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OC Under Oath (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the Wrap.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm so happy to say that I'm back with
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  Speaker 1: Erica Jay.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, babe, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I missed you?
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  Speaker 1: I missed you too, Like where have you? You've been
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  Speaker 1: all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: I've been all over the place. And we just got
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: back from our cast trip.
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  Speaker 1: Oh is it going to be a juicy one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it. It does not disappoint,
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  Speaker 2: it does not disappoint.
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  Speaker 1: And level of wonder ten. How exhausted are you now?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm okay now, but when I came home,
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  Speaker 2: I was definitely sleepy, Yeah, like a little You know
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  Speaker 2: those things, and I know that the viewers really enjoyed them,
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: but they're very difficult to make. And you know this,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you're going to bed at five
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  Speaker 2: am and waking up at ten to do it all again.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot. Yeah, it's pretty NonStop. It's pretty NonStop.
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  Speaker 2: But we stayed in the most beautiful Teddy. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's most the most beautiful place we've ever stayed.
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  Speaker 1: Really.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great trip. It was beautiful. Love
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  Speaker 2: Italy yeah, was.
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  Speaker 1: There any room meeting up or everybody had their own rooms?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody had their own room. Now, no, everybody had their
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  Speaker 2: own room. It was it was none of that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was really great.
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  Speaker 1: None of that. So we have real houselights, Orange County
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  Speaker 1: Season nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Episode eight. Here we are, Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Before the episode even starts, we get the flashback reminder
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  Speaker 1: of Katie and her husband having the discussion and Matt going, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you might as well just call, you know, tell them
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  Speaker 1: their fucking liars, right, So I'm curious if we're going
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  Speaker 1: to have the same stance on this, but we'll get
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  Speaker 1: there when we get there. It starts out with Shannon
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  Speaker 1: her dad Jean.
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  Speaker 2: How sweet is this man? And how sharp?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Shannon, if you're listening, you know I didn't have a dad.
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  Speaker 2: I am so jealous of your father, your relationship with
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  Speaker 2: your dad. He just seems like a gentleman and sharp
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  Speaker 2: and fabulous.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoyed this so much. I just think it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he's very like old school in the way that
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  Speaker 1: he like talks.
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  Speaker 2: No, but it's Jane the machine. He's a gentleman, Jean
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  Speaker 2: the Machine.
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  Speaker 1: Jeane the Machine ninety six and.
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  Speaker 2: Just bright and sharp and with it.
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  Speaker 1: He knew how to give it to her, like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I won't.
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  Speaker 2: Be driving today, adorable.
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  Speaker 1: He had to stick it to her a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: make a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Jean the Machine, You are precious.
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  Speaker 1: Then a Marilyn Monroe impersonator comes out and brings Jane
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  Speaker 1: a Jeane the Machine hat and sings him Happy Birthday.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Love ninety six once. I mean, most most of people
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  Speaker 2: get ninety six, and when they do, they're not as
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  Speaker 2: sharp as Gene the Machine.
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  Speaker 1: Jeane the Machine. I love that. Shannon also goes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to date anyone right now, as if
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't just on a reality dating show.
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  Speaker 2: This is true, and her dad kind of gave it
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  Speaker 2: to her. Yeah, it's kind of funny. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely kind of gave it to her. Then
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  Speaker 1: we've got where what is that restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: They go to, Matt Javiers, Well.
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  Speaker 1: That was Javier's. But no, the restaurant where Gretchen and
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  Speaker 1: Gina meet for lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen that place a lot of times.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we always see the same places and you know why, Yeah, where.
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  Speaker 1: They can get Well, Gretchen and Gina meet for lunch.
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  Speaker 1: Gretchen explains to Gina that she doesn't understand why Katie
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  Speaker 1: would be bringing up any conversation to a reporter. Gretchen
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  Speaker 1: does say she thought it was in a safe space
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  Speaker 1: when having that conversation, so it makes it seem like
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  Speaker 1: she did reveal the information.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and there is no such safe space with a reporter.
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  Speaker 2: It's not you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But no, she's saying she was in a safe
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  Speaker 1: space when she was having a conversation with Katie, is
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  Speaker 1: what I think she was saying.
