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- 0:00Speaker 1: Chapters thirty one through forty of Against Celsus book Ie
- 0:04Speaker 1: by Origin, translated by Frederick Crombie. This LibriVox recording is
- 0:09Speaker 1: in the public domain, read by David Ronald. And besides this,
- 0:14Speaker 1: one may well wonder how it happened that the disciples, if,
- 0:19Speaker 1: as the calumniators of Jesus say, they did not see
- 0:22Speaker 1: him after his resurrection from the dead and were not
- 0:25Speaker 1: persuaded of his divinity, were not afraid to endure the
- 0:29Speaker 1: same sufferings with their master, and to expose themselves to danger,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and to leave their native country to teach, according to
- 0:36Speaker 1: the desire of Jesus, the doctrine delivered to them by him.
- 0:40Speaker 1: For I think that no one who candidly examines the
- 0:44Speaker 1: facts would say that these men devoted themselves to a
- 0:48Speaker 1: life of danger for the sake of the doctrine of
- 0:50Speaker 1: Jesus without a profound belief which he had wrought in
- 0:54Speaker 1: their minds of its truth, not only teaching them to
- 0:57Speaker 1: conform to his precepts, but others also, and to conform Moreover,
- 1:02Speaker 1: when manifest destruction to life impended over him who ventured
- 1:07Speaker 1: to introduce these new opinions into all places, and before
- 1:11Speaker 1: all audiences, and who could retain as his friend no
- 1:15Speaker 1: human being who adhered to the former opinions and usages.
- 1:20Speaker 1: For did not the disciples of Jesus see when they
- 1:23Speaker 1: ventured to prove not only to the Jews from their
- 1:25Speaker 1: prophetic scriptures, that this is he who is spoken of
- 1:29Speaker 1: by the prophets, but also to the other Heathen nations,
- 1:33Speaker 1: that he who was crucified yesterday or the day before,
- 1:37Speaker 1: underwent this death voluntarily on behalf of the human race.
- 1:41Speaker 1: That this was analogous to the case of those who
- 1:44Speaker 1: have died for their country in order to remove pestilence,
- 1:48Speaker 1: or barrenness or tempests. For it is probable that there is,
- 1:53Speaker 1: in the nature of things, for certain mysterious reasons which
- 1:56Speaker 1: are difficult to be understood by the multitude, such a
- 2:00Speaker 1: virtue that one just man dying a voluntary death for
- 2:04Speaker 1: the common good might be the means of removing wicked
- 2:07Speaker 1: spirits which are the cause of plagues or barrenness, or
- 2:11Speaker 1: tempests or similar calamities. Let those therefore, who would disbelieve
- 2:17Speaker 1: the statement that Jesus died on the cross on behalf
- 2:19Speaker 1: of men say whether they also refuse to accept the
- 2:23Speaker 1: many accounts current, both among Greeks and Barbarians, of persons
- 2:28Speaker 1: who have laid down their lives for the public advantage,
- 2:32Speaker 1: in order to remove those evils which had fallen upon
- 2:34Speaker 1: cities and countries. Or will they say that such events
- 2:39Speaker 1: actually happened, but that no credit is to be attached
- 2:42Speaker 1: to that account which makes this so called man to
- 2:45Speaker 1: have died to ensure the destruction of a mighty evil spirit,
- 2:49Speaker 1: the ruler of evil spirits, who had held in subjection
- 2:52Speaker 1: the souls of all men upon earth. And the disciples
- 2:56Speaker 1: of Jesus, seeing this and much more which it is,
- 3:00Speaker 1: they learned from Jesus in private, and being filled moreover
- 3:03Speaker 1: with a divine power, since it was no mere poetical
- 3:06Speaker 1: virgin that endowed them with strength and courage, but the
- 3:10Speaker 1: true wisdom and understanding of God, exerted all their efforts
- 3:14Speaker 1: to become distinguished among all men, not only among the Argives,
- 3:18Speaker 1: but among all the Greeks and barbarians alike, and so
- 3:22Speaker 1: bear away for themselves a glorious renown. But let us
- 3:26Speaker 1: now return to where the jew Is introduced, speaking of
- 3:30Speaker 1: the mother of Jesus and saying that quote when she
- 3:34Speaker 1: was pregnant, she was turned out of doors by the
- 3:37Speaker 1: carpenter to whom she had been betrothed, as having been
- 3:41Speaker 1: guilty of adultery, and that she bore a child to
- 3:45Speaker 1: a certain soldier named Panthera. End quote. And let us
