Latest / Wildlands Podcast — National Parks, Public Lands & Survival / #010 - Yellowstone, Part 2: The Visit | Lamar Valley, Grand Prismatic & the Geyser Basins
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- 0:10I want to tell you what Lamar Valley looks like
- 0:12at first light in early June. You have driven
- 0:15the northeast entrance road in the dark, which
- 0:17means you have driven past the bison you could
- 0:19not see but could smell, past the pullouts where
- 0:22the wolf watchers have already been set up with
- 0:24their spotting scopes for an hour, and you have
- 0:26reached a wide, open valley. just as the sky
- 0:30starts to go pale in the east. The Lamar River
- 0:33runs through the middle of it. The hills roll
- 0:35away in every direction. And as the light comes
- 0:37up, the valley floor reveals itself, and it is
- 0:40covered in bison. Not a handful. Not a small
- 0:43herd. Hundreds of them. Spread across the valley
- 0:48from one edge of your vision to the other, moving
- 0:50slowly, the steam from their breath mixing with
- 0:53the morning air. I have been in a lot of remarkable
- 0:56places. That morning in Lamar Valley is one of
- 1:01the ones I carry. Yellowstone is a park that
- 1:04rewards people who understand what they are looking
- 1:06at. If you come in, hit Old Faithful, drive the
- 1:10Grand Loop, and leave, you will have had a fine
- 1:12time. But the deeper version of this park, the
- 1:15one that people come back to again and again,
- 1:18requires knowing where to go, when to be there,
- 1:21and what you are actually seeing when you arrive.
- 1:24That is what this episode is about. This is Wildlands.
- 1:30I'm Sean. Know the land before you reach it.
- 1:34Yellowstone Part 2. The Visit. Start with scale,
- 1:38because Yellowstone will humiliate you if you
- 1:41do not respect it. The park covers 2 .5 million
- 1:45acres. That is bigger than Rhode Island and Delaware
- 1:48combined. The Grand Loop Road, the figure -eight
- 1:51highway that connects the main regions, is 142
- 1:54miles. At the park's 45 -mile -per -hour speed
- 1:57limit, which bison jams will make theoretical.
- 2:01A complete circuit with stops takes six to eight
- 2:04hours minimum. Most visitors budget half that.
- 2:07Most visitors are wrong. There are five entrances,
- 2:13north at Gardner, Montana, northeast near Silvergate
- 2:16and Cook City, east near Cody, Wyoming, south
- 2:20connecting to Grand Teton, and west at West Yellowstone,
- 2:23Montana. Your entry point shapes your entire
- 2:26trip. The northeast entrance puts you directly
- 2:29into Lamar Valley, the best wildlife corridor
- 2:31in the park, and arguably in the lower 48. The
- 2:35west and north entrances give you fastest access
- 2:37to the thermal features and mammoth hot springs.
- 2:40The south entrance is the route from Jackson
- 2:42Hole and Grand Teton. And if you are combining
- 2:45those parks on one trip, which you should seriously
- 2:48consider, this is your natural approach. A few
- 2:53things true of all entrances in 2026. No timed
- 2:57entry reservation is required. Unlike some other
- 3:00parks that have moved to advanced vehicle reservations,
- 3:03Yellowstone runs on a standard entrance pass
- 3:05system. A seven -day vehicle pass runs $35 and
- 3:09covers both Yellowstone and Grand Teton. If you
- 3:13hold an America the Beautiful annual pass, it
- 3:15gets you in. What there is no pass for is the
- 3:18bridge construction happening in 2026 at the
- 3:21north entrance and along the northeast entrance
- 3:23road near Tower Junction. Delays of up to 30
- 3:27minutes are possible, so build that into your
- 3:30timeline. Check the park's current road status
- 3:32before you drive in, and download the NPS Yellowstone
