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Deesha Thosar on Yankees “running it back” presser, Hal blames players + Mets interested in PCA’s HC? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Fox Sports MLB reporter Disha Tozar back on FT with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, Disha.
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  Speaker 1: And the Yankees are going to steal a day of
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  Speaker 1: attention here, at least a few hours from the World
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  Speaker 1: Series when Hal Steinbrenner speaks and Brian Cashman is getting re-signed.
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  Speaker 1: And Aaron Boone is not. He's just a lame duck
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  Speaker 1: heading into the season. So I think I set the
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  Speaker 1: tone here. What did you learn from the press conference
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  Speaker 1: and how are you?
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 4: Good to see you guys. What did I learn from
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  Speaker 4: the press conference? Not much, right? The Yankees are running
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  Speaker 4: back the same dialogue, very much the same thing everyone
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  Speaker 4: expected them to say. A lot of it was disappointment
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  Speaker 4: every year, right? Hal Steinbrenner, Brian Cashman, Aaron Boone say
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  Speaker 4: the same things. The second thing out of their mouths
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  Speaker 4: is always, well, but we did a great job and
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  Speaker 4: this team is so talented and we really can't find
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  Speaker 4: any flaws. In fact, every time they lose and right
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  Speaker 4: kind of flunk out of the postseason against better teams,
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  Speaker 4: it goes back to improvements that they made. And I
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  Speaker 4: think for me, right, this all goes back to pointing
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  Speaker 4: to just how out of touch this Yankees leadership group is,
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  Speaker 4: not just right now, but for the past several years,
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  Speaker 4: which is why I think a lot of these wrap
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  Speaker 4: up press conferences at the end of another disappointing season
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  Speaker 4: are just groundhogs day at this point for Yankees fans.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe next year you'll, you won't show up because
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  Speaker 3: they're just going to say the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this year is easy to show up because it
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  Speaker 4: was a zoom. So you kind of have to, to
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  Speaker 4: make it there, but yeah, no. And in person, right.
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  Speaker 4: I think it does offer a different kind of understanding that,
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  Speaker 4: that we don't get right now. We don't get to
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  Speaker 4: talk to Hal Steinbrenner ever. Sometimes he's at the, Ownership
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  Speaker 4: meetings once a year. The fact that this was on
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  Speaker 4: a Zoom where you couldn't kind of pull them away
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  Speaker 4: after and ask them more hard questions. They can't really
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  Speaker 4: control who's talking. I didn't love that. I think that,
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  Speaker 4: of course, the reason being was Hal Steinbrenner and Brian
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  Speaker 4: Cashman are in South Florida right now. So for convenience sake,
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  Speaker 4: at least we got to talk to them before the
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  Speaker 4: offseason got away from them.
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  Speaker 3: OK, Hal's not wrong. They have a talented team. And
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  Speaker 3: he's not wrong. They had a successful season in the
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  Speaker 3: regular season. Do you think they're willing to make the
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  Speaker 3: changes with the organization to be what George used to want?
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  Speaker 3: Is no matter what, we have to win. We have
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  Speaker 3: to win the World Series. Do you think that's truly
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  Speaker 3: their focus? Or have they leaned into the baseball mantra
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  Speaker 3: of We're going to do our best. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: put the best team out there. And gosh darn it,
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  Speaker 3: we are likable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they definitely want to win. There is
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  Speaker 4: still a huge separation gap here between what they consider
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  Speaker 4: doing enough is and what it actually takes to do it.
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  Speaker 4: I think whatever Hal Steinbrenner is looking at that he saw,
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  Speaker 4: his leadership group did a really good job again this season.
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  Speaker 4: He pointed to Brian Cashman and essentially said he never
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  Speaker 4: makes mistakes, paraphrasing, but he said Cashman always does a
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  Speaker 4: great job every year. Aaron Boone, he thought, did an
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  Speaker 4: excellent job this year. And yet, right, we keep saying,
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  Speaker 4: seeing the same problems getting to this team when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to October. They're great at running the gauntlet in
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  Speaker 4: the regular season. They know how to bully teams that
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  Speaker 4: are not as good at them, not as talented, smaller
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  Speaker 4: market teams. They do that From March to September every
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  Speaker 4: single year. The pattern, right, is what happens in October
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  Speaker 4: against teams that have been better than them all season.
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  Speaker 4: And what's the difference there? What we heard from Hal
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  Speaker 4: Steinbrenner today was that the offense was not good enough.
