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09/01/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Locked and loaded on a Tuesday in the good land. Drew, Billy,
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  Speaker 1: and Armin bringing it to you.
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  Speaker 2: Huddled up. Glad you're hanging out with us.
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  Speaker 1: 877-794-1973 gets you into the NicoletLaw.com talk and text line.
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  Speaker 1: Happy to be joined right now by our pal Hunter Baumgart,
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  Speaker 1: who out of a sense of duty watched the entire
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  Speaker 1: 17-3 debacle last night at Wrigley Fields and provided us
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  Speaker 1: a report that we spun through earlier.
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  Speaker 2: He's with us now. Good morning, Hunter. Thank you for
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: joining us. Thanks, Hunter.
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  Speaker 3: There was a baseball game last night?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And you had to cover it.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't dreaming that there was a baseball game last night.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't just a bad dream.
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  Speaker 2: I checked out. It was 6-0.
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  Speaker 1: And the third inning, when I saw Jake Bowers and
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  Speaker 1: Harrison almost kill each other at first base... And then
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  Speaker 1: like two batters later, Carson Kelly got a hit. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is not going to, this is, it's over. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: this is, it's it.
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  Speaker 4: So I, uh, that was, yeah, that play between Harrison
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  Speaker 4: and Bowers at first was like, yep, this, this is
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  Speaker 4: one of those nights. And yes, I did watch the,
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  Speaker 4: the whole thing. I, you know, that's just, uh, that's
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  Speaker 4: just what you, what you do. I guess I was
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  Speaker 4: entertained though. by the position player Vaughn pitching the last
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  Speaker 4: two innings. And sometimes we just get one inning of that.
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  Speaker 4: So I enjoyed that. Joey Ortiz with a little first
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  Speaker 4: base action. I mean, that's what makes it fun. Except,
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  Speaker 4: you know, then it's not as fun. Well, Hunter, we've
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  Speaker 4: been having a reference on the show about that.
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  Speaker 2: Just talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: We've been talking about that because it's happening across baseball.
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  Speaker 1: My buddy Andy in West Bend has been screaming into
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  Speaker 1: the void about it.
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  Speaker 2: Just forfeit. It's a joke. It's an affront.
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  Speaker 1: You got 13 pitchers. Why do you have to have
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  Speaker 1: these guys throw EFIS pitches? It's like, you know, slow
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  Speaker 1: pitch softball out there. And I used to think it
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  Speaker 1: was levity and it was no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Take the edge off, but it's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Like you, we follow the burst, but it's happening across
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  Speaker 1: major league baseball almost every night. It's become, it's not
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  Speaker 1: cute anymore. It's kind of like sad that it's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I get that. I, I could do with or
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  Speaker 3: without it.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's smart by teams because if you're in
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  Speaker 4: that situation, especially with a four game series in the
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  Speaker 4: middle of 16 games in 16 days, use a position player.
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  Speaker 4: Don't use, you know, any of the, I was texting
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  Speaker 4: with a friend and they were like, why, why is
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  Speaker 4: even Chad Patrick coming in at this point? You know,
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  Speaker 4: the game is over and, and obviously you're not going
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  Speaker 4: to use a position player more than like two innings,
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  Speaker 4: but I was even surprised they used Vaughn for two
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  Speaker 4: innings last night.
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  Speaker 3: But they, they did. And I think I get that.
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  Speaker 4: I get those arguments on both sides because I it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's not very fun to watch the umpire, you know,
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  Speaker 4: isn't giving you a couple of strike calls there. And
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  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, we all know what's happening here. Um,
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  Speaker 4: and then, you know, on the other hand, it is
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  Speaker 4: kind of fun to see what Vaughn can do and
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  Speaker 4: if you can put it in the zone, but it
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  Speaker 4: is just, you're it's, it's, it's almost harder. And, and
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  Speaker 4: BA was talking about this on the broadcast last night.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's hard to loop it in there. Sometimes it's almost,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you wish kind of, they would just almost
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  Speaker 4: play catch with the catcher, but then he's on a
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  Speaker 4: mound and he's.
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  Speaker 3: Not used to that. And how would that go?
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  Speaker 4: So it just was all sorts of, and plus it
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  Speaker 4: was hard to grip the ball last night. So all
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  Speaker 4: those things combined, but I do get both sides that look,
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  Speaker 4: it is, it can be just kind of a joke
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  Speaker 4: at times, but also it does bring some levity, especially
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  Speaker 4: when you're the team that's down, you know, 16 to
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  Speaker 4: three or whatever it was 10 to 13 to three
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  Speaker 4: at the time.
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  Speaker 3: It does bring a little levity.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and once they gave up the run to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that they were available for it, Murph. All right, let's,
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  Speaker 2: let's bring it right. Let's, let's immediately get to it
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  Speaker 2: and get onto the next night. And that's where you
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  Speaker 2: said it's smart. The numbers guys will say you should
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  Speaker 2: do it more. But I wonder how much baseball tries
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  Speaker 2: to curtail it. You said it. that it was hard
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  Speaker 2: to grip the ball last night as a sweater. It
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  Speaker 2: is hard to do anything when you're sweating that much. Now,
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  Speaker 2: my man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Golf club gloves on gripping, gripping my Yeti. I slipped
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  Speaker 2: on my hands every once in a while. My man,
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Harrison was dripping like no nobody's business last night.
