don't go, I hate that clown. You go, that's really silly. That's really goofy.
• 12:59
  Speaker B: You know? But I'll take the candy clown. Thank you.
• 13:01
  Speaker C: I'll take the engagement. Right.
• 13:02
  Speaker B: Thank you for that.
• 13:03
  Speaker C: Keep it coming.
• 13:04
  Speaker B: I'll eat Tootsie Rolls off Hot Pavement any day.
• 13:09
  Speaker C: Yeah, another great. Another great band name or possibly song title. This is how song titles happen for me. So careful. You might end up on an album.
• 13:16
  Speaker B: All right. Tootsie Rolls on Hot Pavement, Tootsie Rolls on Hot Pavement. I love it. So you know, we've. We got off topic as. As I always, always do. But we want to listen to some music.
• 13:30
  Speaker C: Great.
• 13:30
  Speaker B: So what is the first song that you're going to play for us?
• 13:34
  Speaker C: This song is called A Stealthy Mess and it was written about just like there's. One of my favorite guitar players is Pierre Bensouzanne and he doesn't really seem to care all that much about time or maybe I just can't count. Both options are viable and I wanted to write a song that was very Pierre esque. So I wrote A Stealthy Mess which is sort of in and out of time and it's got a really cool solo in it and. Yeah.
• 14:01
  Speaker B: All right, cool. Well, let's check out A Stealthy Mess Scott Bravo and then we'll be right back.
• 14:47
  Speaker A: Sa.
• 17:11
  Speaker B: That was A Stealthy Mess, Scott Bravo. And you know, Scott, you were saying while we were listening to the song that you just recently moved to the area. So I guess tell it, tell us a little bit about where you came from and what you got going on now.
• 17:27
  Speaker C: So I. On Friday I moved up, I moved up here. It's pretty recent. I came from New York City. Ish.
• 17:35
  Speaker B: Heard of it?
• 17:37
  Speaker C: You're familiar.
• 17:37
  Speaker B: I've heard of it.
• 17:38
  Speaker C: Oh good, you've heard tale told.
• 17:40
  Speaker B: I have heard that.
• 17:41
  Speaker C: And I moved up here with Melissa. We've had a relationship for quite some time and I just decided now's the time. Now's the time to come up back to upstate. I grew up up here. I never in a million years envisioned ending up back in upstate. But you know, life, you know how life goes.
• 18:00
  Speaker B: I do. And have you found like, you know, you've coming from this area now coming back and I guess it's probably pretty new since you know, said it was just, just Friday and we're recording on Sunday. So we're talking like 48 hours or so. But like I guess we'll check in in a couple months. But I want to see how you feel about the scene here with like, you know, once you start gigging and getting to in with all the bands and seeing how everybody works together.
• 18:29
  Speaker C: Yes.
• 18:29
  Speaker B: Is that like something that you saw a lot down where you were as well?
• 18:35
  Speaker C: No.
• 18:35
  Speaker B: No.
• 18:36
  Speaker C: Is there a more emphatic word than no? Absolutely not.
• 18:39
  Speaker B: Fuck no.
• 18:39
  Speaker C: No. Fuck no. New York City. If anyone is considering moving to New York City and you haven't made it yet, quote unquote, made it, fucking don't. That is not where you move to make it. That is where you move once you have made it. Because New York City, it's not a music town, it's a fashion town. So the venues don't care about you, the crowds don't care about you. Venues will say stuff like, all right, great, we'll book you on Wednesday at 11pm and you have to bring 20 people and we're taking the first 15.
• 19:10
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker C: And they don't care about any. They care about their money. That's what they care about. And I found up here it's the exact opposite. In most, most venues I've been dealing with, they offered me money right off the bat. Didn't ask me how many people you're going to draw, how many people are going to bring. The bands tend to be much less competitive. It appears this so far, it is.
• 19:33
  Speaker B: It's true.
• 19:34
  Speaker C: There's more of a scene. There's no scene down there. There was a punk hardcore scene in like Queens and Brooklyn, but there's no real scene, especially for me being an instrumental acoustic guitarist. So I'm hoping to just come up here and, you know, blow everybody's socks off and try to make a. I find that I've done better in smaller towns. New York City was not good for my career.
• 19:58
  Speaker B: Yeah. And it's funny that you say that, you know, with having to bring in draw because, like, I got an email like several months ago and like, it still just perplexes me, but it was from a venue down in the city and like, my band is like a very small local band. Like, we're not a regional band. We're not like big. We're, you know, we play Albany, Saratoga, like right in here. So first of all was like, how the fuck did you even find out about me?
• 20:24
  Speaker C: Right?
• 20:24
  Speaker B: But then they sent us an email and we're like, you know, hey, we want you to come down and play here. And it was the longest list of whatever you qualifications that I've ever seen in my life.
• 20:38
  Speaker C: Right?
• 20:39
  Speaker B: And again, you, like, you said it was like a Wednesday at like, you know, 7:00 and it was like, you have to guarantee us 50 people and.
• 20:48
  Speaker C: It'S next Wednesday, right?
