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Episode 27: Kirsty Godso, Nike Master Trainer · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode twenty seven of Hurdle, a podcast
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  Speaker 1: that talks to top CEOs and entrepreneurs about how they
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  Speaker 1: got through tough times hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Emily Abadi, and I am proud to say
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  Speaker 1: that not only did I snag a personal record time
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  Speaker 1: at last week as New York City Marathon, but I am.
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  Speaker 2: Also now capable of walking downstairs again without winsing.
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  Speaker 1: I am so stoked to bring you my conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Kirsty god So today. And before we get to that,
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  Speaker 1: Now let's talk about kg aka ka God aka hear'stee God.
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  Speaker 1: So let me tell you, listening to this woman doc
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  Speaker 1: will ignite something in you. Appropriate since the New Zealand
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  Speaker 1: transplant calls herself a pyro girl, that's something we'll definitely
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  Speaker 1: get into later. In today's episode, we talk about the
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  Speaker 1: hurdle moments she's faced building her personal brand, including having
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  Speaker 1: to leave behind a major fitness project she worked on
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  Speaker 1: with Lais Mills to put her faith in the Swoosh.
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  Speaker 1: Also how an injury brought her to tears inside an
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  Speaker 1: acupuncturist's office, a red flag telling her she needed to
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  Speaker 1: temporarily turn down the intensity of her workouts and just
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  Speaker 1: chill out. She offers beautiful insight on the importance of
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  Speaker 1: supporting others, a snapshot of her training style spoiler alert,
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  Speaker 1: it's insane, and we share a few laughs along the way,
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  Speaker 1: as if you dig today's episode and you're based in
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  Speaker 1: the New York City area, quick plug hang out with
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  Speaker 1: me and Kirsty next week and a whole lot of
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  Speaker 1: other badass women I admire at.
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  Speaker 2: The girl Boss rally Saturday and Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Kirsty and I will be having a chat on Saturday afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: November seventeenth about all things health and fitness, and I'd
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  Speaker 1: love to see you there. I also find this the
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  Speaker 1: perfect time to conveniently plug episode twenty four with Nieha Gandhi.
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  Speaker 2: She's the COO and editor in chief of Girl Boss.
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  Speaker 1: I got a ton of great feedback on Naha's episode
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  Speaker 1: and her solid actionable career advice from listeners, and that's
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  Speaker 1: always a really fun thing.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm rambling a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: A quick thank you to Ali Feller of the Alli
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  Speaker 1: on the Run show. She had me on her pod
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  Speaker 1: this week and we had a total blast. I am
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  Speaker 1: so humbled by the awesome messages and new followers and
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  Speaker 1: fans of alleys that may be over here listening to
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  Speaker 1: Hurdle for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: So welcome to my little corner of the interwebs.
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  Speaker 1: Hurdle Podcast, shoot me an email Emily at hurdle dot
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  Speaker 1: us to say hi or share a Hurdle moment of
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  Speaker 1: your own.
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  Speaker 2: And with that, let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here today with Kirsty god So, she is
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  Speaker 1: a Nike Master trainer. I feel like there's so many
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  Speaker 1: ways I want to describe you, So how would you
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  Speaker 1: describe you?
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  Speaker 3: I always dealt with Nike Mousa traina and then I
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  Speaker 3: say a Pyro Girl and people like wait, wait, wait
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  Speaker 3: what of those two mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like what does that even mean? And I mean, great question.
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  Speaker 3: Nike Mousa traina is it sounds like this kind of
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  Speaker 3: superhero title, but really we just are this squad of
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  Speaker 3: people that are out there trying to elevate the energy
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  Speaker 3: of everyone else around us.
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  Speaker 1: And that's very similar to what Pyro Girls is. So
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  Speaker 1: where did Pyro Girls come from? Is this like a
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  Speaker 1: god So creation or.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a god So and Lauren Williams creation.
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  Speaker 3: So that's like anyone that knows Lauren Williams knows she
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  Speaker 3: is such a badass programmer and she's another trainer. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: she's another trainer. And we originally met on a Nike shoot.
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  Speaker 3: She was a model and I was on set as
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  Speaker 3: a trainer, and she'd always be one of my favorite
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  Speaker 3: people in the Nike shoots.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, wow, she just looks so cool all the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's so tough.
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  Speaker 3: And then when we met in real life, I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 3: you're even cooler than I thought. Then we started teaching
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  Speaker 3: together when Project by Equinox opened, and so we'd always
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  Speaker 3: joked about having a class together and just talking about
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  Speaker 3: how it would be like too much sauce and too
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  Speaker 3: much energy, and then so Pyro Girls, the name just
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  Speaker 3: came very naturally to us.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that was how that started.
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  Speaker 3: But she's busy being a pyro mom now in Canada,
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  Speaker 3: so keeping the flame going while she's there, and then
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  Speaker 3: we link up when we can.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. I feel like for anyone who lives outside of
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  Speaker 1: New York City, Project by Equinox is a pop up
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  Speaker 1: boutique studio here in in the city where they do
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  Speaker 1: different classes than they offer in like the bigger box
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  Speaker 1: Equinox gyms.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, that's a good way to describe it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, Okay, so I'm sitting here with this
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  Speaker 1: trainer extraordinaire. I'm excited to sit down with you today.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like our paths have crossed a ton in
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  Speaker 1: the last few years. And this is like the first
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  Speaker 1: forty five minute dedicated this might be.
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  Speaker 3: The least violating forty five minutes of your time with
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  Speaker 3: me because we have to sit still and there's no
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  Speaker 3: battle ropes and we're not going upside down and no
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  Speaker 3: pull up bus.
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  Speaker 1: So thank god, thank god. So if you can't hear, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you can here. I'm sure Kirsty's not from these parts.
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  Speaker 1: So let's dive into a little bit of backstory. How
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  Speaker 1: long ago did you move here and where from?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 3: I moved to New York about three years ago from
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand, and prior to that, I was coming in
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  Speaker 3: and out of the States all the time for Nike,
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  Speaker 3: and but I was mostly on the West Coast in
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  Speaker 3: Portland and LA.
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  Speaker 2: And I always thought I was going to live in LA.
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  Speaker 2: That was the dream.
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  Speaker 3: And then I got my visa and actually, like it
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  Speaker 3: was only about six weeks I was moving over. I
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  Speaker 3: ended up moving to New York instead because I took
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  Speaker 3: this role to design a gym for Equinox, So I
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  Speaker 3: kind of landed in New York without meaning to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't say.
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  Speaker 3: I loved my first year here, and then once I
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  Speaker 3: got that seasoning in now I love it and I
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  Speaker 3: still think, you know, maybe there's a part of me
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  Speaker 3: that will end up living in LA But I always
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  Speaker 3: say that, and then something about New York. It's like
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  Speaker 3: this toxic potion, you know, like this heavy love affair,
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  Speaker 3: and it keeps you here, so you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't just end up working for Nike overnight.
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  Speaker 1: So why don't we backtrack a little bit and talk
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  Speaker 1: about kind of your foundations and getting into this career
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  Speaker 1: in health and fitness, and were you always into fitness
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  Speaker 1: growing up?
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  Speaker 2: What was your deal?
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  Speaker 3: I was always into sport, definitely. I mean, when you
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  Speaker 3: live in New Zealand, there's not much to do other
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  Speaker 3: than be very active. So both my parents were pro golfers,
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  Speaker 3: and my brother's phenomenal at golf, and so I grew up.
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  Speaker 3: I think golf is a very disciplined and patient sport.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely have the discipline. I don't think I had
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  Speaker 3: the patients, and so I prefer to always move fast.