- 3:36app and your maps before you enter, because cell
- 3:38service inside the park is essentially non -existent
- 3:41outside of developed areas like Mammoth, Canyon
- 3:44Village, and Old Faithful. Your phone becomes
- 3:47a compass and a map. Plan accordingly. Let's
- 3:52start. with what most people come to Yellowstone
- 3:55for, the thermal features. The upper geyser basin
- 3:59around Old Faithful is the most concentrated
- 4:02collection of geysers on Earth. More than 400
- 4:05geysers in a relatively small area, connected
- 4:08by a boardwalk system that lets you walk among
- 4:11them without destroying the fragile ground. Old
- 4:14Faithful itself erupts roughly every 60 to 90
- 4:17minutes, shooting up to 180 feet into the air
- 4:20for 1 to 5 minutes. The next predicted eruption
- 4:23time is posted at the Old Faithful Visitor Education
- 4:26Center, and on the NPS app, check it before you
- 4:29walk over so you are not standing there for an
- 4:32hour waiting. But I want to say something about
- 4:35Old Faithful that the visitor count does not
- 4:37always prepare you for. Four to five million
- 4:40people come through this park every year, and
- 4:43a large percentage of them have stood on that
- 4:45boardwalk and watched that geyser go. That is
- 4:47a lot of people who have had that experience,
- 4:49and it is still. extraordinary. The ground shakes
- 4:53slightly before it erupts. The water column climbs
- 4:56above everything around it. Steam billows hundreds
- 4:59of feet upward. For a few minutes, you are watching
- 5:02the plumbing of a supervolcano express itself,
- 5:05on schedule, in front of you. I do not think
- 5:10that ever stops being remarkable, no matter how
- 5:12many times you see it. Beyond Old Faithful, the
- 5:16Upper Geyser Basin Boardwalk takes you past Castle
- 5:19Geyser, Grand Geyser, morning glory pool and
- 5:22dozens of others grand geyser is the world's
- 5:25tallest predictable geyser it erupts every 7
- 5:28to 15 hours which means you may not time it right
- 5:32but when you do it erupts in a series of bursts
- 5:35reaching up to 200 feet give yourself two to
- 5:39three hours in the upper geyser basin if you
- 5:42want to actually see it rather than just pass
- 5:44through it the midway geyser basin a few miles
- 5:48north of old faithful is where Grand Prismatic
- 5:51Spring is. Now here is the thing about Grand
- 5:54Prismatic that most people get wrong. The boardwalk
- 5:57at Midway Geyser Basin gives you a ground level
- 6:00view of the spring. You walk alongside it, see
- 6:03the steam rising, see the vivid colors from the
- 6:05bank. That is impressive. But it is not the view
- 6:09you have seen in every photograph of Yellowstone.
- 6:12That view, the aerial perspective, showing the
- 6:15full rings of color from electric blue at the
- 6:18center outward, through green, yellow, orange,
- 6:21and red, requires the Grand Prismatic Overlook
- 6:24Trail. It is a mile and a half round trip from
- 6:27the Ferry Falls trailhead, with minimal elevation
- 6:29gain, and it takes you up to a ridge with a clear
- 6:32view down over the spring. Go there. The boardwalk
- 6:36alone does not do it justice. Go at sunrise or
- 6:39after five in the evening midday. Light is flat,
- 6:42and the parking at the trailhead is brutal. Between
- 6:46Old Faithful and Norris, The fountain paint pot
- 6:49area in the lower geyser basin is worth a stop
- 6:52that most itineraries skip. It has all four types
- 6:55of geothermal features in one short loop, a geyser,
- 6:58a hot spring, a fumarole, and a mud pot, and
- 7:01the mud pots are something that photographs genuinely
- 7:03do not prepare you for. They are gray, bubbling
- 7:06craters of acidic mud, churning slowly, making
- 7:10sounds that are deeply and specifically wrong.
