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SCHOOL SHOOTER 14, MURDERS 4, LAUGHS-OUT-LOUD AT SURVIVOR · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with a treen boy turned school shooter and
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  Speaker 1: his sick outburst in court. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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  Speaker 1: crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. A boy fourteen who guns down two classmates
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  Speaker 1: and two teachers shoots them all dead. Laughs giggles in
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  Speaker 1: court as a survivor reads a victim impact statement. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. A teen guns down four people dead
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  Speaker 1: in a rampage in his high school breaks out laughing
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  Speaker 1: when the judge told a survivor to slow down while
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  Speaker 1: she was speaking. She was reading her victim impact statement
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  Speaker 1: in court that sent Colt Gray, now sixteen, into fits
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  Speaker 1: of laughter in the courtroom. Natalie Griffith, the surviving victim,
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  Speaker 1: was trying to recount how the attack left her unable
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  Speaker 1: to use her left hand. She was one of the
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  Speaker 1: nine people injured in a bloodbath at Appalachi High That
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  Speaker 1: was the number injured. Four or murdered, two classmates and
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  Speaker 1: two teachers. This is what we know.
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, Appalachi High School in winder Georgia, fourteen year
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  Speaker 2: old Cold Gray steps out of his algebra classroom Moments later,
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  Speaker 2: chaos unfolds as gunshots ring out.
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  Speaker 1: Every parent in America's head is spinning. How did he
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  Speaker 1: get in school with a gun? Why was he let
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  Speaker 1: out of to wander the halls un chaperoned? And did
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  Speaker 1: the school know ahead of time that he was an
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  Speaker 1: eminent threat to the other students? This as we learn
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  Speaker 1: he had been underwatched by the FBI and nothing was
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  Speaker 1: done by local authorities. And how does his father end
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  Speaker 1: up in jail? Maybe it's because he gave his.
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  Speaker 3: Troubled son an r for Christmas assault rifle with me
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  Speaker 3: an all Star panel to make sense of what we
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  Speaker 3: are learning now, but straight out to special guests joining
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  Speaker 3: us as part.
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  Speaker 1: Of, as I said, an all Star panel.
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  Speaker 4: I want to first speak to.
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  Speaker 1: Sonia Turner joining us from winder Georgia, mother of two
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  Speaker 1: girls at the school. Ms Turner, thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is going to run a chill down
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  Speaker 1: your spine, but listen.
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  Speaker 6: The door flew open and all I saw was when
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  Speaker 6: I turned around for a few seconds, was a figure
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  Speaker 6: with a pretty large gun aiming at all the students.
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  Speaker 4: Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Turner, when you think about your girls in that school.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that they are alive today is a miracle.
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  Speaker 4: And when that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Says, yeah, we got to be quick, I guess so
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  Speaker 1: because there's an active shooter into school.
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  Speaker 4: What happened?
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  Speaker 5: So I had just dropped my oldest daughter, she's fifteen,
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  Speaker 5: about to be sixteen, off she's a sophomore, about forty
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  Speaker 5: five minutes maybe less before this happened. She was late
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  Speaker 5: going in that day. My other daughter was already there.
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  Speaker 5: And then I was sitting down to rest because I
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  Speaker 5: was still supposed to be on bed rest from a
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  Speaker 5: major abdominal surgery the week before, and I got a
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  Speaker 5: text that said, Mom, we're on lockdown. I hear gunshots.
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  Speaker 5: And I think some of your producers had seen that
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  Speaker 5: text at the Washington Post to put together in a video.
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  Speaker 5: It's word by word. They left the typos even so
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  Speaker 5: I started texting with her, trying to calm her, trying
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  Speaker 5: to reassure her. I got the kids into a group text,
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  Speaker 5: so I had Izzy and Abby both in that text
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  Speaker 5: message together. In between that, I'm calling my husband telling
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  Speaker 5: him to go go to the kids. He was on
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  Speaker 5: a job site not too far away. The first text
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  Speaker 5: for my daughter came in at ten twenty three, which
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  Speaker 5: is actually when I think they're reporting that everything started.
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  Speaker 5: She was on that end of the hall. She wasn't
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  Speaker 5: on that exact hall, but she was on that end
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  Speaker 5: of the building. So I'm texting with her. I'm texting
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  Speaker 5: my media. Other texts went to my pastor. My pastor
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  Speaker 5: ended up getting on the phone with us in praying.
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  Speaker 5: While I'm texting my daughters, they're telling me they're scared.
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  Speaker 5: They hear gunshots. I'm having them assess their you know, location,
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  Speaker 5: can you get anywhere safer? What can you do? Like
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  Speaker 5: we're coming. They're telling me they hear sirens. I'm just
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  Speaker 5: reassuring them that that's help on the way in the
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  Speaker 5: meantime of texting my daughters and keeping that line of
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  Speaker 5: communication open. I was born and raised here in winder
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  Speaker 5: This is my home. I've lived here forty five years.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone I know had someone at that school that day.
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  Speaker 5: The sea of law enforcement, you could just hear it.
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  Speaker 5: It was bone chilling, and all I could do I
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  Speaker 5: texted the Lord's prayer. It's not all I could do.
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  Speaker 5: It was the thing to do. I think the thing
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  Speaker 5: that stands out to me the most right now that
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  Speaker 5: I haven't really wrapped my head around is well, there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of things I haven't wrapped my head around.