- 3:49Speaker 1: see whether those who have blindly concocted these fables about
- 3:53Speaker 1: the adultery of the virgin with Panthera and her rejection
- 3:57Speaker 1: by the carpenter, did not invent these stories to overturn
- 4:02Speaker 1: his miraculous conception by the holy ghosts, For they could
- 4:06Speaker 1: have falsified the history in a different manner on account
- 4:09Speaker 1: of its extremely miraculous character, and not have admitted, as
- 4:13Speaker 1: it were, against their will, that Jesus was born of
- 4:17Speaker 1: no ordinary human marriage. It was to be expected, indeed,
- 4:22Speaker 1: that those who would not believed the miraculous birth of
- 4:25Speaker 1: Jesus would invent some falsehood. And their not doing this
- 4:28Speaker 1: in a credible manner, but their preserving the fact that
- 4:32Speaker 1: it was not by Joseph that the Virgin conceived Jesus,
- 4:35Speaker 1: rendered the falsehood very palpable to those who can understand
- 4:40Speaker 1: and detect such inventions. It is at all agreeable to
- 4:43Speaker 1: reason that he who dared to do so much for
- 4:46Speaker 1: the human race, in order that as far as in
- 4:50Speaker 1: him lay all the Greeks and Barbarians who were looking
- 4:53Speaker 1: for a divine condemnation, might depart from evil and regulate
- 4:58Speaker 1: their entire conduct in a manner pleasing to the creator
- 5:01Speaker 1: of the world. Should not have had a miraculous birth,
- 5:05Speaker 1: but one the vilest and most disgraceful of all. And
- 5:09Speaker 1: I will ask of them, as Greeks, and particularly of Celsus,
- 5:13Speaker 1: who either holds or not the sentiments of Plato, and
- 5:17Speaker 1: at any rate quotes them, whether he who sends souls
- 5:20Speaker 1: down into the bodies of men degraded him who was
- 5:24Speaker 1: to dare such mighty acts and to teach so many men,
- 5:28Speaker 1: and to reform so many from the massive wickedness in
- 5:31Speaker 1: the world, to a birth more disgraceful than any other,
- 5:35Speaker 1: And did not rather introduce him into the world through
- 5:38Speaker 1: a lawful marriage. Or is it not more in conformity
- 5:42Speaker 1: with reason that every soul, for certain mysterious reason I
- 5:46Speaker 1: speak now according to the opinion of Pythagoras and Plato
- 5:51Speaker 1: and Epidocles, whom Celsus frequently names, is introduced into a body,
- 5:56Speaker 1: and introduced according to its deserts and former actions. It
- 6:00Speaker 1: is probable therefore that this soul also which conferred more
- 6:05Speaker 1: benefit by its residence in the flesh than that of
- 6:08Speaker 1: many men. To avoid prejudice, I do not say all
- 6:12Speaker 1: stood in need of a body not only superior to others,
- 6:16Speaker 1: but invested with all excellent qualities. Now, if a particular soul,
- 6:21Speaker 1: for certain mysterious reasons, is not deserving of being placed
- 6:25Speaker 1: in the body of a wholly irrational being, nor yet
- 6:29Speaker 1: in that of one purely rational, but is clothed with
- 6:32Speaker 1: a monstrous body, so that reason cannot discharge its functions
- 6:37Speaker 1: in one so fashioned, which has the head disproportioned to
- 6:42Speaker 1: the other parts, and altogether too short. And another receives
- 6:46Speaker 1: such a body that the soul is a little more
- 6:48Speaker 1: rational than the other, And another still more so, the
- 6:52Speaker 1: nature of the body, counteracting to a greater or less
- 6:56Speaker 1: degree the reception of the reasoning principle. I should there
- 7:01Speaker 1: not be also some soul which receives an altogether miraculous body,
- 7:06Speaker 1: possessing some qualities common to those of other men, so
- 7:09Speaker 1: that it may be able to pass through life with them,
- 7:12Speaker 1: but possessing also some quality of superiority, so that the
- 7:17Speaker 1: soul may be able to remain untainted by sin. And
- 7:20Speaker 1: if there be any truth in the doctrine of the physiognomists,
- 7:25Speaker 1: whether Zopyrus or a Luxis, or Polomon, or any other
- 7:30Speaker 1: who wrote on such a subject, and who profess to
- 7:33Speaker 1: know in some wonderful way that all bodies are adapted
- 7:37Speaker 1: to the habits of the souls, must there have been
- 7:39Speaker 1: for that soul which was to dwell with miraculous power
- 7:42Speaker 1: among men and work mighty deeds, a body produced, as
