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Speaker 1: Deo Radio Radio Commies a Myth and Bullshit, a radio
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Speaker 1: phonic novella. Look Radio hosted by Malamunos and Hello Lookas
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to local radio. Look At Radio is
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Speaker 1: hosted by your look As, I'm Malamunos and I'm Disa
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Speaker 1: fem and as you all know, during Brown Girl Hour,
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Speaker 1: we make space for the exploration and celebration of the experiences, brilliance, creativity,
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Speaker 1: and legacies of fems and women of color. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to another cap of Brown
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Speaker 1: Girl Hour. In this capitol, we're going to be talking
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Speaker 1: about fem tech and what that means. Um. We want
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Speaker 1: to explore the ways women and fems of color have
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Speaker 1: created technology in accessible way is we all know that
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Speaker 1: a lot of restrictions have been placed on our learning
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Speaker 1: and education historically, and in so many ways, our brilliance
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Speaker 1: is resurrected and manifested in these like techno historical ways. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: And this the idea for fem tech. For this is
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Speaker 1: something that we've been talking about for a while. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we've been letting it brew, We've been sitting on it,
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Speaker 1: we've been doing our research to really cultivate this idea
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Speaker 1: and our fem tech content is not only going to
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Speaker 1: be limited to this correct And it's also really hard
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Speaker 1: because I think Mala and I are both really impatient people, Like,
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Speaker 1: once we have an idea, we really want to put
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Speaker 1: it out there. But we have been like Mala said,
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Speaker 1: kind of like letting this idea of like what fem
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Speaker 1: tech is, let it, letting it culminate in our brains.
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Speaker 1: And like we've been now, we've been seeing everywhere, and
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Speaker 1: we've been seeing like inspiration everywhere. So I'm really excited too,
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Speaker 1: really a veil like all these different ideas in this
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Speaker 1: cup and share with y'all. Um. I think like first
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Speaker 1: and foremost, like we can talk about really like not
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Speaker 1: maybe not very subtle them tech um or like maybe
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Speaker 1: our first intro to some type of like stem as
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Speaker 1: women as young girls has been like through cooking, through
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Speaker 1: sewing mala for you, Like, did you first of all,
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Speaker 1: do you like to cook? I do like to cook.
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Speaker 1: I enjoy cooking. And my grandmother is and my grandfather,
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Speaker 1: both of them, they are the cooks in the family.
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Speaker 1: And as we all know, cooking is very much a science. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that must be really that must be a really interesting
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Speaker 1: fusion because as I remember, your grandpa is Puerto Rican. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's from Puerto Rico and so and my grandmother is
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Speaker 1: from Jalisco, Mexico, so the cooking that they do is
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Speaker 1: very different. Yeah, that must be delicious. It is delicious.
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Speaker 1: There's always something good to eat. I'm always trying to
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Speaker 1: eat flood then as we close in Peru also and yeah,
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Speaker 1: so do you like, do you have a dish that
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Speaker 1: you like to cook or that you remember learning as
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Speaker 1: a young girl. Well, something that my grandmother taught me
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Speaker 1: how to make um is themalist because she makes them
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Speaker 1: quite often, and there's definitely a science behind making whatever
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Speaker 1: time are making. So I think that was one intro
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Speaker 1: and another intro to kind of like fashion. But even
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Speaker 1: like I would say, like it's I feel like there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of engineering that goes into fashion and the
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Speaker 1: construction of clothes. Absolutely, there's a pattern. It's like so scientific,
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Speaker 1: very scientific, undeniable. And my grandmother and we'll because we're
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Speaker 1: definitely descended from like my grandmother and my great grandmother
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Speaker 1: worked in sweatshops in l a and they sewed in factories.
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Speaker 1: So sewing and pattern making and all of that stuff
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Speaker 1: has always been a big deal in my family. And
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Speaker 1: so my grandmother, like she may her own wedding dress,
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Speaker 1: she would make all of my mom and her siblings
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Speaker 1: their clothes. And my mother is of professional flamenco dancer,
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Speaker 1: but she makes her own costumes, you know. So I've
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Speaker 1: always been around the sewing machine and sewing, and my
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Speaker 1: dad's mom when whenever she had a new grandchild coming,
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Speaker 1: she would um quilt. She would make a new quilt
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Speaker 1: right for the new babies. So on either side of
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Speaker 1: the family, you saw those very like traditional firm methods
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Speaker 1: of creating, cooking, sewing, pattern making. And it's something that
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Speaker 1: I saw a lot growing up. Yeah. Interesting, Um, I
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Speaker 1: feel like I I don't really have that kind of
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Speaker 1: like memory. First of all, because my mom hates to sew.
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Speaker 1: She still hates to cook, like she won't admit it,
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Speaker 1: but she hates to cook. She like her and that's cool,
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Speaker 1: Like she didn't like it. I'm like, you don't have
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Speaker 1: to and sewing also, so I feel like I don't
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Speaker 1: really have that exposure from my mom. But for all
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Speaker 1: the other women in my life growing up, like everybody
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Speaker 1: had like their own little like niche like what they
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Speaker 1: were really good at. Like one day I was really
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Speaker 1: good at cooking, the other one was really good at sewing,
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Speaker 1: and she would like make dresses. And I know for
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Speaker 1: my mom, her THEA and Michinko would make her dresses
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Speaker 1: all the time, like a new dress every week, you know,
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Speaker 1: because that was like her her little baby um and
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Speaker 1: on my dad's side, same thing. Like everybody was good
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Speaker 1: at something. I think my one l designed hats at
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Speaker 1: the point, like in Peru, she was like designing hats
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Speaker 1: like millin yes, and then my thea like she when
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Speaker 1: she moved here from Bedu when they immigrated, she was
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Speaker 1: also working in a factory here in downtown l A.
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Speaker 1: And she kind of did like the whole fake it
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Speaker 1: till you make a thing, like I think that her
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Speaker 1: Her boss was like this Armenian man and he like
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Speaker 1: saw or she was like always like trying to do more.
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Speaker 1: So he saw something in her, so he started like
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Speaker 1: saying like can you do this? And she'd be like yeah,
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Speaker 1: but she had no idea, but she would literally create
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Speaker 1: it and she would learn and she would force herself
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Speaker 1: to like learn these different patterns and she became really
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Speaker 1: successful and like had like a business in Mexico and
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Speaker 1: Bidu and like was just like an entrepreneur, you know.