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  Speaker 2: Is that the problem? Or is the drop in VLO
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  Speaker 2: over the last month and a half, you know, intermittently,
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  Speaker 2: I know there've been some games where he's back up
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  Speaker 2: to 95 and Seems like more consistently he's been living
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  Speaker 2: again around 91, 92 with that fastball. And when you're
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  Speaker 2: doing that middle in and middle, middle and up in
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  Speaker 2: the zone Hunter, that's a dangerous place to live. If
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  Speaker 2: it's not getting that late life, are we worried about
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Harrison? Are we going to chalk it up to
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  Speaker 2: the elements being the problem last night for him?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If, if he also didn't have the San Diego start,
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  Speaker 4: I think I would say just chalk it up to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, having a clunker, but now he's had two
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  Speaker 4: in the last in, in August.
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  Speaker 3: And so, You know, the other starts have been really good. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: his earned run.
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  Speaker 4: Average didn't go plummeting after the San Diego game because
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  Speaker 4: they changed that ruling, and so it didn't look as
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  Speaker 4: bad on the stat line as it really was. He
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  Speaker 4: gave up eight runs there, gave up eight runs last night. Like,
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  Speaker 4: this is starting to... Two out of the last five
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  Speaker 4: is not great, especially since coming back from the injury. And,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, what Pat Murphy said last night and
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Harrison both saying that he feels good physically.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just more so.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I got to execute where the pitches are and also
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  Speaker 4: the below. I think it's, it's that concerns me more
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  Speaker 4: than just the, the humidity and not being able to
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  Speaker 4: grip it. And there are sure there, you know, he,
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Harrison said to reporters after the game, like, yeah, there,
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  Speaker 4: there was some of that going on as far as
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  Speaker 4: the humidity goes, but he's like, I gotta be better and,
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  Speaker 4: and control that a little more, you know, wear sleeves,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it happens to be to, to kind of get
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  Speaker 4: the sweat off of there. But, I am a little
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  Speaker 4: concerned when it comes to what his fastball was doing
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  Speaker 4: earlier in the year compared to now and how effective
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  Speaker 4: it was and how it needs to be effective for
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Harrison to be as effective as he was earlier.
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  Speaker 4: And in May, the guy had a 0.96 ERA. August,
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  Speaker 4: he had been, you know, he had an under two
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  Speaker 4: ERA coming in. Obviously, that is with that San Diego game,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the eight earned runs turned into three. you know,
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  Speaker 4: things like that. But I, I, I am a little
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  Speaker 4: concerned because that fastball isn't doing what it was doing,
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  Speaker 4: both on the velo side and the location side. And
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  Speaker 4: so when both those aren't working for you, then you
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  Speaker 4: have to really change. And then the guys can kind
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  Speaker 4: of wait it out. Also both Murph and Kyle Harrison
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  Speaker 4: saying that he was tipping pitches a little bit that
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  Speaker 4: obviously has.
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  Speaker 3: To be cleaned up.
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  Speaker 4: Cubs are, as we know, they're, you know, made some
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  Speaker 4: news last week about, about getting some signs. So they're
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  Speaker 4: looking for that. They're, they're trying to gain any advantage
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  Speaker 4: they can against the Brewers. So, look, there are definitely
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  Speaker 4: some things that he needs to clean up as September goes,
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  Speaker 4: and you hope that September can be a little better
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  Speaker 4: than August ended.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Hunter joining us, Hunter Baumgart, brought to us by
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  Speaker 1: Import Minded. Okay, I always thought sometimes the tipping thing
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  Speaker 1: is a hedge. Like, you know, I must have been tipping.
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  Speaker 1: They must have had known what was coming. He faced
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  Speaker 1: 24 batters and gave up 10 hits and five homers.
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  Speaker 1: and that would that would raise a flag like maybe
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  Speaker 1: they knew it was coming but like you said if
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  Speaker 1: you're throwing 92 down the middle of the plate without
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  Speaker 1: a lot of uh vertical movement that's also gonna get
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  Speaker 1: you tattooed so i'm not sure it makes you feel
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  Speaker 1: better to say that they were tipping and craig's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell murph and they're not gonna tip their hand
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  Speaker 1: no pun intended they're not gonna say oh yeah we
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  Speaker 1: had it maybe if they were If this was an
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  Speaker 1: interleague thing or something, they would say, oh yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: had your guys pitches.
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  Speaker 2: And if this is in June, right. And you're like,
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  Speaker 2: Hey man, he might want to work on that for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of your year.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is like when the way it works
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  Speaker 1: is if a team gets a guy's hell, if, if they,
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  Speaker 1: if they have his pitches. they're not going to, they'll
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  Speaker 1: tell the next team that fate, like the Cubs would
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  Speaker 1: want to sabotage and would tell the reds, we got Harrison,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we got, they would tell everybody and cause
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  Speaker 1: they want to make it tougher for him.
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  Speaker 2: Do you buy that? Do you think that was part
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  Speaker 2: of it last night?
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  Speaker 1: Or was it just more about the velo and the
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  Speaker 1: arsenal being diminished?
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  Speaker 4: I think it was probably more the arsenal being diminished
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  Speaker 4: and and just, yeah, the location of some of those pitches.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you look at the location of those first
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  Speaker 4: three home runs and they were like right down the
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  Speaker 4: right exactly where those where those guys want it.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So there was definitely that. But I don't think they
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  Speaker 4: both would have brought it up if it wasn't the case.
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  Speaker 4: And Kyle Harrison got specific about where his hands were
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  Speaker 4: on his jersey. So I think there was definitely some
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  Speaker 4: of that. But I do trust that the Brewers are
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  Speaker 4: going to clean that up. And Kyle Harrison's like, I
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  Speaker 4: got away with it against most teams. He said that
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  Speaker 4: last night. So I feel like he did kind of
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  Speaker 4: maybe get away with it against other teams.