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  Speaker 2: So I was doing motocross and water polo.
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  Speaker 3: And netball, which is kind of our version of basketball
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  Speaker 3: a little different, and always playing a ton of sport.
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  Speaker 3: And then once I finished at high school and transitioned
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  Speaker 3: into university where I was doing a double business degree,
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  Speaker 3: that's when I started really getting into the gym because
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  Speaker 3: you know, everyone moves away to different universities, we didn't
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  Speaker 3: have the same sports teams available. And that was when
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  Speaker 3: I loved the gym. But did I ever think I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to be a trainer? Helder like, absolutely not. And
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't until I actually first tried my first year
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  Speaker 3: of high intensity workout that I was like, whoa. And
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  Speaker 3: that was when it was just wasn't even a term
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  Speaker 3: that was used. It was something kind of held for athletes.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, man, I don't know if I
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  Speaker 3: absolutely hated that or I loved it like I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to spew. I kind of thought I was dying, but
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  Speaker 3: then I was upharick And what did I involve? I
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  Speaker 3: just I tried it in LA and a lot, just
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  Speaker 3: a lot of burpies and I was using a barbell
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  Speaker 3: and it was really cool. So I was already training
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  Speaker 3: at les Mills the gym, and then so I started
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  Speaker 3: working with them, and that was really how I got
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  Speaker 3: into fitness, which was cool because I was doing it
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  Speaker 3: with my best friend. And then next thing you know,
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  Speaker 3: we were certified in these different programs and we were
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  Speaker 3: teaching fitness DVDs.
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  Speaker 2: Which if you asked us when we're twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: We never would have thought that we were doing that,
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  Speaker 3: especially given like a few months prior we were partying
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  Speaker 3: at Coachella.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a little lost about how you all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden like were starring in fitness DVDs like.
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  Speaker 3: So it's funny because it feels like it was such
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  Speaker 3: a seamless transition when I talk about it now, But
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  Speaker 3: I guess at the time, I was working full time
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  Speaker 3: in media. I'd graduated from university with a double degree
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  Speaker 3: in finance and marketing, and then I was still in
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  Speaker 3: my media job whilst like studying these programs with Lesmills
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  Speaker 3: and learning to be a trainer with them, and we
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  Speaker 3: were creating this high intensity program called Grit. So then
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  Speaker 3: obviously the way that they train up all their trainers
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  Speaker 3: around the world. I don't think a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: know that Les Meill's comes from New Zealand. That's the
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  Speaker 3: one with the long body ump and the cow bells.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a heavy stick.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I see them doing lately on twenty four hour Fitness.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so they're been a twenty four hour and
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  Speaker 3: gold and stuff like that. But in New Zealand, we
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  Speaker 3: actually have Les Mel's gyms. So the way that all
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  Speaker 3: the trainers are trained around the world is through these
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  Speaker 3: fitness DVDs. So that was part of what my friend
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  Speaker 3: Les Junior and I had to do was film the DVDs,
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  Speaker 3: which was quite funny because if you watch maybe the
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  Speaker 3: first two or three releases, I sound like the terminator,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm so nervous that I have no tone of voice,
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  Speaker 3: and like he's the really happy, bubbly one high fiving everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, let's get to work.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm just like I was just nervous and didn't
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  Speaker 3: really know what I was doing. And I think even
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  Speaker 3: still at the time, my dad was like, wait, so
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  Speaker 3: she got a finance degree and now she's doing fitness DVDs,
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  Speaker 3: Like what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: And I think the best part about this story is
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  Speaker 1: you can't see that Kirsty is like very petite in size,
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  Speaker 1: and so you got this like size powerhouse telling you
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  Speaker 1: to get to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty ironic, but we had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun and it was cool, and I think it
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  Speaker 3: was the best like growth for me in the sense
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  Speaker 3: of learning how to speak. I mean, I used to
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  Speaker 3: be too scared to call people's houses like just call
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  Speaker 3: the phone like the home line, and then you had
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  Speaker 3: to get up and teach a class in front of people.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are scared to do that every day.
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  Speaker 1: Like sometimes when I am doing business and I'm there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on and I get an email and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, what do you think about like ABC and
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  Speaker 1: D and I'm like, do you just have five minutes
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  Speaker 1: for us to hop on?
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  Speaker 2: I just get on the phone, I know, really quick
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  Speaker 2: or people.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, what's wrong, and You're like no,
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  Speaker 3: it's just like let's have a power well because it's
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  Speaker 3: way easier and so irritates me because tone of voice
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  Speaker 3: is misinterpreted.
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  Speaker 2: It's true.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean that's tone of voice is misinterpreted for
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  Speaker 3: me all the time. With my accent, I mostly called
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  Speaker 3: Christy from Australia, which is probably the fastest way to
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  Speaker 3: piss me off. But I mean, I'll say It'sustralian if
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  Speaker 3: it helps my visa. But so yeah, we spiraled into
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  Speaker 3: this fitness career without really having any idea what we
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  Speaker 3: were creating, in the sense that we just wanted people
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  Speaker 3: to get fitter, faster, and that's what lasml's are really
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  Speaker 3: great at. They put so much science into their programming.
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  Speaker 3: So then that we came to the first time I
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  Speaker 3: ever came to New York was with Grit and we
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  Speaker 3: were teaching it in New Jersey and that was really cool.
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  Speaker 3: And first impressions of New York City, well, we came
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  Speaker 3: and it was the start of December, so it was
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  Speaker 3: very crisp, and you definitely don't need to own that
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  Speaker 3: level of jacket in New Zealand, so that was interesting
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  Speaker 3: for us, but it was cool. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of felt very startled. I felt like a
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  Speaker 3: little sheep in the city. And I remember going home
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  Speaker 3: to New Zealand and just being like I was starstruck.
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  Speaker 2: I guess about what New York was and the energy there.
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  Speaker 3: And thankfully my best friend Georgia of Howler, who's also
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  Speaker 3: a Kiwi, she lives here and she's lived here for
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  Speaker 3: years with modelings, so there was many more trips for
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  Speaker 3: me back to New York to stay with her and
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  Speaker 3: we'd run like it was my favorite thing. We'd do
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  Speaker 3: this thing called Workout Week and we'd go to like
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  Speaker 3: two or three classes a day and just trying out
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  Speaker 3: all the different workouts in New York and that was
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  Speaker 3: always so fun.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like some people's version of personal health.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know, and it's funny because like we're
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  Speaker 3: still that's still our most joyous thing that we can do.
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  Speaker 3: Now we just are obsessed with it. It's so funny too,
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  Speaker 3: how you. I mean, I definitely used to complain a
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  Speaker 3: lot the first year that I lived here. I'd be like,
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  Speaker 3: it's cold, it's hard, like you're on the subway with
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  Speaker 3: your groceries, like all these things. And then you get
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  Speaker 3: to the point where you just almost find this new
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  Speaker 3: level of resilience and you create those thick layers of
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  Speaker 3: skin and you're just like, okay, cool, Yeah it's hard,
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  Speaker 3: let's do it like it's cool. It becomes this, but
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  Speaker 3: then your tolerance for other people complaining becomes very low.
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  Speaker 2: I totally hear that.
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  Speaker 1: I was driving back into the city after going to
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  Speaker 1: a wedding this past weekend, and the car with my
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend who lives in Connecticut, and I see the skyline
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I love New York.
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  Speaker 2: She goes see like I hear you, and like it's
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  Speaker 2: nice to visit. But I get in there and it's
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  Speaker 2: like hectic and it's dirty and all these things. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: but it's home.