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Speaker 1: So I think, like we have models in our families,
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Speaker 1: then maybe we don't necessarily see them as like these
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Speaker 1: like stem tech like brilliant creators, but they really are
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Speaker 1: are yeah, and what they're what they're expressing and the
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Speaker 1: sewing or the weaving, um printmaking, pattern making, dyeing cloth.
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Speaker 1: All that stuff is what has been historically for centuries
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Speaker 1: practice as a means of surviving and creating. But also
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Speaker 1: a lot of our ancestors are fem ancestors have very
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Speaker 1: much been limited right to only utilizing certain forms of
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Speaker 1: knowledge and production that are accessible to them because you're
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Speaker 1: not allowed to go to school. What are you? Where
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Speaker 1: are you channeling your genius? Exactly right? I know you
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Speaker 1: hearing you say that, like thinking of our fem ance history,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking about like Mohas and Vinas and fidu
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Speaker 1: and like how like dies created, like for like Yama
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Speaker 1: and like alpaca, like you know, like the wool, like
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Speaker 1: how it's like died and how it's like an actual science.
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Speaker 1: And when I was in like we um, like someone
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Speaker 1: did a demonstration about I was at a a cooperative
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Speaker 1: type of thing and um it was like run by
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Speaker 1: a family, like like a few different families and they
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Speaker 1: were like showing us how they like take natural colors
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Speaker 1: and like diet. You know. So hearing you say that
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Speaker 1: reminded me of that trip um. I know that you
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Speaker 1: actually have and like a really brilliant example about sewing
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Speaker 1: and weaving. Tell us about it, Yes, absolutely so. Um,
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Speaker 1: what we wanted to do with this, right is talk
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Speaker 1: about how women women of color, indigenous women, indigenous fems
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Speaker 1: have been participating in technology, g and innovation for centuries, right,
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Speaker 1: Like we've been creating and our ancestors have been creating
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Speaker 1: for centuries. But quite often what the production and the
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Speaker 1: and the inventions made by indigenous women, by black women,
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Speaker 1: by brown women, by fems are often undervalued and considered
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Speaker 1: either frivolous, not that intricate, not that innovative. They're they're
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Speaker 1: completely undervalued because of who creates these products, and because
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Speaker 1: they're not, their utility is not recognized. Right. So we
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Speaker 1: saw a contemporary example of very ancient fem knowledge now
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Speaker 1: being utilized like in biotech. Yes tell us, yes so
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Speaker 1: we I bet a bunch of people have seen this.
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Speaker 1: But there was an article that made its rounds in
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Speaker 1: different publications, and Reclad did one, and Remesclad did an
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Speaker 1: article about Eyemata women from Bolivia, indigenous women who were
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Speaker 1: using their very traditional weaving techniques and weaving patterns to
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Speaker 1: create heart implants for children with heart defects. So I
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Speaker 1: guess there was some biotech company that decided to take
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Speaker 1: on these eyemata women as employees. And they're really they're
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Speaker 1: like in laboratories weaving the actual physical little tiny heart
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Speaker 1: implants by hand. Right, because based on the research that
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Speaker 1: I've seen and based on the journalism around these women,
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Speaker 1: the type of sewing, the type of intricate work that
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Speaker 1: goes into a heart implant is even more intricate than
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Speaker 1: machines can accomplish. Right, So they needed something so technical
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Speaker 1: that machines could not you know, performance. So they needed
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Speaker 1: to go and reach into a very like old, old
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Speaker 1: like pool of knowledge. So you have these indigenous women
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Speaker 1: literally saving lives and doing so in a biotech yeah,
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Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. Yeah. And I like how
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Speaker 1: you mentioned or you touched the on the fact that
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Speaker 1: a lot of these these knowledges are undervalued, right, and
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Speaker 1: because of who's creating them and who's producing them, it's
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Speaker 1: like not seen as important. It's not like scientific, it's
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Speaker 1: not genius. It's not genius. Yes, And if we if
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Speaker 1: anything with our fem tech theme and content, we what
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Speaker 1: we want to establish is that women of color our geniuses.
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Speaker 1: We are and have the geniuses for many centuries. And
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Speaker 1: I think also like we bring our community with us,
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Speaker 1: you know, like I don't see that from white men,
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Speaker 1: and I don't see that from like white women, like
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Speaker 1: I see like them like what is that word like nepotism,
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Speaker 1: Like I see that kind of like unfair ship where
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Speaker 1: it's like they the only reason they get ahead is
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Speaker 1: because they know people, not because they're act were genius
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Speaker 1: lies where they have the funds their idea exactly, but
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Speaker 1: like us, like no, we will bring on people with us.
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Speaker 1: And I feel like it's like almost commonplace now, Like
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Speaker 1: every other day you hear some like some stories, some
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Speaker 1: you know, human interest piece about oh, such and such
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Speaker 1: third world child learned how to create a helicopter out
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Speaker 1: of cardboard, or you know like such and such individual
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Speaker 1: in in an oppressed situation created like uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: like some crazy invention where they could give clean water
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Speaker 1: to their whole village, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 1: you see these examples a lot of young people, young
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Speaker 1: people of color, marginalized people, black and brown people, indigenous
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Speaker 1: people who use like the little resources that they have
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Speaker 1: to do what you're talking about exactly, uplift the community.
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Speaker 1: Youth tech right in a third world content us to
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Speaker 1: uplift their community. This is a really good transition into
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Speaker 1: what I'm bringing today, which is UM. This also did
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Speaker 1: an article on her and her organization. Her name is
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Speaker 1: Marianna Costa and she spewana UM. She started an organization
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Speaker 1: called Laboratoria and it began two and a half years ago.