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  Speaker 3: And now look, you're towards the end of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Cubs obviously have a ton to play for, want to
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  Speaker 4: get back into this thing in the NL Central. So
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  Speaker 4: they're going to look for anything they can. But I
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  Speaker 4: do trust, whether it's Chris Hook or Charlie or whoever
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  Speaker 4: it is that's going to help them kind of clean
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  Speaker 4: that up. I do think they'll clean it up by
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  Speaker 4: his next start this weekend against the Reds. But I
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  Speaker 4: do think there is some reality to that. But at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the day, it doesn't matter what what
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  Speaker 4: if you're tipping pitches or not. The location of those
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  Speaker 4: fastballs were all right. And I'm curious because it's a
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  Speaker 4: home start. And those splits are still unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: The home run for him.
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  Speaker 5: He's given up eight earned runs and 11 total home
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  Speaker 5: starts this year compared to less. So you still have to.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I want to see out of him. If
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  Speaker 5: he's still great at home. OK, you kind of steady
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  Speaker 5: the ship a little bit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, where does this put Bobby Gasser tonight? Because he
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  Speaker 1: was last seen getting the call on short notice when
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  Speaker 1: May threw one pitch and got drilled, and he pitched
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  Speaker 1: really well. But you're also a second straight lefty. That's
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  Speaker 1: not ideal against the same team, especially against this team,
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  Speaker 1: the right-handers they have that mash. So what do you
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: expect Hunter to see out of Robert Gasser? Billy and
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: I are just cheering for a clean first inning. A
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  Speaker 1: scoreless first inning would be a good start.
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  Speaker 3: It's huge. I think in these games, it's, it's setting
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  Speaker 3: the tone. Murph talks about it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Like they, he totally believes it and setting the tone
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  Speaker 4: and the Cubs definitely set the tone last night in
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  Speaker 4: that first inning and Tyrone Taylor specifically. But I do
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  Speaker 4: think you want to for a very, very important to
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  Speaker 4: get a clean first inning. You'd love to jump on
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  Speaker 4: Boyd as well tonight. in the first inning, like you
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: did in the playoff series.
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  Speaker 3: That would be nice.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe jump on him a little bit early and
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  Speaker 4: then maybe give gas or a lead. I mean, this
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  Speaker 4: team playing with a lead is so different than this
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  Speaker 4: team playing with a deficit. And that's because you just,
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  Speaker 4: number one, obviously your guys can go out and attack as,
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  Speaker 4: as starters go, but also you're set up then for
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  Speaker 4: your a bullpen. when it gets there and they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be rested. Abner is going to be ready. McGill
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  Speaker 4: is going to be ready. You're going to have your
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  Speaker 4: guys tonight, obviously Patrick and hall pitching last night, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, hall. So I think they're going to have
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  Speaker 4: their guys ready in the bullpen, but gasser look, do
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  Speaker 4: what he did.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do what you did last time.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: You go look, if you'd love to have them pitch
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  Speaker 4: into the sixth inning, if you give up, you know,
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  Speaker 4: two or less runs, I think it's a, you're in
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  Speaker 4: a good spot. Like you said, specifically against that lineup
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  Speaker 4: because you're a lefty and you got some, some mashers
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  Speaker 4: in there. like we saw last night and you're going
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  Speaker 4: to face basically the same lineup that hit all those homers. So,
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  Speaker 4: and look, Gasser didn't have much time to think about
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  Speaker 4: it last time, right? He got pulled in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of a two Oh count or in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: an at bat and the two Oh count. We all
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  Speaker 4: know that the time before, then he just gets thrust
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  Speaker 4: into duty and is able to pitch last, last time,
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  Speaker 4: maybe without just kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of thinking too much.
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  Speaker 4: He's now at a week to kind of think about
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  Speaker 4: this and, and pitching in a big game, obviously at
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: Wrigley field against the Cubs.
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  Speaker 3: So you wonder how that plays into it.
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  Speaker 4: His only, the time pitching against the Cubs was at
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  Speaker 4: home back in 2024. So looking to look into as
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  Speaker 4: far as starts at, in the regular season.
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  Speaker 3: So I just want.
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  Speaker 4: Him to, to basically get through five pitching to the six,
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  Speaker 4: two or less runs.
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  Speaker 3: And I think you're going to be in really good shape.
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  Speaker 2: I liked you with some patent and positivity last night, Hunter,
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  Speaker 2: after the game is well in control with the boys
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  Speaker 2: wearing the C's on the jersey. But you fired up
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  Speaker 2: about the young guns having themselves a good start to
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: their Brewers-Cubs rivalry. Luis Lara and Cooper Pratt, two for four.
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  Speaker 2: With a homer. How big is it, though, for those
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  Speaker 2: guys to have some of these moments? Because we had
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  Speaker 2: talked about it when they went out west. Cooper Pratt
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  Speaker 2: not being in those environments. You got to think he's
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: going to be playing significantly in the postseason. Now, maybe
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  Speaker 2: they go more vets. Maybe it's David Hamilton and Joey
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Ortiz significant time being the left side of the infield
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  Speaker 2: once you get to the postseason. But how big is
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  Speaker 2: it for those guys to get some of this experience?
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  Speaker 3: For sure. Absolutely. I mean, Cooper Pratt.
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  Speaker 4: First at bat at Wrigley Field, 106 mile an hour single.
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  Speaker 4: And then you had Luis Lara with a double down
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  Speaker 4: the line in his first at bat. So that's a
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  Speaker 4: great way to start. Pratt, obviously, with the home run
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  Speaker 4: later in.
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  Speaker 3: The game, too.
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  Speaker 4: So these experiences are huge. Murph talked about it before
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  Speaker 4: the game yesterday. Like, I want these guys to get
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  Speaker 4: this experience, soak it all in and really learn how
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  Speaker 4: to keep your composure in these times.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, last night you're playing a little looser.