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  Speaker 5: But in the prayer with my pastor, which she did
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  Speaker 5: not even remember, I'm sure you've thought most of these
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  Speaker 5: don't end with the shooter alive.
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  Speaker 4: In this case, my pastor.
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  Speaker 5: Prayed with me for him to stop in his tracks
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  Speaker 5: whatever he was doing and lay that gun down. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you the timing is spot on. You'll never
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  Speaker 5: convince me that wasn't my God that day that saved
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  Speaker 5: those lives. And the quick response from our law enforcement,
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  Speaker 5: who have trained so hard for this moment that they
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  Speaker 5: hoped they'd never.
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  Speaker 1: Have to use sown y up when you said you
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  Speaker 1: are texting Lord's prayer?
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  Speaker 4: What else could you do? There was nothing more you
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  Speaker 4: could do.
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  Speaker 5: It was the first thing I needed to do. It
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  Speaker 5: wasn't the last, It was the first, and I have
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  Speaker 5: somehow become a mama to the mamas. It's a long story.
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  Speaker 5: It started back during COVID where I'd created a group
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  Speaker 5: where eight thousand moms have come together and stayed together
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  Speaker 5: since twenty twenty, and that has I was inspired to
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  Speaker 5: do that group for moms of parents at Appalachi, and
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  Speaker 5: I've started out online and I'm watching the stories feed
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  Speaker 5: in and I'm hearing the pain and their voices and
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  Speaker 5: what they need. And it's a place that we can
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  Speaker 5: all safely come and try to share what is working,
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  Speaker 5: what is not working, what our students are going through,
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  Speaker 5: how we're helping. I have friends who were bus drivers
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  Speaker 5: who were trapped sitting there waiting to evacuate that school
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  Speaker 5: and get those babies home while their kids were there,
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  Speaker 5: and they couldn't do anything. I have friends that were
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  Speaker 5: teachers in the school immediately next door. One of those,
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  Speaker 5: her daughter was waiting on this child to get back
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  Speaker 5: to go to the bathroom, and one of her classmates
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  Speaker 5: just happened to get up to go let him in
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  Speaker 5: and looked out and saw that he had a gun
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  Speaker 5: and did not open that door. She saved that entire
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  Speaker 5: classroom that day.
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  Speaker 1: Sonia, when you get the text, when you get a text, Mommy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so scared.
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  Speaker 4: What went through your mind.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't sure if I was going to see my
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  Speaker 5: kids at the end of the day. I kept thinking,
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  Speaker 5: this can't be our story, this can't be our town.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't happen here, which I think everybody thinks I
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  Speaker 5: just knew that. I kept telling them that Mommy was coming, God,
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  Speaker 5: he was coming, We were coming. Obviously we knew we
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  Speaker 5: couldn't get in that school, but they needed the reassurance
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  Speaker 5: that it didn't matter. We were coming and everybody was coming.
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  Speaker 5: There were parents that happened to be passing the school.
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  Speaker 5: I live a mile and a quarter from the school
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  Speaker 5: to my subdivision entrance. There were parents that were just
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  Speaker 5: in the area that have kids in those schools, that
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  Speaker 5: saw the sea of law enforcement and paramedics and firefighters,
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  Speaker 5: and they were freaking out because they didn't know what
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  Speaker 5: was going on, or they had kids in all three
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  Speaker 5: schools of the cluster and didn't know which school to
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  Speaker 5: go to first.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us. In addition to Sonia Turner, the mom of
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  Speaker 1: two girls at the school, is another Atlanta parent with
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  Speaker 1: children in the Atlanta schools. And I'm wondering, straight out
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  Speaker 1: to Chris Hubbard is joining us, how does what Sonya
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  Speaker 1: Turner is saying, how does that affect all the other
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  Speaker 1: parents in the area and frankly across the country. When
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  Speaker 1: you heard about the schools shooting right here under your.
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  Speaker 4: Nose, what goes through your mind?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how can you keep sending your children to
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  Speaker 1: school when this happens over and over and over. There
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  Speaker 1: were warnings, there were calls, there were reports, but yet
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  Speaker 1: thirteen shot Nanta.
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  Speaker 7: It's heart wrenching. Yeah. I was coming out of a
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  Speaker 7: meeting and I saw the news alerts on my phone
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  Speaker 7: and then I was like, another school shooting. This is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: And then I saw it in.
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  Speaker 7: Georgia and my heart dropped even further. And Sonya, I
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  Speaker 7: can't imagine what you're going through and what those family
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  Speaker 7: are going through.
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  Speaker 4: Too close to.
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  Speaker 7: Home in winder Georgia, too close to home here in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 7: and it's just too much the norm in this country,
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  Speaker 7: and it's hard to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when I'm looking at these texts, I text
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  Speaker 1: my children all during the day, even though they have
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  Speaker 1: a no phone policy. I think, well, somehow during the
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  Speaker 1: day they might check.
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  Speaker 4: Their phone and not get caught.
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  Speaker 1: But Sonya, when you have your child saying Mommy, I'm scared,
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  Speaker 1: and all you can say that is stay down, stay hidden.
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  Speaker 1: I will come and get you. And then when you
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  Speaker 1: get there, you can't get close to the school.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, it's paralyzing again.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us in addition to Sonya Turner and Chris Hubbard.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Chase McGee is joining US senior Newsroom producer
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  Speaker 1: G P B. Chase, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: What do we know about exactly what happened that month?