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  Speaker 4: That's easy, right, for him to point to because the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees offense actually this year was middle of the pack
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  Speaker 4: as a whole. They think they were 101 WRC plus,
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  Speaker 4: barely better than league average. So he can say that
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  Speaker 4: and there's truth to it. And you can say that
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  Speaker 4: that's because of injuries. Aaron Judge was not in the
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  Speaker 4: lineup most of the year. John Carlos Stanton, not in
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  Speaker 4: the lineup almost the entire year. The mistake is, right,
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  Speaker 4: relying on these guys, particularly someone like Stanton, to be
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  Speaker 4: around for the whole season. And the fact that no one,
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  Speaker 4: not a single person from today's press conference could admit
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  Speaker 4: to any mistake, I think is really telling in the
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  Speaker 4: bubble that this Yankees leadership group is currently living in.
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  Speaker 5: All right. I do agree with some of the stuff
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  Speaker 5: they're saying because I do believe that players are should
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  Speaker 5: take the responsibility because ultimately the players are the ones
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  Speaker 5: on the field. They determine the wins and losses. But
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  Speaker 5: who's to blame for this roster construction? Because it feels
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  Speaker 5: like you've got a lot of similar type of players,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of left-handed hitting bats. I know they made
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  Speaker 5: some improvements to try to balance out the lineup a
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  Speaker 5: little bit at the trade deadline, but who's to blame
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  Speaker 5: for the roster construction?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the roster construction, of course, goes back to Brian Cashman,
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  Speaker 4: who has been leading this front office for decades now.
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  Speaker 4: But when you look at that roster construction, it was
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  Speaker 4: a talented team with a ton of depth. The fact
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  Speaker 4: that this Yankees offense keeps breaking down when one or
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  Speaker 4: two or three of their big bats is out for
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  Speaker 4: a significant portion of the season, to me, has to
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  Speaker 4: be safeguarded by Brian Cashman and the rest of his
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  Speaker 4: front office. I think that judges had now back-to-back MVP
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  Speaker 4: seasons and was able to stay healthy going into this year,
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  Speaker 4: that had to be safeguarded with maybe he won't. There's
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  Speaker 4: been a lot of mileage now on him. He's approaching
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  Speaker 4: his age 35 season here fast. And Giancarlo Stanton, the
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  Speaker 4: story has been the same. I don't know how the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees can keep expecting for these two guys to be
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  Speaker 4: the main pillars in a lineup when they keep getting injured.
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  Speaker 4: But on top of roster construction, to me, looking at
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  Speaker 4: the roster itself being as talented as it was, it
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  Speaker 4: goes back to the lapses in focus and concentration. That
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  Speaker 4: goes back to your point of this is on the
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  Speaker 4: players at the end of the day. And I do
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  Speaker 4: believe that. I think there's only so much someone like
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Boone can do to instill this sort of day-in,
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  Speaker 4: day-out focus in a long, grueling season. It has to
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  Speaker 4: come from the clubhouse at a certain point of the
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  Speaker 4: inconsistency has to be pointed to clubhouse leadership, and of course,
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  Speaker 4: front office leadership as well, hand in hand.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I am definitely on the side of Hal. I
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  Speaker 3: love Brian Cashman. I think he's done a tremendous job
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  Speaker 3: bringing talent in. I think Aaron Boone is a tremendous manager.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen them both firsthand. I'm not saying they can
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  Speaker 3: stay forever, but is there a way that this team,
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  Speaker 3: because for years, even when I was there, we weren't athletic.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're a more athletic team. They steal more bases.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a shift. Is there a way that Cashman
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  Speaker 3: and his front office guys who rarely lose their jobs,
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen an analytic person get fired since ever? It's
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  Speaker 3: always the on-field, forward-facing people. But is there a way,
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  Speaker 3: the way that they made the change with athleticism, that
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  Speaker 3: they can make the change with saying, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: we'll keep a Caleb Durbin and we'll let him become
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  Speaker 3: the player that he is in the big leagues instead
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  Speaker 3: of trading for Ryan McMahon, who has all these gold
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  Speaker 3: gloves and really is the player that's capped. Like, is
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  Speaker 3: there a scenario or somebody that can tell Cashman, this
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  Speaker 3: is the type of move that we need to do
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  Speaker 3: that pushes us in a direction of where the game
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  Speaker 3: is going?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that the Yankees are not right. Like
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  Speaker 4: kind of standing by and watching the rest of the league,
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  Speaker 4: get more and more athletic while they're just the oldest
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  Speaker 4: club in the league. They really did kind of include
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  Speaker 4: a lot of younger talent this year to offset some
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  Speaker 4: of those athleticism issues that they've had. But then we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about players who've only been in the league for
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  Speaker 4: one or two years and still getting adjusted. So it
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  Speaker 4: goes back to, I think you make a good point, right,
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  Speaker 4: about sticking with someone who will help and just staying
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  Speaker 4: there with them. And I think the problem there lies
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  Speaker 4: in how much the Yankees love continuity with the roster
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  Speaker 4: and with their leadership versus how much they're willing to pivot.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that pivot, we haven't seen enough from
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  Speaker 4: them on the fly. It's been very much, this is
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  Speaker 4: the plan we have going in to the season. That's
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  Speaker 4: what allows Hal Steinbrenner and Brian Cashman to say, in
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  Speaker 4: spring training, we had a championship caliber team. Okay, what
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  Speaker 4: happens a month later? What happens two months later? And
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  Speaker 4: I think that is where they've really been lacking in
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  Speaker 4: recent seasons of patching holes. I mean, even look at
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  Speaker 4: the Rays right now, right? They have a rotation in
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  Speaker 4: the World Series is not the one they expected at
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  Speaker 4: all when they broke camp in spring training. And they
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  Speaker 4: had to overcome a lot of injuries to that rotation.