- 7:46Speaker 1: Celsus thinks, by an act of adultery between Panthera and
- 7:50Speaker 1: the Virgin. Why from such unhallowed intercourse there must rather
- 7:55Speaker 1: have been brought forth some fool to do injury to mankind,
- 8:00Speaker 1: a teacher of licentiousness and wickedness and other evils, and
- 8:04Speaker 1: not of temperance and righteousness and other virtues. But it was,
- 8:09Speaker 1: as the prophets also predicted from a virgin, that there
- 8:12Speaker 1: was to be born, according to the promised sign, one
- 8:15Speaker 1: who was to give his name to the fact, showing
- 8:19Speaker 1: that at his birth God was to be with man.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Now it seems to me appropriate to the character of
- 8:26Speaker 1: the Jews to have quoted the prophecy of Isaiah, which
- 8:29Speaker 1: says that Emmanuel was to be born of virgin. This, however, Celsus,
- 8:35Speaker 1: who professes to know everything, has not done, either from
- 8:39Speaker 1: ignorance or from an unwillingness, if he had read it
- 8:42Speaker 1: and voluntarily passed it by in silence to furnish an
- 8:46Speaker 1: argument which might defeat his purpose. And the prediction runs
- 8:49Speaker 1: thus quote, and the Lord spake again unto AHAs, saying,
- 8:55Speaker 1: ask thee a sign of the Lord thy God. Ask
- 8:58Speaker 1: it either in the death or in the high above.
- 9:00Speaker 1: But a has said, I will not ask, neither will
- 9:03Speaker 1: I tempt the Lord. And he said, hear ye, now,
- 9:06Speaker 1: o house of David, is it a small thing for
- 9:09Speaker 1: you to weary men? But will ye weary my God?
- 9:12Speaker 1: Also therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold,
- 9:17Speaker 1: a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall
- 9:20Speaker 1: call his name Emmanuel, which is being interpreted God with us.
- 9:25Speaker 1: End quote, and that it was from intentional malice that
- 9:28Speaker 1: Celsus did not quote this prophecy. Is clear to me
- 9:32Speaker 1: from this that, although he makes numerous quotations from the Gospel,
- 9:36Speaker 1: according to Matthew As of the star that appeared at
- 9:38Speaker 1: the birth of Christ and other miraculous occurrences, he has
- 9:42Speaker 1: made no mention at all of this. Now, if a
- 9:45Speaker 1: Jew should split words and say that the words are
- 9:47Speaker 1: not quote lo a virgin end quote, but quote lo
- 9:52Speaker 1: a young woman end quote, we reply that the word olmah,
- 9:57Speaker 1: which the septuagen have rendered by a virgin and others
- 10:01Speaker 1: by a young woman, occurs as they say in Deuteronomy,
- 10:05Speaker 1: as applied to a virgin in the following connection. Quote,
- 10:10Speaker 1: if a damsel, that is a virgin, be betrothed unto
- 10:13Speaker 1: a husband, and a man find her in the city
- 10:16Speaker 1: and lie with her, then ye shall bring them both
- 10:18Speaker 1: out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall
- 10:20Speaker 1: stone them with stones, that they die, the damsel because
- 10:24Speaker 1: she cried not being in the city, and the man
- 10:27Speaker 1: because he humbled his neighbour's wife end quote. And again
- 10:31Speaker 1: quote but if a man find a betrothed damsel in
- 10:34Speaker 1: a field, and a man force her and lie with her,
- 10:37Speaker 1: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
- 10:40Speaker 1: But unto the damsel, ye shall do nothing there is
- 10:43Speaker 1: in her noson worthy of death. End quote. But that
- 10:47Speaker 1: we may not seem because of a Hebrew word to
- 10:50Speaker 1: endeavor to persuade those who are unable to determine whether
- 10:54Speaker 1: they ought to believe it or not, that the prophet
- 10:56Speaker 1: spoke of this man being born a virgin, because that
- 11:00Speaker 1: is birth. These words quote God with us end quote
- 11:03Speaker 1: were uttered. Let us make good our point from the
- 11:06Speaker 1: words themselves. The Lord is related to have spoken to
- 11:09Speaker 1: a has. Thus, quote, ask a sign for thyself from
- 11:13Speaker 1: the Lord thy God, either in the depth or height
- 11:16Speaker 1: above end quote. And afterwards the sign is given. Behold,
- 11:20Speaker 1: a virgin shall conceive and bear a son. What kind
- 11:23Speaker 1: of sign, then, would that have been? A young woman
- 11:26Speaker 1: who is not a virgin giving birth to a child.