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  Speaker 4: Uh towards the end of the game because it's not
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  Speaker 4: as maybe you know it's not as close as obviously
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  Speaker 4: a 3-2 game in the seventh eighth or ninth inning
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  Speaker 4: that maybe you'll get here in the next three nights
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  Speaker 4: but I really liked what I saw it was a
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  Speaker 4: great opportunity and great thinking by Murph to get Lara
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  Speaker 4: in halfway through that game to just get him a
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: taste of Wrigley Field before he plays in a game
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  Speaker 4: that's closer and look he rises to the occasion we've
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  Speaker 4: seen both of these guys Kind of, it's been split
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  Speaker 4: on both of them, right? There have been some times
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  Speaker 4: where they kind of look overmatched in big situations. There's
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  Speaker 4: other times where they really look calm, cool, collected, and
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  Speaker 4: are able to go out and come through. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: hoping that with each experience and with each day that
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  Speaker 4: goes by in the major leagues, they gain that confidence.
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  Speaker 4: And look, having that kind of success at Wrigley Field
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  Speaker 4: in the first night, hopefully can help for the next
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  Speaker 4: three nights.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Hunter, this is, it's buried in, and it's
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: lost and it's an afterthought. It probably didn't even come
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  Speaker 1: up in Murph's post game or in any of the discussions,
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: but it was a four nothing game in the second inning.
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  Speaker 1: Garrett Mitchell's at first base. He takes off on a three,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: two pitch. Freelix called out on a pitch that seemed high.
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  Speaker 1: And then Mitchell was thrown out on a hell of
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: a throw tag by the Cubs who have an incredible defense.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Not saying that that was a turning point or that
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: play would have changed the game, but I did have
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: people ask me, why didn't Freelix challenge that? And what
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: happens then? If he challenges it and it's a walk,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: then Mitchell's safe, right? Because it's a walk. But Bowers
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: had used the challenge in the first inning, and you're
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: seeing teams evolve still with their challenges, and the Rangers
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: hardly use... There's some teams that come in. Seattle, I remember,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: came in and didn't challenge hardly anything. That, to me,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: was important, and I wonder.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: They weren't going to challenge the play at second, because
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: they saw that he was out, but and Sal missed
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: a chance to challenge good point pitch. And it was
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: probably ball four. So where are you on plays like that?
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering that's still evolving. And when we get to
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: the post season, we've never had this in the post
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: season before. So it's like, how does this, what is
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: the strategy.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Going to be like?
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be good. It's an advantage. If you're
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: good at it, it's an advantage.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Now I think there's still, I know we're in September now, but, Boy,
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: I think there's still a feeling out period with this
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: ABS system.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Teams do not have a good handle on it.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: And I think the Brewers are no exception to that.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: They're maybe not the worst team, but they're also not
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: the best team at this. And so I think they're
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: still trying to get a handle on it. And that's
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: not an excuse because now you've played with it for
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: five months. And so you probably should be a little
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: better than they have been. Last night, I think Trip
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Gibson maybe was was one of the only ones other
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: than the Brewers to have a rough night at Wrigley
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Field last night because, oh, that was I mean, that
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: that was some of those calls on both sides were
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: not very good. And it's and that one to free
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: like probably should have been a ball and he probably
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: should have challenged. I was surprised he didn't because Felix
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: face immediately after the pitch was like, oh, and I
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: was like, well, is he mad that he didn't swing
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: or is he mad that. he probably should have challenged
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: that and he should have challenged it. And like you said,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: it completely changes that. And maybe that turns things around,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: but then it goes back to the Bowers thing, right?
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Because if you're in a close game late, now it free,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: like misses that challenge by, you know, whatever it is,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: a half an inch or whatever. And then all of
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: a sudden you're in a situation late in the game
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: and now you don't have a challenge.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: That's probably why.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: So, you know, it's all, it's, it becomes situational, but
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Murph has said for months, like, If it's an obvious miss,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: challenge the call. And I think guys are still a
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: little timid on doing that. Certain guys are maybe more
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: so than others. And so that was one that you
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: probably want to challenge. There's some other ones in that
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: game as well. That's definitely, you know, the Brewers are
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: good at a lot of things. That is one that
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: has to improve.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: And that can... Like you said, in the postseason, in
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: these close games, that can matter a whole heck of
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they got 25 guys that are trying to figure
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: it out. We got one guy that fully understands how
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: to do it. My man Gary Sanchez is going to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: challenge as many as possible. So maybe we just tighten
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: the reins on that in the postseason, and maybe that's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: the best way to go about it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering in the postseason, because Bowers did it, and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, come on, you're like the third at bat
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: of the game.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Like, what are we doing here? It feels like you're
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: going to have to hold them back at some point.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Nobody can do it until the sixth inning or later
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I appreciated fourth game into the bigs, Luis Lara being like, hey,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: They've been playing it with it in the minor, so
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: they're a little bit more up to speed. He might
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: even be better at it. It's not my full Isaiah
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Joe in the NBA.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: The worst thing, the thing I can't stand about the
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: NBA is the 10th guy off the bench comes in
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: and immediately gets called a foul. He's waving to the bench.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Hey man, we got to review it. Here in baseball,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you just tap it. We don't even have to get
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the coach's clarification or thumbs up to be able to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: go and Gary Sanchez taking full advantage of it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And I say that knowing that It's like, oh, I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: don't use it until the sixth inning or later. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: in the first inning, like, it can swing a rally
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and it can short circuit, you know. And when scoring
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: opportunities are precious in the postseason, it's going to be big.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It's going to be the swing factor.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Like, if you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: And some of these, again, like, a lot of these,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: isn't it amazing how you're within, like, a hundredth of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: an inch or whatever it is?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: A tenth of an inch. Yeah, a hundred percent. Incredible.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Pretty crazy. Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's... Yeah, so.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Well, and that's like you said, like these, you know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: you may want to save it for later in the game,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: but those early situations can be huge. So that's why,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and Murph has told his guys, like, if
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: it's an obvious miss, you got a challenge and Bowers
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: probably thought it was and it wasn't. And then that
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: burns you because now you only got one the rest
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: of the game. And I think that plays into the
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: fact if if Freelike has two challenges there, I would
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: hope he would have challenged that one. You know, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: can't say for sure, but I would hope that he
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: would have.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I would. You don't know if you're going to get
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: a chance the rest of the game to do it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I get the idea of saving it, but it's just,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: it can be.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: A false choice. Caught stealing too.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you don't know the ripple effect of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: those things.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah. Epic. Anything else you got to leave us
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: with Hunter?
