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Seinfeld’s Phil Morris Gets Real + Spectacular · That Car Show

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  You know, everything I do is just fun.
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  I just I just go and try to have the most fun I can and it seems
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  to be working out. Today on that car show, it's our
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  pal Phil Morris. Phil's an LA based automotive
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  enthusiast with both a 9/11 and AV10R8 in the garage, and he's a
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  familiar face each Friday morning at Newcomb's ranch for
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  good vibes. He's a familiar face, too, from
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  film and television, and he, of course, played the iconic Jackie
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  Chiles on Seinfeld. He shares what it was like
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  growing up as the son of a famous Hollywood actor and
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  forging his own fame in TV and movies.
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  This one's real and it's spectacular.
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  It's Phil Morris and it's that car show.
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  Welcome to this week's episode of That Car Show.
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  I'm Lindsay and I'm here with Ryan and we have a guest that we
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  are so excited to share with everybody this week, my good
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  friend Phil Morris, and he's a friend of the show.
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  We've all had the chance to hang out together in person, which is
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  not always the case with Instagram.
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  And we're all scattered around. You know, Phil's in Southern
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  California, I'm usually in Seattle, Ryan's in Colorado.
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  But we have actually all met in person at the Peterson at a
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  Ferrari event a few years ago. And now we're making it happen
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  virtually getting together on the podcast.
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  So Phil and I first connected on Instagram through Good Vibes,
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  Good Vibes Breakfast Club, which was founded by all of our
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  friends, Jay and Nicole Ryan up at Newcomb's Ranch in LA.
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  And then there was one Friday morning a little bit after that
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  where we were both there up at Newcomb's for Good Vibes on
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  Friday morning. And my dog happened to jump on
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  Phil's leg to say hello. And we realized we're connected
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  on Instagram. But then we actually got to say
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  hi in person. And you know, it's always fun to
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  put a face to the Instagram handle.
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  And we've been friends ever since.
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  We know Phil for his ready smile, his sense of humor, how
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  genuine and present he is when you are with him.
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  But he has a prolific career as an actor and a voice actor, and
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  many of our listeners will probably know him for his
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  portrayal of arguably one of the most iconic characters on TV,
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  Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld, Who is such a favorite.
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  In addition to Seinfeld, Phil has been on The Young and the
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  Restless, and he actually acted in the new Mission Impossible,
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  playing his father's character's son.
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  His father, of course, was Greg Morris, who was on the original
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  Mission Impossible TV show in the 60s and I think maybe early
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  70s. And so suffice it to say, Phil
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  has lived an incredible, unique life, and he's a TrueCar
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  enthusiast and a pretty good driver, if he does say so
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  himself. So are so excited.
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  Just ask me. Just ask him, right?
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  So we are so excited to have you with us tonight and hear some of
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  your stories. Welcome to the show, Phil.
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  Well, thank you. What a what a humbling
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  introduction. I really appreciate that.
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  Gosh, I can't wait to hear what I have to say.
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  You sound like a great dog. It's been a long year.
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  I can't wait to meet me. This is this has been a long
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  time in coming. But you know, we've met over a
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  shared passion, which is really terrific.
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  And you mentioned something, Lindsay, that is really very,
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  very common and that a lot of us in the car world know each other
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  from our our handles. And it was great to put a face
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  with that and Ryan as well. And, and the Peterson was a
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  great event. I mean, I'm a huge Ferrari.
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  I'm a huge car fan, but I'm a real huge Ferrari fan.
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  And to meet you guys over that was was terrific.
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  It was definitely, yeah. Thank you for joining us.
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  I mean, that was that was such a great way to kick off like sort
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  of your relationship to our show.
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  And we got to meet, you know, your lovely wife, Carla, who's
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  just so effervescent and just really added to the whole
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  morning. I know we all had a great time
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  together and just you know, you're, you're a true family man
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  and car enthusiast and we just were happy to have you with us.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  And so I know I've gotten to hang out with you at multiple
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  car events. One of them, my dad was with us
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  and you were telling us some really interesting stories
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  because you grew up, obviously, as the son of a working actor.
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  And so we wanted to hear sort of how did you get into cars?
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  But also, can you share because you had said there were some
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  unique experiences that your family got to have growing up?
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  Yeah. I mean, just being, being in, in
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  that celebrity world, you know, just get to it.
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  There's access that just, I guess regular folk don't have or
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  people who aren't in that world, they just don't have that
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  access. It's like full on VIP behind the
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  curtain stuff. And my dad became famous in
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  1966. Mission Impossible started in
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  66. I was 7, so I was very young.
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  So a lot of the things that we did which were amazing, I, I'm
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  not sure if they're real memories or if I kind of
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  highlighted them because you little kids, you know, they tend
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  to embellish their memories. So I actually went back and
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  people would say to me, ask this question, how, why are you so
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  under cars? My dad used to be the Grand
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  Marshall and VIP at many of the California races, California
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  500, the Riverside 500, the Long Beach Grand Prix.
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  So we went to all of those races and of course I was enamored.
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  We're in the pits. We met like like everybody.
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  So because those memories were so vivid and those the people
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  were so illustrious, I went back and looked at who was at the
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  19721971 Riverside Grand Prix California 500.
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  So at they think it was the Riverside 500.
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  I believe there were two races that went on that day.
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  One was a Formula One race. 1 was a Formula 3000 race, both
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  won by Mario Andretti. AJ Foyt was second in the
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  Formula 3000 race. The flag man was Paul Newman.
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  The special guests were the special guests were Greg Morris,
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  Steve McQueen, Muhammad Ali. The Supremes sang the national
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  anthem. I mean, that was just.
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  You can't write that. I, I, I'm just here to tell you,
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  even I was was like taken aback by how deep that dive was.
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  And I remember being on the roof of the Long Beach Grand Prix and
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  talking with Paul Newman about the race.
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  I remember seeing Muhammad Ali and meeting him and, and you
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  know, he was a huge fan of my dad at the time.
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  They were just, you know, they were gargantuan figures in
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  sports and entertainment. So to have that access, to be in
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  the pits, to smell the smells, to do the thing, it just it man,
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  it hooked me. It hooked me.
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  So I've been a an exotic car lover primarily ever since.
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  Yeah, yeah. I can't imagine that story.
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  I mean. Yeah, that's it sucks.
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  Did you know how special it was then?
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  Always. I always did.
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  We were always very grateful. And when we got a little bit too
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  big for Bridges, we thought we were too much.
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  Our parents were right there to go, hey, look, you know, I just
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  come from Ohio. Your mom's from West Virginia.
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  This is special stuff, you know so.
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  Right, like this isn't normal? Yeah, I mean, you can see here
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  in my house I have Wheaties boxes and they're Snoopy and
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  they're thing. I mean, my whole life is like
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  magical. It's just I have Le Mans,
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  Ferrari, let's go cult. I've got comic books everywhere.
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  I mean, it's it's this world, this life I've lived has been so
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  full and fantastic and I just keep going.
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  I lean right into it. I mean, you got to grab on with
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  both hands, right? If that's is that people are are
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  including you in, you'd be crazy not to say yes.
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  I'm not going to lie, I did not expect a Supremes mention that
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  early in the show. I mean, I mean, it's almost.
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  Unbelievable, Phil. Yeah, well.
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  That like. Yeah, how far we've fallen is
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  the people. Right.
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  Yeah, really. I'm really Really.
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  Incredible. That's a journey out, so and on
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  it goes. Even even.
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  Go ahead. Sorry, go.
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  Ahead. Well, dude, so how old were you
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  when you were chatting with Paul Newman?
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  I mean, that just blows me away. 8-9 you know. 10 you know.
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  So the The show was on for seven years, from 66 to 73.
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  I went from 7 to 14 very formative years.
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  Every year there was something amazing.
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  You know, there's a special golf tournament or a special, you
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  know, the Philip Morris Company sponsored the show the first two
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  years. And as a kid, I thought.
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  All the merch. Well, well, I, I, I just thought
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  I own the show, you know? You know, You know what I mean.
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  You're a kid. What do you know?
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  It's called Philip Morris. And he's right.
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  Yeah, like this is me. Not kidding.
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  Yes. It's just so it's kind of neat.
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  It's kind of neat, yeah. I mean, I'll say that's yeah.
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  And so did your did your whole family go, 'cause you have two
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  sisters, correct? All of us, all of us went.
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  We all went. We all loved it.
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  Yeah, we were. We were a big kind of amoeba
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  that would go from one event to another.
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  We'd go to the Emmy events, the Emmy Award events.
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  We'd go. My parents took us everywhere.
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  We were really well behaved kids.
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  We really appreciated it. We were enamored with the whole
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  world as well. So it was exciting.
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  Each one of us, my sisters and I would have like a day, a month
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  that we would be able to go and get out of school and go to the
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  studio and watch our dad film. So we each had a day that we
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  went with him and then we spent the whole day at the studio.
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  And you know, meant it was just like crazy because the Brady
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  Bunch was shooting, then The Odd Couple was shooting them.
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  You know, Bonanza was shooting. I mean, it was it was pretty
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  special. So I guess that's, you know,
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  some mystery why I do what I do. Well, that's I was going to say,
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  you know, you've, you've met my dad.
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  And right before we were recording, I said, hey, do you
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  have any questions for Phil? And I think I told you after we
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  met you and we had all gone home from the event, all of a sudden
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  it hit him and he went, Oh my gosh, Greg Morris, wait, hold
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  on. And he looked at my mom.
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  He said, you're not going to believe this.
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  I met Greg Morris's son. This is unbelievable.
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  So tonight I said, do you have any questions for Phil?
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  And he said, yeah, I would love to hear.
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  And you've talked about it a little bit.
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  Now, you grew up with your dad doing what he did.
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  And so can you talk about, like, how you were exposed to, you
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  know, obviously he got up and went to work.
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  What was that like being exposed to that?