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  Speaker 2: Again, there's no safe space with Katie. Yeah, which is
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  Speaker 2: what we find out as we go on. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I know you say you're going to see it differently, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, then Kiki Monique meets up with them. Kiki
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  Speaker 1: clarifies that Katie did tell her that Gretchen had to
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  Speaker 1: go to the hospital because she was drugged. She also
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  Speaker 1: says Gretchen is feeling extremely betrayed, and then Kiki also
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  Speaker 1: tells them that Katie brought Gina's name up about implying
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  Speaker 1: that Gina made a racist comment about Katie's jacket is
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  Speaker 1: that an Asian designer? Then when Kiki leaves, Gretchen starts
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  Speaker 1: crying about how messed up it is. Gretchen's performance here
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  Speaker 1: is kind of embarrassing to me. I think like she
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  Speaker 1: deserved a razzie for it.
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  Speaker 2: A razzi. Well, look, I think when you do these things,
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  Speaker 2: this is what happens, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So let's break down because I haven't really been talking
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  Speaker 1: to you about this. So because you've been gone, you
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  Speaker 1: have more of an issue with Katie here than you
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  Speaker 1: do with Gretchen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I dislike both behavior, but Katie's has gone on
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  Speaker 2: longer than Gretchen's.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Gretchen's has potentially been going on since the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of time.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know, We didn't want I'm just but I
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  Speaker 2: didn't watch it back then. So I was gonna let
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  Speaker 2: like the over fifteen year old beef die. But apparently
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  Speaker 2: it's still alive, you know what I mean? Like, oh good,
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  Speaker 2: and here we go and here we go. But the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing about bringing quote outside reporters in, like this
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  Speaker 2: is not the way you do housewives. I'm sorry, that's
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  Speaker 2: just not what you do. The show is about a
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  Speaker 2: group of women and friendships within that you don't drag
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  Speaker 2: in outside sources to do what to write your battles
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  Speaker 2: for you to leak information like this is not what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. If I was in charge of this show,
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  Speaker 2: I would absolutely say that's an no. No.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not only a note. I mean, granted,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not giving Katie a free pass here, but I
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  Speaker 1: am saying I do think Gretchen told her. Yeah, very possible,
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  Speaker 1: even though I don't. You know, we'll get to lie
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  Speaker 1: detect her test later, but I think Gretchen told her,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Gretchen told her. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: Gretchen can keep track of what she's saying, because sometimes
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  Speaker 1: she says that she did go to the hospital. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: she says I.
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  Speaker 2: Saw that too, like she's it's kind of semantics. No,
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  Speaker 2: I said I was sick enough to go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: The drugged thing was. And I remember in Atlanta when
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  Speaker 2: there was that whole accusation of well, Phaedra brought out
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  Speaker 2: that Candy had potentially Candy and Todd were going to
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  Speaker 2: drug Porsche like this is you know, we didn't see Phaedra.
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  Speaker 1: After that, Yeah we didn't, Yeah, we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: And so this to me when you use the word
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  Speaker 2: drugged and shit like that, Like, now we're stepping into
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  Speaker 2: something else other than a Housewives show.
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  Speaker 1: So in your mind, you think, Gretchen, this is before
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  Speaker 1: Gretchen was back on the show. She goes to dinner
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  Speaker 1: with Jen and Gretchen and their husbands and they are
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  Speaker 1: all just shit talking, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: Gretchen doesn't realize it's going to come back and bite
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  Speaker 1: her in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And this is what happens when you do that,
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  Speaker 2: when you go to dinner off camera and you have
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  Speaker 2: your husbands and you have these conversations, you never have
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  Speaker 2: a clean chance here. Yeah, and that's that's really what
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, that's what this is.
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  Speaker 1: And then what are your thoughts on this? Gina comment
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  Speaker 1: which Gina comment, Gina commenting, oh, is that an Asian designer?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but it didn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: it was a slight.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Gina then later on says, you know, she was
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  Speaker 1: saying it as a compliment or as a question or
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  Speaker 1: as a compliment. But then but then it made it
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  Speaker 1: seem like she was putting her down because I guess
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  Speaker 1: when Katie first came on the show. She said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: only going to be wearing Asian designers, and it was
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  Speaker 1: this cool thing and she was excited about it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: but then she started coming on wearing only like Balenciaga, and.