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  Speaker 1: But before you start, take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 8: It approximately ten twenty am this morning, the Barrett County
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  Speaker 8: Sheriff's Office received alerts about reports of an active shooter
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  Speaker 8: and radio traffic from school resource officers concerning the same
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  Speaker 8: concern or having the same concern.
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  Speaker 9: All of our teachers are armed with a form of
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  Speaker 9: an ID called scentigics, and Scientigics alarms us and alerts
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  Speaker 9: the law enforcement office. After buttons are pressed on an
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  Speaker 9: ID and it alerts us that there is an active
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  Speaker 9: situation at the school for whatever reason. And that was
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  Speaker 9: pressed and we've had that about a week.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Chase McGee, let me understand, Let me understand what
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  Speaker 1: I'm hearing. So all the teachers are equipped with some
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  Speaker 1: type of device on their person or at their desk
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  Speaker 1: and if they press it, that sends out the alarm.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, yeah, that's right, Nancy, Thanks for having me to
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  Speaker 10: my understanding. A lot of schools in Northeast Georgia started
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  Speaker 10: rolling out this program. I believe these schools and had
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  Speaker 10: these cards for about two days on their person, So
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  Speaker 10: that's two days training ahead of the shooting. And it
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  Speaker 10: essentially works like a you press it and it lets
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  Speaker 10: law enforcement know where in the buildings that there's this
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  Speaker 10: incident going on. And in early press conferences they credit
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  Speaker 10: that and school resource officers on campus with a really
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  Speaker 10: quick response time to stop the shooting.
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  Speaker 1: School resource officers on campus and one student you heard
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  Speaker 1: Sonya Turner, her children.
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  Speaker 4: At that school state that one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the children had gone out to the bathroom and
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  Speaker 1: was coming back in as I understand, and sees the
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  Speaker 1: shooter in the hall, that child that close to death
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  Speaker 1: and would not let him in the door.
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  Speaker 4: Listen to Chris Hoseygbi, two.
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  Speaker 8: School resource officers assigned here to the school who immediately
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  Speaker 8: encountered the subject. Within just minutes of this report going out.
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  Speaker 9: The shooter was armed and our school resource officer engaged him,
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  Speaker 9: and the shooter quickly realized that if he did not
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  Speaker 9: give up, that it would end with an ois an officer.
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  Speaker 9: In Ball Shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray, Colt Gray sixteen breaks out
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  Speaker 1: laughing as his shooting victim Natalie Griffith describes how her
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  Speaker 1: life has been changed forever by his gunning rampage. This
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  Speaker 1: is what happened in the halls of Appalachi High.
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  Speaker 2: A fourteen year old Appalachi High School student steps out
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  Speaker 2: of his algebra class, returning moments later. Classmates refused to
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  Speaker 2: open the door after seeing the student is now armed
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  Speaker 2: with an assault style rifle.
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  Speaker 4: What do we know about what happened that morning?
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  Speaker 1: Yet another school shooting, and now the father of the shooter,
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  Speaker 1: Col Gray, has also been arrested. The grandfather calling him
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  Speaker 1: pure evil.
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  Speaker 4: The home of Colt Gray.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds chaotic, but can we just focus on the thirteen
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  Speaker 1: people shot by Colt Gray? Straight back out to Chase
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  Speaker 1: mcgheey newsroom producer GPB.
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  Speaker 4: Chase again that morning? How did it unfold?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah?
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  Speaker 10: So what we know from before the shooting? Over this
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  Speaker 10: past weekend, we've heard reporting that Marcy Gray, the mother
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  Speaker 10: of Colt Gray, had received an alarming text from her
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  Speaker 10: son and then gone on to contact school administrators. We
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  Speaker 10: know that call lasted about ten minutes according to call records,
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  Speaker 10: and what was said is yet unclear, But we do
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  Speaker 10: know that a school iministrator responded to the classroom where
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  Speaker 10: cult Gray was supposed to be. There was some confusion
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  Speaker 10: with another student who has a very similar name, apparently,
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  Speaker 10: and the school administrator went to leave the classroom after
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  Speaker 10: not finding either student in the classroom. And that was
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  Speaker 10: just moments before the shooting started.
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  Speaker 1: To Sonya Turner joining us, the mom of two little
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  Speaker 1: girls at the school, Sonya, did your children know either
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  Speaker 1: of them?
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  Speaker 4: Know cult Gray?
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  Speaker 1: No, he's not.
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  Speaker 5: He's not from here. He had only he had been
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  Speaker 5: enrolled to my knowledge, two weeks. However, he had only
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  Speaker 5: been in the school for maybe a total of two days.
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  Speaker 5: I have a friend that saw him the day before
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  Speaker 5: in the attendant's office when they were you know, interviewed,
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  Speaker 5: like you know, processing him as a new student. And
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  Speaker 5: then that was literally his second day maybe in our school.
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  Speaker 5: He's not one of our students.
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  Speaker 1: So what we have heard about him being bullied and
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  Speaker 1: call names.
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  Speaker 4: Did not happen at this school. Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 5: I was contacted by again, I've been here forty five years.
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  Speaker 5: I know people that talked with this individual and I
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  Speaker 5: refuse to say his name as a very young child,
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  Speaker 5: and they begged for their parents to get him help.
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  Speaker 5: They begged for the system to get him help. He
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  Speaker 5: struggled with mental illness from as early as you can
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  Speaker 5: fathom of going into a school system.