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  Speaker 3: It's home, And like, I mean, it's funny because like,
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  Speaker 3: I definitely have a beautiful view from the window of
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  Speaker 3: my apartment, and I always joke I'm like, oh, I'm paying.
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  Speaker 2: For that view.
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  Speaker 3: But like, I mean, you can't help it be excited
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  Speaker 3: when you get up in New York and there's a
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  Speaker 3: fire under your ass every day, because yeah, it's expensive
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  Speaker 3: to live here. Yeah so, and you have to be
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  Speaker 3: on top of your shit, like you're not here to coast.
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  Speaker 3: But I think I really love the energy and I
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  Speaker 3: love the people because they'll tell you too. They'll tell
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  Speaker 3: us you straight like if you have a shit idea,
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  Speaker 3: they can be like, oh, that's a shit idea, but
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  Speaker 3: what about if you did this?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think there's.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of other cities that really people are out
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  Speaker 3: there to help as much as that, And you accidently
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  Speaker 3: straight forward create a business. Every other day you're like, oh, whoops,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't mean to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But now we're on it. But now we're making protein.
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  Speaker 3: Founders and we're doing Pirro girls, and we're doing this,
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  Speaker 3: and we're doing this, and we're doing this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh God, tell me a little bit Okay, So you're
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  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles for the most part, with a few
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  Speaker 1: stinds to and from New York City, and then what happens?
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  Speaker 3: So I start traveling, Oh, I start working with Nike
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  Speaker 3: obviously from New Zealand. They found me in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 3: So first of all I was looking after New Zealand
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  Speaker 3: and Australia. And then I maybe after I'd been with
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  Speaker 3: them a year, I became a master trainer and that
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  Speaker 3: was still very new into the stages of them having
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  Speaker 3: master trainers, and back then people didn't really know what
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  Speaker 3: it meant.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what it meant.
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  Speaker 3: How did Nike first contact you? They I was teaching
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  Speaker 3: at the gym in New Zealand. Like as a side,
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  Speaker 3: I had three jobs. I was teaching at the gym,
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  Speaker 3: I was working in media, and I was doing the
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  Speaker 3: fitness CVDS. And they'd heard of me teaching in the
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  Speaker 3: gym and they were looking for a trainer in that area.
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  Speaker 3: So they came and sort of sort out my class
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  Speaker 3: and the and my first job I had to do
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  Speaker 3: was go for a five k run in Sydney and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, great, I'm going to ruin this before
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  Speaker 3: it starts. I hate running, and it turned out that
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  Speaker 3: it went fine. I can't actually run very well. I
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  Speaker 3: just have metal pins all through one knee, and so yeah,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: then we started working together and I remember like, I mean,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: this is New Zealand, right, so it's not a huge
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: market New Zealand or Australia.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: We were teaching workouts outside.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: We had no mic, we had no equipment, we were
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: fake jump roping.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: But the girls were so into it.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: So we had to keep scheduling more and more and
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: more Nike Training club workouts because it was so popular.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: And then so we Nike just we started getting more
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: work in Australia and New Zealand. So I started to
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: fly back and forth between Auckland and Sydney quite a bit.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: And then Trey Maria Sharapova during the Australian Open in
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: two thousand and fourteen, I think it would have been.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: And that was that was a maze. That was probably
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the biggest.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: I think my boyfriend at the time he said, I
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: didn't stop smiling for like three days, like I was
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: just like, oh my gosh, like I couldn't believe it.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: And she was so cool and she was tough, like
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: she was really out there making sure that the girls
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: worked and I I've always had such respect for her
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: if you've read her book, like her story is amazing.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: So after I had that moment.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Then the global team really started to take more notice
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: and I got to go to Portland that year, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: going to campus was one of my biggest dreams and
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: so that was really cool, and this is the Nike
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: the Nike campus, and then it was really also meeting
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of the other trainers too, and I was
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: very I was definitely the youngest out of the bunch,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: and so it was kind of intimidating coming in and
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: you're young and you're small, but so I think people
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: kind of maybe don't expect they don't know what to
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: expect from you, right, So that's why I always say
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: to people, I'm like, yeah, cool, be a surprise.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: It's really nice to surprise people.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: So I think they were pleasantly surprised when we did
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: some of the fitness tests and they're like, oh, this
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: kid's fit.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Forward another year and a bit from there, I got
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: my first workout on the Nike app and.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I was in the Nike Woman campaign.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: That was when I became one of the faces of
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Nike women, which was the first time that he was
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: six of their female master trainers in a big campaign,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: and that was a.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Huge moment for me.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: But simultaneously it was the moment where my relationship fell
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: apart with Les Mills, because I'd had to make a
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: choice of staying with Nike or going with Reebok, who
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: they'd partnered with for five years. And it was a
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: really pivotal moment for me because Grit was such a
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: huge part of my heart and who I was, and
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I loved it so much. But Nike had been my
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: dream since I was three years old, and I always
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: thought that I'd have to work in an office for them,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: because when you're little, you know, even growing up through school,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: you don't think there's such job as a master trainer,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and you didn't even think you're going to be a trainer.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: So I just couldn't lose this hope and this dream
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: of like what might happen with Nike. And I remember
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: when I was trying to make the decision, people were
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: saying me, They're like, this is the worst decision you're
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: going to make because.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: There's no guarantee with Nike.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: You haven't even done anything that major with them, and
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but I just owe it to
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: myself to know what happens, and I just wouldn't forgive
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: myself if I just had that wonder there all the time.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: So I was really proud of myself that I stuck
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: to it, and I think without me knowing, it made
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: me work even harder, even though there was the initial
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: heartbreak of having a like, I didn't leave grit straight away.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I was still working a lot behind the scenes, but
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: it's really hard when something's yours to hand it over.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: But I think that taught me a lot too about
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: how to be a support person and how to celebrate
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: other people, because it's not always about you. You want
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: to be a star in a constellation of stars. You
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: don't want to be a star on your own. So
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: if you can't celebrate other people, you need to really
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: look in the mirror and figure out why, because it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: something kind of dark in you if you can't be
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: excited for other people and you can't support them.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: So I totally totally hear that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like, especially I'm on your squad in the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: mindset that like, I love to show up and be
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: someone's cheerly I think everything. There's no better feeling just
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to be in someone's gang and be in their corner,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and I want to show up to your event and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to brag about you to everyone.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And then when when you take a step back and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you realize.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: That one moment or another that you have some feeling
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of resentment or confusion or confliction about seeing someone else's success,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Like celebrating someone else isn't going to dule what you're doing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly because you're running completely different races. This is where
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: comparison is tricky, because people start to run someone else's
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: race and then they end up somewhere they were never
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: even meant to be.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't waste your time trying to reroute.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Get back to your own vision and your own goals,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: because it's irrelevant. Like me and my friends, Like this
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: is why I'm so unapologetically obsessed with my friends. We
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: are so happy for each other all the time. There's
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: no competition, like it's just it's exciting and it's and
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: it elevates like the vibrational frequency of everyone when that's
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: the you know, yeah, that's it's an investment from all
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: of you collectively, like one person's thriving. Everyone's thriving. Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: and it's really motivating. But that was where I really learned. Okay,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I still want this program to be the best, even
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: though I'm not being involved with it. So when I'm
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: helping these other people put it together and present it,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: how can I help them be.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: The best to present that?