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Well, you got Robert Gasser tonight, Ms. Tomorrow and Henderson
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: on Thursday. So, Hey, if you come out of here,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: the rest of the series with a split, I think
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: you feel good. Take two out of the next three.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: And I think you're just fine.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: You leave with an eight.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: That makes today. Today is a pivotal. You would have
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: liked to have won the first one, but today is
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: more of a pivotal. I think that is, yeah, you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: give them two wins in a row and then they're
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: feeling good going up against Ms.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: And, and then, But if you win tonight, you're right
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: back to an eight game lead. And it's two games
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: later in the schedule. So I think that's that's key, too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: So and of course, you're still watching the Dodgers and
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Braves and seeing what they're doing and and keeping pace
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: with that top seed as well. So, look, these these
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: games are hopefully the next three nights a lot more
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: fun than last night.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: And hopefully all the extra like goofy runs they got on.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Gives their lineup a false sense of bravado and confidence.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Just market corrections coming, Armin.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It's all good. I'll take it if it does. All right. Hunter,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, man. We appreciate it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: You bet. Pre-game show at 5.30 this evening.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Excellent. Plenty to chew through lineup developments and the like.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: All right. We had planned.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: To talk to Bill Schroeder today in the next segment
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of the program. Bill is going to be with us tomorrow.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: He's feeling a little under the weather. I got a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: text from Billy.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: He's feeling a little under the weather, so we will
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: catch up with him tomorrow, but that means we have
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: more time to dedicate to picking our superhero of the day,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: presented by Current Electric. Call current.com. We'll have that for
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you next year in the huddle, Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Drew, Billy,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and Armand bringing it to you. Tuesday edition of the huddle,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Bill Schroeder, not going to join us.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: He's a scratch today. We will have him tomorrow, which
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: is a good bonus because maybe we'll be talking about
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a Brewers victory instead of a. deflating 17 to three debacle.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Is it bad that I kind of, I'm just, I
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: smiled after you said that because then we do get
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: to enjoy maybe a dub instead of talking more about
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: this beat down that we just witnessed last night.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: And maybe we won't see position player pitch for, you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that'd be nice.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, I would have pre, I would be okay with
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: a pitcher getting 27 ounce. I think that would be,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that would be a good course of action. Brewers got
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to get 27 outs. Let's make sure they do get
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: 27 outs because that means that they're winning the ball
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: game tonight. If a position player is going to pitch,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: let it be Bregman or Bregman. Yeah, for sure. Let's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: see if the, would they throw PCA out there and
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: ruin his F war or would that be, would that
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: be a problem?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: You might, you don't want to mess with it. You
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: don't want to mess with the war. I know Carson
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Kelly is one of their, one of their mainstay guys
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: that if they're going to go throw, they'll throw the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: pitcher or the catcher out there. So I appreciate it. Listen,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: wild bill could go out there and give you a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: couple of innings. I've seen him fire that ball back
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: at the guy to give him a wake up call.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: He tried last night. Just nothing was waking Harrison up.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was like three batters in. He buzzed
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: one real quick back to the chest. And you could
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: look at Harris and look back at him like, I
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: get it. I'm trying. I get it. Trust me. This
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: is not what I was trying to be doing.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: It just wasn't working. And Harrison was trying to get
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: through it and figure something out. You can tell the frustration. Well,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: to your point, Billy, it's the catch 22. You talked
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: about earlier. It's like you're nibbling too much, but then
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: you're throwing it right down the plate.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: But then you're walking. You can.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: That feels like the torture chamber for a pitcher when
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: you don't know what's going to work. Like, you know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: trying to be too careful, but not get the plate,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: but then guys are getting walked.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: So it was just one of those nights.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: My only pitching experience in beer league softball. That is
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the tough moment. Well, when you just keep serving three
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: straight balls and drew, you can't hit that big. Big
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: old mat that they have right behind the plate. It's impossible.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That is one of the most deflating feelings you're going
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to find. Especially against a team that won't swing. Like,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: come on, guys. Just swing. Come on, please. Take a walk.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: But it was one of those, you know, I was
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: thinking about actually that last night when Vaughn was pitching
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: because we were thinking of solutions about the deepest pitch position.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, well, maybe they can have an arc
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: rule like they're doing beer. In City League softball.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Can't go above eight feet.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: We'll just start an arc roll, and then that might
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: be the solution to our problem.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: That would be the way to curtail that.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Time for our Current Electric Superhero of the Day, brought
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to us by our friends at Current Electric. They've got
• 23:06
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• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Billy.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Call Current.com. Who do you got for our superhero of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the day?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So I was going to go with Albert Breer for
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a write-up that he did just now and posted, which
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: is live at SI.com. There are real writers and human
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: being writers at SI.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Not only the AI ones, but this one from Albert Breer,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: who's one of the top guys in the business, the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Monday morning quarterback said how the Packers Jordan love mastered
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: one of the toughest tasks as an NFL QB. And
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: it's a deep dive into Jordan love and his studying
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of Aaron Rogers coming from zero in a lot of areas,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: entering the NFL and how now he said he could
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: talk all day. about this stuff. A really, really cool