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Speaker 1: And UM. What they're trying to do is give access
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Speaker 1: to young women and teaching them how to code. And
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Speaker 1: what I really like about it is that it's a
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Speaker 1: six month training as opposed to like two or three years,
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Speaker 1: because that is so much more accessible. Because I'm positive
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Speaker 1: that these women while they're training or they're in the
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Speaker 1: six month course, they're also working. Obviously, yes, so years
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Speaker 1: it does not know that does not work, like especially
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Speaker 1: if you have a family support, especially if you're like
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Speaker 1: the one of the younger ones in the family, so
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Speaker 1: you're expected to work and give money back home and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. So these women in are being taught
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Speaker 1: to code, and they're you know, doing the damn thing
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Speaker 1: because they're after they graduate, they have like higher rate,
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Speaker 1: you know. And I want to say that it's expanded
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Speaker 1: to Mexico and chilem and it's just really dope because
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Speaker 1: she had a vision and she was like solid that
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Speaker 1: the women in her community just weren't given access to things,
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Speaker 1: access to certain resources, not because they couldn't, you know.
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Speaker 1: So she took it upon herself to teach young women
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Speaker 1: to code, and she has like investors. Now she's just
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Speaker 1: like really expanding on what she's doing, and I think
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Speaker 1: that's really wonderful. Yeah, No, that's amazing, And I mean
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Speaker 1: it's so true. It's like the fact that women of
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Speaker 1: color are underrepresented in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, we believe,
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Speaker 1: I believe is completely antithetical to our history exactly. Look
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Speaker 1: at like there's so many examples, like look at our
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Speaker 1: Fami women ancestors. Look at our firm women ancestors. I mean,
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Speaker 1: when we talk about for example, like if you want
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Speaker 1: to talk about like Machu Pichu or like Aztec pyramids,
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Speaker 1: right or Mayan pyramids, and you want to talk about
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Speaker 1: advanced societies and astronomy and all the things that are
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Speaker 1: people were practicing for centuries, I imagine that our ancestors
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Speaker 1: were living in a different sort of historical context than
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Speaker 1: we live in now, and that women were able to
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Speaker 1: participate in different levels of society in ways that have
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Speaker 1: been difficult for us to achieve today. So like, for example,
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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of conversations on Twitter about how
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Speaker 1: different minority groups will talk about you know, it's difficult
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Speaker 1: to celebrate oh, the first you know, African Americans PhD
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Speaker 1: In chemistry, or the first you know, Mexican astronaut, or
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Speaker 1: the first such and such, you know, because there's this
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Speaker 1: assumption that our history has only been like a few
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Speaker 1: hundred years long, and so it's like, well, no, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that there were a ton of black astronomers and
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Speaker 1: you know, physicists before colonization and slavery, and there were
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Speaker 1: probably a ton of indigenous engineers, you know, and scientists
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Speaker 1: and librarians and all of these things before colonization. We've
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Speaker 1: been doing these things for a long time, for centuries.
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Speaker 1: But post colonization, it's like you're starting from literally starting
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Speaker 1: from zero. That reminds me of that meme of it's
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Speaker 1: like me linking everything back to racism and colonization, and
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Speaker 1: like that's literally, like I think about that all the time,
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Speaker 1: Like literally that is the rule of so many things
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Speaker 1: that have gone wrong. So because of that, you know,
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Speaker 1: like us who come from a long line of geniuses.
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Speaker 1: And I use that word intentionally and I'm not exaggerating
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Speaker 1: when I say women of color historically our geniuses, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I don't. I'm not going to use a different word.
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Speaker 1: That's the word. That's what we are. So the fact
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Speaker 1: that like we are, like fems are more known for
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Speaker 1: you know, beauty or cosmetology or nail tech or you know,
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Speaker 1: hair versus engineering, it's because that's where we were allowed
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Speaker 1: to channel our genius. Right that reminds that's a really
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Speaker 1: good um transition into our next topic. We have so
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Speaker 1: much to say about that, but before that, I think
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Speaker 1: we should go into a song break um um um
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Speaker 1: We want to talk about the very accessible ways and
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Speaker 1: how fem tech has manifested in both of our lives. Um.
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Speaker 1: So we want to talk about like beauty and hair
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Speaker 1: and nails and all that kind of beautiful fem adornment. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think, like like fem like there's so much fem
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Speaker 1: phobia in and like that's why, like our fem tech
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Speaker 1: is undervalued, you know, because it's like not it's seen
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Speaker 1: as extra, it's frivolous, it's not necessary. It's in the
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Speaker 1: way the way like the ship that people give me
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Speaker 1: that I do not ask for their opinion. They give
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Speaker 1: me ship because of my nails and their length. And
19:52
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't ask you, and like I have
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Speaker 1: been rocking and curling nails for years now. You know,
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Speaker 1: and of course I give my nails a break here
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Speaker 1: in that. But obviously if there are this link, like
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Speaker 1: I can get ship done, I can write a dissertation
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Speaker 1: if I wanted to, you know what I mean. I
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Speaker 1: got through my undergrad through them. I'm in my job,
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Speaker 1: my big girl job. Now I spend my monthly reports
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Speaker 1: to my director. Yes, you know, like they are not
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Speaker 1: in the way. But it's like, if you want to
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Speaker 1: be quoted professional, you can't have this kind of like
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Speaker 1: long adornment, right, you can't have your bold lipstick in
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Speaker 1: a in a meeting room with the executive director of
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Speaker 1: or a funder of your nonprofit. But watch me, I will,
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Speaker 1: you know. So I think, like we just have so
20:39
Speaker 1: much to say about like fem tech and like fem economics,
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Speaker 1: like economy, you know, an entrepreneurship, and like especially being
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Speaker 1: from the hood or like living in the hood, your
20:49
Speaker 1: families from the hood. However like that may look for you, Um,
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Speaker 1: we can see like the way informal economy has manifested
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Speaker 1: and there's a market for like fem adornmant you know.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I mean it's so interesting because nothing
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Speaker 1: that women do that fems do is without some type
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Speaker 1: of a history or some type of a trigger, a reason,
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Speaker 1: a context and origin. You know. So like even just
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Speaker 1: you talking about nails, right, So why are we talking
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Speaker 1: about beauty? Well, because historically beauty is one of the
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Speaker 1: only accessible avenues for production, expression for careers that women
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Speaker 1: have had. So we jumped into it and have flourished.