- 11:29Speaker 1: And which of the two is the more appropriate as
- 11:32Speaker 1: the mother of Emmanuel I e. God with us, Whether
- 11:36Speaker 1: a woman who has had intercourse with a man and
- 11:39Speaker 1: who is conceived after the manner of women, or one
- 11:42Speaker 1: who is still a pure and holy virgin. Surely it
- 11:45Speaker 1: is appropriate only to the latter to produce a being
- 11:48Speaker 1: at whose birth, it is said, quote God with us
- 11:52Speaker 1: end quote. And should he be so captious as to
- 11:55Speaker 1: say that it is to a has that the command
- 11:58Speaker 1: is addressed. Quote, ask thyself a sign from the Lord
- 12:02Speaker 1: thy God. End quote. We shall ask in return, who,
- 12:06Speaker 1: in the times of a has bore a son at
- 12:08Speaker 1: whose birth the expressions made use of Emmanuel I e.
- 12:12Speaker 1: God with us. And if no one can be found,
- 12:15Speaker 1: then manifestly what is said to Ahs was said to
- 12:18Speaker 1: the house of David, because it is written that the
- 12:21Speaker 1: Savior was born of the house of David, according to
- 12:23Speaker 1: the flesh. And this sign is said to be quote
- 12:26Speaker 1: in the death or in the height end quote, since
- 12:29Speaker 1: quote he that descended is the same also that ascended
- 12:33Speaker 1: up far above all heavens, that he might fill all
- 12:36Speaker 1: things end quote. And these arguments I employ as against
- 12:39Speaker 1: a Jew who believes in prophecy let celsus. Now tell
- 12:43Speaker 1: me or any of those who think with him, with
- 12:46Speaker 1: what meaning the prophet utters, either these statements about the
- 12:49Speaker 1: future or the others which are contained in the prophecies.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Is it with any foresight of the future or not.
- 12:55Speaker 1: If with the foresight of the future, then the prophets
- 12:58Speaker 1: were divinely inspired. If with no foresight of the future,
- 13:02Speaker 1: let him explain the meaning of one who speaks thus
- 13:04Speaker 1: boldly regarding the future, and who is an object of
- 13:08Speaker 1: admiration among the Jews because of his prophetic powers. And now,
- 13:13Speaker 1: since we have touched upon the subject of the prophets,
- 13:16Speaker 1: what we are about to advance will be useful not
- 13:18Speaker 1: only to the Jews, who believe that they spake by
- 13:21Speaker 1: divine inspiration, but also to the more candid among the Greeks.
- 13:25Speaker 1: To these we say that we must necessarily admit that
- 13:28Speaker 1: the Jews had prophets if they were to be kept
- 13:31Speaker 1: together under that system of law which had been given them,
- 13:35Speaker 1: and were to believe in the creator of the world
- 13:37Speaker 1: as they had learned, and to be without pretexts so
- 13:41Speaker 1: far as the law was concerned for apostesizing to the
- 13:44Speaker 1: polytheism of the Heathen. And we establish this necessity in
- 13:48Speaker 1: the following manner. Quote for the nations end quote, as
- 13:52Speaker 1: it is written in the Book of the Law of
- 13:54Speaker 1: the Jews itself. Quote shall hearken unto observers of times
- 13:58Speaker 1: and diviners end quote. But to that people, it is said, quote.