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  Speaker 8: Listen, therefore, individuals who are deceased from this incident, Nine
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  Speaker 8: that have been taken to local hospitals with various injuries.
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  Speaker 8: Those that lost their life in this tragic event. Mason Shermerhorn,
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  Speaker 8: aged fourteen, who is a student here at the school,
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  Speaker 8: Christian Angelo who was fourteen, also a student here at
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  Speaker 8: this go. Richard Aspenwall I'm not sure of his age,
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  Speaker 8: but he was a teacher here at the school. And
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  Speaker 8: Christina E Marie I'm sorry for my pronunciation, who was
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  Speaker 8: also a teacher at the school.
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  Speaker 1: The victims four dead and yet another school shooting.
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  Speaker 4: To Chris Hubbard, Atlanta. Father with children.
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  Speaker 1: In school right now, how often do one of your
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  Speaker 1: children say, you know, when you're asking them what happened today?
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  Speaker 4: Who did you have lunch with them all that?
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  Speaker 1: Have you heard them say, yeah, that kid is there's
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  Speaker 1: something off about that kid? He fill in the blank
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  Speaker 1: or sheep fill in the blank. I remember one child
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  Speaker 1: all the way back to I believe it was second
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  Speaker 1: or third grade, was drawing pictures of hanging people and
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  Speaker 1: shooting people, and alarm bells were going off in my hit.
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  Speaker 1: It happens all the time. But Chris, how often do
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  Speaker 1: we think, oh, Okay, that troubled child is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a school sheoter we got to kick him out.
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  Speaker 4: How often do parents actually think it's going to go
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  Speaker 4: this far?
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  Speaker 7: Well, Nancy, unfortunately, with the way things are going, you know,
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  Speaker 7: that's something that comes to mind now. But I agree
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  Speaker 7: with you, that's not something you ever considered to happen
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  Speaker 7: at your school. Is happening way too often, and we're
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  Speaker 7: missing the signs. We're missing the mental health, the troubled
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  Speaker 7: signs that are completely obvious, that are making direct threats,
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  Speaker 7: you know, really going out of their way to cry
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  Speaker 7: for help in some other way, and we're not doing
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  Speaker 7: anything about it.
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  Speaker 4: We're not doing enough about it. Yeah, I hear you, Chris,
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  Speaker 4: And I'm weighing that out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm listening to what Sonya Turner has just told us
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  Speaker 1: that a teacher of Cole Gray all the way back
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  Speaker 1: years ago was saying, this kid is troubled, but I
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  Speaker 1: got a balance his troubles, his inner demons, with the
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  Speaker 1: dead students and the dead teachers.
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  Speaker 4: So how was he allowed out of class? How did
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  Speaker 4: that happen? Listen?
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  Speaker 12: Or why the school allowed this boy to come and
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  Speaker 12: go from the class all the time. He would go
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  Speaker 12: and sign up for the restroom pass, leave the class
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  Speaker 12: and come back sometimes and sometimes never come back. He
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  Speaker 12: has been wandering this school.
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  Speaker 1: So why was he allowed out? You know, my son
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  Speaker 1: has gotten in trouble at school. One time, it was
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth grade. I said, son, what did you do?
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  Speaker 1: Just assuming you know something had gone horribly wrong? He went, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: I went to the library.
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  Speaker 4: I know you, John, David.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with going to the library is I didn't
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  Speaker 1: ask first? Big trouble, Big trouble because he went to
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  Speaker 1: the library at the school. So how is this kid
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  Speaker 1: wandering around with a gun? To Chase Grolnick joining us
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  Speaker 1: out of Dallas, Texas Active Shooter Expert managing principle for
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  Speaker 1: Active Shooter Prevention Project, Chris, wouldn't that be written in bedrock.
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  Speaker 4: That students don't wander freely in the hall?
• 20:18
  Speaker 13: And that's absolutely correct, And the protocols only work if
• 20:22
  Speaker 13: we use them. And as you said at the beginning
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: of the show, the school was notified by the mother
• 20:26
  Speaker 13: of some type of threat. And if the administration is
• 20:29
  Speaker 13: going to go to the room, you would think the
• 20:30
  Speaker 13: school resource officers would too. And while I think the
• 20:33
  Speaker 13: police did an excellent job here, I again will come
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: back and say, for the last ten years, we cannot
• 20:39
  Speaker 13: respond our way out of this, and they keep responding
• 20:42
  Speaker 13: to these instead of preventing them, and we have to
• 20:45
  Speaker 13: shift as a whole nation, just like we did for fires.
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: We haven't let a child die in a school fire
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: in seventy years. We can do this, we just want
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: we don't want to.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Another issue that Chris Grolnik has just brought up, Chase
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: McGee is the specter that has reared its ugly head
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that the mother of this childhoo has I mean, this family,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the dad gives him an R when he's got all
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: these troubled thoughts and is expressing them, and the mother
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: has wrapped sheet as long as I seventy five for
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Pete's sake, and neighbors say she locks the children out
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: of the house.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: When she's angry.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, that said Chase McGhee, What can you tell me,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Chase joining us from GPB, what can you tell me
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: about the mom's claim? She texted a school contacting them
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: just before the shooting happened, before her son opens fire,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: shooting thirteen people, students and teachers.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: What does she text them?
• 21:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we don't know quite get the contents of the
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: conversation and any requests for call records. That's a forwarded
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: to the Piedmont Circuit here in northeast Georgia where the
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: trial is going to be held. But we do have
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: a photo proofs from a call record that it's ten
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: minute call did go out from the mother to the
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: school system.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Oh well, well, white, white, white, white, hold on, Chase,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: did you just say.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: A ten minute call?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: If they had acted immediately, could anyone's life have been saved?