- 7:13You will hear them before you see them. and you
- 7:15will not quite believe what you are looking at
- 7:17when you do. Black Sand Basin, just northwest
- 7:21of Old Faithful, is a short walk with some of
- 7:25the most colorful and overlooked hot springs
- 7:27in the park. Emerald Pool, Opalescent Pool, Sunset
- 7:33Lake, in a setting that is strangely quiet given
- 7:36how close it sits to the most visited spot in
- 7:39the park. Norris Geyser Basin is the hottest
- 7:42and most dynamic geothermal area in the park,
- 7:45and it does not get the attention it deserves
- 7:47because most people have already spent their
- 7:49time at Old Faithful. Steamboat Geyser sits here,
- 7:53the world's tallest active geyser. It erupts
- 7:57irregularly, sometimes years apart, sometimes
- 8:00weeks, but when it goes, it reaches 300 to 400
- 8:04feet. Scientists monitor it closely. You are
- 8:07not likely to catch a major eruption. but the
- 8:10basin itself is worth the stop a landscape of
- 8:13boiling springs, fumaroles, and constantly changing
- 8:16features that makes Old Faithful feel, by comparison,
- 8:20almost domestic. Norris changes. New features
- 8:23appear. Old ones quiet down. The ground is thin
- 8:27and unpredictable in a way that is viscerally
- 8:29apparent when you are standing on it. Mammoth
- 8:32Hot Springs, near the north entrance, is the
- 8:34park's travertine terrace system, fundamentally
- 8:36different from the silica -based features in
- 8:39the rest of the park. Here, the hot water carries
- 8:42dissolved calcium carbonate, and as it flows
- 8:45over the surface, it deposits white and cream
- 8:48terraces that build and shift constantly. Pallet
- 8:51Spring, Minerva Terrace, Canary Spring, they
- 8:54are alive, changing year to year. What was active
- 8:57when someone visited 10 years ago may be dry
- 8:59now. and a new feature may be flowing where nothing
- 9:03was before. The town of Mammoth sits right there,
- 9:07with gas, food, a visitor center, and the historic
- 9:11Fort Yellowstone buildings, a working army post
- 9:14from the 1880s that now houses park administration.
- 9:18It is worth walking around. Now the part of this
- 9:22park that separates the people who have been
- 9:25here from the people who came and left thinking
- 9:27they had seen it. Lamar Valley is in the northeast
- 9:30corner of the park, accessible from the northeast
- 9:33entrance. It is called America's Serengeti, and
- 9:36that description is accurate in a way most national
- 9:39park superlatives are not. The valley is wide
- 9:42and open, the Lamar River running through sage
- 9:45-covered bottomland with forested hills rising
- 9:47on both sides. And through that valley moves
- 9:50the full cast of Yellowstone's megafauna bison
- 9:53in herds that can number in the hundreds, elk,
- 9:56pronghorn, grizzly bears working the slopes,
- 10:00black bears in the tree lines, and wolves. The
- 10:05wolves are the reason the serious wildlife watchers
- 10:08come to Lamar at four in the morning. They set
- 10:11up on the pullouts with spotting scopes and wait.
- 10:13I have been one of those people. The Junction
- 10:17Butte Pack runs the northern range. The Wapiti
- 10:20Lake Pack covers the central plateau. Seeing
- 10:23wolves in the wild, through a scope, moving through
- 10:26an open valley as the light comes up, it is a
- 10:28different experience from anything else I have
- 10:30done outdoors. There is something about watching
- 10:33a predator work a landscape it genuinely belongs
- 10:36to that resets your sense of what wild means.
- 10:40The practical reality is that wolves are not
- 10:43guaranteed, and the serious watchers will tell
- 10:46you that directly. They are wild animals moving
- 10:48through a large landscape, and some days the
- 10:50valley is empty of them in the early morning
- 10:52and full of them by nine. Some days you see nothing.
- 10:56Some days you stand on a pullout and watch a
- 10:59pack of seven work an elk herd for 45 minutes.
- 11:01The wolf watchers who are there every morning
- 11:04with their scopes and their radio scanners have
- 11:06figured out the odds, and the odds say, get there
- 11:09at first light, be patient, and stay longer than
- 11:12you plan to. But Lamar Valley. The reward scales
- 11:40with the patience. Hayden Valley. between Canyon
- 11:45Village and Yellowstone Lake is the other Great
- 11:48Wildlife Corridor, less accessible to people
- 11:51coming from the northeast entrance, but closer
- 11:53to the center of the park and equally productive.
- 11:56The Yellowstone River runs through it, and the
- 11:58open meadows on either side are prime grizzly
- 12:01habitat, prime bison habitat, and in fall, absolutely
- 12:05prime elk rut territory. The elk rut, in September,
- 12:09bulls bugling across the valley, challenging
- 12:12each other. The whole drama of it playing out
- 12:14in the open is one of the great wildlife spectacles
- 12:17in North America. Between Hayden Valley and the
- 12:21north, the Yellowstone River drops into a canyon
- 12:24that almost nobody who has not been there is
- 12:27fully prepared for. The Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone
- 12:30is about 20 miles long, up to 1 ,200 feet deep,
- 12:33and colored that extraordinary yellow and orange,
- 12:37and rust the rhyolite rock stained by centuries
- 12:40of hydrothermal chemistry. The lower falls are
- 12:44308 feet tall, nearly twice the height of Niagara.