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  Speaker 2: Like so it changed, it changed, it changed. She had
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  Speaker 2: kind of size are for changing. If you're saying I'm
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  Speaker 2: only going to do this, which is great, support whom
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  Speaker 2: you want to support? And I don't you know, was
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  Speaker 2: it chatty? Possibly? I need more context.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're good. Well, I think we'll probably get somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I think after this episode, we don't see Katie much anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was told.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that this is and we just little
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  Speaker 1: super tease. I think I have Katie on the pod
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  Speaker 1: next week, Do you really? I think so, so I'll
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  Speaker 1: be able to because what I think is happening is
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  Speaker 1: I think Katie had the potential and has the potential
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  Speaker 1: to be a good housewife.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't run your mouth like this.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't run your mouth like this. And if
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  Speaker 1: you can't, if you are going to run your mouth,
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  Speaker 1: you need to got.
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  Speaker 2: To own up. You got to own up to it
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  Speaker 2: and do it to your face. Yeah, you can't tell
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  Speaker 2: everybody else about the person you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: But then why is everybody else acting like Jen wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a part of this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's easier to focus on Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it's everybody focusing on Katie and nobody
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  Speaker 1: focusing on the fact that Jen has pretend amnesia.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's a real thing that pretend
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  Speaker 2: damnesia can can be a real thing. But I think
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  Speaker 2: that there's look, Katie is in the forefront, and then
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  Speaker 2: I think they can turn their sights onto Jen. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's one person at a time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do we think that Gretchen needs to involve
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  Speaker 1: and pray and every single episode when it comes to
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: the female drama, I really don't. I don't either. Then
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: the girls arrived at Emily's Persian New Year party.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know Shane was Persian, but I found out.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, well I knew because they had had a
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  Speaker 1: party back before. But I didn't know anything about the
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  Speaker 1: egg thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this egg. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I didn't know it's Persian New Year. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know anything about the culture.
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  Speaker 1: I also didn't know it's a different date. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: believe Tam or new to ask if it was a
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  Speaker 1: different date.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, very interesting. I know I did notice that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Shane and Emily's you know, obviously upset by
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Luke's diagnosis, in Luke's behavior and how he kind of,
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: I guess, slid backwards after New Orleans and men and
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: women see things differently, and I know that she feels, yeah, And.
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  Speaker 1: I think men have a different way of wanting to
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  Speaker 1: express it, especially when you're on camera.
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  Speaker 2: Well, men would solve problems. They don't. They just don't
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  Speaker 2: communicate and do things like we do. And yes, the
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  Speaker 2: camera makes everything.
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  Speaker 1: Worse, everything worse. And she's you can tell that Emily's internalizing.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: A lot, a lot, a lot. That hurts. Yeah, it hurts.
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  Speaker 1: And Shane, I think is trying for whether he does
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: it all the time or whether he does it solely
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: when they're on camera, is trying to downplay it because
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: I think he doesn't want it to be as or
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: just be calm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's just a man's reaction, like let's
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  Speaker 2: not run away with the emotion, let's stay with the facts,
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  Speaker 2: let's stay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard, it's very difficult.
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  Speaker 2: And educate, and it's just it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many unanswered questions at this point.
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  Speaker 2: They just it's it's hard, and so.
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  Speaker 1: She's having, you know, to go back and forth between
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  Speaker 1: you know, the drama with the housewives and her.
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  Speaker 2: Child and her child, and the child supersedes everything, of course,
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  Speaker 2: as as it should.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Heather tells Emily and Gina how pissed Tamra was
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  Speaker 1: that no one reached out to Tamra. Do you consider
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: a reach out the night of something happening a reach
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  Speaker 1: out or you'd want a post reach out? So that
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: was really what because the girls are saying some of
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: us are like, we reached out that night.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an individual thing. Sometimes. I think people
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  Speaker 2: need spacetimes. I think people need in the moment, like, hey,
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: that was pretty raw for you, all right. For me,
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  Speaker 2: it's an individual thing. And it's also I also want
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  Speaker 2: to say this, it can be manipulative. Yeah what if
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  Speaker 2: we're not you know, oh when I reached out to you,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, don't you know, stop fucking games. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's an individual, case by case basis.
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  Speaker 1: But if you saw somebody really struggling, I would Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that episode we saw
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  Speaker 1: Tamra struggling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would probably reach out no matter how
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  Speaker 2: and be like, look, none of this is that important,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Is that important? None of
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  Speaker 2: this is that, None of this is.