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  And what made you want to follow in his footsteps career wise?
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  Well, I, I for a long time I didn't, you know, I was the only
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  boy and I was so young. You know, you're trying to
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  figure out who you are and find your own identity.
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  And every time somebody said, you know, little Greg to me, I'd
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  like no, it's Phil. You know, I would 8th.
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  I would definitely push back. I am pretty strong personality,
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  always have been, and I wanted to find my, my way myself.
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  And and so for a long time I was just an, an actor, an an athlete
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  and and a dude. And then I, I got into
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  automotive design early. Really.
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  Yeah. And I, I went to Arts Center for
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  about 6 months studying automotive design.
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  Yeah. I wanted to from the inside out.
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  And I had kind of a, an idea to go to kind of the Fisher body
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  plant and work there as a design.
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  Honestly, that's what I wanted to do.
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  And my grades weren't good enough.
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  My art was good, but my math sucked.
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  And and you know, you have the cars have to run and they, you
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  know. Feels like nitpicking, I'll be
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  honest you. Know unless you're a Swedish car
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  manufacturer, I don't know. Not a bad bad Oh, sorry, oh.
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  So woke up and chose violence today.
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  I know exactly. I'm so sorry.
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  Phil. We had to beat them while
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  they're down. Phil.
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  God, they're losing them right, left and center.
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  But yeah, I really wanted to be that, that guy.
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  And then my dad took me on location 11 summer, and it was a
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  movie that had some pretty amazing people.
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  Yeah. I'm going to tell you stories.
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  You guys are like, really? So my dad was doing this movie
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  with Billy Dee Williams and Henry Fonda and Chad Everett and
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  Merle Haggard and Buck Henry. And I mean, just crazy.
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  And it was an Army picture. I'm 17 years old, playing Army,
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  running around, acting like a fool.
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  And my dad had an accident on the movie and they came to me
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  and they told me they didn't know if he was going to be able
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  to finish it. And they wanted me to take over
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  the role that was an an actor. I mean, I had a pretty expanded
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  PA role wrangling up these these extras from Bakersfield, but
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  they felt like my energy was leadership material and my dad
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  was playing a leader and, you know, maybe I could swing it.
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  Long story short, he got better. But that got me into acting for
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  real, for real, for real, for real.
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  And I came back to LA and I started studying and I've been
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  doing this ever since. That's incredible.
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  I love it. What?
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  Was in your garage growing up? I'm just curious.
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  My dad had a 280 SE 3.5. He was really into that classic.
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  It was like his dream car. Yeah, he and Peter Graves, who
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  was the white yard guy on Mission Impossible, were the
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  first celebrity voices of cars in the States.
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  Like my dad and he were the Mercedes-Benz voices.
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  And then my dad was the Chrysler voice for years.
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  So there were a lot of Mercedes-Benz, a lot of 450
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  SELS, and my first real car, like my own car was a Chrysler
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  Cordoba. Wow.
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  Horrible. So I know horrible cars.
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  So I'm sorry, Sweden. I know.
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  Horrible. I just know.
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  Don't, don't be mad at me. Because I love you.
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  Because I'm one. Of the reality, I believe for
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  you at any rate, that was it's going to be a running joke.
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  I'm telling you that that was my introduction.
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  But cars have been around my whole life.
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  Yeah, you know, yeah. Well, and you have had quite a
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  collection over the years and I know we've talked about it said
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  I'm, I'm not selling any anymore.
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  Like if I get them, they're sticking with me because I mean,
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  we've all felt the pain of like, oh, the one that you had to sell
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  or the one that got away. And so when you get to the point
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  where you can alleviate that pain or start to, you know.
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  We are addicts, yes. Yeah.
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  But so can you share like some of ours that you've had over the
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  years because you know? Yeah, it's cool.
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  And it's because you know what, I I was bad with cars when as a
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  kid, I was terrible. I didn't want to spend money on
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  the cars. I want to spend my money on my
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  girlfriend, other stuff. I didn't see the benefit.
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  I just, I was not good. And so I, I got the cars that I
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  deserved. I literally I had a Pinto, I had
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  a Vega, I had, I had like bad cars, which in hindsight it was
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  perfect because now I am so responsible.
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  I am so grateful. I'm so thankful to have the
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  vehicles that I have and I'm so, so I'm prideful that I take such
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  good care of them now because I was such a irresponsible lout
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  before. I have something like a Pinto.
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  You do appreciate you can only go up, right?
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  Kind of kind of my my personalized license plate was
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  IIN 10 two and people would say, Phil, are you going to get
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  another car and go look at my license plate?
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  I intend to it's. Right there.
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  I intend to. Yeah, it was.
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  I was manifesting even then. My first real kind of car was
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  A1982911 SC Wonderful Root Beer Brown, which I put Gahi wheels
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  on three wheels. Perfect.
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  Such a baller tinted the windows brown tint.
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  I mean, it was, it was, it was cool.
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  It was cool. That's a commitment.
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  Like we are going full. Yeah, I was there.
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  I was there working brown to. Do everything, everything.
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  It was a pretty cool looking car.
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  I really like that car. And then I got an 88 Carrera,
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  which is perfect. Like that's just a perfect
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  sports car. And then I got a 1995993 Carrera
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  S and then I got a 2004 GT 3 and I have a 2012 9911 Carrera SI
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  have and then an R8 Audi 2018 rear wheel series.
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  So those. Are and that one?
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  Is and I only have the R8 and the 9911 now.
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  Everybody else is like. That that's all.
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  Yeah, I know. Well, I saw a black R8 the other
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  day and I thought of you because.
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  And this one, it was black like yours, but this one happened to
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  have ski racks on the rear window did.
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  You send me that? It's you.
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  Just in case you ever want to take the R8 skiing, you can.
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  Yeah, It was insane. I could see this thing coming
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  from behind me and I was like, what's sticking up over the top?
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  And then it passed us and I went, oh, of course, ski racks,
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  obviously. Yes, yes, what an option.
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  Like, you know Linds, you can do that in 911 as well.
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  Technically speaking, I've. Seen you know what's funny?
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  I think this one I've seen that a lot and I think it looks great
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  on 9/11. This was, I mean, and maybe
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  there's a reason they didn't put it on the roof on this RA, but
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  it was on the back window. And so it was an odd, yeah, it
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  was just an odd proposition. And it stuck up over like if you
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  were looking at the car from the front, you saw part of one of
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  them. It just.
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  Right. It was a conversation piece,
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  clearly, yeah. Yeah, well, the jumper fell off.
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  Exactly. In mid flight they probably put
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  it on the rear because the top of an R8 is very fragile.
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  You know, they don't have sunroofs and so the construction
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  on the roof is not very durable. So maybe there is more support.
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  In that area, that would make sense.
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  Yeah, weird though I I wouldn't do it.
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  No, So Phil, why Porsche? I mean, it's it's I feel like
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  it's it's it's something that we all kind of end up going to.
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  But but, but what what was what was your story with?
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  Porsche. Why Porsche?
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  It was easier than the Ferrari again to #1 Ferraris are my
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  first love. And that's just the my real, my
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  real love. My great, my, my favorite car in
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  the whole world is a 365 GTD 4 Daytona in the whole world.
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  I used to work at a place called the Beverly Hills Car Company
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  and I was the wash delivery boy, at least 16-17 years old.
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  So I would drive, you name it, we drove everything, D12 Jags,
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  everything. I had to deliver to the valley
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  to this. I mean, I drove them everywhere
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  and I washed all of them. So whenever there was a a
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  Daytona that came in, just the sound of it, the styling of it,
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  the IT was so sleek and sexy. And then I saw a movie called
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  Gumball Rally, and it was a big time star in that movie.
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  And I've been wanting one ever since.
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  So Ferraris have always been on my radar.
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  And I kind of love the mythos of Enzo Ferrari and the whole, you
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  know, Italian craziness. And but they're hard to get into
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  now, especially they're very expensive.
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  And I found that Porsches were better engineered, quite
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  honestly, as a sports car for what I wanted him for, which was
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  to drive them. You know, I'm a driver of my
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  cars. They're not garage Queens.
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  I put them on the highway. So Porsches are more durable.
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  They're they're a little bit more fun to drive seated the
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  pants wise and that you get a real feedback from them that you
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  you just don't get from the Ferraris.
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  Not in my estimation anyway. Not in the older ones.
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  The new ones, maybe I haven't driven a lot of the real new
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  ones. I feel like we could fix that.
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  We probably know. Can we?
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  I would love that, yeah. And the design of Porsche is
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  perfect. It's a perfect car to me.
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  Yeah, yeah. So is that you mentioned, you
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  know, you wanted to be a designer, car designer, and
• 19:35
  that's something that you and I have talked about up at Newcomb.
• 19:37
  I I think Byron showed up in a new Porsche at one point and I
• 19:42
  went, oh, I love it. And you're like, well, no, but
• 19:43
  here's the design elements. This is where they and it was
• 19:47
  fascinating. So do you find, you know, you
• 19:51
  obviously didn't do that as a career, but is that something
• 19:54
  that's sort of a thread through your daily life?
• 19:57
  Oh yeah, I think I'm an aesthetic person.
• 20:00
  And I like the visual of things and, and how they're put
• 20:04
  together. I think I like cars because of
• 20:07
  the man machine element, you know, how man and machine come
• 20:10
  together. And I mean, and that's why I
• 20:12
  love racing. You know, it's another element
• 20:14
  of the man and the machine come together.
• 20:16
  How do you channel these forces and, and, and, and make them do
• 20:20
  your bidding? I'm a race.
• 20:22
  I'm a racing, you know what I mean?
• 20:24
  As a, as a race driver, I'm talking about on the street, of
• 20:26
  course, I'm talking about on a track.
• 20:28
  And I'm going to skip graduates so that I'm enamored with the
• 20:31
  philosophy and the ability of a driver to, to put a car on the
• 20:35
  limit, the absolute limit. And that takes a a marriage of
• 20:39
  of man and machine and engineering and sentient being.