• 20:50
  Speaker B: And like, and it was just like. I was like, I can't, like, I can't guarantee you. Like, I don't fucking know anybody down there. Like, why are you like. It was just wild that it, like, it's. I thought it was like an anomaly. No, I was like, that's crazy.
• 21:05
  Speaker C: Like, that's. I did a show and they I didn't sell any tickets. I didn't know it was my job. I'm not a promoter.
• 21:11
  Speaker B: Right.
• 21:12
  Speaker C: So I showed up and they were like, oh, yeah, it's you. You owe us $250. And I was like, what? And they were like, yeah, the deal was you had to sell this many tickets. I go, it's not my job to sell tickets. You're the venue. Do you think John Mayer goes out? Not to compare myself to John Mayer, but you think he's out on the corner selling tickets.
• 21:28
  Speaker B: And it's also like, if you have a promoter, like, that's what the promoter is.
• 21:32
  Speaker C: That's sort of their job.
• 21:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that promoter promotes. Promotes the show.
• 21:36
  Speaker C: Most venues now, they don't have. They don't have promoters, they don't have bookers. It's the manager, it's the owner cooking the food and sending the emails. And I don't know how anyone, if anyone out there, you're contemplating getting into the music business for the business part of it. Don't. I do. Like the fact, or what I perceive to be the fact that this is gonna create musicians who want to be musicians who will sleep in their car live on Ramen, go through the mill, right? Do the shit to be. Because for the past 20 years, it's been anybody can afford instruments, anybody can get gigs. And it sort of created havoc out there for those of us that are trying to make a living or trying to make a name for ourselves doing this. And I think to watch it go back to where the, the, the part timers are going to go, fuck this, right? I'm not. I'm not doing it. That's kind of a good thing. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. I might change my mind in an hour.
• 22:31
  Speaker B: No, I mean, it makes sense, you know, because I'm. Like you said in that, like, you know, we're just small time and we don't even play, like, the big venues around here, you know, like. But, like, I think you almost need that. Like you said, you know, the. The struggle.
• 22:47
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker B: The people that are willing to go through it. Because, like, that's why we only. Because I'm not fucking willing to go through anything or just do it for fun.
• 22:55
  Speaker C: I mean, right.
• 22:55
  Speaker B: I'm doing it for fun. And it's hilariously fun. And like, when we play gigs, like, we don't even really care what we get for money.
• 23:02
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:03
  Speaker B: Like, we get, you know, we'll get some money, we'll be like, cool, but, like, we're doing it because it's, like, super fun, but, like, we're also not competing.
• 23:12
  Speaker C: Right.
• 23:12
  Speaker B: Right. So, like, to have people competing that are just treating it for fun has gotta be shitty, you know?
• 23:19
  Speaker C: Yeah. And I've never even. In my genre, which is acoustic instrumental finger style, guys don't wanna share information. I've never been one of those guys. You wanna know the booker's name to whatever venue you can have it. You wanna know the. And the guys in the genre, you ask them, hey, how did you do this? And they go, I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? Did you not play on that stage? You have no idea.
• 23:38
  Speaker B: Right?
• 23:39
  Speaker C: I don't. I don't think we're going to run into that up here. I think up here is going to be much more open.
• 23:46
  Speaker B: Oh, it is 100%. And like, you know, even with, you know, I know a lot of the bands and I know bands that are, you know, regional, that play outside of here and come back here. And it is true like this. It's. I think it's like, special that, like, you had. And you have, you know, rappers and punk rockers and folk singers and, you know, indie bands and singer songwriters that all know each other.
• 24:10
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker B: And all, like, help each other out. Like, and they're complimentary. Yeah. And they're not in the same genre at all.
• 24:16
  Speaker C: Right.
• 24:16
  Speaker B: But they help each other out and like, you know, repost each other shit on Instagram. Just simple things that say, hey, we. We like each other and we actually really like each other.
• 24:25
  Speaker C: You know, it's not. It's not hard.
• 24:26
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 24:27
  Speaker C: I did an open mic at. What was it, 518 craft, and the musicians in the room were so complimentary to the point where I was embarrassed. And it was like, I don't want these cowboys. But as opposed to in New York, when you could do. I mean, I've done on stage things I think are incredible. And look out at the crowd and they're like, talking to each other.
• 24:46
  Speaker B: Right. Nobody's paying attention.
• 24:47
  Speaker C: It's like, what do I have to do? What do you want me to do up here? I don't know. So I'm very excited about being up here for. Not only that, but obviously Melissa here. And I never thought I would say I'm excited to be back living in upstate New York, but I'm going to make the most of it.
• 25:02
  Speaker B: I'm.
• 25:03
  Speaker C: I'm. Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker B: And music wise, it'll be good because, you know, and like you said how those musicians in the crowd, like, you Will see that.
• 25:11
  Speaker C: It'll be nice.
• 25:11
  Speaker B: You know, at, like, almost every show that I go to, you know, I'm like, oh, there's so and so from that band. There's so and so from that band. There's so and so there. So, you know, people show up and.