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  Speaker 1: Then they kind of show they do a little flashback
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  Speaker 1: to a scene of Tamra and how they're talking, which
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  Speaker 1: this made me think they really can't even go half
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  Speaker 1: an episode or a full episode without Tamra.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't, you can't, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, there's there's select amount of
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: housewives where that that happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and she's one of them.
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  Speaker 1: She's one of them.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's just the way it is down there,
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  Speaker 2: that is. I mean, it's just like if you're going
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: to cut Kyle out of you know, you can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't, you know, you just can't.
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  Speaker 1: There's just there's something that brings everybody together, whether it's
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: to fight or to get along or to have fun moments.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what that you know, that's what glue, the
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  Speaker 2: glue that Tamor is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Katie is annoyed that she is on the
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  Speaker 1: ouse with everyone because she is the one keeping Gretchen's secret.
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  Speaker 2: What is the secret? Again?
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  Speaker 1: The secret is that Gretchen actually told her all of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff about going to the hospital. Ah, and so
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  Speaker 1: she keeps telling everybody. You know, I didn't say anything
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  Speaker 1: to Kiki Munique. I did. And and but.
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  Speaker 2: Why why he is Katie keeping Gretchen secret. She doesn't
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  Speaker 2: owe her anything because.
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  Speaker 1: I think she doesn't want to admit that she told
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  Speaker 1: Kiki Monique.
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  Speaker 2: But I also, Monique just sat there and out at you,
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  Speaker 2: and Kiki Monique is going to do what's right for
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  Speaker 2: Kiki Monique. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: can't blame Kiki Monique.
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  Speaker 1: No, she's gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: She's going to do what's right for her. And I
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  Speaker 2: thought that she came in and she was reasonable. It
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like she was.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't trash talking.
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  Speaker 2: No, she was pretty straightforward. But again, we can't, in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, do these things on the shows because now
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: you're pulling in these other things that look, guys, the
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: show was within the cast. Keep it there.
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  Speaker 1: And if Katie really wanted to bring up that past thing,
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  Speaker 1: she should have just brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: She should have just said, hey, Tamra. If I were you,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't trust Gretchen because not even six months
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  Speaker 1: ago she said the following to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, And honestly, it would have given Katie a lot
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  Speaker 2: of points within the group.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too, And then Gretchen would have
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  Speaker 1: had to a friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But instead now it's drawing all these weird things.
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  Speaker 2: You can't. Whenever you start to do that, just advocate
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: for yourself, say what you know, say that's policy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then the girls write down questions they have for
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: each person.
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  Speaker 2: Which I thought was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I thought was kind of fun, but I
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to see each of the questions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, hold on, can we scroll in a
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: little bit here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? It felt a little thanks.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I like, these are nice, They're cute.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You got to get a pair of super.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Comfortable That's what I was thinking. I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: these are very these look these are.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Fine and you can wear them all the time.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't mind us. We got a little sidetracked. But
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: then Tamra.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Does arrive, which is good, which she should.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: She arrives and she seems she seems more settled. Yep,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Like she seems more settled she arrives, Emily tells Tama
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: today will be pivotal for the group, and Katie goes
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to the bathroom because she feels sick. At this point,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: they're not serving alcohol at the event, which hasn't really
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: fully tipped anybody off on why they might not be,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: which is the detector test. Yeah, but they don't know
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: they're having.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: The light detector test. It's kind of awesome, which is
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: pretty great, but I didn't like that the light detector
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: test was the same guy that did the vander Pump
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: light detector test with Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy, I'm serious.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So I think that maybe there has to be some
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: other service, like maybe we should call them.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I did like the female though, I thought that she
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: was interesting.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I thought she was interesting too, but I was like,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: if it's the same company over and over again, like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? What are we doing? Is this
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the only guy we can get?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: And also I'm tired of the lie detector gag. However,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: in this particular situation was kind of interesting.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: They gave us more information on what makes you pass
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the lie detect test, which then I wonder because Katie's
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: in a state of anxiety.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Is is this thing? This is how you're going to
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: defend this failure.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know she failed every single question? I mean
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: did they? I would assume there's questions we saw that
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: we didn't see.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: They're going to Katie, right, are you? Is your name?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Teddy Millen Camp?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I want to know did she fail those answers to
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Probably not, because I think they said that she failed
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: all of them.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Well, the I want to say, probably the important ones
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: that they were not. The obvious is the sky blue.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I'd have been like, which sky I have no idea,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about? I don't know, you know whatever.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: So, but so there's a little scene, there's a tiny
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: little clip off. It's it's about five seconds, pretty telling. Yeah,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: where Katie goes I don't know what to ask and
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Jen goes question. Yeah, that means Jen know's Gen knows.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Jen knows Gen knows.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So why is Jen keeping her mouth shut about all
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of this?