• 20:42
  And that's pretty interesting to me.
• 20:44
  Well when you think about it like 1 can't do that without the
• 20:47
  other on either side. So how did you get into like
• 20:52
  high performance and track driving?
• 20:54
  You know, I was first exposed to racing, you know, like I said,
• 20:58
  at a young age, I was exposed to the highest levels of racing at
• 21:01
  a very young age. And the people that I was, come
• 21:03
  on, man. My dad was friends with Gene
• 21:04
  Hackman and Clint Eastwood and they were both gentlemen
• 21:07
  celebrity racers. And he was a good friend of Mike
• 21:11
  Connors, who played manics on the.
• 21:13
  Ocean. He was a big sports car guy.
• 21:15
  So you mean that there were always exotics around?
• 21:19
  There were always Ferraris and Rolls Royces and from Mercedes
• 21:22
  Benzes and some Aston's and and Jags around.
• 21:27
  So I was always enamored with those stylings as well.
• 21:31
  I mean, they were just, they're exotics.
• 21:32
  They're called exotics for a reason, not just because of how
• 21:35
  they drive. It's because of how they look,
• 21:37
  how they make us feel, you know? All right, so we know you like
• 21:39
  Porsches and you like Ferraris. Is there anything that you just
• 21:42
  can't stand like a car you see and just recoil?
• 21:47
  Did someone say British? Did we say no, those are cool.
• 21:50
  I actually love them. It's just, it's just a joke.
• 21:54
  Tesla trucks, number one, number one on the on the hate parade.
• 21:58
  Yeah #1 on the hate parade. And that's Yeah.
• 22:05
  Wow. What was the other one I didn't
• 22:07
  like? It was a, it's a Honda.
• 22:08
  It's like a, it's like a modular thing.
• 22:10
  It's not great. The.
• 22:12
  Element, yeah. That's it, the element.
• 22:15
  That's a love it or hated preposition.
• 22:17
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:19
  See, that's why I'm on the show with you.
• 22:21
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 22:23
  What else did I not like? There's not, you know, I, I
• 22:26
  here's the here's the thing, like you go up to Newcomb, so
• 22:28
  you go any really good car show. Yeah, I might not like that.
• 22:32
  Like if I'm not into that car, unless the truck, probably not
• 22:36
  going to talk to you about that, but if you're into it, I'm into
• 22:39
  you. I'm into you because you're so
• 22:42
  into what you like, even though I may not buy it, it may not be
• 22:45
  something that would be in my garage.
• 22:47
  I, I, I just love the energy that they come, that we come
• 22:50
  with when it comes to our favorite steed.
• 22:53
  And, and so I'm, I'm all ears. I'm like, I'm your audience,
• 22:57
  baby. Talk to me about the M3 or the
• 22:59
  B4 or whatever it is you got that you're into, I mean.
• 23:02
  Vintage Corolla that you've brought up the mountain.
• 23:05
  The vintage? Yeah, well, who did that?
• 23:08
  It wouldn't be. I want to hear about this.
• 23:10
  No, I didn't bring. No, I think somebody did at one
• 23:13
  point. It wasn't a day that I was
• 23:15
  there, but there was a picture of it.
• 23:16
  And I was like, like you said, and I think we talked about that
• 23:19
  on the show too. It's like, I think that's one of
• 23:21
  the most interesting things about the car world is that
• 23:23
  there's an enthusiast for every model, which is so fascinating
• 23:27
  when it's not your thing and you're like, OK, so this is the
• 23:31
  car that has grabbed you and just taken hold and you're like,
• 23:36
  I'm all in. So like you said, you're like,
• 23:38
  OK, tell me your story. How is this the one that grabbed
• 23:42
  your heart when it's not something that one of us has
• 23:45
  connected with individually? I think that's what keeps it so
• 23:49
  fascinating. And you mentioned, you know, I
• 23:52
  mean, the the mix of cars that go to good vibes is always
• 23:56
  interesting. It's so eclectic.
• 24:01
  Yeah, it's a Porsche centric world in California.
• 24:03
  Admittedly, it's it's a very adaptable car for for our
• 24:07
  climate and, and how we drive and, and our roads and so forth.
• 24:12
  So there's a lot of Porsches, a lot of nine elevens that that,
• 24:14
  that, that show up there. But there's a lot of everything,
• 24:17
  you know, vets and BMWs and Nastens and Mclarens and what
• 24:23
  Civics and, and Toyotas and, you know, Fiats and it's a, it's a,
• 24:28
  it's a come on up, man. Well.
• 24:30
  And there's what you got. I think there's an Outback wagon
• 24:34
  that's like a. It wasn't one that came to the
• 24:36
  US. Maybe.
• 24:37
  I mean, there's all these unique.
• 24:40
  Yeah. And like my.
• 24:40
  Buddy Dom is a 300 SD. You know, there's this badass
• 24:44
  300 diesel he calls blue. You know, it's just, it's just
• 24:48
  it's that, but that's it, right? It's it's, it's our love for
• 24:52
  these things we give them like. Well, and you never know what
• 24:55
  you're going to. See, Phil, how'd that all start
• 24:57
  for you? You know the whole good vibes
• 24:59
  thing And you know that's. Right.
• 25:01
  No, Ryan, you did good. It's a good story.
• 25:03
  It's a good question. I had bought this RA, right.
• 25:06
  And and I was looking for a community.
• 25:10
  OK. I'm not a club guy.
• 25:12
  I'm not a joiner of things. I'm I just I just.
• 25:16
  But I was looking for people who were into exotic cars and I
• 25:19
  could drive somewhere and it was cool.
• 25:21
  So I go online and it's on Instagram and a buddy of mine,
• 25:25
  Bentley, Kyle Evans, who's a producer I've worked with on
• 25:27
  Martin and the other shows, Jamie Foxx show, He's a great
• 25:30
  producer. I love the guy.
• 25:31
  He is showing a picture of him and his drop top 911 leaving
• 25:35
  good vibes. And he goes, you know, everybody
• 25:37
  knows on a good nice day, I like to drop the top on my 911 and
• 25:40
  drive and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, where is that?
• 25:44
  And he told me and I said I will meet you Friday.
• 25:47
  I went that Friday and they will go well.
• 25:49
  Yeah. Well, where you driving?
• 25:50
  I said you don't worry about it. I'll bring in some.
• 25:51
  I'll bring up then. I got that.
• 25:53
  That's what I showed up. I got that.
• 25:55
  Don't worry about it. Don't you worry about it.
• 25:57
  And I showed up in the R8 and we drove up and I love that road.
• 26:01
  So I mean, I ripped that road from day one, loved every inch
• 26:06
  of it, got up to good vibes. And you know, you guys are going
• 26:10
  to you get them around turn and you come on just like tree
• 26:13
  lined. Yeah, those are.
• 26:15
  It's like you're in idle wise. You're like, I'm doing The Sound
• 26:18
  of Music's happening. And I grew up and this entire
• 26:22
  phalanx of 150 cars super cool. I'm like, I have found my
• 26:29
  people. Yeah, I've been going ever
• 26:31
  since. Angel singing birds.
• 26:34
  Flying Butterfly. Things were sweeter, smells were
• 26:40
  beautiful. I mean.
• 26:43
  Yeah, it's a little bit met Jan Nicole and and, you know, kind
• 26:46
  of the beauty of, of, of, of my journey is that I forget that
• 26:50
  I'm kind of the dude I am on TV. So.
• 26:52
  And that's great because then I can walk places and people.
• 26:55
  Hey. And I think like, do I know
• 26:56
  you're from high school? Do we know somebody from
• 26:58
  college? You know, I don't, I don't put
• 27:00
  it together. Yeah, I, I meet somewhere else.
• 27:06
  So there's so many people up there, car journalists that I
• 27:08
  really admire and they admire my work.
• 27:10
  And so it's like all love and it's really, really refreshing.
• 27:14
  You know, we talk cars, we don't talk about the business.
• 27:17
  It's just, it's just nice, you know?
• 27:19
  It's become bigger than LA. You know, I, I live out.
• 27:23
  Here it's international. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:25
  Like you go to LA, you make a pilgrimage, you know, to good
• 27:27
  vibes. It's, it's right up there with
• 27:29
  the Peterson or, you know, anything else.
• 27:32
  It's probably something magical. Depending on the weekend, it can
• 27:35
  be overwhelming. Yeah.
• 27:37
  You know, Yeah. Oh my gosh, Just love cuckold
• 27:40
  and they're in town. Yeah, you know, or people, but
• 27:43
  week before Monterey Week or Yeah, man.
• 27:46
  Well, and like you said, it's become like a pilgrimage.
• 27:50
  I know. What is it?
• 27:52
  Air water? I think Haggerty has coordinated
• 27:54
  a cruise from the garage and social in Van Nuys up to Good
• 27:58
  Vibes. And then they go to, you know,
• 28:00
  Air water the next day. And so it's and like, how many
• 28:02
  times does Matt Ferris say people reach out to him and they
• 28:04
  go, OK, where do I need to go in LA?
• 28:06
  I'm obviously going to the Peterson.
• 28:08
  I'm obviously going to Good Vibes.
• 28:09
  What are the other places like? It's a standard pub if you're in
• 28:13
  the car community. And I think you hit on a really
• 28:16
  important point and we talk about this a lot of like, I
• 28:20
  think one of the most beautiful things about the car community
• 28:22
  is it's the great equalizer because we're so focused on
• 28:25
  this, you know, hobby and some might even say sickness that we
• 28:29
  are so obsessed with these cars that it does.
• 28:32
  Like even when you and I first met, I didn't realize
• 28:35
  immediately that you were Jackie Chiles, who I obviously knew the
• 28:38
  character. I put it together later.