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: deal that talks about the lack of the large amount
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of games that Jordan played in college, 29 picks and
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: 26 starts over 38 games played in college. He had
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: so much room to still be able to grow. And
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: as love told Albert Breer and training camp that, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: He hadn't been setting protections at all. He had done
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: none of that in college. Now Matt LaFleur said he's
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: maybe the best guy he's ever been around. Cool dig
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: into what makes Jordan love right now. Hopefully prime for
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the best year of his career because Drew is coming
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: off statistically the best one of his career. You build
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: off that again. And really the only thing is consistently
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: being able to have your best performance because there was
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: four weeks after they lose Tucker Kraft where they just
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: offensively could not find any bit of a rhythm and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And two years ago, sadly, that was going right into
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the playoffs where they sputtered. The only game they ended
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: up scoring touchdowns was against the Saints on a Monday night.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: So being able to consistently put that in practice, super
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: good piece. I would urge a lot of people to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: be able to go and read this one. Jordan Love
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: is one of those.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: It's a weird athlete that the vibes around him and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the perception of his place. I think he plays better
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: than people think.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Especially outside of Green Bay and outside of our little
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: sphere of Packers influence. It seems like he's underregarded and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: undervalued for how he's played. And the numbers are the numbers,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: but for some reason people see him and think, eh,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: he's not that special. His turnover avoidance, which I think
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: is one of the hugest attributes that a quarterback has
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to have in the modern NFL, is not something that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you sneeze at.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: No, his ability to cut down on the turnovers last
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: year was the massive, was the biggest thing that he
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: had to correct. And he did a huge job, cut
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: him in almost half. The tough thing is the ones
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that are, that still stick in the mind are throwing
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the ball and basically feels like the game away against Cleveland.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: He then also drove him down for a chance to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: kick the game-winning field goal before regulation, and the guy missed.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So they had plenty of chances to still, and even
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: into the playoff game, statistically, his best game of his career,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: four TDs, most of these thrown in a game, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: he has them in position, but a drop ball off
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the hands of Jaden Reed and a couple of missed kicks,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and you need his touchdown to score, and you lose
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the game. the narrative still is that gunslinger that threw
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the game away. They feel like in San Francisco, cause
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: he throws two picks in the fourth quarter. I'm with you, Drew.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It's just not necessarily, not really the case when you
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: look at how he's played. And there are some very,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: very smart analytic football people that mentioned that a lot. Absolutely.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Billy. And there's a point where I think you, he's
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: a productive quarterback, but if it's not a flash year,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: I can't eat up for some people. They're just not
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: going to latch onto the idea that he's a super,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: super special guy. Because they need to see that type
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: of flash and stuff like that. But the substance is there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Cutting down the turnovers was massive, massive thing. And the
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: whole erasing the memories of the whole can you trust
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: Jordan Love narratives that always seem to persist.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: At least for some. They'll always be there. Well, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: he talks about it a lot. He talks about it
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: some in the piece where, again, your first impression to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: somebody is a lot of times the lasting one. People's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: first impression of Jordan Love playing pro football was that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: game that he had to start when they go to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Kansas City and Rodgers gets COVID and he looked completely
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: out of sorts. He's like Spagnolo's throwing blitzes all over
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the place. I had no clue what was happening and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: looked like a complete fish out of water. Didn't LeFleur
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: own that one? Big time. We didn't do a good job.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Funny thing is they almost won that game.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Which is funny because LeFleur maybe learned a lesson in
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that game because look how Malik Willis was prepared and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the game plan shifted when he had to play.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Totally. Totally was. And he mentions just how much he
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: learned from Rodgers in that perspective of understanding, being able
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: to diagnose plays at the line of scrimmage. It's a really,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: really cool piece. A lot of different examples of games
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: even from last year that played out. And Now, you
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: almost forget when you look at the 2020 draft class
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: of quarterbacks. Burrow, Tua, on to his next team. Justin Herbert,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: playing kissy-kissy boo-boo, still doesn't want to play off game.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: in the back end of that 2020 draft class is
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. So, like, there's a wild grouping of quarterbacks
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that have all been in there. They're... somewhat still tied
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to each other very much in how we remember that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: class but it is uh he's had one of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: better runs in it he just hasn't been able to
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: do what two of them have and that's be able
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to get get to a super bowl burrow the first
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: one hurts the last one if you count jalen hurts
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: into the that pick number 53 in the second round
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: both of those guys been there one of them's on
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: their on his second team and might not even be
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the starter on that second team. And the other guy
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: is generally speaking, the national media's favorite to win the
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: MVP every single year. It hasn't been able to deliver.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting how you, how all of those guys
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: have covered and their trend, their careers have transpired in
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: two of them. You know, the last two are the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: ones that maybe consistently have been at the top and
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: performing into the playoffs every single year. Like it, like it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Albert Breer, our current electric superhero that I call current.com.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to find out how they can help you get that generator,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: if you're thinking about it. Yeah, it's the time to
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: be able to get one. Armand's got a buy or
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: sell prop. He's been burning a hole in his pocket.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: What do you got for us?