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Would you want to get in this fight?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I would at least say, Gretchen, you told us all this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's trying to protect Gretchen.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: As well more than her best friend Katie.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Well, when you're saving your own hide, you have no
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: best friends.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: True, but I mean, come on it, really, I don't know.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And then Gina saying to Gretchen there's a plan really
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: makes it seem like the light detector people were given
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: specific instructions.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure, yeah, yeah dah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: So then the girls go to take the light detector test.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And Katie like has to go to the bathroom because
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: she's having a lot of anxiety.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she has to go to the bathroom. She's gagging
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: or who knows what's happening.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Whatever's happening.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: We're hearing noise, we're hearing noise.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's vomiting.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe she's vomiting. She's at this point, I'm like, all
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I can think about is the LVP guy and puppy gate.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: So that's I'm getting, having your own anxiety.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I'm having my own.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: You're on posts. But you know it's interesting, like in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things, when you look at this ship.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Now are you like, I'm like, why did I care
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Why did I care about that? And I don't even
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: remember if she passed or failed the light detector test.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I think he pastors pastor.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: He passed her, but then she was never seen again.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he passed her, she was
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: never seen again. You do the math, yeah, so, but
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you know, God.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Also, I've read something that if you don't, if you're
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: not like delayered to a certain point, the light detector
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: tests don't even really work.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: You mean on your skin, on your skin. Yeah. Well,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: here's the other thing too, It is there are different
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: levels of polygraph and different skill levels of people that
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: administer them. I think like the you know, whomever's doing
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it in law enforcement's probably a lot better than the
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: one they get for us and nun.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had to take one? Oh no, yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you neither.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: No.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder if I could pass one, or if i'd
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: be too jittery even if I wasn't lying.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a certain level of expectation. You shouldn't be
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: somewhat nervous. It's like if the police come to the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: house and say that it's like, you know, yeah, the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: fuck is this? There's a certain level of expectation and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: people to have anxiety just at a base level.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you'd be like, oh, we'll see. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: they ask a bunch of questions. Do you want to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: go down these one by one?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I mean if I detect her moderator comes down to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: read the results. Tamra failed her answer of yes, being
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: told she was on the spectrum, thoughts.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I think she said I could be semantics semantics,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: so I think that's a semantics.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: But she took a lot of shit for that. She
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: took a lot of ship for it in real time. Yeah,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and shouldn't say it again, like, yeah, don't say it again,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: just let it go. Jen significantly failed her answer no
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to the question of if she has any reservations about
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: marrying Ryan.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think that is? Do you think that's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: about the finance all of it?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And I think that that's pretty normal. Look, we see
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: on these shows and I'm going to even, like say,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: my own past marriage, trying to put the best, you know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: foot forward, showing the best of the relationship, you too,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: all of this, and you know the truth is like, yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I would be nervous too, you know, I would be
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: nervous too. And she has a lot of kids, has
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of kids, a lot of responsibilities, and he's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: got his own thing going which we've talked about, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: so sure, yeah, you know, Heather passed her. So if
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: she wanted to do Beverly Hills, come on by? You know?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And I get it. I mean, you know, come on by, girl,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: come on by. Heather failed the answer of no for
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: calling the paparazzi at Disneyland. I'm disappointed in this, I
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: pointed in this answer. I know I want disappointed in
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: this answer. I wanted her to pass that because I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: didn't think that it just doesn't sound like so what
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't sound like Heather, feel like Heather,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And what's the big deal?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And who cares?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly? Who cares? But I was disappointed in this answer.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Gretchen passed her answer of no to the question of
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: if she told Katie and Jin that she was drugged?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: How is that possible?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: This is where I'm struggled. So I am too, So
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: let's talk this out. Okay, So she passes the lie
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: detective test, but we see her say something. So what
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: is going on here?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: We've seen her say four different things, right, So maybe
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: she genuinely doesn't Maybe she was out they were partying
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it up. She knows she told some form of the story.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: She doesn't know what extent she got into and what
