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- Lucas: I was talking to a friend last week who works at a mid-sized software company. She described her boss as 'the ghost of a manager' — physically present but mentally checked out. Luna: Ghost of a manager. That's a good way to put it. Lucas: Yeah. It stuck with me because it's a growing complaint in a lot of workplaces. We've all had a boss at some point who just stopped being a leader. Not hostile, not micromanaging — just absent in spirit. Luna: They don't fight for the team, they don't give direction, they don't seem to care. The term people use now is that they've 'quiet-quit' their own role. Lucas: Right. And some recent Gallup data suggests that nearly thirty percent of managers are themselves disengaged at work. That's a huge number. So today I want to talk about how you navigate reporting to a boss who's given up. Luna: Why does it happen? Is it usually burnout or something else? Lucas: Often it's a combination. A restructuring that left them with no real authority, a plateau where they've stopped learning, or just sheer exhaustion. I've seen cases where a manager was passed over for promotion and just checked out after that. Luna: That makes sense. And the signs are pretty clear — they never initiate one-on-ones, they rubber-stamp everything, they avoid difficult conversations. Lucas: Exactly. They might still show up and do the minimum, but they're not advocating for the team. If you've got a boss like that, your career can stall pretty fast. You're not getting the feedback or sponsorship you need. Luna: And you might even be blamed for things the boss didn't handle. If a project goes sideways because they missed a meeting, you're the one who looks bad. Lucas: That's the big risk. So let's talk about what you can actually do. First, protect your own visibility. Document your wins and make sure senior leadership knows your contribution. Send regular updates to your skip-level or include them on key emails. Luna: But that has to be done carefully — you don't want to look like you're going around your boss. Lucas: Right. You frame it as teamwork. 'Just wanted to keep you looped in on the progress since my manager is handling a lot right now.' That's diplomatic. Second, find alternative mentors and allies in the organization. A disengaged boss can't be your only advocate. Luna: That's huge. And don't try to take on their job for them. It's tempting to fill the gap, but that leads to burnout and you still won't get the credit. Lucas: Yes. Third, manage up by setting the agenda in your one-on-ones. Come with a clear list of decisions you need from them. Give them easy wins so they feel some involvement. But if they still won't engage... then you have a bigger problem. Luna: At what point do you escalate or leave? Lucas: If you've tried for several months and your career is stagnating, it's time to start looking internally for a new role or externally for a new job. A disengaged boss is one of the strongest predictors of turnover. Luna: And the worst part is that they might not even notice when you leave. Lucas: Exactly. So you have to take ownership of your own development. And you know, it's episodes like this that remind me why we do this show — because there isn't a lot of practical advice out there for dealing with a boss who's just... gone. Luna: Yeah, it's a topic that doesn't get enough attention. Lucas: If you've found this helpful, consider supporting the show at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Listener support keeps this podcast ad-free and independent. Luna: A small contribution really goes a long way. Lucas: Anyway, one more point about protecting your career: don't assume that the disengaged boss's behavior is a reflection on you. It's their issue. But you still have to manage the impact. Luna: So how do you keep your own motivation up when the person leading you doesn't seem to care? Lucas: That's tough. I suggest building a peer support network — colleagues in similar situations. Also, try to find meaning in the work itself, separate from your boss's input. And if you can, get involved in projects that your boss isn't directly involved in. Luna: That gives you exposure to other leaders and a sense of progress. Lucas: Exactly. So to wrap up: if you have a boss who's quiet-quit their role, don't wait for them to change. Take control of your visibility, build your network, and be ready to move if necessary. Your career is too important to leave in the hands of someone who isn't paying attention. Luna: Well said. And maybe that boss will see the need to re-engage — but you can't count on it. Lucas: Right. That's all for today. Thanks for listening.