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: And that's also what I try and do with Nike,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: because you know, we would go around the world doing
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: these train the trainers, and you know, it's always it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: not about being like, okay, cool, I want you to
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: be ninety percent good, but I don't want you to
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: be as good as me or as good as Joe
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: or whatever. No, we want everyone to be great. So
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've always said, like I want to earn
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: everything that I get. I don't want to get it.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I don't even want to get it if it's easy
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: like I want it. I want to have to be great.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: To get it. Yeah, even if that means not getting
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And I always say to people too, when people are
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: like pissed off and mad and like, oh I didn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: get this and so and so should have gone like
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: they got it, And I'm da da da da and
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why are you even getting lost in that story?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, who even cares? Like all that energy you're
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: putting into this tantrum could be going back into your work,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: relook at your process and figure out why you didn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: get it maybe, And sometimes it's actually just like the
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: job isn't meant.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: For you, right right?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And I mean it's that whole idea of looking at
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: failure not as a failure, but as a stepping zone
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in your path. And so it's like when something goes wrong,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: instead of sitting there and dwelling on the fact that
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it went wrong or not as planned, you look at
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: what happened and it's like, Okay, how can I learn
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: from this situation?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, well that's why I mean, like Kobe is one
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of my favorite athletes, because you know how he would
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: watch all the tapes of himself and go through every
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: single thing that was wrong and try and fix it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: And I mean I think that so much of the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: time we don't want to look in with and be like, Okay,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: what did I do that didn't get me to hear?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: And like owning our shit.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I even think about that, not just
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: in business, but like in relationship.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Relationships, like put your pride aside.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah we hate we live once and I hate the
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: same yolo, but like we actually live once.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: That's a fact.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: If you can't invest in yourself and invest in your
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: life and invest in the people in your life. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: when I say invest, that's you know, wins and losses,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and sometimes you have to say, yeah, I'm responsible for
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: that loss and I'm sorry.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: And I learned and just learning to communicate.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I think for a lot of the time, I definitely
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: started to travel a lot with Nike, and I think
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: for a moment, it stopped me being as good of
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: a communicator because I was alone a lot of the time,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: and I was traveling around the world, like flying from
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: New Zealand all the time. There was one year that
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I think I was in New Zealand for maybe a
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: month and a half and I had a boyfriend who
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I loved and we had a cat, and you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: had all my friends there, and I missed so many moments.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And I definitely noticed that that time away, whilst I
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: was thriving with work, I stopped communicating as well, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: maybe put up a little bit of a defense wall
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: and wasn't as good at seeing what I was doing
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: wrong right to other people once I learned, You know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: that's what That's the beautiful thing about getting older when
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: you learn and being able to go back to people
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: and say hey, I'm sorry, right, Like, I don't think
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: it's ever too late to say I'm sorry.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I hear you. I totally hear you. I uh.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I think that it takes someone who's willing to put
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: like some pride or some ego aside, though, And if
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you have too much ego, I mean, that's not good
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: for anybody, no, but it's definitely not good for moving
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: forward in any relationship.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: You have to bans your ego.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I say this people all the time, and that's in work,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: in relationships, in a fitness class, like sometimes I'm like, yo,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: there is glory in a modification because maybe the advanced
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: move for you is taking the modification so you actually
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: get the move, right, Stop being like so ego driven
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that you think you have to do the most advanced
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: thing when you're not doing good technique.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Right, I've got to head to stop really quick and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: ask you about the pens on your knees.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Oh well, my brother and I used to do motocross.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: We grew up on a farm and we were both
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: riding up opposite sides of the hill and then saw
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: each other at the top and dodged the same way,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: and so my knee got caught in the aftermath of that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: But here's the kicker.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: We didn't want to tell our parents that we had
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: a crash because we didn't want to get the bike
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: singing office.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So we're like, let's just not say anything.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I kept playing water polo for like a good another
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: year on my knee, and so, you know, water polo,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: your egg beating all the time. You're just grinding your
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: knee around and around and around. And my friends at
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: school nicknamed me Bambi because I would just fall over
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: at random, like my knee would just collapse underneath me,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: and then it was really sore all the time.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: But I was such a sporty kid. I was like whatever.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: It got to the point I took myself in for
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: an X ray because I was like, this is weird.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I was fourteen, and the doctor was like this is wild,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Like how were you walking on this leg? Like there's
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: just bone everywhere, like misplaced, and my meniscus was gone basically,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: so how did they see.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You when you were fourteen without an adult present, You could.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Just like New Zealand is very chill. We also have
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: your housecare.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and because my mom was and she lived very
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: far in the country, and so you could just go
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: to the doctor and get next ray and and then
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: so I had to tell my parents.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit. I was like, so I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: got this X ray on my knee.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: And anyway, luckily good health insurance in New Zealand, because
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: like two weeks later I was having a knee operation
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: that had me on crutches for four months, which is
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: not what so they wait until I turned fifteen. The
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: day after my birthday, I had my operation, and I
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: was pretty excited because I got to have like three
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: weeks off school. Maybe one week into it, I was
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: so bored out of my brain's at home. I was
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: begging my mom to let me go back to school.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: And I couldn't really do any sport, which was really hard.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: But that I was like, man, my upper body strength
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: is like popping on these crutches.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Never got told that my knee wouldn't be able to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: move the way I needed a too for water polo,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: which was my number one sport I was playing at
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the time, so I jumped back in the pool once
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I'm cleared off my crutches, only to like end up
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: in tears because I get it and I realize my
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: knee doesn't even move that way. You should watch me
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: do a breaststroke. It is hilarious. It's like, it's just
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: this dead frog leg out the side. I'm going list
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: for next time I find you. Well.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I was really sad, and my dad was. My dad
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: was very calm about it. He's like, you know what,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: like you still are allowed to do all these other
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: things they've said. You can't ski, you shouldn't run much,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and water polo is clearly not happening because you're not
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: egg beating very well. But I could still play netball.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And he was like, you have to be grateful for
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the things you can do. I was like, that's true.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: So I just got even more obsessed with my other sports.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: And actually the greatest thing about it was I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: that that was what made me so invested in strength
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: training once I started properly training the gym, because I
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is cool, Like you can have
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: an injury, but you can actually almost come back better. Like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: if you watch videos of me moving, you'll notice I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: jump a lot, and I'm not on the ground often,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and I'm often upside down and I'm.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Doing all these things.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I have mental pins everyone knee, but I
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: have the strength and stability in that leg from training
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and doing proper recovery to allow me to do that
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and following some rules like yeah, I don't ski, So
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: when everyone goes away on these awesome skiing holidays, I'm like, Nope,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to a beach.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Miami or something.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But I guess it's that same thing too, Like what's
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: the point in complaining when really the point is it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: a celebration, Like you're lucky you can still do this.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So I try and tell people that all the time
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: when they get an injury, I'm like, this is actually
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the coolest thing that's going to happen to you, because
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you're going to become way more strategic and precise with
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: your movement patterns, and also you're going to be way
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: more grateful for your body.