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Chase?
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: I can't speak to that, but we do know that
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: the call took place about thirty minutes before the shooting started,
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: and judging by the reports that administrator made it to
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: the classroom, it sounds like some response took place. Now,
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: I can't speak to the idea of a lockdown or
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: anything other than that.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: As shots ring out in the halls of Georgia's Appalachi
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: High School, students and teachers take cover as a teen
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: shooter opens fire, a.
• 22:50
  Speaker 14: School administrator goes looking for Cold Gray. After receiving a
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: panicked call from mom Marcy Gray, Gray says someone needs
• 22:59
  Speaker 14: to find and check on her son immediately. It's an
• 23:02
  Speaker 14: extreme emergency. Minutes before that cult, a school counselor informed
• 23:07
  Speaker 14: Gray that cult mentioned school shootings in their meeting that morning.
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: Marcy Gray also received a text from our son, reading,
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: I'm sorry, Mom.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: We are understanding that the discussion of school shootings happened
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that morning in a meeting. Sonia Turner, do you know
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: anything about the meeting that morning?
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: We're school shootings were discussed.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know specifics of what was discussed, but I
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: do know they intook him the day before.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I think it was they in took him. What does
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: that mean?
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Just as because he was a new student. I think
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: they met with him to sit down to determine what
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: his needs were. Our counseling staff is excellent with trying
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: to make sure all of our children's needs are met.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Joining us now Crime online dot Com investigation reporter Sydney Sumner, Sidney,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: let me understand something Sidney did. Was there a meeting
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that morning, was a school counselor, and in that meeting
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the morning of the shooting thirteen shot, fourth dead. Colt
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Gray mentioned a school shooting.
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: That's what I'm understanding. And yes, there was some sort
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: of meeting with the school counselor that morning where Colt
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: mentioned school shooting. And it's unclear exactly when Marcy Gray
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: was informed of this. It seems like the school counselor
• 24:37
  Speaker 11: informed Marcy Gray of this during that ten minute call
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: at nine to fifty am from report says she learned
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: this before. We're not exactly sure what led to Marcy
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: Gray's call to the school that morning.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Hold On said, said the school shooter, Colt Gray contacted
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: his mother and said something that was so disturbing. She
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: called the school and had a ten minute conversation with
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: them before they went out with the warning.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: So a lot of time lost, you know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Brian Claypool is joining us for now criminal defense attorney
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and specifically lived through the Mandalay Mass shooting and lived
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to tell the tale. Brian Claypool, I mean, what more
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: will it take for Pete's sake? Did you hear Hubbard
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a few moments ago? Every time you see your school
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: child of school, you're wondering what's going to happen today?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: When your child at the supper table, says, God, that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: kid's really off. There's something wrong. You wonder is that
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: going to be a school shooter? I mean that morning, Claypool,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: this shooter is talking about school shootings.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: You heard Sonya Turner, who is living through this, her children.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: We're in the school, and it goes way back to
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: when he was in elementary school.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, what more has to be done? Claypool.
• 26:10
  Speaker 15: First of all, I want to share with Sonya that
• 26:14
  Speaker 15: this is horrific, but in time, being a survivor of
• 26:18
  Speaker 15: a mass shooting myself, She's going to realize and her
• 26:21
  Speaker 15: daughter's going to realize that there's a bigger cause for
• 26:24
  Speaker 15: her daughter surviving and her family going through this. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 15: part of that cause is going to be what I've
• 26:30
  Speaker 15: tried to do the last five or six years is
• 26:33
  Speaker 15: to make change throughout our country to try to safeguard
• 26:37
  Speaker 15: not only schools, but all public places that we go to.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: And how do we do that?
• 26:42
  Speaker 15: You know, Nancy, shortly after the Vegas shooting, when I
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: thought I was going to die and I saw other
• 26:47
  Speaker 15: people on the ground shot and dealt with, you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 15: remorse for not helping them, and similar to what Sonya
• 26:53
  Speaker 15: went through too. I sent a text to my daughters.
• 26:56
  Speaker 15: I'm a single parent. I've got two daughters now, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 15: my teen daughter at the time it was two lesters.
• 27:02
  Speaker 15: So I texted her mom and I just said, you know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 15: if I get killed, you know, you know, send my
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: love to Toulana, my daughter. But the thing is that
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: nobody should have to go through that, and the way
• 27:17
  Speaker 15: that we make change is not through. What I was
• 27:19
  Speaker 15: trying to get at before I got emotional was I
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: thought that this they're a ban on, you know, assault
• 27:26
  Speaker 15: weapons with help the first year or two. And I've
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: changed my thought because of what we're seeing in this
• 27:31
  Speaker 15: shooting too, that in nearly every school shooting and nearly
• 27:35
  Speaker 15: every mass shooting Nancy, there are red flags. There are
• 27:40
  Speaker 15: massive red flags here and until local schools. It's not
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: just a federal issue. Everybody's quick to blame the federal government.
• 27:48
  Speaker 15: What are we doing to solve these This is a
• 27:51
  Speaker 15: local issue too.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Luck could have been done here.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Well, why you know what, Claypool, You're right, the FBI
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: had been.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Watching cult Gray.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: They contacted, as you are prescribing, local authorities.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Who did an interview, and nothing was done.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Doctor Jillian Peterson joining me forensic psychologists and the executive
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: director of the Violence Prevention Project, author of the Violence
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Project How to Stop a Mass shooting Epidemic.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, Doctor Jillian Peterson lay it on me.