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Speaker 1: And there's a science behind it, Like I'm telling me,
21:36
Speaker 1: there's not a science between behind like getting like the
21:38
Speaker 1: right length of your acrylic the shape that history. Yes,
21:43
Speaker 1: you have to know what you're doing. They're using tiny
21:46
Speaker 1: machines and drills and a lot of electronics that that
21:51
Speaker 1: that go into it, depending on what kind of salon
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Speaker 1: you're going too. And like also if you think about
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Speaker 1: like nail are like where that originated from? Hello? Like
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Speaker 1: no out by Kim Kardashi and Kylie Jenner. No, they
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Speaker 1: did not originate that ship, no way. But um, like
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Speaker 1: even that, like the folks that can that can create
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Speaker 1: that type of art on a tiny little surface, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're brilliant. It's actually brilliant and it's wearable. It has
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Speaker 1: to be somewhat durable, it has to be somewhat tough.
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Speaker 1: Like there's so many different elements that go into a
22:22
Speaker 1: set of acrylic nails. Somebody told us actually shout out
22:26
Speaker 1: la la. She told us about this like bougie nail
22:31
Speaker 1: salon that I'm sure many of you follow on Instagram,
22:33
Speaker 1: but I will not name them. And she said she
22:36
Speaker 1: got her nails downe there, you know, paid the like
22:39
Speaker 1: expensive tag basically the price for them, and within a
22:43
Speaker 1: couple of days they all broke off, you know, and
22:46
Speaker 1: our twenty dollar sets, Like, how durable are they? You know,
22:50
Speaker 1: very extremely extremely yes. And actually, speaking of now art,
22:55
Speaker 1: we wanted to bring in some history. It's really important
22:58
Speaker 1: to be intentional. So we were doing some research about
23:02
Speaker 1: nail are and we knew that, you know, there's a
23:05
Speaker 1: lot of different types of people that that do nail art,
23:09
Speaker 1: that participated in nail tech. Nowadays, there's even kind of
23:12
Speaker 1: like nail art like reality shows. There's like conventions, conventions.
23:17
Speaker 1: It's a big industry. It's huge, eight billion dollars, I think,
23:20
Speaker 1: we read yeah, but some it's an eight billion dollar industry.
23:24
Speaker 1: I read this article on this website called take part
23:28
Speaker 1: dot com, and um, this writer named celest Wang did
23:33
Speaker 1: a story about the fascinating story behind why so many
23:38
Speaker 1: nail technicians are Vietnamese, right, so we know a lot
23:41
Speaker 1: of nail technicians a lot of people that work in
23:44
Speaker 1: nails are Vietnamese are our Asians. Somehow, Apia Api and
23:51
Speaker 1: uh So Celeste Wang did a story about how this
23:54
Speaker 1: actress Tippy Hedren was involved in working with come unities
24:00
Speaker 1: of Vietnamese refugees in California and basically bringing skill and
24:05
Speaker 1: job training UM to the different like camps where they
24:09
Speaker 1: were staying while they were transitioning right from Vietnam to
24:14
Speaker 1: American life. And so they were in refugee camps and
24:17
Speaker 1: something that the women took to was nail tech and
24:22
Speaker 1: working in nails. And according to this article that we
24:25
Speaker 1: were reading UM today the mail industry is worth about
24:29
Speaker 1: eight eight dollars and about eight percent of nail technicians
24:33
Speaker 1: in southern California are Vietnamese and across the US. So
24:38
Speaker 1: here you have this history where the beauty, the technology,
24:42
Speaker 1: the economy had This had so much to do with
24:46
Speaker 1: women of color in a state of being refugees, yes,
24:50
Speaker 1: you know, and needing to survive exactly like in a
24:52
Speaker 1: state of emergency, and that type of brilliance, like that
24:56
Speaker 1: creativity had to come out like the nessis that because
25:00
Speaker 1: at which is a lot of where economy comes from,
25:02
Speaker 1: Like there's a need, like you're surviving for your family,
25:05
Speaker 1: for yourself, absolutely, and I think of all Like in
25:09
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, for example, there's a lot of little salonasa,
25:15
Speaker 1: little beauty salons where it's all latin As, Latino X
25:18
Speaker 1: women you know who either they run the space or
25:21
Speaker 1: they rent out boots to other Latinas are Latino X
25:25
Speaker 1: people to work. And it's all having to do with
25:29
Speaker 1: they're creating, they're providing a service, but they're also feeding
25:32
Speaker 1: their families and their communities, right, and it's all through beauty.
25:35
Speaker 1: And not only that, but it's like think about the
25:37
Speaker 1: community that's created in these like nail salons, beauty salons,
25:41
Speaker 1: Like it's cheese my hour in so many ways, Like
25:44
Speaker 1: and it's also like your venting session, like you tell
25:46
Speaker 1: them like about what's going on in your family, and
25:49
Speaker 1: like maybe they hook you up with somebody that they
25:51
Speaker 1: know because they know somebody that they know somebody you know.
25:53
Speaker 1: And it's like also another form of survival because more
25:56
Speaker 1: more than likely, like you live in the area where
25:59
Speaker 1: you get your hair doneat your nail stand, you know,
26:01
Speaker 1: I know that's true for me. Um. And there's also
26:04
Speaker 1: like the informal salons that exists, like in the garages
26:07
Speaker 1: and people's houses, renting a room maybe to cut someone's hair.
26:12
Speaker 1: Right the gym that I go to, she like is
26:14
Speaker 1: creating because she's also a hairdresser and like this nutritionist
26:17
Speaker 1: and she's like now they just moved locations and she
26:21
Speaker 1: has like a big room where she's going to start
26:23
Speaker 1: to do hair. Like she's like creating like something totally
26:26
Speaker 1: different and totally brand new. You know, we'll not brand new,
26:29
Speaker 1: but like in the sense that it's a gym and
26:31
Speaker 1: hair salon, I think that's pretty cool. Define that is
26:34
Speaker 1: some self care and self love right there, you know
26:36
Speaker 1: it really is. Yeah, yeah, And I even wonder, you know,
26:39
Speaker 1: like how many because we can talk even about like
26:43
Speaker 1: feminists on a global scale and global economies, so there
26:46
Speaker 1: are so many layers to it, because like feminists is
26:48
Speaker 1: at once like constantly constantly like consumed and I'm justified
26:54
Speaker 1: and used for purposes that are not healthy for us,
26:58
Speaker 1: right like our and our bodies and and and all
27:02
Speaker 1: of that are used a lot of times to oppress us.