• 27:48
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting down here with kst Godso she's a Nike
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Master Trainer. Okay, so you are in in and out
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: of LA in and out of New York working with Nike.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You're done with Leeds Mills and then like, then what happens?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Then? I was coming to America so much actually that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I came through the airport at one stage and I
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: got held in customs for five hours and they were like.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Like you were here a lot, and I was like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: it's true, and this is I told the truth. And
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, look, I come in in and out
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: all the time, but I don't get paid to work
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: here or anything. And they're like, okay, you just need
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to get a visa because you're here more than you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: in your home country. And I was like, that's fair.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So I actually then was given a call to action.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I have to get my visa.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: And I was excited because I'd always wanted to move
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: to the States, but I kind of almost needed that
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: push and that little scare to go and get it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And then so I luckily I had a really great
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: immigration lawyer, and then you know, eight weeks later.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I had my visa.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And I mean I stayed in the States then for
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: three months and then went home to New Zealand for
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: six weeks while I waited for my visa, and I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: in the meantime had been reached out to you by Equinox.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: It was always one of the companies when I'd wrote
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: for Liz Mils, I always just say, oh, man, we
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: need to be more like Equinox, Like they know what
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: they want and they're really like out there with their
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: marketing and you know, they have a point of view
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: and they're not trying to not offend everyone. And I
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: thought that was really cool, and so I'd always wanted
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: to work with them. And I always say to people,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I really believe you speak things into existence and you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: you have to manifest your dreams and vocalize them. Don't
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: tell everyone, but like make yourself accountable to them.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: One of my goal, one of my goals for October whatever,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what month are we in?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: All? October is almost over?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: When of my goals for October was to come up
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: with three affirmations that I'm going to say every day
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: for like goals that are within the next two years.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: One of them, I'll share this with you, Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Tell me now, I'll hold you accountable and everyone else
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: everyone guys DM every day.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of a pathetic goal.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Actually, someone else is going to accept my packages by
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty, So That could mean I live in a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: doormand building.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It could mean I have my own office.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe I have an amazing apartment with my own office
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that's also in a doormand building. But by twenty twenty,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that's happening, someone's accepting the package. I bet you that's
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: happening by twenty nineteen. I'm cutting a year off that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe mid twenty nineteen. Okay, all right, so anyway affirmation.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So Equinox reached out. They wanted me to design
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: a gym for them. They were they wanted to explore
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: a new space and have a way that people that
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: weren't Equinox members could come and work out in the
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: space that was really pushing new and upcoming things in
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the fitness industry. So it was for trainers that were
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: trying things out. It could basically be kind of a
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: lab for both trainers and also Equinox for them to
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: innovate on new types of programming. So I worked in
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: the corporate office to help get project ready to open,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and then once project opened, I switched back to just
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: teaching for them there alongside all the work that I
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: do for Nike. The reality of my life is and
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I'm with Nike. Nike is my husband. You know, I
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: am with them most of the time, So anything else
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: that I do has to come second to that, and
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: that's a choice by me. So that's how I structure
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: my life.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Do you think that there have been things in your
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: life that have come second to that that have been
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: hard to deal with?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I definitely put my boyfriend second to that from New
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Zealand for years and he was incredibly patient about it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: And friendships and you know, it wasn't that I wasn't
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: there for my friends, but I missed weddings, I missed.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I missed a lot. But I also wouldn't.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: My story wouldn't be my story without everything that I've
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: done with Nike. And it's pretty crazy to say, like
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you've grown up with Nike, like to be with them
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: basically from like twenty two to now thirty is really cool.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know anything else. That's been my whole life.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So yes, there's been other offers and things that have
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: come in, and you know, people will throw money at
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you and they want this and they want that, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but that that's not in line
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: with my soul, right, that's not what I what I
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: believe in like sometimes you know, we forget you just
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: get so in the motion of the work and what
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you're doing and blah blah. I don't sit there necessarily
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and think about my role with Nike that much.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about what.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I'm doing and what I can be doing, and what
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: we can be doing to service people better. I'm not
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: ever there being like, oh, well I'm in that campaign
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: or like I designed a shoe.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: But you also you can get a bit lost in
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: the work that sometimes you don't celebrate moments as much
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: as maybe you used to.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I totally hear that. So talk to me a little
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: bit about what it was like.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: The first time that you actually saw yourself like in
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: a campaign.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I remember the first time that they told me
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: that I got to work out on the app. So
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: that was one of the first goals that I set
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: out loud. And I always used to say to my
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: boyfriend in New Zealand. I was like, you know, when
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: something really awesome happens in my career, I'm going to
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: myself like that Cartier ring that I really wanted. And
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: he was like, well, maybe you need to specifically state
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: what it is because you keep saying when something awesome happens,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and these great things keep happening and you don't buy
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: the ring. And I was like, fine, if I get
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: to work out on the Nike App, I'll buy the ring.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: We shook on it. Literally four weeks later.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I get told after We've wrapped this event in Melbourne
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: and I've just been training with Victoria Azarenka and all
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: these girls, which was really cool, and they tell me
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: they sent me down.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: They're like, Hege, we got to tell you something. I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: was like, oh God, what did I do?
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: And they're like, you booked a Nike campaign and you're
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: getting a workout on the app. And I just bawled
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: my eyes out, and I was like, I've got to
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: call my dad and then and I was so proud
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: and I was so excited. So then we shot the
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: campaign in Mexico City, which is really funny because I
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: trained so hard before I was going to film this.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I was a user of the Nike App before I
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: even worked for Nike, so this was a big moment
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: for me. We trained so hard to get there for
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the shoot and then to have the altar you'd like
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: knock us on our ass, like it is you do
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: like three burpies and you're like, oh my gosh, so dizzy.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: So that was funny.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: And it came out maybe five months after we shot it,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: and it was definitely a really special moment. It was
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: really cool, and it wasn't even about It wasn't even
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: for other people to see it and be like, oh,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: it was just for me to be like, whoa. That
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: was something I really thought, dreamed and I made it happen.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Did you buy the ring? I bought the ring? So
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I told Nike the story. When we're in mixed the
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: city doing no I wish they should have. I told
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: them the story. And then maybe three weeks after that,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: we started on the Nike tour and the first stop
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: was Hong Kong and there was a cartier attached to
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: our hotel. So two of the girls that were there
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: and knew the story, who worked on the Nike team,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: They're like, Okay.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: You're going to get your ring. I was like, oh
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: my god, okay.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: And the funny thing is, I remember some of my
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: friends at the time were like, what a brat like?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh my god, how dare you like?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: This is a big thing? Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I every time when I wear that ring, I'm like, yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: this reminds me of hard work. But then the funniest
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: thing was the second workout I got on the app.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Everyone was like, okay, as you're getting yourself another Katier ring,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, no, oh, buy one if I get
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: a shoe, And then I had a shoe come out
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: this year with Nike, and I was like, I'm definitely
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: just for the record, guys, I'm not buying another ring, Like.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I don't need one. I don't even wear my rings
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: because I'm always in the gym.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: But I think for me, it was more of like
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: a having a token of something to look at and
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: be like, that's what hard work.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: God to say, that's what hard work looks like. Hard
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: work looks like Katier.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: No, but like to a reminder, it's a visual reminder
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and something I can touch in tangible to be like, Okay,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: you can dream, but can you work for your dreams.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I love it, and I love that you're like all
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: about hard work because I think a lot of people
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: kind of hope for something, or they wish for something,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: or they feel like if they say it out loud
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: enough that like maybe one day it'll happen. And I'm
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: not not to say again back to this affirmation thing
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that like there's no power that But if you're not
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: willing to do the work, then how are you entitled
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to the reward?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Well, also, if you don't want to work for it,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: then when you get there, what is yours?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: What do you have to share with people?