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  Speaker 4: And now they still have the best rotation in baseball
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  Speaker 4: throughout the postseason up until when the World Series starts.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that those are kind of the moves
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  Speaker 4: with the offense that the Yankees have to make on
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  Speaker 4: a really year in, year out basis.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's crazy to talk about because the season's
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  Speaker 5: technically not even over. We haven't even started the first
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  Speaker 5: game of the World Series. But what would you like
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  Speaker 5: to see this Yankees team do? What areas would you
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  Speaker 5: like to see them improve in the offseason?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think if we're looking at roster holes,
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  Speaker 4: you definitely have to. have a set second baseman. They
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  Speaker 4: haven't had one that they're happy with in years. Really,
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  Speaker 4: you can say since Robinson Cano was at second base,
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  Speaker 4: they were not happy with Gleyber Torres' performance, even though
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  Speaker 4: he was able to kind of switch clubs, switch scenery
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  Speaker 4: and keep up that level. So they need pillars at
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  Speaker 4: some of these positions, and especially the ones up the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Now they have George Lombard Jr. at shortstop, but they
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  Speaker 4: didn't have that going into the season. And there was
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  Speaker 4: a lot of negativity surrounding Anthony Volpe. So I think
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  Speaker 4: if they go in with more set roles, that's what
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see the Yankees do next year, rather
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  Speaker 4: than kind of this home-runner-bust mentality from up and down
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  Speaker 4: the lineup. What we're seeing now with the Brewers and
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  Speaker 4: Rays working for them is top three guys, they know
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  Speaker 4: what they're supposed to do. Bottom of the lineup might
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  Speaker 4: not be so great, might even be below league average
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  Speaker 4: in terms of getting on base, not a lot of
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  Speaker 4: on-base percentage, definitely not a lot of slugging, but they
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  Speaker 4: know their roles. And I think that that's what's been
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  Speaker 4: missing from this Yankees lineup for years now. They all
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  Speaker 4: think they have the same job. It's just not the case.
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  Speaker 4: The number nine hitter can bunt and get on base
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  Speaker 4: and steal and be productive that way. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that that has to be a mentality shift and approach
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  Speaker 4: shift for a Yankees team that we haven't seen them
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  Speaker 4: do a lot of. Of course, they're called the Bronx
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  Speaker 4: Bombers for a reason, right?
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  Speaker 3: And they hit a lot of home runs. I was
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  Speaker 3: looking at this team and I'm going to say this
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  Speaker 3: with a little bit of tongue in cheek. was this
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  Speaker 3: kind of a little bit of a rebuild year when
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  Speaker 3: you have seven homegrown Yankees getting over 150 at-bats? Like
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  Speaker 3: for a Yankees team that, oh, we're going to get
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  Speaker 3: every single player. Oh, the Yankees get everybody. Every Yankees
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  Speaker 3: fan wants every free agent. That's a lot of at-bats
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  Speaker 3: from homegrown players. Is that a model that they want?
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  Speaker 3: Or was this just the fallback because of some of
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  Speaker 3: the injuries to Jazz for a little bit, to Grisham
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit, to Judge for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: to Stanton for a long time?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's definitely a little bit of both. It's
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  Speaker 4: a model that they want. It's a model that they've supported.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you see the Dodgers do it all the time, right?