27:06
Speaker 1: But when I think we take our feminists into our
27:09
Speaker 1: own hands and we're projecting it and utilizing it for
27:12
Speaker 1: our own purposes. That's a totally different scenario exactly. That's
27:15
Speaker 1: when like when people want to say, like, oh, feminist capitalists,
27:18
Speaker 1: it's so this, it's so that, because like you're spending
27:22
Speaker 1: to get something done. You know, you're buying your shopping
27:25
Speaker 1: as the flora, Like what are you doing for the revolution?
27:27
Speaker 1: Like hold on, you know what at that minute? Wait
27:32
Speaker 1: a second, Um, yeah, I think that's like a really
27:36
Speaker 1: really important part that you're touching on in terms of
27:39
Speaker 1: like fem identity and like once we're taking our identity
27:41
Speaker 1: into our own hands and like using however that like
27:45
Speaker 1: fem adoration, like adornment looks for you and that type
27:48
Speaker 1: of fem worship for yourself, Like it doesn't have to
27:51
Speaker 1: be makeup, it doesn't have to be like this kind
27:53
Speaker 1: of that like everyone's adornment looks differently, right and like
27:58
Speaker 1: for us, like this is what it is, you know.
28:01
Speaker 1: And I'm even thinking like how if we're talking about
28:04
Speaker 1: what are you doing for the revolution, how many sen
28:09
Speaker 1: who work in like a fem industry, who cut hair,
28:12
Speaker 1: who do nails, who do makeup? I wonder how many
28:16
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars in remittances are sent abroad,
28:21
Speaker 1: are sent back home and are feeding families off of
28:24
Speaker 1: money that was made doing nails and hair. You know,
28:27
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish we had a number. I wish
28:29
Speaker 1: er thousands and thousands of dollars. Yes, money on in babysitting. Yes,
28:33
Speaker 1: you know, money off of cooking. You know the types
28:38
Speaker 1: of technologies, the types of fields that were always relegated
28:43
Speaker 1: to and limited to. But we're contributing and also owning
28:46
Speaker 1: it and then making it like you're you're you're making
28:49
Speaker 1: it your own business. You're becoming an entrepreneur, entrepreneur, So
28:52
Speaker 1: that's you're like taking it into your own hands and
28:54
Speaker 1: you're like, this is what I'm good at, and then
28:56
Speaker 1: this is what I'm a genius at. So I'm going
28:58
Speaker 1: to make a business off of this, exactly. And one
29:00
Speaker 1: of the best examples of that is is Madam C. J. Walker. Yes,
29:07
Speaker 1: Madam c J. Walker, also known as Sarah breedlove Um.
29:11
Speaker 1: Madam c. J. Walker was her public name, her business
29:15
Speaker 1: name Madam Madam I love It, Madame Delson exactly. So
29:20
Speaker 1: she was an African American entrepreneur, She was a philanthropist,
29:25
Speaker 1: she was an activist, and she is known as the
29:28
Speaker 1: first female self made millionaire in America. Yeah, she did it.
29:34
Speaker 1: She created her empire and her millions off of beauty
29:38
Speaker 1: products for Black women. Right. She saw a need. She
29:41
Speaker 1: saw that there were not enough products specifically targeted towards
29:45
Speaker 1: Black women for their skincare, hair care, nail care needs.
29:48
Speaker 1: And she created products that were healthier than what was
29:53
Speaker 1: out there. That we're safer than what was out there. Definitely,
29:56
Speaker 1: there had to be chemistry involved, there had to be
29:59
Speaker 1: science involve aolved and the marketing and the entrepreneurship, you know.
30:03
Speaker 1: And so Madam C. J. Walker is just one of those.
30:05
Speaker 1: Another a genius, you know that. I don't think it's
30:08
Speaker 1: celebrated enough because she was working in beauty and beauty
30:11
Speaker 1: for black women especially so especially, it's maybe not something
30:15
Speaker 1: that everybody hears about or knows about or sees that. Yeah,
30:20
Speaker 1: sees it as like some type of tech like stem
30:24
Speaker 1: but literally like folks that create their own makeup, like genius,
30:28
Speaker 1: like women of color that do that, because there are
30:30
Speaker 1: a lot of like women of color and like black
30:32
Speaker 1: owns makeup brands and like the actual genius because there's
30:37
Speaker 1: a science behind it. It's not just some like let
30:40
Speaker 1: me put this in a really pretty package and sell
30:42
Speaker 1: it for thirty dollars or however much. You know, It's
30:44
Speaker 1: like there's actually a science going to get the right shade.
30:47
Speaker 1: And especially if you're working with our community, you know,
30:50
Speaker 1: like that my red isn't going to look good on
30:52
Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, but like working with all these
30:56
Speaker 1: different skin shades and like taking into it, taking into
30:58
Speaker 1: account that you want to be inclusive of you're serving
31:00
Speaker 1: like a very broad community. Like that's that's a science,
31:04
Speaker 1: like to find a read that somehow looks good on everyone.
31:06
Speaker 1: Like how little literal science. And I mean we can
31:10
Speaker 1: we can talk about fem tech and talk about social media,
31:13
Speaker 1: yes right, I mean we engage in tech every day
31:17
Speaker 1: all the time, multiple types of tech on multiple platforms,
31:21
Speaker 1: multiple devices. I mean this podcast is fem tech because
31:27
Speaker 1: we have struggled and we have we have really really
31:30
Speaker 1: had to learn how to use a lot of things
31:33
Speaker 1: just to create this podcast. You know, because not because
31:36
Speaker 1: we like I don't want to know about these things,
31:39
Speaker 1: but it's like they weren't talked to us or either
31:41
Speaker 1: we thought maybe it wasn't as important or we're like
31:44
Speaker 1: we get frustrated. No one was patient with us to
31:47
Speaker 1: teach us how to fucking code, you know what I mean?
31:50
Speaker 1: Like even creating on website has been difficult, and you
31:52
Speaker 1: and I have been like in the process of doing
31:54
Speaker 1: that for a few months now. We're working on you know,
31:58
Speaker 1: everything is for us has been like we're literally learning
32:00
Speaker 1: as we go. As we go, and like I think
32:03
Speaker 1: not only this like segment or just as as a whole,
32:07
Speaker 1: like the podcast is fem tech, but even like what
32:10
Speaker 1: you and I do on social media. Oh yeah, absolutely,
32:13
Speaker 1: it's all fem tech. I mean, engaging with your computer,
32:16
Speaker 1: engaging with your phone, engaging with the microphone, with the equipment,
32:21
Speaker 1: you know, with the recording software that we use, all
32:25
Speaker 1: of that is fem tech because we're using it for
32:28
Speaker 1: fem purposes exactly like we're doing it, so it's fem tech.