• 25:20
  Speaker C: Help each other out and not being annoyed. Everyone thinks New York City. The hardest part is the expensive part. That's the easy part. You're going to make enough money to live there. The hard part is, are you willing to be annoyed every fucking minute of every day if you're not? New York City is not for you.
• 25:34
  Speaker B: I'm not.
• 25:35
  Speaker C: And it was not for me.
• 25:36
  Speaker B: So, I mean, like you said when you pulled into my driveway, you're like, wow, we are. This is country. Yeah. I was like, yes, we are. Like, right where I like it.
• 25:43
  Speaker C: You don't know what parking, how good you have with parking lots.
• 25:46
  Speaker B: Oh, I do know how you go.
• 25:47
  Speaker C: To the grocery store down there and you're like, and.
• 25:49
  Speaker B: And you can't see it because, you know, the driveway is iced over because we got an ice storm and I'm lazy but leisurely.
• 25:55
  Speaker C: You're leisurely?
• 25:56
  Speaker B: Leisurely, yes. Where you guys parked? We actually have painted parking lines and everything, so it's like, it's nice. We could, like, seven cars in my driveway. It's amazing. Yeah. And we don't have to worry about park, like going to the grocery store. Don't have to worry about parking.
• 26:11
  Speaker C: You don't have. It doesn't take an hour and a half to go four miles.
• 26:13
  Speaker B: Yeah. And plus, like, for me, like, I grew up in Vermont. I grew up in the country. Like, I just can't deal with the fact of having that many people around me.
• 26:21
  Speaker C: Right.
• 26:22
  Speaker B: Like, I don't even care if, like, I'm in my apartment, just knowing that there's. There's people above me, below me, to the left, to the right, you know, there's people everywhere. I'm like, no, I never thought.
• 26:32
  Speaker C: I never thought of that. You're surrounded by people.
• 26:33
  Speaker B: I'm surrounded by people. I just don't. I don't like where we are sitting right here. Like, the closest human being to us is, you know, however many hundreds of yards away. And that's fine. There's nobody above us. There's nobody.
• 26:46
  Speaker C: Want to put a thousand people in this room and try to function.
• 26:48
  Speaker B: No, I do not. I don't want to build it upwards. Yeah, No, I like it out here. You know, I like the fact that I can look out my Window. And there's. We live next door to a horse farm, so it's like. Ah, there's. Calvin doesn't like it. Calvin hates. Kevin hates the or. He's scared of the horses.
• 27:04
  Speaker C: He's like, horses.
• 27:05
  Speaker B: No, he gets mad at him whenever. Like, whenever he sees him.
• 27:10
  Speaker C: He's like, why did you wake me up?
• 27:11
  Speaker B: He's like, yeah, it's true. Those horses.
• 27:13
  Speaker C: You woke me up to talk about horses? You son of a. I'm sleeping over here.
• 27:18
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 27:19
  Speaker C: Adorable.
• 27:20
  Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's Calvin. Well, I think we should probably hear another song. Okay, so what were we gonna hear this time?
• 27:28
  Speaker C: We're gonna hear this song has some cello in it.
• 27:31
  Speaker B: Nice.
• 27:31
  Speaker C: This song is called the Syracuse Problem, and it's both a math problem and my nickname in high school. No, it wasn't my nickname in high school, but it is, in fact, a math problem, and I'm from Syracuse, so there you go.
• 27:45
  Speaker B: All right, cool. Well, let's hear the Syracuse problem. Scott, Bravo. And they'll be right back to wrap it.
• 27:54
  Speaker A: It.
• 30:16
  Speaker B: All right, so that was a Syracuse problem. Scott. Bravo. And Scott, I want to thank you so much for taking time out of your day to come up and do this with me. Before we go, like I do with all my guests, I want to give you a chance to say what I refer to you as your gratitudes.
• 30:30
  Speaker C: All right, well, thank you for having me up here to do this. This is fantastic. Most. I'm. I'm grateful for literally, you know, a lot of people make it about. Make this business about popularity, and I'm grateful for every single person that likes my music. It's. I never in my life thought, being a kid sitting on my bed playing guitar, that anybody would listen to my music. And apparently 116 countries, people in those countries like my music. And that's so mind blowing to me. So above everything else, I'm grateful for people that like music in general and my music specifically, and also to Melissa, because Melissa has been a force, a real force in my life for a while now. So I'm grateful to her for that. Seeing through all the mishegoss.
• 31:22
  Speaker B: Yeah. All right, so he is Scott Bravo. I am Andy scullin. This is unsigned 518. See you on the road. Unsigned 518 is produced and hosted by me, Andy Scullin. New episodes are available every week wherever you stream podcasts. If you'd like to help support the show, please like and subscribe wherever you are listening. Or you could buy me a coffee@buymeacoffee.com unsigned 518 if you would like to advertise on the show, send me an email at unsigned518mail.com and to be a guest on the show, reach out to me through Instagram at unsigned 518. Take care of one another and I'll see you next week.
• 32:08
  Speaker C: And sculling.