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: she embellished and what she didn't see.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: When you're saying drugged though, that's it like you're stepping
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: into a.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Place that's like and you also know if you went
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to the hospital or not.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Hell, yeah you do. You know if you go to
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a hospital, you really do? You really do?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And we've heard her aunt, We've heard her say to Tamra,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: We've heard her say to multiple people, no, I didn't
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: or I needed to go or I did go.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Right, So this here is you know, that's this is
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a reunion This right here is a reunion situation. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: they need they need to get this down. Gretchen passed
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the answer of no to the question of if she
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: went to the hospital after naked wasted.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then Tamra and Shannon are confused. So I Gretchen
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: told them she did go to the hospital.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you say that? But you know, she
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: passed her answer of no.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Supposedly, well, according to the powers that be, Gretchen hold
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: her whole test was toothful.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I I I'm confused because the camera doesn't either.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen you not be right not telling her.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So this is like, do we continue to do these
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: stupid light detector tests because the camera and the ship
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that comes out of your mouth.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Like we're seeing flashback scenes.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: We just watched this, right, so who's wrong here?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes no sense.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It makes no sense.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Then Katie failed her answer of no to the question
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: if she told Kiki that Gretchen said she was drug
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and hospitals. To me, there's no question she told Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: she told her.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: She told her, She told her again, stop talking.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: But she wouldn't have told her if she wasn't told
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: she's not gonna make it. I don't think she made
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: She didn't pull it out of thin air. I do
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: believe Gretchen told Katie that and Katie repeated it to Kiki.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's the very logical argument.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a very logical way to say, like, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: don't think Katie's gonna pull it out of thin air,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that Gretchen said this and then go tell Kike. Yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I mean that's I don't think Katie's been truthful. But
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: that's a real stretch. Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Then Katie failed her answer of note to the question
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: if she played Shannon's recording for alexis I believe that,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: believe that, I believe Why doesn't she.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Just say yes? Because sometimes when you're in these things.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: You just can't do it. You know, you just can't
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: be honest. You just can't be honest. You can't say
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: you fucked up, you can't do this.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: But if she just came in blazing saying, you know, yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I did, I talked, I did this over and over again,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like she'd be in less in a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: fight with these girls.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I think so, But I think but Katie's also new
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: and probably feels like if I say this, I'm really
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: going to be out, yeah, you know, and out with
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the women and out of the show and out period
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: or many out, you know, whatever your definition about is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And I think that that's what for me, that's how
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I take it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And without her bestie coming to her side, Jen saying no,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you know what, I was there too, and that did happen.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: But also, when is Katie going to turn on Jen
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, why aren't you helping me out here? Well?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I hope she do. Do you think she's going to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: be at the reunion?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Who? No, Katie, Katie, I don't know. How does this
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: season end up?
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Bravo released a clip of Jen and Katie having a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: one on one next week, so maybe we get more
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of this.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Well, they need to, I mean definitely for this storyline
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to progress, Like those two women need to sit down
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and talk about what the fuck is going on here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Jen has a good way of melting from the truth.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: We'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Then Katie failed her answer to the question of yes
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to the question if Gretchen told her she was drugged
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and went to the hospital. Katie did the worst of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: everyone in the group.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Not surprising, by the way. No, No, not surprising at.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: All, not surprising. Exactly what they planned and wanted to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: happen happened, happened two things. Other women failed questions, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the group just kept moving. Did you notice that? Yes,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and Gretchen passed everything. But we've already seen her lie
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: in the hospital, so that doesn't really invalidate the story.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: No, there's something like, look, a polygraph is not perfect.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: We see people pass that, shouldn't it happens? I mean,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: make of it what you will. Yeah, the camera does
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: not lie here though. The camera and the cameras replaying things,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and we're.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Both remembering exactly what the camera showed us.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, I don't know from an audience perspective,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: how they feel about that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Would you rather be friends with Katie or Gretchen?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Neither?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You have you have to pick?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: No, I don't why because life isn't that way.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: No, you don't. Life isn't that way. See, I don't