• 28:41
  But I think that's the best part is we all just, we're all just
• 28:43
  people. Right, right.
• 28:45
  That's the best point. Ryan, you were going to say
• 28:48
  about something about that? No, I just, I had that same
• 28:49
  experience when I met you at the Peterson and your lovely wife
• 28:52
  Carla. We just, we got along, you know,
• 28:54
  got on famously. And then I had that moment where
• 28:57
  I said, damn, I, where do I know you're from?
• 29:00
  And you know, and then, you know, I mean, I think this must
• 29:03
  be a regular occurrence for you. But, you know, but, you know,
• 29:07
  car enthusiasts, we just all kind of kind of get along,
• 29:10
  right. I mean, that's.
• 29:11
  Just so we speak the same language.
• 29:14
  Yeah, we speak the same language, you know, and, and,
• 29:16
  and I think we're looking for more community, honestly.
• 29:19
  And, and this is an easy end. You know, whenever I'm up there
• 29:23
  and I do a post from up there, I'm like, it doesn't know what
• 29:25
  you drive. You know, if you're cool, come
• 29:27
  people, they ask me all the time because I see the sticker on my
• 29:29
  car. They're like, well, what time
• 29:30
  does it start? I said whenever you get there,
• 29:33
  you know, what do I drive? Whatever you got, you know, you
• 29:36
  want. It's not really about that, you
• 29:38
  know, because when you get there, it has its own charm.
• 29:41
  It has its own energy and has its own vibe.
• 29:44
  And as long as you bring a good vibe, I think you come away with
• 29:47
  1. And that's that's been my
• 29:50
  experience 100% of the time I had it.
• 29:53
  I have. I've had so many wonderful
• 29:54
  experiences. There's so many people who do
• 29:56
  come up there and it's a destination spot.
• 29:57
  I know NFL players, yeah, who fly their cars in right, drive
• 30:02
  them up the mountain for the day, drive them back to the
• 30:06
  airport and fly them home. I love that now they're medical
• 30:09
  players, so they're multi millionaires, but that's their
• 30:11
  vibe. That's their jam.
• 30:13
  I remember seeing the guy who owns.
• 30:16
  He owns it's. Going.
• 30:19
  To be good. Alpena, Alpena, the owner of
• 30:21
  Alpena came up. Oh yeah, that's good.
• 30:25
  And he came over to me and he's like, I've seen your posts and
• 30:28
  da, da, da. And we came in from New York.
• 30:29
  We were in New York yesterday. We're in California today.
• 30:31
  We're in California because we're here at Newcombs, he says.
• 30:35
  Because this is the quintessential California car
• 30:37
  culture culture. And we want to talk to you and
• 30:39
  we want to know what it's all about and what you guys are
• 30:42
  interested in and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 30:43
  And I said, you got to meet Jay immediately took the owner of
• 30:48
  Alpena and his guy over to meet Jay and Jay, this is so and so
• 30:54
  from Alpena. This is Jay Ryan and Nicole,
• 30:57
  blah, blah, blah. And that I let him talk.
• 30:59
  I let him talk. I let him talk.
• 31:00
  And I come back and Jay's like, why'd you stick me with those
• 31:02
  guys? I'm like, wait, wait, Jay, Jay.
• 31:04
  No, no, that was the owner of Alpena.
• 31:07
  Alpena. Oh, oh, I just thought he was
• 31:11
  some German dude. That is funny.
• 31:14
  But that's. That as well.
• 31:17
  Yes, that as well. But that's the thing, you know?
• 31:19
  You don't think it's nobody. Don't care.
• 31:21
  Don't care who you are. You didn't care who he was.
• 31:24
  Just are you a good person? Are you cool?
• 31:26
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:26
  Yeah, well, it's. Become such a thing.
• 31:29
  Yeah, Sorry, Lindsay. You say It's become such a thing
• 31:32
  that it's become parodied by friends like Angela's Death
• 31:36
  Highway, who was on the show a couple of weeks ago.
• 31:41
  Have you had the have you been lucky enough to have been
• 31:43
  featured in one of, you know, in his body of work, Phil?
• 31:46
  Or no, I, I have not, I have been on other things like Oyster
• 31:51
  King or some of the guy and he's like, let's see if we can catch
• 31:55
  up with the RA, you know, and he's driving some M3 and his,
• 31:59
  his followers are all like, oh, you're going to smoke him.
• 32:03
  And I just, you know, I just just disappeared to the into the
• 32:06
  distance. Yeah.
• 32:07
  And then he hits me up and he goes, it was it was very
• 32:10
  difficult. You were very hard to keep up
• 32:12
  with. I said thank you.
• 32:13
  It's it's quite the honor. But I, you know, I only have
• 32:17
  good involvement with with people like that.
• 32:19
  Yeah. And the ones that I like, I
• 32:20
  watch and the ones that I don't just stay away from.
• 32:23
  Yeah. Yeah, easy as pie.
• 32:25
  Change the channel. Exactly.
• 32:27
  That's the beauty of it. Well, so you wanted Martin and
• 32:32
  you know, but you said, as you said, you started acting when
• 32:35
  you were 17 and you've been like, you've had the unique
• 32:38
  distinction to be a working actor all of that time, which is
• 32:43
  pretty incredible. But can you share like just some
• 32:46
  of the projects that you've worked on?
• 32:48
  Sure. Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:52
  You know, I kind of, I, I, I started, right, like in the
• 32:55
  middle of all the good stuff. You know, the TV was really cool
• 32:58
  back then. I I, I mean, I literally guessed
• 33:01
  it on a two-part Webster episode with Ben Vereen.
• 33:06
  Yeah, cliffhanger. It was crazy.
• 33:08
  It was really, it was crazy. It was like he played Webster's
• 33:12
  uncle who's trying to get into the business.
• 33:14
  I play a studio executive at Paramount and he comes to my
• 33:18
  office to to get a job. I've, you know, and I'm, I don't
• 33:22
  know, I've been too old. I was, I might have been 2726,
• 33:27
  you know, 25. And here I am playing opposite
• 33:30
  Ben Bereen and, you know, just having a great time in a comedy
• 33:34
  and it just went on from there for me.
• 33:35
  I did. I mean, I'm going to mention
• 33:37
  shows that nobody knows except maybe you guys.
• 33:39
  Heart to Heart was with. Yeah.
• 33:42
  That was a loyal viewer of heart to heart, right?
• 33:44
  I mean, great car show, really. A really good car.
• 33:48
  Show. And it was a show.
• 33:49
  It was an episode with Tippi Hedren and they use her actual
• 33:54
  wild. You should have has a wildlife
• 33:56
  preserve. That's right.
• 33:57
  And yeah, and so they use her actual animals on it.
• 34:02
  And I played her assistant with David McCallum, who you know who
• 34:06
  was Ilya Kuriakin in a show called The Man from UNCLE.
• 34:10
  I'm going to go deep here for you people and.
• 34:14
  And and yeah, and they killed me in the show and they.
• 34:17
  They kill you with animals. No, it's awesome.
• 34:21
  They stick a spear in me and they put me in a boat and I'm
• 34:25
  floating down the river in the boat and that's how the hearts
• 34:28
  see me is so good. I did Murder She Wrote with
• 34:32
  Angela. Oh, yeah.
• 34:33
  I got some cool stories. Yeah.
• 34:35
  David McCallum going. To be amazing.
• 34:37
  Wasn't David David McCallum, wasn't he on NCIS with Marco?
• 34:43
  OK, He's he was OK. He was the doctor or the the,
• 34:47
  the, the, the. And they called him Ducky.
• 34:49
  OK, that's exactly right. That's Dave Mckell.
• 34:52
  Yeah. And Ian Bannon was in.
• 34:54
  The I think it's continued, it's just back.
• 34:56
  Back then in TV, stars were guest stars on television shows.
• 35:03
  You know, I mean, they polled them for the major shows and I
• 35:08
  did them. My dad did a show called Vegas
• 35:10
  with Robert Ehrich. It was a short loop show.
• 35:13
  I went on that show and guested on that show as a as a
• 35:15
  basketball player who is shaving points.
• 35:17
  I mean, really. Yeah.
• 35:19
  Yeah. I mean, I've, I've had some
• 35:21
  pretty fun. Interesting.
• 35:23
  I did diagnosis murder with Dick Van Dyke.
• 35:26
  No kidding. Yeah. 2 episodes of that, as a
• 35:28
  matter of fact, where I was the killer.
• 35:30
  And it was with Barbara Bain. And I mean, just so many
• 35:35
  fabulous experiences that I've had doing the new Mission
• 35:38
  Impossible with Peter Graves, who was my Uncle Peter.
• 35:41
  You know, I grew up with him and his kids and then we're working
• 35:44
  together in Australia together on the show that he and my
• 35:47
  father made famous. So that's it's.
• 35:50
  Talk about. Magical.
• 35:52
  You played your father's character's son like your
• 35:57
  character was his character's son.
• 35:59
  What was that like? Mission Impossible.
• 36:02
  My version was born of a writer's strike at the time, so
• 36:08
  no one could write anything and the student executives who still
• 36:13
  needed to kind of create projects felt that Mission
• 36:16
  Impossible could be done again, not change a word and be just as
• 36:22
  modern. So in fact, when I got the job,
• 36:24
  I got my father's character's job.
• 36:26
  I was Grant, I was Barney Collier, which was my father's
• 36:28
  character in Mission Impossible. I got cast as Barney Collier.
• 36:32
  And then before we left for Australia, the Reich's the
• 36:36
  writer, the writers strike ended.
• 36:38
  And so then they made me Grant Collier, the son of and yeah, it
• 36:43
  was surreal. It was Wolf.
• 36:45
  It was beyond surreal. And then we shot in Australia,
• 36:48
  which was, was pretty crazy because we, I'd never been
• 36:51
  there. So to go there like full stop
• 36:53
  for eight months at a time was, was pretty well.