• 28:27
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it's so heartbreaking and difficult to hear
• 28:31
  Speaker 16: the story because we've studied these school shootings and it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 16: the same thing over and over again. It's a troubled
• 28:38
  Speaker 16: young man who's a student of the school. He's making threats,
• 28:42
  Speaker 16: he's posting things online, he's telling people things that are
• 28:45
  Speaker 16: going to happen. The people are around him are concerned,
• 28:49
  Speaker 16: and still every warning sign gets missed when this happens.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: So, doctor Jillian Peterson, they had a meeting with the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: counselor that morning and he's talking about school shootings. Sonya
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Turner says she knows and instruct her that dealt with
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Colt Gray years ago, same thing. Then he's like, uh vesuvius,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: waiting to erupt. Yet nothing happened. The parents aren't going
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to do anything. What they did is given an ar
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: an ar an assault rifle. So that's not helpful. The
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: only thing I believe that saved lives at all. And
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I think Sonya Turns backing me up on This is
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a school administrator and one of the students listen.
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: A school administrator goes looking for Cold Gray after receiving
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: a panicked call from mom Marcy Gray. Gray says someone
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: needs to find and check on her son immediately, it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: an extreme emergency. Minutes before that call, is school counselor
• 29:47
  Speaker 14: informed Gray that Colt mentioned school shootings in their meeting
• 29:51
  Speaker 14: that morning. Marcy Gray also received a text from her son, reading,
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: I'm sorry Mom.
• 29:58
  Speaker 17: The assault rifle gifted to Great Christmas this last year
• 30:00
  Speaker 17: is reportedly the same gun used in the attack on
• 30:02
  Speaker 17: Appalachi High School. Many are questioning how the fourteen year
• 30:05
  Speaker 17: old managed to get the large gun into the school.
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: Apalachi does not have metal detectors, but the school does
• 30:11
  Speaker 17: not provide lockers to every student. While in ar fifteen
• 30:14
  Speaker 17: will break down into two pieces, they are still too
• 30:17
  Speaker 17: large to conceal in a typical school backpack.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: So how did he get the gun into the school?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: How did he transport it? How did he get out
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: in the hall with it? Did he stash it somewhere
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he was out? According to Sonya Turner, whose children go
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to the school with a legitimate bathroom pass, so he
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: was not wandering the halls as has.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Been characterized to us. That's not what happened.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: He had a bathroom pass, so how did he get
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the gun? Joining us an all star panel to make
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now to mary Lynn
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Ryan joining us VP at GPB Mary Lynn in the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: last hours the father who grace father, which is quite
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a departure in American jurisprudence. It has happened before, but
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: very rarely the father has been put behind bars.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Why that is a.
• 31:11
  Speaker 18: Good question, Nancy. We asked that right away, because there's
• 31:14
  Speaker 18: only been one other case in Michigan where a parent
• 31:17
  Speaker 18: was held liable for that for a gun used by
• 31:20
  Speaker 18: a student. But I talked to law enforcement at the
• 31:22
  Speaker 18: federal level after this, and I was told that it
• 31:26
  Speaker 18: was because the father had knowledge of his mental health
• 31:30
  Speaker 18: and still provided him with a possessing a weapon and
• 31:34
  Speaker 18: knew that he was in that state and those were
• 31:37
  Speaker 18: available to him. So that you're a lawyer, a very
• 31:40
  Speaker 18: good lawyer, Nancy, and I know you've done many stories
• 31:42
  Speaker 18: on this, and that I believe is the reason why
• 31:44
  Speaker 18: they're able to charge the father with accessory pretty much
• 31:48
  Speaker 18: to this crime. So it will be a top story
• 31:52
  Speaker 18: here in Georgia, and the gun debate rages on again
• 31:56
  Speaker 18: as we head into this election, and it's at the
• 31:59
  Speaker 18: top of mine today.
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: Hold on, hold on.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want to make this at all about politics
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I want to save lives.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't care who's going to use this as some
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: rhetoric right for an election to further their own interest.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you're right, you are right, Marilynn.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Listen, if something like that happened.
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: For a year or something like that reported, yeah, it
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: is hell your head, tell teacher telling them Franks Owe
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: never said something. So you haven't used this cord in
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: a few months, and you're you're you're saying you didn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: say anything.
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: Only thing I have is tea song. But I just
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: go around there and watching hells.
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: Do you have weapons in the house?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Are they accessible to him?
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: They are?
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: I mean there's nothing, nothing loaded, but they are down.
• 32:43
  Speaker 15: Okay, we do we actually we do a lot of shooting.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: We do a lot of deer, and he shot his
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: first deer this year.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Did you know so?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Like I'm pretty much.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: In shock, to be honest with you, Well, I'm a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: little pissed off to be even really honest with you.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: In fact, if that is what it was said, he's
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: pissed off.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: The father is pissed off. Well, this may help you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: understand it a little bit more. Earlier, we heard Brian
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Claypool talking about lots of red flags.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: That interview was back.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: In May twenty twenty three, when the Jackson County Deputy
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: sheriff went out to speak to Colet Gray's father and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he's pissed.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: The father's pissed about.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: What And yes, the guns were easily accessible. To Sidney
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Sumner joining us crimeoline dot Com investigative reporter, it's my
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: understanding that it's a lot more than just accessory to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the crime that the father, Colin Gray is facing four
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: counts of manslaughter and two counts of second degree murder,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and he claims he gave his son an a R
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: fifteen style rifle that was then used in the massacre
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: at Appalachia i Ante.