32:32
Speaker 1: And like that's my thing is I don't care if
32:35
Speaker 1: white people or men find what I'm doing to be
32:40
Speaker 1: valuable or important. You're not the barometer for you. It's
32:43
Speaker 1: not for you. You don't decide what is useful and
32:45
Speaker 1: what is not. You don't decide what is brilliant and
32:48
Speaker 1: what is not a because you have trash taste and
32:51
Speaker 1: I don't trust it, number one, you know, So there's
32:55
Speaker 1: that and number two, we know that what we're creating
32:58
Speaker 1: is brilliant and it's in staying. Yeah, absolutely, you know.
33:02
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna put ourselves in the in the
33:04
Speaker 1: in the tech category, right, And that's new, Like I
33:07
Speaker 1: feel like that's a new kind of thing that we've
33:09
Speaker 1: been talking about that maybe we didn't expect this podcast
33:13
Speaker 1: to turn to go on that route, but like the more,
33:16
Speaker 1: like we had said in the beginning, like the more
33:18
Speaker 1: that we've been thinking about like what fem tech is, like,
33:21
Speaker 1: the more it relates to so many things in our lives. Yeah,
33:24
Speaker 1: And I'm sure like as we continue to think about
33:28
Speaker 1: this topic, as we continue to move through life we
33:32
Speaker 1: hear about family histories, we're going to see more examples
33:36
Speaker 1: of fem tech like in everyday life and in our
33:39
Speaker 1: upbringings and our family histories. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm interested to
33:43
Speaker 1: hear like or to see more. I've been thinking about
33:45
Speaker 1: this a lot because I feel like I don't really
33:47
Speaker 1: have any type of knowledge about like my Mexican side,
33:50
Speaker 1: which is something so new for me. Because I grew
33:53
Speaker 1: up really close to my mom, so my my mom's family,
33:56
Speaker 1: so my Mexican side. But the more that I think
33:58
Speaker 1: about it, like my grandparents are both dead now, you know,
34:02
Speaker 1: and we don't have any type of family history, any
34:05
Speaker 1: type of ancestry because my grandparents died when he was
34:09
Speaker 1: a baby. So and the more that I yeah, I
34:14
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I've been thinking about it a lot lately,
34:16
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I don't have any
34:17
Speaker 1: history in that way, and that's kind of stressing me out.
34:20
Speaker 1: But with my dad's side, there's so much history because
34:22
Speaker 1: we're all here and we're all fucking really close, and
34:25
Speaker 1: it's annoying sometimes. But I know that there's so much
34:28
Speaker 1: like stem and tech in that side and my dad's side,
34:32
Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to, like you think about this
34:34
Speaker 1: more and developed this before. I mean, the other day, right,
34:37
Speaker 1: I'm like in my grandma's house and she I walk in,
34:43
Speaker 1: and my grandma, who's like eighty three years old, she's
34:46
Speaker 1: a little old lady. She's from Mexico and when she
34:49
Speaker 1: came to the US, she was sixteen, and the first
34:52
Speaker 1: thing she did when she came here was working people's houses.
34:55
Speaker 1: You know, and she raised kids for white people and
34:58
Speaker 1: clean houses. And she went to night school and eventually
35:01
Speaker 1: she got her a A her associates degree, and she
35:05
Speaker 1: worked in accounting. She was an accountant. Grandma Natcha was
35:11
Speaker 1: an accountant for many years. And then she would sell
35:13
Speaker 1: like you know, like princess house, like crystal, So she
35:18
Speaker 1: was hustling. She was doing a lot of she would
35:19
Speaker 1: sell tupper wear, all kinds of stuff. But she has
35:22
Speaker 1: a very mathematical mind. The other day, I'm walking into
35:25
Speaker 1: the house and I see her at the table and
35:27
Speaker 1: she has all these papers spread out on the table
35:30
Speaker 1: and I look and she is just adding up all
35:32
Speaker 1: these numbers and doing all these calculations. And she's like
35:36
Speaker 1: doing all this math, like big numbers. And I'm like, Grandma,
35:39
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And she's like, well, I don't
35:41
Speaker 1: have an adding machine, so I do it all in
35:43
Speaker 1: my god stuffy she does so, like all of her bills,
35:48
Speaker 1: her taxes, everything, it's all with a pencil, just by hand.
35:54
Speaker 1: That's how it's been done. That's how it's been done.
35:57
Speaker 1: And so you have this woman who's just this tiny
35:59
Speaker 1: Mexican lady. She's great, who's awesome, and who has done
36:03
Speaker 1: so much in her life and she is so good
36:05
Speaker 1: with numbers and just in her head. And a lot
36:08
Speaker 1: of us, I feel like we were raised on calculators.
36:10
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah we haven't. We don't have that anymore.
36:13
Speaker 1: Yeah for me, Like also, like math has been such
36:15
Speaker 1: so traumatic for me for many of us started right,
36:20
Speaker 1: Oh my god, low key. I think the reason I
36:21
Speaker 1: picked my college majors because I didn't have to take
36:23
Speaker 1: math literally, which also stifled me in so many ways
36:27
Speaker 1: because I was like I wanted to avoid a trauma,
36:30
Speaker 1: so then I went for something else that actually was
36:32
Speaker 1: really traumatic. And my college experience is sucking awful with
36:36
Speaker 1: the department I was in. But that's the story. But
36:39
Speaker 1: um yeah, so for me, like it's like so many
36:42
Speaker 1: of us, like young girls, especially of color, it's like
36:46
Speaker 1: we're taught that we're not good at math, Like girls
36:48
Speaker 1: are naturally not good at science. That's what we're told.