• 36:55
  And my dad came down and guested on a few episodes.
• 36:57
  So that again was surreal. This year, he's coming to my
• 37:00
  show to play his character right.
• 37:04
  My heart starts pumping and just just thinking about.
• 37:06
  It well, yeah, I mean, So what was it like acting with?
• 37:09
  Because obviously you said you got to go to set.
• 37:12
  It was tough. Did it was tough.
• 37:14
  I mean, it was tough, you know. I mean, we could, we could play
• 37:16
  it two ways. I could play it the Hollywood
• 37:18
  way and go. It was so terrific.
• 37:19
  My dad was so great to do. That was so amazing.
• 37:21
  Or I can tell you the truth, which was my father was in a bad
• 37:23
  shape physically. He just wasn't in good shape.
• 37:25
  So I wasn't that excited to have him come down because I knew he
• 37:28
  wasn't in good shape. The producers did not.
• 37:31
  So yeah, I knew the real story. So I didn't know what version of
• 37:35
  him we were going to get. And this just being, you know, I
• 37:38
  mean, I like we let's talk real, real stuff here, right?
• 37:41
  We're here for the truth it. All it all worked out.
• 37:44
  It was wonderful, but it was daunting.
• 37:47
  And, and and then we're playing a scene where at the end of the
• 37:50
  second episode is he did 2 parter for us.
• 37:52
  He dies in my arms. So we're playing a scene where
• 37:56
  he literally dies in my arms. And that didn't necessarily
• 38:00
  happen in real life, but it was pretty close.
• 38:03
  So. So what do I want to say about
• 38:06
  this? This journey has been
• 38:09
  unbelievably fruitful and incredibly eye opening as a life
• 38:13
  experience for me. And it couldn't have happened
• 38:16
  any other way. And I love every minute and
• 38:18
  minute of it. And I look forward to every
• 38:20
  moment. More honest with you.
• 38:23
  I mean, that's like if we can say that we're all way ahead of
• 38:27
  the game, right? Yeah.
• 38:28
  Yeah, yeah. That's the dream, right?
• 38:29
  That's. Right, that's what we're doing
• 38:32
  here. How has the business changed in
• 38:34
  recent years? You know, I hear from people and
• 38:36
  you know, it seems to. Is it tougher than ever to be a
• 38:40
  working actor? I think so.
• 38:41
  I mean, it's, it's changed. It's both.
• 38:43
  I mean, they're streaming, so a lot more content that's needed.
• 38:45
  There's a lot more streaming services than than there were
• 38:48
  networks. Yeah.
• 38:49
  So, so that's changed. It's changed the, the pay scale
• 38:52
  quite a bit because you kind of, you know, distill the, the pie a
• 38:57
  bit. But because I've been around for
• 39:01
  so long, you know, I've seen my father go through what he's gone
• 39:03
  through. There's always change.
• 39:05
  It's, it's ever changing. It's never not.
• 39:08
  It's fluid, as fluid as all get out.
• 39:09
  It's what entertainment is. When it doesn't change, it's no
• 39:11
  longer interesting. And so it's no longer painting,
• 39:14
  so it has to change. And we've seen it.
• 39:15
  I've seen it go from, you know, straight TV where you had to be
• 39:19
  there every night. You couldn't you couldn't tape
• 39:21
  it. You know, you had to watch a
• 39:23
  rerun in the summertime and reruns what went?
• 39:25
  And then there was this incredible thing called
• 39:28
  videotape blew everybody's mod. And now you could record things.
• 39:33
  You can watch them later. Then there was the VHS and then
• 39:35
  there was the DVD and then there was, you know what I mean?
• 39:37
  So right the way along this thing has changed and morphed
• 39:41
  and I have just been right there for it.
• 39:42
  And I think I did AI did a seminar called Phil Morris gives
• 39:46
  you the business meaning. I'm just name.
• 39:49
  Yeah. I'm giving you the business, the
• 39:52
  good and the bad and the well. Double on top right here.
• 39:54
  Tell you it was so good. He's like, you look at a ditch
• 39:57
  digger, right? And the dudes like sweating and
• 39:58
  he's like, hey, man, how you doing?
• 40:00
  He's like living the dream, you know?
• 40:03
  So yeah, the business. And it was about this very
• 40:06
  thing, how do you handle yourself on a set?
• 40:08
  How do you deal with when you go to a set like you're, you're a
• 40:12
  young actor, you're a student of acting.
• 40:14
  You've never had a professional job.
• 40:15
  You get a job on a show, on a commercial.
• 40:16
  What do you do the first day? You don't have a clue.
• 40:19
  You know, you show up to the set, you go see the AD, you tell
• 40:22
  them your name, you check in. So I would, it was like a, a
• 40:24
  seminar like that. It wasn't an acting workshop.
• 40:27
  It was how to be a professional. Actor how to conduct?
• 40:29
  Yourself. What I, what I wish somebody
• 40:31
  would have told me, have less ego, you know, be more of a team
• 40:36
  player, hang up to your wardrobe, always be on time,
• 40:39
  know your lines, which are things that you probably should
• 40:41
  know. But as a professional, you can't
• 40:43
  get away with not knowing it, right?
• 40:46
  So I'm doing this seminar and I tell one of my friends who's
• 40:49
  who's my age, I'm like, I'm doing the seminar.
• 40:51
  Oh, thank goodness. Because you know, because this
• 40:53
  new business, I can't stand it. You know, it's a self tape this
• 40:56
  and a self tape that. And I can't, I can't go in and I
• 40:59
  can't share my nuance with the casting people.
• 41:01
  It's always on the tape and this and I hear this like Charlie
• 41:05
  Brown's teacher. And I say as a Christopher, I
• 41:11
  love you. I just love you and I hear you.
• 41:14
  But I'm going to ask you a question.
• 41:17
  What if we started our careers today?
• 41:19
  What would we know to do? Only what we know to do today?
• 41:24
  We wouldn't think about all. Back in my day, I would go in at
• 41:26
  3:00, we're going to put my 8 by 10 and I'll be out there by 3:30
• 41:29
  on my hamburger drive by 7. No, we wouldn't be doing that.
• 41:32
  We would just do what was required of us to do today.
• 41:35
  And my point was, shut it. If you want to be, if you want
• 41:40
  to be in the game, you got to play the game.
• 41:42
  If you don't want to play the game, get out of the game.
• 41:45
  But the game's always going to be bigger than you.
• 41:47
  I mean, I don't care who you are.
• 41:50
  I remember on them, but you guys answer your questions.
• 41:53
  Y'all talk forever. I remember Christian Bale saying
• 41:58
  all of us at this level of success are just taking the jobs
• 42:03
  that Leonardo DiCaprio turned down.
• 42:06
  So no matter how high you fly, there's always somebody who is a
• 42:11
  bigger gorilla, bigger something, you know, in the
• 42:13
  studio, in the game, is always bigger than us.
• 42:16
  I love that. Well, it's, I mean, something
• 42:18
  I've heard in different areas of life, but it applies here is
• 42:23
  like, like you said, if you started today, it would be what
• 42:26
  it is. It's like you can like this is
• 42:30
  what it is and you are welcome to keep going or you can decide
• 42:34
  not to do it, but it's not going to change the nature of the
• 42:38
  game. Like you can change, you can
• 42:41
  change your careers, but if you agree to be here, this is how it
• 42:45
  is now. Right, you can change your
• 42:48
  approach so it works better for it, but you got to know what it
• 42:51
  is too anyway. Yeah, Phil, I had to stop myself
• 42:55
  the other day. I was talking to someone.
• 42:56
  They asked, you know, how long I've been doing podcasts.
• 42:58
  And I started going down this route of, you know, when we
• 43:01
  started doing this, there was a lot less competition.
• 43:04
  And, you know, you couldn't just go into the Guitar Center and
• 43:07
  buy the equipment. You had to kind of know it was
• 43:09
  you got to, you got to stop, man.
• 43:10
  You're going to stop. You became that guy, Yeah.
• 43:18
  You. Become a has been, you know.
• 43:21
  At some point, we all go. To anything I guess is what?
• 43:24
  Absolutely anything. We just happen to be talking
• 43:26
  about this. You know, we talk about cars.
• 43:28
  He's like Porsche, right? Their growth, their change is
• 43:31
  incremental, just increasing enough, just enough.
• 43:35
  If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know, just enough because
• 43:38
  the itch I the market changes, the people change.
• 43:41
  They want to have more stuff that's easier to drive the thing
• 43:43
  and whatever, whatever it is, right.
• 43:45
  But they're also going to dial in the Porsche signature.
• 43:47
  Yeah, so you don't. You can walk and chew gum at the
• 43:50
  same time I guess is my point. Those guys know what they're
• 43:52
  doing, you know? Yeah.
• 43:56
  Well, that one thing that you think like right before we
• 43:58
  started recording, you were talking about kind of the
• 44:01
  dichotomy of being an actor and what the nature of your job is
• 44:05
  as an actor and playing a variety of characters, but also
• 44:08
  what the industry would prefer to, which is being consistent.
• 44:13
  So can you talk a little bit more about that and like how
• 44:16
  you've handled that to have the career that you've had?
• 44:20
  Yeah, I, I, I think you have to make a choice, you know, are you
• 44:23
  a brand or are you an artist? Artist.
• 44:25
  I mean, some artists can be brands and, and you know, that's
• 44:28
  an extension of their artistry and then they're branded, right?
• 44:31
  And then there's people who, who work from this is who I am.
• 44:35
  This is what I do. And I take this everywhere I go.
• 44:38
  And you know, and, and a lot of people, it's good enough, It's
• 44:41
  good enough. That's, that's, that's their
• 44:42
  choice. That's their process.
• 44:44
  My process has been one of I look at the material, I look at
• 44:48
  this character. Can I love this human being?
• 44:50
  How are they, what do they want? What do they love?
• 44:53
  What do they hate, blah, blah, blah.