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Buy or sell Tuesday, guys. And this one is not,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: we did a lot of sports today. This one isn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: exactly sports. This is more of a guy friendship lifestyle one.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: But I have to ask you and throw it out
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: there because it's happened.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It's real. So I'm just going to give it to you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Now, there's a friend on the group texts, my college friends,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: group texts, really good friend of ours, you know, and
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: we've done a lot for him over the years and
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: you do a lot for your good friends, right? I mean,
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: what are the ultimate things you do? What was the
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: old sign for like, Oh, I'm going to help you move.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: I'm going to drive you to the airport. This might
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: be the still, and we've done all those things with
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: him and, you know, pick him up when he needs
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: a ride and, Dire Straits, the things you do for
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: your friends. But he threw this out to the group
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: text by herself. Is this the wildest request you've ever
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: had from one of your buddies?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Just casually.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Anybody available in the next two weeks to help me
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: move a hot tub? I have to grab it from
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Cedarburg and go to my house.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Even if we can just grab it, that would be
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a huge help.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Curb weight is supposedly 670 pounds, according to Google. So
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: really not that heavy, just probably too big for a
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: couple people to live.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So I'll need three helpers.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I could maybe get my neighbors once it gets to
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: my house, but lunch and beers are on me if
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: you could. Is this the wildest request by yourself from
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: a buddy ever? You do a lot for your friends.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: We've done a lot for our friends. I'll drive you
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: to the airport. I might get in there even in
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: the mix at a bar if you're getting into a fight.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: No, you're not. Well, I'll at least be on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: periphery to do my part. But you just asked me
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: to ask to come over to move a 670-pound hot tub? Yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: but would you rather? What's worse? A 670-pound hot tub
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: is one item.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Or 10 hours of schlepping back and forth carrying 25-pound boxes.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you and I are on the same boat here, Drew.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: The move of a house is very open-ended. Oh, yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Move me into my divorce apartment. You've got to help
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: me move. That's a 10-hour hitch. And then you feel
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: worse when you leave. Because at the end of it,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you do have to leave. And then Buddy is sitting
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: there like... Well, now what do we do? You guys
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: have bought beer. You guys want to hang out all night?
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: No, man.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: We got live. Sorry, man. We got to go somewhere.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: This is one deal. You're going straight. See, I didn't
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: know my man was getting it from somewhere. So this
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: sounds like he's going Facebook marketplace buying a hot tub.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Got to get it. Put it in, I guess, the truck.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's got a forklift or what.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Probably got a trailer. Probably got a trailer that he's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: going to load it up into. And then you're going
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: to drive it home and then move it over there. Well,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: just so you're doing it twice.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: And this idea that 670 pounds is not that heavy
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: is a little, a little incredible.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It's clearly heavy. And so we're getting three guys.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I'm getting a couple of pizza.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: You expect me to, cause you bought cousins, you know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: or you bought, you know, subs and stuff that I'm
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: going to help you carry a 670 pound hot tub.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a casual day. I'm sorry. It's
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: going to take three or four dudes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: I can help you carry a dresser, a couple, maybe
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: a couch and a bed, some boxes.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: To me, that's not as big an ask as I
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: might need heavy equipment for this deal.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Drew's right, though. I think he's undershooting it. I
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: think he's going to need four or five.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to need four to five.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to, okay, deadlift 150 or 200 pounds
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and then carry.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It like, you know, A couple hundred, 200 yards. At
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: least a few feet. Well, this is on the curb. Well, no,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: it's probably in somebody's backyard. Is it in somebody's backyard?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Because he said, what, curb weight? He said the curb
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: weight is that. Curb weight. I don't know what that means,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: where we're getting it. Who knows?
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: The thing's probably knowing this guy in the house. We
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: have to move it through the house. I'm just telling you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Move it through the house. With this guy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But even if it's in the backyard and then... Yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: if it's in the backyard, that's going to be a hike.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Is it three Bill Schmids or is it three Arvids?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Could you put it on some kind of like a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: dolly or like with wheels or something?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I was going to say wheels. There's got to be
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a dolly and some straps that you can use. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: see dudes... You know how heavy this thing is?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I see dudes like move a fridge by themselves with
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the straps, you know? Like one dude carrying a fridge.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Like the movers, the pros.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe some guys do. Those are the guys that are... Oh,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: those guys aren't that big.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: But at a certain point in your life, asking people
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to help you move is... kind of gauche, because especially, like,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: just pay movers.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, pay the pros.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Especially for a two-man and a truck. A piece of
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: equipment like this.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And that's where, like, something like this, you pay, like,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: two men and a truck to go move this thing, and, like,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: they'll do it, and they're pros, and they can do
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it in an hour.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: To impose upon your friends and buy pizza and beer
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and stuff, spend a couple hundred bucks and let the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: pros move it for you.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, that's the way I look at it. And then
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: you can watch it and then feel a lot better
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: that you didn't do it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And then be like our friend Josh and charge people
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to come over and use it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say this also.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Pay for the electricity and for the hot tub itself.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need to know that I'm getting fed
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: and filled up that day. I'm going to need a
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: hot tub that day. I'm going to need a hot
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: tub the next day. I'm going to need to know
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that I'm coming in. Every weekend, I'm coming over. By
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the way. Hot tub is one of those things. Good
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: idea in theory. Bad idea in practice. Yeah, bad idea
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in practice.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: My nephew has one, and it's like... A lot of
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: work maintaining it. Like, doesn't use it at all. It
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: sits in his backyard.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I used the absolute hell out of ours in high school,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and my dad did a lot of work to make
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: sure it was ready. That was that. You're spot on,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot more work to it than you think.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. My pops went in there a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: whole lot. I know I did.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: I'm going to need that thing for heat therapy for
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: my back after I'm done with this. Are you going
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: to pay for my chiropractor bill for the rest of
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: my life?