- 14:03Speaker 1: But as for Thee, the Lord Thy God hath not
- 14:05Speaker 1: suffered THEE to do so. End quote. And to this
- 14:08Speaker 1: is subjoined the promise quote a prophet, shall the Lord
- 14:12Speaker 1: thy God raise up unto THEE from among thy brethren
- 14:15Speaker 1: end quote. Since therefore they Heathen employ modes of divination,
- 14:20Speaker 1: either by oracles or by omens, or by birds, or
- 14:23Speaker 1: by ventriloquists, or by those who profess the art of sacrifice,
- 14:27Speaker 1: or by Chaldean genealogists, all which practices were forbidden to
- 14:31Speaker 1: the Jews. This people, if they had no means of
- 14:35Speaker 1: attaining a knowledge of futurity, being led by the passion
- 14:38Speaker 1: common to humanity of ascertaining the future, would have despised
- 14:42Speaker 1: their own prophets as not having in them any particle
- 14:46Speaker 1: of divinity, and would not have accepted any prophet after Moses,
- 14:50Speaker 1: nor committed their words to writing, but would have spontaneously
- 14:54Speaker 1: betaken themselves to the divining usages of the Heathen, or
- 14:57Speaker 1: attempted to establish some such practice amongst themselves. There is
- 15:02Speaker 1: therefore no absurdity in their prophets having uttered predictions, even
- 15:06Speaker 1: about events of no importance to suit those who desire
- 15:09Speaker 1: such things, as when Samuel prophesies regarding three si asses
- 15:14Speaker 1: which were lost or in mention is made in the
- 15:17Speaker 1: Third Book of Kings respecting the sickness of a king's son.
- 15:21Speaker 1: And why should not those who desire to obtain auguries
- 15:23Speaker 1: from idols be severely rebuked by the administrators of the
- 15:27Speaker 1: law among the Jews, As Elijah is found rebuking Aziah
- 15:31Speaker 1: and saying, quote, is it because there is not a
- 15:34Speaker 1: god in Israel that ye go to inquire of Beelzebub,
- 15:38Speaker 1: God of ekron end. I think then that it has
- 15:43Speaker 1: been pretty well established not only that our Savior was
- 15:47Speaker 1: to be born of a virgin, but also that there
- 15:50Speaker 1: were prophets among the Jews who uttered not merely general
- 15:53Speaker 1: predictions about the future, as regarding Christ and the kingdoms
- 15:57Speaker 1: of the world, and the events that were to happen
- 16:00Speaker 1: to Israel and those nations which were to believe on
- 16:04Speaker 1: the Savior, and many other things concerning him, but also
- 16:08Speaker 1: prophesies respecting particular events, as, for instance, how the asses
- 16:13Speaker 1: of kish which were lost were to be discovered, and
- 16:16Speaker 1: regarding the sickness which had fallen upon the son of
- 16:19Speaker 1: the King of Israel, and any other recorded circumstance of
- 16:23Speaker 1: a similar kind. But as a further answer to the
- 16:26Speaker 1: Greeks who do not believe in the birth of Jesus
- 16:28Speaker 1: from a virgin, we have to say that the Creator
- 16:31Speaker 1: has shown, by the generation of several kinds of animals,
- 16:35Speaker 1: that what he has done in the instance of one animal,
- 16:37Speaker 1: he could do if it pleased him in that of others,
- 16:41Speaker 1: and also a man himself. For it is ascertained that
- 16:44Speaker 1: there is a certain female animal which has no intercourse
- 16:47Speaker 1: with the male, as writers on animals say is the
- 16:50Speaker 1: case with vultures, and that this animal, without sexual intercourse,
- 16:55Speaker 1: preserves the succession of race. What incredibility, therefore, is there
- 16:59Speaker 1: in sce posing that if God wished to send a
- 17:02Speaker 1: divine teacher to the human race, he caused him to
- 17:05Speaker 1: be born in some manner different from the common. Nay,
- 17:09Speaker 1: according to the Greeks themselves, all men were not born
- 17:12Speaker 1: of a man and woman. For if the world has
- 17:15Speaker 1: been created, as many, even of the Greeks are pleased
- 17:19Speaker 1: to admit, then the first men must have been produced
- 17:22Speaker 1: not from sexual intercourse, but from the earth in which
- 17:25Speaker 1: thematic elements existed, which, however, I consider more incredible than
- 17:30Speaker 1: that Jesus was born like other men, so far as
- 17:34Speaker 1: regards the half of his birth. And there is no
- 17:37Speaker 1: absurdity in employing Gressian histories to answer Greeks with the
- 17:42Speaker 1: view of showing that we are not the only persons
- 17:45Speaker 1: who have recourse to miraculous narratives of this kind. For
- 17:49Speaker 1: some have thought fit not in regard to ancient and
- 17:52Speaker 1: heroic narratives, but in regard to events a very recent
- 17:55Speaker 1: occurrence to relate as a possible thing that Plato was
- 17:59Speaker 1: the son of amphictione Ariston being prevented from having martial
- 18:04Speaker 1: intercourse with his wife until she had given birth to him,
- 18:07Speaker 1: with whom she was pregnant by Apollo. And yet these
- 18:10Speaker 1: are veritable fables which have led to the invention of
- 18:14Speaker 1: such stories concerning a man whom they regarded as possessing
- 18:17Speaker 1: greater wisdom and power than the multitude, and as having
- 18:21Speaker 1: received the beginning of his corporal substance from better and
- 18:24Speaker 1: diviner elements than others, because they thought that this was
- 18:28Speaker 1: appropriate to persons who are too great to be human beings.