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  Speaker 4: Whenever They have an injury. They just pull someone out
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  Speaker 4: from the system. And the Yankees have also been doing
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  Speaker 4: that for years. The problem has been that those AAA
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  Speaker 4: players haven't always been ready to take that next step.
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  Speaker 4: And this year we saw a lot of positive steps
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  Speaker 4: forward from guys like George Lombard Jr., Spencer Jones, and
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  Speaker 4: even Anthony Volpe when he turned his season around. I
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  Speaker 4: think this was in many ways a backup plan for
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  Speaker 4: To promote all these guys, was it their main rebuild strategy? No,
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  Speaker 4: I disagree with that. I think the Yankees absolutely cannot
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  Speaker 4: afford to be in any rebuild mode while Aaron Judge,
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  Speaker 4: John Carlos Stanton, and Garrett Cole are reaching the end
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  Speaker 4: of their careers here, and they have to win with
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  Speaker 4: this core. Otherwise, that core group is always going to
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  Speaker 4: be looked back as not being able to win a ring,
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  Speaker 4: very maddingly like as going down as good players, but
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  Speaker 4: what did you actually accomplish? So they're definitely not taking
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  Speaker 4: steps back, but I can see how just promoting homegrown
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  Speaker 4: players would kind of seem that way.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I've got one for you on how Steinbrenner's comments
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  Speaker 1: on the business financial aspect of things. I know we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get a ton, but did you learn anything from
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  Speaker 1: the investment they got from the private equity company and
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  Speaker 1: how he.
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  Speaker 2: Said they're not selling the Steinbrenner's yarn?
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  Speaker 1: And then also how he kind of brushed off the
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  Speaker 1: CBA ask, I'm guessing he's not going to be available
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  Speaker 1: to speak again for a while. So the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: ask him about anything CBA seems like it went away
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  Speaker 1: and he used.
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  Speaker 2: The playoffs as a distraction.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to talk about that, even though the
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  Speaker 1: league's been leaking proposals all month.
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  Speaker 2: So your take on all that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was, I mean, a bad move
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  Speaker 4: by Hal Steinberg and the Yankees to really sidestep these
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  Speaker 4: salary cab questions and also Just my point of asking
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  Speaker 4: Hal Steinbrenner about the private equity firm, this kind of
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  Speaker 4: went under the radar. It happened in August. Everyone sort
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  Speaker 4: of collectively, nationally flipped out about it in the moment
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  Speaker 4: that the Yankees need to be getting more money just
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  Speaker 4: to be stable. And I think, right, the obvious question is,
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  Speaker 4: is this a pathway to selling the team? It's I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a fair question because I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 4: much enjoyment Hal Steinbrenner gets out of owning the Yankees.
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  Speaker 4: And it very much feels like something he just promised
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  Speaker 4: his father that he would do, his family, to keep
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  Speaker 4: it in the family. And now he's kind of stuck there.
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  Speaker 4: So if he had a runway out, this seems like
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  Speaker 4: the best one. But he did commit, which I found interesting,
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  Speaker 4: to keeping it in the family, even for the third generation,
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  Speaker 4: even for his everyone after him with his brothers and
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  Speaker 4: sisters now. And I think in that way, right, it
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  Speaker 4: kind of points to this is who the Yankees are
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  Speaker 4: stuck with, whether for good or bad, right? You can
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  Speaker 4: criticize how he's handled it. You can agree with him
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  Speaker 4: as you guys have done. But I think this is it.
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  Speaker 4: The Yankees are the Steinbrenners. They have been for decades now.
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  Speaker 4: And they're running back the same exact formula, which is
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  Speaker 4: World Series or buzzed. So I think at least, at
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  Speaker 4: the very least, right, it holds them to a standard
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  Speaker 4: that they have to themselves go by. Still makes no
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  Speaker 4: sense why the Yankees would be in support of a cap.
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  Speaker 4: And Steinbrenner very... you just smoothly kind of said, no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not discussing that, but I did craft these proposals
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  Speaker 4: and I support them in full. So that should answer
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  Speaker 4: your question. It doesn't because it still doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 4: why the Yankees who are valued, of course, at billions
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  Speaker 4: and billions of dollars as a franchise would need a
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  Speaker 4: cap in order to, of course, spend less money year in,
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  Speaker 4: year out. So It does help that we know that
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  Speaker 4: Steinbrenners need financial help to continue leading the team here
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  Speaker 4: and owning the team. But there were definitely questions that
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  Speaker 4: he sidestepped and did not answer regarding the cap.