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. Armand's just psyched out by the weight
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of it. Are you kidding me? 670 doesn't sound that bad.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Sounds bad to me. You need four dudes. I was
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: going to say, it sounds like you need four guys, though.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You're going to need one on each pillar. Because I'm
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: guessing this is a square beast. You're going to need
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: one on each post. You might even need a fifth guy. Yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: you might need a fifth. Because if you've got a
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: couple of arm and sides, we might need six. Exactly.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Are they four of me? Then we've got a problem.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I think you should be, frankly, you should be honored
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: he asked.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, sure.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm honored that he asked. Yeah, well, and then
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: price it out. You can just, like, you know. I'd
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: rather you ask me to call a tow truck.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: All the boys are like, okay, let's start a GoFundMe.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Everybody chip in 50 bucks, and we don't have to
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: go help him do this.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: You know what? That's my response. I'm trying to think
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: about the response. My buddy Siv was elite at this, though,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: because we grabbed so many couches. We got a grand
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: piano or a small piano that we got on Facebook
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Marketplace in college. That's amazing. We had a massive Marlin
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: that we got on Facebook Marketplace, a couple of entertainment centers.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: He would never tell you what we're going to go
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: pick up. You just go do it. We drove up
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to the one place in my buddy John's truck and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: he said, you're here for the piano? We're here for
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: the what? The what? None of us play. It was
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: a good party trick, though.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Listen, that's a little different, though, when you got the
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Carroll football team and he's a power lifter.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying. I played ping pong growing up, okay?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Somehow they put me in the picture of the Carroll
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: University celebration of move-in day. from, from when I was like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: when I was a freshman in college, it's a heck
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: of a photo. That's a heck of a photo of
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: me walking Billy, baby face, Billy, short haired, Billy getting
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: ready to carry some mini fridges up. That was a
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: heck of a day. My goodness. All right.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll close up shop. We got
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: our wake and bake story coming at you. You're in
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the huddle Fox sports radio, Wisconsin drew billion arm and
• 36:38
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• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Time for a little wake and bake relief, Billy. I,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: for one, when I checked out, tapped out when it
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was six nothing at the best night of sleep I've
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: had in two weeks.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. It was amazing, wasn't it? Let's wake
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and bake.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Keep the keep the line moving. Keep the vibes going.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: What do you got? Well, the only thing that was
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: keeping me losing sleep was worried if there was somebody
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: who was going to be posing as a Green Bay Packer.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: in a romance scam to scheme allegedly $ 1. 3 million out fellas.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Are we, have we been keeping track of the Dajon
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: love story? The John love is the 35 year old
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: that was arrested by federal authorities along with 18 year
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: old Taylor, Jamie Taylor, Jamie Chan for a romance scam
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that defrauded at least 26 women across four states out
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: of about $ 1. 3 million. Love was posing as an undrafted
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: San Francisco 49ers running back wearing the number seven. And Chan,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: acting as his financial advisor to push fake investments and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: loans via dating apps, videos, and texts reveal him quizzing
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: victims on finances, requesting quick cash and luxury deals, using
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: guilt trips leading to one man's girlfriend selling their house
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to join him. Oh, my God. He was arrested in Boise,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Idaho on August 24th, facing wire fraud and conspiracy theories charges.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: That is a very, very serious and sad situation. What's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: even sadder is now the videos are coming out. And
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: how on earth anybody was falling for Dajon Love playing
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: in the NFL? I just can't believe this, man. My
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: man was... There's certain people that have a like security blanket, right?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: People have a bag, sometimes a very high priced fashion bag, right?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: My man was utilizing a San Francisco 49ers helmet as
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: basically his Louie bag, taking that son of a gun everywhere.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: He's showing up to the beach running routes. He's, he
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: was going to, he got braids in his hair and said,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to need some security around. Cause I do
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: play for the 49ers. 49er player goes to get their
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: hair done. Drew, what are they probably not wearing? 49ers
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: practice gear and bring in their helmet. Nah, he's there
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: to take pictures. John loves there to take pictures. I
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: am going to need this comp by the way, because
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I do play for the 49ers. I got quite a
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: bit of quite a, I got, I got quite a
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: bit of cloud at this point.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Believe this guy, like Google, like, come on. Like how
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: does so many people believe it? It's amazing.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: The videos are hilarious. Now, there was another guy who
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: had a video that came out. One young man who
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: said that he had played basketball with love and love
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: had initially told them that he was a professional basketball
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: player from over. Said he pulled up the first game
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: in a Hellcat. Next time he showed up in a Lamborghini.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Holy cow. This guy's got to be playing somewhere. Had
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to be doing something. Then he said that he played
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: some football. And they quickly realized he didn't after they
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: threw him the ball and realized that he was not
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: an NFL player player. Gotta be one of the funniest
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: stories of all time. And I'm glad the internet is
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: around to be able to dig up every video that
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: this man was sending to these young ladies, the beach
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and God bless us. Cause those beach highlights. I mean,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: we thought Zach Efron didn't know how to play base
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: basketball in high school musical, anybody in field of dreams,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: no clue how to play baseball.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: They were studying at the Dijon love school of acting.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Top look. That's hilarious. $ 1. 3 million. Hey, I play for
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the Niners. I am going to need you to pick
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: up this check.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, you're that the Brewers had the replacement
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: players in spring training. When the real guys were locked out,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: they had to tell some of the replacement guys to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: leave their gear. at the ballpark because they were wearing
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it out to bars trying to pick up chicks.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Trying to pick up girls. Well, listen, you can't beat them.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Join them.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: They're the early on Dijon loves. Tomorrow on the program.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Hopefully a better day for the Brewers. We'll have Bill
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Schroeder will join us and it's hot take comp day.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: See you at five. Peace.