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: That's absolutely cool. What we know is that Colin Griff
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: gifted cult this assault rifle, reportedly for deer hunting. It
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: seems like they were out hunting very frequently. Colin Gray
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: talks to the sheriff's deputies about trying to get Colt outside,
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: trying to get in the hobby. Was this the best
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: hobby for cult to be in? Obviously not. So that's
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: what we know about that, And it's obvious these text
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: messages that are coming out between Marcy Gray, her sisters,
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: her mother.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: And father.
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: The family was very aware that Colt Gray was not
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: doing well mentally. He had just been put into therapy
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: a week before the shooting happened.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting, Sidney Sumner Sonya Turner, has
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: pointed out that his file about all of his difficulties
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and all of his demons and homicidal suicidal ideation did
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: not travel with him. Everyone is attacking Appalachi Hi. Appalachi
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Hi did not know about his trouble background. But as
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Sidney Sumner is telling us, we now know that law
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: enforcement went to speak to the father and I guess
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you heard what she was saying about the home.
• 35:20
  Speaker 17: Listen, Colt Gray's home life is anything but stable. Colt's mother,
• 35:23
  Speaker 17: Marcy Gray, has a long criminal history after falling into
• 35:26
  Speaker 17: drug addiction. Colin and Marcy Gray separate shortly after being
• 35:30
  Speaker 17: evicted from a rental home Colt stays with his father
• 35:33
  Speaker 17: while his two younger siblings go with their mom. After
• 35:36
  Speaker 17: cops find drugs in her car, Marcy Grays sent us
• 35:38
  Speaker 17: to five years in prison, but serves only forty six
• 35:41
  Speaker 17: days before release on parole. Months later, Gray is arrested
• 35:44
  Speaker 17: for aggravated battery on her seventy three year old mother
• 35:47
  Speaker 17: and barred from contact with Colin Gray outside of matters concerning.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Their children, crime stories with Nancy Gray. In the last
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: day's they hearing goes down in a court of law
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: where the judger's statements from family members of four people
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: murdered by Colt Gray at Appalachi High. It was Mason Shimmerhorn,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: aged fourteen, Richard Aspenwall the teacher, Christina Remi the teacher,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: and Christian Angulo, also fourteen, Two fourteen year olds gunned
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: down in the school hallways, two teachers dead. The survivors
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: spoke in court giving heartbreaking testimony about how the shooting
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: had impacted their lives and of course it did. This
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: is what happened. Sonya Turner, who is the mom of
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: two little girls that attend Appalachi High. Sonya, you're getting
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: all sorts of information.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: What have you learned about Gray's father.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: I got very reliable information that he was acting very
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: peculiar that morning at work and was communicating back and
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: forth supposedly with his son. And I wholeheartedly feel like
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: he may have known more than something was up. That
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: he may have known what was up.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it just makes me wonder.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Did he not want to give up his son? Did
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: he try to talk his son out of it? Was
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he trying to calm his son down at the expense
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of the other students? To Chris Grolnick, active shooter expert,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: what is the fix?
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: What can we do?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: The FBI had flagged it, local law enforcement went to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: go speak to his family.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: That did no good.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: The new school Appalachi High, as Sonya Turner has pointed out,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: did not have access to any of Cole Gray's history.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: They let a ticking time bomb walk into their school
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: unbeknownst to them.
• 38:11
  Speaker 13: And you know, Natsi and so many others. Ninety percent
• 38:14
  Speaker 13: of these shooters, Courton, the FBI tell somebody they're going
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: to do it before they do it, and they provide
• 38:19
  Speaker 13: something called leakage, which is on social media that remains
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: up at will until it's posted, flagged or other, and
• 38:25
  Speaker 13: then may come down later. If we just follow their history,
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: listen to the people around, and when somebody says they're
• 38:31
  Speaker 13: going to do something and we start believing them, then
• 38:33
  Speaker 13: we can reduce these incidents. As great as this response was,
• 38:36
  Speaker 13: we've still lost the lives of four people, nine other shot,
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: and a whole host of a community that's going to
• 38:42
  Speaker 13: be in shambles for god knows how long over twenty
• 38:46
  Speaker 13: five years. The watershed moment was Columbine. Of course, Uvaldi
• 38:51
  Speaker 13: was absolutely the incorrect way to handle this.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: You know, Chris Hubbard, Atlanta area father of children that
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: he's got to stand right back into school tomorrow morning.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Chris Hubbard, one of the first stints I did at
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the Fulton County District Attorney's office was in juvenile and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of course it's more of a.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Revolving door there than it is in adult jail.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: But I would see the level of crime committed by
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: jeeveniles and then.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Want right out the door.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And I knew nothing could be done except for me
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: trying to get treated as adults. So that in mind, Chris,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: what do you tell your children hide under your desk?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you tell them that's.
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  Speaker 4: An impossible conversation. Nancy.