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Because your energy comes from everything that you know you've
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: put into something, so you want that energy to be
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: bright and be pyro essentially, as we would say, you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: and there's a difference when you especially as a trainer,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: you cannot ask people to do stuff that you can't
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: do yourself, Like you need to know what it's like
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: to go through this stuff. And that's why I always
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: started out when I used to teach group classes, I
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: did the whole workout with everyone. So I'm like, yep,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I know you're feeling like crap. I disputed my mouth
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and swallowed it and had to keep teaching. That actually
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: happened quite a few times. I totally feel that, But
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, there's definitely it's been interesting as years
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: have gone by and social media has become a big thing,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and I think that's become a different way for people
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: to maybe think that that's work right, And yes, like
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I share a lot on social but never like, even
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: when I share workouts, I filmed the drills after I've
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: done my workout, So it's actually sometimes my form isn't
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: as good because I'm exhausted because I've just trained for
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: like sixteen to ninety minutes or something.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: But my work has to come first, and that's a
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: rule on everything.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about how social media
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: has kind of changed the game maybe for you or
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: altered some of the things you're doing on the regular.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, So I would say I think social media is
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: great in terms of being able to communicate with people
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: and share with people, and I think there's a lot
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: of positives in that sense. I also think social media
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: is a huge time suck, so you have to be
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: disciplined with it. And actually, maybe six months ago now,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I stopped scrolling the feed and that was one of
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: the best things I ever did, because I really took
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: some inventory on my life and I was like, I'm.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Not reading as many books anymore, I'm.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Not reading the news, I'm not you know, doing a
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: lot of these things where really, if I had time,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: then I should be investing in something a little bit
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: better than looking at just photos of stuff, Like I'll
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: go directly to my friends' pages to see this stuff,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: but I don't need to scroll through the feed of
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: like seven hundred and something people that you follow, and
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I see all this clutter and have it in your
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: head that often without you realizing before you know it,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: it makes you feel.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: The type of way about something.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I try and new social media as a
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: way to share energy with people and be like, whether
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: that be how I like to style things, workouts, I'm
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: doing things I like, Yes, I do share like when
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I travel and stuff.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: It's also a way for my family and my friends
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: back home to see what I'm doing totally.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: But there's a majority of my life you actually won't
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: see on social and so I think a lot of
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the time people are like, oh, you worked out like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: four times that I'm like, no, no, that was just
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I don't film often the people that I'm training because
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I respect their privacy and when we're working, like my
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: phone is away, like I'm fully focused on them. I'm
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: very hands on with my training, Like if you train
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: with me, like it's you're getting.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Adjusted a lot.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's very like I want the best
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: for everyone that I work with, but it's an energy exchange,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: so we both have to be there and fully in there,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not tolerating them being on their phone at
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: the same time either.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting this idea that like people just
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: feel like they know everything about your life. Oh, absolutely,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you're only sharing like it's a highlight reel. I think
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the funniest thing is when people write something like, oh
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: my god, are you okay? You look really sick blah
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: blah blah something if they think you might look too
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: thin or something like that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, so bizarre, because you actually don't even know me,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: like you've never met.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Like, and I have a lot of friends, Like my
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: best friend's a model, and I think some of the
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: things that people write on her stuff are wild, Like
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: they're just things that she's like my baby sister, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: it's things that I'd never hope for her to ever
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: have to read.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: And someone would say.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: When she's the most hard working, kind, caring, intelligent girl. Yes,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: she happens to be ridiculously good looking and be a
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Victoria's Secret model and many other things, but what makes
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: her her and so uniquely her are not these things
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: that people just make an assumption about. And you know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: so I always say with people that are busy being
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: keyboard warriors, I'm like, why don't you take that energy
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: into the gym, because you'll bet her off, like focusing
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: on your own life. But I think with social media
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: it's allowed for a lot of comparison. And that's where
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I would come back to people and say, well, if
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you use it as a tool for collaboration and as
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a tool as a way to share ideas and all
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: these other things, then that's really cool. But if you
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: find that you have a slightly violent relationship with it
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: and it makes you, well, exert some self control and
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: get off.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It right right.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: And I mean you said, you said you've limited your
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: use over the past six months, So I'm going to
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: transition us a little bit into just like a work
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: life balance, yes, because obviously they are the people on
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: your install that are like, all you do is work out, Yeah,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: but that's not all you do. So talk to me
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: about the Kursty that's like not at nike HK.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Well, the Kirsty that is not she's very weird. I
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: actually always say to people that weird as a compliment.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I've always been quite extra. My mom said, I was
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: like having triplets. My poor brother grew up with me
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: as his tag along to everything, like I was the
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: psycho tomboy, Like I just wanted to do everything that
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: he was doing. And I'm really I hope that when
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I have daughters, and I hope I get daughters, that
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: they're little tomboys too, because I think it. I imagine you
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: were a tomboy too. You're sitting here with your cat
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: backwards because it's just the you know, and when I'm
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: not seen working out, like working out is my greatest joy,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Like nothing makes me happier. And I honestly really do
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: not care about Like you can take pretty much everything
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: away from me.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Don't take my friends, don't take my workout time.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Obviously my family and my cat, but you know, like
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: those are the things that really matter to me the most.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: It's not my possessions or anything like that. I don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: care about money in the bank. I don't whatever it is. Yes,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I have a finance degree, so that's funny to say.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: But working out was always my way to celebrate things,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: my way to get through things, like just to recalibrate
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: on anything, and I love it. And that's why I
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: became a trainer because I wanted to share that with
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: other people. And at the time, it wasn't cool to
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: be a trainer and it was kind of like crass
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: a little to work out and stuff. So it's been
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: really interesting to watch that industry evolve. But I always
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: say I'm in the business of bodies, So my business
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: is outside of just training as Pyro Girls, which yes,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: is a workout that we have and we sell merchant stuff,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: but Pyro is really more of a spirit that we
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: want people to embody, and our vision is that ideally
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: we end up being able to sponsor different Pyro girls
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: and boys. It's not like we now shorten it often
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: to just saying Pyro because it is actually men and women.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: But we want to be able to have people in
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: communities that are being supported in all different cities around
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: the world that being Pyro is something you can come
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: back to, be the fire that burns inside out and
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: care about what you do. Because I always find it
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: funny if people say I don't really care, I'm like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: you should care, like it's your life. Please invest in
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: it like you know and not to the point where
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: it's about care about everything, but just have a point
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: of view and like it or don't like. It's about
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: not complaining, like and taking action on things and just
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: doing stuff and going after things.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, So that's why, you know.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: So we have Pyro goals, which is cool, and that
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: feels just like it's a mission and that's like something
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: that's just always there and that's fun and that's a
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: fun way for me to collaborate with other people and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: other businesses like skyting and prevail boxing and stuff like that.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Then I have a protein powder called made of I
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: have to learn to pronounce that better with my accent
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: because everyone thinks I say, like Bernie made off, but
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: like made wasn't even in my going there, just in
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: case for the translation. But the protein really came from
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: I was so frustrated with the non transparency in the industry.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: And you work with people all.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: The time to try and make them feel better about
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: and then they're taking products that they genuinely are being
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: told are good for them, and companies can lie on
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: the packaging and everything like that, and people are just misinformed.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: So then they're fueling yourself with crap really. So we
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: started working with a lab and we made a protein
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: that we really wanted to be super high performance, but
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: we wanted it to be beautiful so that even people
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: that don't consider themselves to be really high performing in
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: the gym, but they just want to take care of
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: their body, that it would appeal to both of those
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: natures of people.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: So, like, how does one even go about like, oh
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I started working with a lab, Like, yeah, I just had.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: A lab on my on my cell. I just figured
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and I hit them up. Yeah, I just had them up.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Well, it came from like I was actually I was
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: complaining to my ex and I was like, I'm so
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: angry and there's like these sites like labed or that
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: expose you know, what truly is in products. And he's like, well,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: what are you going to do about it? And I
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: was like I guess, yeah, what am I going to
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: do about it? So we started together working on it,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and he Creative Studios, so he was really great with
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: all the branding stuff, and we put ourselves through a
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: physical trial for like six to eight weeks trying all
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: these different products, all these other brands out there. We
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: vomited a lot. There's a lot of bad stuff on
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: the market.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Money spent too, but we wanted to know that we
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: were definitely doing this for a reason, and so then
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: after that we're like, Okay, this definitely needs to happen.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And we were in that process, we really learned a
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: lot about ingredients and from researching and doing a lot
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: of stuff. So our first sample that we made was pretty.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Much spot on to what we ended up with as
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the final product.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: We still tried a few variations from there, but we
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: wanted to make a very clean and functional way protein isolate.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: It's way protein because that's what's authentic to me, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I think that's important to stay in your lane with that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: I celebrate people that use plant protein if that's what
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: works for them. But way protein is the highest quality
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: protein that you can take. So and if that works
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: for you, awesome, take it. Take a good one. You
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: don't need all this other garbage in there. So I
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: was like, what if I could become this communicator to
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: people and try and make them understand why you take protein,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: what's in it, why it matters what's in it, and
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: how you use it in your life. And again, like
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: the fitness thing, have it not be so tacky. So
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: that's why our packaging looks very beautiful and accessible.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: And even the.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Serving suggestions says, you know, mix with six eight ounces
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: of water and consume without most confidence and what's it
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: called again?