36:50
Speaker 1: Like girls are bad at science, we're better at the humanities,
36:54
Speaker 1: are better at reading and writing. So that's what that's
36:56
Speaker 1: the career that you should stick to. And a lot
36:59
Speaker 1: of times it's not just like necessarily the messages that
37:03
Speaker 1: are given to us. But like how are our math
37:06
Speaker 1: and science programs at our schools, you know, Like we
37:09
Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day when we were
37:11
Speaker 1: first coming up with this idea. When I was in
37:13
Speaker 1: eighth grade, we had four math teachers because they just
37:17
Speaker 1: kept getting cycled out and they would quit and they
37:20
Speaker 1: would leave. Towards the end of my eighth grade year,
37:23
Speaker 1: RPE coach was the math teacher. But that's because they
37:27
Speaker 1: de needed someone to watch. Oh my god, it happened
37:29
Speaker 1: to me one time in high school. The soccer coach
37:32
Speaker 1: became like the sub math teacher. She was teaching us,
37:37
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just like I know that that
37:40
Speaker 1: has an effect, that has a negative effect. I was
37:44
Speaker 1: most traumatized by math in high school. I was taking
37:48
Speaker 1: calculus and the teacher was this white guy I shall
37:52
Speaker 1: not speak his name, like it's horrible, and I just
37:56
Speaker 1: have so many memories of just sobbing like in his
37:59
Speaker 1: office like all the time. That was me. It was
38:02
Speaker 1: my third year of high school. I had a nun,
38:05
Speaker 1: this one girl nun a teacher, and she literally failed
38:10
Speaker 1: so many people, like it became a thing where people
38:13
Speaker 1: were like petitioning to like remove her from the department
38:16
Speaker 1: or from what like being a math teacher, and she
38:19
Speaker 1: was so mean, like I would cry all the time.
38:22
Speaker 1: And I'm positive she knew that I was like a
38:23
Speaker 1: little queer. I'm sure of it. So you think that that,
38:28
Speaker 1: I think for sure. I mean my high school had
38:32
Speaker 1: four hundred people. It was small. It was sucking tiny.
38:34
Speaker 1: Everybody knew, like there weren't very many of us that
38:37
Speaker 1: were queer and young, you know, in high school. So
38:41
Speaker 1: I'm sure she knew. And yeah, math is traumatic. I
38:44
Speaker 1: would cry all the time, like I would like, yeah,
38:47
Speaker 1: I would hyperventily, like I would get anxiety going into
38:49
Speaker 1: her classrooms. I knew I would fail her class. Like
38:53
Speaker 1: every time I took a test, I was like, it
38:54
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I do, I'm gonna fail. Like that
38:56
Speaker 1: was my mentality, you know for maths. It was really shitty.
39:00
Speaker 1: Um yeah, So I like hope that one day with
39:04
Speaker 1: all these brilliant women that are doing like the coding
39:08
Speaker 1: and and they're doing it for young girls, Like I
39:11
Speaker 1: hope that one day young girls like feel like so
39:14
Speaker 1: empowered by STEM and also art. Yeah, you know, absolutely absolutely,
39:19
Speaker 1: I just thought of something. But you know, I feel like,
39:23
Speaker 1: you know, how we hear how back in the day,
39:26
Speaker 1: like historically, like to prevent pregnancy, like women would just
39:29
Speaker 1: put like a little stone. Yes, you know, like I
39:31
Speaker 1: feel like that that is like reproductive tech like back
39:34
Speaker 1: in the day. That's just like ancient, which is also
39:38
Speaker 1: being usual. I can't say it's used for like breath control,
39:41
Speaker 1: but like also you see like this this um interest
39:45
Speaker 1: in like Yoni eggs and just like healing crystals in general.
39:48
Speaker 1: I feel like they're like the conversation right now, which
39:50
Speaker 1: is really good for folks that are using it correctly. Um,
39:54
Speaker 1: but yeah, like a Yoni egg is like used to
39:56
Speaker 1: like strengthen the pelvic floor and like, which is really interesting,
40:01
Speaker 1: and it's it's also like a quote ancient, you know,
40:03
Speaker 1: ancient yeah, but still genius. Yes, And I don't know,
40:07
Speaker 1: there's just something about like I don't know why people
40:10
Speaker 1: hate like on nails so much, like on not long nails,
40:13
Speaker 1: because I cannot when I'm wearing my acrylics. I feel
40:16
Speaker 1: like a fucking like bionic woman. I am the badest.
40:21
Speaker 1: I feel like an android. I feel like Cindy Mayweather,
40:24
Speaker 1: like oh my god, we didn't like we didn't really
40:28
Speaker 1: like talk about this too much, but I remember you
40:31
Speaker 1: sent me like I want to say months ago before
40:34
Speaker 1: fem said, maybe even before this podcast was even an
40:37
Speaker 1: idea in our minds. But I remember you sent me
40:40
Speaker 1: something about a woman that like put her like MetroCard
40:44
Speaker 1: or something in her nail so she would just scan
40:47
Speaker 1: her nail right right, right right for like when she
40:51
Speaker 1: had to get on the metro or whatever. I saw
40:53
Speaker 1: it on Facebook somewhere floating around. But see things like
40:56
Speaker 1: that were brilliant. Girls just come up with ship. But
40:59
Speaker 1: you know what, a lot of times, when like women
41:02
Speaker 1: of color, especially when black women like innovate like that,
41:05
Speaker 1: it's considered like, oh, that's ghetto or that's ratchet, you know,
41:08
Speaker 1: like always it's in the negative right when no, it's innovative.
41:13
Speaker 1: That is so genius because if you think about like
41:15
Speaker 1: all the time you'd save, like say you have the
41:17
Speaker 1: big old purse, right, or you have something and you
41:19
Speaker 1: have to search and whatever you're running late, it's genius.
41:22
Speaker 1: It's in your nail, like absolutely that literally at hand already. Absolutely, No,
41:27
Speaker 1: we innovate all the time, like just as women and
41:30
Speaker 1: like as fams, there's always innovation. There's always new ship,
41:33
Speaker 1: Like there's just everywhere there's brilliance. I also like create
41:39
Speaker 1: or invent. I don't want to say invent whatever. I
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Speaker 1: find ways to make things that I can't do without
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Speaker 1: my name with my nails happen. Does that make sense?