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  Speaker 7: We talk about recognizing signs, we talk about being nice
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  Speaker 7: to people. I know that sounds silly maybe in this context,
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  Speaker 7: but you know a lot of these kids you here
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  Speaker 7: were bullied. And again, I know this didn't happen to
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  Speaker 7: appleatchi high because it was only his second day apparently,
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  Speaker 7: but had lived through that his entire life. But when
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  Speaker 7: something like that happens, all you can do is tell
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  Speaker 7: your kids to look out for themselves the best they can.
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  Speaker 7: I wish we had more physical barriers at the schools,
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  Speaker 7: lockdown doors, etc. The resource officers. I'm a huge proponent
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  Speaker 7: of having sat on three school boards, two current and
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  Speaker 7: one in the past. School safety is something that we've
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  Speaker 7: talked about a lot, and I'm a huge proponent of
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  Speaker 7: the school resource officers. But again that's a reaction thing.
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  Speaker 7: And again we're not missing these signs. I don't believe
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  Speaker 7: we're ignoring these signs of this mental health. And again
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  Speaker 7: I don't know what you do, And Nancy, you've lived
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  Speaker 7: this in your legal career, where you've had juveniles walk
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  Speaker 7: out the door and you knew something was going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the legal fix is.
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  Speaker 7: That's certainly not my area of expertise.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Chris, you point out something really valuable. And to
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  Speaker 1: Sonya Turner, following what Chris Hubbard has just said, the
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  Speaker 1: reaction by the school, and I want to defend the
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  Speaker 1: school along with you, now that I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: The school reacted and they reacted appropriately. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: the reaction what Hubbard just said, it's before that is,
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  Speaker 1: before the school.
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  Speaker 4: Has to react.
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  Speaker 1: How did he get the gun in there? Where did
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  Speaker 1: he get the gun? How did he know how to
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  Speaker 1: break down the gun? What kind of doors did the
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  Speaker 1: school have? Do they have metal detectors? Why didn't his
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  Speaker 1: file follow him to Appalachi High? I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 1: Appalachi's bringing a knife to a gunfight.
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  Speaker 4: They have no idea what.
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  Speaker 1: They're dealing with. But let me ask you this, Sonya Turner.
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  Speaker 1: I know as a victim of violent crime and having
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  Speaker 1: dealt with crime victims my whole life. Now you're never
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  Speaker 1: the same after. How are your girls and how is
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  Speaker 1: this affecting them?
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  Speaker 5: I want to share something about one of the victims
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  Speaker 5: as quickly as I can. They said at our vidal
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  Speaker 5: last night with which was absolutely amazing. Mason, the young
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  Speaker 5: man that was killed. One of his favorite video games
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  Speaker 5: was Kingdom of Hearts, and I'd never.
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  Speaker 4: Heard of it.
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  Speaker 5: But what they talked about is the whole premise of
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  Speaker 5: that video game was it's a story of light overcoming
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  Speaker 5: the darkness and the ultimate sacrifice did that child make?
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  Speaker 5: But last night of that vigil, all we.
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  Speaker 4: Saw was light.
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  Speaker 5: But love will prevail in the situation. It's just I
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  Speaker 5: hate that those families lost their loved one.
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  Speaker 1: Sunday, victim Griffith states quote, I got shot twice, once
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  Speaker 1: in my wrist, once in my upper arm. I lost
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  Speaker 1: ability to use my left hand, But on some days
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like that's the biggest thing I lost
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  Speaker 1: after the shooting. I lost my independence. I couldn't put
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  Speaker 1: on my own clothes or do my own hair. Things
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  Speaker 1: that were easy for me became a challenge. Another classmate
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  Speaker 1: told Colton Grat I hate everything about you. I hate
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  Speaker 1: the scars you left on my body. I hate that
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  Speaker 1: you took innocent lives in front of innocent people. Most
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  Speaker 1: of all, I hate that I let you live in
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  Speaker 1: my mind. Oh dear Lord in heaven, can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: the parents of the murdered students.
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  Speaker 19: Fourteen year old student Colt Gray asked his first period
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  Speaker 19: teacher at Appalachi High School how the school would respond
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  Speaker 19: to an active shooter situation. The teacher notices Gray's backpack
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  Speaker 19: seems unusually heavy and emails school administrators with concerns about
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  Speaker 19: the student. Gray second period algebra class teacher didn't see
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  Speaker 19: the email and allows Gray to leave the classroom just
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  Speaker 19: before ten am, ostensibly to meet with his guidance counselor.
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  Speaker 19: Sneaking into a bathroom, Gray pulls out his rifle and
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  Speaker 19: returns to class, knocking on the classroom door. A student
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  Speaker 19: gets up to let him in and sees Gray standing
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  Speaker 19: with a rifle at the door, telling the teacher he's
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  Speaker 19: got a gun. Colt Gray enters a nearby class and
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  Speaker 19: fires between ten and fifteen rounds. Gray then goes down
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  Speaker 19: down the hallway, firing at those leaving their rooms to
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  Speaker 19: see what's happening. In the end, two students and two
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  Speaker 19: teachers are dead. Nearly two years later, the now sixteen
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  Speaker 19: year old Grave pleads guilty to fifty five criminal charges,
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  Speaker 19: including four counts of murder, and a non.
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  Speaker 4: Negotiated plead deal.
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  Speaker 19: The judge has the opportunity to sentence Gray to life
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  Speaker 19: in prison with or without parole. Barrow County Superior Court
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  Speaker 19: Judge Nicholas Prim hands down a sentence of life in
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  Speaker 19: prison with no chance for parole.
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  Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfall. We wait as justice unfalls.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off goodbye friends,