- 12:49Artist Point, on the south rim, gives you the
- 12:52view that Thomas Moran painted in 1872, the one
- 12:56hung in Congress that convinced senators this
- 12:59place was real. It is still that good. It is
- 13:03the kind of view that makes you understand why
- 13:06Moran needed a canvas that was 12 feet wide.
- 13:10Brink of the lower falls. is a different experience
- 13:13entirely. You hike down steeply down, several
- 13:17hundred feet to a platform at the lip of the
- 13:19falls, where the entire volume of the Yellowstone
- 13:21River goes over the edge 20 feet in front of
- 13:24you. The roar is physical, the mist soaks you.
- 13:28I have been to a lot of waterfalls, and the brink
- 13:31is the only one where I genuinely felt the force
- 13:33of the water in my chest. It earns the hike down,
- 13:36and the harder hike back up. Yellowstone is underused
- 13:42as a hiking destination because so many people
- 13:44spend all their time in the car, which is understandable
- 13:47given the scale and the thermal features. But
- 13:50getting off the road changes the experience completely.
- 13:53Mount Washburn is the marquee hike, 6 miles round
- 13:56trip, 1400 feet of elevation gain, and a summit
- 14:00that puts you above the treeline with a 360 degree
- 14:03view of the entire park. On a clear day, you
- 14:06can see the Tetons to the south. The fire lookout
- 14:09on top has public restrooms and an observation
- 14:11deck, which is either reassuring or slightly
- 14:14anticlimactic depending on your temperament.
- 14:16She -Peter Cliff is a short walk from the road
- 14:19near Mammoth and shows you the distinctive columnar
- 14:22basalt hexagonal columns of cooled lava that
- 14:25look almost engineered. Mystic Falls is a solid,
- 14:28moderately difficult hike from the Biscuit Basin
- 14:30area, rewarding and far less crowded than anything
- 14:33near Old Faithful. Fairy Falls is worth its own
- 14:38mention. Two and a half miles round trip from
- 14:41the Fairy Falls trailhead, the same one used
- 14:43to reach the Grand Prismatic Overlook. You can
- 14:45combine them on one trip. Go for the overlook
- 14:48first, continue to Fairy Falls, and come back
- 14:52the way you came. The falls drop nearly 200 feet
- 14:55into a pool that catches the afternoon light
- 14:58in a way that makes you reach for a camera and
- 15:00then put it away because it is not going to look
- 15:02like this on a screen. The trail passes through
- 15:05forest, recovering from the 1 ,988 fires. The
- 15:10mosaic of burned standing timber and new growth
- 15:13tells a story about the park's relationship with
- 15:16fire that is worth understanding. That fire burned
- 15:19more than a third of the park. Yellowstone recovered.
- 15:23It is still recovering. The landscape you walk
- 15:26through is the recovery. For people willing to
- 15:29get further from the road, Yellowstone's backcountry
- 15:31is one of the least used and most rewarding in
- 15:34the national park system. The park has nearly
- 15:371 ,000 miles of trails and 90 -plus designated
- 15:40backcountry campsites. A backcountry permit is
- 15:43required for overnight trips and available through
- 15:46recreation .gov or at any visitor center. The
- 15:50Thorofar region in the southeast corner of the
- 15:52park is the most remote area in the lower 48
- 15:55states. You can get farther from a road there
- 15:58than anywhere else in the contiguous United States.
- 16:01It requires serious planning and several days.
- 16:04But for people who want true wilderness, it exists
- 16:07here inside a national park that most people
- 16:10experience entirely from a car. The Shoshone
- 16:13Lake area, Black Canyon of the Yellowstone, the
- 16:16Beckler River region in the southwest corner,
- 16:19they require effort and they reward it. One rule
- 16:23that covers everything. Stay on the boardwalks
- 16:26in thermal areas. Not a preference, not a suggestion.
- 16:30People have broken through the thin crust in
- 16:33thermal areas and fallen into scalding water.
- 16:36The ground looks solid and is not. The boardwalks
- 16:40exist because the alternative is a genuine safety
- 16:44hazard. And the number of people who have been
- 16:47seriously injured or killed by stepping off them
- 16:49is a number worth taking seriously. Bear spray.