- 18:32Speaker 1: And since Celsus has introduced the Jew disputing with Jesus
- 18:35Speaker 1: and tearing in pieces as he imagines the fiction of
- 18:39Speaker 1: his birth from a virgin. Comparing the Greek fables about
- 18:42Speaker 1: Denae and Melanippe and Augae and Antiope, our answer is
- 18:47Speaker 1: that such language becomes a buffoon, and not one who
- 18:51Speaker 1: is writing in a serious tone. But moreover, taking the
- 18:55Speaker 1: history contained in the Gospel. According to Matthew, of our
- 18:58Speaker 1: Lord's descent into Egypt, he refuses to believe the miraculous
- 19:02Speaker 1: circumstances attending it viz. Either That the angel gave the
- 19:06Speaker 1: divine intimation or that our lords quitting Judaea and residing
- 19:10Speaker 1: in Egypt was an event of any significance. But he
- 19:14Speaker 1: invents something altogether different, admitting somehow the miraculous works done
- 19:19Speaker 1: by Jesus, by means of which he induced the multitude
- 19:23Speaker 1: to follow him as the Christ. And yet he desires
- 19:26Speaker 1: to throw discredit on them as being done by the
- 19:29Speaker 1: help of magic and not by divine power. For he
- 19:32Speaker 1: asserts quote that he Jesus, having been brought up as
- 19:36Speaker 1: an illegitimate child, and having served for hire in Egypt,
- 19:40Speaker 1: and then, coming to the knowledge of certain miraculous powers,
- 19:43Speaker 1: returned from thence to his own country, and by means
- 19:46Speaker 1: of those powers, proclaimed himself a god end quote. Now,
- 19:50Speaker 1: I do not understand how a magician should exert himself
- 19:53Speaker 1: to teach a doctrine which persuades us always to act
- 19:57Speaker 1: as if God were to judge every man for his deeds,
- 19:59Speaker 1: and and should have trained his disciples, whom he was
- 20:02Speaker 1: to employ as the ministers of his doctrine in the
- 20:05Speaker 1: same belief. For did the latter make an impression upon
- 20:09Speaker 1: their hearers after they had been so taught to work miracles,
- 20:13Speaker 1: or was it without the aid of these? The assertion
- 20:16Speaker 1: therefore that they did no miracles at all, but that,
- 20:19Speaker 1: after yielding their belief to arguments which were not at
- 20:23Speaker 1: all convincing, like the wisdom of the aggression dialects, they
- 20:26Speaker 1: gave themselves up to the task of teaching the new
- 20:29Speaker 1: doctrine to those persons among whom they happened to take
- 20:33Speaker 1: up their abode is altogether absurd, For in what did
- 20:36Speaker 1: they place their confidence when they taught the doctrine and
- 20:40Speaker 1: disseminated the new opinions. But if they indeed wrought miracles,
- 20:44Speaker 1: then how can it be believed that magicians exposed themselves
- 20:47Speaker 1: to such hazards to introduce a doctrine which forbade the
- 20:51Speaker 1: practice of magic. I do not think it necessary to
- 20:54Speaker 1: grapple with an argument advanced not in a serious but
- 20:57Speaker 1: in a scoffing spirit, such as the fault following quote.