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I think I.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Would like Katie. Listen, I'm sure. Look, I'm sure Katie
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and Gretchen are lovely people inside this group and this
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: experience of real Housewives of Orange County that does not
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: make me want to be friends with them because this
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: is a different This is not real life, okay, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: we can all agree on that. And inside of this
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: group that would not be my choice of friends.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: No, I mean inside of the I mean if we
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: had to pick from everyone, really, I mean definitely wouldn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: be them. But I think I don't know why I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: have more of a problem with the Gretchen.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Have you given that some thought? No, seriously, I think it's.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Because there I know and my like, well, I don't.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I can't speak in a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: complete absolute But because Gretchen told this story to Katie,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I'm giving Katie and out like essentially, they wouldn't have
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: gone out to eat if Gretchen wasn't in talks to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: come on that show.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't, but she shouldn't have done it anyway. Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: you got to be smarter than that. He has to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: be smarter than that. You can't get dragged into these things.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: You realize, Katie, you got dragged into all this shit
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: and but then didn't play it well at all, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: then you played it terribly.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Then just come out.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah I said, or I met with her, or yeah
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I did, I did. This is what was said.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: She gossiped to me, and then I gossiped to other people,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: one of them being kik Monique, another than being whoever
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: this other journalist is.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: That is still the word journalist just throw I know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Then we're journalists.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Now, No we aren't. I'm just kidding, and I would
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: like to sincerely apologize to all of the true journalists.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I am not a journalist. I am bullshitting up here
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: on a podcast.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we are podcasters talking podcast talking podcasting in a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: journalism bone in my body. Then as they're you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: everybody's kind of finishing up. Katie still keeps swearing that
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: she didn't tell Kiki. She didn't Katie. Yeah, Katie tries
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to get jin on her side, and Jen isn't helping Katie,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and it's shocked that Katie is still lying. Uh huh.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Then Katie says she is telling the wholehearted truth in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: her confessional.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: H just just stop.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Gina confronts Katie about trying to make her comments sound
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: racist to Kiki, and then Emily tells Katie to leave.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: When Katie leaves, she says that might be the last
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: time anyone sees her with these women.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I wouldn't want to be around a group
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of women that I completely failed, uh to be honest
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: with about that. And it's just too many things, like
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: you know, once twice. Okay, they're smaller, but there seems
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: to be a lot here. And I don't think it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a pileon of Katie. I just think that the behavior
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: is consistently this way.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I think in order for the cast to move on,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: they have to trust her. They have to trust her
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: they don't, or she has to come clean exactly.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: And if you come clean, then you've got to correct
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: your behavior and be consistent at that. So if you're
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: going to come clean, you got to say yes, not
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: only did I lie about this, I am coming clean
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to be consistently truthful.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm pissed at you, Jen for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: pretending that you didn't hear it. And you know what,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I'm pissed at you.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: You know what. And she has the right to do that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, Gina, I'm pissed at you.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna whisper about you behind your back to Jen.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I'm actually going to say to your face that bothers me.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: That hurt me when you said that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: But if you're not going if she's not going to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: be able to do that, and she's got to stop
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: talking to her husband. Oh again, this is what I'm
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: telling you, stop doing that. Stop doing that.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: But I feel like she feels like she doesn't have
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: anyone to talk to her.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But she's iced herself out, Like do you know what
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, She's put herself in a position where nobody
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: wants to do this. Yeah, and that's a hard place.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: To be because but if all she would have done
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: has been a little honest, I bet they would want
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to do this.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Of course, because everybody makes mistakes in this group. Yeah,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: in every housewives is messy behavior. And you can have
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the best intentions, you can get twisted. Things that you
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: say are out of context. Whatever, you have a cocktail.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But when you work this hard to isolate everybody in
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the group that I mean, that takes something.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: So then what do you think is going to happen
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Like when it comes.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: To well, let's see, we're on episode eight, how many
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: do they have left? Like eight more?