- 16:56Carry it. Know how to use it. Practice the draw
- 17:00before you are in a situation where you need
- 17:02it, not during, and have it accessible on your
- 17:06hip, not buried in your pack. A bear is not going
- 17:10to wait for you to dig through your bag. The
- 17:12spray is effective. Research on grizzly bear
- 17:15attacks where bear spray was used versus where
- 17:18it was not shows dramatically better outcomes
- 17:20with spray. It is not a deterrent you wave at
- 17:23a bear from a distance. It is a close -range
- 17:26tool for if a bear charges and you need to stop
- 17:29it. The range is about 30 feet. Aim at the face,
- 17:33deploy in a sweeping arc, and know that wind
- 17:36matters. More than one person has deployed bear
- 17:39spray upwind of themselves in a panic. Carry
- 17:43it, know how to use it, and have it accessible,
- 17:46not in your pack, on your hip. Yellowstone has
- 17:49both grizzly bears and black bears. You will
- 17:52likely see bison before you see a bear, and you
- 17:55will certainly hear bear warnings more than you
- 17:57encounter bears. But this park has a functional,
- 18:00intact, grizzly population, and that is genuinely
- 18:04unusual in the lower 48. The regulations exist
- 18:08for a reason. Stay at least 100 yards from bears
- 18:11and wolves, 25 yards from all other wildlife.
- 18:14A bison that looks placid can move faster than
- 18:17you can run. and they kill visitors in the park
- 18:19on a semi -regular basis, usually because someone
- 18:22got too close for a photograph. I am not trying
- 18:25to make this sound threatening. The wildlife
- 18:28is the whole point of being here. Just give it
- 18:31room. When to go? Straight answer. Summer mid
- 18:37-June through August is full access, full amenities,
- 18:40and peak crowds. Parking at Old Faithful and
- 18:43Grand Prismatic fills completely by 9 in the
- 18:46morning on summer weekends. Get there before
- 18:489 or after 5, both for the parking and for the
- 18:52light, which is better anyway. July is when the
- 18:55thermal basins and Lamar Valley are both fully
- 18:58accessible. The backcountry is open. All roads
- 19:01are running. It is also when 30 ,000 people a
- 19:04day enter the park. Plan your popular stops for
- 19:07early morning. Accept that some afternoons will
- 19:10be slow. And do not plan your entire day around
- 19:13being at Old Faithful at noon. September is my
- 19:19personal recommendation for most visitors. The
- 19:22crowds have dropped meaningfully from peak. The
- 19:25elk rut is happening in Hayden Valley. The wolf
- 19:27packs are active in Lamar. And the light in September
- 19:30is exceptional lower angle. Longer shadows. Everything
- 19:34a little more gold. Temperatures are comfortable.
- 19:37The facilities are still fully operational. And
- 19:40you can actually park your car at Grand Prismatic
- 19:42before 8 in the morning without arriving at 6.
- 19:46The park exhales in September in a way that summer
- 19:48does not allow. The elk rut starts in earnest
- 19:52in the second and third weeks of September. Bull
- 19:55elk bugling at dawn in Hayden Valley. With the
- 19:59steam coming off the river and the grass starting
- 20:02to go golden, this is one of the great wildlife
- 20:05experiences in the United States. And it happens
- 20:09in a park you can still get into without a reservation.
- 20:13That combination of accessibility and spectacle
- 20:16is genuinely rare. Spring, late April through
- 20:19May, means snowmelt waterfalls at their maximum
- 20:21volume, bison calves appearing in the valleys,
- 20:24and roads opening gradually through the month.
- 20:26Some roads are still closed or on reduced schedules
- 20:29through May, so check current conditions before
- 20:32you build an itinerary around a specific area.
- 20:35Fall after mid -October and winter bring road
- 20:38closures, limited services, and dramatically
- 20:40reduced crowds. Winter is snow coach or snowmobile
- 20:44access to the interior. Old Faithful Snow Lodge
- 20:48is open and Lamar Valley Wolf watching in February
- 20:51is about as wild an experience as this country
- 20:54offers. If you have the gear and the flexibility,
- 20:58January or February in Lamar Valley is worth
- 21:00planning an entire trip around. A few practical
- 21:04things that will save you from avoidable problems.