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Made of Okay?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And for someone that doesn't know any better, how much
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: protein should they be consuming after say a forty five
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: minute high intent tannibal, So you.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Would have like one scoop of protein. So each scoop
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: of our protein has twenty four grams of protein in it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Some have nineteen grams, so ours is a little bit higher,
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: which is great because if you're having it as a
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: meal replacement, like say, if you end up making a
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: bigger smoothie as opposed to just a post workout shake,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: it does leave you feeling full for longer. So that's
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: been cool that we have these moms, even moms that
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: like don't necessarily do high intensity they're like super into
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: their pilates and yoga stuff, that their morning ritual is
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: a smoothie and they've switched on to using it and
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh my gosh, like I'm actually snacking way
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: less because I feel really full. And I was like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: that's cool because My whole goal with it is I
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: just want people to feel confident in what they're ingesting.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah and so yeah, so one scoop post workout is great.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: I think it's perfect for New York Is too, because
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of the time we are on the goal. Yeah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: so we don't always have time for a meal. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: always say, you know, eat proper food when you can
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: have food, but use protein to support the training that
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: you're doing and to support your recovery.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: You mentioned that you especially like never take away my
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: workout like your workout is it keeps you sane. So
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I guess my follow up question for you, what was
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: one of the last times in your life that you
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: really felt like maybe you were going extra in the gym? Like,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: what has been something that you've been trying to work
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: through maybe more lately.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Well, this is funny because actually recently I had a
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: nerve injury.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Dude, I have one of those. I have my hiatic nerve.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a bad one, cute. I have never felt
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've had injuries in my life. I had
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: broken knee, I've you know, broken a lot of bones.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: That was the most invasive pain I've ever felt in
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: my life where I was really scared because the I
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: was flying a lot this summer between LA and New York,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: and there was times where I was coming back for
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: all of like eighteen hours, then getting back on a
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: plane and then doing it again and getting off Red
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Eyes and going straight to work and going to shoots
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: and doing all these things. And I don't sleep well
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: as it is, so I was really taking my body
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: for granted. And I've basically been putting it through eight
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: years of high intensity and a lot of stuff, and yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: doing recovery here and there, but not as much as
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I should and definitely not sleeping as much as I should.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: And so I definitely there were signs for my body
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: saying slow down before it happened. And then that was
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: the last queue and it was like, okay, you're not
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: going to listen, like well physically stop you. And I
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: remember Christy Jones is one of my one of my
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: wives and one of my best friends who were on
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: skyting Yoga, and she'd bought me acupuncture for my birthday
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: with acupuncture session because we're obsessed with it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And I remember having a caller and I was like crying.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm so much pain, like with my
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: nerve and I can't move, and like I was on
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: the street trying to walk to get to the session,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: and then I get in there and I'm trying to
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: fill out paperwork and I'm like hunched over, and the poor.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Secretary leaders like are you okay.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: It's like I don't know what's going on, and I'm
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: not a drama queen, like if anything, I'll try and
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: hide an injury, like I didn't want Nike to know.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't want I was embarrassed in a sense because
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I knew i'd done it to myself.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I ended up going.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: At the time, I still just was like, oh, maybe
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: I've performed syndrome, you know, trying to self diagnose.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: And anyway, it ended up being.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Once I went to the doctors and then they had
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: a like a virus in my nerve, which so it
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: can feel like a lot of muscle pain, but actually
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: it's it's total burnout. And so they're like, you really
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: have to look at your schedule and make some adult
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: decisions here. So I had to turn down some jobs
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: in LA and I had to really stay put. The
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: best thing that happened was i'd felt really tired of
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: New York, and I wasn't enjoying it, and I felt
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: like some of my positive light was escaping me because
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I just was so swallowed in the tornado of work
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: and not having enough time to recover. So I had
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: to slow down. And actually, the funny thing is when
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I say slow down, I still within that one week
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: went to Drake three times. But slow down and look
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: at and do things differently, and so you just got
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: to be in your Yeah, right, I exactly Drake helps,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: he's part of the recovery plan. Still waiting for him
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: to call me. So I did. I love yoga and plarties.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I've really added that in a lot more over the
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: past year, even before I was injured, but I really
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: slowed down with a lot of my training was just
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: focusing on yoga and parties, doing a lot of cryo
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: in forred sauna, and focusing on sleep. Yeah, and now
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: I feel a lot better and I'm working on getting
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: my strength back in that leg. But I'm like, Okay,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I can't lose what I learned from that recovery process,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: and that's really about self care, like focusing on breath,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: my plates, traina cales a vampire breathing when we are
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: like just all stuck up on our chest, which I
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: think is what we all do when we feel a
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: sense of overwhelm. So it's funny that that's the opposite
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: of what you'd expect for me to answer and say
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: being dialed into training. But it was dialing into my
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: training being like, Okay, how are you going to train
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: more efficiently?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's nerve pain is a really tough thing.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I have a bad nerve in my foot, and like,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you were on the street, you were trying
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: to get into the accupuncture studio, Like, there's nothing worse
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: than feeling just debilitated, and there's pretty much nothing you
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: can there's.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Nothing, you can do nothing, And like what like call
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: your parents in New Zealand cool and complained about how
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: bad healthcare is here, not helping either, So yeah it
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean, that was a good opportunity to
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: look inwards. But I was very conscious of the fact
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: that I ask my clients all the time to be
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: really smart with their bodies, but I wasn't being smart
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: with mine.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, all the time I'll have all
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: of these conversations with the amazing people that come into
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: this room and before they walk in, they're like, these
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: are what I think my problems were.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: You know, like I.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Really felt like when I was giving up Blais Mills,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: it was such a hard time. And yes, please, it
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: was a very hard time. But then you talk about
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: your journey and you realize that they never stop. And
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: whether or not you're in a health and wellness field,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: like you're obviously a master trainer and this has become
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: your life, but whether or not you're in this industry,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: like there are so many times in our lives where
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: we're gonna dial it in to our bodies and how
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: we feel and all of that to just be better.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, be better, And like what is it? I mean,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: like you say, like that's my thing. Don't take my
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: work cuts from me? And guess what. I took them
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: from myself because I couldn't walk. What do you sew that?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: What are you? What are you still doing.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: To this is and this infrared light? Okay, well I'm
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: just gonna say because I mean I'll own it real quick.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Like with my I have a neuroma, which is an
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: inflame nerve in my left foot, and I'm training for
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a marathon.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Because that's brilliant. Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Great, And what is interesting is when it doesn't bother me.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: You know, It's like when you're taking It's like when
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you're taking a Z pack and they're like, after four
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: days you feel better. Yeah, they're like, but take it
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: through seven. Yeah, this is that's recovery.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to keep And I'm really fortunate that
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I work with brands like Powered Art and High Price,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: so I have a lot of like recovery equipment. But
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: I'd say, like, I'm obsessed with infrared light, so I
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: actually have my own like little infrared light thing that
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: wraps around you so I can put that over my
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: nerve when.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I'm at home in apartment spaceship.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's really cute, and but it's great because
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: it forces me to sit down and do my work
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: and emails and stuff like that. But yeah, like making
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: recovery a habit just like everything else. And I actually
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: say to people all the time, I'm like, hey, if
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: you don't have time to warm up properly, then you
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: don't deserve to work out, like you know, treat your
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: body with respect. It's like if you just decided to
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: skip out a part of like really important.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Part of cooking a meal.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: What would you say are other things in your life
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: that you wish you gave more attention to, Maybe as
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: much attention as you give to your level of fitness.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just feel like I'm turbo all
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: the time, and I'm not very good at calm.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Are you tired of that? Ever?