- 21:01Speaker 1: If the Mother of Jesus was beautiful, then the God,
- 21:04Speaker 1: whose nature is not to love a corruptible body, had
- 21:08Speaker 1: intercourse with her because she was beautiful, end quote or quote,
- 21:13Speaker 1: it was improbable that the God would entertain a passion
- 21:16Speaker 1: for her because she was neither rich nor of royal rank,
- 21:19Speaker 1: seeing no one even of her neighbors knew her end quote,
- 21:23Speaker 1: and is the same scoffing spirit that he adds quote
- 21:27Speaker 1: when hated by her husband and turned out of doors,
- 21:30Speaker 1: she was not saved by divine power, nor was her
- 21:33Speaker 1: story believed. Such things, he says, have no connection with
- 21:36Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Heaven end quote. In what respect does
- 21:40Speaker 1: such language differ from that of those who pour abuse
- 21:43Speaker 1: on others on the public streets, and whose words are
- 21:46Speaker 1: unworthy of any serious attention. After these assertions, he takes
- 21:50Speaker 1: from the Gospel of Matthew, and perhaps also from the
- 21:54Speaker 1: other Gospels, the account of the dove alighting upon our
- 21:57Speaker 1: Savior at his baptism by on, and desires to throw
- 22:01Speaker 1: discredit upon the statement, alleging that the narrative is a fiction.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Having completely disposed as he imagined of the story of
- 22:10Speaker 1: Our Lord's birth from a virgin, he does not proceed
- 22:13Speaker 1: to deal in an orderly manner with the accounts that
- 22:16Speaker 1: follow it, since passion and hatred observe no order, but
- 22:20Speaker 1: angry and vindictive men slandered those whom they hate as
- 22:24Speaker 1: the feeling comes upon them, being prevented by their passion
- 22:28Speaker 1: from arranging their accusations on a careful and orderly plan.
- 22:32Speaker 1: For if he had observed a proper arrangement, he would
- 22:35Speaker 1: have taken up the gospel, and with the view of
- 22:38Speaker 1: assailing it, would have objected to the first narrative, then
- 22:42Speaker 1: passed on to the second, and so on to the others.
- 22:45Speaker 1: But now after the birth from a virgin, this Celsus,
- 22:49Speaker 1: who professes to be acquainted with all of our history,
- 22:52Speaker 1: attacks the account of the appearance of the Holy Spirit
- 22:55Speaker 1: in the form of a dove at his baptism, and
- 22:57Speaker 1: then after that tries to throw discred reddit upon the
- 23:00Speaker 1: prediction that our Lord was to come into the world.
- 23:04Speaker 1: In the next place, he runs away to what immediately
- 23:07Speaker 1: follows the narrative of the birth of Jesus, the account
- 23:11Speaker 1: of the Star and of the wise men who came
- 23:14Speaker 1: from the east to worship the child. And you yourself
- 23:16Speaker 1: may find, if you take the trouble, many confused statements
- 23:20Speaker 1: made by Celsus throughout his whole book, so that even
- 23:23Speaker 1: in this account he may, by those who know how
- 23:26Speaker 1: to observe and require an orderly method of arrangement, be
- 23:29Speaker 1: convicted of great rashness and boasting, and having inscribed upon
- 23:34Speaker 1: his work the title of a true discourse, a thing
- 23:37Speaker 1: which is never done by a learned philosopher. For Plato
- 23:41Speaker 1: says that it is not an indication of an intelligent
- 23:44Speaker 1: man to make strong assertions respecting those matters which are
- 23:48Speaker 1: somewhat uncertain. And the celebrated Crisippus, even who frequently states
- 23:53Speaker 1: the reasons by which he is decided, refers us to
- 23:57Speaker 1: those whom we shall find to be abler speakers. That
- 23:59Speaker 1: am this man, however, who is wiser than those already named.
- 24:04Speaker 1: And then all the other Greeks agreeably to his assertion
- 24:08Speaker 1: of being acquainted with everything inscribed upon his book the
- 24:12Speaker 1: words a True Discourse and of against Celsus by Origin,
- 24:17Speaker 1: Chapters thirty one through forty, read by David Ronald