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe some people that don't want to help with
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  Speaker 3: the team still want their check coming in. And so
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  Speaker 3: that's why they need private equity money. And so they
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  Speaker 3: get their, they get their, Oh, Hey, I still need
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  Speaker 3: my check money. But my question is with private equity
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  Speaker 3: in there, is there a fear of, That some decisions
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  Speaker 3: will be made because, hey, you know what? We got
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  Speaker 3: to make financial decisions. Before it was George makes the decisions.
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  Speaker 3: Hal makes the decisions. I get there's other people that
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  Speaker 3: are involved. But when private equity comes in, of course
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  Speaker 3: they want a salary cap. That makes their bottom line.
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  Speaker 3: It makes their employees cost a fixed income. And now
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  Speaker 3: private equity would be like, yeah, I want this. Is
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  Speaker 3: there fear that the decisions will... be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: shifted because of this private equity?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there has to be that fear. I
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  Speaker 4: think the Yankees would be naive to think Apollo is
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  Speaker 4: this private equity firm that they're now partnered with, that
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  Speaker 4: Apollo would never want more say in the day-to-day operations.
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  Speaker 4: As of right now, Hal Steinberg was on the record
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  Speaker 4: today saying there is zero involvement from them in the
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  Speaker 4: day-to-day baseball operations of the Yankees. Right. The follow up
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  Speaker 4: question to that is how long will that be the
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  Speaker 4: case and how much more money do they need to
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  Speaker 4: give you to change that? Right. So I think it
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  Speaker 4: is something to continue keeping an eye on, knowing the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees and how they operate with financial decisions like this.
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  Speaker 4: There will be a lot of kind of under the
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  Speaker 4: radar things that might be completely indiscernible to the everyday
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  Speaker 4: fan before something bigger happens. One thing I did read,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: especially about this partnership with private equity, it does sound
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: like some of it was to safeguard Hal Steinbrenner himself
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: and the Yankees in the case of a potential very,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: very long lockout. If the season next year does not
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: start on time, it goes into July, potentially the entire season,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of this money that they got from Apollo
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: will help them in that case. And of course, right,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: that goes to back to the original point of why
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: do the Yankees need this kind of help to begin with?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: It goes back to what you guys talk about all
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: the time of teams opening their books, and that's a
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: larger discussion. But I think it is, of course, very
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: interesting when one of the richest franchises in the sport,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: the oldest franchise in the sport, has to rely on
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: a private equity firm just to stabilize for one potential lockout.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point, right, and how that's going
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to impact the rest of the sport when more private
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: equity comes into the fold.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Disha, thanks for joining us.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Hope you get a little bit of downtime until it
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: kicks back up after the World Series for the New
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: York teams to start doing their thing again.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. Anytime.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Quick note here from Jesse Rogers. Mets having some interest
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in Cubs hitting coach John Maley. That was reported by
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Anthony DeComo today. Rogers wrote, helped preside over a top
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: five offense last couple years, worked closely with PCA leading
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to his MVP caliber season, had Chris Bryan a decade ago,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: who also won an MVP.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Either of you know him?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I had him.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: I had a great guy. Had him in Toronto as
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: an assistant, too. Obviously, he's a guy who's been elite
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: in the lead role over the last couple of years,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: has been an assistant, a bunch of different organizations. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: sometimes this is the exact type of guy you're looking for.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Someone who had been in the lead role, but has
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: been an assistant, has kind of learned from a bunch
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: of other hitting coaches in the game. And, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: he spent a lot of time around Kevin Long as well. But, yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you look at kind of his track
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: record of guys like PCA and Chris Bryant amongst many
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: other players, he might be a great fit for the Mets.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: They need someone like that, and he's a great human being,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: super positive. I think he could get the best out
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: of that group of players there.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know him, but I've heard a lot
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: of good about him, and I've had– he hasn't had
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: all of the best stints, but he's also had some short-term–
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: short-term head hitting coach jobs but really if you're positive
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: you get the guys going that's the that's the job
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: of a hitting coach like sometimes stay out of the
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: way and other times know when it's your place.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And if he does get the job he'd have some
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: young guys there the mets are infusing some youth as
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: we speak right some of the notable names were guys
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like Carson Bench and Ewing was great.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: So he can make an impact on some youngsters.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Juan Soto is pretty good.