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Sometimes, Like I love I love being energetic, but there's
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of the time where you kind of get
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: to there. I get to a Friday and I'm like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: I am rinsed dry, and like I work in the
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: weekends too, so I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I need to figure this out, like get some more sleep.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: And you know, actually it's crazy because now it's funny
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: that I end up shooting beauty campaigns, which I still
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: loll about a lot. But I was like, I can't
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: be a trainer, a businesswoman, a friend like Piro girl,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: and a model. I guess with these some things if
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not finding some time for myself to actually just sleep.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: And calm down and be quiet.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: And so I think I'm very good at putting everyone
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: else before myself. Yeah, all the time, And sometimes I
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing that I've walked on this yere saying no, yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's also hard.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: When you feel like you're on all the time and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: then like the second not allowed to have a moment,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: but the second you like do turn off. For me,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I've been like really trying to deal with this. Actually,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: just like the second I turn off, it's like, all
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I feel like very unsure and like
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like I should be doing.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Something else, or I should be editing a podcast, or
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: like God knows what I should be doing.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: But it's like I'll have these really exciting, big events
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: and the next day I'll like say to a.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Friend like I feel like really kind of unsure right now.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like it's like it's like there's a
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it's like there's a decline relaxation almost.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: It's so much.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: It's funny though, because I've definitely got better at having
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: like this. It's like a reboot that kicks them straight away.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Like the moment that I start to get into a
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: whirlwind with a thought, I immediately override it. And it
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: sounds really stupid when I say it out loud, but
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: I just remind myself. I'm like, oh my god, like
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: this day happens once, Like I have so many things
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: to be grateful for, Like, oh my god, why am
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I living in overwhelmed? I'm like, you thrive for this shit, right,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: like you want you want to work for it. You've
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: always worked for everything you have, So why are you
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: overwhelmed by this task list of things that you have
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Like, get it done, get it done. You can do it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: You've done other shit before and sometimes yep, you've got
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: to have a nap, okay, and don't beat yourself up
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: about of it. You're gonna have a nap, then you're
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: gonna get back up and you're gonna get through the list.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: But I think it's just not letting us get too
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: far into our story of you know, being like whoa,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: it's me.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Like totally and I mean we we are the people
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: that talk to ourselves the most every single day, right.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if you're going to be a to yourself
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: all your time.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Joe always says it the best Joe Holder, he always says,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: you know, the mind is the gym that we live
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: in for like twenty three hours of the day, so
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: get it right. Yeah, yeah, And we're definitely a work
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: in progress all of us with that, but you know,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: hold yourself accountable to it. Like if you know you
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: have a habit of getting into a dark spiral with things,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: and if you know there's certain things that kick it off,
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: whether that be Instagram or different or like conversations with
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: certain people. I always talk about energy zappas, like sometimes
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: you know there's a reason why you as you get
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: older in life, like friendships change, yeah, and you have
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: to you have to figure out, like, hey, is this
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: a detrimental relationship or voice in my life? And it's
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: not about running away from people that sort of tell
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: you the truth. But like if there's someone that's just
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: a really like dark like light all the time, maybe
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: it's less time with them. And there are people that
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: are dreams and there are people that have You need
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: energy walls up, but also save some energy for yourself.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: And it's like body tax, right, You can't you can't
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: give everything out. You can't give all of your energy away.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: You have to keep a certain amount to pay that
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: tax back to yourself.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Looking over the past eight or so years that you
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: have been with Nike, what do you think has been
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: some of the best advice.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: That you have been given. Oh, aside from obviously just
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: As I from obviously just do it, I think that
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: I love that Nike always celebrated me being a hype girl,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: and they made me be proud and want to own
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: that even more. Like and when I say hype girl,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: like because we always joke that that's my role, it's
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: because I love everyone so much and I love the
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: squad and I want to pull everyone's energy up. So
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  Speaker 3: that's why I often get to lead things because they're
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  Speaker 3: like she will like fight for everyone, like she wants
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  Speaker 3: everyone as a group to do better and to do
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  Speaker 3: well and to make sure everyone's feeling happy.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think that I just love that they
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  Speaker 2: that they've.
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  Speaker 3: Allowed me to be this weird version of myself and
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  Speaker 3: sharing these crazy passions and and so we have this
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: joke like on levels of appropriateness of like Keyance is
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  Speaker 3: my stage name. So sometimes in some for some events
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  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, go out and be Keyance, and sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it's like, hey, just be KG today, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: depending on the market. But it's it's been really cool
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  Speaker 3: to have have a brand there as so much of
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  Speaker 3: your story, and I think people so often say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: brands aren't your friends and that yeah, okay, maybe that's true.
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  Speaker 2: But also maybe they.
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  Speaker 3: Are, like I mean, like they're a huge part of
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  Speaker 3: my story. They always will be. Like that's a fact.
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  Speaker 3: I think that they definitely built this this fire in me.
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  Speaker 3: They showed me what was possible. They teased me with
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  Speaker 3: you know, all these different cities that I traveled with,
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  Speaker 3: these people that I met, all these all these things,
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  Speaker 3: and they just made me so driven.
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  Speaker 2: To want more and more and more. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: how we met. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: What you you have the opportunity to offer yourself one
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  Speaker 1: piece of advice to the Kirsty that is making this epic,
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  Speaker 1: monumental decision to go with Nike, and she's confused and
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  Speaker 1: she's crying, and she's probably very unsure.
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  Speaker 2: What do you tell her looking back on it?
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  Speaker 3: Now, take a deep breath, listen to your heart, and
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  Speaker 3: don't worry about what anyone else does to you. I
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  Speaker 3: love it because majority of the time, like you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: what the point of view is irrelevant, you know, within yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And I still remember when I had to write my
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  Speaker 3: email making my decision to them, and I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: no matter what, like no matter what, I choose. I
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  Speaker 3: look like it's going to be hot breaking for me
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  Speaker 3: either way. But I have to follow what I truly
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  Speaker 3: feel in my heart, and that's overwhelmingly Nike. And so
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  Speaker 3: I just say to people, I'm like, don't be afraid
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  Speaker 3: to trust the unknown, but then be prepared to work.
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  Speaker 3: I like it, Yeah, I love it. It'll be the
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  Speaker 3: best guest you ever put in your tank. Seriously, your
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  Speaker 3: perspective is mega refreshing. Chirsty, thanks so much for coming
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  Speaker 3: in today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. This has been awesome.
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