• 44:55
  Now I can do this person as I continue to do that, I am
• 44:59
  accepting them as opposed to putting myself in there.
• 45:05
  I'm trying to, I already know myself.
• 45:06
  I know what I am. I know who I am.
• 45:08
  I got to figure out who they are.
• 45:09
  And the more I do that, like Jackie Childs isn't me, you
• 45:12
  know, it's a very different energy than I am.
• 45:14
  But I know a lot of preachers and a lot of hustlers.
• 45:16
  I know a lot of, you know, street corner cats and and you
• 45:19
  know, my dad is a rapist Trump personality, a lot of him in
• 45:21
  there. So you steal from people that
• 45:23
  you know and things that you're aware of.
• 45:26
  That's my process and I think it's worked for me.
• 45:29
  Other people, even though they may say they are fine actors,
• 45:32
  you see them portraying the same energy from roll up to roll.
• 45:37
  It's not easy. It's not easy to lose yourself
• 45:39
  like a Daniel Day Lewis or Christian Bale or you know,
• 45:42
  there's a lot of actors that are amazing.
• 45:44
  Meryl Streep and, you know, some of the younger actors are
• 45:47
  terrific. Almost.
• 45:48
  I mean some of the. Informative stuff, yeah.
• 45:50
  Almost unrec. They go there, they go there,
• 45:53
  man. And it's, it's unbelievable to
• 45:56
  consume, to see. But I always like, I think you
• 46:00
  just alluded to this. I always am curious what that
• 46:03
  means for them on the back end, in their personal life or even
• 46:07
  just as an individual, because that's an intense commitment.
• 46:12
  Yeah, I read that Benicio del Toro for years took lesser money
• 46:17
  to play more interesting, diverse characters in in movies
• 46:20
  that didn't have the financing. But he wanted to play those
• 46:22
  characters because he needed to as a as an artist, you know, and
• 46:25
  I don't use the word artist like, you know, we're all
• 46:27
  artists. No, we're not.
• 46:29
  We're not all artists. You know, some of us are just
• 46:31
  representational people and we're not transformative.
• 46:34
  And to me, art is transformative.
• 46:36
  Can you can, you can. I can't walk.
• 46:39
  It's not to break my arm off, pat myself in the back.
• 46:42
  But it took guys a while to figure out who I was because I'm
• 46:45
  not trying to be that person. I'm me.
• 46:47
  I try to transform the best that I can.
• 46:49
  I'm not a sociopath, so I know I'm always me into this
• 46:53
  character that lives and breathes.
• 46:55
  When I go home, I embody or I envision that they are walking
• 46:59
  around. And when I come into work doing
• 47:01
  this show, I'm doing Fire Country right now and I'm
• 47:03
  playing a rancher and he's very different than me and he has a
• 47:06
  very difficult relationship with his daughter.
• 47:08
  I have a wonderful relationship with my daughter and my kids.
• 47:10
  So it's very difficult for me to play.
• 47:12
  It's counterintuitive. So I really have got to find him
• 47:16
  and, and slip into him, right? And so I feel like my, what I do
• 47:20
  was I, I see that these people, when I leave and I sign out,
• 47:23
  they're still at the ranch, man. They're still trying to put out
• 47:26
  the fire. They're still dealing with their
• 47:28
  daughter. I go home, I go to the hotel and
• 47:30
  I have a nice dinner and I go, no, no, come back and have a
• 47:33
  breakfast sandwich. And then I try my best to shake
• 47:35
  and fill off and then put on this character.
• 47:40
  And to the degree that I can do that, then I'm satisfied.
• 47:43
  And I have to be the one who's satisfied.
• 47:46
  And it's taking a long time to get there, you know, because
• 47:48
  you're trying to serve the industry, you're trying to serve
• 47:50
  your agents, you're trying to serve the producers, you're
• 47:52
  trying to serve the piece, you're trying to serve your
• 47:53
  fellow actors, trying to serve the director, You're trying to
• 47:55
  serve the lighting guy and the camera guy and the prop guy.
• 47:57
  I got a gun and I got a horse and I got a ring.
• 47:59
  You know, it's taking a long time to to collate all that
• 48:03
  information and and allow this person to live his life.
• 48:08
  That's transformative. Well, I love the idea of like, I
• 48:13
  think that's such a healthy sort of approach and tool to look at
• 48:18
  it as like, no, their timeline goes on while I go do my stuff
• 48:22
  and then I'm just going to come back and we'll link back up.
• 48:24
  I love that. It's, it's, it's really kind of
• 48:27
  spiritual to me. I love it a lot.
• 48:29
  I have good friends who watch this character.
• 48:31
  The first time they saw him, they're like, I don't like you,
• 48:33
  I love you. And then they wrote about it.
• 48:36
  They were like, you know, it's really difficult to see somebody
• 48:38
  that you love and not like them, you know?
• 48:41
  But I would imagine that's a high compliment because you're
• 48:44
  like, that means I did it well. Yes.
• 48:47
  Because these are people that are predisposed to love you,
• 48:50
  they already have affection for you and they're like, Despite
• 48:52
  that, not a fan. Yeah, that's exactly.
• 48:56
  I'm not trying to do it to win you.
• 48:58
  I'm trying to do it to be truthful.
• 49:00
  Yeah. I love that.
• 49:01
  I know you do a lot of voice over work in addition to all the
• 49:05
  on screen stuff. I've long thought that voice
• 49:08
  over work must be like the sweetest gig there is because
• 49:11
  you don't have to, you know, burden yourself with a lot of
• 49:13
  that, I suppose. Are you telling me is it?
• 49:16
  Yeah, you're right. You're not wrong.
• 49:17
  You know, it is much more difficult to do the
• 49:19
  three-dimensional representation of a performance.
• 49:23
  You know, admittedly, in voice, you're just using your voice,
• 49:26
  but you have to be so well versed in your reference points
• 49:30
  as a human being so that you bring the references that then
• 49:33
  we all respond to, right? You resonate based on my ground
• 49:37
  of being. And it has to be so nuanced just
• 49:39
  because it's only a voice, you know, and they're rendering the
• 49:42
  physical behavior. So I have to have that nuance in
• 49:45
  my voice to the degree that you as an audience, there's no
• 49:48
  scene, you know what I mean? You just dive right into it.
• 49:51
  So some of the most talented people I've ever worked with in
• 49:53
  my career are voice over actors. They're able to affect so many
• 49:58
  different dialects or even animals, you know, got him.
• 50:00
  This is a guy named Frank Welker.
• 50:02
  Frank Welker is known for animals.
• 50:05
  He was Dino in The Flintstones and he's played scooby-doo.
• 50:10
  He's played, I mean, he's amazing.
• 50:13
  The guy's insanely wealthy because he does so many
• 50:17
  different things and he's done so many different episodes and
• 50:19
  they rerun them all the time. And he gets paid like
• 50:21
  ridiculous. But he's so sweet and he's a
• 50:24
  nice guy. He's like this little Patricia,
• 50:26
  the old man, grandfathery guy. And you'd be like Frank.
• 50:30
  And he just starts this day and does his thing and turns his hat
• 50:33
  around and, you know, comes in in a Pendleton shirt.
• 50:36
  And it's pretty amazing how these people can just transform
• 50:40
  into these incredible characters.
• 50:42
  Corey Burton is an I mean, I, you know, I'm only signaling,
• 50:46
  singling these people out because they're coming to mind.
• 50:49
  Fred Tata show are incredible, incredible artists, but we won't
• 50:53
  get them like this. I don't have to dress like a
• 50:56
  Chinese bus driver, but I could blame 1, you know, I, I don't
• 50:59
  have to be from London to play a cockney mobster, you know what I
• 51:03
  mean? So it's, it's, it's, it's for
• 51:07
  me, it's, it's kids stuff. It's like, that's what we do as
• 51:09
  kids, right? We would do all kind of crazy
• 51:11
  voices and see things and talk real weird and we'd see the
• 51:14
  cartoons and try to affect that, right?
• 51:16
  It's just an extension of that. The more you keep that alive,
• 51:19
  the better you are at your job as far as I'm concerned.
• 51:21
  Voice over. When you when you, when you see
• 51:22
  someone that just works in an office, right?
• 51:26
  Do you want to grab them and shake them and say, you know,
• 51:30
  although I mean, not everyone has the gift that you have
• 51:32
  granted I. You know, I don't think anybody
• 51:35
  just does anything, do they? Yeah.
• 51:37
  I think that's, that's how I look at it.
• 51:40
  We just talked about it doesn't matter What Car you drive.
• 51:42
  You know, you have a, you have a, you have a Gordon Murray
• 51:46
  special, you know, one of 1/2 of 2, whatever the hell.
• 51:50
  You know your, your, your diary. Frank, Katie, you roll up.
• 51:53
  Are you more interesting than the dude who's got the Fiat 129
• 51:59
  who's like, restored it from the ground up?
• 52:02
  No, you're not. So it's that, it's that it's who
• 52:05
  you are, right? That person who's working in the
• 52:07
  office, maybe they're doing it because, man, they got the thing
• 52:09
  I got to do. So I don't ever look at it like
• 52:12
  that. I appreciate the question and I
• 52:14
  know what you're getting at. I know what you're getting at.
• 52:16
  I mean, yeah. Do I feel like you need to
• 52:18
  maximize your life? And I think some of us are not
• 52:21
  processing it the best that we can.
• 52:24
  Yes, I do. And I do feel that we need to
• 52:27
  get out of our comfort zone to appreciate other people, other
• 52:31
  cultures, other endeavors and other interests.
• 52:34
  And a great way to do that. Is it what we've been talking
• 52:37
  about for the last hour? Cars are one of the places
• 52:40
  where, I mean, you know, I'm an African American too, you know,
• 52:43
  this is a white female, white male.
• 52:45
  But we're all talking the same language.