- 21:08Download the NPS Yellowstone app and your offline
- 21:11maps before you enter the park. Cell service
- 21:14exists in pockets around developed areas and
- 21:17is gone everywhere else. I cannot count the number
- 21:20of people I have seen standing in a pullout,
- 21:23staring at a phone that has no signal, trying
- 21:26to figure out how far the next feature is. Download
- 21:29it at your hotel in Gardner or West Yellowstone
- 21:32before you drive in. Same goes for lodging and
- 21:35tour confirmation screenshots. Have them offline.
- 21:39Bear spray is available for rent at most entrance
- 21:42towns if you do not want to travel with it. Bison
- 21:45jams are real and can hold you for 20 to 30 minutes
- 21:48on any road in the park. Build extra time into
- 21:52every leg of your drive. The speed limit is 45
- 21:56miles per hour, which bison will render advisory
- 21:59in Lamar Valley and Hayden Valley at dawn. Do
- 22:01not honk. Do not try to drive through a herd.
- 22:04They weigh a ton and a half. and they do not
- 22:07negotiate. Gas is available at Canyon Village,
- 22:12Fishing Bridge, Grant Village, Tower Roosevelt,
- 22:15and Old Faithful. The prices are higher than
- 22:18outside the park, as they always are inside national
- 22:20parks. Top up before you enter, if you can. And
- 22:24note that Canyon Village and some other developed
- 22:26areas have food options. The in -park dining
- 22:29is not going to win any awards, but it is there.
- 22:32If you are staying outside the park, Gardner,
- 22:35and West Yellowstone, Both have solid options,
- 22:38which we will cover in Part 3. Let me give you
- 22:42the shape of a three -day visit, because Yellowstone
- 22:44is one of the few parks where three days is genuinely
- 22:47the minimum to see what the park actually is.
- 22:50Hmm. Day 1. Enter through the west or north entrance.
- 22:56Spend the morning in the Upper Geyser Basin,
- 22:58Old Faithful, the Boardwalk. Give yourself two
- 23:02or three hours. Afternoon at Midway Geyser Basin.
- 23:06with the Grand Prismatic Overlook Trail. If the
- 23:09timing works, Norris, Geyser, Basin, before dinner.
- 23:13Stay in or near the Old Faithful or Canyon area.
- 23:18Day 2. Up before dawn. Northeast entrance or
- 23:24straight to Lamar Valley. Spend the morning in
- 23:26Lamar. All of it. Do not rush this. Afternoon
- 23:31at the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone. Artist
- 23:34Point. and the brink of the lower falls, if you
- 23:38have the energy. Tower Roosevelt area on the
- 23:40way back for the Columnar Basalt and Roosevelt
- 23:43Lodge, which dates to 1920 and has a porch worth
- 23:48sitting on. Day 3. Hayden Valley at dawn for
- 23:52grizzly and bison. Yellowstone Lake. West Thumb
- 23:55Geyser Basin on the lakeshore. Mammoth Hot Springs
- 23:57if you have not been. The travertine terraces
- 24:00at Mammoth change constantly, and this side of
- 24:04the park, quieter, different geology. The historic
- 24:08fort deserves more time than most itineraries
- 24:12give it. Three days barely scratches it. Yellowstone
- 24:17is a park people come back to across their whole
- 24:20lives. Every trip is different. Different season,
- 24:25different wildlife, different features, active
- 24:27and dormant. Part three covers where to sleep
- 24:31and eat. But whatever else you do, go to Lamar
- 24:34Valley at dawn. At least once. That is the version
- 24:38of this park that stays with you. Next episode,
- 24:43part three, where to stay. The in -park lodges,
- 24:46including the Old Faithful Inn, which is one
- 24:48of the most extraordinary buildings in the national
- 24:50park system. The campgrounds. The gateway towns
- 24:53of Gardner and West Yellowstone. And how to base
- 24:56yourself to actually see the whole park, rather
- 24:59than just the part nearest your parking lot.
- 25:02Everything for the Yellowstone Series current
- 25:03road status construction updates. The NPS app
- 25:07link, permit information for backcountry camping,
- 25:10is at wildlandsnews .com. I'm Sean Spanauer.
- 25:16This has been Wildlands. Know the land before
- 25:18you reach it. See you Thursday.