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably eight more?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: So well, I don't know. I mean, let's say you
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: tilk her out now. Not that they don't have plenty
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: to talk about, because they do, but I you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Do we think that Tamor's going to get a better
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like the edit's going to switch for Tamra Now.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I would say edit, I think
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: that Tamra has to switch Tamera. You know, edit is. Yes,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: there are things that get fucked up in editing. We've
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: all seen it, their biases and edits. There just are
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and anybody that's been watching these shows for a long
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: time you can see it. For whichever show you're watching,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: you can tell or the story that you know is
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: being told this year, you can feel it. But at
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, if the words come out
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: of your mouth. You're going to live and die by
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: those no matter who you are.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I know. I just wonder because I mean, we spent
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: this entire episode pretty much talking about Katie. Now is
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Katie gone?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: What are you talking to talk about? What do you
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: talk about? Well, everybody has to go to work.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody has to start showing up and doing.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: What showing up and being honest, showing up and you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: revealing things about I don't know about what they know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: their fears, their home lives, how they feel in this group.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: What are the dynamics. I mean, you know, it's a
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: show about women and their friendships, and.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Right now it feels like a lot of ass kissing you.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Mean amongst them versus Katie.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're all trying to well, they're.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: They're united in their distrust of this one person in group,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: so of course it's ass kissing, and then they're going
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to turn on each other.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess that'll be our next episode, turning on
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: each other.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Turning on each other.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how all the world turns.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, has the the OC turns? But I do like
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the show. I like the show. I think it's it's interesting. Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: it's nice to see you, Teddy, see you too. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: missed you.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: We haven't even done like a full recap on us.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: What like, what's going on with you?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm good. I'm having a nice time. I'm
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I came home from the trip and took
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a day or two. We all did it. It was
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: a long one.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And are you still talking to the guy?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I know?
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Airica, I know Erica.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: It's really nice. I like it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: This is I just got I just got flush.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I know. I see that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: That's very kind of happy.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you me too. It feels nice. Yeah, yeah, And
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I feel calm and and good. And you know.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: You have trust. Yeah. I can tell in your eyes.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I can tell when you're distrusting of a person or
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: situation or even talking about something.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm really calm and a piece feels nice.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: My gosh, I love that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: What about what what about you?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm I've I've been going on. I've been on probably about.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Like eight dates with one person.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: And he's the one that we not the young guy,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the one that was if you haven't met him, okay,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: but have you talked to me about him? Yes? I
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: talk So it is that guy yes.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I've been about eight dates.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: He's such a nice guy. That's like such a good guy.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't. But also I physically, like for a while,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I was like so physically charged, like I was like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I want to I want to do this,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I want to do that, you know, like I was
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a wild woman. I think that was probably when I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: was on the steroids.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And now I'm not.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like chill, Like I'm like, okay, yeah,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: let's go to dinner.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Sure, you know, like he's funny, he's nice, he opens
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: car doors like, he's handsome, he has a nice job.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Like there's no there's no complaints. The only complaints there
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: are about how I physically feel well, like not about him,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: but about myself. Sure, so I'm kind of going through
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: those things that I've got a lot of things kind
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: of coming up where I'm like, am I going to
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: be able to do this? Like I'm getting to that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: point where I'm definitely better than I was, but I'm
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: not like one hundred percent. So like it was really
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like my friend, one of my best friends, had about
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Mitzville last week for her son our bar Mitzvah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Sorry guys, A bar Mitzville last week for her.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Son, and it was at night, and normally, like I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in bed at eight o'clock, so this was my latest night.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I stayed out till eight twenty pm. Okay, but like
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I had to have You don't have to be like chaperone.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah you need yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm not there just to you. Yeah, I'm
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: not there just solo with the kids.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: You need I need help.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's hard to ask for help, especially you.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to ask for help for anybody. But
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you are so independent and so you know, so disciplined,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: just like your workout, your schedule, and so I know
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: that's that's right.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's hard for to ask for help. And
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: so I'm definitely in that stage where I'm like, I'm
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: sure I'm not the best person in the world to
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: have any sort of relationship with, but this guy's he's chill,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: he's items to be understanding, very understanding, and I'm like
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: going through the phase of like I'm like Overhane.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, it's I think, look, you've been through
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: so much and to do something like that, it's fine,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Like and then what do you guys have been what
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: kind of eight dates have you been doing?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Is it? Is it dinner dates, lunch dinner, like we've
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: gone on a wallviees or something. Yeah, just all either
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: at either house, you know, just like we're just hanging
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: out getting to know each other.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that for you. Yeah, so
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: it's been good for you.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So you know, we both end on a little bit
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of a happy note there.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah. Yeah, nice and calm, Nice and calm,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: calm diamonds, calm, smooth diamond I'm a calm.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Cubics or conia or what am I hold on?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: What is the stuff?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I'm a lab grown No, you're not.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Smooth diamonds. Smooth flawless diamonds.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, thanks to guys for tuning in.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for tuning in. Let's see you soon.