• 52:46
  We all want to hear each other and be heard.
• 52:50
  And I think the more places we find that, if it's in the office
• 52:53
  and you find that camaraderie in that village there, I just think
• 52:57
  that we're missing it. I think here's what I think.
• 52:59
  I think that we think it has to be something.
• 53:02
  And it it, it just is right now. If this is it, you know?
• 53:07
  This is it. This is it, isn't it?
• 53:09
  Yeah, that's a great point. You know, I'm just so which, how
• 53:12
  you gonna play it? Yeah.
• 53:13
  You're gonna wait. You're gonna wait.
• 53:14
  You're gonna wait for the moment.
• 53:16
  So then you wait for those moments.
• 53:17
  All these moments are going by, which could be the moments
• 53:20
  they're freaking waiting. For, that's it.
• 53:22
  Right, we keep going like well, when XYZ and you're like, but
• 53:26
  no, the moments are all the moments.
• 53:27
  It's how you. I'd never have a you do it.
• 53:29
  I'd never have one if it was like, oh, it has to be the right
• 53:32
  thing and I have to have enough money and I, you know, I got the
• 53:34
  first kid and I got to own my own first house and.
• 53:36
  Right. Well, it's like what they say
• 53:38
  about having kids, right? Like, you can't.
• 53:40
  There's no perfect time to have kids.
• 53:42
  We all can relate to that. We're never ready.
• 53:44
  I'm not. Ready.
• 53:47
  Now I know. Yeah, it's funny.
• 53:50
  I got into a Miata for the first time in years and within the 1st
• 53:53
  500 feet I was laughing out loud.
• 53:55
  You know, isn't that a an analogy, right?
• 53:59
  I mean, it's just I don't have ever laughed in my Porsche,
• 54:01
  right? It's different, you know, it's.
• 54:03
  Porsche, take note. Kind of all I need to.
• 54:05
  Do no, it's so good. Our buddy Jay Ryan, he has he
• 54:09
  would call it dumbed down. He's dumbed down his his 997
• 54:12
  because he wants the feel of an old air cooled Porsche.
• 54:17
  So he wants to feel the same thrill at 35 miles an hour that
• 54:21
  I feel it. You know, whatever in my RA, we
• 54:23
  had this debate this week and and we're going to see him
• 54:27
  Sunday at at the Scots in Malibu.
• 54:29
  So I will tell him that you guys that I do this show.
• 54:32
  But we talked about he does that to feel exactly what you're
• 54:36
  talking about, Ryan and the Miata in his Porsche.
• 54:39
  And he's he's detuning it so that it's not so user friendly
• 54:46
  and it's more ergonomic and it's more seat of the pants.
• 54:49
  And so yeah, that that what brings a smile to your face is
• 54:55
  really what you need to go for. I mean, that brings a smile to
• 54:58
  his face. And I told him, look, man, I get
• 55:00
  a smile on my face AT5560007000 RPMS in my 911.
• 55:06
  That's just crazy fun. And it's I had a blast coming
• 55:11
  off the on ramp from the Marina Freeway under the four O 5.
• 55:14
  I'm not going that fast but I'm just feeling I'm hearing this
• 55:17
  V10 in my RA going bomb bomb bomb.
• 55:21
  That's all I need. That's.
• 55:22
  All I need. I'm good.
• 55:23
  That's a great. Yeah.
• 55:25
  Good. Yeah.
• 55:27
  Because it's the experience, right?
• 55:29
  It's like we've all had the experience of I'm going to turn
• 55:32
  the radio off so I can just experience my car.
• 55:35
  And that's one of those moments where you're like, yes, like
• 55:38
  this is that's the actualization lines up.
• 55:42
  It is it really is one of the things that we just for fun, we
• 55:47
  like to ask our guests because Haggerty does something called
• 55:50
  the bull market list where they talk about cars that are about
• 55:53
  to start appreciating in value. So here at that car show, we
• 55:58
  have something called the BS market list.
• 56:00
  So we would love to hear your two or three suggestions for the
• 56:05
  BS Market list. And it can be the same criteria
• 56:08
  as the Haggerty list if you like cars that you think are
• 56:11
  underappreciated. Or it can be whatever period you
• 56:15
  like that you feel fits the title of the BS Market list.
• 56:19
  Oh, that's so wild. And there goes that sponsorship.
• 56:22
  But you know. Exactly.
• 56:24
  We love you, Haggerty. Haggerty Yeah, yeah, sorry.
• 56:26
  I there's, well, I don't know the Haggerty list well.
• 56:30
  But that's OK, we are creating what?
• 56:32
  Do I think is the BS list? Yeah, cars you think will go up
• 56:36
  this year, cars you think we should all be buying, You know,
• 56:38
  like I I've said, we should all be buying, you know all the
• 56:41
  clean first Gen. boxers we can find, right, because they don't
• 56:44
  make cars like that anymore, right?
• 56:45
  And they can be found for for relative, you know, pennies,
• 56:48
  right. So that that I guess that's kind
• 56:50
  of the thought here, like what? What are we missing a mode on?
• 56:53
  Well I'm an R8 guy so I think people need to get the 1st Gen.
• 56:56
  R8 gate shift V8. They keep saying they're going
• 57:00
  to stop the R8 and then they start it again.
• 57:02
  So I think R8 can be on both lists where that's a great.
• 57:07
  Key. That's a great answer.
• 57:08
  They keep cutting the production so then everybody like me thinks
• 57:11
  my car is going to go up because it's going to stop and then they
• 57:14
  go, Oh no, but we're going to make a hybrid R8 or they're
• 57:18
  going to one more year for the twin turbo 660 horsepower, right
• 57:21
  well. We had Brian, we had that
• 57:22
  experience with the GT4. What did we have like 24 hours
• 57:26
  where they were like no more GT Fours and we all went we're like
• 57:30
  we're not set and then. You were like for the evening,
• 57:33
  Yeah. And then they're like hybrid,
• 57:37
  I'm like, yes, whatever they said they cancelled, they
• 57:40
  retracted their like you guys have the only ones that we're
• 57:43
  making. So yeah.
• 57:45
  What now? They're retrofitting the the gas
• 57:47
  engines, But yeah. No, see, because they know that.
• 57:49
  Well, I don't know what they know, but what I feel is that
• 57:52
  the EV it's not ready, not ready yet.
• 57:54
  We're not ready yet. We don't even know the knock on
• 57:56
  effect of it. You know, we don't know the
• 57:57
  knock on effect of storage, battery storage.
• 57:59
  We just don't, you know, we didn't know the knock on effect
• 58:02
  of leaded gasoline free the generation, you know what I
• 58:06
  mean? Yeah.
• 58:07
  So, so we have to, you know, slow your roll.
• 58:09
  I mean, all of a sudden, you know, it's, it's just the, the
• 58:11
  placebo effect. And so everybody's switching to
• 58:14
  EVs. Audi's going to turn around, You
• 58:17
  know, Porsche's like, wait a minute.
• 58:19
  My sure. So I think we got to wait on
• 58:22
  that stuff. I think cars like the RSGT, the
• 58:27
  Audi, which I like a lot, but I think they're going to go down
• 58:30
  like the Ticon. Unfortunately, I don't think
• 58:33
  people are going to, you know, they're going to turn around on
• 58:37
  it. I'm going to tell you right now,
• 58:40
  Audi's going to wish they made that gas version of that the
• 58:42
  same way Porsche, which is they made a gas version of the Ticon
• 58:46
  because I'd buy one if there was a gas version of the Ticon now.
• 58:49
  Do you think it's going to be like a bit of a valley and they
• 58:52
  will eventually recover? So they might be they.
• 58:55
  Always do. Future BS list.
• 58:58
  They always do and they'll come out with some technology that'll
• 59:02
  like make it easier for us or more palatable or hopefully it
• 59:06
  won't be just a marketing ploy and it really be with the
• 59:08
  technology that that moves us forward.
• 59:10
  I just don't think the EV is moving us forward like they want
• 59:13
  it to. My opinion Hybrid, What else?
• 59:16
  What's your perfect automotive day?
• 59:18
  You get up, it's, you know, the Saturday morning weather's
• 59:21
  beautiful. You live near the ocean, if I
• 59:22
  recall. So you know, where do you head
• 59:25
  from there? Do you go up the coast?
• 59:27
  Do you? Yeah.
• 59:27
  Well, now it's kind of sad because the coast is tough, you
• 59:30
  know, going up the coast is tough drive.
• 59:32
  I've lived here my whole life, basically.
• 59:34
  And most of my friends who did well, they moved to the
• 59:36
  Palisades where they moved to Malibu.
• 59:38
  So a lot of my friends were showing pictures of their houses
• 59:40
  gone in front of properties are no longer right.
• 59:42
  So it's kind of it's a little difficult on my spirit going up
• 59:46
  the coast sometimes Now it's getting easier and easier, but
• 59:48
  it's still a bit of a a slog because you can't really drive
• 59:51
  it. They want you to go 25.
• 59:53
  So it's not as unpalatable when you get north of like Pepperdine
• 59:58
  University then then it, then it opens up and it's an amazing and
• 1:00:02
  then the coast of. Well, and it's the same.
• 1:00:04
  Coast is so insane. That that section of it has not
• 1:00:07
  changed. That's all the same.
• 1:00:08
  It has been affected, you know, it's.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, in your. Areas to the South.
• 1:00:12
  The shock of it is not as much as it was initially, but it's
• 1:00:16
  still just sort of because it's such a change.
• 1:00:20
  But what's going to happen with all that?
• 1:00:22
  It's going to be incredible. The development's going to be
• 1:00:24
  weird. It's never going to be the same.
• 1:00:26
  Your houses, you cannot rebuild the way they were built.
• 1:00:28
  You know, developers will come in and they'll kind of cookie
• 1:00:31
  cutter a lot of stuff because it'll be easier to build that
• 1:00:33
  way. Cheaper insurance companies will
• 1:00:35
  go for that. So that's what will happen.