41:48
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm creating another form of doing something,
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Speaker 1: so I don't tell me that I can. That's where
41:54
Speaker 1: I feel like a bionic woman because I'm like, the
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Speaker 1: nail has now become like this functional like extension of
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Speaker 1: my plans. Yeah, it's fucking cool. It's oh my idea,
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Speaker 1: it's really cool, like book transformers, like you know, like
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Speaker 1: fems Like that's that's for me. I'm like, that's the
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Speaker 1: ultimate transformer. The fem is a transformer like in real ways. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I agree. Are and something that we haven't really talked about,
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Speaker 1: which we're kind of coming towards the end, but you know,
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Speaker 1: I guess we can kind of summarize some of our
42:28
Speaker 1: main points right of why we wanted to talk about
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Speaker 1: fem tech, and this is going to be an ongoing
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Speaker 1: conversation because we're going to present fem tech in a
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Speaker 1: workshop as a workshop form eventually and we'll tell you
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Speaker 1: more about the different events we have coming up. But
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Speaker 1: what we want to relay in all of our conversations
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Speaker 1: of fem tech is how historically women in fems and
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Speaker 1: our tech and our innovations right have been channeled into
42:55
Speaker 1: areas that have been most accessible to us. For example, beauty, sewing, weaving,
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Speaker 1: home economics. We don't even really touch on like the
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Speaker 1: brilliance of weaves and how that is actual skill in art.
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Speaker 1: We can save that for the future before another come back, yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure. And then the other the other idea that
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Speaker 1: we really want to push is that fem tech is
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Speaker 1: undervalued and has been for a long time. And one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons is due to what fem phobia, fem
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Speaker 1: phobia always in tech, fem phobia in general, yes, in school,
43:28
Speaker 1: in life and education. Right, if a little girl has
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Speaker 1: an idea, like an engineering idea and it involves baking,
43:36
Speaker 1: that might get shot down, right versus the little boy
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Speaker 1: who wants to do something with cars that might be
43:41
Speaker 1: considered more engineering oriented or check oriented, you know. Um.
43:46
Speaker 1: And then theem tech and economics like intermingle with entrepreneurship. Yeah, absolutely,
43:54
Speaker 1: there's I mean we touched a lot about that about
43:56
Speaker 1: like the like informal economy, in formal businesses, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: creating like your own beauty salons, your own type of
44:06
Speaker 1: like giving I don't want well, yeah, I guess you
44:09
Speaker 1: kind of aren't giving back to your community in that
44:10
Speaker 1: way because you're creating this like communal space where folks
44:13
Speaker 1: can you know, practice our self care if that's what
44:16
Speaker 1: it is for them, or their adornment, their worship, whatever
44:18
Speaker 1: it is for them. You know. However, manifest Um, there's
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Speaker 1: so much fem brilliance and that is a whole lot,
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Speaker 1: and I want to be clear, we're not saying that
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Speaker 1: the only fem tech or the only fem brilliance is
44:30
Speaker 1: in beauty and now we're seeing the actual I mean,
44:33
Speaker 1: we're saying that there's so much more, but they're like
44:36
Speaker 1: where it has been accessible and where it's been channeled into.
44:39
Speaker 1: I only want to celebrate it exactly. We're exactly and
44:42
Speaker 1: honor it, but also we recognize, like using our examples
44:47
Speaker 1: in the first part of this, like the ways that
44:50
Speaker 1: it's actual, you know, being like produced in like actual
44:54
Speaker 1: stem ways like bioid, like biotech in biotech. Yeah, so yeah,
45:01
Speaker 1: we are not just like hair nails and makeup. We
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Speaker 1: are so much more that happens to be how we
45:07
Speaker 1: adorn ourselves which is brilliant and beautiful and just as
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Speaker 1: brilliant as you know STEM because it is it is STEM. Yeah,
45:15
Speaker 1: so recognize that, appreciate, recognize, give credit where credit is
45:21
Speaker 1: due always, and when you get your nails and pay
45:24
Speaker 1: your nail tex tipto nail, those are geniuses who are
45:29
Speaker 1: creating functional art on your person. You know, Yes, always
45:35
Speaker 1: took well. Any type of service that you're getting done,
45:37
Speaker 1: any type of always took well because not only did
45:40
Speaker 1: they work on you, but they're going to work on
45:43
Speaker 1: so many other people it might not tip them well,
45:45
Speaker 1: which they probably don't. So you know, think about the
45:49
Speaker 1: support people who are working, who are working hard, Support
45:55
Speaker 1: women of color, immigrants or immigrants, leer folks, people that
45:58
Speaker 1: are creating their they're creating support them. Absolutely. Yeah, So
46:04
Speaker 1: we want to hear what you think about fem tech. Yeah,
46:06
Speaker 1: because I'm sure, you know, like the few examples that
46:10
Speaker 1: we were able to give from our life and our research,
46:13
Speaker 1: I'm positive that there are a lot of more headers
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Speaker 1: out there, that there are a lot of people out
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Speaker 1: there fems with just like a multitude of examples and ideas. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited as always. You know, um, you can listen
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Speaker 1: to us on SoundCloud, on iTunes, leave comments, nives, like things,
46:34
Speaker 1: share things. We love reading all the comments and messages
46:38
Speaker 1: you'll leave. It's really really exciting. It's really exciting. We
46:42
Speaker 1: get so high when they have new comments. We sound
46:46
Speaker 1: like screenshots to each other, by the way, so seeing
46:49
Speaker 1: like maybe they're not going to read it now, we
46:50
Speaker 1: read it and most likely we respond because we always respond,
46:55
Speaker 1: which we try our best to always respond. So I
46:59
Speaker 1: think we want to do is we want to ask
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Speaker 1: you guys, if you have examples of fem tech in
47:04
Speaker 1: your life, if you are a fem techie yourself, we're fees.
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Speaker 1: If you're a fem techie, that's the hashtag we want
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Speaker 1: to use, fem tech. Fem techi comment on our posts.
47:17
Speaker 1: If you want to repost anything onto your profile, make
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Speaker 1: sure you use hashtag look at radio, hashtag fem tech,
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Speaker 1: hashtag brown girl hour, hashtag brown girl our um and
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Speaker 1: share with us the tech that you were brought up with,
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Speaker 1: the fem tech that that the fims before you utilize.
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Speaker 1: We want to hear all about it absolutely, So thanks
47:36
Speaker 1: again for tuning in. We will see you next time.
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