• 1:00:38
  It won't be as as as quaint as it was.
• 1:00:42
  Malibu was quaint, believe it or not.
• 1:00:43
  Palisades even more quaint, believe it or not.
• 1:00:46
  Yes, exactly. But my favorite car day is
• 1:00:49
  honestly going up to Newcomb's. It's going up Angela's Crest
• 1:00:51
  Highway. I, Jay and I say it all the
• 1:00:54
  time. We kind of almost don't need to
• 1:00:55
  go to the track anymore. Not because we're, we're not
• 1:00:59
  racing. We drive spiritedly.
• 1:01:01
  We do not race. I do not race.
• 1:01:03
  You know, if there's somebody comes up behind me, I have
• 1:01:05
  Johnny Lieberman's law, which is pull over.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah. Doesn't matter how fast you are,
• 1:01:09
  you weren't going fast enough. Just pull over.
• 1:01:11
  Don't now start going faster because they're up on you and
• 1:01:14
  you woke up or whatever. Just pull over, you know, and
• 1:01:18
  don't hammer them if they're not getting out of the way.
• 1:01:20
  That's not your business to do. So I have a really nuanced
• 1:01:23
  etiquette about the mountain and I love it and I can drive it
• 1:01:27
  just for flow. I can drive it just to work on
• 1:01:30
  my left left foot braking. I can drive it for a lot of
• 1:01:34
  different disciplines that I can't get anywhere else in the
• 1:01:36
  city, just can't It's. An objectively great Rd.
• 1:01:40
  Like it's got a little bit of every, I mean, you know, better
• 1:01:43
  than than I. Yeah, you know, it's just a
• 1:01:44
  great Rd. And Nine mile if you try.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah. If you go up on upper to Honda
• 1:01:49
  and you go up 9 mile that you know that you really want to
• 1:01:51
  drive a road that's like that's it.
• 1:01:56
  Yeah, that's that's it. That's one of that.
• 1:01:58
  And 198 Highway 198, two my favorite roads in the.
• 1:02:02
  World and I think one of the things that is hard to put into
• 1:02:04
  words when people maybe aren't from Southern California or
• 1:02:07
  haven't had the chance to come and visit and go up there to
• 1:02:10
  truly understand you're not that far like time and distance.
• 1:02:15
  You're not that far from downtown LA or other areas of
• 1:02:18
  LA, but you are so far, you know, environmental.
• 1:02:23
  I mean, you're up in the mountains.
• 1:02:25
  And that was one of the things that struck me the first time I
• 1:02:27
  went up where it's like, you know, if you squint really hard
• 1:02:29
  on a couple places you can find downtown on the way up.
• 1:02:33
  But you get up there and it really is like birds singing.
• 1:02:37
  It's quiet, you can smell the pine, it's mountain air.
• 1:02:41
  And then you can drop right back down into the city.
• 1:02:43
  And I think that's one of the things that's been such a draw
• 1:02:46
  for so many people because it is such a reset.
• 1:02:49
  And that's an amazing Rd. getting there.
• 1:02:52
  No, all of that is true. It's so accessible and, and
• 1:02:56
  there really is, you know, respect the Crest is, is very
• 1:02:58
  important for all of us. And you know, no matter who we
• 1:03:01
  are, no matter what your skill level, no matter what you drive,
• 1:03:03
  anything can happen at any time. You just have to have your head
• 1:03:05
  on a swivel and eyes wide open. And when you do that, then
• 1:03:08
  you'll have a great time. And did I show you the video of
• 1:03:13
  the, the rattlesnake? Yes.
• 1:03:15
  So talk about wildlife. So you know, it's it's nature up
• 1:03:19
  there. No bathrooms up there.
• 1:03:20
  So just say then you're put in the bathroom.
• 1:03:22
  You know, the bathrooms open-ended, the VIP rooms always
• 1:03:25
  open. So I'm to use in the VIP
• 1:03:26
  bathroom and, and I, I hear this sound and I, I look over and it
• 1:03:31
  looks like a squirrel like is looking at me.
• 1:03:33
  And I look up. No, it's not a squirrel.
• 1:03:35
  It's a rattlesnake, and it's 10 feet from me.
• 1:03:40
  And, you know, I kind of handle it and I take out my phone and I
• 1:03:43
  film it. And this rattlesnake is 10 feet
• 1:03:46
  long, huge. And as it passes my camera, you
• 1:03:49
  see the rattle just out of frame.
• 1:03:52
  And that was like, that's Newcomb's man.
• 1:03:54
  You're going to see deer are going to run across the road at
• 1:03:57
  any time. So be careful.
• 1:03:59
  You know, you can go up there. It can be snowy up there.
• 1:04:01
  It's it's nature. Phil, I love that your first
• 1:04:05
  thought was to take out your your phone and I.
• 1:04:08
  I couldn't believe it. I was like, I knew I was safe
• 1:04:11
  because it had turned around. I'm like, Oh my God.
• 1:04:12
  I got it. Yeah, nobody.
• 1:04:14
  That's intense. I'd want to share you.
• 1:04:18
  Know you know I I posted it immediately I was like look what
• 1:04:21
  happened up there they're. Like listen, this is what I do
• 1:04:23
  for you guys for the gram. Like I've put my life at risk to
• 1:04:27
  capture the rest. Yes, you're welcome.
• 1:04:30
  We appreciate the effort. And cell phone doesn't work up
• 1:04:33
  there, can't call anybody. Right.
• 1:04:35
  I think that adds to it. Yeah, that's that's amazing.
• 1:04:39
  Yeah, well, and there, I mean, there's been so many stories
• 1:04:41
  where something has happened farther down the mountain.
• 1:04:43
  I think there was one where the road was shut down and a handful
• 1:04:46
  of people had come up and they couldn't figure out why nobody
• 1:04:49
  else was arriving. They're like, gosh, it's a
• 1:04:51
  really light morning. Until they tried to get down the
• 1:04:53
  mountain and realized people had tried but couldn't because like
• 1:04:57
  you said, stuff happens. Stuff happens.
• 1:05:01
  It's crazy. Well, we have loved having you
• 1:05:05
  on. We will not keep you longer
• 1:05:08
  tonight, but we'd love to have you come back but.
• 1:05:10
  Can we This is? Great.
• 1:05:12
  What are what do you have coming up where people can see you in
• 1:05:16
  action? I am on The Upshaws, which is on
• 1:05:20
  Netflix with Wanda Sykes, Mike Epps and Kim Fields.
• 1:05:24
  So that's running right now. We finished that last season,
• 1:05:27
  but the new they hadn't run it yet, so it's brand new season.
• 1:05:30
  And then I'm also doing Fire Country for CBS, which is great.
• 1:05:34
  So I get comedy in the drama, which is wonderful.
• 1:05:37
  I'm doing a couple of NDA things that we'll talk about at a later
• 1:05:41
  date, but they're very cool. Oh my gosh, I love them.
• 1:05:44
  I do. I do another show which is not
• 1:05:46
  NDA called Phineas and Ferb, which is a cartoon that's been
• 1:05:49
  on forever. And I do what's called a wheel
• 1:05:51
  of voices. So I'll play any of a number of
• 1:05:54
  fun, crazy voices on there. And I just love those creators.
• 1:05:58
  You know, everything I do is just fun.
• 1:06:00
  I just I just go and try to have the most fun I can and it seems
• 1:06:03
  to be working out. Well, we all want to grow up.
• 1:06:05
  And you got to figure it out, yeah.
• 1:06:07
  A little bit, a little bit, a little bit, a little bit.
• 1:06:10
  So tell us where people can find you on social media in addition
• 1:06:15
  to obviously. The Phil Morris at D Phil Morris
• 1:06:18
  everywhere Facebook, Meta X Instagram, every all that I'm at
• 1:06:23
  D Phil Morris. So check me out.
• 1:06:26
  I'm not conventions. I've been doing a lot of
• 1:06:27
  conventions. I was just in Washington state
• 1:06:28
  last weekend, Rewind Washington and I like to talk to the fans
• 1:06:31
  and meet them. A lot of what I do is over the
• 1:06:34
  air, so I don't get a chance to really hear or feel the
• 1:06:36
  resonance of the performances. So conventions are a good way to
• 1:06:40
  do that. And to meet this people who
• 1:06:43
  literally pay my salary because they turn on the TV or go to the
• 1:06:46
  movies or buy the video games or buy the audiobooks.
• 1:06:49
  And that's lovely. I love it.
• 1:06:51
  I love it. I, I, I, I'm worn out every day
• 1:06:53
  because I just, I don't sit down.
• 1:06:55
  I talk to whoever comes over, you know, I go walk around to
• 1:06:58
  see my friends and hang out with, you know, other artists or
• 1:07:01
  celebrities or sports people. So that's pretty prominent right
• 1:07:05
  now on my journey as the convention circuit.
• 1:07:07
  I love that. Well, I think that that
• 1:07:09
  illustrates kind of what it's like to be friends with you as
• 1:07:12
  you are so enthusiastic and you give everything and then, yeah,
• 1:07:17
  we're not at the end of the day. Yeah, go to sleep.
• 1:07:21
  Yeah, good. Tired.
• 1:07:22
  Yeah. Good time, guys.
• 1:07:23
  I appreciate you so much. Appreciate it.
• 1:07:25
  Thanks so much, Phil. This has.
• 1:07:27
  Been really fun and you know, thank you to everyone for tuning
• 1:07:31
  in. I hope you've enjoyed the
• 1:07:32
  conversation with Phil. Obviously, he's got some amazing
• 1:07:35
  stories and you can come back and share more.
• 1:07:38
  And we'd love to hear about the new projects as soon as you can
• 1:07:40
  talk about them. For the meantime, thank you
• 1:07:43
  everybody for joining us. Please remember to like and
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• 1:07:49
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